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It is my privilege to introduce to you a man who many of his peers regard as the best investigative correspondent in the world. Seymour Hersh has arisen from a police reporter in Pierre, South Dakota, to an award-winning foreign correspondent and journalists for the New York Times. In 1970, he won the worth being on prize, the Sigma Delta Chi Distinguished Service Award, the George Polk Memorial Award and the Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting or his revelations of the My Lai massacre. In 1973, he won the Scripps-Howard Public Service Award and the Polk Award for his stories on the secret bombings in Cambodia. In 1974, he received the Sidney Hillman and Polk Awards for his reporting on domestic CIA spying. He is also the recipient of the John Peter Zinger, Freedom of the Press Award and the Drew Pearson Prize. In 1981, he won both the Polk Award, his fourth, which is the most by any reporter and the Sigma Delta Chi Award for his New York Times article the Gaddafi Connection on the sale of U.S. technology and weapons to Libya by former CIA agents, Frank Terpil and Edwin Wilson. He has just completed a book which took full-time four years work, which will be published in June. And the book deals with Henry Kissinger's service as national security advisor to Richard Nixon during Nixon's first term. David Halberstam has cited Mr. Hersh's quote, \"America's greatest snap national resource.\" But Gloria Emerson probably put it best. She said simply that hers was, \"A disturber of the peace,\" the peace of his friends, the peace of his competitors, the peace of those he was investigating. And most of all, the peace of complacent citizens and complacent government. Tonight, Mr. Hersh, we'll discuss Kissinger and Foreign Policy under Nixon. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Seymour Hersh,\r\n\r\n- That's you love photogs. What I plan to do is tell you what's on my mind. And answer as many questions as everybody wants to ask before we go back and see what the tipsy one and get on with the really important things in life. And I guess if I have a message, I do have a message and if it's a message it's sort of I'm gonna tell you my version of a reality. And my feelings generally in terms of what happened in the Nixon Kissinger years, but in terms of the powerless of the press that their lack of power and it's sort of funny to say, most of us associate great influence on the part of the press. And I think it's hard to explain why so many people think we have influence, and I guess I've evolved some sort of thought about it, which is that people not empower Walter Mondale, Gary Hart, et cetera think we have tremendous power. People like Ronald Reagan know how little we really do have, and a way to describe it. I think a context for everything I'm gonna say has to do with Central America as somebody who would cut his teeth on Vietnam and came to fruition as a journalist on Vietnam. I'm absolutely terrified about Central America and about how little we can do we in the press, how easy it is for Ronald Reagan to manipulate us and I'll get into all of that. And the way to get into it, I think is maybe that takes something, let me read something first. There's been some reasonably good stuff written in the last two weeks about Central America, in terms of members of Congress finally getting a little concern about what our policies are there, the secret war in Nicaragua about the efforts in the New York Times, Sunday, for example, it was a very good story that we're gonna set up a secret training base in the Honduras. The best comment I guess, comes in this, it was an article this is Xerox, a copy of their article in the Boston Globe old four months ago, January 83, William Colby, the former head of the CIA. I don't know if you remember Colby. Colby was this, guy with them sending blonde hair and horn-rimmed glasses a very developed Catholic a lot of integrity who simply was never responsible for anything. Anything he did he never was responsible for among the things he did when he was head of the CIA. And I like him. I think he's got much more credibility than other people who ran the CIA Mr. Helms and the man who is running it now Mr. Casey. On the other hand, Colby ran an assassination program in Vietnam called Phoenix. Which anywhere from 20,000, which is our account, to 45,000, which is the Vietnamese account. People, many of them, I think civilians, many of them perhaps communist were executed in their beds by American led teams. So, pretty rotten operation, but Colby's in an interview in the Boston Globe. And he's backing the freeze. He's a pro freeze man. He's got a very moderate position on a very sensible position, I guess, on the freeze of nuclear arms. And in the course of the interview, he says this, Colby, even when he admitted to Congress, that operation Phoenix designed to neutralizes, one of those wonderful words were almost there. Or well 1984, designed the neutralize, hardcore Vietcong that is murder them, produced a body count in excess of 20,000. Colby refused to disavow counterinsurgency as a blunt and brutal instrument. His faith and shaken Colby feels that the lesson of Vietnam can be put to good use in El Salvador, \"Some of the staff who helped organize \"the villages in Vietnam.\" And he specifically referred to a man known as John Negroponte, who was our ambassador to the Honduras, \"Are now directing affairs in El Salvador \"and trying to wonderful phrase, engage the population.\" Well, I hadn't, it's being said pretty clearly more or less now in the last week that we're really in something pretty deep. But until that I was just staggered by this. I mean, here's somebody saying what it is. We learned a lot in Vietnam. We learned about jungle war. We learned about killing people and we're gonna put it to good use. This is obviously what the policy is, but nobody ever said it. Reagan's never said it. What can we in the press do about it? A hell of a lot less than you think. The present United States decides he wants to run, Reagan wants to run a covert operation in Central America and not tell us and not tell Congress very much. There's not much we can do. We're very passive. We can do some reporting, but there's not a hell of a lot we can do. He really controls things. It's a terribly frightening thing to say, even after Watergate, even after Vietnam. But I think there's a lot of misunderstandings also about maybe not so much about Vietnam, but certainly about Watergate. Watergate for most people is a wonderful story about how the press destroyed the presidency or brought them down. I shouldn't say destroyed, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein or Redford and Hoffman, depending on who is synonymous with most people's mind, knocking on doors and driving Nixon out of power. And it's a great victory for the press EGO for years afterwards. There's a tremendous fascination with the press and in colleges, journalism schools sort of blossomed. And the sense was that if there were no scandals on page one, why there were no scandals, we were there sort of as the seeing eyes and ears or whatever cliche you want. Fourth, fifth to state, I can never tell which one was supposed to be, I guess, the fifth. Okay. Let me tell you my story of Vietnam. And it has to go with the book I've just done in a sense, the book I've just done really just, what happened is I did so much work on obviously as you heard all those certainly well we've ordered much ballyhooed work on them and Kissinger Nixon era. And I did Watergate. I was sort of the New York Times catch man for Woodward and Bernstein. And I got into it pretty heavily. It was very clear that as bad as Nixon was on those tapes and everybody remembers those tapes and in a domestic stuff, there's absolutely no reason to assume he knew what he was doing in foreign affairs either. In other words, for all of the grand standing by Henry Kissinger and all of the Harvard academia and intellectual sort of presidency brought, there's no reason to think that they weren't going along day by day. what do we do today? And it turns out to a large degree. It's worse than that. Yeah it's pretty bad. Anyway, let me give an example of misconception or misperception. I never know is they're both words, I guess, I think misperception is the one least used. I once looked it up and I couldn't find it, but it is a word misperception, Watergate classic example of a big press victory. Here's my Watergate. And when I'm done with this, let's do some questions. There's not a lot of us and we can really have a good time I think. I'm here. I live in Washington, I'm surrounded by Republicans. I don't like Ronald Reagan in this sense. I said earlier, there was a seminar earlier for the journalism students and I said, Reagan has done one wonderful thing. He's managed to convince everybody. He's just sort of an aimless sort of, gee whiz, poor people and defaults and mortgages and crisis and economics. Well, I think he's a miserable son of a bitch who doesn't care about the middle class or the lower middle-class and just doesn't care. And I just know I do, and he happens to be nice to the press and he's pretty good guy. And I also think he's gonna run again and my own private reason for thinking he's gonna run again, is that he married a woman who never made it in Hollywood, and now she's a star. And once she's on, what is it, the different strokes that the show and she conducted something for the Washington symphony and she's