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And I had the same job","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=2857.67,2860.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/834","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for 30 years. Well, twenty-seven. I mean, how weird is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=2860.76,2865.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/835","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that? Yeah. 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That's the most satisfying thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3472.15,3474.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1004","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And again, I just happened to be the one in the room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3475.81,3478.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1005","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was the program's opportunities that did that and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3478.57,3482.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1006","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it changed the students' lives and you could see","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3482.08,3484.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1007","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that happen right there on the spot. 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That's all the questions I have for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3491.24,3493.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1011","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is there anything else you'd like to add to your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3493.67,3495.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1012","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"oral history?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3495.33,3495.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1013","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think so. This makes me think of all those students,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3498.48,3500.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1014","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, there were probably, what, 3000, 4000 students","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3500.66,3504.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1015","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that graduated in the Honors Program in my--it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3506.01,3508.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1016","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was terrific. 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The seminars","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3515.76,3518.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1019","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"haven't changed. The freshmen seminars haven't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3518.52,3522.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1020","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"changed since I've come in. They're still doing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3522.42,3524.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1021","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the same thing. Still having the retreat Still","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3524.04,3526.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1022","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doing the square dancing. I mean, granted, it's a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3526.8,3528.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1023","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little different with 400. Still an overnight. 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The topics moved","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3536.61,3539.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1026","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through. English, composition, hasn't changed--it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3539.5,3544.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1027","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"still required. So there are certain components","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3544.2,3547.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1028","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that have been consistent throughout the whole","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3547.2,3549.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1029","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time. So whoever put this program together in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3549.36,3553.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1030","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very early piece really knew what they were doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3553.29,3555.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1031","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's also been kind of interesting to stay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3557.16,3560.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1032","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, with that and then to add things like the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3560.83,3562.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1033","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"research and the Student Board got organized and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3562.95,3565.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1034","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=3565.86,3566.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555/transcript/21944/annotation/1035","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right. OK? 