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There it is. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=1.42,4.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is going and this is much more traditional.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4.71,7.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's just some tape in there and we'll","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=8.53,11.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"see how this works here. 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Nice home by the way. And we're going","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=25.27,28.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to have a discussion about his career at Iowa","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=28.41,31.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"State. 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And Bill Jischke and I--I knew","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=3633.69,3637.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1093","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his wife much more closely--Um-hm. Patti. Yes. Yeah, Patti--than","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=3637.44,3641.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1094","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jischke himself. And the new man I've never met.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=3641.82,3646.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1095","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Leath. 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Well, I'm a bookman from the word go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=3986.01,3988.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I love books, I love the music of books, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=3988.44,3990.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I love the music of words. One thing I do want to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=3990.67,3993.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mention which has not been brought up and that is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=3993.48,3995.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the business of computers in the library. Um-hm. You know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=3996.12,3999.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what I did about the empty conduits and so on. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=3999.03,4001.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the false floor. Yes yes. But","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4001.91,4005.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we also got together with the Regent's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4007.34,4009.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"institutions and we were responsible for setting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4009.62,4012.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up the first joint committee for the three Regents","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4012.89,4017.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"institutions and that's why we hired Charles Sage-- Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4017.33,4021.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e -our computer specialist. Right. But since they--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4021.27,4023.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"nobody knew anything about computers, I certainly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4023.9,4026.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"didn't, we had Charles at my institution. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4026.21,4031.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"administered Charles and he spent one week on each","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4031.06,4034.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"campus--one week at Iowa City, one week at Cedar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4034.31,4037.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Falls and one week at Iowa State, and then he was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4037.97,4041.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"administered, did his reports on the fourth week,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4041.72,4044.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then he'd meet with me. And he was the one who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4044.78,4047.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"taught me about automation and computers and the need","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4047.21,4050.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the developments. Yeah, he just retired a few","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4050.64,4053.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years ago. That's right. And he actually was the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4053.0,4056.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"first to prepare lists of serials. We made sixteen","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4056.03,4060.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"copies and we had them all over the campus. Yep,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4060.23,4062.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"yep. Bound volume, we still have the 1990","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4063.02,4066.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bound volume--you know what-- Oh do you? --after--we still have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4066.17,4069.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"those because every now and then if the online","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4069.11,4071.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"catalog goes down and you got a patron wanting-- So you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4071.72,4074.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"use them still? We still use them to this day, to this day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4074.54,4077.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, yeah. Well, I want to thank you. I'm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4077.57,4080.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sorry I'm taking so much-- No, this is fine. I'm just tickled","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4080.75,4084.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to death to get some of these insights--it's just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4084.29,4086.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fascinating. I'll but I'll go ahead and pack","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4086.03,4090.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things up and bid you a good day. And thank you so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4090.02,4094.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"much and hopefully you will continue to work in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4094.25,4096.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your basement and bring to the library the treasures--Well, I've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4096.95,4100.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"got lots of stuff. --the treasures you have. So, very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4100.04,4103.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"good. All right. I'll-- Well, I appreciate Ed that I'm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4103.04,4105.