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The department of English, The College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, and Miller Lecture Fund, The Elections Committee funded by GSB, The Graduate English Association, The Department of Architecture, Women's Studies Program, The College of Education, The College of Veterinary Medicine. The vice provost for undergraduate education, The College of Agriculture and the Center for Teaching Excellence. We had a lot of people who are interested in this so, visit. Then I'd also like to introduce to you Gunner Bennett Dickson, who's going to do the formal introduction of our visitors. Gunner is a graduate student in the English department. He's about to finish his degree, he's to receive an MA in creative writing, and he's working on a collection of prose poetry. And next year, he's going on to study for his PhD at The University of Iowa. He has very broad based interests, he's not only a creative writer, he's interested in literary studies and has been very active as an editor. As a writer, he's gone to conferences and the English department has been very happy to have him. He came as a hungry fellow, a prohobic fellow to our department. He also came a long ways to get to Iowa, he's a Icelandic Canadian. So he's come to the balmic south for a little change of case. So, Gunner, it's your turn.\r\n\r\n- Well, since I was told this was a formal introduction, I was planning on having a podium on which to put my papers\r\n\r\n- But see we defected you. I'm sorry.\r\n\r\n- Well, which means I'm gonna have to put them on a table. So since these papers say stuff about you guys I'll have to ask you not to look at them. I'm sure I didn't even tell you what a pleasure it is, to be asked to introduce Jane Tompkins and Gerald Graff. When Susan Carlson asked me to do this, I was thrilled, honored and also terrified. Because when you're asked to introduce Jane Hopkins and Gerald Graff, what do you say? I mean, it's funny because my peers and I are in rather unique position in relation to these two critics. We're perhaps members of the first generation of young critics, who read Me and My Shadow before reading Foucault's Archeology of Knowledge. And you read Beyond the Culture Wars, before reading, Writing Indifference. I suspect I'm not alone in saying that a pedagogy of counter authority, was actually my introduction to the world of the pedagogical theory. What I'm saying is that my generation of young scholars is entering the critical conversation at a crucial and exciting moment. It is the moment when Gerald Graff is suggesting that the way we teach literature and the way we practice literary criticism, are not so different after all. That the teaching of literature can and should reflect the broad fundamental disagreements that exist in the critical conversation. It is also the moment when Jane Tompkins is suggesting that we reexamined theories and systems, on erasing the writing subject, in order to preserve the illusion, that criticism is based on neutral empirical pre-sentence. Professors Tompkins and Graff are both at The University of Illinois, in Chicago right now, where they're redesigning the landscape in other ways. I wanna close by saying that here, in this room, we may not be saving Dover Beach, but we are extending the critical conversation beyond its usual boundaries. So, maybe here in this room tonight, we can get lost, just a little. It gives me great pleasure to present Jane Tompkins and Gerald Graff.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much Gunner.\r\n\r\n- Thank you for that very kind introduction, and very gratifying, and thank you Susan. And everyone who made this possible, as they say. And all the work that people put in. We're going to read from a dialogue that we've written. Those of you who came to our event this afternoon, were exposed to one of our dialogues called Can We Talk, excerpts from it, which we used to sort of frame the discussion. And tonight we have a second dialogue that we're still working on, so be careful what you say, because it will probably get into, in some ways what our... It'll probably have some effect on, and this a document in progress. And although, we didn't have the title for it, I think when we wrote this, we decided to give you the title of Sage on the stage or guide on the side. Which is the point of departure of the discussion. Though, we move out to various other issues, we're gonna do the same, use the same format as we used this afternoon, of each reading our own parts. But then when we finished this, we hope to do about 20 minutes or so of this initial reading. And then we have a little exercise cooked up. We don't needn't to go into that right now, we'll go into it after we've finish, okay? Then we'll open things up to general discussion.\r\n\r\n- And still kind of exercise that you might use in a class, and we were hoping that the exercise would not only help you to start talking about the issues we're raising, but also perhaps become itself of something that you might wanna talk about. The practice of, or what good does it do to do this kind of exercise with your students? Gerry and I differ over the value of such things. So welcome to the Jane and Gerry show.\r\n\r\n- Dear Jane, there's an interesting passage in your book, A Life in School. Is the voice level okay, back there? There's an interesting passage in your book, A Life in School, that succinctly sums up a dilemma, perennially felt by teachers. Do we go at our students and teach them aggressively? Or do we back off and give them the room to teach themselves? In the first case, it seems we risk intimidating and silencing students but in the second we risk not teaching them at all. You defend the second option, giving them room to teach themselves. But apparently, with mixed feelings, in the passage I have in mind in your book, you imagine what you call a person, you call an internalized critic, who writes to you as follows. \"Dear professor Tompkins, I think you're fooling yourself, you're cheating your students under the guise of liberating them. These students need guidance, they need a model, they need to hear books discussed boldly, rigorously with discipline and in a spirit of inquiry. They're only 18 or 19, they don't know how to be intellectuals. It's your job to show them and you're not doing it. You ought to be fired.\" And here's what you say in reply.\r\n\r\n- It's signed Disgusted.\r\n\r\n- Signed Disgusted.\r\n\r\n- A class doesn't get to know itself until it has been let go. People's personalities won't be visible, their feelings and opinions won't surface, unless the teacher gets out of the way on a regular basis. You have to be willing to give up your authority and the sense of identity and prestige that come with it. For the students to be able to feel their own authority. To get out of the student's way, the teacher has to learn how to get out of her own way. To not let her ego call the shots all the time. This is incredibly difficult, but I think it is a true path for a teacher. And I don't even remember how I signed it. Jane or something.\r\n\r\n- Admirably here, you state the objection to your view as forcefully in the internalized critic. You state the objection to your view as forcefully as I can imagine. Still, as you know, I side with your internalized critic, except I don't wanna see you fired. That when I said that to Jane, she said, \"Well, why not, if you follow the logic of that?\" If we pick up where your dialogue left off, as we agreed to do in this exchange, then I would retort that getting out of the way on a regular basis, doesn't help students' personalities to become visible or their feelings and opinions to surface. At least, not in ways that are relevant to most academic courses. The way to help students express their personalities and feelings better, is to provide them with some intellectual substance that they can internalize. Having said that, I think I'll get out of the way and see what you're thinking on this issue.