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Margaret Randall will be speaking on Cuban Nicaraguan women, a comparison. Our guest speaker this evening is a most distinguished gentleman. Dr. Walter LaFeber is a Marie Underhill Noll Professor of history at Cornell University. Among his many literary accomplishments, the books, \"The Panama Canal:The Crisis in Historical Perspective,\" and, \"Inevitable Revolution: The United States In Central America\" Dr. LaFeber is with us this evening to speak on Reagan in Central America, a historical perspective. So without further ado I'd like to introduce Dr. Walter LaFeber.\r\n\r\n- To Jonathan ladies and gentlemen. As a Midwesterner, I was born and raised in Indiana, it's a pleasure to come back to the Midwest. Especially at this time of the year before the snow sets in. I mean the snow in Ithaca, New York, not here. If I don't get out of Ithaca before November 15th, I don't get out until April 15th and consequently, I'm very, very glad to be here. I wanna talk first of all about what's going on in Central America, as I see it. And then as Jonathan indicated, I want to try to put it in some kind of historical perspective. And I hope I can split the address sort of half and half. So I can spend at least as much time on this historical perspective, which I think is extraordinarily important. And particularly since, I think last night, as I understand you had a superb address from Ambassador White and I'll be going over a little bit of that, although, I think on some things Ambassador White and I I will probably disagree a little bit and have a different perspective on Central American events of the last several months. When I talk about a crisis in Central America, we are really of course talking about crises. And I think one of the most difficult things to understand about Central America is that there is not one Central American problem, there are actually a series of Central American problems and they have to be understood and dealt with individually. One way of dealing with this is to talk about, as I'm going to talk about the next couple of minutes, three wars because there are now three wars going on in Central America. There's a fourth perhaps in Guatemala that is starting again, that's accelerating in the last couple of weeks. \"The Economist Magazine\" of London, a conservative magazine has said recently that, The United States is fighting three wars on nine different battlefronts in Central America.\" And I think that's an accurate statement. Most of us had not known about this, that the United States has been as deeply involved in these wars, unless we've been following them every day. The Reagan administration has gone to some pains, particularly since the spring of 1984, to deescalate the US involvement in Central America and to try to take Central America off the front page. This was a very shrewd political judgment on the part of the Reagan administration, there's no doubt about that. One of the things they did of course, was reduce the number of American advisors, particularly in Honduras, from about 1,700 to 2,000 last winter, to around 700. And then just before the election, building them back up to about a thousand to try to deescalate the the military involvement, at least publicly in Salvador and even in Nicaragua. To try to push that off the front of pages, to try to deescalate in Nicaragua, the CIA involvement, the CIA bombings for example of last winter, that was suddenly stopped, the mining suddenly stopped. And it's amazing looking back on it, how little Central America was actually discussed in his presidential campaign given that there were three wars in which the United States was heavily involved in the region, and those wars continued right through the presidential campaign. And yet we devoted relatively little attention to it. To that, that series of crises. The first war is the one that again had been pushed off the front page over the last week or so but it has nevertheless been intensifying and this is the war in El Salvador. It's the war, the war in El Salvador has been the scene of the, in many respects, the most intense fighting. We've been paying a lot of attention to Nicaragua in the last week to 10 days, but there has been a tremendous amount of bloodshed and fighting in El Salvador. Now that the Salvadoran Revolution began, I'm sure many of you know, many, many years ago, probably about 1970-72, is a good place to date it, United States has been involved since 1979. Actually, the United States was not involved in El Salvador historically to any great degree. The primary foreign influence in Salvador, El Salvador, for years and years were Germans actually, the Germans who were very much involved in coffee growing in El Salvador. The only time the United States was ever involved at a great degree actually, it was back in the 1920s and there are two episodes that I think tell us something about the Salvadoran view of the United States in the 1920s. One is that in 1922-23, the Salvadoran government needed money. They had gone to Europe to get the money, but of course the European Treasurers had been wiped out by World War I, And so they had to go to New York to get the money. And when they got the money the United States bankers put such onerous terms on them that the Salvadorans hastened to pay the debt back as quickly as possible. And then, they established a monument in San Salvador to remind them never to do that again. The second episode occurred shortly after this when a dispatch came into the state department from San Salvador from a journalist, who was horrified and said that the American minister in San Salvador makes the civilians bow to him as he walks down the street. And that the Salvadorans do not take kindly to this, they are relatively at anti-foreign anyway. The minister was reprimanded indeed as I recall the story, he was actually recalled. But after that particular point the United States was not heavily involved in El Salvador until 1979. Since 1979 of course, there's been a revolution going on in that country that's claimed between 40 and 50,000 dead and United States is now put in about $1 billion into that conflict in the last five years. I think a good way to get a perspective on what has happened in El Salvador, is to look at the situation in El Salvador when Mr. Reagan came to power in January of 1981. There were about 3000 revolutionaries left after they had launched what they called a \"final offensive,\" which was a massive failure. At that point, there were opportunities it now appears, for some negotiating process to take place. And instead the Reagan administration decided that it would go all out for a military victory. The result is now three years later that instead of 3000 revolutionaries there are between nine and 11,000 revolutionaries, that the US policy has turned out to produce exactly the opposite kind of numbers that it set out to produce three years ago. And now the Pentagon once again, a month ago, has announced that, these are Pentagon civilians particularly a man named Freddy Clay, who announced that another two years the United States would indeed be able to win a military victory in El Salvador. If, Mr. Clay said, if Congress will give the military the kind of support that the United States Government wants. Now the assumption of the Clay statement of a month ago was that that money would be forthcoming, and that indeed the Salvadoran army had won a number of victories over the summer and apparently had isolated the Revolutionary armies. And particularly that the Revolutionary armies were having difficulty fighting large scale over a one battalion kinds of battles. Within the last three days, last four days, suddenly the revolutionaries have launched attack, three battalions, at least in size. And it's quite clear that the military situation in El Salvador now, again, is not the situation that the Pentagon had thought it was a month to six weeks ago. The rebels have shown once again clear capability of launching rather large scale attacks, and indeed they've even launched terrorist attacks in San Salvador itself, and the large attacks have occurred within 35 miles of the capital city. Now, I go over this because I think that it's very important that we understand this background, first of all, to make a judgment on the Reagan administration's approach to the revolution in El Salvador. But secondly, because I think that this is necessary in order to understand what Mr. Duarte did in early October, which to me was extremely courageous and statesman like act, when he, before the United Nations, as I'm sure many of you know, called for a conference with the revolutionaries at LA Palma. The question is here, why Mr. Duarte did that at that time? No one knows for sure. I don't think anybody, perhaps not even Mr. Duarte knows exactly why he did this, but I think there are several points here that we should underline, and again, it tells us something about what's going on in El Salvador and how does Salvadorans see us. In many ways they are seeing us as they did in the 1920s, it seems to me, or they're beginning to. The first place, I think that when Mr. Duarte saw the Pentagon statement, that another two years of this kind of warfare would produce a military victory. Mr. Duarte drew back and was extremely concerned about having, again, literally tens of thousands of Salvadorans killed in this kind of heightened military warfare. I think that he was very concerned about seeing at least if there wasn't some way to negotiate. And the striking thing is that he made this decision and approached the revolutionaries without going through the State Department, or clearing it with the Reagan