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Ed would you please start.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35394/file/104430#t=9.87,14.58"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35394/file/104430/transcript/21825/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just talking about where you were born and raised","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35394/file/104430#t=14.91,17.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35394/file/104430/transcript/21825/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"educated. I. 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We're at Iowa State University to record the oral history of Professor Ed Young. Ed would you please start. Just talking about where you were born and raised educated. I. Was born and raised in Hong Kong British colony. So I went through the British type of schooling and. I guess when I was about in the equivalent of eighth grade here I discovered that there was a book in my grandfather's library about chemistry. So. I didn't know what it was but it seems like it generates a lot of colors and crystals and so forth. So I went to the shops local shops and bought some and started some home chemistry experiments was fun. So that's when I first decided I was going to like chemistry. But the real. Stimulation actually is the. Equivalent high school teacher. But but. But we stopped at a ninth grade. I guess here to ninth grade school. So buddy she was an excellent teacher the best in the school and and so that. Or whatever she did that made it even more interesting. So I decided I should be studying chemistry. But in Hong Kong you know the best students. Always go into medicine. Because it's like a guarantee job and guaranteed good. Living and lifestyle and whatever and all that all the good students in science if you're any good Your parents will. Have your code of medicine. So I want to go to medicine too because that's. Regarded as a reputable. Profession. And I'm good at chemistry so I see fit. So. When. I went to the new ad near the end of high school. What happened this that the. British system. That's why I mentioned the British system the British system starts medical school right after high school. So your bachelor's degree is taught in the medical school. Now. And you get. The kind of science and. To only those subjects which are relevant. To. Medicine. You of course you have some elementary physics and so nothing in depth. And also you don't have anything. It's all basically medical careers. Is this a longer. Schooling like. It's actually eight year associate equivalent to the number of years it would take here. But this all science including the bachelor's degree. So I didn't want to do that. I felt I want to. I'm more interested in other things as well so. So that's why I decided to. Look elsewhere and found that in British education. But in the US they have these things that's called liberal arts education. So I decided that I need a liberal arts degree really. Before going to medical school and seems like that if you do well in chemistry liberal arts school you will. Be readily accepted into medical schools. So that would be just fine out to a few years of chemistry as well. So that's why I came over to United States for after high school to change the kind of schooling I would get. So I said I went to Cornell. Upstate New York. As opposed to Cornell which I know very well also. And a true liberal arts because the Ivy League type depressed I'm in the College of Arts and Letters and whatever they call at that time I still have this premed career in mind but they don't have a premium major unlike some of the schools now. It's basically true chemistry major. Did very well in the chemistry courses and so forth. And. Of course I would try hard to prime myself to fit this career. What medical schools may be looking for. Also what I'm interested in so I I took some psychology courses which. Including. Child Development and I think most kinds of psychology courses took some philosophy courses because that's the liberal arts tradition. And so I got my well-rounded liberal arts education and. To. Make myself more. A better candidate for medical school. I did some research and this is the early days of the NSF summer student program. And Cornell is one of those. So I went around and. Talked to Professor just like you at now and see what I one would be interested in. And including road Hoffman. Of course he has not won the Nobel prize yet in that time. I didn't I wouldn't know the difference because he was just too too theoretical for me. But. I was in Rhode Hoffman's office and. I told him This is my plan I'm going to go to medical school I'm going. To fill my interest but by studying some chemistry doing some chemistry. And he said he was he too was a chemistry major before. I mean a premed before. Sorry. Oh they find you in your chemistry. And so he told me I should consider making chemistry a career so that that's his influence. I I I didn't realize how what a big gun he was at that time. Of course of course I know what would happen rule from organic chemistry and all that. So when I did not pick his group I I picked a group that's actually working in organic chemistry. Just because a topic sounds interesting is on photo chemistry of small molecules and. There's always an interest in lighting the color part came in. In high school day. So all or brings together. In that summer program. Did did very well. And eventually we published. So my first paper was published in organic chemistry but. Most interesting that summer was that we have weekly meetings. Just like group meetings but this is the. Or the 15 or so NSF summer chemistry. Students which which is of course the top students in chemistry. Class anyway. And one day. Peter Dubai came in and. Chat with us just for an hour. That was very impressive. We know Nobel Prize. And you know he. And he was very very down to earth very friendly person didn't mind talking to undergraduates. And so there was a very interesting and also probably steered me a little bit more to us chemistry. By. I. So by the time I entered my senior year in. College. I have this. Dual view of things I should be a chemistry I should be a chemist professionally or go into medicine. Then I actually because I continued to senior research in the same group of. More and more I find out how interesting it is to sort of discover new things and maybe for a moment at least you are the first person to see this little thing. And no one else know about it. So so anyway that's that. So that's the exciting part of our research side is that I need to do some research. So. How to. Solve mesh in with medical school. Well there's a program called MVP program where you do research and seven years is a bit longer for us but you get two degrees and you're doing research. So I applied to those programs exclusively back in Hong Kong no notice in the United States only they only have this only us this atmosphere. So the medical schools that I applied to are selected because they have an issue programs. They also of course they're also good medical schools otherwise they wouldn't be in this particular program because I think the NIH provides these funding in those days. So. It turns out that all these schools have a two step process first. You get accepted in medical school. And then. You. Get accepted into the MVP program. So. Mentor is a normal medical school and cat and interviews was did very well and got accepted into most of the schools the. Universities that I applied for for medical school and then. I. Haven't heard for a while what. Is happening the MVP program. Meanwhile because I was in this group. And the professor I guess he saw that I had some potential for potential. So I asked me to you should apply to some. Chemistry graduate schools as well. I wasn't very serious. So I applied to two of them and just to just to go through the motions and so forth. Meanwhile the Graduate School came through Berkeley. Number one. And also in our research group there in Cornell there was students who are graduate students which just. Now I think is a post start which just finishes. 