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We work towards changing US foreign policy to that end, and in that context tonight we're fortunate to have a person speak to us from Guatemala and this is indeed a country where we need to be in solidarity with the struggle of the people there. We're fortunate to have Fermina Lopez who is representing the National Coordinating Committee of Guatemala widows, and translating for her will be George Gary, who's a tour coordinator and also representing NISGUA, the Network in Solidarity with the People of Guatemala. So, Fermina and George.\r\n\r\n- Good evening. It's good to be back as the United States treasurer. It's a pretty good turnout. I graduated from here in 1985, so it's good to be in hot air country again, right? Okay so.\r\n\r\n- Come one guys you're just sitting here like, yeah, you lend in support.\r\n\r\n- Okay. So, never consolidarity with the people of Guatemala, sponsoring the tourist, to program Progreso Guatemala where we, experience with people, speaking here in the United States as far as do other political and financial support for different members of popular organizations in support of grassroots organizations in Guatemala. So I'd like to, by way of introduction of Fermina, Fermina Lopez is a founder, and on the board of directors of CONAVIGUA, the Coordinating Committee to Guatemala Widows. It's an organization that was formed about two years ago and she'll case some more about that. Since the two years of it being formed, Fermina has been the international spokesperson for the organization she's met with Jimmy Carter last year, International, convention, this summer has traveled to Europe and the central South and North America representing not only CONAVIGUA but representing Guatemala in some of the preparations for upcoming celebrations to the 500 year anniversary of High Lord Christopher, and his buddies from Spain. So, we'll have time with Fermina presenting and then have some time for questions and answers. Good evening to everyone present, in the name of Guatemala and in the name of our organization, I give you warm and cordial meetings. I represent an organization called CONAVIGUA, the Coordinating Committee of Guatemala windows. I am a widow myself, my husband was kidnapped and disappeared in 1982, and I had two children. I come from the state of K'iche', which is in Guatemala, and my native language is K'iche' as well. It's just been in the last two years since I've been working with GONAVIGUA that I've learned Spanish. It's a joy for me to be able to meet with you here this evening and to share some of the story of Guatemala and specifically the story of the widows in Guatemala. This is the first time in the history of Guatemala that the indigenous people, indigenous women have had their own organization. Our organization was formed out of the pain and suffering that we live. In Guatemala women are very exploited, and marginalized and oppressed. The majority of us are illiterate, we don't know how to read and write in Spanish. And worst of all, we are widows. We are left with a double responsibility for being both father and mother for our children. In Guatemala there are over 50,000 widows as a result of the military oppression. In addition to that there are others who have lost their husbands because of diseases. Our organization was formed two years ago on the 12th of September, 1988. Our board of directors was formed to promote the voice of women and the indigenous women in Guatemala. So we work for the respect and the dignity of women in Guatemala especially the indigenous women. Our objective also includes to receive the international aid that comes to Guatemala, and then it comes directly to us as the widows in the orphanage. Because if this aid continues to go into the hands of the military authorities, it doesn't arrive to us and we don't know what they do with it. On a few occasions, they have shared with us some of this international aid in the form of basic grains, but they've given it to us with strings attached. They tell us that we can't participate in demonstrations, that we can't organize along the limit, and then we couldn't, that we cannot ask to see our loved ones, those who've been disappeared. After they do share with us a few of these basic grains that they got a huge campaign, in the radio on the TV saying that women are developing themselves in Guatemala, and that children are receiving school supplies for example, but for us a pound of beans or a pound of corn, given to us with strings attached to it doesn't signify development, our problems are much greater than that. Because in many of the communities where our women live, there's no safe source of drinking water, there's no electricity, there's no schools, there's no access to health, and there's no good roads. Many times if we have to go to the community to buy something, our people have to walk four and five hours to get here. So this is all going on while the authorities are talking about all the development that's going on in Guatemala. So this general environment of poverty, misery are causing our children to start working at a very early age. Sometimes in some cases, three and four year old children are starting to have to go to the field, and earn their own living. Another one of our struggles is to keep children and other people in our family from being forced into military service, either in the civil patrols and in the army or enforced to work projects that the military carries out. So this working for the civil patrol means another day of hungry for people in our family, means another day where we can't go and earn our living, and