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My name is Kevin Vandy. I want to welcome everyone here on behalf of the Institute of World Affairs and myself. Before I start, I want to inform you about some of the things that are going to happen later on today. The first thing is at 3.00 p.m, there'll be a film right here in this room and it's entitled Vietnam, when the night comes, excuse me. Then, we'll also be discussing the effects of Vietnam's new economic policies. Later on at 8.00 p.m., there'll be a speaker, Joseph Collins, who will be talking on the Philippines after Marcos. Now, I'd like to introduce our speaker, Mr. Don Lewis. He received his bachelor of science from the University of Vermont, on agricultural economics. He also received his master's degree from the Cornell university on egg development. He's a very rich and diverse person and he's spent much time in Vietnam over the last 30 years. I guess he's just reposted. He's just returned from a stay from that country during October. Mr. Lewis is well-known for his bringing to attention the tiger cage prisons of the Saigon government with the help of our own records and our own senator, Tom Hawkin, who was at that time in aid to Congressman Neil Smith He's also co-author of many books and he's written and edited many books of poetry. Currently, he's also director of Asian Affairs, Washington D.C. During the film tonight this afternoon, Mr. Lewis will be answering questions and also have this art display there that he has here currently. He wrote this, the script for this movie and he is... And this was originally during a trip he took to Vietnam and he... And so now I'd like to introduce our speaker and he's gonna be talking on the green revolution and multinationals of the Pacific. So, I want you all to give Mr. Lewis a warm welcome.\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] I understand most of the time, I'm the green revolution but before I do that, I'd like to do some advertising for the film at three. I'm now on my way back from between Hanoi and Buffalo, this is my stopover on my way home. And I had lots of baggage of stuff from Vietnam. So, I spread a little bit of it out over here and you may wanna just clench this as you walk out. It's a few items that I brought back for an exhibit that our organization, the Asian Resource Center, has on. We call it the plows, plows swords into plowshares. Sorry, I'm still under jet lag but we have about two or 300 different items ranging from the kinds of things you see here which are mostly made out of recast brass shells, artillery shells. Most of these are from the war in Campuchia or from the Chinese border where Vietnam is still at war in both places. A lot of the other stuff comes from the what we call the Vietnam war, what the Vietnamese called the American war from back, back in those days. But it also goes back to world war two with, for example a table cloth made out of a parachute that somebody dropped in the Philippines and so on. And then on my left, I just hung up three or four block prints which are now made into scrolls. When I was in Vietnam this time, I was staying in a small village where they have been making these block prints for over a thousand years now. It's a skill that is passed from a mother and father down to son and daughter and so on down through the last 10 centuries. And these are... Some of these are new but these, most of these are fairly old. It's also interesting on the middle ones you can see the old Vietnamese script and so... But anyway, if people are interested in Vietnam today, I would really urge you to come and see the film at three this afternoon. It was currently one of the awards at the Houston International Film festival and we're really proud of it and hope you come. Now, switching to what I'm supposed to be talking about, the green revolution. My field as was said in the beginning is, was agriculture. So, I was trained in and grew up on a farm in Vermont, went to Vietnam in 1958 on the 9th of November and stayed there for about 13 years until I was kicked out for going with your now your senator to Con Son Island and doing the expose on the tiger cages. At that time, I was working with sweet potatoes back in 58 bringing about 30 varieties of sweet potatoes into Vietnam, testing them against the local varieties and then doing extension work in the villages. Out of the concern out of working with villagers in Vietnam, I've developed a real deep concern about the whole question of the green revolution. Many of Vietnam's scientists were trained for example, at Los Banos in the Philippines where the Ford foundation and Rockefeller foundation have worked for many many years on development of miracle varieties of rice. So, I'm going to concentrate particularly on the green revolution and rice and then go into multinationals and their connection to the green revolution which I hope I can make. I wanna begin with concerns about the green revolution and then talk about how I think it could be used more effectively and also talk about the multinational sort of effect from green revolution. My concern is basically this. The green revolution and most of the miracle varieties of crops have the advantage of producing much more than the traditional varieties. If you use in a fertilizer, insecticide and irrigation water. I put a very simple chart up here. I figured if I was at Iowa state, I should at least put some charts and graphs up. If you come from Cornell, you're always a bit intimidated by Iowa state's department of economics, egg economics. But anyway, just in very simple terms, if you look at traditional varieties of rice and this is simplifying it to basically no matter how much you put in the weight of inputs, you get about the same yield. In other words, they're not responsive to fertilizer or irrigations. Miracle variety of rice, on the other hand, if you don't use the inputs, you'll produce almost nothing. If you use a lot of inputs, then you get a tremendous response and increase in yield. Now, if you have a hundred hectares of land and the resources to buy the fertilizer, the insecticide and the irrigation, then the miracle varieties of rice and other crops are great. The problem in Vietnam or Thailand or the Philippines or other developing