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What year were you. I was state professionally and in what role. My professional career has started with the University Honors Program in 1977 and I retired from that position in the honors program in 2004. Then I returned to the honors program as a professional staff member from 2006 to 2007 and that was interim director correct. And were you director of the honors program from 1977. No I started as a coordinator of honors program which would be like us and a program assistant at a low level working with advising students etc. and then over the years and actually when I started it was special programs so I had more than just honors that was just one of the five programs. I had also had women's programs academic advising Classification Office so as the years progressed and honors grew then it became more and more honors and then eventually the title got changed to director. And where did you receive your education. I have my I attended I was University of Iowa for a year and a half from 62 to 64 and then I returned to school in 72 and I returned to I was state I actually went to Iowa State as a high school student in the summer of 60 61 or 60 62. So I already had a transcript when I came back in 1972 and then I graduated with my bachelors in 74 and my masters in 77 and what were those degrees then in history and both of them and in Roman history for my masters. What made you decide to enter your position in the honors. Oh in the special programs I came back to Iowa State as a single parent with two small children and that was in the early 70s and at that time it was not typical in Iowa to be divorced and be a single parent. So Ames or university towns whether it was Ames or Iowa City were more welcoming and a way to single parent families so it was a comfort level that kept me at. In Ames after I got my master's degree but it was also a request from my older son who was tired of being moved from school to school to school. So I looked in the Des Moines Ames area and also this Ames was halfway between both sets of grandparents so the decisions to stay in the area were based upon family considerations or family status but it also had a lot to do in Ames who could connect with the larger metro area. However I was about ready to leave because they didn't think I could find a job here. After something like 14 applications and then I would have gone to either Minneapolis or Kansas City but I got a job in the honors program and I never left. What sort of contact with students did you have through your job. I worked out of one hundred and seventeen year old building. It was when I started and it was then originally a vice president's home on campus so I had a kind of home like atmosphere. When I came in that was the first I came in in January 77 and at that point the honors program had the entire building for a semester they only had I think the top floor or maybe they only had one of the floors. But when you're working out of a home that has 24 hour access for students you are living with them and in the middle of it and the configuration of the house meant that we didn't have a way to separate the administrative offices from the classrooms and the other interactive rooms with students so we essentially were all in there together. A lot of work at nights and on weekends because that's the nature of student work. So it was not uncommon that I would see and interact with students seven days a week and I believe the one with the honors program originally established was originally established as the university on this firm in 1960. So there were college programs before that to family and consumer sciences and agriculture. Each had an honors program but it didn't become a broad university program till 1960. How did you see the honors program grew through the years. When I started in an honors program we had something like 77 freshmen and the freshmen seminars which kind of become the hallmark we're taught typically before I was there it was a faculty member and a student who team taught the seminars. After I came in it actually became two students and one was always the second year teaching assistant and the other one was the first year when I left we had something like 400 or I mean 430 freshmen. And when you're dealing with the class size of twelve we're working with seventy two teaching assistants rather than the twelve teaching assistants they had in 77. Can you tell me a little bit more about the sort of work you did with students and I guess what was your goal as director of the program. The original job description was basically like a student advisor so I advised the student board. I managed the leaders meetings with the students and also staff served as a staff member for the university honors committee which was a faculty committee made up of the chairs of each of the colleges. So in that position I did a lot of the administrative work so I would not be the person who would be going out and actually soliciting the honors seminars that would be the faculty on the university committee my job would be to finish up the administrative work but then we used to. That was all before computers and the electronic technology etc. So in order to come and register for a seminar you had to physically stand in line at the cottage and we would open up registration at 7 o'clock in the morning before classes started and it's not uncommon to see the house filled and people forming a line going out the door down the hill. So that interaction could be students standing in front of us wanting to sign up students signing. We had to sign and drop changed slips all the time. We did informal conversations with him about their degree programs where they wanted to go what their majors might be if it was the student activities. It was you know whether it was an honors week which was at a week long event it focused on honest. Activities student activities. We would do honors banquets etc. So I kind of bridged the gap between serving as an administrative assistant for the faculty and administrative work but then working also directly with the students in honors it's really hard to pull those two groups apart and especially in the days where we all lived and worked in in our cottage together. So it was kind of in the 80s that was still coming out of the 70s where there was less division between students and faculty students had a huge voice coming out of the 70s 60s and 70s in university environment and especially if I was state. And that continued in honors so that the faculty members and honors had were already attuned to listening to the student voice and they did a great job of. Responding to student voices and had that changed by the time you retired. Or I think I had not in the sense that faculty aren't attuned to it but I think there's a different there's a shift in the way students perceive their college education while they're here because they want to get an education and honors continues to promote them in terms of broad liberal education. There's a lot more focus about what's gonna happen to me when I get out of here and there is a more I think we also work on it than channeling a more dedicated path that moves them forward whereas coming in in the late 70s but particularly seeing it in the 80s it was whatever needs to happen to me will happen to me I'm just I'm here and I can take advantage of a lot