administration. The State Department clearly was taken by surprise on this whole, in fact, the American ambassador in San Salvador, 48 hours, 48 hours before Duarte made this announcement to the UN, the American ambassador in San Salvador was telling a friend, who then told it to a newspaper reporter that he did not think that Mr. Duarte would make any kind of an advance to the revolutionaries until after the elections next year. Consequently, the Embassy in San Salvador, as well as the State Department in Washington were caught quite unprepared for Mr. Duarte's initiative. And I think one of the reasons was that Mr. Duarte's trying to short circuit the killing. I think there's a second reason. And that is that Mr. Duarte is very much afraid that two more years of US military supplying of the Salvadoran army is going to make it very, very difficult for him to control that army. He already, at this point cannot control it fully. Two more years of buildup and that army is going to be extremely difficult to reign in politically. And I think Mr Duarte again, is trying to short circuit that process by trying to negotiate some kind of a peace. The La Palma discussions, which will be resumed later this month actually, month of November, the Palma discussions are simply a beginning, the setting up of a process. But I think they hold out some hope, particularly, particularly, given the alternative of the US policy, which in my view Mr. Duarte is reacting against. I must add at this point in all fairness, that this is not how the State Department sees it. About three weeks ago, I was debating Mr.Johnstone, who was the deputy assistant secretary, and I laid out this theory and Mr. Johnstone became so angry he became nearly speechless in thinking that Duarte would react this way against US policy. I asked Mr. Johnstone for an alternative explanation and other than saying that Mr. Duarte wanted peace, which all of us can agree on, I did not hear any alternative explanation. A second war that is going on in the area is in Northern Nicaragua. And this is the one that we have been paying a lot of attention to, particularly within the last six to seven days. This conflict began literally in July of 1979 when the Sandinistas marched into Managua and overthrew the Somoza regime. The Sandinistas, when they came into power, made several promises, one of which they did not follow through on. The promise they said for immediate elections. I think for a number of reasons, they stalled on this and they did not hold the elections until early this month. But a second promise they made, they did follow through on, I think if I had to do it all over again they wouldn't because that second promise was that they would not have any blood bath, there would not be any mass executions of Sandinista officers. And as a result, the Sandinistas were able to leave the country, come back in many instances to the United States where they were trained with US governmental help and then taken back into Honduras. And from Honduras in 1981-82, they were supplied and directed by the Central Intelligence Agency, we now have that on testimony of last week from Mr. Chamorro, who was one of the leading Contras at that time, that the CIA told him in 1982, that they would supply him and they would help the Contras to overthrow. That was his term to overthrow the Nicaraguan Government. Of course, the Reagan administration explanation in 1982 was that we were helping the Contra simply in order to interdict supplies, moving from Nicaragua into El Salvador, to the revolutionaries in El Salvador. But we now know, at least if Mr. Chamorro's to be believed, and there's a lot of corroborating evidence, we now know that from the beginning of this operation the intention was not simply to interdict supplies going into El Salvador from the Sandinista government, it was to overthrow the Sandinistas themselves. There are now, the figures are difficult to come by, but there are now apparently 10 to 12,000 Contras who are supplied and guided by the CIA. We have put in, in the last two and a half to three years between 80 to $150 million of USA through the CIA in order to keep the Contras going. Until last fall, about a year ago, this time of the year, the Contras were not moving very rapidly. In fact, they had said at the beginning of that year that they would be able to conquer enough territory in Nicaragua, so they would be able to establish a provisional government. They were not able to do that in part because of the Sandinista military response that became much more sophisticated in 1983. And as a result, as it became clear that the Contras were not moving very rapidly a year ago, the CIA moved in and took much stronger control, much more direct control of the of the entire Contra operation. It was that point that the Managua harbors were mined and it was at that point in the late summer and early fall of 1983 that Managua itself, the airport in Managua was bombed. And it's now quite clear that these were CIA planes or CIA directed planes that did this, as essentially the CIA came in to pick up what was a faltering Contra offensive in the fall and the winter of 83, 84. Now they've been able to keep the Contra offensive going and indeed the Contras had been quite successful in holding on to territory in the northern part of Nicaragua, not enough that they can, they can declare a provisional government, but enough, but enough that so far the Sandinistas have not been able to drive them out. And I think that one of the reasons, one of the reasons why the Sandinistas are now beginning to import much more sophisticated military equipment, quite clearly, is so they can begin to strike much more effectively in the North against these Contra bases. The warfare in the northern part of Nicaragua has been extremely costly. There have been, for example, over 50 medical centers destroyed that the Sandinistas have set up. One of the great contributions of the Sandinistas to the Nicaraguan people of course, was particularly in health facilities and education, helped a great deal in those two areas by Cuban advisors. The Sandinistas eradicated many diseases which had plagued Nicaragua for decades, including polio. One of the first places to Contras struck in the North was these medical centers. And as I said, between 45 and 50 of those that had been destroyed. According to Sandinista figures five to 6,000 people killed in these in these attacks on both sides. And there been millions and millions dollars worth of property destroyed, including the major oil refinery that supplied much of the country's oil. Again, I would argue that the result can be argued both ways, but the result has been the opposite intended by the Reagan administration. That what is going on is instead of the Sandinistas breaking that what the Sandinistas have done, is I think something that the Reagan administration did not want done three years ago. Three years ago the Sandinistas had an army of 25,000, men and women. They now have an army, which is much more sophisticated, of 50,000. They also have militias, armed militias, rough some degree of training of nearly 200,000. They certainly have much better equipment, Soviet equipment, than they get three years ago. And they have more over been able to use martial law as a way of tightening up control within Nicaragua itself. Coming in tonight from the airport at Des Moines, I heard on the radio that one of the things that the Nicaraguans are doing tonight, is not only putting tanks into Managua because they are convinced that the United States is going to invade this week. But the other thing that they are doing is that they are telling a block committees in the major cities in Nicaragua to tighten up. Which means that the ideological criteria that will be used to measure Nicaraguans actions are going to be considerably more revolutionary than they were yesterday at this time. And the Sandinistas, in this sense, are moving more and more to the left, being pressed to the left, being pressed towards the ideological left and tightening up the society in a way that I think in one sense the Reagan administration did not want. On the other hand perhaps, it is now, the administration is now at the point where they are pushing the Nicaraguans to see whether or not they will finally crack. What they have finally pushed the Nicaraguans to do of course is Mr. Ortega, the head of Nicaraguan Government just been elected president in the election early this month. Mr. Ortega has said that he would now like to have MiG jets in Nicaragua to protect Nicaraguan interests. He said this before the ships appeared last week, since then he has mooted that appeal but it's quite well known that he made this appeal in several different European and Eastern Bloc countries asking for these MiG jets. And the reason he didn't get the MiG jets was not because the Nicaraguans didn't want them, they do. The reason he hasn't gotten the MiG jets is because the Soviets will not give them to him. The Soviets in this sense have acted as a restraining force on the Sandinistas. And I think the reason for this is quite clear, the Soviets have much more important things on their mind then Nicaragua. Nicaragua on the Soviet priority list is far down that list, and what the Soviets want most of all right now, more than anything else is they want to enter into comprehensive Arms Talks with the Reagan administration to try to get particularly, the American technology in the arms race under some kind of control. And the one thing that the Soviets do not want to jostle that particular plan is any kind of a major crisis in which they're sucked into that crisis in Nicaragua. There will be, I'm sure, more advanced