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We weren't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2737.75,2740.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going to be so cozy but we were with Marcos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2740.09,2742.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Policy didn't change significantly changed a bit","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2744.92,2748.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/825","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but not significantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2748.61,2749.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ever will. When Jimmy Carter left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2752.33,2754.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Washington January of nineteen eighty one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2757.36,2759.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ferdinand Marcos was still the dictator in Manila","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2760.63,2763.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he was a hell of a lot wealthier than he had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2765.71,2767.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"been four years earlier having stolen and pocketed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2767.71,2772.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a few hundred more million dollars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632#t=2772.12,2773.8"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22567/annotation/832","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/567/original/AV203716_Revolution_and_Social_Change_a.vtt?1613489734","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/567/original/AV203716_Revolution_and_Social_Change_a.vtt?1613489734"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22568","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV203716_Revolution_and_Social_Change_a.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105632/transcript/22568/annotation/833","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- I want to make a comment. Gary mentioned revolution and what is revolution. It reminded me as I was listening to him that when I was covering Central America for The New York Times this was 80 81 82 83. The issue came up. What were we going to call these guys on the other side. The the guerrillas call column. Leftist Marxist guerillas insurgents rebels. So I went. I wanted to call them revolutionaries because I thought that really what they were in. And quite frankly I thought that was a value neutral word. And it was more. And I also thought it was more accurate description of what they were and what they were all about. So I went to a dictionary and I looked it up. And the revolution is a total change in the structure of a society economically and politically. And that is probably the most apt definition of what's happening in Central America as well as many other places. I mean it really is a revolution. I might say and I will come back to this. What happened in February nineteen eighty six in the Philippines was not a revolution. What happened. There was an overthrow of a dictator and overthrow of a dictator. It is not a revolution made. And I think we're going to see a revolution in the Philippines. They're going to be a democratic revolution or it's going to be a communist revolution. I think it's going to be one or the other. I think they did the most important question and what I would like to address here tonight is the issue of the United States response to revolutions perhaps United States policies in the Third World. I think the Iran Contra hearings were quite interesting obviously and in many points entertaining as well as quite depressing. But I also think it focused on the wrong question. I don't think the most important question is what Ronald Reagan knew and when. I don't think it's that all that important what William Casey knew. The real question is what is American foreign policy going to be in the third world which means what is the American foreign policy going to be when faced with revolution and when faced with dictators. Because that pretty much defines most of the Third World or most of the Third World where we have an interest perhaps an entire another subject the fact that we don't seem to pay much attention to Third World countries unless they are in revolutionary situations. And that's the way they get our attention is by staging a revolution or having a revolution or going through the revolutionary spasms. And then we pay attention. El Salvador is certainly evidence of that but the search for a response to that is much more difficult. I remember when I was beginning the interviews for the El Salvador book interviewing a very senior person in the Carter administration on the National Security Council. And he said to me something which is really stuck in my mind ever since. He said we're going to have more revolutions and we still haven't learned how to deal with them. I think since Vietnam the Democrats have been lurching from the foreign policy crisis to the next Kovar war with about the only guideline the only guiding principle being somehow to avoid this fear of being accused of being soft on communism. And on the political right. It's very interesting. I read read recently a prominent commentator Paul Weyrich who wrote that the policy of containment of course was George Kennan's policy really the first major foreign policy formulation in the advent of the Cold War. He said Cannon's policy was outdated dysfunctional and unsupportable. And what he said was needed was a new national brand step strategy. Nothing less will address the real problem. I think he's absolutely right. I think a grand strategy is