of opportunities so I think there may have been in a way less folk channeled focus than there is now and because of that. And also I think there's a lot of the change at the time and technology may or may not have a role in this. There's been a distance between what happens with the faculty and students in the early years or in the 80s for sure if students had no qualms about approaching faculty going up to them seeking them out and getting what asking the questions they needed and getting what they want. I think now there may be students may do it but they'll do it over email. Right. They won't walk up to a faculty member they won't go to their office. I think there's that. And so in that sense there's a distance there is less distance because they're instantly accessible but there is more of a distance between the interaction. So for a student to come and see a faculty member now there's a direct invitation to come and see me in my office. Whereas before the student would just plant themselves there and faculty. In my experience especially honors faculty have a very difficult time telling students no can I work on the research team. They have a hard time talking to students so they figure out a way to put the student into the research team whereas now it seems like I'm full. I don't have I don't have any extra room because you're just responding by email right. And so is that you know that student initiated showing up at the door that actually has a real positive benefit for connecting. So Osborn college was successful 24 hours a day. What were the thoughts behind doing that. I mean it seems a little bit unpleasant campus to have a 24 hour access building actually that came out of cat Hall which was originally all Botany which was where the program was housed. The sense was coming out and we were part of the original national movement that moved out of a group it's all directly from the fallout from Sputnik and the concern in the US about Russians the Soviets being ahead of us. And so the push for science and math. That the University Honors Program focused on the broad liberal education that we could educate students well in the disciplines of science and math but university life was also a life of the mind that encompassed larger issues than that. So when you were bringing those colleges together into a University Honors Program the purpose of the 24 hour building is a central gathering place that allows bright motivated students even from different disciplines to come together in a location and have some intellectual interaction and and that it's been I think one of the hallmarks of the honors program and it's clearly a hallmark for honors students which is I may be majoring in chemical engineering or I may be majoring in food science or I may be majoring in political science but. I like being with people who are bright and articulate and interested in other areas. And so putting students together in an environment where they come from the different disciplines and disparate backgrounds has always been positive in terms of raising the energy level. And as a result of that we see students doing things like picking up second majors picking up second degrees going up and getting an emphasis. And we also see students connecting and relationships and ending up getting married. I mean it happens and it's so common to see students even I mean we're accustomed to students forming relationships and dating during that university years. But to end up subsequently getting married. Is not uncommon. And it just happened to me last week. A student who's back in school. From and is now and I think food science or plan she's in one of the AG Sciences came up to me in a restaurant to tell me she was back in school but also that she was engaged to one of the people in her honors seminar her freshman year and they would be getting married in July and they were going. This is just figures. This is what students in the Honors Program they connect in ways that I'm no longer surprised about. And it's because of this ability to mix them all up. So aside from interpersonal connection what else does the honors program offer high ability students or is there more. Well there is more. I mean there's we work now on a more deliberate way to channel students through thinking about the path that they're going to take here in the early earlier years especially coming out of the 70s and maybe to an extent in the 80s. I'm not sure the real issue was getting a bachelor's degree and today you need a bachelor's degree in the right area to follow a path and that's a distinct change. I mean in my time coming through the 70s it was just getting a degree when people how are you they'll train you right now it's you know if you don't have a bachelor's degree in journalism don't apply for a job that requires that they specifically ask for a degree in journalism and therefore there's a lot more focus in channeling. So one of the things we've done and honors has always asked students to think about laying out a plan in a way that is meaningful to them as the rules that have changed in university. There's less and less perhaps curricular flexibility it's harder for students to get a kind of quote personal program put together. There's a lot more. Probably tape that red tape you need to go through to get it and it's all doable. Just takes a little more energy and effort and you need a lot more resource people helping you do it. But that's part of what the honors program does is to have as forces a student to think carefully about what they want to do. And for high ability students who have multiple choices and paths this allows them to do it early enough that they have a kind of integrated way where they can take advance of that multiplicity and abilities. And then maybe fold them in in other ways so that you can stay involved in music. You can stay involved in theater and still be in one of the sciences. So that's one thing is this focus on what your career path and what are the opportunities here. The second thing is engagement and research at a very early point in your career. And that again is one of those things where you put bright students in a research lab and they get to know a faculty and whether or not that was their original intent. It's not uncommon they stay in that lab. They change their nature to work with that faculty member it's all about those connections that you make because honors students could go into multiple labs and do well. It's just finding that connection that gives you some energy to go on and then access to the honors seminars which now in the 80s those seminars actually were offered in the honors program and if they were highly successful or had a broader appeal we had another parallel program that ran called seminar 80s for all students. And so it was not uncommon to