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Watergate was what was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=14.04,17.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what are you going to tell somebody in a minute or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=17.61,19.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"less? 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So against everything I was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1159.23,1163.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"brought up with in the Midwest and human rights","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1163.53,1167.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and respect for the individual in the and it just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1167.22,1171.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it just was overwhelming and it was and in a way,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1172.26,1176.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you felt you felt sorry for Nixon because there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1176.52,1179.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was parts of what he did and what he did in China","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1179.31,1182.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and and the other aspects. 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I think the paranoia and what","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1186.3,1190.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"happened with the people around him and it's the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1190.95,1193.59"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"classic case, the people around you may advise you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1193.59,1196.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a certain way. 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I'm sorry events happened","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1212.19,1217.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that were not right, it was wrong and I was wrong,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1218.65,1221.92"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I, I asked the American public for forgiveness","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1222.49,1226.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I still want to be your president. 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So you wondered","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1900.87,1904.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whether you could do your job, whether whether you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1904.08,1907.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/536","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"could really be the member and then communication,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1907.38,1911.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/537","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, could you communicate with your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1911.34,1913.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/538","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"constituents? So it it was an emotional roller","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1913.35,1916.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/539","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"coaster, both politically and also personally and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1916.98,1921.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/540","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"emotionally for me and my family going through","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1921.99,1925.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that period.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1925.26,1926.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And. I'll never forget it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1928.49,1932.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Great, anything else that you wanted to mention","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=1934.34,1936.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674/transcript/65181/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"otherwise, you did terrific. 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Sure. I realize how so. And I want to just to start kind of in your own words, it's probably the toughest question, but just a synopsis of a minute or less of what to you. Watergate was what was what are you going to tell somebody in a minute or less? Here's what Watergate was from your perspective. What was that? Well, from from our perspective and from the committee's role, we had to in a sense, it was a combination of putting the presidency on trial. And it was the president trying to we had to decide whether or not under our Constitution, this one check of the abuse of power, the abuse of office, whether this one check that the framers of our Constitution laid out, which they never expected probably to ever happen, whether that. Check was in play and whether the presidency was on trial, what we didn't realize at the same time the presidency was on trial. The Congress was on trial because the Congress had to make a decision which was momentous, which affected the country, which hadn't been faced for since Johnson's time. And that was President Johnson after Lincoln. Talk about your committee. You told an interesting story yesterday about how in the beginning you weren't going to vote for impeachment, just kind of when when right first got together. What what was the dealings? What were the things that were going on? Well, when you grew up in Iowa, which I did, and I was the son of immigrants, we prided ourselves in our country. You know, we were proud of our country, proud of our president. We may