50 degree from Berkeley and keeps urging me to go to. You should go to Berkeley because it's such a great place. Got it a. Lot of good professors facilities and so forth. So. Meanwhile took a long time for a full empty 50 programs to decide. And then. I got feedback that I'm in the running. And then I go for another interview. This is at NYU. For a follow up. Interview with a person who runs. The program. Then I found out which is kind of strange that these fellowships are only only for U.S. citizens. Because it is a national. Scholarship so I'm not eligible for any of this. Oh. So I don't want to go to medical school just to go back to school even though I medical school acceptances. So I said I should go to. Go to chemistry. Oh good for chemistry. But anyway so that's when I went to grad school in Berkeley. And oh no it's no regrets. I was really tired and I was going to slug was going more towards chemistry at that time anyway. I know I I. I can do well and I certainly have some things that I like to do. Which may be going to medical school B. So studying for a long time and maybe memorizing a lot of things. Anyway. And also this particular person. Told me that there's a. Hot young professor who just got tenure. And that's Bradley more student of mental health. And I should go and talk to him. So I. When I moved to Berkeley. Say. Was interviewed professors and I talk to more BRADLEY MOORE And I also talked to pimento because he is the most famous. Photo chemistry type world physical chemistry. Site. In. Human terms Holloway's project and with a nice project but it's sort of like. Developing something that. Some. Someone else has started on. Of course it's a totally new direction but it's not like in the field that he had been thinking for a while. And. So he. Wants someone to pick it. Up. And want to read more and he has he has a project. That has. Been given to a grad student but that student was drafted. So he hasn't done anything like that project. So it's brand new. It's. He thought about it. A little bit at least for a year or so already with no one doing it. So it's enough in for the chemistry. And so it fits me just fine and I wanted to do something that's. Different. I guess I just want to explore things. You would not be. That was speed in 1960 68. Yeah. I do. Yeah. So. I think he says that if that. Is true in return you give this project back to the student or something like that. But I was I was going to do it anyway. It's something that. As I said discovery and I seem to see something that has not been seen before. It. Turns out that the other student in. The project that Intel gave to me was picked up by another student. We don't very well know each other just because we we are. Not just entering class but actually we have similar interests in physical. Chemistry and life story shows. He's now a one of those. Professor Doctor in in Max Planck. So yeah he did very very well. Anyway so. So. So what worked in that group and. In fact. The ideal because that's not been tried before. We don't even have a. I don't have every equipment we try. So I actually went to another chemistry professor borrow their laser that was an early databases. You don't buy a big laser just under blue you they happen to have some laser that we can use. So I went there and did some initial experiments and. It showed that it's feasible. Then. More than got the money and. But our own Lisa. But it was still shoestring. He was just tenured. When I got there. So still not the big group. And well funded but the physical chemistry is never that well has well funded the organic groups anyway. But anyway. So I lot some of things. It was good because I have to. Make something that needs to modify your equipment and build things and so forth because it's just not all. That time. So in fact we have to go over the physics department. And borrow their frequency doubling Krista which you can buy now off the street and do a two hour on laser manipulation. So off from law borrow things we we made very very good progress. So. When time. Comes to look for a job it's up to three or three years. We both agreed to that. I'm so ready to go and do something. And so here years no. After three years I'll be looking for something. So anticipation of graduating in four years. Oh OK. Still that's very fast. I did graduate in three years from Cornell. Oh really. Without taking summer school. That's because that's the level of. Education. Training. You might call in Hong Kong is much higher. So I placed out of the first year courses. Oh. In fact when I went to talk to the. Physics. Professor I got five and AP The highest an AP score in physics and whether physically fancy can I. Take you know quantum mechanics instead of the first year physics which I already had I had a textbook and so forth. And he said no you cannot do that. You have to start from the beginning. But I wasn't I didn't take no for an answer. So I made him a deal is this physics chair pretty well-known professor. I said Well how are you. Let me try to to take this other cross which is an experiment of your chemistry physics course. And if I have to this semester if I do well then I. And I get placed out of it. So like probationary placing out. So that's what we did. So I actually did. Do very well in that course and he had nothing to say so I got placed out of. I just didn't want to be you know repeating things. But anyway. So that's that's why when I came when I graduate it was this relatively young h h wise. But. When it comes to. Finding a job then I didn't know what what to do. And finding a job. So there are professors whom I've met at some conferences and so forth. They knew about our work which is very exciting at that time. And so a community would you like to do a pro start. I said wow I didn't even apply and people ask me to do a poster. So I. So I. Told my wife a nice offer for a postdoc should I take and I said No no you should. You should you should wait. So he arranged separately. I guess you know it's just like we do a week we talk to our friends at other universities you know who are. Good people coming up and maybe they should begin. They can do a post target whatever. So so you arrange a. Postdoc for me at Harvard with Bill Klemperer. And. A. Very prominent physical chemist. And he came in which had this very nice down to earth person. So I was all ready to go to Harvard to do it. To do a postdoc. And then. Well. And then it was 1972. It turns out to be a very very. Bad year for looking for faculty positions. If you look at I understood from another person at who was a postdoc in another group that there weren't that many. Announcements of positions you see in your news so limited number of positions so so. So Fred and I decided