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"keeping you from your dinner. No, that's fine. That's fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=4105.23,4108.02"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18461/annotation/1228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/461/original/RS000-017-003_Kuhn.vtt?1599133508","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/461/original/RS000-017-003_Kuhn.vtt?1599133508"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18462","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Unedited text [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800/transcript/18462/annotation/1229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- I get this to go in here. There it is. All right. This is going and this is much more traditional. There's just some tape in there and we'll see how this works here. Is it going to pick things up here? Is it going to pick up--? There's my sound. All right. And I'll just introduce it by saying this is the fourth of October, 2012, and I'm in Dean Warren Kuhn's home. Nice home by the way. And we're going to have a discussion about his career at Iowa State. And I'll just begin with--I'll just begin. So. You've been at--one of the things that struck me was that you were--you know, you're from Jersey City, New Jersey, and you were educated at New York University and you got your degree at Columbia University. Correct. And then your work was on both coasts, though. You worked at New York Public Library and then you went out to New Mexico was on both coasts, though. You worked at New York Public Library and then you went out to New Mexico and you were at Arizona State, positions there. And, of course, Stanford. What was it about the Iowa State job that attracted you? Well, it just rather involved--mostly it was about, I suppose, wanting to get away from the coast. I enjoyed California tremendously, my son loved it. I really enjoyed things out there. We could do so many things. But the--I was getting restless. I had finished the undergraduate library. And I could see that, you know, we had very good people. Dave Weber was the assistant director at the time. And he was in line for the directorship. And I wanted a directorship of my own. And my work on the undergraduate library--of Street by the way, the Street Library--that's what drew me out to California. So I built the Meyer Library. And when we had finished--that was a major project when that got done--I really wanted a directorship somewhere. And I began--oh, I, for quite a while, I had been getting, I suppose, I must have gotten, you know, I was on the standard list, I got twenty-five or thirty applications from all over the country. And I had one from Maryland and I interviewed there. I didn't want to be that close to Washington D.C. And then I had the possibility of Oregon, that seemed to be of interest, but I didn't really care for the rain because my son had lived with his grandparents in Aberdeen and it was always drizzling and I decided that's not necessarily what I want, but it's a lovely state. And so I was even asked to be considered at Princeton. And I thought, well, what I really want is a quiet town that's somewhere where it's quiet and my son can grow up without having problems. So, Iowa State was one that came up and Rudy Rogers was the director at Stanford. He later became the director at Yale. But he had been born in Iowa. And he warned me about the winters and I took it too lightly. But he said, you know, you might want to consider Iowa State. Because during World War II--just at the end of the war-- Charles Harvey Brown, who was very respected, and Verner Clapp, who I'd met at Princeton, were sent to Japan and they rebuilt the Diet Library. And so that was quite impressive. So I thought, well, I'll give Iowa State a chance. And so I got on a plane, landed, stepped out that door and was hit by the humidity so terribly that I decided do I really want to stay here. And I rented a car, drove up to the campus. Everyone was very kind. We didn't have any money in those days at Iowa State I mean, it was, it was maybe not poverty row, but it was pretty close, pretty close to poverty row. And things really changed, of course, when Bob Parks come in and he turned the place upside down, really, really made it grow. But, they--we had a committee made up of a few members of the library group, a Professor Alma[?] from zoology and a professor from history and economics. In those days those departments there were--a department of history and political science and geography all in one. We were that tiny, it was a restricted school. And the emphasis was on science and agriculture and that's where the collection was. But they took me to the library. And the place was a dump. Everything was terrible, I mean, it's no longer important, of course, everything goes on the computer now but the microforms were in a closet. And there was no room for the books. We had no special services, no special collections, no archives. The staff was good, friendly, helpful, hardworking, but they were almost desperately looking for some type of help. And, you see, Bob Parks had asked the previous librarian, Bob Orr, to step down. That was the whole reason. In fact, I've got a copy of--I made a copy of the-- it was the North Central evaluation that got things started and you might want to take this along. Oh, wow. That's great! Yeah. So President Park's asked Bob Orr to step down? That's right. When he--had he been-- And he had had cancer and it got the best of him. And actually, Margaret Gross was in effect running the library. Oh my goodness. She was handling everything, all of Bob's concerns, and he had been so good. That just simply takes out the 1966 report which is what got things started. And Bob Parks read their report and he wanted to change the university, add new humanism to it, and he was-- he suggested the library really needed help, needed a new director. And so then ten years later they came up with what had been done. And then finally they-- the one in--I guess that's-- So when Bob Parks read the '66 report, he said, okay-- That was it. That was it. So George Christensen and Bob were the ones who interviewed me and then the library committee. And I knew that something had to be done. And I don't know why I suggested it but the town looked quiet and small. The school had a good reputation for my son. And so I thought that was the way to go. So I decided to stay, but everything was haphazard. Just-- Was the, was the--in other words the building was was not well organized? The building was, well, for one thing you walked in the circulation desk was on the left and it had green stone of some sort. And it had been covered with dirt from students' legs and it was greasy. And the offices were actually faculty rooms that had been put up but they were enclosed--you had no glass in the doors--and that was where the circulation librarian and the thesis office was. Charles Harvey had taken over the thesis office from the graduate school and Margaret Mae got the job of running it. So we had a-- And Ledonna Bishop then. Yeah, she did that as well. In addition to her--to being his assistant. So when you became--so did Parks or Christensen sit down with you and say, \"Okay, Warren, I assistant. So when you became--so did Parks or Christensen sit down with you and say, \"Okay, Warren, I now want you to do this and this and this?\" What he charged me with, he said, \"I'm going to put it all in your lap. I want you to come up with what you think we necessarily need, give recommendations not only on the library and the collection, but where we should be going what direction shall we take, and tell me about the budget needs and so on.\" And we were spending only $600,000 on books at the time and we really were just disoriented. Did they promise more money for you then? Did they promise you that--? They promised me a salary. Well, no, they promised me, but all of this had to come from the state. We really had to fight. You know, the first, I think I said it the last time we talked, that we got that $500,000 appropriation, but it was a two year appropriation so it was two-fifty each year. And the year we got it, one of the department heads said to me, \"But we can't--we can't accommodate that. That's just too much money. Couldn't you ask the Regents to wait until next year and give us the money then?