\r\n\r\n- And from now on, we're gonna be summarizing the substance of our exchange, so, it won't be a word by word reading. If only it were true, Gerry, that all we had to do was put intellectual substance before our students. That's what I used to think after I got out of graduate school. I would come into class, you know with the latest theory, hot off the grill, full of enthusiasm, [indistinct] for my students. And there they were with their baseball caps on backward, and their diet Coke cans in their school newspaper, and you know, it didn't fly. You have to do more than simply present intellectual stuff, substance, even with passion and intelligibility. You have to open up a space around the subject so that the students can get a handhold on it. You have to leave room for them to make their own connection with the material and structure ways for them to address the material, so that it means something to them. So many times in my own schooling, it seemed to me that the professor's ideas about a subject or bias, got in the way of my own grappling with it. So, I felt somehow squashed or left out. At the same time, that you need to find ways to let the students grasp material on their own. You have to realize that students come into our courses already sort of battered into submission in a sense, that is, lots of students feel that they don't have anything to say, that nothing that they say is gonna be worthwhile. Because they learned a long time ago that their opinions weren't valuable, because they'd been put down or that they'd been in classroom situations where it was too risky to speak. So, it's uncommon upon us I think, to create the kind of atmosphere in class that will allow such students to recover their own voices, to recover some sense of their own worth, and of the worth of their own thinking and of their own thoughts. And what this comes down to is essentially creating a feeling of safety in the class. That when a student opens his or her mouth, he or she is not going to be criticized, is not gonna be judged, but it's going to be honored and listened to. This takes a lot of thought and skill, it's not an abdication of our responsibility as teachers. But it's a way of, what was I say here? It's an assumption of responsibility, for areas of student experience that we were never made aware of when we went to graduate school.\r\n\r\n- Well, I agree with a lot of what you say, I think we agree that the teachers have to be concerned not just with the substance of what they're teaching, but with their students' reception of it and how it connects or fails to connect with their lives. But this is what I had in mind, when I suggested that the intellectual substance we provide has to be internalized by the students. I think you're right, that often teachers are so concerned with the substance that they don't think enough about the problems students have internalizing it. Where I think we differ though, is that it seems to me that opening up the space for students, enabling them to feel the discussion is meaningful and so forth, doesn't necessarily have a lot to do with whether the teacher talks a lot or gets out of the way, it seems to me, we can fail either way. Though, it is certainly crucial to establish a classroom climate in which students feel it's safe to speak up. This is just the first step in helping students get what you call their own handholds. Their own handholds on intellectual issues and intellectual forms of talk. As for the safety zone, that you talk about, a class that seems to me can be the safest, most caring environment in the world and still be a lousy class. In which students never do get an adequate handhold on the intellectual culture that the class is presumably supposed to be about. So, maybe we need to talk more specifically about these conceptual handholds that might close the gap between student talk and teacher talk. And less about who's gonna do most of the talking.\r\n\r\n- Well, I agree, I mean, it's important to find these, you know, conceptual handholds and so forth. And I don't think anyone would disagree about that, but I don't want it so quickly to dismiss the question of safety or the atmosphere that obtains in a classroom situation. My own experience as a teacher has made me aware of how difficult it is really to have a classroom in which students feel truly safe, to say what it is that they think. What it's they do. And, it takes me quite a while in a class to arrive at the point where students can really speak directly, and frankly to one another. And speak from a fairly deep level within themselves. And it's something that I've been working on for years. It usually takes me about five or six weeks to get to that point. There have been times when I've really never gotten there or when I've only gotten there right at the end of the course. I think that what I'm talking about could be understood as a matter of trust, that is, you have to be able to trust the other people in the class, not just the professor. But sometimes it's the other students that the students are afraid of, even more than what the professor will say. So, it's a question of really educating students, in what it means to be a member of a group, in which you show the most profound respect for the other members of the group. In which you are nonjudgmental, respectful, which you will not carry away, you know, personal material out of the classroom. And which you were fully present and participating in. In my own case... What's this? Okay, there we go. I think it's quite an art. The aim is a genuine relationship between and among the members of the class and a sense of mutual support and reaching a common goal. This atmosphere of trust that I'm talking about doesn't rule out conflict. I mean, this afternoon, we sort of went back and forth over the advisability of conflict in academic conversation. In fact, what I would say is that unless and until you have this sense of trust in a group of people, the members will not be able to get down to the bedrock of their differences. Because they'll be afraid to go there. But it takes safety, it takes trust to be able to make yourself vulnerable enough, to expose that point at which you really differ from another person. It's not easy to build among a group of strangers, the kind of trust it takes to risk revealing who you really are.\r\n\r\n- I think where we differ is over the causes of this classroom problem that I think you described very well. And over the best way to go about overcoming it. I see the student fear and distrust that you described very eloquently, as rooted in the lack of what you a moment ago, called the conceptual handholds, that we need in order to enter confidently into academic intellectual discussions. I mean, of course, kids are going to be scared to death to speak up and fearful or distressful or fearful of being embarrassed, who wouldn't be? If you're thrown into an academic discussion without a grasp of the way a one plays that kind of game. And unsure how you get a grasp. In other words, if you don't know how to use the language of your imagined, just your own self constructed critic. If you don't know how to be an intellectual, if you don't talk the talk, as we say of the intellectual culture, then of course you're gonna exhibit all the symptoms of extreme discomfort and embarrassment and distrust and fear that you described in the face of intellectual talk. But if my diagnosis is correct, and the remedy should be not to hold a retreat as a kind of safe haven from the curriculum and from the intellectual world, in other words to kind of stopped the world while we learn how to trust each other. If that's what you're sort of getting at, a better approach for me would be to do more, than I think we do to help these students become socialized into the academic intellectual game. And it's intimidating kinds of conversations which then will build confidence and possibly remove some of this distress.\r\n\r\n- Okay, that's the point at which we differ, I think. Not just in terms of method, but in terms of what it is we're getting at. You see yourself as socializing students into the rules of an academic game. And I would say that that introduction or initiation of the outsider into the conventions of the guild, is perhaps, something that we would want to do but that it's not enough. I mean, at the end of a life in school, I end the book saying something like, what we want to do is to not just not train people but for careers, but prepare them for life. So, I think that as our methods differ, that is, Sage on the stage versus Scott on the side, it's because our aims differ. And that's maybe what we ought to be talking about. That is what is it that you're trying to do as a teacher? What am I trying to do? Yeah, okay, here we only have one copy.\r\n\r\n- Well, I'm not talking to you, when I talk about socializing students into the academic and I'm not talking about careerism necessarily, but I plead guilty to wanting to socialize students into the conventions that govern intellectual exchange within the Academy. What else are teachers supposed to do? Withhold those conventions from the students? I think we do enough of that already. I think you may have an overly narrow and pejorative view of academic discourse in this discussion. For me, it's not careerism or some kind of mechanical, meaningless process. To me, you yourself provide a good model of academic discourse at its best, in the kind of writing that you do. You've learned to play this game well, I think I want the student to learn to play at equally well. Does this help to bring us closer?