not gonna give it up, she's never. She's making, in the way she never could. And so, based on what we call them politics, pillow talk he's doomed. He's also probably most likely to defeat any Democrat, but I still think watch out for Kennedy and we can talk about that to Watergate Nixon. Now, again, before I begin kicking Nixon around and I am one of those people who can watch them get impeached two times a month for the rest of my life, happily. I can watch that speech, that farewell speech he gave about his mother. Anyway, pretty loony go think about that sometime that speech. I work now for the Atlantic. I finished this book and I joined the Atlantic. I'm sort of done with daily journalism and the story I'm doing right now in the middle of doing it, is a story that really deserves to be done on Gerald Fords pardon to Nixon. It's never really been done, right. And, everybody knows that there was a deal and I'm just spending a lot of time proving it. What kind of a deal it was. And one of the things about Nixon that's absolutely staggering in the end, I've gotten really inside, it's been a long time and nobody cares. I'm talking to people that haven't talked to anybody in five, six years. I'd probably never talked to anybody. People listened to all the tapes that White House, was full of what they call dead keys by that, I mean Al Haig and Richard Nixon had all sorts of people that could pick up phones. And when they were in conversations with third parties, a lot of click, that quite form. And in the end, somebody who spent a lot of time listening to Nixon in the last month. Said in the end, it was fascinating because he really was two people. There was this bad guy, Nixon who did all these terrible things. And then there was the president and he would talk at nauseum about the president. They're not really not gonna do anything to the president. Are they? Nixon may have done things wrong, but they're not gonna hurt the president. It's fascinating stuff. Anyway, it's sort of fun. Living in the past is all right, because the president isn't so great either anyway, right? So, kicking Nixon around is easy because he was bad. He was worse than we know, but he was bad. But in foreign policy, Richard Nixon was not that much of an aberration in this sense. Nixon believed profoundly that you could do anything you wanted as president, you could lie to the American people and use force anywhere you wanted without telling the American people. And in that, he was absolutely following a wonderful tradition that began really with Jack Kennedy, I'd have to give Eisenhower an awful lot of credit for having as much integrity and foreign affairs as any president Truman and he found. And certainly more, I think, frankly, than FDR. But let's start with '61. Jack Kennedy came into office and on not that one of those although I'm a devote liberal Democrat who believes that Jack Kennedy would have stopped the Vietnam war. And that the story we get from Schlesinger and Sorensen historians is that yeah, he knew he was in trouble on Vietnam, but he was gonna wait until after the election and then ended he was gonna do exactly what everybody else did. And he saw it as, my guess I have no empirical data. He saw it as a test of his manhood. Jack Kennedy brought a lot of new words into our vocabulary. Nation building, canal insurgency, green Berets, four to five Hamlet, strategic hamlets, a lot of new words, all directed to escalating the war in Vietnam. Green Berets is a sick, the CIA on everybody. See, I got tremendous carte blanche on the Jack Kennedy. Then the Johnson came in with the same sort of basis of a same principles. And that is, as we saw in the Gulf of Tonkin, if anybody who doesn't remember this, will be staged managed there was a minor league North Vietnamese PT boat attack and two American intelligence chips that we managed to create, make into a justification for the first bombing of North Vietnam in '64. He sent the American troops into combat in '65 without telling the American people that he had done so. He thought simply that there was, as the old cliche was, there was the right of the government to lie. Nixon comes into power in '69, '68 is elected. I don't think he's feeling about foreign policy was any worse than anybody else. He simply had the same sort of craziness that we still see today, which is that there's no reason to tell the American people They're the last we played this elaborate set peace game with the Soviets, and I'm open for questions and criticisms. And I'd be glad to talk about it at nauseum. Okay. Next thing comes in. And his basic campaign thesis was, he had a plan, a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam. He never articulated because he didn't have to, he won a close election within a month. He gets into office January 20th. And here's my Watergate. Okay. I'm gonna tell you a few things. All of which I spent a lot of time on and within a month, January 20th, '69 he's inaugurated. He goes to a ceremony takes over by February 16th. He begins holding some secret meetings in the White House with Kissinger. His National Security Advisor, Bill Rogers, the Secretary of State, Mel Laird, who is Secretary of Defense. And Dick Helms, the CIA Director, what he wants to do is he wants to show the other side that he's a lot tougher customer than Lyndon Johnson. And he's gonna show him that he's willing to take a lot of chances. The strategy basically is a threat strategy and sort of scare strategy. He's gonna intimidate the other side. They decided they're gonna start bombing Cambodia. Cambodia had been a big, the North amazing Vietcong were using Cambodia as a staging area. The joint chiefs of staff had been trying for years to get in the Johnson to let them go into Cambodia and wipe them out. Johnson had always said no on the prudent advice that we weren't doing so well on the one ground war we were in South Vietnam. were expanded. Okay. Nixon wants to expand it, March 16th, the first bombings begin. So, you could be '52 bombing of Cambodia. The thing that's thinking about it is there's a couple of things. Significant one is it uses the SAC, the B-52s, the strategic air command, basically your nuclear force. It has them bombing. The bombs are officially reported as falling in South Vietnam, but there had redirected at the last moment through very secure, high technology ways. And they're hitting in Cambodia. The people dropping the bombs. Now the people at headquarters know a few people in Washington know headquarters that is South, in the SAC headquarters in Guam. Military men had a lot of problems with this. I have to tell you because the strategic air command is also responsible for dropping nuclear weapons on a very careful plans. If you start lowering the threshold of what they can do, obvious implications are clear. if you can start, somebody mentioned tonight at dinner, Tom Lira, that famous satirist from Harvard. Remember his, the mathematician, a Harvard man. He used to sing these little ditties he prepared and stuff like that. And one of his favorite ditties is he has a song about Vurner Van Brown, the German V2, rocket scientist, and the line is something to that effect Von Brown aim for the moon, but often hit London. I always think of this when I think of the B-52 bombing. Okay, what's important about it. Well, one of the things that's important about is what happened. It lasted 14 months, 3,630 missions were flown by B-52 reported wrongly inside the military own secret chain of command. If you're in Berlin, you don't know these, you think these bombs are falling in South Vietnam. You're getting classified reports on it. 110,000 tons of bombs were dropped over the next 14 months. Okay, nobody knew about it. In may '69, Bill Beecher reporter for the New York Times. Now working for the Boston Globe writes a story about new pressures in the Vietnam war. Nixon is he had a bombing mission. He describes one B-52 rate over Cambodia. And Beecher says, \"This is an example of the lengths \"they'll go.\" He doesn't describe it as systematic. And he certainly doesn't begin to understand that it's the bombs are being reported wrongly inside the chain of command. Panic at the White House. This we know from the Watergate investigations, Hoover and Kissinger talk. This is the famous intersection and not so famous, but this is the intersection of Watergate and Vietnam. Wiretaps begin over the next 21 months until February '71, 17 people are wiretapped, including four newspaper men, but basically 13 members of the Nixon administration, including Kissinger's own staff aides and including the men closest to both the Secretary of Defense Mr. Layered, and the Secretary of State, Mr. Rogers, their key aids are wiretapped both at home, basically, which means that you're really wiretapping the secretary of defense and the secretary of state. Since they handle almost all of business for them. I'm not disillusioning you when I tell you that the top men don't often get directly involved in the offense they pick up on memos. The wiretapping is known to be illegal by the White House. It also produces incredible gossip first. I mean, I can't tell you that some of this. I've seen often an awful lot of the official summaries, sex life everything that said privately about everybody in the White House. And these include people who work with Kissinger every day and they do a lot of gossiping, pretty amazing stuff, no national security stuff, because among the things you learn right away is to be careful on the phone. If you're gonna leak and all of us knew it as a reporter, I knew it. You don't leak on the phone. You meet somebody in a bar. Clearly whatever the initial instinct was, the function eventually was something else that listen, eavesdrop. Nonetheless, the wiretaps FBI sets up a special unit. They rent special quarters. They sign special people. None of these wire taps on the normal flow of national security, wiretaps. Those are different. None of these wiretaps are known to anybody outside of few people, special secretaries to transcribe the tapes are recruited, et cetera. Everybody knows it's dynamite. Big deal May 1st, 1970. We invade Cambodia, the famous invasion for some of you remember Ken state and that led to the Ken state outcry. Our American ground forces in South Vietnamese crossed the border. We begin to ground war in Cambodia, which basically dooms Cambodia, but we didn't know it then if I don't think they knew it. It's pretty clear they didn't know, a lot of people warned that it would put Cambodian a war it could not win, but that's not the issue. The issue is what I'm talking about. As Nixon describes the event, justifies it with a television address. He's sitting in front of the American people in his office. He's got an American flag and his lapel behind him as a photograph of or a drawing or painting of Abraham Lincoln. He says to us, \"It's in the record, \"we have never violated the neutrality of Cambodia at all.