I might as I start applying you don't know what a job market is to look like. In a year or so maybe you would get worse. So. So I applied and. Had to apply and. One day came down with a letter from Iowa State and. Then it's not addressed to him but addressed to a department. Asking for people to apply for this analytical chemistry position. I. Don't even maybe not necessarily understand what any chemist chemistry is except for the energy food and your chemistry courses. But there there was some association because it turns out that. The courses. That I taught at Berkeley and physical chemistry courses because they put the top students in the SEC the sophomore level courses as teachers. And as freshmen so the sophomore level Andy at that time traditionally and Paul and quant analysis so I taught those courses. So there was no problem on my resumé showing that I can teach analytical chemistry. And the professor who Matthew for was first rate my. Teaching ability anyway. So so. But. Well what. When. When I thought about what chemistry is then to me is just basically measurement of different types. And then. Lasers are just coming on the scene and becoming more available. So I wrote a proposal that using lasers for chemistry for up to revitalize optical methods for. For. Measurement. And so that got good reviews here. Bonus to that. Yeah. So was this. This was before you went to Harvard. For the Post ever Clinton before. Yeah. Okay. So this is the fourth year. During my fourth I last year at Berkeley. And so apparently this is hearsay now. Apparently Velma Fassel who actually calls himself the physical chemist for a long time even though he made such a great contribution in chemistry so here no problems. He understands optical spectroscopy and has heard about one of two things about lasers being on the scene so he was quite excited. Dennis Johnson was open minded and he was in charge of the search and. He he liked what I'm proposing very much and. I say what I heard was that they went to Harvey diesel went out of town to have me coming for an interview. So I did not see Harvey do you have anything to say. This is not good chemistry in the file. And then so when I came here I was actually talking to people like Vince Carter and Jerry small who optical spectroscopy they certainly understand what I was talking about and and like what I. Proposed and so on they would like what I didn't. So I got the job. And so only after I got the job that I met Harvey deal. It was very gentlemanly it in the end any graduation. He was actually on the way from moving from California to here for the job. He invited us to. To stop by. The. Rocky Mountain. Area where Estes Park is where he has a summer house there. So we went we stayed there for two nights and before we came out here. But. Of course having a job offer that I had to decide was I should. Go to. Harvard. To post up for two years. And then. On and then come here OK. But. But in the end the job offer much. Which was. JOHN CORBETT At the time. It actually says you have Ames and have support and you started with. Two students. I met you before it was basically a block grant and a program director decides where to divide up. And cross spectroscopy is spreading understands it and so forth and so with that support and a good start up fund why do I have to wait a year. So that's why I accepted the job here and I took Klemperer and temporal understands. Of course you should have a job. You should just take it. And at that time. I would state was ranked 15th on the. Graduate. Directory. So very exciting place and I said I look at the other positions at the other schools. They are all right in fact ranked lower. I mean unless you. Aspire to go to some. Place at Harvard or Berkeley or something like that. But. Anyway it was a really very. Very very good job for me. So I took it and people. People here for example in those times that I don't actually talk to and understand something. About. My what I'm saying. Although Chapman does photo. Photochemical. Thinks so so. So we had good talking and so it seems like and I feel very very well. I saw the Ames Laboratory was in fact a. A good a draw for me without that sort of. I didn't. Because I. I haven't realized what funding is and so far I know you're right proposals and I'm in those states are still fairly easy for good ideas to be funded. But still having a sort of a guarantee support of a certain number of graduate students is very good and I can get started right away without having to worry about anything. So. So that's how I started here and started here. Teach a little chemistry was. Was no problem. That's all I taught at Berkeley. And how did you. Realize that so eventually. He. Became king. He accepts the fact that I was high behind his back maybe. And then a year later I think at that time also Jim Fritz was not here. I don't know whether Jim actually was. They didn't they I don't think they avoided you. But just haven't Jim was not here when I interview. So it just happened that there's something called Midwest professors so weekend that we exchange ideas so I went up to Minneapolis and shared a room with Jim and we had a good talk about what what I what I do and what he understands and and. And. So there was no there was no problem except that I understood that the LDS again here say a 30 year review halfway through your. Hair. There has there maybe one or more objections of continuing in my country I have the three years because I wasn't doing it chemistry. But anyway that's I didn't mind that meeting. Chairman told me that I don't care I just do what I. Do I. What I'm. Interested in of course now know people use faces and it comes through all the time. But. In the beginning I do I do some physical chemistry also I collaborate with Jerry small smile with joy and it's a proposal due to photos spectroscopy some I postdocs are did more theoretical fiscal that's not true theory but. Modelling type of physical chemistry research but my experiments are in the liberal chemistry. And one of the reasons is I was they gets. So such good students you know and it will chemistry. And they asked to join my group and I saw that it's a waste if I turned them away. And since its measurements anyway so. I told them what the project is about. And they're willing to to try those areas. So that's why. Gradually my publication tended more towards chemistry because that's what the students produce more analytical projects. Okay. But. Because we start early in leases basis in chemistry that sort of made a. Name for me in the outside world and so I get invited to these places in person and I'll come to we just saw like a forefront. So. So. I get much more support in fact on the outside and inside the site and you go chemists are concerned. And you had the strength to let you know how to build a laser. Yeah. I was good. Yeah. Yeah. That. Was. Certainly extreme. I sent some designs here in Ames that machine shop before I arrived. So this is what I need. And. At that time healthiness was a. Machinist. Names. So he and I worked well. He took my drawings and he built what what was my first. Special kind of laser. So anyway so as more as better students came in I gave them. They wanted to elevate chemistry gave chemistry projects and even my physical chemistry students. Got chops and had a good chemistry. Because of the Association. People on the outside see that I'm on their side. So that's. And then I get more and more involved in