\" And Bob Parks and I would go to the legislature. We sat and talked endlessly with committees. We did everything possible. One of the things I did to to impress upon the faculty what we could do for them was start these published annual reports, a book that I sent out. Okay. It was a beginning effort but I would distribute it all over campus and I wrote in the--in the annual report what we could do for the departments. I made a point of visiting every single department. Oh really. And the English department came over to me and they were--they were just like small children saying thank you because they had been neglected. The art department, the music department--Larry Burkhalter from the music department. I mean, there was nothing. They weren't even in a college. So you met with them? You went out all over campus and met with them and described the services of the library or you asked them what they needed or--? What they needed and what they needed in terms of books what they needed in terms of services. In fact, there was a faculty committee that's got some involved name like the faculty committee on services to the faculty and it was made up largely of the library committee. And just about the 1966 North Central report the faculty committee report came in and they said the same thing, that we needed the budget to be enlarged. So, the budget had to be added to, the building was cramped. What people don't know is that in the original plan for the 1925 building-- 1922-'25--there were two wings to the building. Now you know the one wing which is where we now have reading rooms and then the other-- Right, right. All that. There was another one on the other side proposed? Right. That's right. Well, there was another one, another duplicate of that to the north,-- I'll be darned. --to the north. And so what we did we had an addition one and addition two and then addition three but addition three I asked for two hundred thousand square feet and they only gave me one because the appropriation could not handle it. The state was running into harder times and so they cut me back. Oh sure. There's two phases we'll give you an appropriation. The first was for adding the new addition and the second was for renovating the building. And making it all work together. The renovation went out the window. So Bob Parks had to go internally. We went to the alumni and we bit by bit built up what we had. In fact, the Board of Governors are the ones that put together a four hundred thousand dollar personal gift. They each contributed money from the Board of Governors to fund an architectural study on the third addition. Wow. That was part of it. We had to work every--See, today, with the master of budgets and the presidents all in favor--our president was very much in favor-- That's what I was thinking, Bob Parks must have been a--of course he had been here for a number of years already, right? He'd been through the and so forth. He had just come in a few years before. Right. Just a few years before. But he certainly was--so you always had him in your corner? Personally--yeah, well, we worked closely together and Ellen of course was totally on the side of the library as well. In fact-- So when in fact when they named the--was there was a lot of debate about naming the library after them? Well, we had a committee on the campus led by Virgil Lagomarcino from the College of Education. And we all felt that the library should be named after the Parks. In fact, I've got in the--in the books that Dave Gregory sent back to me from the library, I've got the original sketch for the nameplate that goes on the building-- Oh wow. --and I have to give that to the library. Well, yeah, I know, in fact, you do have--you still have materials to give? Oh, yeah. Yeah? Because I know you've mentioned over time you've been giving them and so forth. I've got papers, I've got books, I've got all kinds-- Your collection is already pretty good sized that you've given but it's--so what, when came to the library and yet despite all of that you still had no hesitation. What actually impressed me was the fact that the interviewing committee was not funded. It was funded by themselves. And so when we went to eat they all had to kick in to provide money to buy me a steak at a steakhouse outside of town and then the last dinner was in-- what was his name?-- oh, I can't think--well, anyway--in the faculty home and the wife cooked a roast beef for us. And they were the ones--I mean, we didn't have any money. There was no money. What did you--did they pay for your trip out here? I mean they comped you for your travel? They paid for the trip. Yeah. They paid for that. So, even all of that, You saw possibilities--? Well, I was excited by it and I thought if I could really take this on as a challenge that stimulated me. And I felt well it would be great for my-- yeah yeah I'll stop. It's all right. It's probably a lecture. There we go. Yeah, because, now when you--did you have plans to stay? Was this going to be your last stop as a career? Was this going to be it for you, you thought? Not necessarily. I just wondered. I wondered if-- I thought I'd stay here for a while as a full director and then move on. Okay. And here I am after forty-five years. It's not the only time people have come here and stayed but I was just curious as to whether you--whether you saw this is the end of the line because you were a young man you were only in your forties so-- That's right. When--the staff--you've talked a little bit about the staff--that it wasn't a very large staff. No. But overall you--of course you started building the staff over time. Can you give us some thoughts about what kind of vision you had for the staffing? Yeah. First of all, I felt that we had to have a better organized staff. There were department heads, in a way, but there was no coordination. Nobody coordinated with anyone else. Oh wow. And I saw on my job was going out and building up funding, getting money, making sure that the library was promoted in every particular way. Not only with the state committees, but on the campus itself to get the faculty support. I had all the support in the humanities, but I had to convince the people in science that I wasn't going to steal from them to give it to the humanities and the same with veterinary medicine. Veterinary med--the library for veterinary medicine was in the basement in the quadrangle. It was just a few books on a shelf. And we had to build that separately. And so far as the design--there was no design library it goes until we had the Design Building put up. But, yeah, I always feel that a library without good people is nothing more than a bookcase. And good people are so important. But we didn't have much money to go outside. So each time I discussed with Bob the need for adding more and more personnel and I finally was able to assemble--two form within the staff and then two from outside--assistant directors to take the load off me and give a little more coordination. So we had one for public service-- So, it took a number of years to get that done? What'd it take, several years? It took about two years to get that done to get the associates, however, I started with trying to get somebody who would be a sort of an executive officer then they could take some of the load off--I couldn't do it all myself. I mean I was raising the money-- Oh yeah. --I'm running the library-- You couldn't do all it, no. So, there was a man in cataloging, Fred Peterson, very good man, very bright, very worthwhile, and he was talking about possibly going on to library school and getting a PhD at Indiana. And so I was impressed with Fred and so I took him out to a local bar downtown and I said to him, \"What I need is an assistant director. I need somebody to do it.\" He said, \"No, I don't want to--I wouldn't--I want to go to school.\" And I said, \"Please, won't you please be an assistant director?\" And Fred said, \"All right, I'll try it.\" So he became my assistant director. And there was a little--my office, you know, was just behind the mural, the Grant Wood mural, and where you have that little instructional room, now. Right, right. And there was a little tiny room for a bookkeeper and we put Fred in that particular room as an office, but Margaret Mae was in an outside office with one or two other clericals. And right behind my office was the ladies restroom so you had this tremendous Niagara all day long which was going on and then the office also overlooked a delivery office for mail and packages and they'd come up with the radio blaring and I'd have to lean out the window and shout at them to shut up. I mean, it was a--it was a job, it's-- the difference between what you've got now-- Oh man.\r\n\r\n- -and what you had then was tremendous. Well, obviously, when you had the new addition you wanted to get the dean's office to be removed-- at least get up a little bit off there so you could be-- because that was-- Did you have a large hand in the design of the new addition. Yep, right from the beginning. We sat down with the architects and we became very friendly. Chick Herbert? Chick Herbert. Yeah yeah. And he and I hit it off from the start. We were very close, very close. And all of his sub-architects I said, well we're very close maybe[?]