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Then it grew and grew and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415#t=1437.17,1441.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415/transcript/21803/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people who had gotten earlier editions of handouts","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415#t=1442.27,1445.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415/transcript/21803/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would write me and say How can I get your latest","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415#t=1445.45,1447.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415/transcript/21803/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"version or something. 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Waking minute you know either","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415#t=1564.67,1568.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415/transcript/21803/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"worrying about writing that next grant or the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415#t=1568.93,1571.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415/transcript/21803/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"progress report or or fortunately writing the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415#t=1571.51,1574.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415/transcript/21803/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"publication. 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You were here with me during Professor return of Iraq to. Record his. Memories of life as a professor at Iowa State University. Richard would you please begin by just saying if you were today. Sure. I was born raised in Berkeley California and grew up in the Bay Area did my undergraduate work at UC Davis mostly because I want to get away from Berkeley far enough away from home and because I plan to major in botany and I went to Davis when I was quite small took one botany course switched to organic chemistry and debated whether to leave and go back to Berkeley but I followed through it Davis. The school. Grew dramatically to 11000 by the time I. Left there was about four thousand when I started. And did undergraduate research with George Swine Fuller who had done postdoctoral work with H.C. Brown at Purdue. So he was encouraging me to go work with. BROWN And I met Brown and was impressed and elected then to go on to my graduate work at Purdue. Working in the organic bore on Mercury chemistry and then I. Had. Really wanted to go to Harvard. Somewhere along the line. So I did a postdoc with the J. Corey at Harvard. And then came to Iowa State in 1972. And how was it that you came to Iowa State. What was that. I actually interviewed at Iowa State while I was still a graduate student in H.C. Brown's group and Brown had a strong influence at Iowa State. Having produced Glenn Russell and Martha Russell who were on the faculty and so I got an interview before I finished my p HD. The department hired Phil Warner instead which I who I ironically worked on the other side of the Kabul cation question in which Brown was a very controversial figure. And then I went off for the postdoc and post talked all of about nine months and ended up interviewing the second time around since I'd already given my standard research presentation. They. Asked me to. Talk about what I plan to do research on. And then I got the job the second time around and came in in 1972. And who was chairman. I'm. Pretty sure it was John Corbett. But I actually remember Moore talking with Jim Espenson and I think the reason I remember it was. I was. I think I was still waiting for an interview at another school which I think was Colorado and I remember Jim saying well you know we can't we don't have mountains like that you know but we hope you'll still come to Iowa State. So I sort of sort of remember being. Encouraged to come to Iowa State by Jim estimates and but he wasn't the chair at the time. I think it must have been Corbett. I mean Jim was chair of the search committee. Yeah I don't know we're just filling in for Corbett. While he was gone. And. What was it like to start up your group but. What resources did the department give you. I laugh when I look at what resources because in those days it wasn't the the hundred thousand dollar. Equipment packages and so on. My startup package consisted of a gas chromatograph and as much dirty glassware as I could scrounge out of an old lab that I'm pretty sure was Orval Chapman's really lab it was a pretty dismal lab and in Gilman Hall. So that was basically the start up package. So. That's not much of a long time ago. I didn't it didn't take much. I mean organic chemists I didn't I mean they needed. Chem I just needed glassware. Basically. The standard equipment but that's all departmental en masse back in Canada sorts of things. But no I don't. Well I mean. One of the. Big attractions of Iowa State looking back at it was that when you had students in those states who were on a teaching assistantship they got all their chemicals through the department without you paying for them. So it was a huge plus famous 7 0 1 0 4 0 3 was everybody's favorite number. So you know expenses weren't. What they are nowadays where you pay for absolutely everything. You look at. So in that sense you know there were. Big pluses in the department. And. So. Can you think back to what it was like being a professor just starting out in the older professors give you advice or encouragement or. Taking graduate stints in those days was very different than it is now. I remember. Basically walking in the door and saying. Here's your graduates. And. I was basically the poor fellow who was told he was going to work with the rock. There was no selection or interview process particularly. And. I don't know how many graduate students the department had at that time but I ended up with just one graduate student. The first year fortunately he was a good student a straight A student and he made it all the way through and and. But that was I mean a real problem. I don't know if the department. Had a real shortage of organic graduates this because nowadays you have far more graduate students than that. So it was like OK here's your research group and then the next year I don't think I got. Any graduate students