planes appear, they'll probably be Czech trainers, but they will not be MiG jets. And I think it's very interesting that when the Pentagon last week, apparently was the Pentagon or the CIA that began to release, leak, it was really a leak to NBC and CBS that MiG jets were on this ship, they were being unloaded. The State Department immediately began to deny that. And over the weekend, Mr. Schultz, the Secretary of State said, that whoever leaked that information and put the United States into that kind of a position was quote, had committed quote, \"A criminal act\", unquote. That was the Secretary of State talking about leaks apparently out of the Pentagon of the CIA. I think what the State Department sees here is that there's much more important things going on in US Soviet relations. And we do not, the State Department does not want to be detoured into this kind of a crisis confrontation over Nicaragua, particularly since is that it now appears quite clear that there were no MiGs on those ships. There is a third war going on and it is in Southern Nicaragua. And in some respects, this is the most interesting and fluctuating of all of these wars. In Southern Nicaragua there are, as far as we can tell about four to 6,000 Contras. The group in Southern Nicaragua has since 1980-81 been fighting under a man named Eden Pastora, famous Comandante Cero. Eden Pastora was a member of the Sandinistas in 1978-79, he's one of the great revolutionary heroes of that war. And then he broke with the Sandinistas in 1980, he set up his own counter revolutionary group. But he refused, he has refused to have anything to do with the Contras in the north. And the reason for that he says is because he refuses to cooperate with the CIA and the old Somoza people whom he claims are in the Contra movement in the North in large numbers. Pastora has steadfastly refused to coordinate his offensives in the South with the offensives in the North. And consequently the Sandinistas have been essentially able to hold off Pastora with one hand, while devoting most of their attention to the North. And then last spring, as I'm sure many of you know, there was at Pastora's press conference, a bomb planted, which killed four journalists, including an America and badly wounded Pastora. And at that point, Pastora disappeared from the scene. No one knows who planted that bomb. Yeah, as far as I know. Pastora has his view of who planted the bomb, but the CIA denies it. So perhaps the CIA had nothing to do with it. There are other people who say that this was a Sandinista infiltrator coming into to destroy Pastora. It might've been, although that sounds rather dubious. Since Pastora was in a real sense keeping the South out of the Contra war. But with Pastora gone from the scene, the power in the South has fallen to a man named Alfonso Robelo. Robelo was also a Sandinista, he's number two under Pastora, and with Pastora's injury, Robelo has now become the number one person and Robelo has now struck a deal with the United States to coordinate the Northern and Southern fronts for the first time. Now last week, Robelo's car was was blown up, he escaped. This is pretty clear that it was not doing by any American, he escaped, and as far as I know now these two fronts are beginning to be joined. The only question is the extent of US resources that will go in to the coordinating of the Northern and Southern fronts in Nicaragua so they can essentially squeeze the Sandinistas as in a nutcracker. Mrs. Kirkpatrick, Jeane Kirkpatrick, The United States ambassador of the United Nations made a speech in September, to a Hispanic Republican conference, in which she said that after the election, after the United States election in November, the United States, aid to the Contras would go up appreciably. She did not say whether it would go up, whether or not Congress approved the money. She simply said it would go up. And I take that to mean that one way or the other is, as Congress well understands, there are various ways of getting monies out of the United States into this new effort that is trying to put the Northern and Southern Contra movements together against the against the Nicaraguan Government, and to squeeze the Sandinistas from both the North and the South. I think it's very important that if we look at Nicaragua this way, we see at least at this point that a United States invasion is irrelevant. That if you have this kind of option you do not have to send in US troops, which I think the Reagan administration honestly does not intend or want you to do anyway. Now last week, in fact Thursday night, when the leaks began to appear out of the Pentagon, that there were MiGs on those Russian ships, there was alerts, there were alerts around US military bases with a number of military officers who were on furlough, or indeed were in classes across the country, suddenly having their leaves canceled and they were pulled back, literally overnight, Thursday night, to their home bases. These home bases included the 82nd Airborne Division, one battalion of that, two battalion of 101st, these are highly mobile troops that could, for example, execute very quick tactical strikes into Nicaragua. I think at that point the Reagan administration was indeed thinking that if they were MiG jets going in they were going to have the alternatives of moving into Nicaragua in a quick strike to destroy the planes. Once it became clear, about 24 hours later, that that was not the case. Then the word began to come out of Washington as Mr. Schultz said, \"Whoever leaked that committed a criminal act,\" and also that the United States had no intention of striking, that these people were being called up simply because of maneuvers that are to begin in the region in late November, and to go into into the early part of 1985. One maneuver called King's Guard, which for the first time US troops will actually move from Honduras across the border, into El Salvador. And then the Big Pine III operation, which would be a much, much larger operation. Given these alternatives then, I would argue that at least at this point, short of MiGs appearing, or a similarly sophisticated aircraft, the United States does not intend to invade. And I think that the Sandinistas in a sense are badly overreacting, they might be crying wold once too often because right now the Reagan administration has a much better option. And that is, all they have to do is to cancel some leaves, and immediately the Sandinistas begin revving up the tanks and surrounding Managua, burning up all kinds of valuable fuel. They pulled back people who are supposed to collect a coffee crop, pick the coffee crop and put them on alert in Managua so that the coffee crop suffers. And as a result, the economy is badly hurt every time the United States threatens Nicaragua, let alone does anything. And in this sense, while the Northern and Southern Contra movements are squeezing Nicaragua, we are also squeezing Nicaragua economically by constantly forcing the Sandinistas to go on and off these alerts and to use up very, very valuable reasons resources. The fourth war, and I'm only going to touch on it, I know there's some in the audience who know about this fourth war very, very well is in Guatemala. In Guatemala there had been a revolution going on and off for the last 24 years. It is a revolution against a government that we put in power in 1954, in a highly successful Central Intelligence Agency operation that overthrew a constitutionally elected government that was in the Eisenhower administration's view, threatening US interests. And put in its place a military regime who's, through certain variations and certain changes, the success of that administration, of that military administration is still in power in Guatemala. The Guatemalan Revolution however, in 1970, took on an entirely new dimension. It became very different in the 1970s when suddenly the majority, the bare majority of the Guatemalan population, the Indians in Guatemala, began to join the revolutionaries because of certain things that the government was doing to them, particularly beginning to remove them from their ancestral homes. At that point, the Carter administration took the position that either the Guatemalan Government would have to quit treating the Indians as they were, violating many categories of human rights, or else we would shut off US military aid. The Guatemalan military response was, you can take your military aid, and they continued without US, direct US military aid to fight the kind of revolutionary conflict that they wanted to fight. The so-called bread and bullets kind of campaign that was fought in Guatemala in the early 1980s. Where either people accepted government bread and cooperated or literally were shot. Until by 1982-83. according to Amnesty International, Guatemala had the worst human rights record in the hemisphere. Now the Reagan administration reaction to this has been to try to reopen military age of Guatemala. To send military, more military weapons into Guatemala so the Guatemalan army can resolve this revolution. So far The United States Congress has been the major obstacle and has not allowed, at least large-scale US military aid as the Reagan administration has wanted to go in. But they had allowed the Reagan administration to do this, to send in economic aid and moreover, the Reagan administration has been relatively successful in working through private sources, particularly in sending helicopter parts into Nicaragua so that the Nicaraguan, I'm sorry into Guatemala, so that the Guatemalan army can be much more mobile in fighting this revolution. But this is through the private sector, not through the governmental sector. The great danger of the Guatemalan situation is of course that it will spill over. That indeed, it's already spilled over at times into Mexico and the Mexicans are extremely concerned about having the Guatemalan army move across this border, particularly into refugee camps, Guatemalan refugee camps in Southern Mexico. The Reagan administration has also had an answer for that. \"We have told the Mexican Government, if you are concerned about the Guatemalan military moving into Southern Mexico, we will be very glad to help you. The Mexican Government develop a more authoritative and larger military.