. Do you--were you also involved in the other because you were there with the other additions, too, right, with the--? No, I wasn't--addition one, of course was back in, oh-- '59 I think. --'60 or '61-- Yeah, yeah. --something like that. And then in '69 they had addition two-- But you weren't that involved in that--? --I wasn't involved in that planning. That was just an extension. That's when they put on that ugly little front entrance that was where-- You didn't like that probably from the beginning? Well, it was a--it was a bottleneck, you know, and there had to be students at the door to check-- Yep, yep. --knapsacks going in. I think people were more honest--there were a few books taken out but not that many. People were more honest. I think today having the electronic-- Oh yeah, they'll walk right on out with it, yeah. That's right. Things have changed. Attitudes have changed. Yeah. Yeah, but-- But the--so the personnel when you added--oh, you and Chick Herbert worked very closely together then with the design. Right, yep. One additional thing about all of this is that we had a campus physical plant and the man in charge, the director in charge, had come up from the janitorial ranks off campus and he ran the physical plant. And Bill Whitman, who was his secretary, sat next to him when we had meetings writing on top of a file and he kept the notes, he kept the business notes. But the head of the physical plant told me that we do not want anybody connected with the department when we put up a new building being part of the construction meeting. And I insisted that I be involved and they said, \"No.\" And I said, \"Yes.\" And they said, \"No.\" And so finally I just simply went. And so every month we have a contractors meeting and we'd be there with all the various people representing the trades and I was there. I wanted to be there. But I was able to make on any number of changes because of the cooperation of President Parks and the architect and the university. Because when we poured the columns supporting the building down in the very lowest basement, we had to excavate the ground--it was about ten thousand square feet. The idea was to fill it in with dirt. So I was able to recommend that simply pour the cement floor, pour the walls for a small amount of money, and then we can have that as space and ultimately we now have that as space. Oh, it's very--it's extremely valuable too, I mean, that lower level area there--all that area there-- It's really worthwhile. It's used--well, we put classical shelving in there and it's also used for--I don't know what we'd do without it, I really don't, because there's a lot of, you know--furniture, all kinds of shelving, all kinds of stuff goes down there. Well, the shelving on the left hand side on the forward side facing the Knoll, that shelving came from the Veterans Administration. Oh! They--down at the Veterans Administration those shelves move back and forth and they couldn't keep them alphabetized and by law they have to hire people of lesser education to work for the V.A.--and that's all the money they had--and so they got all mixed up with their alphabetizing and so they wanted to get rid of those shelves. So I made a special deal that we would pay for the transportation and I got the shelves from Veterans Administration and we put them down stairs. I mean, life was full of deals for me. All I did was deal and fast-- I mean, you were always--and so--just so during the time you're doing all that you had pretty good internal management, right? You had a number of individuals that were-- Well, I was beginning to rely more on Fred to handle things internally and Margaret Mae was immense help, immense help. Well, her experience, I mean, she'd been there for twenty years already by the time you got there-- Right, right. Since 1941. --and knew where all the bodies were buried, you might say, and so forth. So the addition. The addition wasn't as large as you wanted--was there--but otherwise it turned out pretty much the way you wanted it to be? Yeah, the building was, yeah, the rooms and the-- A few mistakes were made with some air conditioning and some air was a little too overheated and we had to do something with the roof. But, yeah, generally it followed exactly what-- Did you have to learn a lot about buildings and everything as part of the work? Well, I had done the building at Meyer Library. Okay, so you already had-- Let me show you the picture of the Street Library that I left. Okay. This was added to the shot. This was designed by John Carl Warnecke who designed the Kennedy memorial. Oh sure. The Eternal Flame. And that was the Street Library. Oh wow. That was the Meyer Library. So you already had a lot of experience with buildings. With buildings, oh, I was in at the beginning. And then, of course, we did the Street Library as well at Princeton which was a residence hall library, but I was involved with the purchasing of the furniture and the design of it. There's a--there's a photograph that shows you next to a-- Oh yeah. Oh my gosh. That's incredible. That's--so you certainly had a lot of experience with buildings before you ever got here. Yeah. Which, of course, helped you-- And I tell you I learned a lot, too. Well, and, of course, the technology changes and so forth. And the one thing I had done is did a movie at the building of the Street Library and I did one here as well. We did a motion picture of the-- So, it's in the archives? It should be in the archives. Okay. Well, that's, well, I didn't know that the building took all-- I still got pictures to go. I got downstairs tons of pictures and reels. I've got a whole set of pictures from the China visit that we made, you know. So you've got still some organizing to do. Oh, I've got Margaret Mae's files to go through, she has two or three filing cabinets. Oh. I've got five filing cabinets that got to be gotten through. Oh my gosh. It's a-- it's just been quite a bit, quite a bit. Well it really has, so let's see, so space and maximizing library space was probably a concern of yours all the time because you're building the collection and-- There was a space problem from the very beginning. I'm not quite certain whether this was Charles Harvey or the--I think it was Charles Harvey who made the comment but he prophesied that in 1925 when the building opened because they didn't get the extra wing at the time, and the reason they didn't get the extra wing, somebody in the administration said you'd never fill it, you'd never fill it, so we're not going to give it to the state appropriations didn't work. But he prophesied that by nineteen--in five years--really it would be four--by 1930 it was full. By 1935 students were leaving the library because they couldn't find seats to sit down and study and-- Well, that was twenty years before you got there. What'd they do in that intervening period time? That's why they built the first book storage-- Oh, that storage building. --that old building and that was a hassle in itself. Oh, terrible environment, terrible environment. Oh, God, it was awful. Have you had a chance to go out to the new storage building at all? No, I've never been able to go-- It's a nice facility, it's got some problems with the roof, but it's a nice big, you know, it's-- Yeah, I'd like to see it. I've been promised visits and I just-- Oh, I know, but it's like--it holds like 750,000 volumes and so and it's all on the movable shelving-- Well, I tried to get one of those while I was there. Yep. But we didn't have the money. I actually offered the chance that I'd work with another department that they'd use half the building and I'd use the other half and over time when they got buildings and the campus was building them they would move out and I would expand and take the rest of this. And I said we'd just build a-- just a block, a concrete block which is what you got and, well, it never came to fruition. Yeah we were able to get that--I think that was one of Nancy Eaton's things to do because the building was full. I mean, you know, we don't buy the number of books we used to because, you know, electronics, but we're still adding. We still, in fact, we're having to remove the asbestos--they want to do re-carpeting on the third floor so there's been asbestos to deal with on the old building and and that's a big, big job, but so--what was I going to say-- what--so when you got the addition built, was it-- were there--were there any complaints about it? Did people think that, you know-- Not a single one. Not a single one. The only--the only dream that I had that never came fulfilled--because they found out structurally it couldn't be done even in the beginning--what I wanted to do was to add a number of hooks in the upper portion of the central lobby. And my idea was that we could have hanging exhibits all off[?] and the rest including--this was when we were doing well with balloons in the state of Iowa--I actually made arrangements for someone to bring a small balloon and a basket and I wanted it hung in the lobby as a chance to, you know, entertain. Well, I mean, Libby is doing this now. She is bringing in people and having dances and various things. That's