needed. The problem isn't the CIA. The problem isn't the NSC. It's not even the excesses of William Casey or somebody like Lieutenant Colonel Oliver Oliver North. Problem is really how are we going to deal with revolutions and how are we going to deal with dictators. You know Ed the fact that North may not have told the president at all that he did or Casey might not have told the president at all that he did or North may not have told Casey all that he did. That's really nothing new. Presidents since Eisenhower have looked to the CIA and the NSC and other bodies of the government to carry out secret foreign policy. One thing is North and Casey whether or not they told the president the details of what they were doing we're doing what the president wanted in the broadest sense. On the one hand he returned the hostages. And on the other hand to get rid of the Sandinistas. And that's the it's the policy in Central America where I think we should really start because that's where the revolution has been the most prominent at least in terms of American foreign policy. I'm reminded of the whole issue of revolution something that William Sloane Coffin former chaplain at Yale and more recently at Riverside Church in New York once said this was on the. And I clipped it and carried it around with me. This was on the occasion of the Fourth of July some years ago in The New York Times asked various people to comment. And William Sloane Coffin said We are a conservative nation because we have a lot to conserve. Said while most of the world is revolutionary because who wants to conserve. Malnutrition illiteracy and infant mortality rates were one out of 10 children dies before the age of one year old. That probably explains why so much of the world is revolutionary. You want to understand the causes of the turmoil in Central America and El Salvador and in Nicaragua. I would refer you to something that was written many years ago. It was an analysis of the situation in El Salvador and the writer said. I imagine that the situation here is much like it was in Mexico before its revolution much like it was in the Soviet Union before its revolution. A revolution here is inevitable. El Salvador might be 10 10 years or 20 years or 30 years but when it comes it will be bloody. And the reasons he said and he went on to describe what El Salvador El Salvador looked like at the time he said on the streets all about where pure serros and Packards. And he said in the countryside there were the oxen ox drawn carts and barefooted attendants. The rich seem to have everything he said. They send their children to the best schools in Europe while the poor have nothing. Now that was written in nineteen thirty one and it was written by an American army major. Think about that. Nineteen thirty one that Fidel Castro was five years old. He was still in short pants running around and his father's sugar cane fields. Nobody heard of the Sandinistas. The Cold War hadn't even been conjured up. Didn't exist yet. Those are the causes of the turmoil in El Salvador. And it was perpetuated after that from 1931 for another 50 years. The rich had everything the poor had nothing and the military was in power. There was always a general or a colonel or a group of them wearing the presidential sash that kept the poor poor and in line while the rich got richer. In some ways it is really quite simple. It's poverty and repression explains the revolutionary nature the revolutionary situation in El Salvador as well as many other places. Certainly Nicaragua Nicaragua. History very similar. We put the Somoza's in power. We had the Marines in Nicaragua for many many many years. When the Marines finally left the Somoza family was entrenched in the Somoza family ran the place becoming richer and richer while the poor group poorer and poorer. Even the State Department once called this the most Somoza regime. A and his family a kleptocracy. I think they're gonna have to come up with a new name a new description for the Marcos's. And what is our been our response. We ignored the situation in Central America in El Salvador. Totally up until five years ago six years ago. More people knew about El Salvador as a place to go surfing. And there wasn't much of that down there then for any other reason. We gave them a few million dollars a year in aid. It wasn't until the revolution actually in exile after even after the successful revolution in Nicaragua until the Sandinistas came to power that we came to pay any attention to El Salvador. And I suppose El Salvador today would be widely considered a success. The Republicans certainly think it is. And I doubt that many of the presidential Democratic presidential candidates if you ask them which I think you should. But I think I was an appropriate place for a conference of this nature a week of this nature because I think there are some tough questions you ought to be asking the candidates. And hopefully you'll set the tone of the debate. Hopefully it'll get off whether they smoke marijuana or what they've done with the rest of their private lives. She should ask him some tough questions about American foreign policy and where it's going and what there is will be. And don't accept generalized answers but demand specifics and details. But I think if you ask most of the Democratic candidates very few of them will criticize the policy in El Salvador. Most think that it's worth it. It has worked. Has it. Maybe. I suppose on a superficial level it has on the surface. Fewer people are being killed although I hope our standard is never that. Ten thousand people a year killed is where we judge from. And yet that's what it is. Two years ago what. Nineteen eighty nineteen eighty one. It was a thousand or more a month. Peasants being killed decapitated bodies on the streets. Pregnant women that had their belly slit open. Doesn't happen as much today still happens. We call it a success because