\" The Mexican Government has responded that ever since the Mexican Revolution began to settle down a little bit in 1919-1920, one of the principle characteristics of that revolution has been to keep the Mexican military establishment as small as possible. All they had to do was look around elsewhere in Latin America to see what happened when revolution, when military establishments became much larger, and the Mexican Government has never wanted to have to pay for a large Mexican military establishment. It is now coming under considerable pressure, and has since 1981, from the Reagan administration, to build up a much larger military establishment, partly to protect the borders in the South where Mexican oil fields are located, incidentally. So as a consequence the Guatemalan situation is interesting in the sense that, that revolution has picked up. And the number of military operations inside Guatemala picked up in the last two to three months after we thought that the revolution was in hand. But it's also interesting because of this ramifying effect. The slopping across the borders, and the kinds of effect that it has on Mexico and the way Mexico on the one hand, the Reagan administration on the other have reacted. So these are four wars, El Salvador, two wars in Nicaragua and an accelerating war in Guatemala. Now just to round out this picture I would argue that to fight these four wars we have used another Latin American nation, and that other Latin American nation, which is too often overlooked in these kinds of discussions, but just absolutely pivotal, is of course, Honduras. Honduras is the key strategic nation in that region. It is also the nation, which has been very friendly to the United States, not only in the last couple of years but since the 1890s. It was in the 1890s that American banana companies went into Honduras and made Honduras into the prototypical banana republic, this is where the term comes from. The United States, working through the banana companies and through other American investments, controlled Honduras, and Honduras was very pro-America since the 1890s, until about the last eight to 10 months. The Hondurans have cooperated with us over and over again, whenever we needed, for example, a base from which to launch the attack against Guatemala in 1954. Hondurans allowed us to use Honduras as a training base for the CIA. In 1961 at the Bay of Pigs, again, it was Honduras from which the Bay of Pigs expeditions were launched in part. When things began to become unsettled in Central America in 1979, 80, 81, we, the natural reflex in Washington was go back to Honduras and we went back to Honduras and began to install very large military installations, huge Naval base, very, very large, four very large air runways that clearly are much too large for any of the planes that Honduras has, even though Honduras has the most sophisticated air force in the region. And we moved in large numbers of American advisors, the beginning of this talk I mentioned the number 1,700, that was the average number, it would vary according to the extent of American maneuvers in the area. And it was in this area in Honduras that we would train Salvadoran troops. It became very expensive to bring Salvadoran officers into the United States to train them here. So we would simply move them over into Honduras and train them and then move them back across the border. The United States, since 1980, has increased its military aid to Honduras 20 times. It has increased its economic aid to Honduras four times, even though economic aid is still larger than military, although of those figures are very difficult to break down. But the end result has been, to coin a term, but I think it's accurate, that we have been Vietnamizing Honduras. That is to say that we have been pouring such tremendous resources into Honduras, into a relatively underdeveloped economy, but the Honduran economy simply cannot take it. And as a result, inflation has taken off and there's been massive misallocation of resources. And in a sense, Honduras seems to be going through much the same kind of process that Vietnam began to go through economically, economically in 66, 67, 68, when this tremendous influx of US economic resources came in and destabilized that economy. Now the Hondurans read their history, and the Hondurans know there's parallel between themselves and the Vietnamese. They also could read such statements as \"Businessweek's,\" last February, when \"Businessweek\" said, \"That after this massive US build up, that Honduras is now in its worst economic crisis in 50 years.\" Moreover, as a result of this massive US military buildup there were certain members of the Honduran army which are doing very, very well. For example, the head of the army, on a salary of $30,000 had somehow been able to build two half million dollar homes in Honduras and elsewhere in the Caribbean. And as a result, what happened was, in early 1984 a coup within the Honduran army, with new leadership coming to power, the corrupt military leadership being thrown out and as soon as the new military leadership came in they told us, they told the United States that they now wanted to renegotiate their relationship with us. And they have now begun to put great pressure on us to do several things. One is to reduce the amount of American military and Salvadoran military presence in Honduras. One reason for this is that there is now a venereal disease epidemic in Honduras. There are a number of cases of herpes appearing, and the first cases of AIDS appearing and this frightens the Hondurans considerably, and they do not want either large numbers of US troops, or large numbers of Salvadoran troops in Honduras, in part for this reason. Another reason they don't want them in is because the Hondurans and the Salvadorans happen to be blood enemies, since 1969 when they fought a war and they are still fighting over a particular border question from that war. So the Honduran position is secondly. Please get the Salvadoran soldiers out, unless of course, you're willing to pay more for it, unless you're willing to give us more economic aid. But they still want the US and Salvadoran military presence scaled down in that area. For the first time, in other words, since the 1890s, Honduras has turned against the United States to the extent, of beginning to raise questions about the US military involvement in the area and using Honduras as a strategic cockpit for the launching of US expeditions out of it. Now, the United States position on this has been that we are very willing to talk with the Hondurans about this, and indeed negotiations are now going on trying to work something out so that we can preserve a large US military presence. This has to be done pretty quickly because there are large scale US maneuvers planned in this region, starting late this month as I mentioned a moment ago. In fact, there were large scale maneuvers in Honduras led by a 120 Green Beret Special Forces Units, earlier in October. It's amazing, this did not get into American newspapers, but there was one reason why they didn't get into American newspapers and that was because the United States Government did not allow any journalists to go along on the maneuvers. And consequently, they were able to keep this story fairly quiet. The Hondurans do not care for this and they are going to push very, very hard for some kind of a settlement before they allow these maneuvers to go on in 1984, early 1985. Well let me now talk a little bit about how we got to this point. Because quite clearly as I tried to set this up, there've been a couple things happen, and happened recently. That are not only new, I would say they're historic in our relationships with Central America. And I wanna pick out two themes here that I think that are changing before our eyes. They began to change about 18 months ago and we're going through this transition now, and I think we'll be able to deal with this transition and deal with this change better if we understand what these are. And I think a historical perspective here briefly can help us understand this change and put what I've said in the first part of the talk into some kind of a context. The first thing is a military approach that the United States has taken historically in Central America. If you are going to describe the way the United States has dealt with Central America, the United States Government has dealt with Central America, since not only the 1890s, but since the 1850s, you would use the word military. Because in the 1850s on, and particularly picking up in the 1880s, 1890s, the turn of the century, the United States over and over again would dispatch sailors or Marines into these countries to protect American citizens, protect American property, or to keep the British or the Germans out of the particular areas that we believed we had to have for our own interests. From 1910, until about 1933 the United States intervened in Central America 25 times in about 20 years. The most famous of these interventions of course, was in Nicaragua. In 1911, the United States moved into a revolutionary situation