and I don't know whether that was my fault or the system still. Applied. Not till about my third year that I got I think three graduate students. Of course it takes them a while to start producing. So if you look at my publication record as an assistant professor. Vast majority my publication just had my name on it because I was working in the lab because I was there weren't many people around to do the work. Wow. So I. And I was hired. Over the summer. So before I taught I I. I know I spent most of my first summer actually doing research. I was able to start right away I found enough glassware in it to get going. And even in those days assistant professors didn't have as many responsibilities. So you could. I found quite a bit of time actually worked in the lab those first few years and probably all the way up until about the time I was promoted I was still working in the lab. But it wasn't until. Probably year five or six that I had much of a research group. And I can't. It's probably partly my own personality and maybe also my colleagues for example Glenn Russell's a very quiet sort of shy person that. I don't remember. Getting much feedback or. Probably asking on any questions about. You know what's expected I think I knew pretty much what was expected do you do as much research as you can you write as many papers you get as many grants as you can. And you know I'd worked for two outstanding people I had role models that told me you had to publish a lot of papers and you get grant support because that's the only way you fund that research. So I'd. I don't remember being particularly close to. To anyone or getting particular feedback from. From any faculty. And for a while my research group was. So small and. We didn't have group seminars I had group seminars with Tom Barton and Phil Warner. So we had three three groups together just. So they have the manpower to have a very small seminar program. And that went actually I guess until I was promoted to associate professor in. My students really didn't like those because. The students weren't always treated with a great deal of respect. Then. There was a little tough on this on the students. And so I really wanted at that stage doubt my own independent seminar. And by then I had a big enough group that at least we were made a viable seminar. But. I don't. Really remember her other than the annual. Standard feedback you get from the chairman and the annual review which is still pretty much the same process we do today. I'd say that was. About the only. Feedback and then usually it was just. Published more papers. And we are working on our chemistry from the beginning. I. Know that as a graduate student I converted we're going to boron compounds the organic mercury compounds and Richard Hack who got the Nobel Prize last year 2000 pound published 1968 on the middle of my graduate career six papers back to back to back in Jack's using mostly organic mercury compounds to make organic palladium compounds and then. The chemistry of those compounds. And that. Clearly caught my attention. I knew I had to get away from work and boron chemistry because Brown was the dominant personality and and so I said Well I've got lots of mercury compounds and Brown let me take them with me. When I left his group and all my. My whole thesis was making those compounds so I said Well let's see what I can do with those. And so I started with the mercury and Chris problem with mercury compounds as toxicity issues so they got me started and palladium chemistry and eventually after I published two books on and I took time to bail out and and at that stage we were exclusively using palladium so it was ideal timing it got me in really early in the in the Palladium area and turned out to be an incredibly productive area for. Not just me but so many people I mean it's amazing today and Nobel Prize speaks for how the area's has grown over the years. So I think I was just really lucky in having an easy transition to. A new medal that wasn't. At the time used all that much. And it's been good. For my entire career until. I would say. Only a year or two ago. We'd probably stop doing plenty from chemistry just barely before I retired. It always seemed like there was something. New or different or novel or siting about it. Kept us going for a long time and got a lot of other people involved too. So I just I think. Incredibly lucky to get involved in that area and then the other major area of my career that I've been involved in is bio renewables area making plastics out of things like soybean oil and we got into that area. Actually in a strange way. I was desperate for funding at that stage and George Krauss said. Well I've got some money from the Iowa soybean promotion board and they're doing a presentation won't you come along. And they had a very nice booklet saying here's things that we think would be interesting and we'd be willing to fund because I didn't even know what soybean oil was. At that stage even though I've lived in Iowa for 20 or 30 years at that stage and. I said I get some chemistry ideas that looks like. It worked for them and I got a couple of small grants. And it wasn't actually what we proposed to do but a postdoc discovered could make a viable plastic just. Entirely on his own. And I at least had enough good sense. To pursue it and not just throw it away and say oh it's a pilot. And. So we've been doing that probably for. Over 15 years maybe almost 20 years now and it's become a pretty popular area in recent years but. With the price petroleum. Skyrocketing and and being in Iowa you couldn't find a better area to work. So you know we we started by making plastics and then we started using egg. Byproducts like corn stover and soybean holes and everything that gets thrown away in the field as a filler for composites. So actually today one of my students who did a lot of work on composites just that its final oral today and yesterday a student who's spent a lot of time making coatings basically. Standard latex sort of coatings from soybean oil and natural oil sir. That was the other main theme throughout my career. But that started much later. In the career Marine saying what you're. Saying. At this stage there's still tend to be more academic. I mean. The. The reasons why while we've filed patents and we've had our struggle over. Getting I surfed to file patents on some of these things. The. Reasons haven't exactly taken off the coding slip