countries is that if you are a small farmer, you can't afford the fertilizer and the irrigation and the insecticide. And so you go into debt or you sell your farm to one of the multinational, the agribusiness corporations. It's almost that simple. One of the problems in the third world also is that your debt... The interest rates on money borrowed are so high that by the time you get your crop, you've already spent all your money on interest rates. Now, if you go to Thailand, for example, in the month of April and you go to the train station there at about five o'clock in the morning, you will see them unloading children. It's almost that simple. They are what are called fishermen. And these are people who go into the North East which is poorest part of Thailand, meet with families and hire a daughter, usually a daughter, for a specific period of time like six months or a year. The family needs the money which they get approximately $50 to survive, to keep the farm. The fisherman or fisherwoman, whatever you want to call this person, will collect maybe six or eight. They are brought to Bangkok and then are sold. The best looking ones go to work in the bars or brothels, the, in quotes, the smartest ones go to work as domestic servants and the strongest ones go to work in the factories, small factories, big factories, and so on. From the perspective of the small farmer in the North east, they really feel they have no alternative because the price of rice, partly because of this kind of formula is going down. They have to either produce more rice and salad which they really can't because they were they've gone into debt and they have to pay off their debt. So, their kids ended up in the cities. And this is where you get the the multi-national connection. One minute, before I get to that I just wanted to add one other complexity for the farmers. And that is that where you have it agribusiness, for example, a pineapple plantation. One of the other problems that this whole question of Agra... I don't know how you can say that the agribusinessization or whatever you want to call it of agriculture has been that as you've got larger farms using more insecticides, they runoff from the insecticides goes into the irrigation water, which goes into the rice paddies, which kills the frogs and the fish, which are among the major sources of protein for the small farmers. So, I argue that while the green revolution has been a tremendous boon to agribusiness and to wealthy farmers, it has been one of the major causes of the urbanization and the breakdown of the family farm in the third world. And you could also argue the same thing in the United States. Well, that's a different argument which I won't get into now. So, all of this has become, I would argue, great for the multinational corporation because it provides a cheap source of labor for the factories which are leaving the United States and particularly deadly in the United States have gone to the third world and set up business. From a multinational perspective, all of this is great. First of all, you look at it from a wage perspective. The average wage say in Thailand or Philippines and so on, particularly in the Philippines, would at best be like $100 a month. The best you could do in the United States is probably $1000 a month for factory workers. So, if you take a small factory of a thousand workers, what you're dealing with in terms of labor cost is $100,000 dollars a month in Thailand and $1000,000 a month in Des Moines. So, you'd have a saving of what? $900,000 a month times 12, you're talking about $10,000,000 a year for a small factory by moving it. You also have a lot of other side advantages in terms of sending your factory to the third world. For example, one of the problems that many factories face is the kinds of chemicals they can use. There are almost no laws against the misuse of chemicals in the third world, so that in the manufacturing process, you can use chemicals that are not legal in the United States. You can use them in the third world. Just a very simple example. This is a few years ago, I was in a Gaucho in Taiwan in one of the computer chip type factories. In the process, they have a special kind of wash that they have to use using a sort of a chemical wash. Along the wall, they had several barrels of a chemical called chlorophyll new and you, which I later laid by Dow chemical. I later looked up in the U.S and found that it is illegal for use in this country. So, for the the factory can send it to Taiwan. And, it's more efficient in terms of cleansing the equipment at the same time. On the side of it, they had an English for workers who didn't read English but it was written, \"Caution fumes from this chemical, \"if breathed, may cause death\" with no translation at all. So, you have a big advantage in terms of the kinds of chemicals you can use in the third world. Second reason or another reason, a third reason really, you've got the economic, the chemicals. The third reason, of course, is that strikes are illegal. And even if they weren't illegal, the families in the third world can't afford to take the risk of striking and losing their jobs. So, you have an economics, or you have a work workers' stability there that you wouldn't have here. So again, all of this is great for the multinational corporation and it shows the real close connection between the miracle variety, the green revolution and the modernization of agriculture which is pushing people off from their farms and the high profits of the multinational corporations which are making use of the laborers when they get into the cities. I want to follow up in terms of what happens in this country as far as particularly poor Americans are concerned in the obviously advantages to the corporations are obvious. What I argue we ought to deal with as a country is the disadvantages to the average American person. I mean, first of all, as we export our factories to the third world, we are exporting our jobs. That's obvious. If a textile factory leaves New England, a thousand jobs are lost in new England and sent abroad. The second problem which is a growing problem in the United States is that, as a country, we are destroying our tax base. Because each time one of these corporations leaves the U.S, a major