see something offered in honors and honors only and offered once and then it would be moved over to a larger arena Holocaust program is one that started in honors and then moved to seminary 80s rock and roll out of the music history art history of rock n roll. You know history of Beatles started there is one on environmental literature that we taught first in the honors program. So those seminars are also a way for faculty to try something out a trial balloon in a way that it may have moved over to open to the university at large which again is an enrollment of 15 to 20 students and then it may have moved into the curriculum. So getting some of those seminars where there you know we're ahead of the game the role of religion in politics I think was being taught this fall. And it turns out that when you look at that in this political campaign you have you have a Mormon and you have a minister you have you know it's just perfect timing. And those are opportunities that are available to other students so that honors pushes the social and the intellectual part of the students lives. OK. You mentioned the changing emphasis from getting the degree to getting the right degree. How did the faculty and staff have to adapt to that change in paradigm. Well you have to accept reality you know. And so what you'd like to say is sure hang around here and spend as much time as you want and then getting a degree here. But that's not fair. One of the other things that came in is the distinct difference between the 80s and now is in addition to focusing on the degree we're also focused on making sure our students have international experience. Right. And that piece may indeed add another semester or so to a student's curriculum. So the goal is not to spend six years in school. The goal is to spend four to five years of school depending on what's going on in your life come up her study abroad experience. And so we had to think about how we still put the flexibility in front of the student but we were we probably as a program actually asked more to the constraints imposed by the department's requirements and in the 70s when I returned to Iowa State there was only one course. That I had to have on my program of study only one three credit course out of one hundred and ninety two credits. The rest was open I had areas in which I had to fill but I didn't have course requirements I didn't have a path that led up to what I was doing. And that over the years that has clearly changed. So if you take it now that I was in history. So that's a little different than being in engineering. But as you move through the decades you see that that. Gets. That. Focus gets. A breadth gets narrowed. But we didn't have technology going. We didn't need to be trained in PowerPoint. And we didn't need to have. We didn't have the use and we were still bear. We were still probably in the mimeograph phase. So there was none of this electronic stuff going on. And as a result as we move more and more into I think through the decades one of the things I've noticed is that the way knowledge and information has expanded or access to information has expanded. That is really probably sensible to begin to channel so that people have some sort of a path that they go through rather than just this kind of open it up and let anybody take what they want. And so we had to recognize that as a program and encourage students to do that honor students however have more energy than a lot of students and they're more motivated. So you can see honor students actually taking more credits on the average. And that's how they fold in that extra step. Not by taking the same number of credits and extending am now we're seeing them taking higher levels of credits. And that's one reason that our rule is that you have up to 21 credits. Right. What 20 credits. And so we give you that flexibility without having your advisor or the registrar's system shut you down. So I have two of my interviews so far have mentioned you. One was Elizabeth Andre and one was Manute people voting and both were I guess enthusiastic about the impact that you'd made on their life from their experiences student. You know it was partially your encouragement to get involved and really take some initiative that really pushed them into greater things. I guess how how do you view your personal interactions with students and how do you push people to excel. Well certainly both my duvet and Elizabeth were outstanding students. I don't actually think I pushed them. And I think they would have done it anyway. But I think what you do is give a student permission to do it. In the case of Mondo Bay she kept coming to lectures I kept seeing your hang around lectures. And finally I told the director of elections committee you pay attention to the student she's shown up way a lot. So we probably need to invite her on the committee and in the case of Medupi. I think in my experience I've only known one other student who had the same level and array and depth of intellect that Medupi had and she had it as an 18 year old which was pretty unbelievable. So she just got permission to just give him permission to do this stuff. Good. Keep going. Don't push him as much as act interested in the case of Elizabeth. She had an exam. She was a she's she kind of had this stuff I was talking about and honors. She was highly energetic. She was multidisciplinary. She was motivated. She was also self driven self-propelled. And most of her students are self-propelled. And so the job is not to push them. The job is to help them find out which of their past most excites. And Elizabeth took a very interesting sheet. If you take a look at her life it's all linear but you wouldn't know it if she was going through it. You were going. Is she going to land somewhere. Where is she landing. But when you look at what she's actually doing it's exceptionally linear do paces to do it in the toupee was I mean she is so grounded in her understanding of her discipline and self for Medupi her ability is to pull in just a whole array of information that doesn't even look like it's connected and she pulls it in and makes it connected. And I've done some brief work with her when she was director of the Colorado Historical Association and I was in Denver doing some work out there. And once again I'm thinking she's just amazing. She sees connections that most people don't connect. And then you do a lot more research in there right there. There are a lot of students like that. And so I think that while they may think I was their motivator or I was I just think I was the person who gave them permission. And I think that it's not me as much as the honors program gave them permission to do this stuff. And that's what opened it up for them because they didn't need push. So part of that's what I think the role of the honors