in Nicaragua. There had been a dictator Nicaragua, man named Zelaya, would run the country for a number of years. He was quite anti-American, it was quite clear that the United States participated in the revolution to overthrow him in 1909-1910. I say that because there were two Americans at the head of the Revolutionary armies, as they marched on Zelaya. By 1911, the revolution was in chaos and the United States landed troops in Nicaragua. We hoped it would be for a brief period of time but they didn't leave until 1925. And the reason why they didn't leave until 1925 was because every time that you US began to leave there would be outbreaks within Nicaragua again and destabilization of the country. The United States finally had left in 1925. Within about three weeks warfare had broken out in Nicaragua. And in 1926-27, Calvin Coolidge ordered the troops back in and this time, I'm sure some of you in the audience knows, something extremely significant and historic happened. When the United States came in this time from 1927 until 1933, they encountered the first Central American revolutionary who had peasants mass support. And this was all Augusto Sandino, after whom the peasant Sandinistas take their name. Sandino began to operate against the US troops very effectively. They were not able to catch him, even though this is one of the first times in Central American warfare where planes actually bombed villages to try to destroy the revolutionaries and the effect as you might well guess, that they drove more of the villagers over to Sandino's side. By 1932-33, this was becoming a very costly war. The depression had set in the United States and the Hoover administration decided they'd had enough and they pulled the Marines out. What they did however was to devise a way to contain Sandino. The way they did this was to set up a government under a man named Somoza, a National Guard, highly trained National Guard under Somoza who would control the country. Somoza then was able to capture Sandino, Sandino was actually came in, rather interesting story. He came into Managua to negotiate peace with the government. He said, \"Once the Americans left I'm willing to negotiate peace.\" He came into negotiate peace, as he walked out of the meeting, they Somoza people captured him and assassinated him. And that was the end of Augusto Sandino at least, ending of the man, but not necessarily Sandino as the martyr, or Sandino as the revolutionary. Because it was that example essentially that I think kept the Sandinistas going in the 1970s. After 1933, the United States de-emphasized its military approach. We had found through Somoza for example, a way of handling these problems. You train a native constabulary to take care of these situations for you. But by the 1950s, this system began to break down. Somoza began to lose authority this early, he was having trouble in the late 40s early 50s. when there was also some unstable situations elsewhere in Central America. And at this point the United States devised another dimension to its military interventionism. This became the covert side of American interventionism. It was in 1954, that for the first time the Central Intelligence Agency was able to conduct a successful operation in Guatemala. And from this point on now the CIA and the US military would be two sides of American policy in the area. I would argue that this did not change even in the 1960s. It was in the 1960s that John Kennedy started the Alliance for Progress. This great effort, a $100 billion effort to develop all of Latin America to create a large democratic middle class. And a lot of that effort went into Central America because of its great importance to us strategically. The problem with the Alliance, and I underlined this because we're going to be going through a debate on this over the next six to 10 months. 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(indistinct)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46838/file/120213#t=10.35,12.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46838/file/120213/transcript/31310/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that is to say two halves of the same policy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46838/file/120213#t=12.43,14.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46838/file/120213/transcript/31310/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The economic and the military.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46838/file/120213#t=14.73,16.58"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46838/file/120213/transcript/31310/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The military providing the stability,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46838/file/120213#t=16.58,19.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46838/file/120213/transcript/31310/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"until the economic growth could resolve 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The economic and the military. The military providing the stability, until the economic growth could resolve many of the problems in the region. But it never had a chance. Because what happened was that in four of the five countries Costa Rica being the exception. The military got stronger and stronger in part because of US training US help. And by the 1970s, the Alliance for progress was declared a failure but the military emphasis in American policy continued. I think it's extremely important right now to realize that this is one of the American policy characteristics, that Mr. Duarte is rebelling against. That what Mr. Duarte is doing El Salvador by calling for talks with the revolutionaries is to try to add a political dimension to the central American revolutionary crisis. One other thing we should note about this. The regular administration is very badly split about this policy. I indicated that a moment ago. On the one hand, there are a Pentagon civilians, not uniform military but Pentagon civilians, Central Intelligence Agency some people on the NSC and the white house. And this is Kirk Patrick, all of whom favor are more intensified military approach to the region. The other side is essentially occupied by the state department and particularly the professionals in the state department the Young Foreign Service officers who know this area very well. And the uniform military and the Pentagon who do not want to accelerate the military involvement in this region. They do not want to pull back entirely but what they wanna do is not to accelerate the military involvement but instead to try to work out some kind of negotiated settlement with the United States power being held in the back essentially as a threatening club, but don't use that club. The last thing that the uniform military in the United States whats right now, is any kind of a conflict in Central America in which they are involved which can be compared in any way, shape or form to Vietnam. They what they want no part of this and in this sense, an interesting Alliance is built up between the uniform military and the State Department on the one hand, with these other groups on the other pushing very very hard for an accelerated military response. So, in this sense what we're seeing here is essentially this policy is up for grabs right now, but after more than 130 years of US military response to problems to crisis in Central America, there is now a major debate erupting in the United States. Indeed the debate is going on for some time about whether to continue this or to try to opt for a more political a kind of Duarte kind of response to all this. A second historical theme that I would point out, I think because it helps us put some of these in context. And this is a phrase that is known in American historiography and writings American political science as isolationism. I think historically understood, isolationism should be understood as nonentanglement going it alone. That is what American isolationism is really meant. We have never been an isolationist people except for maybe a few years in the 1930s. Our great period of isolationism was supposedly in the 19th century. That's when we changed from being about 16 States to about 40 that's not isolationism. What isolationism is actually we building an empire all the time we were being isolation. That's what isolationism is actually is as George Washington defined it in the farewell address. Jefferson defined it in his first inaugural entangling alliances with none. Great powers never have any kinds of minor powers dragging them down. And the key to American policy, I think in the last 200 years has always been that we wanted to go it alone and we would go as we saw fit. And we didn't want anybody around whether it was the British, when they offered to help us at times or other Western Europeans or now neighbors in the Central American region to tell us what to do and is they said, \"Alright we have always known alone.\" Theodore Roosevelt is a great example of this. The theater Roosevelt Corollary the Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine. In which Roosevelt used this great phrase. He said, \"We will now act as the policemen \"that there's not gonna be a police force. \"There's gonna be one police man\" as Roosevelt told it, maintaining order in Central America and the Caribbean region. Now, however, complications of sudden, and again I think it's historic turn that we're living through. Mr Reagan in 1981 and 82 made several speeches in which he talked about how the United States would have to commit itself to containing Nicaragua, and the Salvadorian revolutionaries or else he said, \"They would push until Guatemala went \"and Costa Rica went and then a domino like effect, \"Panama would go then Mexico \"and they would then be on our borders.