provide food for the family. So these civil patrol groups have been formed in Guatemala, by the military to control us and to keep surveillance on us, and we can't travel from one location to another without getting permission from your civil patrols, and the leaders specifically in the civil patrols. What they're trying to do is keep us from uniting as people, and they try to divide us. Another one of the things that we do is that we're trying to work against, is the fact that when the military wants to build a road or do some other kind of reconstruction, the have to get children, and even us as widows to do this work for them, free manual labor, even though they received thousand of dollars in international aid to get this work done. So the work that we're doing is trying to help women develop themselves, so they can participate more fully into the society. So part of our work includes, holding classes, workshops for just 30 women. These topics that we cover in the workshops include studying the constitution. We study the rights of people in Guatemala, and specifically the rights of the women. This has helped us greatly in our ability to develop as women. Before we didn't know that we had rights and then we saw that there were laws protecting us, all that we knew was from our experiences the suffering that we've grown up with. This knowledge of the constitution it has helped us defend ourselves. As an example, there was a group of women gathered together one time in a village, when the military arrived and began threatening them, they said, \"What are you doing here? Who gave you the right to be here? This is not the place for women to be. A woman should be at home taking care of the house and the kids.\" So women responded to the military authorities by saying, \"It's not that anyone gave us the right,\" excuse me, \"the constitution itself guarantees us the right.\" And they took out a copy of the constitution and showed it to them, and all these women don't know how to read and write, they marked on the constitution the article that gives them the right, to be there and organize. Maybe one of the things that we do is we denounce, and make public the threats that have been given against us. Against us and the people that are working in our organization. Another one of the things that we do as CONAVIGUA is participate in demonstrations that are called by our organization called UASP. This UASP is a large umbrella organization that groups together, a number of grassroots organizations working for social justice in Guatemala, for instance a demonstration that took place on International Labor Day, May 1st and December 10th, which is the International Human Rights Day, although in Guatemala, human rights even since 1794 have never been respected. Another one of the topics that we cover in our workshops, are the topic of the 500 year anniversary of the arrival of Spaniards. For many of us who didn't know before what_____ 500 years, which would be in 1992. Well, if government is planning a huge celebration around the 500 year anniversary for 1992. For us it's not a celebration at all. It would mean for us if we celebrate this, it would mean to celebrate 500 years of the killing of our ancestors. 500 years of the destruction of our culture, and the taking away of our land from us. But it's not just to our ancestors that this is happening. It continues to happen to us today. Thousands of people are being killed for speaking out against the human rights situation, and working for social justice. Part of our own planning for alternative types of activities for 1992, includes an activity of a large gathering that we had on the 12th of October this year, in the ruins called Iximche. So what we were able to do on this October 12th meeting, was to gather all the 22 different ethnic groups, they're a part of Guatemala, and had a mine celebration, and that the mine priests there celebrate. So we give a name of a celebration the maHawaii which is mom, on the indigenous languages in Guatemala, which in English means the dawning of a new day. So in order to be able to strengthen our own organization, we wanna be able to follow up on the workshops next year. And it helps the women develop themselves, and have a greater awareness of the situation in Guatemala. Another one of our goals work plans for 1991, is a literacy campaign that we wanna conduct in all the areas of Guatemala that we're working. Another thing that we wanna work for towards in 1981, is giving women capacity to get the jobs, and try to get all of our students, all of our children, a chance to be students when they have to go to school. In order to be able to do this, we're gonna need a lot of economic resources to be successful. So we've also experienced many great problems in our work of organizing. There are many threats against the members of CONAVIGUA. The government accuses us of being gorillas and communists for demanding our rights. As an example, one of our work companions Maria Mejia was killed in the shoot out, on the 17th of March. Maria Mejia was killed because she was organizing the women in her community, as part of CONAVIGUA's work. She was also working to keep her son from being forced into military service. Many of the leaders of our organization can no longer return to their homes because they're being controlled and then they're watched by the military. It's not just CONAVIGUA that receives this kind of threats against them either. Anyone who works for human rights in Guatemala, faces these kinds of threats. Anyone who works for human rights or anyone who denounces the human rights violations in Guatemala, is liable to be