part of our tax base is sent abroad. And so that we have less money to for education and roads and that sort of thing. It is also one of the major contributing factors to our national debt. The third problem that is causing us in particularly in terms of our taxes and in terms of the international stability is that in order to protect the multinationals, the U.S ends up protecting the dictators that support the policies that I've been talking about. In areas, I would argue the reason why the U.S ended up in supporting Marcos for so many years is that that he made it possible for the multinationals to year after year after year both force foreign people offering their lands and to imprison labor leaders now who were protesting bad working conditions in the Philippines. So, our support of dictators abroad again is a major drain in terms of our defense budget and in terms of the military contributions that we send to dictators abroad. I want to switch gears now for a minute. And then in a couple of minutes, sort of open it up for your frustrations or anger, is what I'm saying, and it has to express your own views. But I wanted to just take a couple of minutes to talk about what I would argue would be a much better approach, first in terms of the green revolution and secondly in terms of multinationals. When I was studying agriculture, the major emphasis of the extension department at Cornell and at the university of Vermont was and I suspect it's been the same at Iowa state was that if you help the best farmer, the poor farmers will see your ideas and adopted them. This has not worked and never will, but that has been the philosophy of agricultural colleges ever since the land grant college system was developed. I would argue that rather than developing this kind of a curve, that what we ought to do is to put it an emphasis on something like this, putting that in in a much more concrete terms in my own area of sweet potatoes, it means rather than, well, sweet potatoes are not a very good example because of the difficulties of hybridization insight, which is the green revolution. But if you take rice, for example, rather than developing the hybrid varieties of rice, this is one of the problem, by the way, for small farmers is that most small farmers save their seed and plant it year after year after year. But if you do that with high grit with the miracle varieties, in almost all cases, your production goes down, down, down, down over the years. If you use traditional varieties than... and particularly the farmers will select the better looking years of corn and so on then your production will at least stay level. What I would argue is instead of developing and putting your emphasis on the hybrid or miracle varieties, we opt to as agriculturalists work with the traditional varieties and find and use local practices of the poorer farmers and try to lift your curve up and perhaps a smaller amount. But what you're doing is helping the smaller farmer. You're giving more stability to the family farm and you're making it possible for them to continue to make a living on a small farm. Now, if your money comes from the corporations, you're gonna run into problems in doing that. And I think that's been one of the problems of agricultural research. And so it isn't so much of the money and so much of the power at government levels and university levels comes out of the corporations. But if you're concerned is the family farm, if you're concerned is the poorest people, then you opt to begin to concentrate on improving methods and varieties for the small farmer. And you can do it with probably even less resources than in the development of miracle varieties. The second thing I wanted to say in terms of the multinationals and in terms of our own country is we opt to develop as a country regulations and laws that would stay phrase simply, first of all, that products that are banned in the United States cannot be exported to other countries. I remember this is going back to the late 1960's working with refugees in Vietnam and being asked to distribute a diet soda to Vietnamese refugees who were starving. And I remember the argument, I mean, I was saying, \"This is not going to do them any good.\" And the aid advisor was saying, \"Well, it's not gonna do them any harm. And I was saying, \"Well, it's not gonna do them any good.\" And there's like two five-year-old kids arguing. And finally, \"No, he said, well, \"who'll give them something to do \"with their time and they'll like it\" But if you look at that from the corporation perspective, this was a diet drink that had been banned because of cyclamates. The corporation was able to get a major tax write-off by making a donation for Vietnam. Did that, maybe an extreme example, but it's a real example. And it's about happens over and over and over. That in Thailand, for example, Depo-Provera which is a birth control injection that's been banned in this country is distributed as a birth control manager in Thailand. And in the early years before it became publicized, women who agreed to get the shots of Depo-Prevora, we'd get a free chicken. And the women who were very poor would come back and get them, you know, very often because they needed. If you have a choice between a chicken for your family today and possible cancer in 15 years versus no chicken for your family and you're hungry, you probably go for the chicken and take your chance. So, I'd argue that if products are not good enough to be used in this country, we shouldn't export them to the third world and sit like that. Those laws could be made. Some of those laws exist, but we've got to do a lot of more work on making sure that they're carried out. Second thing is I would argue that as a country we should develop laws and very strict laws that put limitations on imports such as the United States would not import cloth made by children, for example, under eight years old or under 10 years old. I mean but let's make some regulations so that we, as a country, don't end up in that kind of exploitation of people in the third world. And I have one other point and I lost my... Here are my glasses. Well, that's basically my... What I wanted to throw out. And I'd like to now see if there are questions, disagreements, ideas. Yes.