\" A few days later this time, by the way, we've dropped 110,000 tons of bombs in Cambodia. It's a whopper of all time. He looks us right in the eye and he says it a few days later, his secretary of state, Mr. Rogers goes before the Senate foreign relations committee and a hearing that's still classified secret or top secret. And he goes a little further. He says, we've never violated the neutrality of Cambodia and thought word indeed or deed, okay. Whopper of all time. By the late summer of 1970, with everything and just shambles, his policies really hurting, his Vietnam war is going nowhere none of the great successes have come through. He hasn't done China yet. He hasn't done the salts stuff yet, which are significant achievements. He's in trouble. He's got congressional elections coming up. Two other events take place. One of the things he does is he orders an incredible escalation in domestic spying by the CIA, Lyndon Johnson had started in '67. He was worried about blacks. And he asked the CIA to keep a special eye on them. By the fall of '70, no less than 54 agents are assigned. I agree. I think at 62 or 54 are assigned full-time to doing in the side of the CIA to monitoring the anti-war movement, the black radicals totally against the law illegally and led the big investigations, the church hearings, et cetera. Later, the church, sheriff, Frank church's sub committee on intelligence. All of this stuff goes on. Nixon gives it a big jump. He drives it from around 10, 12 men to over 50. He wants to know what's going on. He doesn't always trust Hoover and the FBI, the CIA will do it for him a few weeks later, really the same time in the fall. There's a lot of concern over Chile where Salvador Allende Gossens. A socialists, Marxists, what you will, certainly somebody who's doesn't believe necessarily in big business American corporations and multinational corporations is elected by the people of Chile. There's gonna be a runoff election. You have to get a majority. He doesn't have a majority. he has a plurality there's three candidates. He's first on the Chile in tradition, whoever finishes first in the popular election is sure that when the congressional election it goes into a Congress is eight weeks between the popular election and the big congressional election, Nixon orders everything among other things, the assassination of a Yen-day, which they cannot do, but certainly a major program to make it impossible for him to win, failing that in October, he orders the CIA to destabilize Yen-day's regime over the next two years, $12 million. And I'm sure much more, but we can account for that much is spent on a Yen-day. What do we have going? By the fall of '70, here's what we have. We have the president able to bomb another nation with which he is not declared war and which about which Congress has been told nothing he's been able to bomb them for 14 months and drop 110,000 tons of bomb. He's still in the middle of a wiretap program by late '70s, eight people are still being wiretapped, including people who have no connection at all whatsoever to the government. Morton Halperin, for example, a Kissinger aid has been out of the government for over a year at this point, but it's working for Muskie. Who's a potential presidential candidate. He's being wiretap still. He seek the CIA on a Yen-day, sick them on the American students. And other radicals, he's also publicly told us that he had not done anything in Cambodia at a time when he'd been doing it for 14 months. Okay, he's skating free. I hope you begin to understand what I'm talking about because if you go back and read the newspapers, but I'm telling you that it's not there this history doesn't emerge. And won't for years, obviously. In June of '71, Daniel Ellsberg, released the Pentagon papers through the New York Times, which you should know about Ellsberg, is that he also was a secret advisor and on the payroll of Henry Kissinger when he was working in Nixon White House, Ellsberg is a little wacky, but he's a genius of the first order. He was one of the first people who put our whole nuclear targeting strategy into work. By that, I mean, he was, that is PhD in economics from MIT when he was 22 or 23 and became a strategic planner for the military, land corporation, air force was one of the people that provided some sort of coherence to the whole notion of how many nuclear weapons do you target a bridge in the Soviet Union with. He knew where the bombs were targeted and what the rules were. And he later switched from that to Vietnam, where he certainly knew everything about Vietnam, how to run it. He also was picked up by Kissinger right away when he began to work for Nixon only Kissinger couldn't tell Nixon who he was hiring because Ellsberg was considered already a little bit dangerous as a lefty. Somebody who turned on the war, but Ellsberg's genius was such that he came into the White House and he wrote a whole series of internal papers for Henry Kissinger working in the Nixon White House for the first time months. Ellsberg's always been described as somebody who could hurt the Nixon White House only because he had documents dating back to the Johnson era, the Pentagon papers. But in fact, he had documents dating back to the Nixon error. He had classified stuff from Nixon. He was a real threat. And by the way, when you look back in history, the Pentagon papers, as we all know, told us the truth about what was going on in Vietnam. I can't think of any documents more important in my lifetime. I mean, they're hard to read. They're awful, but they're sensational because they show for first time the sort of carelessness with which the Kennedy planners and the Johnson planners just took the right, not only to lie, but underneath that, right, is we give them a tremendous amount of trust. We give our American policy planners the right to take our children and put a gun in their arms and tell them to go murdering, get murdered. We do give them that right? If there's anything I learned about the My Lai massacre, was that the people who did the executing were as much victims as the people, they shot 19 year old, 18 year old kids in the middle of a foreign country, for which they've been poorly trained, no motivation no idea, led by men who had no idea other than killing as many people as they could to get a body count so they could get a promotion. I mean, it's the whole notion of a play within a play. And so, we have this incredible system in this country. We send our children off because we trust our leaders or we did it at some point. Anyway. I hope we don't always, I don't think they deserve it. And I guess I'm talking about some sort of insurrection, but I'm not sure that's the right word. The Pentagon papers are. They told us about the reality of Vietnam. And by the way, the words used in the Pentagon papers particularly by the the Kennedy people McNaughton and some of the Johnson people. They would talk about turning up the ratchet and turning the wind shut on Vietnamese a little bit like the Nixon people and some of the talk you had about the hanging out tough sort of the same, we made fun of the Nixon people, hanging toughing. And some of the John Ehrlichman statements about this tough talk, I think that the Kennedy people and the Johnson people privately at the same sort of toughness the same vulgarity only we don't have their tapes. We wouldn't like him any more than we like the Nixon tapes I assure you. So, my thesis, if it means anything is I think the Pentagon papers and reality are to what we knew, they were shocking in terms of what they told us about the Vietnam war. If there is an analogy it's between X, for what we know now to reality in Central America, I assure you that if there were such a dorset set of documents that the Pentagon papers of the Central American war it would be as much of a disparity between what we think is going on and what happened she has going on. Maybe not as acute because in Vietnam, we had American troops, but there certainly would be a tremendous if we could get the internal workings of the Reagan administration on this war in Central