killed or kidnapped or disappeared. And this is in the city or the countryside. And our organization is open to the participation of any of the women in Guatemala who wanna work with us, it's not necessarily indigenous widows. There are people who are Mestizos or mixed blood that are working with us, and women who are not necessarily widows. But the majority of people in our organization are indigenous widows. So this is a brief summary of some of the things that are going on in Guatemala. If you have any questions, we'd like to give you a chance. I'd like to also introduce you to Willy Corez, who is from Guatemala. William is now living in Chicago, and also works with News Lab, for the Midwest region, he's the regional representative. And he's gonna help with some of the translation. William and I both will constantly respond to some questions that you might have about women in Guatemala today.\r\n\r\n- Just how does the influence of the fundamentalist religion compete from counts of what CONAVIGUA is trying to do.\r\n\r\n- The work of the, some of the fundamentalist sects in Guatemala have caused some great problems for us. They're trying to destroy some of the unity that's been built up in our work. What they told some of us widows is that it's a sin to organize and work with women, and that everything that's happening here on the earth is a punishment from God. Another thing that they told us is that it's a sin to demand to see our loved ones who've been disappeared or kidnapped and never seen from again. They tell us that these people have gone body and soul to heaven, and then they're happy there, and we shouldn't try to get them back. If we asked to see them back here or earth, we'll be steering them away from their intended destiny. They use the Bible to convince us, and to try to convince us of their point. They tell us that the Bible says we need to earn our bread from the sweat of our brow, and then if we don't, if the tortillas don't reach, and if there's not enough tortillas to feed us, then that's just our faith in the world. But we need to ask them then, if that's the case, why is it that it's just the poor people out here sweating in the fields, and the rich ones are not out here with us? Rich large languages. There are some communities with more than 50 fundamentalist churches in them..\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I'm asking whether in Guatemala too, there is a progressive branch of the Catholic church, in theology and deliberations which tradition it supports popular one?\r\n\r\n- The Catholic church is with the people. As an example, last year the Catholic bishops released a statement, the bishops sent a letter, a paper entitled, \"The crime of the earth, a cry for the land.\" They've also released denouncements about the situation in Guatemala, the human rights situation in Guatemala, and they also have been targets of military repression.\r\n\r\n- Last Sunday we had riots in Guatemala again. One of the And how would this effect if he take power and then run after office next month?\r\n\r\n- As CONAVIGUA, our position is that no government will ever be able to solve the problems in Guatemala. Anybody who comes power, anybody who comes to office anyway will never be able to solve all of our problems. The government basically serves the interest of the rich and it's not with the people.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, and adding a little bit about that, it's okay making fun of my English presentation. Is that going back to your question on the sector of the catholic church, which is progressive in the sense behalf of the impoverished population in Guatemala. Yes there are certain specific small sector of the catholic church, that has been changing its position through the years in Guatemala, and they are helping the poor people of Guatemala. Of course the hierarchy of the Catholic church wouldn't like to be on the side of the poor people by having the mind that the fundamentalist sect, as a counter insurgency program established by Rios Montt in 1982 under his plan of, National Plan for Security and Development, as a psychological warfare against the population. They haven't gained a lot of parishioners from the Catholic church. So the Catholic church is losing a lot of money. According to the monetary issue last year, a year and a half ago, they estimated that more than 30% of the Guatemala population are already fundamentalists. At this point, probably 45% or even 50% of the Guatemala population are fundamentalists. Now going back to the question about Serrano Elias. Yeah even are fundamentalists, and we can say that probably far right wing politician, and he was cooperating closely with Rios Montt during his coupe d'etat government of 18 months. Yes, he's gonna bring on his side the support of these fundamentalist people in Guatemala more so a specific sector of the Guatemalan army, which is the young officers of the. Basically those are the young officers who are carrying over the war in Guatemala in the battle front, and they don't agree the coherence of the counter insurgency plan. Dr. Gramar Vinicio Cerezo has been, in charge here for the last five years. And also Serrano Elias has been a brain and has gained the support of the small business people in Guatemala, who love to have Rios Montt as the president, in order of his government to bring peace and to bring social order in Guatemala there's a lot of delinquency due to the deterioration of the society, for the lagging of direct services and all the problems.\r\n\r\n- Although it's about the refugees. Are they helping the refugees or what do they know about the refugees.