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We get both the ignoble savage, and the noble savage. The image of the Indian woman, overcome by passion, for the white man's superior being. These are all images that become controlling, in American history. That become part of what Reginald Horsman has laid out, as his construct of racism and manifest destiny. Nationalism, racism, all of these things, use the Indian in various ways, to rationalize the exploits, and the exploitation of land, by Europeans. To say that America was virgin soil, virgin territory, waiting to be exploited by Europeans, is obviously one of the worst myths, and one of the most untrue myths, that one could find in American history. The danger of myths, of course, is that they reduce the complexity of life, to easily recognizable things. Myths certainly don't tell us truth, if we can ever even think about what truth is. Because if we think about the ways that different people explain themselves, their own worldviews, their own relationships, to the natural environment, we see and I'm not preaching cultural relativism here, so much as, that an appreciation of the assumptions about the world, the nature of the worldview, of another people, may tell us very much about the kinds of myths, that we tell about ourselves. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Oh, yeah, questions?\r\n\r\n- We have a few minutes for questions.\r\n\r\n- Before everybody melts, no questions?\r\n\r\n- Oh, there's one, okay, yeah.\r\n\r\n- I was fascinated by your discussion about the development of the attitude towards science in the West, and I was wondering if, if that is something, which you would put into a particular timeframe, as a myth that takes over at a certain point in the western world, or is it something that's been there since the beginning of Christianity .\r\n\r\n- Well, the specific ideas of science and the Scientific Revolution, I guess, really begins to coalesce, in the late 17th, early 18th century. Galileo and his notions about heavenly bodies, the laws of, of mechanics, Galileo dropping his cannon ball off the Tower of Pisa, which is another one of the great myths, of the history of science, but, there are, I guess, with culminating with Isaac Newton, and his laws of mechanics, I think you have this, the real statement, of this scientific aspect of worldview. And one of the things that is important, in the development of that time period, is the very notion that people would experiment. Because prior, I mean, the story about Newton and the cat, or Galileo and the cannonball, is important because it says, Galileo actually went out and did something, to test the physical aspects, of these mathematical constructs that he was working with. So the notion of experiment, does get introduced in the 17th, 18th century, and that is where I think we really get the, the scientific method. Right. Yes?\r\n\r\n- Yeah , excellent, excellent. But I, I think that one might make a mistake, if one sees the confrontation, at the end of the 15th century, at the beginning of the 16th century, as that between European science and Native American myth, mythic poetic projections. In fact, what one finds in very dramatic way, is, is a war between myths. A clash of different myths. For example, the first person to, to write about Native America was Fred Komponen, writing at the end of the 15th century, and he says, that these stupid Indians, think that woman originate from the fact that, at the beginning everybody were men, but there were some kind of woodpeckers, and then men, women were created by the action of the woodpecker in these original men. And this is not that it's false. Everybody should know that women come from the rib of the first man. Well, that's not a confrontation between the scientific outlook, and mythical, poetic outlook. Nobody said a war between myths, that will not be decided by any logic of the myth, probable who has the better work. Or the, or the famous requirement, the requisition or required , explains to the Indians, a mythical view point, of the origin of humanity. There is Adam and Eve, all of you, we descent from that copper. That's a mythical viewpoint. So it's, it's not merely, I could give many examples, there is, there a world of myths. And not, it's not only science against, there's nothing scientific in that kind of a statement, of a mythical, which is mythical statement of genesis. And then it is a, and this is very important, because when a myth is imposed, it's not imposed by persuasion. But by the destruction of the culture of a people. And this is, this is, this is very important, because if we see the confrontation of science on the one side, and myth on the other, I don't know, you see, it's a, maybe the most difficult,\r\n\r\n- This.\r\n\r\n- view points were brought\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- by the Europeans.\r\n\r\n- Well, this is, this is why I use this construct of world view. Which is indeed a difficult thing to deal with, in one hour's worth of time. But to point out all the various intellectual strains, that come together in this worldview. And I'm, I'm really cheating, and I'll admit this, and since many people have left, they're, they're going to go away with entirely the wrong impression. Really cheating to say that, what, what, what Columbus brought with him in 1492, represents the culmination of this scientific worldview, because it really doesn't come into play, fully until the late 18 17th century. And if you look at European science of the time, it is full of things like imponderable fluids of astrology, of philosopher stones that transmute base metals into gold, of a world of natural place. Aristotle said, the reason things fall to the ground, is because they are seeking their natural place, which is the center of the earth. It is still a world that is very animate in most of its characterizations of the natural world. So, those of you who have friends who have left my pass on that critical piece of understanding, so, okay. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Would you agree that generally what we now have, in this, in the funniest century as modern science, is patriarchal and dominating for nature, while most native Americans and their nature to nature is more friendly and, and family life.\r\n\r\n- Well, the notion that the Hopi have that their efforts are necessary to turn the world, I think epitomizes the idea that human beings are an interactive part of the natural environment. They have a sense of control over the situation, in that they do these things, in order to make it possible for the sun to do its things. So the idea is much more one of, I call it, a complimentary relationship, rather than a dominant subservient relationship. I think the dangerous of the scientific worldview in modern society, are the notion that, nature has no will, that if we simply know what all the laws are, we are then able to manipulate the laws and control the outcome for our own advantage. And we, that, that is where the notion of dominance over the environment comes from. The kind of let's call it, intellectual arrogance with regard to the world. We can go on. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Is that a problem? I mean, you just mentioned the term intellectual arrogance, since the last time, you talk about how, maybe IOWA state universities are the problem. probably in the world. University being the bio, bio-technology, and you don't even know what that means. You know, we may have produced the very thing that destroys. Was there a point where we can say, no?\r\n\r\n- I think this conference is a sort of coming together of ideas around that, that made people think about that question. And I cannot presuppose the answer for every individual. I would say that my whole construct, the western worldview, is a very abstract and idealized one, but I think it is the worldview that prevails not in modern society as a whole, but particularly in the academic institution. And if the academic institution on the one hand, emphasizes science and rational inquiry as a way of reaching a certain kind of truth, human as solver on the other side, are still here, kicking and screaming ethicists are here, yelling about what does all this mean in human terms, and in human relationships and in our relationship with the environment, as something other than purely mechanical, mechanistic, materialistic, scientific thing. So I say that the institution is not the, the Iowa states of the world are not destroying it. That some aspects of the enterprise here play a role in, let's call it degrading certain kinds of processes, but that certain other aspects of the university, are raising the, the, the concerns that need to be raised. We have to go outside the university to find out where the seats of power in American society are, to make the changes and the applications of what goes on in the university. What? All right. Thank you, very much.\r\n\r\n- Lemme remind you that there are sessions again at 3:30 in this room. Professor will be speaking, at eight o'clock tonight in the sum room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42896/file/115493#t=0.0,1690.872"}]}]}]}