\" In other words, he gave us the domino theory. The interesting thing to note about this is that the dominoes disagree without analysis. The dominoes had essentially gone their own direction and they have gone in a direction that's historically different from the American historic direction. The dominoes as I understand that I talked last night have set up the so-called contador arrangement. The contador nations, Mexico, Venezuela ,Panama, Colombia to counter United States Military Buildup. What they have tried to do is essentially to multilateralize the affairs in that area. To try to bring new players into this crisis to try to offset not only the United States Military Buildup through the advocacy of political negotiations which is what the contador groups are advocating. But also to bring new nations into the game. Not only contador, but Spain, for example the government of Felipe González is now very important in many Central American capitols, France. Although the French are not nearly as visible as they were in 1981, 82 the French nevertheless have a major presence in the area. The socialists international, particularly has been very active and trying particularly to mediate in the Nicaraguan elections over the past months. In this sense, what we are going through is that we are now being challenged in our traditional policy of isolationism. And there are new nations which we have always considered our friends and neighbors now beginning to counter us policy. For this reason when the contador nations were successful in putting together the set of principles which all of the Central American nations accepted in principle the United States was very confused in responding. We simply had not had the historical reference point for dealing with this kind of problem. Particularly as I know some of, you know the Nicaraguan acceptance of contador confused the state department considered but we had pushing and pushing the Nicaraguans to accept the contador principles they did. And then the State Department said that wasn't enough. And what we have tried to do is to add conditions and we have succeeded in doing that incidentally until now it's not clear whether the Nicaraguans are gonna be able to accept them. Moreover, the end September, the leading Western European nations met in Costa Rica and made a public announcement that they were going to double the amount of economic aid they gave to the region. Western Europeans will put up $30 million in a Central America over the next year when they made this announcement, immediately wrote a letter to the foreign ministers asking him not to give any of that money to Nicaragua. And the foreign ministers wrote back to . that they intended to give the money to all of the Central American nations. In other words, the United States now is unable to work out any kind of a working relationship with our closest allies in Western Europe as well as in the region to devise an approach to these crisis in Central America. Let me end with two stories because I think it tells us gives us the options that we have in the area. The first occurred a year ago when several of us got down to Nicaragua and we got there just at the point that the Kissinger commission was appointed. And of course that needed again to talk in Managua and in any other Central American nations we visited. One of the people we talked to in Managua was Sergio Ramírez who was a member of the three men group running Nicaraguan who's just run for the vice presidency to tick it. Ramírez asked us what we thought the Kissinger commission would do. And he looked at me first so, I swallowed hard and said that I thought that Mr. Committed Kissinger being a very intelligent and experienced man would look into the US policy of the past three years and would conclude that it had not worked. And that the contador approach was much more reasonable and effective. And that as a result of this analysis he would somehow or other be able to nudge the regular administration policy a little bit more towards political negotiations and away from the military involvement. Mr Ramírez looked at me as if I was a fourth grade student which it turned out I was, and said, \"That's very nice \"but I'll tell you what's going to happen.\" He said, \"What's going to happen is if they will send \"Mr. Kissinger down here to talk to us, \"and that as he talks to us, \"Mr Reagan will then do exactly \"what Mr. Nixon did while Mr. Kissinger was talking \"to the Vietnamese, he will bomb us.\" And I said, \"I didn't think that would happen.\" Of course, three weeks later Kissinger went down there and there were right before and after that met Managua was bombed. That was the way that the regular administration dealt with this particular problem. A second story. The second story occurred in Lexington Kentucky last February, where Daniel Oduber the former president of Costa Rica, gave the keynote speech in which Mr.Oduber went over the great friendship he has for the United States, which he certainly does he has manifested that in many different ways. And then he said that he hoped that the one thing he would be able to do in Lexington that night is to convince this crowd that the one thing that they should believe in and they should work for, was the contador approach to resolving a Central American questions. And he was quite eloquent in a very polite way much more polite than I had been denied and discussing why the Reagan administration's military approach and his view would not work. And he hoped very much that as he said and I think he had it exactly right that Americans would not give up the past of military isolationism and accept the future of contador. I think the point of Mr Oduber speech was, and it's a profound one that we are not only going to have to change policy in some fashion in the United States we are going to have to change a century of American history and our historical reference point to that policy. We are now, it seems to me, in the last year to 18 months in that process. And I think that it's an historic and an opportune moment if only we can grasp. Thank you. I'll be glad to take questions or brief criticisms long questions, brief criticisms.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewer] Yes I would like you to assume that Tuesday of last week you were elected president to be inaugurated the 19th January of 1985 you were present knowing what you know, what do you think you can do\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Did everybody understand that? Would you want me to repeat the question? No Okay. The question is what would I do if I had the power to do anything in January of 1985? What I would do would be, first of all I would try to go along with the very first step of the contador process which is to deescalate militarily in the area. Now that does not mean that you would call or I would call all the US troops and force out of that area. That's an impossibility. The United States is the overwhelming power that area simply because we stand here but you would begin to deescalate that conflict because the kind of contador nations have said over and over again and its absolutely right that the only way any kind of political negotiations had a chance of working is through initial military disengagement. And we now have the Nicaraguans to the place where they are willing to talk about this. The next thing I do would be to change present US instructions, diplomatic instructions to contador The present discussions are as far as the United States concern don't like this. The United States is to ask the Nicaraguans to have the Nicaraguans take out all of their Cuban and Soviet advisors. There are no Soviet military advisors I understand that Managua there's certainly a number of Cubans in many seven thousand to pull out all the Cuban and Soviet military advisors. And then the present US instructions read, United States will consider withdrawing US military advisors from Honduras and El Salvador. Now, I don't think that has a chance of flying as they say. And I think that what's going to be done here is that there's no doubt have to be a kind of a mutual disengagement. Which as everybody understands is not really gonna be a mutual disengagement, simply because of the reality of US Naval power in area but at least in the ground that kind of disengagement can begin. Once you've got that beginning I think you've accomplished two things. One is that is impossible anymore for the Nicaraguans to claim that the reasons for law, the reasons for mid jets, the appeal of mid jets the reasons for having 7,000 Cuban advisers and two to 300 East European Libyan, military advisers that reason is now beginning to disappear. I think that's one thing it will do. We can see whether or not the Sandinistas are sincere when they say they want peace in the air and they want to be left alone. The second thing that it'll do is I think it would give contador nations a break. It will give them and the European governments a chance to move in and to begin to mediate in this with less intention, less military attention they'll be able to mediate the situation. Now there's one final thing that says and that is that the United States would pay less attention to central America innocent tirely. And would devote much more attention to what I think are much more important issues in the world. Particularly East, West issues and particularly arms control issues. I think one of the worst things that's happened as far as Central America concerned is the Central America. And I hope some of you here forgive me for this but Central