pretty promising. We've had several companies that have been interested in testing them. And then the composites are still pretty new. They're not the strongest source material so they're not going to be you know replacing metal parts in airplanes but they have. Sort of unique properties in that they're very good at damping sounded vibration. So you might use them for. Ceiling tiles or door panels or something that sort. And they and the coatings actually are very viable as paint substitutes and they and they do come from renewable resource and I think they're reasonably competitive. And so we've been pretty active in trying to file patents on. In those areas and. I have a lot of patents in the Palladium area but I wouldn't have given you. Much money for filing those it was at a time when I surf would would file patents on anything they thought they could get a patent on and then they changed to the other extreme really where unless a company was underwriting it they wouldn't touch it. Right. And then when we got into the and the problem with palladium is it's. Such sophisticated chemistry that if you change the ligand or the solvent or we add chloride or phosphate in you get something different. And so it's pretty hard to patent the process and in that area and in the plastics area though I think there is such promise that I really tried to pursue that and I even. Had interests at one time and starting up a company but we just couldn't nail down the intellectual property well enough to have something that I could. Sell to to somebody there were I had some good leads on potential. I. Wanted. To called the. People who support. Intellectual property venture capital venture capital I had a guy who actress involved in venture capital and was encouraging me to pursue that. But we struggled with I to to try to get. Enough patents broad enough patterns and so on to do something and I just got frustrated enough that I basically gave up on. Most of that. But it was very different chemistry and I found it interesting because it was so practical as opposed well palladium is very practical and you make lots of useful pharmaceuticals using palladium but it was also you could see what you made and you know when. People would say oh you know make plastics out of cooking oil. My mother finally understood what I was doing and thought there might be something useful in what I was doing. So. Those are the really two main research themes throughout my career and in recent years we've picked up a little bit on. Ben sign chemistry again. Well actually two other themes in recent years. One was Ben signed chemistry which sent that using Ben's iron and airlines synthetically which. Haven't been used a lot because they're sort of difficult to make and require really strong basis and don't tolerate much functionality. But we've used them out that that's pretty mild to generate them and that's. Been quite interesting. But again like many of the recent discoveries my group it was a student entirely on his own discovered the process and I said oh looks interesting let's do it. And we pursued that and the same thing happened with one of my students needed a better way to make some palladium starting materials. And he came up with a way using iodide to make a carbon cycle with an iodine attached and I said oh that's looks pretty useful chemistry. Let's look at how we go in NIH grant to do it and probably spent. Five to 10 years pursuing that area. And so and again that was really triggered by graduate students I've been blessed with some. All the major areas. Other than Palladium when we started when. My. Career started. All the other more recent additions have all been student discoveries really that were sort of outside the main. Focus of the group. So. Incredibly indebted to. Students who opened up those areas that proved to be very productive. As long as we're talking about your research when you talk about your book how did you get started writing. The book and. Just tell us everything in. The first year. I just thought standard sophomore organic chemistry first semester science semester second year I was asked to teach a synthetic methods course because at that time. There really was only one synthetic organic chemist and that was Bill Wildman who was an alkaloid chemist. The rest was that was the heyday of physical organic chemistry and Iowa State was very strong in that area and so I was asked to start up a synthetic course and so I started. Teaching a course on synthetic methods and rather than write lots of references on the board I thought well I'll just give them as handouts so I. Won't have to do that might just cover the chemistry itself and that they want to go look up the reference here's a handout and they did that. A year after year I taught. That course I probably started it in 74 and taught it for the last time in. 2000. Pounds whatever that is thirty six years. And. Over the years and I just continued to add to those notes. Eventually they got large enough that. We didn't just hand them out. We sent them to the bookstore and had the students pay form and then eventually in 89 I. Finished two books on organic mercury chemistry in 85 and 86 and said that's enough mercury I'm not doing that anymore. And then I decide to fill in what were some obvious holes in. My handouts things that I wasn't teaching mostly Krauss was teaching condensation reaction steals all the reaction and all things that were my course but I knew if you. Wanted to sell a general synthetic methods book it needed all that sort of stuff. So I spent probably about three years filling in the holes and published. The first edition of comprehensive organic transformations in nineteen eighty nine and then I retired from book writing until I know it probably was. Ninety. Five or something I said well I guess I'll do another edition. Of course the. Literature. Comes out faster and faster and so there was years of catch up there. But I decided to go back and fill in and what was. Eleven hundred pages the first edition became twenty six hundred pages the second edition and that was published in ninety nine and then again I retired and did really retire from doing that book until. Well and I had somebody who said they do some future editions and then I think they got. Serious about how much work had backed out on me. And but then two years ago. I rounded up 13 people who are now doing a third edition. And so they're all right now busy