program is and as the person who had a significant charge to make the program work although it doesn't work alone. By me it was clearly. The previous office the vice president's office whatever it was term the 80s it was the vice president for academic affairs. Ed Lewis was my boss and he so believed in the honors program and he'd been there from day one and the 80s almost day one that we had exceptional support to let this happen. The fact that he came in and met with his seminar leaders every Thursday and Friday and got to know them had a lot to do with those students feeling as if the program mattered. And then our job as administrators and faculty was to just be there when they needed help. And most of their help was sorting through options. So it's a program that really gave them the opportunities and it wasn't. It was a team effort in terms of the faculty because no one person could deal with these kinds of students. They're all over the boards are terrific. And they're all still going off doing unbelievable things. So you know I I met with one of our students Mike Kern who's now chief operating officer at a power technology I think used to be I was in film talks about his experience. I was staying in and he said hey business owners graduate and they're going off to a Rotary and being in the global market. They're doing it on their own and we're just giving them the right information and the right opportunities to to move forward. OK let's if we can focus a little bit on the actual students of the 80s and students of today. Now you already mentioned since the 80s would approach faculty more often and maybe because of the lack of technological action they were forced to bridge the gap. Are there other specifics about students in the 80s that come to mind. Well I think in a way we saw them as less in the 80s we perhaps saw them as less assertive than those in the 70s. And that comes from my being a student here in the 70s. I don't know. I mean I was in some classes in the 70s that they. The time the students were confronted by the faculty I was in a lot of political theory classes. I was here during Watergate and subsequently. So that certainly we weren't you know Harvard Cambridgeshire others but we we had students who had different political views and didn't accept what was going on in the classroom quietly or calmly. But those were great intellectual exercises. Didn't see that going on in the 80s and see even less of it now in the 80s. As students we had what we call them the honors program fireside forums and they were held within winter quarter Friday afternoons we were still on the quarter system. Well. From. Some of it and those were conversations that that went from three to five on Friday afternoon in the wintertime and brought a fire in the fireplace we had a faculty member come in and we would be and we would advertise these with us for the quarter. And the room would fill. I don't think that would happen today. So one of the first ones that we had this was in the seventies was a professor in physics who gave a lecture on the precision of the language used by Roman by romance poets relative to Newtonian physics. It was unbelievable it was one of the most remarkable lectures discussions I've ever heard. Any put the formulas. Well he also used Einstein. He put the language of the poets up against the formulas and talked about the precision in each. And there was a huge discussion and I remember there were two Kimmy's in there that were really having a large discussion with him about this. I don't think it would happen today. I don't. I mean that happened in the eighties too. We went through. I don't think that would happen today. I think if we offered something three to five on Friday afternoon we'd be sitting there by ourselves. And that's kind of the nature students are a lot more busy now. Again I think technology plays a role in that. They have. Access to a lot more information a lot more opportunities to go do things. I don't think many of them would come in and sit down. They might do it on a Monday but I doubt seriously if they do it Friday three to four just they actually just start a book club. That's Tuesday nights. Now I don't know when the move when the television program friends started was that just in the 90s. I think so because H.S. B changed their meeting time to like seven forty five. So everybody could watch friends from seven to seven thirty and then they would come and meet me. So it used to be at seven. But no friends became the focus when I started the student board met Saturday mornings at eight o'clock. That would never I mean that was in the 70s that would never happen today. And I was there. That was my job to be there. We didn't have honors housing though until I think the 80s. And that made a huge shift in honors population. We had a beginning one and it was over on a in a residence hall. It's no longer standing. It's called Nelson House and the students were very clear that they did not want honors only up there. So the original plan was not to have just honor students. And there was a huge application that you had to go through and a review by the board of that floor stair on the top floor of the building. And it was sweet living over in Westgate at that point. And the students I mean that's one of the difficulties we've had with honors housing is when someone doesn't make the grades. And we have to boot them off the floor and that's always painful was painful on both sides of that equation. But the Nelson house they combined and they had honors and non honors so I think there's a certain percentage of the floor that had to be honors and then they moved from that area on the west campus over to Anders Harwood was the first and then Anders and then we moved into clusters to try and resolve this roommate issue. But on housing it's been exceptionally successful. One of the issues was to not let the honors houses form a click that made the other students who couldn't get in. Feel like they were on the outside but I don't think that's been a real problem. I think there is great competition between Harvard Manders but it's always been in the nature of enjoyment. It's not been it's never gotten beyond the point of healthy competition between the two. And I know tonight is a big challenge because we're coming on Clyde tonight we'll see how be and also saw you generally wanted to and. Clyde Anderson we have all these challenges victories for five years now. I also think you take a look at. And I don't know about Mark. This is Starbucks that they actually will be fronting their first take you team this year. So now you've got you may have a real competitor in the arena with a launch Russell which is a cluster to came in third last year. So we should probably be funding cake. So what I know. I mean these this is so typical