\r\n\r\n- I don't know Gerry, we have departed from the script here. No, I don't wanna withhold that kind of experience from the students, but I think that you and I are not... That we don't agree on what the aims of the liberal education are. I see it as the building of a whole person, and you see it as the initiation of a person into a certain mode of discourse, which I think is valuable, but.\r\n\r\n- Well, I don't see any in compatibility in what I call socializing students into the academic culture and developing the whole person. I mean, ideally, students would find personal meaning in what our academic culture is about in various conversations and discussions and studies that we perform. You at times though, seem to talk as if academic discussion and this sort of relates back to our discussion this afternoon of the competitiveness of conflict and so forth. At times you write as if there's kind of incompatibility between getting socialized into the academic culture and finding personal meaning in your life. Is that not the case? Because I tend to see these things as very, very compatible.\r\n\r\n- Why don't we break off at this point, rather than my replying to Gerry. I think what we'll do is have our exercise now, is that okay? And the exercise goes like this, we're at this point just asking you to step in to this dialogue at whatever point you choose. I didn't bring my timer, did I? Well, this is a six minute exercise. And it requires that you pair off, you have to sit next to somebody that you can talk to. And maybe we should just sort of count off from what's your right to left, you know, sort of A, B, A, B, A, B, A, B. And if it comes out uneven just move or talk to the person behind you. For the first two minutes we're going to ask the As to simply tell the Bs what they think about what's been going on before, you can pick this up at any point that you wish. After two minutes we'll make some sort of noise, or if we can find the lights, flick the lights, and then you'll switch and the Bs will be doing the talking, and the As will be doing the listening. And for the last few minutes, it's whoever. You can just talk back and forth. And at the end of six minutes, we'll call time and see what's happened. Okay, so do you wanna make sure that you're sitting next to someone that you can talk to? We'd like it if you could pair up and before we begin, make sure that you have someone.\r\n\r\n- They talk back and forth.\r\n\r\n- Maybe reminders.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Okay, are you ready? Okay, shall we begin? The As go, that is the person on your right speaks to the person on the left.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I think what we should do is to ask for several volunteers to say what came out of their conversion. And then see if we can get like a theme [indistinct] out of that.\r\n\r\n- So some issues I really think that we already got into, if we haven't gotten into-\r\n\r\n- Well we did go on for 20 minutes.\r\n\r\n- Did we?\r\n\r\n- It's 25, almost 25 of 9. I don't know what time this started.\r\n\r\n- We were late. We started about 10:00.\r\n\r\n- 10:00 Am. I guess we didn't know the [indistinct].\r\n\r\n- No, but I know we said it off camera.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I kind of... Probably I rang you out of state, and that's why.\r\n\r\n- When you were there this afternoon [indistinct].\r\n\r\n- Right, it's time now. What should we do?\r\n\r\n- Call, okay.\r\n\r\n- It's time to switch.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- The Bs have it.\r\n\r\n- We weren't being very sloppy.\r\n\r\n- It's very effective, and it's the first time I've seen an audience actually do what the speaker asks. How much time to go?\r\n\r\n- 30 seconds or more.\r\n\r\n- I think we only-\r\n\r\n- Okay, it's time now for them to change.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- You can just talk back and forth for two minutes now, whatever way it goes.\r\n\r\n- Should we ask them to pose a question or something?\r\n\r\n- You're doing this or?\r\n\r\n- No, no, that's the reason to do this.\r\n\r\n- Everybody is.\r\n\r\n- Usually they may come more, it's because we're used to-\r\n\r\n- Why don't we get up and have them use our-\r\n\r\n- We have another minute that could be-\r\n\r\n- We hand them our mics?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, we should. We can both get up and-\r\n\r\n- We can get them to come up and-\r\n\r\n- No, we take these and then go around and give them to them.\r\n\r\n- Okay, we're just gonna ask you to arbitrary, bring your conversion to a close. See, what people are talking about with one another is always more interesting than what the speakers are saying. That's at least my belief anyway. So, we'd like to ask you just to tell us what you were talking about here. Give him the mic.\r\n\r\n- I like this idea of teachers backing off, all you need do now is give me, and send me to the public library.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Somebody else. We'll come back to this, don't worry.\r\n\r\n- What separates you as a teacher from a group therapist? How is your class different than a group therapy session?\r\n\r\n- Jane.\r\n\r\n- I think you should answer him.\r\n\r\n- All right.\r\n\r\n- First of all, the assumption behind the question is that there's something wrong with group therapy in the classroom? That that's an inappropriate thing. And I actually believe that it's not inappropriate. I think that we live in a world where we have divided ourselves up so many categories, and we have specialists. We have specialists to take care of our spiritual life. We have a specialists to take care of our emotional life. We have a specialists to take care of our intellectual life. We have a personal trainer to take care our bodies. We live in this specialist culture, and as a result we have divided ourselves up into all of these categories. And I don't think that that's a realistic way of approaching any of these and a way of good basis on which to conduct the education. That's to say, the nurture and growth of human beings. So, I think the people who are responsible for the education of young people need to be people who are in touch with all aspects of themselves and are able to take responsibility for more than just one tiny segment of what it means to be alive. So, the answer is there might be times, when a class that I conducted did resemble group therapy, in the sense that people would be talking about emotional material, in a way that's personal and being responded to on that level, by other members of the course. There would be a kind of an intimacy, and an openness, that one doesn't normally associate with the college classroom. If that were the case, I would say that that was a real step forward. It was a step toward the degression of the emotional into the intellectual enterprise. So, I would say that that was not a criticism which was intended to be, but actually a good thing [indistinct]\r\n\r\n- Here.\r\n\r\n- That's a little bit [indistinct].\r\n\r\n- Well, the kind of teaching that I do right now is focused on self exploration and discovery. It isn't content oriented. That is, it's not focused on a text, on the coverage of certain bodies of material. So, the examples that I will give might not be helpful, okay. In the course that I have been team teaching for the last four years, which is called writing spiritual autobiography. And I teach a version of that now in The College of Education at UIC, is called Teaching and Itself. I asked the students to do quite a bit of self exploration. In the case of the undergraduate spiritual autobiography course. The intent was to allow people to take time to get to know themselves in a way and on a level that would enable them to make an intelligent choice, vocational choices. This course is taken mainly by seniors and juniors as they stepped out of the university. Because so often university students, especially a school of the kind that I had been teaching at Duke, where the students are very good at passing exams and doing their homework, following directions. Achieving, achieving, achieving. They don't really know sort of who they are, or what their actual inclinations and desires and talents are. Because they've been so busy meeting sets of external requirements, which are very good at, they haven't really had time to reflect, to get to know themselves. So, that was the purpose of this course. And the case of the course I'm teaching at UIC, it has to do with building a sense of confidence and authority in teacher, not authority qua expert in a given field, which is a way in which we normally understand authority. But a kind of personal authority that stems from self knowledge, of knowing what kind of person it is that you... Who you really