\r\n\r\n- CONAVIGUS?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- First of all there are two kinds of refugees. The internal refugees of the displaced people living in Guatemala or the external refugees living in Mexico?\r\n\r\n- Yeah we have carried on communication of then ongoing relationship with the refugee groups in Mexico, versus when they participated in the national dialogue. We. So, one of our leaders who's in our organization was a part of a group that participated in the dialogues in the refugee camps in Mexico. So there's a cooperative group of women in Mexico Wanamakin, which includes representatives from CONAVIGUA as well. There was a question back here?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Go on.\r\n\r\n- I was wondering, of the number of the widows that there are. Are there many that are able to remarry, or have difficulties with their situation.\r\n\r\n- There are large part of widows in Guatemala, 50,000 as a result of depression and others who die of diseases. I've seen that prohibited in some of the organizations for them wanting to marry. What we do try to do though is get an orientation, some education as far as women. I tried to have them think through as far as who they married, and that they would, during that can understand, understand that there's some people that are better married than others, because there are men in our country who would take advantage of our situation, and tell us they'll do one thing us and then they're just taking advantage of us.\r\n\r\n- Yeah how's\r\n\r\n- I can't really answer that very authoritatively anyway, what I have is I do know that they're carrying out elections in many parts of the country.\r\n\r\n- I'm not really sure what's the level of popular support it is for them in Guatemala. know that. The CONAVIGUA anyway does not have any relationship or any\r\n\r\n- Yes, the rebel forces in Guatemala or the armed forces, keeping in mind that there is a peace process now taking place outside Guatemala. Between these rebel forces and other sectors on the Werman side. The reason that they're not meeting inside Guatemala is because the Werman government and the Werman army told them that they don't have, that they cannot provide enough security for these rebels to meet in the Werman territorial. So there have been many meetings already. There was one in March of this year in Oslo Norway, between the rebels and the National Reconciliation Commission of Guatemala. The National Reconciliation Commission whose president is Bishop Rahul Focesar Torun, was created from the Esquipulas Act in 1987. So they met in Oslo Norway this year, and they reach a basic agreement, to start the peace process of the dialogue in order to reach a peace in Guatemala through a political negotiated solution. The second meeting was in Spain El Escorial, between the URNG, these armed position forces, and nine political parties. The third one was Ottawa, Canada, between the URNG and the private sector of the CACIF. The other one was in Quito, Ecuador, between the URNG and the religious organizations, and the final, not the final but the last one, took place in Mexico, between the URNG and 27 popular organizations of the general grassroots movement in Guatemala. So since this is very public now in the New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe, and many sources of information how to to know about these Peace process and even the real names of the rebel forces commanders. Yes, they're very strong in Guatemala, since 1987 the URNG has, the army has suffered more than 2,000 casualties per year. The Warman army and also 75 graduated of officers. Having in mind that, Warman army has a capability or they're capable just roughly 50 officers per year. You can have an idea that the Warman army, are queuing over these war with a great deficit in the human resources. The UNT are actively operating in more than 13 departments out of the 22 departments in Guatemala. They also were capable to bring the war over the urban areas last year and the beginning of this year, that was the reason that the Warman army and the government were pressured to permit these rebel forces to meet with all the other sectors of the Warman society. Also the army and the government of Vinicio Serezo, they thought, well, let the rebels and other sectors of the Warman society get together and make them happy so we can use these as a political tool for the upcoming elections, but what happened is the Warman army and the Warman government, isolated themselves, on this international community or political community, and in this case the URNG the rebel forces having open many political spaces in the war, they were able to put under the table or on the table the proposals for changes in Guatemala, and they have been converging with many of the sectors of the Guatemala society, in basic points how to bring peace to Guatemala, even with the CASIT with the private sector, they reached common ground, and two common grounds in this case, the first one is that Guatemala, the war in Guatemala must end through a political negotiated solution. And the second one was that, Guatemala has to grow economically.\r\n\r\n- So, is there any other questions?\r\n\r\n- I have two questions, one. Where they get their resources? And the second question is, if there any other organization that's helping them to organize their training programs?