downloading current literature they all have their journal assignments downloading all this stuff since. Probably 97 or whatever it was. And then after we finish that phase each person has their section of the book that they're supposed to incorporate all the new data in there and hope. So hopefully we'll have a third edition. Probably another two or three years but at least I'm not. I did all the work for the first two editions which was just. Incredible amount of work and. Certainly took a lot of time away from my research. But I don't have any regrets it certainly made me very well known on both of those editions. What is the typical audience for them. But when the. First edition came out. It was VCAT was a publisher and I was only 48 bucks. It was a bargain. So all the graduate students I was stationed everywhere would buy the book. And so it sold quite well. But the problem in the second edition by then. Prices were just skyrocketing. The book got a lot bigger. But the second edition I think came out two hundred and fifty bucks and I think it's more like 250 now. And so. The graduate students will pay for that you know. So then it became a book in the research group or in the local library. So it became more industrial. You know every. Company has a copy of it and and most standard research groups have a copy on the shelf but it's not. Not every student has their own anymore. I. Didn't start out as a. Or. Is it really just started out as handouts with here's an equation and here's the reagents you need to do that transformation and here's the leading references. And. Then it grew and grew and people who had gotten earlier editions of handouts would write me and say How can I get your latest version or something. And then I said I think it's hard to publish this thing. And. It's done quite well. But the price has gone up so much that the sales aren't nearly as high. But because of the costs that the book I probably make as much or more money. Off of that now although ten years down the line the sales drop pretty much. Dropped off the map. So after. That. At the. Height what were sales in a typical year. I don't I don't even know where I get royalty statements every six months and I always appreciate the check. But I have never done the math that actually and I don't. I wouldn't even hesitate to guess because I actually don't even know it's it's done well. And people often refer to Little Rock because the Bible first synthetic methods. So I have no regrets having done it it took an immense amount of time. And if you look at my publications you know research wise other than the book. They were. I would say probably about standard in the department maybe 70 years or something for most of my career and then when I got the book off my back then and. All of a sudden I was publishing more like. 20 or 25 papers a year that made it. It made a huge difference. And then at that stage I was able to get pretty good grants supports and my group grew from. What was probably typically during my career maybe. 10 or 12 graduate students. I think of a few years ago I was up to about 24 which was about. Really I mean. That was. Probably almost a mistake in the sense that sort of felt like I burned out. I mean I just. Was in the office every. Waking minute you know either worrying about writing that next grant or the progress report or or fortunately writing the publication. So I mean it did lead to lots of publications I think that peaked out at thirty 35 papers or something one year. But. The only way I was able to do that was that hand more and more responsibility to the students and postdocs and and and they responded beautifully. I mean it worked out beautifully for me I had terrific students especially the last say 10 years. And they were discovering I was too busy writing and correcting their papers not writing and the students would all initiate their own papers but I am a perfectionist so I would correct and correct and correct it till I was entirely satisfied that they were coming up with their own chemistry. I come back from a trip and they'd say Oh I got this new reaction. I said Okay can I pursue this. And the nice thing was it became sort of the model for the other students that was you discover your own chemistry. And. Then one of those students in that time period I think he ended up with 18 publications. He he got to the point where I. Would say well you know this postdoc wasn't able to finish this. So you want Tony. You want to go try to finish than a couple weeks later he'd come in and say well here's a paper you know. And and I really relied on the students to write. The papers from scratch and they got very good at whether they were American or Chinese or whatever. So at least the last. 15 years. No all the papers have been written by the students and they've done a really good job. I've been very pleased that they're. Still talking about students like. What has been your kind of general philosophy in running a research group. What do you expect from your students and postdocs. And what did you feel that they. Could expect from you. I think early. So much my early career I had a. Relatively small group certainly the. Assistant Professor. That I was still in the lab. So it was I was really working with them and often I would just. Try to do the discovery work. Here's a here's a reaction here. Go take this go you know. Flush out the details. And I would write the papers at that stage but in more recent years when the that's a big. There as. Well I stopped doing lap or probably about the time I was promoted to associate professor. But I still was probably initiating the papers. And. Typically I would. Have a student come in the office and I'd say well here's. You know three or five possible projects you know go read this paper in that paper and decide which one you want to work on. And they'd often be maybe something that another student had sort of discovered at the end of this is HD and didn't have time to pursue. So a lot of those would get sort of handed from student to student. But then in more recent years the. Number of my students really opened up major areas on their own. And I'd let them pursue it. And we were able to get. Good grant support so. Other students would jump in on that too. So I. I've never been. An over the shoulder sort of person. I worked with two very different people. Her brown would sit in the office and if you wanted to talk to them you could go in there