great. That's great. Yeah, the library is a public space. You've got to promote the library. What did the, you know the staff lounge, of course, is a wonderful place that the staff have, what did they have before that was built? Before that, there was nothing. The staff lounge actually occupies a space that was called the attic of the library. And it cut off the windows in the front\r\n\r\n- -where you see the [unintelligible]--and that's where the maps-- there were a few map cases up there. Okay. That was the map room and nobody ever went there. It was just terrible hard to get to. So one of the things that I fought for was a staff lounge and not necessarily there but a staff lounge. And the campus--I don't know whether they still have it now but in those days there was sort of like a campus space police. And you--and you couldn't--you had just a certain amount of space, you had to be on a list with new buildings or additions or renovation of any sort. And then gradually over the years, you moved up on this list and you kept pushing. And if the person then mailed me[?] and I hadn't promoted it all the time, I don't know when we would have gotten the third addition because that was necessary. Oh, because that was--so that was--so before that time there was no staff lounge at all there was no-- No, no staff lounge, well, actually the girls had a staff lounge which is where you have the cafe-- Right, yeah. --but the boys we used the one men's room that we had and we couldn't--the girls had the, of course, the toilets behind my office. But it was the men's room in that exit that goes outside the library by the stairs that go upstairs. But that was the men's room. And that's what we used for recreation, but we had no staff lounge. And the staff were so grateful that at least I got my name on the staff lounge. Yes. They put a picture of me. Right there when you walk in there-- And they were so happy. So, but I had to fight the space people to get that in addition we had space problems. I don't know whether I mentioned this the last time, but downstairs there used to be a machine room in the basement of the library. And there was an opening about maybe four feet square hidden by a piece of plywood. You pulled that plywood out and you got into the plenum of the library. Oh, okay. And the plenum was where I crawled around and we found out that the-- that the building fan system was flooded and the air was coming up with humidity because we had turned a reading room into a special collections-- Just a second here. I'm going to change tapes here. Just a second here. Just get this--Yeah, I remember you talking about the plenum and as a--and where it's--where it's located. Get this out-- Because that's kind of a--every now and then staff will go down because it's kind of scary place to crawl around in. There was a--there was a--some kind of--there's an apartment down there. You can live down in that in that spot. There was people living there. Was it like maintenance staff or nighttime staff or something? It was the janitor and his family. Okay. And they actually lived in the library. Wow. And then he finally--when World War II came along, he was the one who worked there, but at the end of the war he wanted something better. So he got a job somewhere else and he got education and moved out. That's when we closed it up. Well, we used it for a mail room. Oh really. Well, yeah, because that's where the mail would have--yeah, you could have used it. That's right. One thing that's hard for us who have known--who have only known the addition--now, I was a student here in the seventies so I remember the little rotunda thing in the front--but for, you know, almost thirty years now the library is as it is and to have that older configuration there isn't much-- Yeah, but there was an apartment down there. Yep. And just before you reached that apartment there was a--there was a machine room to the left and it may still be there. But there was the plenum--you say the plenum is still there? Yep, still there. Well there's about five thousand square feet of plenum if you can get down on your hands and knees. And I actually bought or was planning to buy some of these mechanic dollies that go underneath automobiles and we would have those in there and then you could sort of simply squat on those to get underneath the ceiling because there was no way to stand upright. No no. But during the war that was made a shelter-- Oh. --for the atom bomb. Wow. Okay. And when Ann Schroeder, one of our storekeepers, she found when we had to clean some of this out when we wanted to use more of it--she found paper potties[?] and there were old water containers and thermometers. And we were supposed to have, I don't know, two hundred fifty people that might have been able to stay there for a week or so if we were given a supply of food in case of an atomic attack. I know that tier seven was closed off, wasn't it caged during the war, tier seven was caged off is where they had some of the Manhattan Project papers? Tier seven? I don't know. Way up on the-- way at the very top tier, I think it was closed off. I didn't know that. the Manhattan Project papers? Tier seven? I don't know. Way up on the-- way at the very top tier, I think it was closed off. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. So what, you, for example implemented the bibliographer concept with like Ursula von Godany and the others and-- Well, yeah. The first one was Don Pady. He was in humanities and, actually, Don left us after a number of years and did a fine job for us in humanistic areas, but he went on to the Mayo Clinic and became their librarian and then also became their archivist. Wow. And he's retired now and living in campus--in Kansas. And he and another faculty member from Emporia State University have written a book--a novel-- about hidden gold because, you see, Kansas was on the way to the mining areas in Utah and the next states. And it was a gold and silver strikes there and the rumor was that there was always gold planted back around Emporia. And so they've written a novel about that. So he sent me a copy and I'm reading it and I'm going to give that to the library. Oh good, good. But his picture was in there so, but he was one of the bibliographers. But the other bibliographers, we hunted among the staff. John Gellas[?] was in charge of serials. But I didn't have any money and John was willing to take on the job of building the collection. So he handled that. And that's why he became assistant director. Every now and then he still comes in the library. He seems to be doing pretty good. He's, you know, he's been retired now for--he retired about the same time you did, I think, and, but I do see John every now and then come through. And, of course, but I came in the early nineties, Bill Lee was was a bibliographer and Cindy Dobson. Right. And, of course, I replaced Ursula when she retired. And, but, that whole-- that whole-- The concept, I felt that we had to build up the collection and we did everything to build the collection. One of the things we did in the early days, because of saving money, we sent John Gellas[?] and Don Pady and one of two others that--I don't think we had Bill Lee at the time--but we sent them all to Chicago to bookstores to used-- Oh, gee.\r\n\r\n- bookstores and we gave them tape recorders and they went through and any book that they thought was worthwhile they read into the tape recorder. We brought the tape recorders back, we listened to the tape recorders, and then we decided which ones we wanted, and then we got a discount buying them in bulk from the used bookstores in Chicago. So you had--you yourself personally made a lot of selection decisions as the dean? Mostly they made the selection. Okay. I didn't do much myself. Because I know as a humanities I mean with the English background that you had, I mean, you probably supervised great leaders[?] in literature. Oh, some books, some books, but, no, I concentrated more on special collections. There were so many things out on the open shelves that I wanted to get back and keep safe like runs of early serials that were really important-- Because you helped get the special collections created, right? There was no special collections. There was nothing at that time? When you took over there was nothing? We had a vault and a few odds and ends of rare books in the vault. And Dorothy Kehlenbeck was there. Dorothey Kehlenbeck. Primarily Dorothy lived in the faculty lounge--the coffee room--which you now call the new book room. Right, yes yes. Yeah. Where you have the globe and so on. Yes. Yeah. That was the storage room. And that was the only conference room we had--we made our conferences there. And she had a little desk and she simply, each year prepared a university summary of the university history. Oh wow. And that's why she collected some of the university papers and some of the early catalogues of the university. And I felt we needed to have a university archives as well. And I introduced the idea of the archives--not only special collections-- but the archives specifically at a dean's meeting. And, literally, one of the deans said to me, \"Why do you worry about the old mimeograph of the old letters? It's the new memo that I want to see. I don't care about the old memo.