are and what it is you believe in and how you have been formed and what your experience has made you. In both of these courses, the crucial class comes in about fourth or fifth week of the course. It can't come before that because there isn't enough trust. And I called this cousin, I taught it first with my colleague Martha Simmons, the turning point. And the assignment is to ask students to write and the format of writing assignment is that you sit down and you write eight pages without a break. You can go to the bathroom, and you get something to drink, but other than that, you're just sitting and you're writing stream of conscious. That is, unedited pros. An answer to the question, when did the world turn upside down for you? what was the day? What was the time at which everything changed? What was the turning point of [indistinct]. And what happens in that class is pretty extraordinary, it takes usually two classes, two and a half or three hour classes for everyone to report out on this. And I allow everyone to tell their own story, everyone to either read or tell what they have written. And in that class, most of the students are able to sort of get to the core of what has made them who they are for them. They open up to each other in an incredible way, and they listen to each other in incredible way. The listening is just as important as the speaking. It's an example of what Parker Palmer calls, knowing and being known. That is, it's the opportunity to be known by other people at the deepest level, and also to know other people at that level. And I find that the students have a tremendous hunger for this. And it's a hunger that is not satisfied either in your academic courses or by enlarge in your extracurricular or social activities. So, that for me, if you asked me, you know, when would something go well, it's in that class, given the kind of aims I have and the kind of teaching that I would say something went really well. After that class, the course changes. It's the turning point of the course, because we relayed at a level, a different level from the level at which we've been relaying prior to that. That's the long answer.\r\n\r\n- It seems to me that there's problem, that on the one hand an answer to the question about turning education in your therapy, you attacked or criticized the sort of specialized notion of these terms where when you have therapy over here then presumably the intellectual life over there. But then in response to the question about your own practice, it did sound to me like a rather specialized... I mean, you use the term of knowing yourself or finding out who you are who other people are. As if this is something set apart from and different from engaging in intellectually challenging rigorous intellectual kind of discussion. And as in reading, when you talk about trust, you talk about it as sort of separate or prior stage that's in a certain sense, specialized. Yes, a lot of students are fed up with schooling and fed up with intellectuality. It's easy to be fed up with intellectuality because schools and colleges often make, intellectuality look dull and stupid and depersonalizing and so forth. But my argument is we need a stronger models within intellectuality, not moving off into a kind of separate space where we can, as you put it, know ourselves and so forth. Am I making sense?\r\n\r\n- Hmm-hmm. Yeah, do you wanna get the mic for me?\r\n\r\n- As you sort of [indistinct] log of this process through a especially ruin things, as you know, necessarily you had the Jane pedagogy and Gerry pedagogy. So, now we have two. What I'm interested in is the sense in which a teacher's knowing herself, let say, means that you have to have lots of pedagogies, because there's lots of selves out there. And what's the calculus of it, the ratio that you can work into some of your discussion that allows that adjustment. My Geraldism, my Janeness to one that they need. Does that make any sense?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I would say that this is how I would respond to what you have just said. I'm not sure if it's an adequate response. My own sense of teaching right now is that it's not a question of method, so much as it is a question of being. That is, it's the being of the teacher that teaches primarily. It's sort of who you are as a whole that is the source of what you do in the classroom. So that of necessity, there would have to be no one method or no, even a dichotomized sense of what was possible as we have implied here. That there is by our very title. But rather that the method of the teaching or the format. The approach to the subject matter, and indeed, the subject matter itself in some way. Is an outgrowth of who the teacher is or who the professor is. And now I'm gonna revert to our discussion in this afternoon. I think very often that the teacher herself or himself is unaware of the nature of that connection. Has not been asked to reflect in this sort of introspective way on who he or she is and what the relationship is between his or her identity and past and experience and mode of procedure in the classroom. So, in a sense, what I'm asking for is an integration of a certain kind of self-knowledge and personal understanding with pedagogy that wouldn't set up any one method or other method. But we'd rather let the method flow from the being of the teacher.\r\n\r\n- Another way of putting that is to say that once you stop to ask the questions, it's too late. The opportunities pass by. What's that?\r\n\r\n- It's your turn [indistinct].\r\n\r\n- Well, what we were saying just now was, in fact, you give some of the answers that we were talking about. We were saying that the texts, keep [indistinct] in what you're teaching might sort of influence how you're gonna approach. Whether it will be teacher centered or student centered. And also, it depends on where you are teaching, you are talking about certain methods in a universal sense, but if you're talking about teaching a class in Asia, is very different from teaching a class over here. If you go over there, I think you do need to have some kind of what you say, safety, you know, we can make them some few safe to say whatever they want. Because people there tend to be rather conservative. They might know something, but they dare not speak out for fear of being ridiculed or something. But my experience, in the United State is that a lot of people here, even when they don't know anything, they'll say it. So, they feel perfectly safe over here I think. So, I think the setting is important, the material, all those things influence the way we teach them.\r\n\r\n- I guess I'm one of the old people. Because I have Dr. Walker for Shakespeare, and I had Will Denver for creative writing way back when. And Dr. Walker always did something when he gave a test to the students, that I really loved, that I used with my students. He always said, \"There's something in this class that you studied for, that you know better than I do. Write up your own question and answer it.\" And it's a very effective way to find out what you know, yourself, your voice, your willingness to throw yourself out there. And you could become chopped timber that way. And as I was telling him, I taught eighth graders for years and I developed a myth dictionary of about 3000 entries from Greek and Roman mythology. And after we did mythology for a while and the kids had a taste, they had the handles, so to speak, I'd say, okay, there's something about the mythology that you're interested in. Pick a name or concept of Greek mythology or Roman mythology, go to my dictionary or my computer, type in that, have it find it, it will sort out every reference to that. 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tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248#t=2722.41,2723.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248/transcript/26732/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is the first time, except for this afternoon,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248#t=2723.67,2727.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248/transcript/26732/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we have done this kind of 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forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248#t=2743.01,2745.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248/transcript/26732/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then if the people go away and say,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248#t=2745.31,2746.897"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248/transcript/26732/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Well we never learned anything about teaching.