the Internet. And. There was an opportunity to. To. Write. On. The. The. It was basically still basic handed sciences. But they actually started something. Lisa. Workshop annually. For physical and. Well whoever is dealing with Lisa's attorney. No deal yet. Oh I see. Instead of contractors workshop for your particular. Group the day Lisa so Lisa workshop. So it's rotated in different national labs annually. Ames actually hosted one of these. Then the father was tapping into that area too. And so I applied for. A. Different type of experiment. A program with this within this Lisa emphasis and got funded. So that's why it's that time my research budget doubled. So it was carrying two two projects so that that means at that time I don't need to worry about funding. Sufficient. Grade. How how. How far along are you. There was a. Third year. Oh. Yeah. Fairly early. So I was I was not. Worried about. Her tenure and. No tenure. Yeah. Sounds like. And also at that time there was no. I mean. I mean I asked offsite funding but it's not like today if you don't get a career one doesn't get tenure or something like that. Anyway it was much easier. For it to start out if you have good ideas. Much easier starting back in those days. What else do you remember about the department from the earliest times. What were the controversial issues. Well it's more. More personalities and there are fewer in faculty meetings. There are some people who seems to be fighting other people just to be on the other side so not necessarily rational. But but they're still on the whole it's not like. Nobody really. Knows nobody. I mean they they. Disagree. Maybe they. Speak out of turn. They kind of disagree but I don't see people actually shouting at each other. There seems to be. Some respect. For each other because they are. No. They. Oh well respected campus on their own right. So. So. You may not want. Somebody wanting more more traditional someone to change and it always happens by. In general I still find that in those days the panel was very congenial. Oh. Right. Yeah. Even you understand this. I mean they are going to be differences of opinion. But yeah but they all seem to work well and. I guess at those times we also have know a little bit more about each other. We. We have a lunch room. Which is. Cherished moths old office. The lunch. It's. Everyone goes there for lunch. Well not everyone but this same group of people go for lunch. Mostly the younger people. But. Even Glenn and so forth to come that there's no separate organic lunch or you know get lunch. But at this lunch room several couches there and we we. All take our sack lunch there. And. Later on we started. To play ping pong after lunch. And ping pong was in there. There's a cellar area and the old physics building that has a ping pong table it's basically very tight and very dark but. We play for half an hour. So a group of us. So we we know each other socially much better not now it seems like people don't have time for. More interaction. And in those lunch rooms we we talk a little bit about. Chemistry we don't have presentations like this you know getting lunches nowadays. But so. So it's it's worthwhile. And how many people would gather there for. Six or seven. We're just not that. Did. Did. The faculty socialize with each other outside of that so that they they are bridge groups. Because Bridge is a I guess more traditional type of socialization among. Faculty. So they're there to say Oh the bridge group I guess the Hansen's Russ. Russell's Corbett and. And so forth in there. Martin on that. And then there's a younger bridge group. Which I guess started with Vince Calder and. And joined cloudy and Tom pardon and so on and we came in later we came in. Maybe. Two or three years after that. And at that time we had we have Becky as a baby. Now and we were still bring her there in a small. Carry. Carrier. And. She's lived through it. And so we tried to. Do that but that there are no there are no real. Picnics or anything like that. Not much socialization with the students except within each research group they have their own activities. Department wise. Well. Not much just that basically rich and the. Lunchroom. You've covered a lot of ground. Already at. Did did other faculty kind of press you to. Do analytical chemistry or. No aside from that incident that you just mentioned. No. No. No there wasn't. Because I know that people. And illegal chemists. Academic chemists outside are we also starting to do this so I feel it is a true trend. It's not because it's so. So I'm not too concerned because other people well known people think this is mainstream. It's just that some of the traditional. People are still falling behind if you will. What achievements made you most proud of. During the halls. Of. State. What achievements. Sometimes we did. That. For a long time. I thought that. If I. Sort of have a. Very. Interesting. Deep. Question. Chemical question. That I answered. That it would be a great achievement. But actually turns out that it's really not. No. I after all these years I have to conclude the biggest achievement. That I have made is really something fairly trivial. And that's something that we did for the Human Genome Project. In fact there's a very interesting history. But why would a person in fiscal and whole chemistry go into biology. And that's. Because I became program director after Delmar Faso. Retired. When was that. It was 83 or so. It is a gradual transition. But I also became program director for. That. And. As foreign doctors you have to go to these meetings to be sick. In the otherwise be wreck about environmental research. So that's biological research which I. Maybe it brings back the medical school type of thinking but this is basic. I didn't take many biology courses and I didn't do any biological research. After that time but sitting in there in the audience it was the beginning of people and deal you talking about human genome project the human genome project was initiated in deal years not initiated by NIH and very few people outside really understood or appreciated them and actually was given all the credit because they put in the most amount of money. And of course. Gene seems to be biology not. The. A deal yes interesting in. Genomes because they have a whole. Library of records on low dose radiation. Study from atomic energy. What what. See how this influence human health. Therefore these dog experiments human records and so forth and to and most of these is basically mutations. The radiation effect. So they want to. So one of the previous associate artists has proposed. With with some of the other scientists that we should seek to see what the human genome then you see what changes have caused this. That. Was laughed at laughed down by people at NIH. It's so mundane it's engineering where was the science in all of this. Yeah. It's true it's very hard to convince people that you've spent all that money because at that time it it's it's just calculate it would take 15 years. To sequence the human sequence human genome once. So who is going to. Be able to. Influence the world changed the world if you just sequence one. You have to relate them to disease and so forth. But that was 1985. So I started this meeting and listen to these people I think. Well it's kind of interesting it makes sense and I was watching it 15 years because it's not fast enough. And not cheap enough. Everyone understands that and what they need is