\" And I said, \"Well, there's a historical rationale to restore and save these papers.\" Yes. Joyce Van Pilsum, the president's administrative assistant, she was the one who found the old papers of the presidents in the basement of Beardshear. Wow. And she was the one who brought it to my attention-- They were just in boxes or something? They were all in boxes scattered together, tattered and so on. And that's how we came to those. And then the presidential portraits were all in the Memorial Union and they wanted to paint the Memorial Union. And I said, \"Why don't you bring them over to the library?\" So that's how they got there. That's how they got to the library Oh my gosh they're wonderful. [unintelligible] we brought those over. And then the-- they're now in the art museum, but the Wyeth paintings, they were a gift from the meat company, the packing company in the--oh what was it? It was a big, big, big packing company now out of business. But anyway, they did these Wyeth paintings for a calendar. And the originals were given to Iowa State. Morrell. Yeah, yeah. They gave them to Iowa State. And so these were hung on the walls of Beardshear. And nobody recognized that this was original art from Wyeth. And so, finally, we were able to get them over into special collections and we hung them on the wall in special collections. And one actually disappeared and I wonder whether it ever came back, but it's one of Daniel Boone opening up the Kentucky area. He's dressed in the-- Did you know they were originals? Did you yourself know they were original? I knew they were originals, I'd seen the original and, I don't know, we must have, I think, we loaned it to an American rifle magazine and I can't remember whether it returned, but it wasn't returned and it disappeared, we had to fight for it. You know, the thing that's striking to me is that so much of the library that we have today was a result of things that you did, you know, all those years ago that we just take for granted that were always there--the presidents, you know, the president stuff was always there because they fit-- the presidents gallery is such--that's such a wonderful area. That was originally a circulation area, right, and reference? it was reference. Reference area. That was also the director's office. Margaret Mae sat next to the director's office and when Charles Harvey Brown wanted her attention, he'd yell out and he'd call \"Margaret\" and she'd have to go into his office. She went through all sorts of difficulty with that as well. I remember talking to her and just as an aside it-- because Charles Harvey Brown was gone by the time you came here-- Oh yeah, yeah. --but he certainly was still kind of a force, a memorable force, within the library. Well, you see he thought that he would run the library even though he was retired. Because Bob Orr, he had to step down, and Bob Orr was brought in. And so Margaret and Bob Orr together planned it that they would take over the direction of the library and they gradually eased Charles Harvey Brown out. But Brown would on a weekend ask Margaret Mae to come to his house and they have a card table and she typed letters for him on the weekend without getting paid for it. And Mrs. Brown was a very sweet lady and she would give Margaret tea and make her a sandwich and so on. On weekends! This is on weekends. Margaret did it all. So I think that it'd been hard for Bob Orr to have Charles Harvey Brown in the background the whole time. Yep, yep. I think it'd been a very difficult thing-- Well, you know, Bob really did an awful lot. He needs a lot more credit than he's ever been given. And he stayed on at salary. And. There was a way you have the--I called it the President's Room--the scholar room, which was a coat closet in the original library, and that was my office for a while. Oh okay. But we put Bob in that particular office. And he worked on a history of the library. Really? And I still have some of the papers that he had. Did he complete the history, the writing? No, no. He never did? Okay. So then-- He developed cancer and had a colostomy--a colostomy bag. So he was out but he didn't ever try to to second guess you or anything? Not at all. Okay. He was very gracious to me. Very helpful. Gave you all the information, never interfered whatsoever. Because that could have been very difficult for you. And we got along fine. How long did he stay? How long was he--was he still in the library--? He lasted about maybe a year or so, a year or two,-- Okay. I had no idea. --because he was going home to change a colostomy bag at noontime and he was taking drugs and it deadened his hearing. So he was driving home at the intersection of Lincoln Way and the dormitories. And he drove out into a path of a fire engine and the fire engine hit him and killed him instantly. Wow. And he had already donated his body to the University of Iowa pathology cadaver lab. So they took his eyes and so on. Wow. But that's what killed him and that was a sudden shock to him, as well. Wow. I just--I didn't know he was still--that he stayed on after he stopped being the director. Yeah, oh yeah. Well, that was the arrangement. I mean you can't have a director who had been there that many years have him step down and a new young man come in, because Bob used to be the chief of ACRL the technical service division. And, you know, he was a force, he was known. That was the first storage room built west of the Mississippi and nobody had done any storage outside-- Wow. And that was him. --or exterior--Bob was the one who started it. I think you're right. I think he, because of your own career and your impact, I think Bob's probably been kind of forgotten. He's kind of sandwiched between Charles Harvey Brown and you and you had this period of almost twenty years of someone that probably isn't that well known. Well, you know how unusual that is to have Charles Harvey Brown from 1925 until Bob comes in and then Bob until I came in and then I last twenty-two years and now Libby--and Eaton left quickly, which is more typical--but Libby has been there what ten years now. Thirteen. Thirteen. Thirteen years.. And, I mean, I'd hate to see her go, I wish her the best, but you know, it's my last link, but that's an unusual situation. A series of directors for that many years in one institution. Because normally they're like presidents, they leave. No, it's-- And Iowa State, the president, the vice presidents, they stayed. It was more a family. Now there's a revolving door. It's a much different thing and I think your tenure was twenty-two years and part of it is sometimes it takes that long to get things done. It takes-- you gotta learn the culture, you've got to learn the people, and then it just takes--it just takes time to get things. I was going to say--the library--one of the questions--we have today a Library Advisory Committee. Did you have a Library Advisory Committee in your days? No, not an advisory committee, we had a Library Committee-- And from faculty--? --made up of leaders from various departments. And these would change every few years. Did they work with--did you meet with them on a regular basis? Oh yeah, on a regular basis, yeah, and Bob Orr did, too. And they--did you find that a valuable committee to have? Very, very helpful, very worthwhile, particularly, I mean, I still maintain contact with some of them, most of them are dead now. But Bob Lewis was the one that I worked with more closely from entomology. Yep. I think-- The flea man? Yeah. And Bob and I are still close friends. And very helpful because see the interviewing committee was made up of people from the Library Committee--they were the ones who led me around. Well, it would make sense that that's true. I think of the various staff that you had over the years are there any of them that you remember, one way or another? Very much so. First of all, I'm very proud of the fact that in twenty-two years, we sent about thirteen members of the library staff on to become deans, directors, associate directors, assistant directors elsewhere, plus many others that went to other libraries. But, for instance, Fred Peterson