\r\n\r\n- On the last point, you said United States can ban contemporary skills that were produced in an immoral view, something like that.\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] Yeah. Basically.\r\n\r\n- But how are you going to monitor these things without greater intervention in this smaller country?\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] One of the questions, in terms of, interfering in the internal affairs of another country. First of all, the... When Van Heusen shirts goes to Thailand, that is a kind of interference and follow those practices such as usage, use of say eight year old children in the manufacture of your shirts. And that is an interference. When we support the Thai military in the arrest and imprisonment of Thai labor leaders now who are working for a better working conditions, that is an interference. I would argue that if we didn't interfere militarily in the affairs of the third world, then workers in those countries would demand better working conditions and you would not have the problem to the same degree that you have now. So, that we are interfering. We have to deal with that. Then the question will... The other part of the question is in short, then what you say is correct that it doesn't involve a certain kind of interference. I would argue that at least it's positive. The rich in Thailand are not going to be appreciative of that kind of interference because they're making money on the sale of those shirts. In the short run, it is going to be very hard for a lot of people that that raises a lot of the questions that are raised visavis South Africa, how we deal with corporations that work in South Africa, for example, but I understand your point and it's a difficult one. In the back.\r\n\r\n- What you're proposing would require any effect quotas on production from a country that produces in a way we feel are not right in the case of textiles from an eight year old, they could easily have one factory with eight year old producing textile for their own consumption, or some other place and ship out textile made from, made by adult which wouldn't solve the problem unless you would say, unless you reform your whole textile industry. And I heard another speaker tell us that quotas on imports of manufacturing goods from third world would be the worst plan that we can do regarding the environment because those factories are providing employment for people which is definitely needed. Otherwise, they would go out and burn jungles in Brazil or destroy or all those environmental thing. How would you respond to that?\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] Well, first of all, I think there was a lot of issues that are coming up. All thrown together but trying to sort out a couple of the issues. First of all, the point I forgot to make good with stress in response to both of your questions. And that is that the first thing I think that the U.S has to stop doing is to support dictators that are protecting the multinationals from their own people. I think this is particularly true, for example in South Korea right now, so the local people are not able to form unions, effective labor unions. And they're not able to form, to work for child labor laws, as an example. The second thing that we have to, particularly in the agricultural world, have to deal with is the policies that the universities here and abroad have promoted that have pushed for the agribusiness farms that have been pushing people off from their farms and into the cities where they serve as a cheap source of labor. And the third thing, though, that I argue is that you have to begin to develop in some way and I'm not arguing for quotas. I'm saying that you don't buy goods that are produced below certain minimal standards, and I certainly agree with both of you that, that has a lot of problems. One of them being what you said that you have a factory that produces for export and another factory that produces for for local consumption. But, do you have a better idea?\r\n\r\n- I guess the statement based on the that the fact we are needed for employment, and perhaps as you say, might be the problem at the moment nationally from their land, so they do go on with the slashing more jungle.\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] Yeah. And that the people in that we going back to your question... Your point about interference in the affairs of other countries, and that is that the United States stop protecting the dictators that are imprisoning the labor leaders and those kinds of questions. Yeah. In the cray.\r\n\r\n- The real reason\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] There's a lot to that. I don't know what the figures are now that used to be that we were 6% of the world's population and used half of the world's resources, I'm not sure the exact figure. But the problem with that argument is that it doesn't separate out between the corporation owners and their levels and standards of living and the poor people in this country. What I'm arguing is that our present system mounted the export of our multinational factories. And that sort of thing is good for the owners of those corporations. And probably for a lot of the stockholders who get a lot of At the same time, that is one of the major problems for our country in terms of employment, our tax base in terms of on our economics, our whole economy. One of the problems that our country has not dealt with is an economy that is destroying itself. We are not retooling our factories because we're sending them abroad. We are developing an incredibly big international debt, because again our factories and our basis then exported. So, I think that... I think the problem that you're referring to really is the people who make the decisions for this country and probably for the world are the ones who own the multinationals and that they're making the decisions on the basis of what is good for the upper 30% of people in income and not good for the bottom 70%. And if you want two houses and a yacht, and all the other resources involved in that, then you should stop criticizing me and not me but well, yeah, if you want. The ideas and so on that I'm putting forth because it is not in the best interest of corporate America to rethink are those policies. Yeah. In the red\r\n\r\n- You are describing and yet at the end of your talk you spoke of particular actions which may be seen as thoroughly minimal. Now, it's your view that this isn't the time to do these small actions, like or are you really calling for a political economic revolution in the United States and at Iowa State University?