of honor students who like the competition like the fun. It does not work for you it's a big game. It's always the game. So Calliope quiz is a formalized game whereas the rest of your study is also how well can we do. I was archiving some of the old Parliament House books and there was a quote in there from professors that said if you read all the if you didn't read any of the books and still came to class you want to be an idiot you'd be an honor student. Oh really. I think it can. That sounds. The only reason that there are honors students that they kind of have that sort of work ethic. Yeah. And actually that student is now the head. No he's there. He's a senior and the army he's retired anesthesiologist he. He was a student who took a business class just to show his fraternity brothers that you didn't have to be a business major and you didn't have to go to class. This was before the College of Business. So he bought the book the day before the midterm and took the test and got a B plus. And it did not make him. He was not well received by his fraternity brothers as a result. And he said I think I made a mistake by doing that. But we do know that there are a lot of I mean honor students you're just bright you you pick up information in a variety of ways. It's good to be in a classroom. But part of the seminar concept is not to have a lecture let you go on and find the information on your own and then to put it together. And faculty now that when you're dealing with honors students you need to stay at least three chapters ahead of them. And I also have an anecdote about a professor who was teaching honors class and he was relatively new on campus he was in chemical engineering was teaching class and they were talking about refrigeration. And in the back of the room with this student raising his hand. And the professor finally called on this to students and well this may be just fine. But you know down the road don't you think we might want to be worried about the CFC et cetera and the faculty member says Here I am just trying to teach a course I don't know about one chapter ahead. I've got an honor student in the back of the room who's thinking 20 to 25 years ahead of me. And so when he tells used to tell that story in front of other potential honors faculty he helped encapsulate what it meant to be working with an honors student. Don't assume that you're leading them. They may indeed be leading you. And so we just kind of make that assumption. And one of the things that happens is the way we set up our honors program that sorts out for those students if you don't continue to make these steps to progress ahead you have self sorted that you don't have that kind of initiative you don't have that general drive. And that's what makes this on the output side. We're pretty sure of our graduates but the decision at the university and I would state has always been to keep the door open wide because you don't know how well a student is going to do when they transition from high school to college. And there's a lot to say about connections and those connections are the ones that help students move through and find a path to stay in honors a lot of students do very well and could be an honors they've just chosen not to for a variety of reasons. And those students are very good but we know what our what graduates look like they've already self identified all the way through the program and don't think you're going to be I mean the best thing I've always said to faculty members is you should think about designing a class where you give the students a problem that you want solved but don't give them a lot of instructions on how to solve it. And then just stand back and wait and see what happens because she'd be stunned. I mean the more guidelines you put out the less flexibility you're going to give them just stand back and see what happens. They won't disappoint you do you think so honors aims to give more breadth as well as depth to to a degree program. But students who transition more and more to being worried about what happens after college. Is it tougher to. Get people to buy into the idea of the program. You know I don't think so because nationally my job right now and has been since 2000 three has to been to work with this on the national level so I'm looking at how I was stay works relative to eight hundred and fifty four other institutions. And our system is pretty darn good. I think what we see is more students are now stepping into graduate level classes than perhaps before. And but again it is it because in the in the 80s they may have been able to skip some lower level courses but and go up to a graduate level. But now we see them taking more courses to get to the graduate level. And we need to work carefully in there because one of the discussions is depending on where they're going to graduate school with that's counted on their undergraduate transcript it may not be counted toward graduate school so we try to work carve it out. And because honors students have more than enough credits to graduate we're able to do that so they can start out ahead. And that's the depth piece that we get and it can as knowledge has expanded. These students can go through some of this other material more quickly and they need to get a third of the graduate level program. The breadth issue is probably narrowed a lot from the 80s so it's more prescribed in terms of what actual courses you have to take right in outside your discipline. Since international perspectives and U.S. diversity require breadth but it also I mean there are certain. Courses you choose from certain unless and while those courses may be good there are other ways to get international perspectives and taking a course going and living in a country for a few months is probably as good or better than taking a three credit course on. Different literatures right. You're not going to know the same range but you're going to have a wholly different experience that and living in it than you would of just studying a breath of blood. That's not to say that's not good. I always say. That's not good. You know having to figure out how to eat boiling water with noodles for three weeks with no variety is a real experience. For those of us who are accustomed to the variety in our daily meals I would agree. Day 20 you're going I need a little more variety here and that's a big cultural experience that you wouldn't find. And of course because you can't force a student to eat noodles three times a day for three weeks of poverty gets closer. And sometimes I suppose that when the noodles. But there's still one thing that I'm for mentioned a lot on more recent students as a phenomenon of the helicopter parent. Did you ever have to deal with that. We did. And but not huge. It was not a huge thing. In fact in the 80s maybe you