\" Right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248#t=2746.897,2750.263"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248/transcript/26732/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because I didn't call it to their attention","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248#t=2750.263,2753.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248/transcript/26732/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that everything that we've been 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I think this is, there's somewhat of a division in the teaching profession about this. I've certainly run into teachers who say, \"I don't care whether the students talk my kind of talk or not. If they enjoy the book, if they get an enjoyable experience out of the book, that's fine, that's my job.\" I don't think that's enough, myself. When Jane talks, I hear Jane saying something like I don't really give a damn if the students can produce my kind of talk or not. I want them to have a certain kind of feeling of self-discovery. And I think this is, if I summarized our differences fairly, it seems to me a difference that's rather runs through our whole profession from grammar school on up, kindergarten on up. It doesn't get really discussed very much, of course it's big compositionist over expressivism and so forth versus academic discourse. something that I think we need to talk about a lot more.\r\n\r\n- Well, I think one of the reasons that in some of the responses from the audience who've gotten questions about can you give us specific example and the like is that I know that the course that I teach is going to help me answer, and I hear Jane, and I hear Jerry. I can switch sides and do either one. Even this very semester I'm teaching an undergraduate theory course, and I feel that the purpose of the course is for me to introduce students to the multiple languages. if you will, of literary studies. And I would be remiss not to do that. I'm trying at the same time to bring the atmosphere across so that they can speculate aloud, and be wrong and stumble as they try to learn that but these are real . I'm teaching another course, which is another 300 level which is here primarily for juniors and seniors, maybe some sophomores, but they're mostly non-majors. So then I would say I would agree with you. I think it's important to give students a sense of command over say, the theoretical language and the like so that they feel that they can enter the conversation. Is that true for those who are not majors? I've been struggling with that and not knowing, the two times that I've taught it, what I should do about it. How much do they need? But I also feel that you're teaching more of a writing course and that makes all the difference. If I were to teach a writing course, that's on personal writing especially, I would want them to be more introspective. So, I don't know, all of the above.\r\n\r\n- To build on what Brenda just said, I think there's a lot of middle ground between the two positions that you have presented. And there are days when I'm Jane and then Barry. I don't believe there's a difference between content and course for example. I'm teaching a graduate course in the history of where we have a thick book to cover and I get to lecture day. I set up that course so that my students take agency. It's not that I'm abdicating my role as a teacher. I'm one of the important representatives of disciplinary knowledge, but my primary concern is not covering the material as much as making the material meaningful. The point I think where I would choose sides in this debate would be over the issue of can we afford to just go with the status quo? To assume, I think sometimes unproblematicly what has passed for academic discourse is something that everybody should be acculturated with. I think if you take issues of diversity seriously it's incumbent upon us to be continually reexamining what counts as knowledge in the Academy. And one of the substantive ways to do that is in our disciplinary discussions with other scholars. I think unless we also address the substantive ways of disputes that we're not fully engaging in what it is we might be able to learn. So I guess I really am saying that sort of the middle ground between . Just through writing courses or self-study courses but for our own understanding of what the content is.\r\n\r\n- I'm in teacher education and one of the things to help our future teachers in encouraging discussions in class I use what Christenberry's three interlocking circles. And one of them is the literature that she calls the matter. And one of them is the personal connections to the reader. And the third one is the external world. And she says some of the best questions to get students really thinking deeply, and really connecting with what they are reading is to have questions that are going to be the parts where the circles interlock. And then the really good questions are where all three circles interlock. So, that would go along with what David said about creating a balance and finding the best in everything.\r\n\r\n- I just had a question for Jerry. George asked the question of Jane when you're really looking for more examples. My question to you is when you want the students to engage in this intellectual discussion, which I too see a lot of value in, how do you do that? Do you get at a meta discourse level where you cut off the conversation and say, okay, I want you all to notice this is what's happened. This is what academic discourse is about. Or do you assume they pick it up just by modeling?\r\n\r\n- Well, I do a couple of things. First of all, I try to sort of flush out students' attitudes toward academics. Particularly flush out resentments and hostilities towards it which I find are often quite considerable, and I would agree legitimate often. That is increasingly my courses are about the problem of academic discourse or the problem with discourse. What kind of talk. I don't try to convert students to academic intellectualism, or at least not directly. I try to sucker them into it or seduce them into it in a certain way. But I make the problem of academic discourse, or in the case of literature courses, lit crit speak a problem. I try to bring that problem directly raise that as a question. What kind of words do you use? What kind of phrases? Why write this way and speak that way, and so forth. So that's for starters. Beyond that.\r\n\r\n- Would you do that in a freshman class?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I do it in all the way up and down the line. I do it with high school students, but I've also started to write to do textbooks, or edit textbooks and write textbooks. It seems to me that we don't reflect enough on this problem of discourse, at least teachers of in literature. Compositionists do more. I can tell you briefly about a course, not one that I teach, but one that intrigues me. There's a teacher named Donald Jones at the University of Hartford, he teaches composition. He organizes his course around the conflict between student discourse and academic discourse, which he also presents as . Concept between personal discourse and what seems to be stereotypically sort of objective personal discourse of the Academy. He really builds his course around that. When he opens this up students divide very interestingly. Some define academic discourse as, \"Stuffy BS that professors have to talk in order to impress each other.\" At the other end of the spectrum is a more positive attitude. Well, no academic discourse is sort of a special language that you need to talk or maybe not so special in order to talk in a disciplined way about a subject. And he develops readings, and of course it's easy to accumulate readings on each side and then in the middle. He makes this sort of the topic of the course. Has them go out and do papers on what is the discourse of sociology, sociology class, report back. He turns them into ethnographers of the strange tribal customs and different disciplines. What's interesting by the end of the course, what's interesting is that a lot of the students are still anti-academic discourse, they still think it's stuffy BS, but they've also begun to realize that their attacks on academic discourse will be more effective if they use a little of it. So, he kind of seduces them into it. So I kind of do some of that I think. But mainly I raise the issue. And James, where it comes into play on this because her work sort of stages this question too, the personal and the academic. So I do it by raising this as a controversial question.\r\n\r\n- I know we have some students here. And I was curious if the students would feel safe enough to say something about what you think about what we've been saying about you?