America, what they really wanna do, it would be as much of a gap there as it wasn't Vietnam, as the Pentagon papers showed us. Anyway, Ellsberg was primae we now know that the plumbers were started G. Gordon Liddy, E. Howard Hunt, Eagle Crow, David Young, the White House set up a special police unit. They were not as the higher than the police, they would Liddy the former FBI guy who now runs around giving speeches. And by the way, just so about the whole business of G Gordon Liddy getting 4 or $5,000 honorariums, most of those honorariums are designated wealthy, very conservative people will go to a school and make a grant. And the grant will go this way. It will give you $5,000, if you will bring Liddy on that's, how he gets those universities aren't necessarily generating those voluntarily. I think it's within the constitutional right of anybody to do it. It's just interesting that most people think this great residue of interest in Liddy. There isn't. It just represents a point of view that some people like to see propagated, if that's the word on campuses, Liddy's bizarre is he's totally, he's a, basically a madman runs around burning his hand and stuff like that. I have a story about him. I gave a speech once, sorry, Tootsie isn't on yet. I gave a speech once. And I'm at the women's democratic club after Watergate in Washington, which is this sort of upper more or less crust sort of collection of people. And after the speech, a woman came up to me who had purchased a house from G. Gordon Liddy. And in, I guess I Chevy Chase, D.C. area of Washington is a residential area, Washington, 70% black and the white enclave. And anyway, in this area she had bought this house and it was perfectly nice house. And she and her husband one day where they redecorated and they were hanging up, whatever, they're hanging up, artwork, photographs in a double brick wall by the fireplace, external bricking, interior and external bricks, two layers, and a husband's started hammering and nailing. And I'll make this short, which the woman did not do I brought along the story. And in essence he couldn't get a nail in and he poked around and he found a, spent jacket, a bullet in the brick, and they eventually found 2000 shells embedded into the wall behind the fireplace. And it had a rubric. And you do get a sense of G. Gordon Liddy, sitting there with watching SWAT with a six gun on his lap at the appropriate moment, getting off into the wall and really, he's very weird. He's a real, the point is Liddy hunt, they're sick against Ellsberg. They break into Dan Ellsberg cycle analyst office. I'm an obviously thinking that psychoanalysts do nothing, but take copious notes on what people tell them our tape. I don't know what they thought they'd find in the office other than a whole series of notes about why does an Ellsberg pay more promptly? Anyway, they break into his office looking for whatever answers they're looking for. They find nothing. The people that they use the break in this is sort of interesting are the same people that showed up. Make an attempt to beat him up, get the wrong guy, obviously get into it. Not only did they not succeed in September at the psychoanalyst office, they did break into the office, but they found nothing. Eight months later, they're attempting to beat up Ellsberg and they do nothing were gonna intimidate him, scare him get them to stop talking. Two of them get arrested, but are released when somebody from the White House intervenes, it is this group. They send him the Watergate in June against Larry O'Brien's office. Talk to people still to this day think there was some plot or double agent involved in the betrayal of these people when they broke in and their arrest. It's very clear that they're just totally incompetent. Didn't know what they were doing, but the pattern is interesting. What's the pattern. The pattern is that you go back and read the New York Times, let's say, which is a newspaper for which I worked in, which I have great respect and affection. You go back and read the New York Times for '72. Let's say the late summer and the months before the election, you read Mag, I'll refer you specifically to magazine profiles that ran that summer and fall on John Ehrlichman and Bob Haldeman, the chief of staff and the chief domestic guy, both of whom were indicted in Watergate. And what do you find? Wonderful testimonials about how prudent they are. Maybe they're a little hard-nose, maybe then they don't please everybody. Maybe they're a little conservative, but they're solid guys. And they work with Nixon and they keep the ship of state of fault. And Nixon is a very pragmatic, tough square guy that knows what he wants to do. What did the press do? Well, when did we learn about all of these events? We learned about the wiretapping in May of '73, we learned about the illegal use of B-52s in Cambodia in May of '73. We learned about the CIA in Chile in September of '74, we learned about domestic spying in December of '74, we learned about the Ellsberg canceling nickel, dine games basically in May and June of '73. What am I telling you is what is it after it's after the election of '72. Who's got a complaint against the press? I can't think of anybody more than the Democrats and McGovern, whatever you think of McGovern, whatever you think of Democrats, they might've elected somebody else. I posed you at the press far from making Watergate and solving Watergate and bringing down the president made it possible. I pose to you that it seemed, it's absolutely logical to say that the press, by being unable to penetrate any of the operations, the major operations of the Nixon administration at the time, or even within three years in the case of the bombing and the wiretapping before the elections made Nixon gave him that 61% plurality. Not that he wouldn't have won without it, but I just suggest to you that if you think the press did in Richard Nixon, you are missing something, the press made it possible. I really mean that we did not because we're not good or we can't do things. The ability of a president to get away with stuff, no matter how good we are is enormous. He can bomb for 14 months. He can wire tap for 21 months. He can turn the CIA loose in a foreign country. Who's against man whose only sin was winning an election. He can turn the CIA loose at home. He can go into psychiatrist's office and beat up men who he opposes, who even worked for him with impunity. He can do it. He got tripped up by two police reporters from the Washington Post who did a wonderful job, but then bag them because the whole press Corps looked there, we were all. I was at the New York Times every day. We said, \"We've been at Bernstein, they're screwing up.\" Post is really gonna be in trouble. They don't have it. It wasn't until the spring of '73 that we began to understand the dimensions, not so much of the break in which wasn't the crime. The crime of the Nixon administration was to cover it up. They were covering up because of fear of the other things, obviously, whatever else they had done, the bombing and the CIA. Well, give me an argument about it. Some people say to me, why didn't Nixon destroy the tapes? And you can argue and intellectualize. I don't have an empirical answer, but I'll tell you why. Who is he gonna be afraid of? Who's gonna get the tapes, the press? Give me a break. I mean, it must've been the most shocking thing to him to realize the press was gonna put him in jeopardy for all of his fear of the press. We had not been able to penetrate within an inch, within a mile. So, Richard Nixon a prudent advice would be destroyed a tapes before somebody talks about them and you're gonna find out. Who's gonna find out? Forget it. You don't even worry about it. The press is the last thing. You can always handle them and you always do. This isn't that I'm not peeing in my own head here. Ellsberg came to see me, by the way in June of '72, he took me to lunch in New York. And he said, \"Look, you don't know me from Adam.\" I didn't. I knew him by reputation. He said, \"I'm telling you right now.\" And he then proceeded to layout exactly what Nixon was going to do. He's gonna bomb annoy. He's not gonna get out of this war without putting the B-52 bombers. And I know the famous Christmas bombing. He told me he's gonna do exactly what he did. I think he was, it was even before the mining of Haiphong, which was in May. It must've been an April he saw me, or maybe in March. He told me everything he was gonna do. And I laughed him out of the ballpark. Why? Because he didn't have a piece of paper. He didn't have a smoking gun. And look, I'm good. I'm good. And I wanted to believe him. And I didn't just laugh out of the ballpark. I saw it. And I tried, and there was nowhere to go with it. The answer is the power isn't ours. I don't know where the power is, but it isn't in the press. I know the way to put it. If there's gonna be a social revolution in the United States don't expect the press to lead it. We won't even know about it for six months. And that's where we are. So, having said all that. What do you say? So, we don't end up on a deadbeat. You say this, and you say that the biggest collapse, I think of our system of government, isn't the presses, because I think the press by and large has done a much better job they're much more skeptical. They certainly more skeptical. I think one thing you can say we've accomplished, we've kept Ronald Reagan from putting troops down there. That doesn't mean we stopped them to many of his goals, we've made it harder for him. And he said, \"Gotta operate more covertly.