new technology. But technology is what we have. It's not coming for a biologist stem by ethical instrumental person's viewpoint. And at that time it's already done by sort of basic set of fluorescence but there are some roadblocks which it cannot be done very fast spot. But. I thought that we must be able to do something. The Human Genome Project. So. So I. So. So I was in the early stages of discussion of the human genome project but most mostly listening to what biologists. Are arguing about. But then. Within a year the. There is a part of you that actually provides funding that site to. Be are by party and by research. But the predecessor that's caused something else. Office of Health and. Energy Research something like that. But that director associate director decided himself that he's gonna put some money in. Because he was one of those people who proposed it. And so how can you find technology. Well all these guys and B must know something about technology and so since I haven't enrolled not not knowing I don't know him personally but since I heard about what the arguments are it came to my mind how to. Do it. From some possible directions to this. So. That was my. Proposal to human genome project was before an age kind of game. And because of our. Performance in the PBS side. And they really are willing to try out brand new ideas because the old ideas are not going to work. So that proposal was not even. Did not require a written proposal. I went down to Forest building where where he sits and. Had an interview onsite interview I just told him I had made up my idea. I'm sure he didn't. Fully understand. What it is but. But the one the product off the below him do my work in leases because of these leases of workshops. And so. No it makes sense and so far so they gave me some funding to try it. So that's inroad into me. Fine. There was where the funding was started in 1987 okay. So it took some time to get that going. And then. I think 1989 when Arnie NH. Understood what the what the issue was and then they start pouring money into it. And at that time since I started to pour money into it we are fortunate enough to try to get an A grant to work on another aspect of the Human Genome Project. And so there's plenty of funding at that time my group was the largest. And. I'm not necessarily proud of having a large group. Some people make it very important that they have a large group. I mean of course there's some something. Say about. 20 students so far. But but they seem to say I have a big empire I don't I don't feel like that. But but. Because of the funding I have to have more postdocs and students so that's why the group expanded so we trying a lot of different things. And. It turns out that it was a very very simple idea that if you one way to speed it up assist to do more at the same time. And that was the basis. Now one of our papers in the pattern. And that pattern. Was actually used in the sequencing machines. It. It was an. It was a very very simple idea. I mean it's not the kind of thing. I mean. People think you know people solve the Fermat's Theorem must have a great mind or something like that. If you do something like humans. What we thought of is something. Fairly trivial. To me is very obvious. But of course it was new to the biologists and it just happened to be the right solution for that problem. So it's not a great deep thinking but happened to be at the right time the right expertise. And there was money to do that. And so I came together. And. Would you mind going into a little more technical detail about what it was. Yeah. Well it's basically people have been sequencing. Genes by separating DNA fragments. That. The larger fragments can come later. The smaller fragments come out first. And by looking at the different fragments which are different. Each is different by one piece and each base is identified by color. So if you look at 10 different segments coming out you will basically be spelling out the DNA sequence by the color. There are only four colors ACTU genes. So they've been doing this as very tedious to do this. And so our research proposal to an agent you use one is to do this separation faster which is ethical chemistry. And seconds to detect these not in one but a multiple. A race. To that one at the same time mass production parallel parallel processing as opposed to just make clusters PCR clusters and so on. So it's not a grand idea but it's a very very useful idea. So we did 96 calories at a time so it is beset by two orders of magnitude. And we also did some research in speeding up the exaggeration too. So. So that I think has the most. Impact. Not necessary impact factor but impact because because. Through the human genome. The first stage of the genome which technically is completed into or three but in the year 2000. Are. Seizing the moment. Clinton or already known of this is Bush. The first Bush 2000 he announced that human genome. Project is complete because we sequence the human genome by area at that time it was only 90 percent sequenced and the other 10 percent is a difficult part we have like that. So you get to 0 3 that is truly completed. But anyway. Our technology was critical in that extension both I guess say in 1997 through two or three that was whether technology was a must. And so there are. Lots of these machines out there and without that. The. Success of the human genome project would not have been so so quick. It will be done somehow maybe some by some other technique like company license Japan. Well. The license is because I was state. Was not a. Place like Berkeley was familiar with how to license things and make money. They were at that time happy that anything gets license not necessarily. Not necessarily. With with a good spreadsheet showing potential and so forth. So they licenses to a very very small company in State College Pennsylvania. The guy the CEO is. Doesn't want to put any money. In to develop it. He. Assumed that if he licenses it. It will already work. Right. But it turns out the academic. And the income and commercialization there's a gap that you have to. That's why people license it to further develop. He's not willing to put a money in. And. So it's a long long drawn out affair. And then being in the meantime other techniques are almost catching up. So they didn't make money for a long time but then later on that. That company run into financial. Difficulties trouble. So they actually sold the patent to API which is. The main manufacturer of. Sequencing machines. Maybe I realized that this is what they need. And so then at that time program 99 or 2000 they put it in one of their API machines. And then it was given the proper treatment API developed it and made it into a machine as opposed to. Scotch tape. Type device. And so so everything went went very well for flash up your time. Is it still used. It's still used. But. With but not. Not with the. Not with a frequency. It turns out that if you just want to have some rough sequence there is no new technology that's much cheaper and much faster. But to get the true sequence for large genome this car complete sequencing then you still need that to fill in the gaps. Otherwise you don't. Use. You cannot do the difficult parts. So it's still technology still used but it's not at the at the scale that was used before. People most people who are in genetics are biologists this want to know the short sequence two related if I didn't care about the whole genome. So