not have agreed with everything the president said. So that's what I grew up with. I grew up with that in Ames. We listened to the presidents on the radio there, not as much television. And it and it gave us a sense of pride. And then. Then that period where I go to Congress, and just because I was a different party from Nixon and I had met Nixon at the White House when we got soon sworn sworn in, it wasn't enough just because we differed with him on policy or certain issues to to to vote for the impeachment. So that's really what I walked into when I came into and sort of thought about this was viewed as a person coming from the Midwest with this pride of our institution, the presidency. That's what I started with when we first began those those hearings. And who was it? You said in the first few meetings, was it Conyers or. Well, yeah, there were there were two two members. One was John Conyers, who's still in Congress right now. He's an African-American from Detroit and John Conyers. And there was a father, a father priest whose Father Drinan from Boston. And we would get together at the beginning and to decide whether or not we should proceed. And they initiated the first resolution which followed the Saturday night massacre of of Archibald Cox, which was the special prosecutor. And at that first caucus, I remember them saying to me, and I'm this this fellow from Iowa, this freshman, this new member, Amos Vronsky, don't you know? You know, we have no choice. He's going to be impeached. And I said, What do you mean he's going to be impeached? We you know, just because we're of a different party. And so that started the process. And little did I realize that as we progress that the evidence would be so overwhelming. What was the pressure like for you guys? Well, the pressure was was it was pretty unusual when I got elected. The name is Venky was not a household name. Look, I came here in this country. My father came from Russia, my mother from Poland. Mezvinsky was not just the household name. It took a long time for people to recognize the name. We did a few unusual spots, commercials that made people laugh. So I would go to parades and I during the campaign and people were very open and friendly and they would laugh because they would be quick about we would make a mention of the fact they couldn't pronounce the name Mezvinsky and I. And so that's that's really what I started with. And by the time the impeachment process continued and the more it continued and the more that we had groups that were defending the president no matter what. And it was very strong and it was vehement that when I would come home to some of these same parades, some of the small towns, lo and behold, people were throwing stones at me yelling. I was told to be very careful and you may be threatened. You may be hurt. Just a totally different atmosphere because of this vehement contrast between those that defended the president, no matter what and those that felt that the presidency was on trial, that this was an abuse of trust and that we had to proceed. So it was it was significantly different from when I first got elected. Talk a little bit about it. This is off the subject of Watergate, but about your campaign that kept the campaign spot that you talked about, right? Sure. Well, I started the greatest problem you have, especially when you're up against the person that's well known. And this happens in today's political environment. You have to get yourself known before anything. So I had to figure out, well, what do we do to get the name? Is Alinsky known? And fortunately, I had a very good friend. I had a friend became friendly with a a person that that was that was good at taking unusual issues. He took the unusual campaign of of of the Goldwater Johnson campaign and the little girl picking petals and that one spot with the bomb blowing up in the background. And so I talked to Tony, whose name was Tony, and I said to Tony, what should we do? Well, Tony did this unusual spot where he had buttons and the buttons would come on the screen with the name is Venky and different people. The voiceover would be mispronouncing Mezvinsky and they would go with him, you know, and and different people would do it. And then at the end, the spot would say, you may not be able to pronounce Edmands. His name, but you knew what he stood for? Well, we hadn't yet said what what we actually stood for, but it did the trick because after that spot, we would go to the small towns and the parades and people would wave and they'd smile. And we knew that we crossed the bridge. The name had been known and they would laugh and and we could talk about the actual issues of the campaign. How did you end up on the Judiciary Committee? Well, I ended up on the Judiciary Committee in those days. You had to you had to get the blessing of one committee, which was the Ways and Means Committee of the Congress, and in particular the chairman. And we had an unusual request. The request was I wanted to get on the Judiciary Committee because I was concerned about what was happening in our country and with agriculture, where farms were were going away and there were compressing it. And so we we flew with another member of Congress down to see the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, and his name was Wilbur Mills, brilliant man on tax. And I came in and we we landed. And as we landed, all of a sudden this this jet pulled up and out popped Oral Roberts, who was well known, and he said, hey, hey, boys, where are you going? And said, we're going to go see the chairman. And so he said, well, follow me, come with me. We went to the building that was named after the chairman and we waited and as we waited in the room, outworked Mike Wallace from 60 Minutes, was doing an interview. And so both myself and another member from from Missouri who was a farmer, who raised who raised Charly Bulls, we went in and we made our pitch at the same time. And what was really ironic is at the same time, I asked to be on the Judiciary Committee. The chairman said, well, you know, I just got a call from the president. He has a