\" We made it more difficult. The real failure has been Congress. I'm really mad at them. The failure of Congress is an enormous one. Congress has simply not been grabbing it. Congress has been diminished. I don't know why. We see nobody in Congress, none of the people running for president and are willing to take a moral stand on the war in Central America. And it scares me about it. I'll tell you what scares me about it. This is no great insight, but you have a problem where everybody is now, television is available to everybody, okay? Cable, TV, satellites. They can all see the soaps. They can all see not so much the nightly news, those they don't get to see often, but the I half hour, hour TV nightly entertainment that garbage is on basically. And everybody gets a sense of what's out there and what's possible what they can have a piece of theirs. And you have a country like Nicaragua, where Samoza and 17 families control. And we've all seen those ads for Colombian coffee, with the man telling how wonderful it is to pick coffee for a dollar a day or $2. People eventually figure out that there's a lot better way to work a lot better way to live. And that American corporations aren't necessarily good for them. They're taking off a lot of profits out and they want different leaders. They're tired of military people, the tired of oligarchy. Yes you can call it nationalism. It happened in Africa in the last 40 years. It's certainly happening in Central America. Yes, the Russians may be involved in helping and the Cubans, but that isn't where it started. That isn't what it's about. That's minor basically in the scheme of things and what's happening by overreacting the way we did, right now, we have the Israelis training in that part of the world. What we don't do, we have the Israelis doing first predicting Guatemala, there's genocide going on right now, particularly again in Guatemala, against the Indians. The activities of the Americans operating on out of Honduras against Nicaragua is certainly in violation of every law, about such activities and basically a secret war. And it's been going on for two years and getting worse. In El Salvador, we managed to always like we are all over the world to be on the side of the fingernail pullers and intervene in the direct way. And the violence that we have encouraged, the brutality reminds me of Vietnam in '66, '67, where a lot of people there rose up against the government. Not because they were communist, not because they remember the Viet men or the net NLF or the Vietcong or the North Vietnamese supporters, but because they were against the injustice of the government and one look at the Americans on the side of the government with the, what I call general motors with their guns and tanks and airplanes and death and destruction and relocation. And you become an enemy. You become a gorilla, you become a communist, just like, I think we were making communists at the rate of hundreds a day throughout the Vietnam war. I think we're making them right now in Central America. And what didn't that start out to be a threat two years ago may eventually be a very serious ideological threat. In the sense you may have a very serious anti-democratic, anti-American movement. You do. And the wish may be the whatever the cliche is about. you get the drift and we may, and now everybody talks about Mexico. We may threatened. Maybe Mexico is the most destabilized, screwed up country right now we have. I mean, basically in this, in this part of the world and this hemisphere. Mexico is very, it's like Egypt, it's hanging on by its threads. Years ago, when I was doing this book, somebody once told me about CIA, when were talking about CIA stations as of '70. And he said, \"What do you think the largest station is?\" And I of course said Saigon. He said, \"No guess again.\" I said Berlin. He said, no. Well, the first largest station in the world is in Mexico city. The second one is in Ottawa because we're not about the let our people to the North and South go anyway we don't want them to go. We've got real problems and Reagan's activities. You don't need me to tell you the counterproductive. What scares me is they may end up making a real communist threat, a threat that they were afraid of. Well, all of which I say, I don't know where we stand. The press isn't gonna help you on any of this stuff. Believe me, it's not, it's gonna do some stories one day good, one day, well, one day, not so well. You all remember the election last year in El Salvador, which everybody initially thought was a wonderful election, how great it was, everybody voted. And it was a great victory for the conservative forces. And the gorillas really lost while we now know what a scandal it was that. There has been study after study, showing people were coerced and threatened with their life. And the results were gerrymandered to death and fraud. There was forgery. And who knows what happened in the election, despite the coercion involved while we're at the mercy. If you read the newspapers for the few weeks after that, except for Raid Bonner and the New York Times, you really were in trouble. Well, there, that's what I have to say. It's not a cheerful message. I think we gotta talk as long as I do understand there's no plane out of here tonight, so I'm not going any place. And anybody with questions and feel free, you can please disagree with me. Tell me to disagree with the notion that the press maybe isn't as much responsible for Watergate is, I liked that notion and the more I think about it, the more I like it. I mean, I just think that we failed terribly in the first reason with Nixon. That's what I found in this book, anyway. I found there is incredible gap, the newspapers, I would go, I did a thousand interviews and I really dug into it. Almost every issue, lots of time on salt in the middle East and going and reading the newspapers, what I came to, this sort of thing, inductively, because the newspapers didn't relate to what I was doing. It just didn't relate. Then they gave me some time and dates. They didn't relate. Okay, by the way, you have a great man here. I commend them. Harold Hughes. I once years after he was out of the Senate in '75, I went to see him. He was running this Christian fellowship program in Washington, eating about 400 pork chops a day, really getting big. And I went to see him and Harold Hughes had done the most dramatic, brave stuff I'd ever seen in the Senate. He was in the Senate Armed Services Committee, which is a very conservative place. And he was getting beaten up by John Stennis and John tower. And they were really beating him up and would insist on holding these hearings. And to these guys who did stuff wrong in the military, and he held a couple of terrific sets of hearings. He held a set of hearings on the B-52 bombing of Cambodia. He held another set of hearings on a man who, a general who allegedly bombed North Vietnam, 28 times without authorization. Harold Hughes knew there's no way a general can do that. And only he, general took the ride. He got his pension and he took the ride and he shut up. But he was knew there was something wrong with the White House. Obviously it was behind it. And anyway, years later, I called him up and I went to lunch. I worked with them very closely in these hearings and Hughes had a good staff and I thought he should have been president, but I will say this. I took him to lunch and we're talking. I finally said, okay, come on Senator and I said, \"Why did you do it everybody on your case? \"What made you decide to stand up and hold these hearings \"and take the ridicule and getting beaten up.\" And he said, \"I used to cry sometimes,\" he would be so angry and enraged at the terrible things that were said to him. So, he told me, he know doesn't begin to know what a lie is. He would cry. And he said, I first, I was very disappointed, but eventually I began to like the answer he told me, God told him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105697#t=0.0,2749.02204"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - 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it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=7.98,9.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And initially I was very disappointed,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=9.23,10.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but then I decided it's a pretty good answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=10.4,12.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, if he thinks he can talk to God,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=12.46,14.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more power to him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=14.53,15.483"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He has my respect forever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=17.96,18.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, let's do some questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=18.96,20.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As long as you want,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=20.41,21.243"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as many as you want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=21.243,23.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If somebody has something to say...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=23.01,23.