in that case they are going to us these smaller. Faster methods. So. It was rewarding too. It didn't read recently in the headlines or anything but it is rewarding to see that actually worked. But it's not not I wouldn't say it's kind of like what I was saying is a great idea. It's just the right idea. Also it also of course financially also. Made it a little bit interesting if you think I say then on the scale of commercial commercialization and so forth. So so that. That actually allowed me to. Retire early and then do things that I. Wanted to do as opposed to. To do things that I have to do. So. You. This isn't on the list of questions but you won. To. A follow up on. This topic. You won. Basically every major award available to someone in your field. Yes. Can you say a bit about what. Topics those you think those awards were based on or what. Research. Well then the first award is called ECF divisional award. It's not the. National yet but Division of Animal country it was in chemical instrumentation and it's the highest award in there in that area with division and division is the second largest division within this yes next to organic. So lots of people in there and. That is for basically how I would. Work in using lasers in various ways in animal chemistry. Which. Is my. Career. After that time there was before human genome. 1987. But that's actually the award that I treasure the most. Because after the first of what it seems like people. People. Studied. It is actually to have the first award then everyone start to. Start to pay attention to your work and more and more parts of human accumulate after that is spin set. And I think the point is that everyone that has ever won the Cambridge orientation of what eventually will be in the ACA as to what level chemistry. So it's more like a pre screening and. Having been inside Division. Actually know how history is very very hard to win a division what more than. Maybe not. Well I shouldn't say maybe but but. Two for the division though I love the division what their roles are. There are 12 jury members. And you have to convince eight of them. They miss eight of them have to put you first. Not a simple majority. I guess this is close to supermajority 60 percent and they just keep re voting until Oh well keep revolt in dropping out at the bottom until someone gets a vote. I've also been a yes. What I mean is there are no six to eight people and so forth. And. Nowadays they use some telephone conference and you discuss and then you vote and so forth. I think it's a simple majority by the time you get down to two. So to me it's more difficult than the number of number of members are fewer. So. So. It seems like more difficult but of course there. Is your perspective. But anyway that's. The first of what. And then. The. And then. The. Human genome work was recognized by the chromatography. Yes. I want you chromatography not not the detection part which we. License to commercialize. But the first separation which is something fast approaching which is really the separation side of the genome project. And then the ACARS went in. And a little chemistry the national what. Is. I think. I I think they're following because the instrumentation or what. Of course we've done things in between two. So I think they added to it. But it's not it's more like a. Cumulative achievement so they don't re specify any particular. Item. And then later on there's some other. Awards like the Pittsburgh conference awards and so forth. At that time we we started to do to do some some things in single molecule research. And. And that the single molecule detection and so forth. One of your other was. S. AS WELL. YOU CANNOT WIN THE EASIEST ONE again for single market research. So. That's those are the kind of. Recognition. Impressive. Oh. Okay. What was your philosophy in running your research group. What did you expect from students and postdocs and and what what. Did you think they could expect from you. In return. Well I. Actually. Run it more like what. I have done Berkeley. That means the professors. Pretty much hands off. Maybe it wouldn't work in. Other situations but I would state the animal chemistry students are really very good. And they all have some experience when they come in. I actually have a. Procedure. At least. Not a lot more recently but in mid career I actually worked out a procedure where how students might be trained in my group and they are they all know about it and I tell them when they come in join my group. They when they start out they will be given some. Ideas to try out. These ideas may or may not work out. I told them this may maybe wild ideas you may just do an experiment. And say that this is not possible. But. If it works out then you should develop into a major project and then you can build your thesis on it. If it doesn't work out you would have learned something. How to do certain kinds of experiments how to decide whether something work or not work and then you can go on and. Try something else. In the meantime this is what Ethan will the changes in the meantime. If you want to learn other things you can follow other students around and. Maybe learn some. Techniques which may or may not be. Used in your future work. So that's how we how I started them but they cannot just come and tell me it doesn't work right. They have to. Demonstrate doesn't work which turns out to be fairly difficult. I'm very stubborn too and they must show that the kind of results that that really rules out that possibly have it working as not. Not because. They haven't tried hard enough. And so. We we had reasonable. Reasonable batting average in quite a few of these worked out so that's why they they develop into. Some. New areas for us. And. A lot of these. Students who carry out this philosophy I think get the current training. They can start their own research group later on. And so on. On the other hand. It's not necessary just for training students for academics because of chemistry and a lot of students most of them go to. Go to industry. But they still need to learn how to think. Which is more important than what they actually produce. So I don't. Specify how many papers or. What journal and so forth. Every student. I tell every student that that if you reach a certain level of. Ability in research independent research then you graduate. So some students graduate with one paper. They of course have to have one paper and you cannot have zero. I think you have to do something. And other students have graduate with 10 papers. Students graduate of 10 people. I did it in two years and nine months. In two years and two and two and two three quarters of a year. Was 10 papers. With 10 papers. It was in there. It was in the heat of the Human Genome Project so almost everything you discover is new and important. Wow. He's now the chairman of National Taiwan University. There was another student published nine or something that also in three years. He is exceptionally smart. Student was also in also in the human genome. Period. He did all these modelling and so far the theory behind all this separation. He wants to make a lot of money and I didn't stop him so he's now with some small company in the Bay Area. But he's he's an exceptional student. Now. So. OK. And. And what did what did you think that. People. Would. Expect from you. Well I. Think I always come to them. They will always try to find me. And. I told them the best time to time is during