\r\n\r\n- When we first started our organization the first, I think the main support came from the women themselves. When we get together for meetings, we just brought our own tortillas, and just surviving ourselves. Everyone paid their own way in other words. Another form of support has been from Confredo, which is religious umbrella organization in Guatemala, stands for Religious Confederation of Guatemala. They've been a support to us too in the process. And as we grew in our organization, we have more help from other brothers and sisters, and other solidarity groups around the world. But in order for our organization to continue growing and gaining it's strength fold, we do need more resources to be able to expand. The women, as I mentioned before, the women in Guatemala are most exploited and are oppressed group within Guatemala. 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We also ask that you work to cut off US military aid to Guatemala. Another thing that you do is to denounce the general environment of violence in Guatemala, denouncing the human rights situation in Guatemala, because much of it that goes on and is never heard in the outside community.\r\n\r\n- What is the military aid to Guatemala now? What's the percentage? How's it broken down, or can you break it down?\r\n\r\n- What is the percentage of what? I can not hear you.\r\n\r\n- Sorry, you had mentioned the military aid to Guatemala. What is there? We all hear about how much it is to El Salvador, but you don't hear a lot about how much it is to Guatemala, and can you break it down? I mean, can you say, \"This is military and this is the the other, and this is whatever.\"\r\n\r\n- There's a large amount of aid given to Guatemalan government, both in terms of economic and military. As far as quantity, I'm not sure. In 1980, what happened in 1990, there was a nine million of military, where actually only three was actually dispersed. In a total of about 150 million economic developments, Peace Corps, and aid in NAIV. For 1993 or 1991, it's basically the same package. It's about 120 million total with $3 million of military aid have been approved. About 50 for economic, so 30 for development systems, five for Peace Corps. But what did happen this year, in terms of what will affect the disbursement of aid for next year, is that Guatemala has now been placed on what's called a Reprogramming Notification List. So, before any aid can be actually sent to Guatemala, it should have to pass through a House sub-committee which will decide based on its own criteria of human rights, whether or not that aid will actually be given to the government of Guatemala. There's no record of any country being placed on this list before, but in the case of Somalia, and they've all been African countries that have been placed on this list. And in one case, it has led to a complete cut of military aid to Guatemala.\r\n\r\n- Something important about the what the men and women in history receiving military aid, not just from the US administration, but also from Israel, Taiwan, South Africa, the government of South Africa and Argentina, is that since the army has the control of the three powers in Guatemala, of course it control in the Congress and the fiscal department. From the economic aid, 120 million, 150, 20 millions, the only thing that the army do is that they just transfer, through the fiscal department, more than half of this economic aid to the military. To give you an example, more than 33% of the national budget, and we're not talking about the national budget of Guatemala, I'm talking about the economic aid from all the countries. From the national budget of Guatemala, more than 33% goes to the military. So, you have an idea of figures, how it works.\r\n\r\n- Fermina mentioned, we don't hear much about the situation in Guatemala here in the States. Do you know why that is? Why it's being so neglected?\r\n\r\n- The reason that you don't hear anything is because the very people in control in Guatemala don't want you to know what's going on. Rather, they don't want you to know the reality of what's going on. What they want to promote is the idea that there's democracy in Guatemala, and that there's peace. One of the things that they've done is the Guatemalan Congress has an indigenous woman as a member of the Congress, and they've paraded her before the United Nations and other activities like this. She's been appearing before these different institutions, these international organizations, and said that the indigenous women in Guatemala are developing and are leading, basically, a good life. But this woman doesn't know that she has been brought on by these people, and that she's just being used to divert what's really going on. And the press is controlled by the military as well. They only allow certain information that they allow people to get.\r\n\r\n- Something important about that too is that the reason that Guatemala is submerged in a black hole, like probably only had the opportunity to listen to Covern this year in June in the National Conference in Washington, D.C. when Covern stated that it seems like Guatemala is under a conspiracy of silence. And it's true, he is right. You hear a lot about what's going on in San Paulo, what's going on in Nicaragua, what's going on in Panama, and the invasion by the US Armed Forces in December last year, but you barely hear what's going on in Guatemala. The reason why is Guatemala is very extremely strategic for the US Administration, economically, politically, militarily and geographically speaking. Guatemala has played historically, Guatemala has played a middle role in Central America. Also, the Guatemalan army has played a very important role in Central America, even in the Colonial times when the Spaniards were in power. In Haven de la Ermita, there are more than 400 North American transnational corporations actively operating in Guatemala. So this give you an idea of why Guatemala is submerged in this black hole, or wrapped up in this wall of silence. Under the domino theory, the US administrations have always, they have convinced themselves that if they lose Guatemala, they lose Guatemala they gonna lose the whole region. They were, by the mid-1980s, in the mid-'80s the US administration said, \"Well, we can probably lose Nicaragua, or we maybe accept to lose El Salvador in certain point of the history, but we cannot use Guatemala because if we lose Guatemala, we gonna be in big trouble.