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=23.95,24.783"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=36.36,37.193"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think that's a lot of it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=38.27,39.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it's not even a poor job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=39.39,40.87"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wouldn't even say a poor job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=40.87,42.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would just say an average job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=42.15,43.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, it's just the job that gets done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=43.7,45.92"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The press is there,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=45.92,46.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the president says something and they report it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=46.77,48.59"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody remembers Joe McCarthy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=48.59,50.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and waving pieces of paper and saying,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=50.08,50.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know these are lists of communists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=50.93,53.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, in the press","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=53.65,54.483"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said that McCarthy write the piece of paper today","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=54.483,55.371"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"saying these are the communist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=55.371,56.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's certain built in limits to our system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=56.85,59.06"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, not many people said what is really 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right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=64.12,66.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other words, that I quote Joe McCarthy, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=66.46,68.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698/transcript/22662/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, he said 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And initially I was very disappointed, but then I decided it's a pretty good answer. You know, if he thinks he can talk to God, more power to him. He has my respect forever. Okay, let's do some questions. As long as you want, as many as you want. If somebody has something to say... Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a lot of it and it's not even a poor job. I wouldn't even say a poor job. I would just say an average job. I mean, it's just the job that gets done. The press is there, the president says something and they report it. Everybody remembers Joe McCarthy and waving pieces of paper and saying, you know these are lists of communists. You know, in the press said that McCarthy write the piece of paper today saying these are the communist. There's certain built in limits to our system. You know, not many people said what is really being... Not many people care about taking it beyond just being sure they get, they get the quote right. In other words, that I quote Joe McCarthy, right? Yes, he said it or is what they said true? That next step doesn't get done very often in the press business. And when you're working out of the White House, it's very hard to do more. Yes. The problem is Reagan's got, you know, I guess in television you'd call him a good Q rating, you know. Everybody, he's got a tremendous rapport with the American people. And by the way, in a lot of ways he's very straight about what he's doing. You know, it's hard to accept it. He's perfectly willing to let everybody starve. And so his fat cat friends can be rich and he tells you that. And we don't want to listen to him. He really thinks it's important to increase defense spending this much, because I don't know why. Because I guess it's just the way everybody of his generation, his political leaning thinks. My problem is that I don't think he's such a nice guy. I think he's probably been bagging for a bunch of conservative, wealthy Republicans, or a super Republicans in Southern California. I think they made him a lot of money. I think they've helped them out with investments. I think he's beholden to them in some sort of way. I don't think illegally. I think, you know, getting advice from a friend, but I think he's, he's tied to a number of people. He said in Philadelphia a couple months ago he wants to end taxes on corporations. And I think that's really a true honest statement. So I think he's basically, for the working class man, I think he's a son of a bitch. And that he's not perceived that way. Well, it's just very hard to do it with the guy. You know, you're in the White House and you're covering it. And you're basically, you know one of the things that happened to me... I'll tell you a story that turned my life around. It was '66, I'm an AP kid. And AP is by the way, pretty responsible, serious service. And so as UPI, you know, they really, the idea is not to twist the news. And I really cut my, you know, IT time. I spent four years at the AP and you really learn, you learn you have, I learned you could have a right to have an opinion. I could hate the Vietnam War, but I still would cover it. I would still go see Robert McNamara and be told the stories, right? I would say what he said. You know, as a professional journalist, even though I disagree with it, that's a separate issue. But one day McNamara came in and one of his minions came in, and he didn't do this, one of his guys, his press guy came into the press office and got me. I was in working for the AP, which is important. UPI and New York Times and Washington Post. And got us up to his office for a drink. And with those four people, you really hit the, you know, you cover all the media, because AP and UPI relied upon by all the radio and television stations too. It's a tremendous amount of influence. And we had our scotch and he told us about this great battle we'd won in a place called Los Shaw Valley. This must be '65, early '66. Great victory for the American boys. And I had went down there and I'm telling you just like anybody from tasks. I said earlier, Tanjug, which is the Yugoslavian news service. That's the right pronunciation of the Chinese news service. The Cuban news service, whatever it is. I went down there and I just met and McNamara said, \"Gee, now I've got a problem with this.\" We can't say McNamara said this. And we don't even wanna say defense officials. Let's just say government officials. So I, whatever, any source they want, I just won't... We won this great battle. Yappidy, yap, yap. But I wrote this story and it's page one in the next afternoons Washington Star or whatever paper in Washington. And I knew this guy, this Navy captain, who was soon to be an Admiral named Mark Hill. Doesn't matter, he's retired now. Mark is an incredibly interesting guy. I talked about him earlier also. He was really to the right of Hitler and social values, but he had incredible personal integrity. I'd bet him because he was in charge. He was a Navy guy, went to Annapolis. He was out of a very wealthy, horse farm horsey family in Southern Virginia, very conservative. What the sort, if there's any cliche about a Navy officer, he's it you know, very patrician, very bright, got a PhD at Harvard. The Navy does a wonderful job in training. And you know, by the way let me say this, for all my dislike for the war, it doesn't, the military has... I have to say this again and again, the military has a lot of wonderful people in it. A lot of more idealism than you can begin to imagine. I've made a living off conservative military people who was so frustrated. They would come to me, all my stories came from not the left, the left can't do it. It's the people in the government. Anyway, people who frustrated would try and do something even in the CIA, good people would come to me. Anyway, yeah. Mark was in charge of pilot retention in the Navy. When they were having a big problem in '65, '66, guys simply stopped flying. They weren't going to take a big jet at supersonic speeds to knock out a wooden bridge. And Mark knew a lot about the war. He also been skipper of an American aircraft carrier. He was a pilot. He'd done everything. It's called getting a ticket punch. He was on his way to be, you know chief of Naval operations, the highest rank, maybe not but he was certainly going to be in the running. And I'd done some stories with Mark on the problems they were having with pilots for the AP, just, you know, nice straight pieces, no problems with them. You know, not political pieces, just factual stories. And I bumped into him a few times in the cafeteria, we talked football. He seemed to be a pretty... I knew he was very locked in. He was an aid to McNamara. Anyway, I say all this because the day after the day that story appeared in the Washington Star, which is the afternoon newspaper, Mark came into the newsroom and he went like this. He never looked me up before. And I walked outside and he said, \"Let's take a walk.