\r\n\r\n- I've had some classes where professors were very good at getting students to talk and feel very comfortable with talking in classes, but the most effective thing usually was when the professors would lead the discussion and always come back into the discussion so that people could understand what people were saying to each other because students are not often as clear at communicating as their professors. They don't have discourse. But when the professes explain it in the discourse students gradually get to know more and more of it. The students teach a lot of it, there's always the professor showing the discourse methods, and I think that the middle ground is, by far, the most effective.\r\n\r\n- I don't mind. I think both of you are talking about the approach to... I see it as a thing of respect. I think all education is an intent goes right to the heart of respect. Until a student can respect and has the ability to respect themselves it's really not possible to respect others. So in order to get that respect that I call education I think you have to have the guidance, you have to have that dichotomy.\r\n\r\n- I'd like to say something apropos of subject. Right now I'm a student in a clinical pastoral education program which is the kind of course that you take to learn to be a hospital chaplain. The pedagogy of this course, and this is a nationwide program, these courses are given in hospitals all over the country is in what we might call an action reflection pedagogy. The point that I'm coming to, that is you learn how to be a hospital chaplain by being one, and then coming back to a small group of people afterwards and talking about what happened. But what is unique, in my experience, about this course is that built into the very fabric of the course is the idea that in order to do this work properly you have to constantly be reflecting on yourself. So, the process of learning about being a chaplain, which includes an entire four and a half hour session on HIV AIDS, or an entire four and a half hour session on perinatal death also constantly includes a kind of group therapy experience, self-reflection. For example, the other day at the beginning of class one of the students said something like... He said to the supervisor, \"Do you want to keep the door open?\" The door was already open. This student really wanted the door closed. So, she said, \"Consie, why did you put it that way?\" And we spent the next hour on why she had put it that way because it was germane to the way in which he present himself in the world. He presents himself in a very sort of passive, non-demanding, non-confrontational way, avoids confrontation at all costs. He doesn't make his voice heard in the group very much, he's very differential, lots of it is cultural characteristics . But it was an incredibly fruitful discussion in which the people who, the other students in the group of five who sort of logged on and had their say about what was really happening when Consie said, \"Do you want the door open?\" Their backgrounds, preconceptions, you know biases and habitual ways of interacting also came on the table. So it's not as if the people who were commenting on the person, you know, whose little started this were sort of free and not be undertaken themselves. And this happens all the time in this course. That is we go back and forth between talking about issues around death, or pain, or nursing or what have you to the personal issues that are alive for each member of the group. And I have found it just extraordinary because it's the only setting that I've ever been in where I... Actually it's three things where I was learning experientially by actually doing the work, then getting to reflect on the work on what are the problems with this arises? Every question is a burning question. It's not somebody else's idea of what's important. You know, what do you think about the causes of the French Revolution? It's like, this happened to me yesterday and I want to know what I should do tomorrow. And at the same time, who I am and the kind of person that I am and having difficulties that I have and so forth are all bound up in the way I'm gonna be able to behave as a practitioner. So, I'm offering this as a sort of a model of a kind of learning that I think is wonderful. It suits my temperament very well, and I think a lot of this is temperamental, but it has experience, it has reflection on experience, it has information, and it also has this sort of self-development, self-knowledge complement to it.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Here's a question. This is in response to what you said before, Jerry. And maybe, partially the answer to Brenda, and that's, who really need academic discourse? We have 25,000 students at this university. Most of them are never going to use it. They should be able to speak in full sentences and be able to talk about what they think deeply about, but academic discourse really is for a very small ingroup of academics, a lot of it is unreadable, and I just think it's a mistake. If you're gonna be an English major and go to graduate school then sure, you need to know how to do that. But that's a really small proportion of our students. So, I think just because we do it too much is made of it. It's not really something that's necessary in the world.\r\n\r\n- Let me ask you a question. Is what you just spoke academic discourse?\r\n\r\n- I don't think so. No shit it's not.\r\n\r\n- See, I would say it is. Maybe that's a useful, a very useful question. What are we talking about when we say academic discourse? If academic discourse equals a sort of pedantic, well, as the student put it, BS that professors used to impress each other then nobody needs it except maybe those professors. And that's why the term academic discourse isn't a very good one. Allow me to try to sort of morph it into something more like public cultural discourse, or discourse of whatever cannon pejoratively calls the argument culture. I mean if you open the New York Times every day or the daily paper anywhere you find a lot of academic discourse. I mean, a lot of it is written by academics or it's about academics, but really what I'm talking about is not exclusively academic, and maybe that's a problem. And at least I think we claim that we're teaching a real world of problems, issues, and discourses in the Academy, but that isn't ambiguity.\r\n\r\n- Thanks for clearing it up.\r\n\r\n- I mean, to me you just stated your question.\r\n\r\n- It's not screwed up for me. I don't know what academic discourse is for sure, but I would just say I like big ideas sometimes. I'm going to a 4C session, haha David, I do composition too and we're gonna be talking about the use of the personal in scholarship. And I started out with a dialogue between a student who had been in an undergraduate class with me and the debate. She came back as a graduate student. We did a kind of a conference session together and she said that her voice had been lost in this theory class. And, in other words, she was criticizing me and I felt terrible, I felt guilty, and we ended up having a really good dialogue going, and I thought, she trusted me enough to turn to me and say, \"Look, this really stifled who I felt that I am.\" Yet, to make her point she used the theory of muted groups which was a theory that she had learned in my course, and I thought she used it very well. And therefore I think that it might be a new idea, but I'm not necessarily opposed to it for that reason. I don't think you are either .\r\n\r\n- It's easy when you teach English to think you don't have a specialized discourse. And I would agree with Fern that they're all kinds of days and times when you wouldn't know me from a softball player, right? One of the things that I think is it very important, and I try to do this in my general education classes, is to demonstrate that even about things the students think they know a lot about for example, movies, there are languages involved. And I do that mostly not because I want to make them little mini film critics, most of them are pretty good at that already, but because I want to show them that disciplines do have vocabularies, and do involve assumptions, and where that really has a payoff that I care about is when they understand that their own major, sociology, forestry, physics et cetera, is in fact a discourse, it's a language. It has an ideology, it has a vocabulary, et cetera.\r\n\r\n- I'd like to ask the students who are here to make a comment at this point. What's your response to what's just been happening here?\r\n\r\n- Is this about discourse?\r\n\r\n- Yeah. You can talk about anything you wanna talk about.