candidate. And, you know, I have to respect the president. And the candidate was a woman that I later served with on the committee, African American, a wonderful woman by the name of Barbara Jordan who who really made a mark in Congress. And we became dear friends. And then later I asked the chairman of the Judiciary Committee through Tony, and was able to get on the committee. But it was it wasn't easy getting on the committee, but it was. And little did I know that when I got on the committee that we would face the Watergate issue, the impeachment. And we also had to face the resignation of a vice president. And at that time, that same member of Congress, John Conyers, when when we were weighing that while Nixon was still in before the impeachment issue, it was John Conyers again who said to me, look, Mezvinsky, we can't support these appointments by the president because he's going to be impeached. And I looked at him as if he was in another another world. But little did we know that that the events and the and the facts would would be carried on and let alone did. We had no idea that there would be tapes that we would listen to. And the impact of those tapes, which probably no president now is ever going to have in the White House again, really was the was the crushing blow. And when I heard the tapes and had to make that decision, that's that's really what was a major factor in terms of of ultimately deciding to vote. What was it about the tapes that the tapes were? The tapes were in the confines of the White House? It was there was a member that was counsel to the president by name and John Dean, and he testified about what went on in the White House. But but we actually heard it on tape and we heard the president's comments about about what he thought about the president, about about certain people he had on a friends list and he had an enemies list. And if you weren't a good guy. Or if you weren't a defender of this presidency, you could end up on the enemies list. You could have your taxes audited. You can have all kinds of things. And we as members and I was warned as we went into the hearings that, look, Mezvinsky, you better be careful. You know, you may have a good project for for the district, but if you're viewed as being questionable that project, you can kiss it goodbye. The presidency will not support it. So so we heard that. And then and then he would talk about people, which was eerie. I mean, I grew up with the impact of the Holocaust and people some devastating comments. And it was almost like it was an eerie experience. You felt you felt as if there was something wrong, that there was something eerie and suspenseful and and not right about the comments. And one day he would make a comment about a person and make jokes about the person and even some racial remarks. And then the next day, the same person or some other person would be nominated to be on the Supreme Court. So, I mean, it was very, very unusual. And and also the whole issue, which the tapes ultimately came back to the Supreme Court was the cover up and that showed up on the tapes. And that part of the papers that I've donated come out, I mean, which is very unusual as closed session. And so, unfortunately, the president was aware of events that were taking place. And it's the classic case. Sometimes the cover up is worse than the actual event itself. And so when the case went to the Supreme Court and the tapes came out, then it was overwhelming. We had Republican support as well as Democratic support. But after that, that was the time that members of his own party. Went to the White House and said, Mr President, the committee has voted and the president says, well, how many votes in the Senate? And they said overwhelming support. And that's when the suggestion was, look, you better resign. And, you know, the only other emotional moment. They came to me was that I felt sad when we had to vote. It was very emotional because I didn't want to impeach the president, I didn't want to remove a president. I didn't want to acknowledge the abuse of office. And it was really a sad moment. And we talked among ourselves, including the Barbara Jordan and the other people and the chairman Rodino, that it was a sad moment, but yet it was probably one of the finest hours for Congress. Later, we discovered it took that. And then when Nixon had to make. He made his resignation speech in the White House and he talked about it and I was then driving to the Hill, this was after the hearings and everything. I literally pulled off the road and cried because I felt what it did to our country. But yet, on the other hand. It was. As I indicated, Congress on trial, it was the test and it probably, as I said, came out to perhaps be one of the finest hours of Congress to be able to take a very difficult test, which was bipartisan. It wasn't partisan. It had the support of people from Iowa, as well as those that were way ahead of us at the very beginning. You talk about it being one of the finest hours, I agree with that, and as you look back at how history has treated Congress or just overall that moment, how do you feel? Well, that moment was quite a moment because it was a test. I mean, we had demonstrations and protests and threats and members from states like Alabama. I mean, they were really under the attack, had strong support with the George Wallace environment and that strong support. There were so. The members really took a position that wasn't partisan, we are you know, today is is a very partisan environment, whether you're on the left or the right or wherever. We're seeing that on legislation that just recently came up, whether it's guns or whether it's immigration or the budget or whatever, this this was an issue where it didn't become partisan. You didn't have to put your finger in the air to see which way the political winds were going. So the members really stood up, weighed the evidence. And impeachment is not only a legal decision, but it's it's a combination of legal and political. And the members realized that they had to take this position. They had a very good vice president that came out of