got his PhD at Indiana and then became a librarian at Catholic University in Washington and then from there went to Illinois State Teachers College, teaching university. Tim Brown was my assistant director. He became director at Boise State University. Ken Marks was the son of Bob Marks, I think it was, the vice president for finance when I initially came on, and he was interested in becoming a librarian. So his father sent him to talk to me and I persuaded him to become a librarian. He was in the reference department. We hired him back as a reference librarian. Then he left and went on to Utah State University as director and then from there he went on to become director of the University of Nevada at Las Vegas. The assistant director for tech services, Kaye Gapen, she became the University of Wisconsin at Madison-- Yes. --director, as well. And, of course, and Paul Gherman became director at Polytech in Virginia and then became and went to Vanderbilt and that's where he retired, he's still living in Nashville. So those are the people I remember remarkably. Yeah. And I still, I mean, occasionally someone will dump--very interesting, I have insurance with the Triplett Company, who by the way were the ones who when I transferred my property from California here to this house the shipping department, the movers, would not move the property in because they wanted to be paid, but I had already paid the bill, but there was a mix up with the company so Tripletts paid the bill. Oh wow. And they paid the bill to take care of my furniture and they found me this house as well. And so I was with Triplett for many, many years and they had a new young person that has come in as the insurance replacement, or insurance man, and he's been my insurance man and he's moved to another company and I moved with him, but his his father--let me see if I get this--his father--his father married the daughter of Don Pady. So Don Pady turns out to be his grandfather. And so Don came to visit the insurance agent. So one day I got a call from my insurance agent saying, \"Would you like to see my grandfather, Don Pady?\" And so that's how I got to talk to Don Pady about his recent novel. That would be--that's quite--that's quite a connection there. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. Pretty amazing. One of the things that I noticed in this brief summary is that you served on a lot of national committees over the years. Were there any ones of the national committee service that you remember of being particularly of, you know, I'm really--we really did some important things or--? Like, just to remind you, you were--. I was the director for the board of the Association of Research Libraries. Right. Right. I was also on the board of the Bibliographic Center for Research in Denver and I was the board of the Center for Research Libraries in Chicago. And I also became president of the United States Book Exchange, which was the one that was formed in Washington to send used books from all libraries in the country to Europe to rebuild the libraries in Europe. And it became, eventually, an exchange--out of business now. Yeah, we were still using it twenty years ago. We were still, I think, in fact, USB still is a source of exchange for us. Oh, is it. is it still in business? Yeah. We're still in touch you with them. Of course, that's been a long time, but-- That was a shoestring operation. Yeah, yeah. Running that, that was very impressive. But so, did you, did you feel like you spent a lot of time on these boards or was a lot of your time still-- Oh, a lot of time. Yeah, yeah. But I suppose the most active I was was with the American Library Association. I became a member because of my writing, a member of the editorial committee. And then I became the chair of the editorial committee. And then Bob Ridgeworth[?] came in and he and I worked together to really rev up the publishing department on which the American Library Association is based primarily, and makes its money. Yeah. So you were the beginning of kind of getting that going? And I became the chair of the publishing board which in effect subsumed the editorial committee within the publishing board and I actually was involved with publishing books for the American Library Association. Wow. I was very active there. So I was in Chicago a good deal. I was in Chicago a good deal with a--with a number of other national committees as well. I was with--they put me on the committee--Carol Niemeyer, the Associate Deputy Librarian of Congress--Carol, asked me to become the co-chair of the American Association of Publishers, which was a part of the ALA committee, so it was a joint committee, and we met with publisher representatives about ISBN numbers, with book production, with publishing, with editorial dates and all the rest. It was a fascinating committee there and-- Oh my gosh, yes. And very important, too, I mean, just being able to establish bibliographic control, things that are very common today, you know, ISBN numbers are assigned to everything, but certainly you look at older works and they weren't there. It's a wonderful way to uniquely identify an individual item. And when Bob retired at the last big affair that we held for Bob Parks, Carol came here at my invitation and she gave the address. Oh my gosh. And talked about the library as well. That's a tremendous connection, tremendous connection. Yeah, really I had a lot of connections with people. Well, yeah, I mean, over twenty years plus your career, your career had been, you know, before for thirty-some years or longer you were very much involved in-- Well, Street Library--I wanted to give this to you as well. Okay. All right. I noticed that it's not in the catalog and this is one of the copies that was given me, it's the Street bibliography box, and it was--it's from 1965. Wow. So you can take that along to give that to-- Oh, yes, this I'll definitely give to Tanya. Yes, absolutely. Wow. It's still in the box! Still in the box. Holy cow! That's about as pristine as you can make it. You know? I had it downstairs and I thought you ought to have this. Well one other thing. There was a chap who worked for us--Mr. Ed? Have you heard of Mr. Ed? He just passed away, just passed away about two years ago. Everybody knew Mr. Ed. Everybody. And, you know, I always planned to meet when he came. His son's in the nursing home now-- Oh, okay. --in Story City. And Ed came here but he was just too ill to hang on and he left. But these are photographs that Ed sent me which cover his career in the service. Oh wow. There is something along in here-- And these are--these are letters from Ed. I thought these ought to be over in part of the library. Oh, absolutely, because everybody knew Mr. Ed. He stuck a lot of things in an envelope. Uh-huh. Oh, and this is a letter about people asking--Bill Black wrote to all the librarians in the ARL to see if they had any words and, of course, they all wrote back and I have that book with all the retiring letters. Oh okay. You still--you still have that. I've still got that, yeah. So, I should tell Tanya that you'll be-- I've got so much stuff. I can help you with that. Okay. Well anyway, you can take this. I'll take this. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. And those are good photographs of Ed and he was in North Africa and he was a master sergeant, you know-- Yep. --in the army. So, we were very friendly and always talked about the army. And then, one thing I've always wondered, you know, I support this with my bibliography--this was a collection put together by the Class of '34--and you heard about how this came about? Go ahead and tell me again. All right. I would meet with the fifty-year class each year and I would obviously promote the library and I became very friendly with a Pete Hilstrom, who at the time was considered Mr. Iowa State. And he had many friends who had a great deal of funding and they helped the engineering college and so on--and there were people who helped UNI and the rest--and they were all members of the Class at '34. So they funded some--oh, seventy-five thousand--planned for a kiosk and we were going to have--I was going to have somebody sitting in the main lobby of the library to offer assistance, information, in addition to the reference desk. Right. And so we got that kiosk--and it never was really used for reference--but they raised an additional $25,000. And so Pete Hilstrom came to Margaret Mae and said, \"We'd like to put together a book collection funded by this $25,000 as a surprise to Dean Kuhn.