\r\n\r\n- How about discourse for academic discourse. People talking above your head. As a student a lot of times your own professor, who is very intelligent they will talk above your head and it is very frustrating as a student sitting there not having them come down to your level and explain it to you. That is the understanding that I'm getting from academic discourse is professors speaking above a student's head. I've had it done to me and it's very frustrating. I don't like having people talk above me. I want them to come down to my level and explain it so that way I can raise myself up to their level. That would be much more helpful to me. People who do talk about my level I will space out and I can't listen, I will wander. My mind will wander because I don't understand it. It's much more helpful to come down to my level and work with me to come up.\r\n\r\n- I think we need to address this point. I was just wondering about that feeling that they're coming down to your level. No, seriously, that they're up here and you're down here. What does that mean? One of the aims of teaching for me became over a period of time awakening in students they're their own agency on their own behalf. Their own feeling of power, or their own feeling that their relationship to the world or to the subject matter counted. Whatever it was it counted. So that your relations or whatever the subject is that's being talked about in the class is just as important or has just as much a right to exist in the world as the professor's does, even though the professor is being paid a lot of money and has big title, is gonna grade you and all of that. If you can't feel that you count in some way. I mean, you're not sort of way down here and he's way up there, then I don't know. I'm just drifting off. Can somebody help me finish this thought out?\r\n\r\n- It's kind of a question. Even if the student believes that they're on the same level as the professor, and they believe that what they say is important should the professors be speaking the language the student can understand? Because I would like to think that what my professors have to say is also important. And usually I can tell that but some particular cases kind of difficult to tell.\r\n\r\n- I think the kind of hesitation that seems to be breaking out at this point maybe related to a certain confusion or embarrassment that we have about hierarchy in education. And I think that some of the sort of top-down hierarchies that we do have in schools is unhealthy. Students feeling that the professors, that there's an unhealthy gap between students and teachers, and students feeling intimidated or more scared in ways that you wrote about in your text. And then I think in the educational world too that among professors there's a good deal of debate and the word hierarchy tends to be a bad term. My own sense is that it shouldn't be. That is without some degree of hierarchy there would be no schooling. It seems to me that the whole distinction between students and teachers presupposes inequality and hierarchy. On the other hand it also strikes me that the goal of the whole process is to erase that inequality so that by some point in the process, certainly by the end of the process, the students don't need the teacher anymore. They've internalized, this is why I think the mention of internalizing authority and internalizing discourse is so important. But I think this is very tricky because I think you're right to point out that if the hierarchy intervenes in a certain way in the process it undermines that goal of internalization. I don't know that there's a quick solution to this except for we talk about this a lot more than we do.\r\n\r\n- I think I agree. I mean, the professor knows more than the student about the subject, but that's not the basis on which you talk about equality or inequality. It seems to me that you start from the ground level where everybody in this room is equal. No matter who walked into that room everyone would still be equal because they're all human beings. On that ground that I claim quality. So, that's the point of departure. And then it's a question of respect. I guess, to use your word, but I, for me at any rate as a practitioner, what helps me to be able to see my students as human beings equal to myself, and what helps my students to be able to see each other as equals and me too as equals is to know something about their belief story. When some personal dimension of experience of each person in the classroom has become part of the common knowledge it's then more possible for that sense of equality to be a reality rather than just kind of a hypothetical belief that we subscribe to.\r\n\r\n- As a teacher coming into a classroom your hope is we're gonna have a certain ethos that comes off of you, and in regards to respect you will have... They will look up to you and they will respect you. And I think that a purpose of a teacher would be to hold up that ideal of being a respectful person by approaching in two ways. By having a respectful personality, and by giving respect to the students which would be by acknowledging their ideas as being highly important, as making it obvious that everyone in the class is a learner including the teacher.\r\n\r\n- I'm bringing something down to earth 'cause this happened just the last few days. What we are about, discourse, and to me academic discourse or whatever, means a process in which all sides are able to bring forth their views. And when we talk about academic discourse I think we are also talking about certain kind of terms and expressions that make it easy to understand what we are talking about. Now, I don't know whether this is relevant or not. In Malaysia there's a lot of problems right now, and otherwise. There's a party called The Democratic Action Party. They had a board, an exchange board in which you can write your opinions on the computer. And so we sort of put up all of our opinions throughout the world. All of these students from Australia, from England, from the United States. We were sort of communicating with one another for months. Now, what effort was that? About a week ago there was an election in a place called Ximending. And tempers went so... It was very heated. There was no longer what we might call discourse in a proper sense of the word. 95% of the messages they were obscenities. Personal attacks, and a lot of four letter words, all that kind of stuff. But as a result, because nobody stuck by the rules, the board was closed down. We're going to talk about academic discourse and all that. I think there's a certain structure, a certain process which must be followed in order to benefit everyone I think. I think we cannot simply say disregard obvious process, or the rules and regulations, the terms. At minimum a number of these things are very important.\r\n\r\n- Professor Graf, you pointed out one of the purposes of education was learning, but there's another one that we don't often talk about and that is sorting. I want to ask you both a question about the A word, assessment. Obviously not everyone wants to be a surgeon, or a hospital chaplain , or a professor of literature, or a Dean for God sakes, can be. Anybody can be. So, there is sorting that goes on. There is assessments. I asked the question very broadly, let me ask it very specifically. How do you both grade students?\r\n\r\n- Well, I don't know that I do something that's tremendously different from probably what many of us do. I try to value, I try to reward an intelligent and cogent discussion. I tend to favor argument. I like students to have an argument and have a point. I also value a good deal summary. Listening to other people, reading carefully, and really being able to summarize an argument.\r\n\r\n- You grade them on how well they speak your talk then.\r\n\r\n- In a way yes, though I hope I'm concerned less with superficial features of my talk, or our talk, and more with the deeper substance. How incisively one goes into subject. More and more I ask students to write more drafts than I used to. Trying to dismantle discussion of just turning the paper in and getting a grade, and then it goes down in the poll. I ask for more drafts. I also ask for comments on my comments which has often worked well generating discussion, and again, often flushes out some of the resentments or misunderstandings that students might have about my grading.