Congress, which was Gerald Ford. So it was it it was a time when there wasn't deadlock like like we're seeing today is you look at. When you first. Heard about these accusations to go all the way back to the beginning. Did you have any idea it would end up being whatever? No, it's a matter of fact, is interesting. The campaign was 19, which was at the same time that Nixon was running and Watergate appeared. You know, the break-In took place in the midst of the campaign summer and The Washington Post, you know, some of the press was point pointed that out. They didn't really go into everything. There was the case was still pretty much deadlocked. We didn't have a special prosecutor. And I remember on a rally we had and the Democratic nominee for president was George McGovern. And we came together and he he talked and we sat on the stage. There was there was Harold Hughes, who was then there. And I was there on behalf of the district. And and the issue was mentioned. But it was just sort of in passing. The bigger issues were, of course, the Vietnam War, what was going on and so forth. Watergate was was an undercurrent, but it didn't have the attention. It didn't have the exposure, didn't have a special prosecutor, didn't have somebody that was fired, all the events that took place later. So it did come up and we heard it. We thought about it, but it was unheard of that. What happened with the money and the amount of money and and the taxes and everything that was involved in the use of the CIA and the FBI, all of these institutions of our government that we we learned to respect and we have to understand about, little did we know then as I was, I was just a naive I wasn't 100 percent naive, but I certainly didn't think that Watergate would result in the president. Ultimately resigning, let alone what I hear, White House discussions on tape that were so. As I said, so devastating, so. So against everything I was brought up with in the Midwest and human rights and respect for the individual in the and it just it just was overwhelming and it was and in a way, you felt you felt sorry for Nixon because there was parts of what he did and what he did in China and and the other aspects. And he was a smart, brilliant man. I think the paranoia and what happened with the people around him and it's the classic case, the people around you may advise you a certain way. And and unfortunately, he got caught up in that and and wasn't able to cut the cord. Also, he wasn't able to admit his mistakes if he would have been able to have gone before the camera and said, look. I'm sorry events happened that were not right, it was wrong and I was wrong, and I, I asked the American public for forgiveness and I still want to be your president. I think our public is a forgiving kind of public and the voter would have accepted that and I think it would have been very difficult to proceed. I think that argument would have been hard. He could have acknowledged what happened and I think it would have been taken on its face and perhaps would have changed the ultimate outcome. Now, my understanding, if I heard this right, you say you were the 20th vote. Yeah, I it just happened when you vote. There were articles of impeachment. And and when you vote for the first articles, which was the abuse of office and the abuse of trust, you go down the line each each member the votes and you have to have the majority vote. And I was since I was a new member, came down the line. And so by the time it came to my vote and I had to raise my hand and say I that was the that was the deciding vote to have the impeachment article pass. And and then there were two other articles after that. But yeah, little did I know that here being born and raised in Ames, Iowa, and that I would end up alone being involved in that proceeding. Historic, but also having to to be that deciding vote at that particular time. What what do you hope people get out of these papers and releasing the papers, why did you decide to do it now and just. Sure. Well, I decided to do it. Because it should be the papers should be available for the public and for the researchers to sort of know what what we went through, the history of this also maybe as a lesson as to perhaps how government. Can run, whether you're a partisan on one side or the other, that there comes a time when you know the country, you have to face issues and you have to come together as a people to deal with with volatile issues. Yes. That are emotional. But yet you expect your government and your representatives to sort of be to be able to do that, to take those positions. So the papers, I think, will be open for all to see. They can they can they can not only look at the papers and have access to what went on in that period. They'll get a little flavor of how the public and the press reacted and hope that we don't No. One, that the positive side is good, but then we hope we don't have to go through that again. We hope that we don't have to have enemies lists. We hope we don't have to have, you know, public officials that that not only embarrass the trust, but abuse the public trust that the founders of our country, little did they realize at the time what happened the way they did. Now, I don't believe we'll have tape recordings to to use in the future, but I do believe that historically it's a critical period and it won't soon be forgotten. Maybe all the nuances and Watergate may not be quite the same, but I think the import of it is important. And also, I wanted to bring it back to Iowa. I wanted to see the home roots, you know, to show that I'm grateful for the experience. I'm grateful for having the opportunity. And I'm grateful that, you know, to be raised in this environment which which gave me and others, even the Republican across the river who represented represented Rock Island and Moline, Tom Railsback, a Republican, we were close. He voted for the same articles that I did. It really showed that the institutions of government can work and what the founders really intended to do, even though you may have incredibly strong arguments on the other side. So I hope the papers will