and he'd crank up the onion skins. Here's 10 Things You Should Do. And I liked that. I liked working with him very much. My postdoctoral mentor E.J. Corey was quite the opposite. He would be in if he was interested in your project. He'd be in every day and say OK had that reaction going now. Now try this and I personally was never comfortable with that. That sort of style. So I've always been a pretty hands off sort of person. And for me it's always been sort of hard to tell a student. You're not really working hard enough. Does it seem like you're producing or. Push them to do things. I. Was always uncomfortable with that myself and. Wasn't comfortable doing that as a mentor. But I also realized that time was that you know that's my job is that you have a student who just isn't really doing it. You owe it to them to tell them. You know. This isn't acceptable. And let them know where they stand. So I've always tried to be very honest with the students about. What I think of their performance and try to be encouraging. I loved working for her brown eyes. He was always very open about. The chemistry in the group seminar. We'd hear about where he thought these projects would go and his grand plans and them. So I liked that we're supposed to say that E.J. Corey style which was we never had a group seminar. And I never even knew who was working on what. In the lab next to me. But he also had a group of like 40 or 50 people. So so there were two very different styles. And in my latter most productive years I think I really. Did follow the Herb Brown model a lot where my students had the freedom and and discovered their own things and then. You know there was so much better when the student felt it was their chemistry they were excited about it and they could hardly wait to finish the project and write it up. Whereas you know if you hand them something and say OK go do this it's well it's your project. So I think that really led to a lot. Better. Attitude. In the group in. Recent years and handing the students could look around and see who was really producing and. You know they saw role models on the bench next. And it wasn't just as. The Rock taught them they needed to work harder. So I. Always been sort of a hands off person. I. Try to be encouraging but I'm also. I hope pretty honest with them about. You know. What needs to be done and if they're not. Doing. What. They need to change. Going back to your early days as a. PROFESSOR. WELL. AND ALSO. YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW REALLY LATE apparently your career in the faculty socialize. Much amongst each other. I would say you early on especially when I started there were a number of younger people. Probably all the assistant professors basically. Would socialize quite a bit. I'd go out and drink and while they were several people who were practical jokers and. You. Know. A fair amount of that sort of thing going on. But I think. The entire faculty socialized quite a bit. I know the inorganic faculty would bridge and do a lot more. So social things of that sort organic chemistry would. Win whenever we'd have a. Visiting seminar speaker we'd. Pretty much all go out to dinner and all go over it would be an evening seminar usually all go over to somebodies house for for a beer or something afterwards. There. Was. Pretty good camaraderie. And in that I'd say. Oh maybe lasted half a career. But. That unfortunately seems to faded away and. I don't know how much is just because of the personalities. I really think a lot of it is just that people. Are feeling so much pressure to produce and have so many responsibilities now getting the grants out and writing the papers up and getting another report out that. People are tired at the end of the day they'd rather go home and relax and you know. Sometime you got to read the journals and so on. So I think it's just the pressures of the job have changed. I don't think it's necessarily that the people themselves I know I know myself I've gotten much more involved in travel and so on and that prevents you know organic wood. For a while. We'd have a weekly lunch meeting and I know other divisions would have weekly lunch meetings but those have sort of faded away too because people have just gotten so busy with their own schedule that you know pretty soon you'd find only a few people would show up and. The meetings sort of died. So I think. It's unfortunate. I think it's in large part due to the. Pressures of the job and just the workload over the years. And. Over the years. What. Issues do you remember is being. Most. Controversy. If any. I really. Don't remember. Many topics being particularly controversial. I think always. Curriculum has. Never been. I mean we. Very much have a curriculum that's pretty darn similar to what we had when I started the basic one year of organic and one year of physical and so on. You know people may debate what textbook to use and whether to include this topic or that topic but unlike some departments on campus where they seem those sort of redo have their curricula every couple of years and eventually end up back where they were 10 years ago. I don't feel like chemistry has really changed the curriculum and maybe the subjects or even organic chemistry I mean we still stick very much to. Certain basic reactions there's still a good old green your reaction and still not a lot of. New thing. There's just too much material you can't just keep adding at the undergraduate level new material because they unfortunately nowadays can't. Often handle even the basics that we. Used to cover and and even expect. I wouldn't I wouldn't say I seen. Any real controversy with regard to. Course organizations or curricula. And I think you know most. I think most people who just always been so involved with their own research and and so on that. They're. There hasn't. I wouldn't say there's been. Much conflict them. As long as we've touched on teaching maybe you can say. What. Part or parts of the job did you enjoy the most. Was it teaching I mean you have a reputation of being a really excellent teacher and teaching was getting in the lab and doing research and writing papers travelling some other hand. I think probably the single most exciting moment usually to me that would stand out would be when I. Come back from a meeting or something and a student would say I discovered this reaction know. And I'd say Oh that's neat. And half time I'd say I'd wonder. Why was he