\" And so they called it the Warren B. Kuhn collection and she gave them a photograph of myself and my dog up at the farm that she had taken and very secretly they had that done and they made the book plate too large. So I'm sure they're not using it in many of the books. And I was willing to have it shrunken so they could put it in--. I think, I think it's--I think they have done some way of making it because we have the Kuhn--we have the Kuhn gift fund with the Kuhn-- Yeah, I funded that. --and I think they use a smaller--a smaller version of that picture is used in every book. That gift fund has not only doubled, it's tripled. It's $78,000 now. It's a wonderful fund. And I throw only doubled, it's tripled. It's $78,000 now. It's a wonderful fund. And I throw money into that. Yeah, boy, all you want, just any time you've got some just-- And, you know, I've also set up a fund for Margaret. An endowment fund. No, I don't think I knew that. Oh, I wonder if it's--see Olivia knows all that stuff; I don't--I don't know that doing that. In fact, I'm just transferring stock over to-- That's great. That's great. In any case. Oh, you want to keep that? No. Oh, okay. I'll take this too because I-- Do you have a copy? Well, yessiree. Well, the final question I have for you, you know, when looking back you could kind of summarize both the successes and what you were particularly happy about or things that you wished would have gone better or differently for you. You know, does success-- Well, I can't complain about the assistance I've gotten from the university. That's always been on the side of the library. And I think each of the presidents, to a large extent, Eaton was pretty much on the side of the library. And he would come over personally and look for plate tectonic magazines and I was able to take care of him on that. And he wrote a novel, did you know that he was writing a novel? No, no. We got talking one day about novel writing and so on and he found out about my writing and he was writing a novel--a mystery. Wow. Did he ever publish it do you know? I don't know whether it was published in that builds his. And Bill Jischke and I--I knew his wife much more closely--Um-hm. Patti. Yes. Yeah, Patti--than Jischke himself. And the new man I've never met. Leath. But I was very--I was very much impressed with the Geoffrey and in fact Geoffrey and Libby sat down at lunch and were trying to suggest that I might fund perhaps, you know, some deanship. Oh okay. And if I won the lottery I'd be willing to do it, but I'm not able to do it. I'm able to handle an endowment for Margaret, my own endowment, and that's about it. But in any case, that's what it was. But you had a question, a comment. You said, \"What lessons would you pass on?\" And one of two things that I would say, first of all, I would say that you've got a librarian--and Libby does this well--you have to be a patient bulldog. You really have to be patient. You have to be tolerant but you have to keep your teeth in there all the time fighting for it because among deans, we used to joke that the deans are all sharks. And you really find yourself and you have to be as massive a shark as you possibly can for the other dean. In fact, there was a joke that--who was the provost at the time, who went to Florida, but in any case--his joke was that a bunch of deans were traveling on a cruise ship and they struck a rock and sank and the deans were in the water and a shark came along and the shark presumably asked the dean, \"What do you do?\" And the dean said, \"I'm a dean.\" Oh and the shark said, \"Well, professional courtesy, I won't eat you.\" That was a standard joke that he'd make. But the other thing I want to say is Bill Dix was the finest chap I worked for. I mean, I worked for some fine people all over the years but Bill Dix and I were very close. And I stayed in his house when I was trying to find an apartment when I first moved to Princeton. And Bill would always say to me, \"I believe in giving people their head. And he gave me the head when we talked about the undergraduate library. He sent me up to Yale and Harvard and I met with the people who run the house libraries and the college libraries and he let me build a collection by myself. He gave me the royalties for the book. And I--and luckily I was able to get one of eight bachelor apartments in college road west that overlooked a pond where George Washington's artillery was situated that used to shoot cannons against Nassau Hall and there's still chips in Nassau Hall that are covered by Ivy. Oh my gosh. And that was where I lived. And Alec Wainwright, relative of the M. Wainright family, was at Princeton at the time. He was the acquisitions librarian and he lived downstairs, but right across from me was Jerry Horton of the alumni department collection development, I mean fund development, and Jerry would use my apartment as a restroom for the ladies and they would leave their coats on my bed. And that's how I got involved with alumni. And I learned all the tricks about fundraising from the Princeton people. Well, who know a lot about fundraising. I mean I used to sit with Jimmy Stewart--are you still-- No, we still got you. I'll still get you on with this one. Okay, but, yeah, I remember, you know, we would have a meeting and Jimmy Stewart would be there and then the P-rade, the big Princeton parade where all the classes came, and I would get invited to all the tents and I met the alumni. We had tremendous collections at Princeton and I wanted the same emulation here at Iowa State. That's why I concentrated on special collections. My feeling is that the advent of technology is going to be so strong that ultimately we're going to lose touch with the physical book. I mean, we'll still have it. It's a wonderful artifact. So my endowments, my concern, is primarily now--which is why I set up Margaret's endowment--is for special collections and that's why I built it in the beginning because it's the one place where we carry on a book heritage onto people who don't realize it, who know about it, who have something physical in their hands. You can have all the Kindle readers, but it's not the same thing. It's not the same thing. No, I agree. There used to be a librarian in Florida who would say to me--at the end he'd make a speech--and he'd say at the end of the speech, he said, \"As for you, I'm going to go home and cuddle up to my film strip.\" You know, he was fighting against the advent of microform and film strips, which were then-- Sure, sure. --presumed to take the place of books. But anyway. Well I--those were absolutely, absolutely correct with the book and the future it and so forth and special collection is absolutely a wonderful place to be able to maintain that long term because they're committed to the long term preservation of the artifact. Well, I'm a bookman from the word go. I love books, I love the music of books, and I love the music of words. One thing I do want to mention which has not been brought up and that is the business of computers in the library. Um-hm. You know what I did about the empty conduits and so on. Yeah. And the false floor. Yes yes. But we also got together with the Regent's institutions and we were responsible for setting up the first joint committee for the three Regents institutions and that's why we hired Charles Sage-- Okay.\r\n\r\n- -our computer specialist. Right. But since they-- nobody knew anything about computers, I certainly didn't, we had Charles at my institution. I administered Charles and he spent one week on each campus--one week at Iowa City, one week at Cedar Falls and one week at Iowa State, and then he was administered, did his reports on the fourth week, and then he'd meet with me. And he was the one who taught me about automation and computers and the need and the developments. Yeah, he just retired a few years ago. That's right. And he actually was the first to prepare lists of serials. We made sixteen copies and we had them all over the campus. Yep, yep. Bound volume, we still have the 1990 bound volume--you know what-- Oh do you? --after--we still have those because every now and then if the online catalog goes down and you got a patron wanting-- So you use them still? We still use them to this day, to this day. So, yeah. Well, I want to thank you. I'm sorry I'm taking so much-- No, this is fine. I'm just tickled to death to get some of these insights--it's just fascinating. I'll but I'll go ahead and pack things up and bid you a good day. And thank you so much and hopefully you will continue to work in your basement and bring to the library the treasures--Well, I've got lots of stuff. --the treasures you have. So, very good. All right. I'll-- Well, I appreciate Ed that I'm keeping you from your dinner. No, that's fine. That's fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29166/file/96800#t=0.0,4108.51265"}]}]}]}