\r\n\r\n- Because of the nature of the courses that I teach I grade on commitment, what I call commitment. That is I don't grade for product that is how well a person writes because I don't ask people to write finished papers that have a certain structure, or contain certain content. Well, I do ask for some kind of content. I'm asking students to engage in a process. So, what I grade them on is whether they performed the process. Whether they entered fully into the process or not. The requirements of the course are fairly stringent in terms of the amount of work that's required, but not in terms of having to jump over, to meet a certain standard, you just simply have to do it. There is a sense in which whether a student is taking the assignment seriously enough is a judgment call on my part. Sometimes students will do something in my course they're staying on the surface, okay? My colleague, Margaret, the woman that I taught with she was always very good at getting sense of them. We would have two student conferences a semester and that was when we would tell students when we thought they were just kind of... Yes, they were doing the work, but they weren't really digging. So students would have an opportunity to reset their intention. That's the basis on which... Are they doing all the work? Are they coming to all the classes? Are they handing all their assignments in on time and are they really, really there? But I want to go back to this question that was raised by this student before because it's troubling me. I think we would all agree that professors should speak to students where they are. That's the whole point of what Jerry is saying. He wants to initiate students into a certain kind of discourse, and in order to do that you have to begin with a language that people you're trying to initiate can understand 'cause otherwise it won't work. You'll turn people off. That might be easier said than done. I always used to think that I really cared what students thought. That I was one of the ones that really what my students thought, whereas other people didn't really care. It was many years before I discovered that I didn't really care that much about what my students thought. What I really cared about was whether they were talking back to me in the question period in ways that I wanted them to talk. Whether they were talking in the ways, and saying the kinds of things that were the kinds of things that I thought were good and right. And it wasn't until I started teaching differently, namely stepping out of the position being in front of the room and sitting in the back and having student-led classes, and where things kind of really got mixed up and students started to really kind of show who they were that I really got interested in my students. It wasn't until I really got interested in them that I was really able to listen to them, and really hear what they were saying. And not just hear what they were saying as not what I wanted to hear, you know, what I wanted them to say or as what I wanted them to say. So, what I'm saying is that we may think we're listening to our students, we may think we really care what they say, but it's another.... It's not that easy. 30 strangers walk in. Why should you care about them? Why should you want to listen to them, especially when they don't know anything about the thing that you are most about? For me, at any rate, the only way to create that situation is to somehow have these people come into visibility as human beings so that they have voices, they have personalities, they have experiences. There's some content there. And then I can start to really listen to what they say because I have some sort of stake in that. Then I really care what they say. Then I care about finding a way to say what it is that I know in a way that they can hear.\r\n\r\n- I just love what you're saying, but I'm think about people who tend to have radical ideas and are self-indulgent because of small classes where people can become known to one another.\r\n\r\n- Right, lucky us. Lucky people in English.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Hooray for English.\r\n\r\n- But you know, there are many places where it's a large lecture, large lecture, large lecture. And then so what do we do?\r\n\r\n- Well, there were ways of dealing with that too. There it becomes more a matter of technique, and using groups, And there are lots of things that have been developed, techniques that have been developed to deal with large groups of people where people are not silent and so forth. I mean, I haven't become an expert in them because I have been in an incredibly privileged position of teaching seminars of 15. But I know that they exist because I go to conferences where people present on them, and they put you in a room with 200 people and they divide you into groups of eight and do exercises, and you get all excited to talk to everybody's group and have a good time. It isn't that it can't be done. It can't happen, perhaps, in the same way, or at the same level but it's not impossible.\r\n\r\n- Jerry maybe . The big question for you. What might end up being what Jane called, a mean question. The question is, I take it from what you said about Jane's book that you find the kind of writing that she does valuable, and that it gets you thinking, that's true, right?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Okay, that's a big question. The mean question, and I wrote it down to what extent does your pedagogy, with its focus on academic discourse, help any of your students to write the way Jane writes?\r\n\r\n- That's not so mean. I've heard a lot meaner. Not as much as I would like, that is not as much as what I like, but yes, to some extent. I will say this. Jane has come into a number of my classes, and I've gone into a few of hers. One of the best units that I taught, that is that we taught I think, her book really works in my classes. The students don't always agree with her, or don't always agree with me, but they, the issues really speak to them. And yeah, and I think that the teaching her book against I tend to line up Jane's book against some of my stuff, but also Lisa Delpit's book \"Other People's Children\" which makes a very strong argument for directive teaching, being very explicit about the rules and so forth, especially with minority students. That produces fantastic debate that I think, yes, does help students enter the academic conversation. It's not magical, you know. I think it can happen better and I'd like to figure out ways to do it better. So, you know, the answer I guess, is kind of yes and no. If that's the meanest you can get then . This another thing, this is the way my pedagogy has changed by bringing Jane and some others into my class which I think that the effect of the real conversation in the class, the author whose book your teaching coming in really heightens the whole atmosphere of the class and produces, I think, more focused attention and better discussion.\r\n\r\n- I would like to say, and this may seem like a non-sequitur but it really isn't, but Jerry's right about the kind of teaching that I do to the extent that I have an order to develop this other sort of non-standard inside of myself. Had to sort of put on the back burner the kinds of intellectual work that I used to do before I became a sort of boring teacher. So I turned from teaching graduate courses on the latest this, that, or the other thing, to teaching these now, sort of very group therapy-like courses where people talk about their own lives. My interchanges with Jerry have helped me begin to start to reintegrate those two parts of myself so that I'm now more able to kind of let these two parts of my being talk to one another so to speak, and to start to envision the kind of talk, or conversation, or dialogue that is intellectual but that at the same time is never not aware of the human dimension of what's going on in the exchange. I just wanted to make that statement and to express my gratitude to Jerry, who is both, on the one hand, one of the most stimulating and rewarding people to talk to that I've ever run across in the Academy in terms of just sheer intellectual satisfaction. And also at the same time, one of the most congenial and kind, and good-natured people that I have ever run across in the course of having intellectual conversation so that he has by his sort of nature and gifts helped me to kind of reintegrate these two sides of myself. What I wanted to ask you if you could give us a little reflection on the kind of discussion that we've had here tonight. This is the first time, except for this afternoon, that we have done this kind of presentation with two people doing it sort of debate here, and then we did our little exercise and then we opened it up to you. And the reason I'm raising this issue is that lots of times I do workshops or have conducted classes where I use techniques and so forth. And then if the people go away and say, \"Well we never learned anything about teaching.\" Right? Because I didn't call it to their attention that everything that we've been doing was really part of teaching. So, I mean, there, wasn't a huge emphasis on that tonight, but I wonder whether you could comment at all or if you have anything to say on the format of our discussion tonight because it was kind of related to our subject.\r\n\r\n- Just a quick reaction to our pairing off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42742/file/115248#t=0.0,2788.344"}]}]}]}