even trying. What. What did he expect. I would never have expected that product. And and those were the most exciting moments because you discovered something totally unexpected and it would open up new areas. One good example of that would be we pursued. Palladium migration chemistry where the Palladium actually moves from one carbon to another in the organic structure before you eventually replace the metal with some other functional group. And. The student who discovered that chemistry Well we got some strange products and took us unfortunately longer. That should have probably. But we finally figured out what was happening and then we pursued and it turned out to be a pretty general process that was quite quite surprising especially since there probably had been. Hundreds of people who probably tried very similar reactions and never reported that before. And I think in large part of it because they got. Something that they weren't really expecting and just didn't bother to pursue it. And I think. One of the. Things I'm most grateful to her brown for is the fact that. He always told you to keep your eyes open for new chemistry and not just focus on making X and if you didn't get X then try another way to make X. And so when we discovered that chemistry that Gee that's really. Really interesting. And why didn't anybody ever report this before and so we we'd have an NSF grant right now that's my group has shrunk it's stretched it out. Longer than usual but. We're still. Wrapping up that project but we probably spent five years or so exploring some rearrangements of palladium compounds that. Were. Really quite unexpected. So. I think. That. Over the years was the single most exciting moments along the way was that the unique discoveries in chemistry and saying oh gee what can we do and then being and sitting down and scribbling out lots of ideas about gee maybe we can do this maybe we do that and. That I would say that aspect of it was and and seeing that seeing the students develop you know from a student who thought all the chemistry was some textbook and knew they thought they'd just sit in graduate school and read books for four years and then they'd have AP HD and to learning. Not really what. What was involved in getting in the lab and. Discovering something and then. Developing it. Not just running a reaction but figuring out gee maybe I can do this maybe I can do that with this chemistry. Those for me those were the most exciting. And. I've enjoyed. Teaching particularly the graduates of this class because. That's that's the sort of chemistry that interests me the most. So that's always been interesting and and I've always enjoyed that course because. Even if the graduate students are not particularly interested in synthetic organic unit they're mostly physical organic or something they know they need to make compounds so then they know they need to know that material even if that isn't their favorite and they're tired of memorizing reactions. I would have to say. I've often found the undergraduate teaching to be pretty frustrating. And that probably has a lot to do with the fact that I've taught. Almost my entire career. The off semester. Come 332 which is the second semester of the one year sequence but I'm teaching the off semester which means I teach the second course in the fall which I. Often say is I get the students who flunked an odd number of times before and then and even. The students who took the first course in the spring have had all summer to forget the first one and they and they don't. Think of it as being a prerequisite they just think. Oh I'm done with that course I don't need to know that stuff anymore. And so it's a. It's a very difficult course to teach. I've taught it for 30 years or something. I'm very pleased to hear that Tom Barton who is now teaching that course this semester says that's by far the worst students I've ever seen. He's so frustrated with the exam scores and so on so I'm feeling like oh maybe it wasn't just me but oh well I mean you're earning your ratings are great. Yet the comments the students make are great. I feel. Encouraged by that. But I always was frustrated by the fact there were so few really good students and there are virtually no chem majors that chem majors would do it in sequence and if they were any good they'd stay in sequence if they were they change majors usually. So it was frustrating in that I and they're also big courses. So you know one hundred and fifty students or something you really don't get to know the students very well and you're lucky if you know at the end of the semester you've spotted a couple of really good students who come in and ask some serious questions and seem to be genuinely interested in organic. I mean I often felt that course that if you. Put this sign up sheet it out at the start of the semester and said OK here d you want to d just sign up here that I get half the class to sign up right away. It is a very frustrating course to teach. And I actually wish I taught the in sequence one a few times to so I had a better idea of if there really is a difference. And. Tom Barton leads me to believe here is a real difference. And I do think over the years. When I started. Those first few years I really did see terrific students in those classes. They may have been premed or something but they at least cared about their grades and they really worked hard and I felt like I would challenge them a lot more. I would give questions where you had to know the difference between whether a ketone would react. Or an elder Hyde would react. And in more recent years I I I haven't put those sorts of chow more challenging questions into the exams because they didn't just seem to be able. To handle it. So I. Am Concerned that I think the quality overall quality of the students that we've seen at the undergraduate level isn't now what it was. And. Now. Say. Oh my phase of your career did your early part middle tired. Right now. I'd have to say the last. 10 years or so. Because it is clearly. The most productive from a research standpoint we've been involved in more different sorts of chemistry not just palladium. I've. Had far more publications far more. Lecture invites and also doing two very different areas the synthesis and the polymer work has gotten me a lot of invitations for lots of interesting travel lots of different meetings and lots lots of recognition some awards. Make your choice feel better about