\" And we started walking around, it's something like 17 miles a quarter in the Pentagon. He said, \"Where did you get that stuff in the paper?\" I said, \"What about?\" He said, \"He had drawn.\" I said, \"What do you mean?\" He said, \"Well, where did you get it?\" I said, \"Well, off the record briefing.\" He said, \"What?\" I said, \"Yeah.\" I told him about it. He didn't say anything for a moment. Then he said, \"Look, I'm going to tell you something.\" He said, \"I don't like to tell stories at a school. \"And you write this, you know, \"I know you won't if I asked you not to.\" I said, \"Of course.\" He said, \"Okay, this stays between me and you. \"We took a tremendous blood bath in airdrop. \"There was a terrible disaster.\" He said, \"A company went in on patrol \"and went into a valley, three-sided valley. \"A company, 200, 180 fighting men. \"And they got ambushed. \"And the battalion or brigade, \"it was a brigade commander, a one-star general \"sent another company in after it. \"And then another one. \"With three companies eventually in one by one \"into the same trap. \"We lost 640, 660 men, 146 dead over, over 400 wounded. \"We finally had a, you know, \"we finally, we replaced the man on the spot \"and we've promoted him \"from a one star to a two star general \"and put them in charge of supply.\" He said, \"We're gonna, we don't cheat, \"we're going to fan the deaths out \"and the casualties out over the next week. \"And we're going to claim a victory.\" He said, \"That's obviously what's been decided.\" He said, \"Okay, that's part of the game.\" He said, \"I just don't wanna see you get caught up in it.\" He said, \"You better understand what's going on here.\" Wow, scared the hell out of me. That's how I became a great critic of the war. And that's how the great lesson. And, you know... We don't have enough of that. I was lucky. I didn't write a story about it, but it certainly changed my attitude. And I don't know if that kind of thing would happen today, if it could happen today, I just don't know. And it certainly didn't make any difference in the long run, in the short run to my reporting I just was a little more skeptical. I don't think, you know, people say, what can one story do? Well, it can't do much, Mỹ Lai. Does anybody really think the Mỹ Lai massacre ended the war sooner? The war didn't end until the North Vietnamese beat the crap out of us in Saigon and took it over in '75. I don't give myself the luxury of thinking my story may... Yes, I'd to think maybe ended at 20 minutes, 20 minutes sooner and one guy got a bullet in the arm less, but I doubt it. It changed some attitudes, but the fact is that Nixon and Kissinger stuck it out a lot harder than people think. We pulled out the Americans, we declared peace in '73, but we kept the war going. So, we're really limited. These guys, in the face of the most heated protest against the war, declared peace and kept the war going. It was never I'm writing about this. There never was in private an attempt, any belief that the war would end in '73, when we pulled out. There was no planning from the moment they began the piece of contact discussions. They knew that eventually our boys would get out, our prisoners would get back and the war would continue. The only people who didn't know that were us. The other side certainly knew it. So, the power of these guys to declare war over. Wow, it's over. Or to declare a defeat of victory. Wow, it happens. It's immense. And we really have a problem. We have a problem because for some ineluctable reason, our leadership doesn't match up people. I don't know why. And I was in Hanoi. For this book I went back to Vietnam. I went to Hanoi and what is now known as Ho Chi Minh City. Henry Kissinger wouldn't see me, but both the head of North Vietnam later told, and the peace talks and Vin Van II saw me and gave me their papers. And so I had interesting sort of time on it. And in Hanoi, this country we had bombed, strafed, and you know, brutalized for years and received in kind, they weren't wonderful guys. Nobody's suggesting they are. That isn't the issue. In Hanoi people once they initially were called to me because they thought I was a Russian, their ally. Once they heard I was an American I was walking down the street like a celebrity. I have these wonderful photographs of me walking and 500 kids walking backwards. You know looking at me and tugging at me. Why, because somehow, even in this hostile country with which we'd been at war for long, they understand that the American people are generally genuinely decent people. The North Vietnamese told me something, the foreign minister told me something very poignantly. We were drinking some crazy rice liquor one night and he said, \"You know, it's funny \"when we overran the South.\" His name was Nguyen Co Thach. He's now, he was in the deputy foreign minister, he's now the foreign minister and remember this is in '79 or '80, few years ago. He said, \"It's the craziest thing. \"When we took over the South.\" He said, \"We couldn't believe \"what you guys were doing for the South vietnamese. \"Millions of dollars for sewers \"and roads and schools.\" He said, \"Let me tell you about the Russians.\" He said, \"They went in the Cambodia...\" You know, they invaded Cambodia and there was a blood bath. You know defeat... The maniac. And when they went in, there was, they found, as he told me, I wrote a story about it for the Times. I went there with, I was doing my book. I filed for the Times. Three and a half million people near starvation. And at this time the Vietnamese allies were the Russians and they asked the Russians for aid and the Russians immediately air-lifted planeload after planeload of battle dressings, sulfur, and, you know, for wounds. They didn't send them none of that stuff is what they wanted. They wanted food and rice and vitamins, what the Americans would have given us they all said. Said the Russians sent battle dressings, as if that's what we need when you're dealing with starving people. The difference in attitude is simply that we're were very people oriented. It was an amazing thing to have said. You know, what do they want in Vietnam? You know what they want? They want a Chrysler plant and they want a couple of big contracts. They want you to come and take the oil out of there and pay 'em some money. And they want to get some dry goods. They want to get into what we call the rag business, making clothes. Anyway, that was my impression. Let's go on. I'm sorry to give these long soliloquies, but there, you know... That's the price, you know? Yes, sir. Yeah. I think there's a lot to that. We don't have... How about realistic for Syria, sure. We don't really understand the role of the American. We don't really understand how we can be looked at pretty... Not cynically, but with a little bit of essence by a lot of the third world... I'm not talking about in the people. The people that show that, I think we still have a lot of respect for us as a people, but in terms of the way our business operates I don't think most Americans would want to hear that, no. Particularly in the third world, they wouldn't want to hear how people react to our leadership and our businesses and how they view us as sort of rapers. That's very hard for Americans to understand because the average American doesn't feel that way. He's perfectly willing to share his food and his money with poor people. And somehow, I don't know how it gets screwed up. Somehow the leaders don't seem... The leaders that should lead don't get... They're the ones who bail out and retire like Harold Hughes, you know, and the leaders who have this sort of immense desire to push people around are the ones who stay in. I wish somebody could explain it to me. I wish, you know, why did you lose, Culver? You know, for all of his things that were good and bad and everything about him wasn't perfect. He was certainly no madman. He said, you know, you have a much less effective representation. I don't know, to put it mildly, maybe... Yeah, let's do some more. I mean, you know, John Culver to lose to some, you know, it makes me sad, you know, I don't know. Yes, yes ma'am. I could not have printed it, because he had direct access to some of the classified intelligence about what really happened, including the promotion. And if I had printed it there would have been an investigation. And who gave me the information he would have been, he would have had to admit since that's the way he is that he gave it to me and he would have been killed you know, not figuratively. I'll tell you what happened to him. He didn't do well, because of his inability to cope with the bullshit, to be honest. Although he was politically very conservative, he ended up being in charge of all Navy missions in Latin America. He wrote me a letter about this, which I also did not print, because I can, you know, you just do that. That's one of the businesses reasons you do. You make these judgments all the time for all the stories I print, there's an awful lot of stories I don't print off and very much about communications intelligence. Which there's a time during the Vietnam war there was no secrets you couldn't get, because everybody was so disaffected. Now there was no secrets, nothing was secret. So newspapers, you know, under the first amendment, by the way, we have complete total right. There's no