America simply isn't that important to you as policy. It shouldn't be, and there is no reason for being this important. The key issues of the United States in foreign policy over the next four years aside from the international debt issue which is a ticking time bomb. But the other key issue is somehow or other stopping the production of four to seven nuclear weapons every day. It somehow or other getting some kind of a handle. And I think Mr Reagan is entirely sincere about this. I think he very much wants to negotiate some kind of , at least he does. There's some people whose administration had doubts about but I think he does wants to negotiate this kind of an agreement. And I think that that kind of an agreement in the United States has Mr Carter to testify tonight if he were here is very difficult to achieve when you have these kinds of crisis going on in Central America. The thing to go back a minute to refresh my memory is the thing that did in, in part too that Mr Carter and Mr Ford negotiated, was the sudden discovery in Cuba. This Russian battalion which turned out had been there since 1964 and the whole crisis in Central America and then Afghanistan and you simply arms control, is so important and so delicate that it simply cannot hold up other physically hold up other problems. The other problems have to hold it up. In other words, you have to construct some kind of a network of foreign policy that will support an arms control process. And one part of that network, maybe the cornerstone of that edifice to change the metaphor will be some kind of a settlement in Central America so we can get that off our mind. So it will not become a divisive political issue in the Senate. They'll have to ratify it on any reduction treaty so that we can get on with talking about the really crucial issues of our time seems to be important policy And it seems to me, this is a great moment to do it because we have friends in the area with whom we agree with whom we had very good, strong, parallel interests. Then as the democratic nations in the area of Venezuela, Costa Rica, Mexico, Colombia, several of will put down their own insurrections very successfully through political mediation negotiation. They are willing now to come in and try to do this on their own and to sort of take us off the spot. And I think that we should test this out and see whether or not it can work and then go on these other more major problems. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] I'm not legitimizing fear, I'm trying to explain it. I think that the Cuban military advisers, both the civilian and the military in Nicaragua are real. I think that it's politically impossible in the United States, politically impossible in this country. I think to come to terms with Nicaraguan revolutionaries as long as there are that number of Cubans in the country. What I'm really scared of here is Nicaragua essentially becoming another Angola and getting locked into that kind of a diplomatic problem. And I would like to find some way to guarantee Nicaragua security without those Cuban advisors\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Well, I think it's going to be impossible in central America to have any kind of principles, any kind of a mutual withdrawal of foreign military advisors unless the Cubans are brought into that. And the way it's worked out is that the Cubans and Nicaragua equivalent the Americans and Honduras and El Salvador and it's almost becoming a tit for tat trying to question if you're asking whether or not Nicaragua is a threat because the Cubans are in there, I'm not concerned about Nicaragua invading neighboring countries because of the Cubans, that's you're asking? No, I'm looking at this though as a political question and it's become all wrapped up in that kind of a ball. And now we've got to start unraveling. And I think one place to start is with foreign advisers regardless of where they are. Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] I don't see the question I was when I see any hope and whether we're going to take this kind of initiative. I don't see any right now. There are now stories circulating, well I suppose you read it yesterday that Mrs. Kirk Patrick is going to leave the government. And she's going to tell the president next month that the only way she would stay on the government is if she became the head of the National Security Council and the stories at the same time that began to circulate the story circulated that Mr McFarlane, who is now the head of National Security Council is going to become the ambassador of Israel which when he was asked about it said it was news to him. And there's all kinds of things going on in the next couple months as the president begins to sort out his personnel. I think it's gonna tell us a lot about this. I'm very much encouraged that this isn't a relative term but I think it's important in this debate. I'm very much encouraged Mr Shelter going to stay on. I'm not I criticize in twins and elsewhere, and I have real reservations about many of his policies, but I do think that the one thing he will do would be to support many of the people in the State Department who wanted two track policy, for which Mr Andres the former head of US policy making in Central America was fired because he pushed too hard for political negotiations. I think will work very hard for that kind of an approach which is within this administration is a moderate approach. There was about six months ago I think the feeling that he would probably leave in eight to 10 months, but it now appears that he's going to stay on for that reason and for Soviet the reasons of Soviet policy as well if the personnel can work out, that is to say if somehow rather the State Department and the NSC can work out a two track approach. Then I think there's a possibility of this occurring the great danger is that even if stays in then Mrs Kirk Patrick could become a key adviser in some form at some level, now that Mr Helms will take over the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and if those two things happen, my great hope is the one place where I do have great hope is in Congress. I think that I've written some things that the two or three people who ever read them now remind me about how I used to say that American public opinion never made much difference in foreign policy. And I believed that until the last two years and they suddenly occurred to me that one of the reasons why Congress has refused to aid to contrast and one reason why Congress has insisted on tying military aid to human rights practices is because there've been a lot of people in United States at the grassroots in particular church organizations to then extremely active and I know very, very effective at the grassroots in keeping Congress on a particular policy line. It seems to me again in the elections year I think made no difference, obviously, in this case at this point, this is probably our best bet. There are several key committees aside from the Senate Foreign Relations Committee but there's gonna be very important decisions being made on these issues, particularly in the house and those committees that are going to be under the control of people who I think are much more skeptical and critical of the administration policy than the people who control those committees before the election. I think particularly here in the subcommittee the house appropriations, but I think that's probably, if we're gonna talk about the chance hate to use the term light at the end of the tunnel but that's probably where that's probably where it will be. Yes sir\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Well, what I said... I very carefully modified that but I said was, I think that he personally would like an arms reduction agreement. I think he personally would. And then I said\r\n\r\n- [Interviewer] Why do you think that?\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Why do I think that for several reasons? I think first of all and somebody said recently, a president his second term is very concerned about history. And I think that Reagan who has had absolutely no success in foreign policy, unless you want to count Grenada. I mean that's the only one literally that's the only one he's had. He even putting the missiles into Europe was a Carter policy which he carried out with great success. But he has had no independent foreign policy problem of success except that I think he says that he's come to understand that the key foreign policy problem is arms reduction East West relations. And I think he's very sincere in wanting that. Now, I believe that, but I also know that there are people in the regular administration. Absolutely do not. Those of you who've read book know that some of those people, in fact all of them are still in the administration. And you also know that Mr Reagan, shall we say, does not keep up with the details of these kinds of negotiations and how much he's going to become involved in these kinds of talks. It will make a great difference because sooner or later he's going to have to start making very tough decisions between Richard Bird grew up in the State Department and Richard Pearl group in the Pentagon on these. And if he's not around to make those decisions then we're going to have four more years like we had in the past. I think this is gonna be the test, whether or not he's involved enough to make this kind of choice. He says he does. I think he wants to make that kind of impression. I believe in whether he can bring himself to do it is what we're gonna have to wait to see but I'm willing to give the man the benefit of the doubt right now, even though it was like the faith of Paul it's based on things not seen at this point. Yes sir.