what you've done so do. Very definitely enjoyed the last. Ten years and the. Rewards and the travel. How did it come with that. Talk about your awards. Commitment. As well. The early ones the Sloan Foundation is a fairly common one for young people who are good places like Iowa State of the more recent ones do the COPE scholar award the Iowa State read Regents excellence award. Being named University professor and distinguished professor makes you feel really good. And. And then the Midwest. Award. Whatever it was two years ago. So you start to feel like maybe it was all worth while a whole lot of hard work but at least somebody is paying attention and you're getting recognition. And you know and. It's always rewarding when people come up and say oh you know I just used your book all the time or would would you mind autographing the book or do I just went to a meeting in Russia and had Russian students finding me in the souvenir shop and say oh I was looking all over for you would you would you mind signing my registration badge or something. Or some mystery Russian older gentleman saying Do you mind if I if my son takes a picture of me with you. And then after we take the picture then then then dad says oh now I'd like take a picture of you with my son who is also a cartoonist. So you know if you feel good about that. You feel like you've finally. Made. A contribution. So that leads me to ask a question that isn't on this list that I'm curious about it. And. If it's too personal just just don't answer it please. But. Why did you retire. Because it seemed I was I was really shocked because I mean first of all you're young by today's standards and second and healthy as far as I can tell. And and you see things that seem to be going so well for you you were publishing like crazy. You. Were bringing in lots of grant support running. A large school. Receiving lots of recognition. So. If you don't mind my saying no I I don't know what you were doing. I decide to retire. I think for a couple of reasons. One was. I think I did sort of burn out with this bigger group I had and trying to maintain the grant support. And nowadays it just seems like there's so much more paperwork if you're lucky enough lucky enough to get the grants then it seems like there's always another progress report or or somebody at Iowa State wants some accounting of young would your industrial connections with this grant or whatever it is. And I I sort of got to the point where I felt like I wasn't really doing chemistry and much I was spending my day doing e-mail all day long and just getting out the next progress report or. Just report after report or. Recycling the grant proposal that didn't get funded. I had a good run I cut. Quite a bit of grant support a few years ago and fortunate to have been able to hold onto that I can get all my students out the door and probably have money left over. But I I sort of felt like I burned out and that in a way I wasn't really doing chemistry anymore. And I was just business manager basically. And I also I had. Two medical crises and. The last. Eight years or something that made me say. What do I want to do with whatever time I have left. I mean I had two near-death experiences and. And then when Glenn Russell. Died on relatively short notice you start to think. You know what I want to I want to do is. Do I want to just do what I'm doing now. And I really felt. I wanted to travel some more I want to see. Places in the world that don't hold chemistry conferences I want to read something other than chemistry. I will winners have gotten after 40 years I felt like I had enough and I'm really a warm weather person so I've moved to Palm Springs now and I absolutely love it out there. And so I think it was just sort of a combination of all those things. And and having gotten well I mean the recognition probably the worst thing I was did was they distinguished professor because of that. Well there's not a heck of a lot here to do any more. There was some. You know there's some ACM Awards I wouldn't mind getting. But. You know. I think. It. Was sort of the frustration of not feeling like I was really doing all that much chemistry. I. Know that. And. You know I'm still. Not young. 60 70 or something so. And I had I have mentors who worked till Aaron Brown worked till he was 93 and drop dead. And the reason I know he made it to 93 was because he loved chemistry so much that that was exciting and every day was worthwhile. But I didn't have the feeling. That. I was doing chemistry that I was particularly excited about. My only regrets and retiring is that's. It. It hurts to turn around and see a brand new chemistry building after all your career. Think Gilman Hall and then also have a new bio renewables building. And when I'm doing work in bio renewables and. And seeing some of the things that we really got started now I've sort of been handing off to my collaborator Mike Kessler and I see him taking off with some of these projects that I think. You know maybe I should have started a company and could have done those sorts of things. But another aspect to me is. Both a perfectionist and a worrier. And so. The choppers. Is really sort of tough on me because I would lay awake at night and worry about the next grant proposal or what I'm going to do tomorrow. And. And I found myself. Worrying about deadlines more and more. Interest. Say Oh God I got to get that done. And I'd get it done and I'd probably get it done early. But. Right now in retirement I'm enjoying the fact that I see that. I don't have a deadline if I want to go take a nap. And you know I don't get up feeling like I've got 10 Things I have to do today. So. I think. It was partly that and also my partner was ready to. Retire. He thought 40 years at Iowa State I. Know I wasn't going to retire in Ames just because the winners are too long and cold. And. And I had been going for 18 years to Palm Springs for spring break and in March it's absolutely perfect in August that's a little hot but. So you know that became a logical place to retire and. Have more of a social life. And. Do some travel. So I'm I'm. I've enjoyed retirement a lot. I don't I don't really have any regrets at all. I feel like I had a good career and exciting career rewarding career. Over the years the department changed a lot. Can you think of a way to change that was good. Dan. Well when I started as I mentioned earlier. There were a lot more resources for faculty