bring out perhaps what can be done rather than what we're witnessing perhaps on the front pages and on television today. We didn't have cable. We didn't have a lot of the the we had we had TV, but nothing like we had today. Any other stories about the Judiciary Committee that that you want to share on just overall how you think? Well, what was happened? We also had a chairman who is who who is a new chairman. Very interesting and little vignettes we would experience during that. We he he tried to keep us on the path of being more nonpartisan and partisan. And he did that. And he had and he and we worked with the other side. We had we had a minority leader. And so we work with the other side. We had staff people that were very supportive. We took a a minority counsel. His name was Gener. He came from Chicago. He came from the Midwest, and he was the chief counsel, chief minority counsel for the Republicans. And we had a member by the name of Ginder. And as a result of that, they came together, they worked together. And they they they weighed the facts and weighed the evidence. And it was it was a it was a camaraderie. It was an incredibly close because we literally had to live together, almost spend time, which you normally don't do. You don't just show up at a hearing and then go home. We had to we had to weigh that process continually. And you became close with these people and you learned about about what they went through. And my other colleagues, some of them, especially from the South, who had a real tough time on this issue. There was also Republican and FBI Agent Hogan. He was an FBI agent and he weighed the evidence and he voted. He came. He came across. So he he voted as well. And so the chairman pushed us in the right direction. The the the ranking minority members were there. And we ended up together in a way that that that you don't forget. You sort of you sort of have that feeling. So the committee was. Was was was a pretty close knit, and then there were all, you know, to show you the difference of when I came as a member versus the previous Congress, the chairman, I came from New York before that and he was hard of hearing. And to show you how the different climate was, the chairman was hard of hearing. And when I came as a freshman and it's still that way today, the Democrats will sit on one side, the Republicans will sit on the other. But I noticed that somehow they had moved us. So the Democrats were in the place where they would normally be and the Republicans were in the place where they would normally be. But the previous Congress, it was reversed. Why was it reversed? The chairman, who was a Democrat and who has been there for a long time, was hard of hearing. And he wanted to have his good ear for the Democrats and and so he wouldn't hear the Republicans and it's you know, maybe that's just a little incident, but it told you I let's hope today it's not that way today, but at least it gave you a flavor of of what we were trying to do. We were trying to be fair. We trying to be open. We're trying to recognize everyone. And even though there were those on both sides, the two or three that were already committed to impeach and there were two or three that would not impeach no matter what, but. Because of what we went through and that that whole process of which the papers will show as to why ultimately we all came together. Anything else you said one thought that you can look at and talk to Jeff, but just as this played out, how about your personal emotions? Did you go through times or you thought, why did I why did I want to be on this? Or did you embrace the process? Because was obviously know there was a lot of tension. Hey, Miss Minsky's, don't forget this. Yeah, right. Well, I it was very emotional. It was a roller coaster. It was a roller coaster. Like I said, I walked in. I just wanted to get on the committee because I was concerned about the bigness of farms and agriculture and antitrust and all these issues. And then, lo and behold, we're thrown into this. We're thrown into the fire. And also you're being watched not only by the administration, but you're being watched in a way. And also I was emotional because because it affected me personally. I didn't like you know, it bothered me what I was encountering, but yet I didn't want that to emotionally affect my decision. It shouldn't be just an emotional decision so that that affected me. And then emotionally, it was hard when I would come back to Iowa and then I would get correspondence and letters and people would throw stones at me and threaten me and take me aside and say, look, Mazursky, we didn't elect you to remove a president. You know, you're supposed to you were supposed to you know, then they would look, we did we didn't even know how to pronounce your name. And so now and so it was hard for me and I would go back and I would wonder, are we doing it? You know, is this the right course? But yet we knew it was the course that had to be taken. And I knew certain constituents would would not accept it. And I also emotionally, it was hard because we did know that very well. It may affect our performance because the president may take it out on different members in some way or another. And that and that was hard to do. Does that mean that we're going to be audited, our tax returns are going to be audited? Is that going to mean that if I had a project on the Mississippi River that I wanted to do for locks and dams and we wanted to do it now and encourage it, that it would not see the light of day, that that was hard. So you wondered whether you could do your job, whether whether you could really be the member and then communication, you know, could you communicate with your constituents? So it it was an emotional roller coaster, both politically and also personally and emotionally for me and my family going through that period. And. I'll never forget it. Great, anything else that you wanted to mention otherwise, you did terrific. Said, I think we've got everything OK.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2753/collection_resources/125441/file/231674#t=0.0,1941.48167"}]}]}]}