lunch. And chat yes I won't be teaching. I won't be having any meetings. So my lunch hours I always packed just a sandwich and a fruit. And come to DuPont office for a cup of coffee and some sometimes my lunch hour lasts for two hours. Because I'm interrupted. By different people coming in because they are they know when to find me. I'm definitely going to be in my office. Someday. But. I do walk around the lab. Occasionally. I don't require students to be there or. Or you need to discuss but discuss their projects with me one by one. We do of course have weekly meetings and updates and so forth. But. I'm interested in what's happening in. The projects. I want to see the fresh data coming out. And. There are times when when I see things that students are not seeing. And which which led to important findings. To think that while those are. Made a mistake by some wrong result. But those are not very interesting. So we shouldn't really if it. Was a safe if it's reproducible then then you need to worry about it. If it's not reproducible then of course you can say is error or something. But some of the most interesting things come from. Observations that you do you don't expect. When part of the job. Did you enjoy most. Publishing traveling. Publishing. I don't read Joy really because you have to write it up. I know I really know the answer. Why would I have to write it right. I just I just want to know the answers I actually enjoy giving talks because that's the most recent result that my publication. So publishing. Students need the training that they always write the first draft. So between the first draft and the talks I give I push them into paper and submit it. Generally that's how it works. I. I never went for high numbers or what journals to publish. I know people putting it nowadays are very sensitive where you're published but I choose journals where I think. I get the most audience. And. In what we did mostly I wrote chemistry so I publish a lot of papers in our country. One of the most published person people groups in the journal and chemistry. And. They get. A good number of citations because that's where the people find it useful. If some of the papers if I had taken that proposition Jax was not. It would not have been read. It was buried there. But people's worry so much about impact factor Jackson they try to publish in Jax but no one reads them not knowing the prison your audience is not there. Right. Right. So that's. That's madness. We're not traveling. I mean you travel a lot. Travelling is I don't enjoy it. I think of it as part of the job. I enjoy. Interacting with people discussions and we have some results. I want to tell people and let them comment on it but usually that's what their comments maybe maybe think of it more maybe do a little bit more. Before publishing. And it's like the peer review I consider the talks to be peer review and. I. Actually it turns out that. Except for. I don't know. I don't know what the number is. I think I've given maybe 740 in value to us. I think about 10 of them. We're not invited. The rest are all invited. Sort of like people heard you once and want to learn more. And so far I've read your paper and want to learn more and so forth. So if people invite. And. It's. I mean the timing is right and so forth. I should go because this is interaction. This is my publication. The other ones that were not invited were those because we have we funding from agencies and we have to support their meetings and we have to submit talks and so forth to. Sort of to add to our result. I think. Once I was. Where. I was commenting on the fact that you travel so often overseas and you told me that you actually don't get jetlag anymore. I don't. I don't I get some but I overcome. I did basically just sleep on the plane. You have to sleep on the plane. And. If you can sleep on the plane then the time change becomes. Correct and afterwards. It's not it's not totally satisfactory. The person who read does not get jet lag is chugging. Really. And yes good reason for that. On a daily basis. He devised his sleep time. Into two slots. One a few hours at night. Well. Quite a few hours a night. I don't know how many. And then one so after dinner. So he sleeps twice and therefore he's never out of sync right. If you had trouble saying if the other. So. So I think he doesn't get jetlag because of that. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. What phase of your career did you enjoy the most early or. Late. I enjoyed every every part of. I don't think there's some. On the one. I enjoyed. Every part of it is very different. Nice having you start out having to explore and not having the lab set up so well and have to. Do things on on duct tape and so forth is kind of interesting. Sure. Are those slower. And having a big group. This is nice. You have lots of variety and in some senses parallel processing. If one project doesn't work the other projects working so you compensate. The part that actually. I. Not to enjoy very much is to was just a few years before I retired. And. To that two parts of it one this the students. Are not. As. Attentive. Not that they are not as good. Better don't seem to want to learn as much as. You want. I see. A. Very big difference between students and I. When I when I started out. It's a gradual. Gradual deterioration of. If they. Want me to teach them then they should be attentive right. If they're not attentive. I don't. I'm not I'm not. I don't give a lot of homework and it's not that kind of thing. But but it basically is just. They don't seem to. Want to learn. You mean less eager. You mean classroom students. Classroom graduates classroom students. I really enjoy teaching in particular. That's why. How are you doing. I have no problems. I. I. I think I mean students don't fall asleep when I read a lecture and so forth. And but in the old days. Maybe. Maybe. But the. You always have some. Degree of absentees. But. In the later days it is the undergraduates. It's. Close to 50 percent would not come to class. Right. So how can they learn anything. I retold them for a day of lecture that if you are lazy you should just come to a lecture. Forget about the book because I've distilled all the important concepts for you. And if they don't come to class they can't. First off they can't blame me and they think they won't learn anything. Because if they want to read books then they don't even have to go to university. So. So I become. Disillusioned. About. Classroom teaching. And so. And when I have so many other commitments I try to reschedule classes. It worked so hard to come back and meet the classes and get everything. Taken care of. And students are not interested. Why am I doing all that. The other is. The other party but also its greatest unity. They kept. Kept for me and maybe not for the department but. All the time I had good students and people that are recommended by other professors so I know they are good and they are even to my last student. They are all very very good. I. I. I can't continue. Forever on that because I've in fact built up an even larger network. For any good students. And well. Most of students that most I estimate that probably I take about 50 percent of students who have to join my group. Over the years. So they they are somewhat preselected. And people who have no contact with me. Prior to coming here. Prize very little chance of getting. Just because. I don't want to. I don't want to. Some people take