when your students were on a teaching assistantship. They just go to Kim's stores and they had the magic number and nobody said Oh you can only buy 10 dollars worth of this. You just bought. It's. John. Yeah. Yeah I'm. I'm in the middle of interview with Pat Diehl on this. Chemistry thing. So I give you. OK. I'll give you a call when I'm done. OK. But. There was a amid the resort. There were a lot more resources. I mean 7 or 1 or 4 or 3 was wonderful and died long ago. So there were those sorts of resources to me. The. Biggest changes over the years have been just more and more accountability more paperwork could tell rather than doing something just reporting what you're doing. You know all your. How many collaborations Do you have with Iowa companies and how many collaboration do you have externally and just more and more accountability and and more and more responsibility being pushed on to faculty as well as the secretaries disappeared and you know everybody now does their own papers and does their own grants. And I think the workload has really increased and I. I often wonder. How excited I'd be about taking up an academic career nowadays because of those pressures. Probably isn't much better in industry because that's changed an awful lot too. But I often think about assistant professors and say. Would I want to do that. When I started you could work in the lab. At least while you're assistant professor and maybe beyond that. Nowadays I see assistant professors they're lucky if they get in try a few reactions over the summer or something just because they have committee duties or to keep right in the door in grants or recycling grants or getting once they've got the results writing the papers and even publishing has just become much more difficult. I mean it used to be pretty straightforward to write a paper. Now there's all the supporting information and all the paperwork and if you've got an NIH grant then you've got to report to NIH that you what Grant you used and what year the grant it was and. You know it just seems so more and more paperwork and accountability. And of course over the years there's secretaries that used to do a lot more of those sorts of things have disappeared. I mean I've been. Incredibly blessed by having an absolutely terrific Secretary these last few years who who. For whatever reason really really liked me and helped me out immensely. And you know Barry Berman and that and the students taking on more and more responsibility as the way of. All my students write their own papers. Correct. I mean I correct them but then they make the correction they submit the papers to the journals. They. Take the feedback from the editors and make the corrections and they have questions they ask me and so on. But you know as a consequence all the responsibilities that have fallen on me I hand them off to the students and I think that's happened with everybody. And you know there are far fewer personnel in the department. Overall I'd say that's the biggest difference from when I started. You could. Focus more on just chemistry and now you. Better be a jack of all trades with business manager handling the finances and. Getting the publication. So. It's a. Challenge. Richard Ramos at the end. My last question is just are there any stories that you'd like to tell you. Personally. Or. Funny story. I'm not a. Particularly good person with funny stories I don't. There's nothing there's nothing that particularly comes to mind. It was one story that you called. And. You're. Kindly. Reception. That. Lingers in remember that is. Time that you get so sick. And. You were trying to make it back. Patty. Boudreau that. Was to bring you back. If you want to tell that act I thought you were going to say something else I'd bring up the other thing as well. Yeah. I mean when I say Patty was a credible friend and help it was I was. On spring break I seem to get deadly second breaks. I worried about whether I should retire for fear I'd drop dead but I was on spring break in 2007 and came down with bacterial meningitis and ended up in the intensive here for about 10 days the first two of which I was totally unconscious. And. How do you get back to Ames Iowa when all the flights are booked and Patty managed to find a direct flight from Palm Springs to Minneapolis. But then I had to get down to Ames and she. Drove up pick me up at midnight at the airport at the airport. And got me home by 4:00 in the morning. That's secretarial server issue. You can't expect out of everyone I know. And she. Over the. Years has really gone out of her way to do those sorts of things. That's an incredible example of it. But. The other one I thought you were gonna say that my retirement reception one of my students got up when asked whether anyone else wanted to contribute a story and. I held my breath because that student Constance fellows was. Very outspoken and known to say almost anything so I wasn't quite sure what to expect. But she related a story when I was assistant professor and had a mobile home and had a party over there. I remember that this was great. We had had a good time. I like to dance and and had a lot of graduate students and faculty. I know there were organic Bakley over there and I had a grumpy neighbor who called the police and had me arrest the middle of the party and dragged down to the police station and fingerprinted in the milk and I think I came back and the party was still going it was quiet. It was quieter by then but then the punchline was that. When I then went to court to plead guilty or not guilty I'm sitting on the bench and who walks in but the Distinguished Professor Klaus Rudin who had been arrested for letting his dog roam loose without a without a leash. And so here were two two chemistry faculty member who. Obviously had broken all the rules and they ended up in court. But that was my that was one of my wilder. Early experiences. So were you sentenced. Did you do hard time. I think I don't know that I even paid anything. I think the judge let me off. I remember by students giving me a certificate that said good for one get out a free get out of jail free one time or something and then signed Arnie Siegelman chief of police Ames Iowa or something. That was a gift. Although. That. Was the greatest. Anything else. I think that's it. Okay I'm ready to head back to Palm Springs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35380/file/104415#t=0.0,3745.77633"}]}]}]}