get. One every other year or at least we did. And part of you know coming out of the 70s or maybe the 60s there's a lot now you can't tell parents that before you know there weren't rules about. Disclosure and now there are clear rules about disclosure where you can tell parents. But one of our when that happens our question is always inside the staff and the arts program. We're not quite certain who's going to college here. The parent or the student. And so we're pretty focused on the student mainly because we see in this population and the Irish populations we say we it's not uncommon to see the student carrying the parents expectations. And it's not uncommon for a student to come in in the middle of fall semester and say I don't want to be an engineer I want to be to that. And that's one of the jobs we've had and that's one of the jobs I've always had is how a student is going to tell their parents I don't want to be a doctor I want to be a kindergarten teacher my experience is the parents have been fine. The student is more terrified of telling his parents because the parents and the school and everybody else has talked about what a bright future they'll have. But the student left electrical engineering and went to graphic design the student left premed in my elementary education the student who left mechanical engineering his senior year and went into animal science for that man. The parents have all. Gone along and and that's you know that the helicopter parent doesn't operate or didn't in the 80s didn't even in 2000 or with my previous experience to the extent that I think it operates in a general. There are. Helicopter parents around and I think for me personally to deal with them is to deal with them. As. A parent and the step parent of six children and I've seen just about the whole range. So there's a when I talk about I think your student is fine let's just stand back and see what happens in my eyes. Here if you want to talk but I can't give you any information you students by and nature. We generally don't have a problem. Not like Wells and hearing and those helicopter parents have now moved into the job market with their. Students. Really. So the the word is they're negotiating their child's salaries. They're interviewing the companies to make sure they're the right company for their student to interview with that does not fly with me quite frankly. But we're you know I think laws protect us from a lot of that too. Even when a student is in trouble serious trouble. Not academically but personally it needs a lot of help. I think that we're in the honors program. We've been trained to make sure we get the right professional help for them. That's not what we do. And then we're kind of out of the loop because the dean the students or the resident assistant or somebody else is the one that notifies the student. The student comes back into our realm and the parents concern. We can't really relay issues that we can help the student. I mean we're well aware of that and we can provide resources so we can continue to check on the student but we can't release information to the parents. Right. So easy for us to do. It's frustrating probably for the parents. We've never we've never lost a student because parents thought we were inappropriate. Even if we've had to tell them to back off. Yes OK. Are there any other differences between the generations that you can think of. Yeah. Well I think I think is the difference. One of the differences could be that today's students are a little more concerned about a longer time out what's going to happen. I think in the 80s you assume you're used to and there's still the time where you assumed you weren't going to have five or six different jobs. You said you were going to go to work so you probably need to think about how many careers you were going to have to have. And I think in today's world students are much more aware of career changes and how those changes how they need to be prepared for those. I think that makes it a little scarier going out there because you know you're going to get a job but your thought is not I'm going to be here for 30 years your thought is will what next. And that seems to me that there is less of an engagement in where you are. But I think that's the reality of the world. And I have the same job for 30 years. Twenty. Seven. I mean how. Weird is that. Yeah. Things changed in the job I essentially have. I've had the same. I reported that same boss for 22 years. How unusual is that. And so I'm part of that culture in which probably the last generation that that happened to and the subsequent generations is thinking about. You know I've got this boss now. Who's my next boss going to be and even if they stay in the same job their bosses will change. And I think a lot of it has to do with the way you do business and technology is changing the way you do business whether you're a historian or whether you're in sales marketing and that's a big difference and I think the way students come. The other thing is is that when I look at what you need today to get a job and to do well it isn't necessarily a university education. And that was kind of an assumption up until the mid 70s maybe even later that you needed a university education you had to have a technology against change. So that if you move into a sector that utilizes technology university training doesn't necessarily get you the better job. I think it makes you more satisfied with life in general. But I'm not telling you it's necessarily going to get you. I don't think if you're writing a computer program I could be wrong computer program as a university graduate. I have a son who's a technical school graduate and doing quite well I might add. And doing the same thing that a computer science and making more money than I make and doing and very happy because he also has the opportunity to do some freelance as a result of that in the music area. So he has some learning disabilities in university education wasn't appropriate for him. He happens to have a whole different way of learning and it isn't through reading through listening and he's in this world. This is the presidential caucuses and primaries we're going through and CNN and all of it. He's right in the mix with everybody else because those sound bites that aural hearing is paying off for him whereas I'm still tied to the print media and that's I think a big difference between the 80s and 2000 is you've got to be able to talk. Take in information in multiple ways. Do you think that the technology has really been a positive influence in the classroom. Absolutely. And I know that. I mean anything to access is not good. But I just it just seems to me that to deny the positive aspects of this is to take away some really great pluses. And one of that is just instant access to information. So