it more students and then write more funding and so forth. I didn't want to have the group excessively large so I don't have. Good contact with each project. So that wasn't a problem. But. It is. For whatever reason the Kennedy family has gone downhill. Quite a bit. As I mentioned the beginning is 15 and then people like opera Chapman cloudy left and so forth and there are some unfortunate passing and so forth along the way. But. That's not that's still not the problem. It's more like in the in the 80s and maybe even to the early 90s. We were still very we as a defined are still very. Ambitious. Like we still want to. Be better. And we have the ability to be better because the universe is still. Supporting. And the. Age. 70s. And. In. Those days of funding is still. Allows us to not get new people in and so forth. And. We were talking about hiring. Senior people from here from there. And. At one time we want to hire the whole Indiana University Indiana and local faculty here. Year Whiteman then. And. Nevada and so forth. We talked to all three of them unsuccessfully. Any one of them. But we had the package where the ability to do that. But. More recently as this we have been so defensive and just not. Very difficult to. To be. Too upbeat. About this most important thing is this really the people that you start with the faculty and then good faculty interact with students and. And. So on. A good department. And. The. State of Iowa started not to somewhat high education as much as it did. Once before. And. Divided the money to K through 12 instead of. Higher education and no federal government has his own problems and in money. And getting worse and worse. So while. Over in Asia they are upbeat. And. Have money. And they all strive to be better. And have resources to do it. So that's why I've been spending more and more time in Asia. And then coupled with the fact that. I don't have to. Meet the Monday Wednesday Friday schedule. So then I said. I should just retire from teaching and. And just basically. Do some of these other things that I. Think I probably. Would enjoy more showing. So. I think. That's. A main. Reason. Just. A point of clarification about your early career and for some reason I always thought that you had an affiliation with Dick Zimmer. No. No. Zero. And I'm one of the few people. Optical spectroscopy lasers and how it will come through. It did not happen so soon. Okay. And all of the others. If you look elsewhere they all have passed through. And. It's kind of interesting because in the beginning. We are sort of competitors. Because you know a lot about lasers and physical chemistry and I knew about this. I actually I knew Dick. When I was in Berkeley and he was still not a Stanford it was due at Columbia. He he visited Bradley mostly because they. He's one year ahead of. Him or. Something like that. But. I. Think I had a good time talking to her about this about my project there and so forth. Oh. No he. He was into applying leases to analytical measurements. I was applying that also. Slightly different but. Not a. Direct. Competition. But we are doing similar type of device. OK. We've covered all the time. OK. To cover. Would you. Like to add anything else. No. Well. I think I. I think it was a very. Good. Choice for me to come. I would say. I wouldn't I. Wouldn't. Want to. Have. It any different. It was. Exciting. And. It was the right place for me particularly Ames that. Without the internet. Prior I would have. Thought. Otherwise. But for example. I talked about. Having a postdoc with Klemperer at Harvard. Well. At that time it was really that the project that he. Gave me on that we were talking about he didn't give me any projects. Of course was to use lasers to vaporize things inside a mass spectrometer. To see what clusters come out. That's. The. C 60. I think. Maybe I will have some boys I don't know. It was about the age that when people are starting to pump lasers into. Into elements elemental rights and see what comes out. Well I didn't do that. I went to metals instead. And Smiley went to carbon so. But there was that interesting. So turn of events I would have been in that field. But I think my banker did something like that and. He was talking about carbon clusters very early. And I remember. But. No I think I think it's either very rewarding career. I was status and particularly. For example if I'd been. To some of the big ten schools for example. I would have been a physical chemistry. Because that's what I was only looking at. And. Thinking of how fiscal chemistry students you cannot. Be Competitive. In. Big Ten video games compared to Berkeley and Stanford Harvard. Yeah. You're not getting the very best in the kitchen to get one or two. But here we are. I believe a classic at. Some of the best people interest in our chemistry. And so that made a difference. They are independently they work well they understand and they are eager to learn and so on. So without that you. I mean these are just ideas someone has to try them out and make them work. So. That helped me tremendously and of course the Ames teams that provided. The freedom at least in the beginning was off life funding. So it's really a freedom it's a performance space. I've proposed a few things in though in the was that never worked out and. Then. Shut it down if we come through a long proposal to give out those ideas. But they let me do whatever I think is right at the right time. And. That. That freedom. Allowed the research to flow and get into new areas if and restricted to this three year grant cycles. Might not have done this well. And. There was actually. Hey. What 72 was a very great that year. I did get two interviews one at Iowa State and the other Ohio State. And Ohio State one to me because Jack Calvert was a. Wonderful chemist. Trust my opinion. He's doing he's my emissary photo chemistry. Anyway it turns out that what happened. He he knew me from conferences and so forth. So. That's the field they want. And. I'm supposed to be a top candidate. But turns out that. When I interviewed there. I had the flu. So I was completely drowsy not not up to par. I similar price OK. But when I. Discuss things with people it was not was not very exciting and not very so. So I didn't get the job and I was staying. And. It's very very different here here here. I was. On. Up to par and I talked to people like. JURIST mine and Phyllis Carter who would know exactly what I'm talking about. We were shocked. They understood the project. They understood why I'm doing it and they have faith in it and so forth. So that's that made it very very easy. And. Comfortable to him. To be here. The person who got a job at Ohio State. Did not do too well. He was his promoter and so forth. But he always. Has. I have enough students so I was there has a strange system. I think each professor gets six. Students slots sixty eight slots. Least back and those they have huge. Freshmen. Pitching requirements. So let me they. You don't have to have any research grants. And you can keep six students all the time. But they don't even have enough students to make six in the Pecan group. So. So they. They. Don't do us well. So. It's also also fortunate. So it's you know it's very strange you cannot predict where I would have been. But. I think I don't regret anything. I think everything just worked out just fine. OK. Well. I. Stopped.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35394/file/104430#t=0.0,4732.36898"}]}]}]}