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] I think that first of all, I've on electing because I know from something On central American issues that I had been following obviously I've been following. When I follow local Midwestern political events it's in Northern Indiana where I grew up and it's not an I know that Mr Harken has been very successful and very much respected for his positions in Central America. I think that what we've seen in the last week is what we have to look forward to. That if the administration can continue to have the kind of week that they've had in the last week, that is to say get the message across to the American people, that the Nicaraguans are getting very sophisticated aircraft that are changing that is changing the balance of power. Very sophisticated weapons is changing the balance of power in the region that is forcing the United States to put military bases on alert that is causing us to conduct military maneuvers in the air to keep the Sandinistas off now and if that occurs unless there is a real groundswell of opposition at the grassroots over the next two months. I think the administration is going to be able to get money for the I think they're going to be able to argue that the Sandinistas pose a real threat to the region and that they're going to be able to argue that the have not been able to be driven out. And as a consequence of deserve help. In that sense, what's happened the last week fits into this kind of scenario. If you were a hard-line in the Pentagon and you wanted to get an aid for the countries you do exactly what happened to last week. And I wouldn't be surprised we didn't see this repeated in some form over the next couple of months. The only counter to that I think is going to be if people get to people in Congress and convinced them that this is a misleading of what's going on. And if the State Department particularly in some of the subcommittees where the state department does have some leverage if the State Department can say, \"Look, let us hold off a little bit, let's see whether or not we can work something out there to kind of do our process.\" Right now the contract money has essentially been funded college donated. They've said they just they want to hold off until February 28th I think it is, before the funds are released. S, the money's there, the real question it's gonna be a really tough vote because the way the question is constructed is pro administration, should we not? It's not what are you appropriate? Am I, should we release the money? That's essentially going to be the question and given what's happened over the last week, and again I can see this building and on and off like a sign curve until it hits a peak and middle late February and times are going to be under great pressure to appropriate.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewer] Sir?\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Yep I'm sorry.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewer] I spent three weeks in Nicaragua and the Mexican defense people on the street. And I asked him when you suppress this present government which has done so much for the people, what kind of government are you going to replace with? And I'd like your comment on that.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] In Nicaragua?\r\n\r\n- [Interviewer] In Nicaragua. You mean you're talking to US defense people? Well, I think this is one reason why the military and the Pentagon are much more dovish on this than some of the civilians. I haven't thought this through. That's a real problem. It became a problem. Not only in the terms your putting it in I think you're exactly right. It also became a problem about 18 months ago when the Nicaraguan government began to put stores and weapons up in the mountains and made it very clear to the United States that if they came into Managua, they might get Managua but they would then have to fight a time of 1927 to 33 war in order to take the whole country. So I think, I think we got two problems. One is yours? And that is what kind of a government even through the contrast could we bring in that would have respect to Nicaraguan people? I think there was some people that wasn't too aware of this. The second problem would be how you pacify the entire country so you can govern it. And it's on that point particularly that the uniform military who likes to do these operations very quickly and very thorough and then get out have real reservations. As I said in the talk, the one thing they do not want to do and there's a real danger of just to get bogged down in some kind of war and then have some kind of a military government and occupation government trying to run the country that would be highly unpopular in the United States. And it would throw the US army back to about where it was in 1973, 74, 75. I was at a conference last week in Vietnam, US Military History Conference. The most interesting work on Vietnam is coming from the US military. The civilian scholars is like me. I'm not doing anything compared to what these people are. And the reason they're doing it is they really have terrible scars from Vietnam. And when you talk to them about the lessons of Vietnam or when you talk to them about Vietnam and Central America these points come out over and over and over again. And that is it as they say at morale in the US army, not just morale but the operational capabilities of the US army particularly in Europe were virtually destroyed by Vietnam. And they simply can't tolerate this kind of a military operation again. And this is one reason why the military uniform military in Pentagon is cited against the civilians on this Central American issue. They see this as a very dangerous military operation.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewer] Can we justify the bloodshed.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Well, you can justify the bloodshed, if the administration could make the case that there were Soviet offensive weapons which had another missile crisis. If you could make that kind of a case there's another Cuban missile crisis, then I would think that there would be a lot of Americans who would, would give the government some time and some bloodshed, but you see what's happening is if the Soviets have learned from 1962 and they're not going to give us that kind of an opening again, I don't think. And moreover, as I said at a talk I think a regular administration has another way of doing it short. It was a friend of mine said that he's actually a military man. He said, \"We're willing to fight for the last Central America.\"\r\n\r\n- [Interviewer] One more question\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] Yes\r\n\r\n- [interviewer] You have been talking about past and present Central America and as a Central American, I am more interested in the future, could you speak a bit about the future? I mean 10 years from now.\r\n\r\n- [Interviewee] 10 years from now in Central America? Yes. The question was that I've been talking about the past and the present, but as a citizen of Central America you would like to say you'd would like me to say something about the future. And I think I would simply recapitulate some of the things I've already said, which I think that if there's continued military escalation in this area there's going to be tremendous bloodshed The Central Americans now figure that in order to bring their economies back, in five years, to where they were five years ago they're going to have to have at least $23 billion. Nobody not even the Kissinger commission is talking half that amount, Kissinger commissioners talking to 8 billion, but more than warfare goes on the more it's going to cost to bring the living standards in Central America back to where they were in 1970, somehow or other the military escalation has to stop how that's done, whether it's through a quick military strike, and I hope not. Or through some kind of political negotiation that's what's meant have to be done once you've done that, then I think you've got the particularly due to the kind of dark clouds. I think then there's a wonderful opportunity. And the opportunity is at that point particularly if contador works and some of the other nations such as Mexico, which has always been on the sidelines in these issues, historically if they begin to get involved as the Venezuelans the Colombians are already involved. And as the West Europeans involved then Central America not only has guarantors of that piece aside from the United States which does not have the best reputation in that area but it also has other resources, other alternatives for resources to draw on that to me is a significance to the Western Europeans offering $30 million. That's coming here to central America. That's precisely the point that now Central America does not, has other options than the United States which has had historically to work with its neighbors and to work with Western Europeans who with a period of time are willing to work in partnership for their own interest but are willing to work in partnership. And certainly Spain, and Felipe González is much closer to Central America, culturally, and in spirit then the regular administration of the Carter administration as the United States. It seems to me that in this sense, we could be optimistic on the future if we can take the first step. And the first step has to be some kind of a military disengagement to see whether or not contador works. ask the last question I'll stay around and talk as long as you want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46838/file/120213#t=0.0,2287.85633"}]}]}]}