for collide quiz to get an answer in the 1980s they had to call up the Los Angeles Public Library that was already you know it was like getting a phone in there where they could make a long distance call to the public library on a credit card to get an answer. Today you just go out on the computer and find the answer. So the differences between hauling in boxes of books or having to call a reference librarian and going online and finding it yourself. I think that's great. I don't see the computer and going out on the web. That's just like having the huge library right there at your fingertips. It's like any other library it's how you choose to use the information how you think selectively about where you go. And at the national level for university for the National Collegiate honors council we just had a board meeting and we're having a discussion which is not resolved about whether or not we would connect on Wikipedia because and the group is split the 25 member board is split on the legitimacy of Wikipedia. That was not a conversation in the 80s. Right. But you know do we. Is that a way for people to learn about us for students to learn about us. If this goes up in say Peterson's guide to college honors programs does that help us or some people think that because maybe Wikipedia has some issues that may not be positive. We don't want to be visible on that. And so these are kind of dilemmas that we're working through but we know that online information reaches the students and the rest of us want a 450 page book which is not feasible. So they haven't resolved it that with that gap table because we ran out of time but I mean 25 people from around the nation who run honors programs debating the role of technology and how we work with it as college honors programs. And the answer will be this will be a conversation will be moot in five years because it will be so it will be something else. So I think tech is great. I'm not very good at it but I certainly it's no different than the printing press and how the printing press revolutionized the way knowledge got disseminated. This is the same thing. It's another tectonic shift in information. Some of us are just back left on the other side. So let's worry that maybe twenty five can already be behind. Well and one of the things that continually is is talked about is you know what we're teaching students at this time in their life as freshmen may be not important when they're seniors is. So the thing is to teach students at the university level how to think how to understand what the problem is how to understand where they are relative to that problem how they see the solutions and how you put them together. That's what we ought to be teaching at the university and I think that's what honors is really focused on all right. What would you say is the biggest change that you've seen in the university in the past 30 years. Technology clearly access probably for a number of students. But you know again I'm not while I'm very bonded to university life. I don't think it's the I think it's not the only niche for a successful career a highly successful innovative fulfilling career for a lot of really bright students. But I think the role and technology in the wake is utilized and especially not only in the information area but especially in the research area. The advances that biotech and technology and the way we share that information in the global world is huge absolutely huge. And it was done to some extent in the 80s but it's it's the internet that's just changed everything. And that to me is the biggest change and it changes the students who come in here because they come in with that background. It isn't like they're being taught this stuff they already know it and they're ahead of us. And so there are some students and some people who are on such a leading edge of technology that we're behind the curve when they get here. So that would be my books and I think it changes our student body into it. And my final question is what is your most memorable interaction with the student or most high up on the list. It can be hard to think one you know meeting with students in general or just a student. Either one. Well I don't think I can. I don't think I can identify one but there is a point when you're dealing with students and it's happened a number of times where just something in the conversation either there's a way a student lights up or there is a shift in their demeanor or something and you just know that that's that's a point where their life just changed. And it isn't it can and it isn't anything that I did it was just listening and set in and being open. I mean just listening and giving them permission and to watch that shift happen. And it's happened a number of times. And when I walk out of that that or I leave that conversation or I'm thinking about it at the end of the day it happens enough often enough that there honestly wasn't a day that I didn't want to come to work. I mean it was so satisfying to work with honor students. It was so satisfying to know that students are open to that kind of stuff and all you have to do is be present. And those are the pieces where you know that you watched something happen that would make a difference in that students life. That's the most satisfying thing. And again I just happen to be the one in the room. It was the program's opportunity that did that and it changed the student's lives and you could see that happened right there on the spot. It just changed their lives. And you thought well this is what it's all about all right. That's all the questions I have for you is there anything else you'd like to add to your oral history. I don't think so. We think of all those students and you know probably one 3000 4000 students graduating in the honors program and my two. It was terrific. I mean it was they were great students and the fact that. There are a lot of things in here that never changed. The seminars haven't changed. The freshmen seminars haven't changed since I've come in. They're still doing the same thing. Still having the retreat still doing the square dancing. I mean granted it's a little different with 400 still an overnight the honors seminars for upper class students are still the same. Nothing's changed. The topics moved through English composition hasn't changed it's still required. So there are certain components that have been consistent throughout the whole time. So whoever put this program together in the very early piece really knew what they were doing. And that's also been kind of interesting to stay. You know with that and then to add things like the research in the Student Board got organized and that was great. All right. OK. Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1272/collection_resources/35520/file/104555#t=0.0,4450.27265"}]}]}]}