\" So that's the problem right now.\r\n\r\n- Well, I mean, I agree with that somewhat, yeah. But there's other points too.\r\n\r\n- Well, yeah-\r\n\r\n- In El Salvador, we hear from El Salvador not because people can't complain. We hear from El Salvador because the FMLN is very strong and very outspoken. We hear a lot from Nicaragua because Nicaragua is able to power. We hear from Panama, not through the Panamanians, but through the United States, the heads of the party down there. So, I mean-\r\n\r\n- Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right.\r\n\r\n- I wonder how strong these guerrilla groups are, and how can we hear more from them? Shall I translate?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I was saying that I was a bit surprised when she said that the Widows Association has no connection to the guerrillas. And I said that this surprised me for two things. One because supposedly they are pursuing the same objectives, and therefore I would have expected that there would have been some sort of solidarity between them. And second, if the guerrilla is a popular extraction, I would expect that many of the brothers, and husbands and sons of this indigenous women are actually in the guerrillas.\r\n\r\n- You would like to see that, or you believe that?\r\n\r\n- Well, where I come from the guerrilla was very high social extraction-\r\n\r\n- What are you talking about? The Montoneros, that's an urban type of work.\r\n\r\n- No, I'm talking about .\r\n\r\n- Oh, the . Okay, yeah, I get it.\r\n\r\n- But I would expect it, yeah. I mean, I would think that the guerrilla is a popular extraction. This is what you see most often.\r\n\r\n- The guerrilla movement has some ways of working and operating and being a strength, and organizing, and we have our own individual ways of working among the people.\r\n\r\n- Once again, I will try to address your question. Is that, yeah, there are many components in this problem Guatemala, and why Guatemala is not an issue, as El Salvador, or Nicaragua, or Panama. Once again, I guess that each process, liberation process, in Latin America and the Third World, has their own characteristics. For instance, in Guatemala, the war in Guatemala is the oldest war in Latin America. It has more than 30 years in existence. Even the war in Guatemala, if we have in mind that there are more than 150,000 political killings since 1954. More than 40,000 disappearances since 1966. The Guatemala has been experienced systematic counterinsurgency programs since 1966, right? You can have an idea, once again. The reason that Guatemala is submerged in this black hole, is because in Guatemala the low-intensity conflict in this counterinsurgency policies over the years are greatly sophisticated. For instance, in El Salvador, there is no model villages in El Salvador. There is no concentration camps, there's no development posts, there's no civilian patrols. Civilian patrols in Guatemala have more than one million boys and men forcefully participating. See, Guatemala has this counterinsurgency policy that those post-war days are over. Post-war, high security areas in the highlands. There are six development posts, and inside those six development posts are dozens of model villages, or concentration camps. Back then when Rios Montt, in 18 months he was capable to establish the modern low-intensity conflict in Guatemala. These model villages were tiled in strategic hamlets, like the ones in Vietnam. Just to give you an example how sophisticated is the counterinsurgency program in Guatemala, those model villages and those development posts are in symbiosis of three different counterinsurgency policies in the world. They're in symbiosis out of the kibbutz in the Gaza Strip, where the Palestinians are re-concentrated, the Bantustans in South Africa, and also the Strategic Hamlets Program from Vietnam. When Rios Montt designed this plan with Israel, using think tanks from the US and everything, he created the symbiotical counterinsurgency program in Guatemala. It never was Nicaragua under the Somoza dictatorship, never had these type of country, sophisticated counterinsurgency program. Neither Argentina or Uruguay. See, when you're talking about the army positioned forces, so the so-called guerrillas in , you're talking about an urban guerrilla, not a rural warfare. Well, yeah, and that's another thing in Guatemala. We have to have in mind that more than 60% of the Guatemalan population are indigenous. There are 22 different ethnic groups with their own languages, and their traditional dress and the culture. If another one of your questions is about San Pablo in Nicaragua. Once again, like I stated previously, the URNG is publicly known already, they are operating in more than 13 departments of Guatemala. Guatemala's composed by 22 states, legal states, so they're operating in more than half of the Guatemalan territory. They're causing 2,000 casualties, more than 2,000 casualties to the army per year, as 75 graduated officers from the army are dying in this war and the army just have the capability to graduate 50 officers per year. You can see that