\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] I don't know whether I'm calling for that or not. I'd like to see it happen. If you can make the call, I'll also be right there behind you. No, in a way I'm asking for both. I guess I'm saying that you have to make, first of all, you have to begin to talk about these issues. You have to begin to think them through. You have to begin Iowa State if that's where you're at because Iowa state is, for example in the field of agriculture, Iowa state is considered if not the best, it's certainly one of the top two or three agricultural country colleges in the United States. And it could take leadership and people would listen. So, I would say begin here, and then if you could make the bigger revolution, I'm right there. But while the things that I've been talking about changing some laws, beginning to change our philosophy about research and so on, they may... I may have made them sound pretty simple, but we all know that they are very difficult changes to bring about because it's things we have lived with for a couple centuries now. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- What is the problem with working in Washington?\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] Probably are. I don't know enough about it.\r\n\r\n- Why is it in government that this is? Is there are no ethics at all? How many in scales is really happening? I'm one person out here. I fly all over from Malaysia and see this stuff going on. I say, \"How does it happen? Why is it that a person like you say, \"Why do the starving people need diet soda?\" It's like we are speaking and no one listens. 'Cause you are one in a million. Is there that no one is speaking out? Or is it that the don't have any powers? How does this go on? What's wrong with Washington D.C? what do I do, okay? What if I don't do?\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] Yeah. Well. Yeah. Well, we both know that a big part of the problem and it's... I'm trying to simplify this all into a two-sentence answer, but that the problem is that the people who own the corporations are the people who run the country, in our country. If you look at people who are, for example in all of the top slots in government and it's a yoyo system between the corporation and the secretary of commerce or secretary of defense and so on. They go back and forth between the corporations and back and forth. If you talk about the elections that were held yesterday and I don't want to do that. If you do, then you deal with the fact that substance had very little to do with the way America voted. It was how much money you had to buy advertising and how willing you were to be nasty and that it was advertising. And it was the book tube. And that's a much deeper problem. I think, again, if we can make, put this right down to the Iowa state and the university system, we have to recognize that it is not the people who didn't go beyond the eighth grade or high school who are exploiting the world. It is the graduates of the universities that are exploiting the world. And that one of the problems of universities, if you get back to his comments, one of the problems that I was Cornell and all the other universities is that the universities have been completely ineffective in putting across the idea that part of education should be the development of a more moral citizen. Do the universities care about the morality of their students, or is the concern the development of someone who will get a higher salary because that is what attracts people to the universities and that is what attracts grants to universities? I think we're running into a problem right now that we're moving from a very specific thing, the green revolution and the multinationals into a bigger problem of our nation. How is our nation run? How are decisions made and so on? Like, again, go back to the very specific thing of the green revolution and the agricultural colleges of research that is developed towards helping the very rich and developing a kind of Neo slave of a poor class of people who will support the level of living that the guy over there was talking about. Sure. As a country, we want the two cars and the yacht and the two houses and all of that. And in order for the people who have those to afford them they have to maintain the system and they have been effective in convincing the poorest people that we shouldn't change the system because there's always the hope that they're gonna break through and get the yacht. So, anybody have a last real positive question that... Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Lewis] No, you can't lobby because then you lose your five O one C three which is your tax exempt status and your ability to operate. So no PVL, private voluntary organization would ever say that they love it especially when it was being recorded. Now, we don't lobby. The group I work with, the Asian resource center basically is trying to challenge the exploitation of people in Asia. We stick specifically to Asia. We've worked a great deal upon in the China. Most of us in our group that started in protesting the war in Vietnam feel that the same kinds of things are happening in the Philippines, in Korea, in Indonesia and so on. And that we, as a country, have the responsibility to try to think these things through and try to make some changes. We put a lot of emphasis on trying to get across the idea that people in Asia are people not statistics or science or books or anything like that. So we have, for example, an exhibit of Vietnamese block prints, a folk art in Vietnam. We try to show the difference between, for example with the recycled war material, what we're really trying to do is get people to think about the difference between the technology and the people who were dropping the bombs and the technology of the people on whom the bombs were dropped. 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