legal reason for sure. There's nothing, nothing that can bar me from printing any goddamn thing I want, any time about any secret, as long as my editor, doesn't think it's crazy. There's nothing to bar me from printing and nothing to bar any of us. That's what this country's all about. I mean, the power resides in me and my newspaper. Not in the government. They can consult with us, but it's basically our decision. Anyway, the point is nobody put pressure on me. But my friend went down to be in charge of military missions, Navy missions in Latin America or military missions in Latin America. Since there's so much sea stuff he's the most important person there. He sort of a... He's a two or three star posts. He's done, he's not gonna be a big boss. He's not going to make four star. This is the last assignment or next to the last assignment. He's out of the running in '72, '73. His great promise of '65, '66 hasn't been fulfilled, although he's certainly achieved his senior rank and he's down, he's taking a tour. I wish I could remember this better, but he's taking a tour in Argentina of American installations and there's a lot of secret stuff down there because we do a lot of listening to Soviet submarines in the South Pacific, Latin America, particularly Chile has high mountains coming out of the sea and for also to geological reasons signals, low level signals that bounced around and we can pick them up easily. So there's a lot of secret bases there. National security agency basis. Big deal, they don't bother me. I mean, there's no story in them. And my friends seeing I'm being taken on a tour and the Air Force is in charge of this space and it's a four-story building, they go through in a third floor you hear some thumping above them. And he says, in essence I haven't thought about this during a long time. But he says, in essence, \"What's going on up there?\" \"Oh, it's okay, General or Admiral.\" One of the military and air force guys say to him. He said, \"Why, what do, what is it?\" He said, \"Well, we don't use it. \"We lease that space to the Argentine military police. \"And that's where they do some of their interrogations. \"And they get pretty rough there.\" He went bananas and listen to his reasoning. I love him for this. \"I couldn't give a goddamn \"whether the Argentina's tear arms off people, \"torture them, pull out their teeth. \"I don't care, but they're not doing it on my basis. \"They're not going to do it on American property.\" He says, \"I want those guys out of here.\" Everybody says, \"Don't make a fuss about this Mark. \"You know, everybody know you're biting off too much.\" He said, \"I'm not tolerating this stuff on American basis. \"They can do what they want.\" And within three days he was told he was going to have to get out of there and he did. In other words, that was the quickest fight he ever lost. He retired, still active in Navy matters. It's an amazing story. You know, you just, you know, you're not gonna interfere with sovereignty, sovereign rights of the Argentines to pull fingernails out of people. Yeah, amazing story. Anyway, you get to learn all these things. I don't know what it means. He probably did it wrong. He might've been able to accomplish a lot more if you hadn't gotten mad and been such a boy scout about it, but he was, he wanted a confrontation, but I know where he's coming from. That's what he did. Anyway, the answer is that we make a lot of judgments. In this case, it was a very clear judgment that... Do you think it would have made any difference? You wanna know something about Mỹ Lai? The day Mỹ Lai took place was March 16th, 1968. Anywhere from 300 to 550 people were killed by this American company that went into Mỹ Lai and the army began a big investigation, largely because of my stories, right, in '69. They convened a panel led by a general name Ray Peers, a very fine man who did not go to West Point. Which meant that he's out of the club, which is good. Peers begins an investigation and a company called Charlie. They're looking one day in one little area of the war and Charlie company goes in the Mỹ Lai floor and kills everybody. Meanwhile, there's two other companies involved in the operation. One was operating about six miles away in a place called Mỹ Ky. And so just sort of hell of it to be precise and careful they start interrogating people about Mỹ Ky. And they discovered that on that day they killed anywhere from 100 to 120 civilians, they lined them up and shot them too. With this, General Peers just said forget this, broke down, just didn't wanna get into that. It just no more of getting into ancillary other operations that day. What's the implication? Obviously, that you can pick almost any day, any operation in Vietnam and find an awful lot of blood being shed. You know, it was too much for that general. Who's a good man, by the way. So, you know, if Mỹ Lai had not been done, I don't know, I don't think anything much would have happened differently, I really don't. Let's do a couple more. We'll let you go home. Yes, sir. Have had direct control over that country after World War II. The war was fought there. The Russians always have had a terrible paranoia about countries on their border. They'd been involved in Hot War. That doesn't make it any more justifiable, but you can understand a little bit where they're coming from. They always move in their border countries. I mean that's just a given. They're going to move in Afghanistan, if they see a border threat, They're gonna move on Russia. They're gonna move in Czechoslovakia. It's probably desultory. It's a lot different than moving somewhere else. I would guess that the same thinking maybe took place in America. We don't want any Soviet, or what we saw as Soviet influence in Central America. But you know, does one justify the other, is that the question? Is there any connection? I don't think so. I mean I think the Soviet can do all they want. I couldn't care less. You know, I don't think that's relevant the way we operate. You know, I'd like to think that we have a lot better standards when it comes to civil rights and human rights. We may not, and you know, individual freedom in the Soviets. So to even get into sort of a compare, I'm not worried about... Let me tell you something about the Russians. They run scared. They're in no way... I think nearly as threatening to us as we seem to be to them. I really think so. They really do run scared. They had 20 million people killed in their country and that's a terrific psychological scar. You can't begin to, you know, you're just hearing stuff in the papers about the Holocaust. Last week has been some sort of national tribunal. You can understand where Israel with all of the awful policies they're having the last year. And in the last year we did learn a lot that isn't very wonderful about Israel. That's really been very tough to take but you can understand, you know, nobody wants to go, you can understand where they're coming from. I don't think, I don't think it's wise to get into. My own belief is I don't like to judge anybody else by a different, you know, I think the Russians behaving poorly doesn't give us the right to is in an essence that's what I'm saying and... Yes, yes sir. I have somebody, yeah. Well there's no... You mean the way we're doing it? That's sort of half sort of a secret covert stuff? Well, what are you gonna do if you go in? You're going to go in, you're going to go in the middle of a guerrilla war and a civil war in three or four countries that is going to be fought in the jungles that you're never going to have much say, that you're going to have to escalate immediately. And terribly, that will be... The only thing you can say is let's just not consider Vietnam on aberration. Let's say Vietnam is the model we have to use for what happens when we get into a country like this. A guerrilla war, one we lose, okay? Two, have this tremendous social discontent and this this affection in this country that really is a very high price. And thirdly, one of the things you've learned about Vietnam, the great rationale for Vietnam was we were going to beat the Chinese, remember? The Chinese were very powerful. We had to stop China. And then within four years after the war is over Vietnam and the Chinese are fighting. So a lot of the things we think are assumptions we have aren't necessarily right. I think it's a perfect case we're staying out of. Or go in big. Where we're going, it's very foolish right now but going in secretly and with, I think... Let me tell you something if you just think it's a few CIA guys and if you let me do it... First of all, let me tell you a couple of facts that I can't prove, but I know off sense. I haven't been a reporter... First of all, the army is there in a big way covertly, defense department rather, because you have all the legal restrictions on the CIA. The Reagan administration has gotten the Pentagon involved in covert operations in a way they have not been before. Since I think the raid in Iran. Which maybe, you know, which is within his right. I'm not sure how much Congress knows about it. Certainly the public doesn't know about it. Secondly, you've got American corporations involved in flying missions again, like Air America. If not Air America, that kind of Rockwell International. You've got some of the big corporations flying missions. So we have a much bigger involvement than we even know as of now. Okay. Agreed? Goodbye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36603/file/105698#t=0.0,1449.50857"}]}]}]}