the Guatemalan army is carrying over this war with a great deficit to human resources. Now, you have to see the brutality of the Guatemalan army, the brutality of the security forces. Guatemala, historically speaking, has a counterinsurgency elite group, the Kaibiles, and they call themselves messengers of death. The best, well-trained, elite counterinsurgency troops in Latin America, and maybe in the Third World. So, these own characteristics, the specific characteristics of the Guatemala situation, has Guatemala submerged in this black, and also the US administration is very tight, and very strict in terms of how the media will approach the problem in Guatemala and the covert actions in Guatemala. I don't know if that answer you question. In Nicaragua, of course, after the revolution, Somoza, that's another problem, and Guatemala haven't had a single dictator in its history. The dictator in Guatemala is an institutional and constitutional army, a Guatemalan army that is an occupational, army of occupation within its territory. Because it doesn't play a role of an institutional army. As far as I understand, the concept of an institutional and constitutional army is the armed forces who are supposed to defend the territory against a neighbor or external operation of a country. And the Guatemalan army does not have a war with one of its neighbors. It's against the Guatemalan people. are you saying that you will expect, or you would like to see the coordinating with armed forces, seeing their sons and their husbands fighting that, like Fermina said. The armed forces have their own way to struggle, their own demands, and the Pobres in Guatemala, it struggles in different way with their own demands, an armed popular movement in Guatemala. If there's going to be a coincidence, historically speaking, between the popular movement and the armed forces, I can not tell you at this point. Maybe, I don't know.\r\n\r\n- Are there any more questions? I guess, one more over there. Maybe we should make this the last.\r\n\r\n- I think what he wants to know is, we've been hearing a lot, and a lot more is negative, and it's not that he's disagreeing with it, it's just that he's asking if there's something more of on a positive note. Or, not necessarily more a positive note, but what hope you see. Do you see hope? What kind of governor would be best for Guatemala? Or, what candidate might be a supporter? What position-\r\n\r\n- What type, what form of government?\r\n\r\n- Is there any hope there? You know, what changes?\r\n\r\n- Any government that arrives to power in Guatemala, arrives to the office in Guatemala, is not going to be able to produce the changes, given the fact that its the guerrilla and the military that controls what goes on. What we have in Guatemala is a civilian president who serves just as more of a facade for the international community, demonstrating that, trying to demonstrate that there's a democracy going on, but in reality, this person doesn't have any power. If the military stops governing, being the power with which they govern, then the people themselves would be able to govern.\r\n\r\n- Once again, we in Guatemala, we base our, as Guatemalans, we would like to see five main points of a government in Guatemala. Of course, civilian government under a type of formal democracy at this point. Do they want it? The point is, we want freedom, democracy, peace and justice, and self-determination. When we're talking about self-determination, we are not inventing the words, we're taking the words from Roosevelt from the '40s. But when we talk about freedom in Guatemala, we cannot talk about it in an abstract way, how freedom is. When we're talking about democracy in Guatemala, when we talk about social justice and peace, see in social justice we're talking about land before, but that's the problem, the unequal distribution of land in Guatemala. See, 2% of the Guatemala population owns more than 65% of the land, while more than 66% of the population, primarily indigenous, don't have any land. So, we go here and we come back again to the same point. It's like a vicious circle.\r\n\r\n- Are either of the two candidates that are gonna be in the next election less aligned to the military than the other, or are they both very strongly aligned?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, less or more?\r\n\r\n- They're both aligned with the military. Neither one of them are going to stand with the people. It's just like in the case of Vinicio Cerezo, the current civilian president of Guatemala, even though he's made many promises, when he came to power there were massacres and internal human rights situation during his administration.\r\n\r\n- You can have those candidates background, and the information that we have there is Sorrano Elias from the MAS party, and also Carpio Nicolle and from the UCN, their, not resume, but background is...\r\n\r\n- Thanks for your warm attention this evening, and your warm presence here. What we're looking for is the unity and sisterhood and brotherhood that we can create with people like you here, so that we can create a Guatemala that's useful to live in. We have a great hope of finding what it is we're truly looking for. We have a history of 500 years of resisting this oppression. We, as women, have incorporated our experience into the weavings that we make day by day. As we weave our clothing and other materials, thread-by-thread, we also are building our organization day-by-day and step-by-step to arrive to our goals. We await your solidarity with us. Good evening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/41086/file/112932#t=0.0,1553.208"}]}]}]}