it doesn't happen as frequently. I suppose the policy would be deemed a success or at least this administration would define it as such. And I suspect most Democrats would also because the ethanol and the guerrilla organization the revolutionary organization and they clearly do want a revolution hasn't taken over the country. I suppose it might be considered a success because the party is an elected president. Whether you can put the a. democratically elected president. I'm not sure. The reason I would question whether he was a Democratic whether it was a democratic election was because of our involvement. No we paid something like three million dollars into the 1982 and 1984 campaign secretly the CIA. Is that a democratic election. Imagine if we had found that the KGB had spent ten dollars and the Nicaraguans elections which we already have blank branded as Sham's. But still we have to recognize there have been some changes and improvements in El Salvador. But there are still death squads. We've seen that recently. The head of the Human Rights Commission in San Salvador was gunned down. And no one has been punished in the military. Not one officer not one officer has been put on trial. Are you ever going to have a democracy in any of these countries if the military doesn't accept its place as defenders of the countries and not runners of the country. Think what I'll find seen is done in Argentina is the model of course but even he is realized there's limits. But Workday has not even been able to press against those limits. So I hardly think we have a real what we'd call a real democracy in El Salvador. But I think the most important question the more important question is not what we have today and what successes but what price we paid for those successes. Well the price in dollar terms is about a billion dollars one billion dollars we've spent in El Salvador since nineteen eighty one alone. I remember in early nineteen eighty one like in March or April the Reagan administration request went to Congress for four more military aid for El Salvador. They asked for twenty five million dollars. They said this is the last request. We won't come back. That's all we need. Well at twenty five million grew into one hundred million to a couple hundred million to five hundred million. And it's now a billion dollars. We're spending a million. Is a day and El Salvador. The temptation to be to know what. Many better things that money could be spent on in the United States. Farmers in Iowa if you will the homeless in New York wherever. But putting aside that real question what we've gotten for a policy that's costing us a million dollars a day as well as well how many tens of thousands of lives how many people have been killed in El Salvador unnecessarily. And I really think unnecessarily because there was another way negotiations and negotiated settlement has long been a possibility in El Salvador. Back in 1981 a negotiated settlement is a possibility. We may now see negotiations in El Salvador as well as in Nicaragua but it has very little to do with the United States. And in fact it's over the objections of the United States of Washington that we might see a negotiated settlement to the turmoil in Central America. That is well realized by now that Arias and Costa Rica proposed a plan for settling the situation in Central America which was not well-received in Washington by the Reagan administration. Fortunately Arias received the Nobel Peace Prize which gave him even more influence and clout. And at the same time I think the Reagan administration has been weakened considerably by a number of things. Iran Contra gate certainly being one. Consequently it doesn't have as much influence over foreign policy as it once had. So the negotiated way which was available five years ago when far fewer people would then have been killed is now a possibility just like it is in Nicaragua and Nicaragua. Of course our policy has been the Contras. And we used to in fact I think when I was here three years ago spent maybe 10 minutes. Talking about what the real purpose of the Contras was I believe it was somebody from the State Department sitting about right over there during my talk. And he had spoken I think before I did. The argument drew the line at the time was that the Contras were only intended to interdict the flow of arms to Nicaragua. I mean to El Salvador from Nicaragua was preposterous. Many as many of us at the time were saying it was preposterous that the purpose of policy was to overthrow the Sandinistas. And that's absolutely true. There's no doubt about it. Reagan made that clear when he was asked at a press conference. One of the Sandinistas have to do cry. Uncle Ken became even clearer during the Iran Contra hearings. That was the purpose of the policy to get rid of the Sandinistas. Now the question ought to be do we want a policy of that nature. Are we gonna go around overthrowing governments. Even assuming putting aside for the moment what the Sandinistas are even assuming they're a communist nation. Was that the best policy to affect change in Nicaragua a war policy. It really was a war. There's a war in which we let Nicaraguans do the fighting and the dying. We hired a mercenary army so we wouldn't have to send American boys to fight and die in Central America. But it was a war policy. Get diplomacy but get aid. It was almost like they could have eliminated the State Department. And in fact in Central America for much of the last five years the State Department has been shunted aside. It was a Pentagon policy a CIA policy in Nicaragua. Two ambassadors I can tell you the last two ambassadors to Nicaragua were not very enamored of the policy and consequently for the most part were cut out. But what's the basis for this policy. That that's the not question. Why have we had a policy of propping up successive governments in El Salvador Duarte only the most recent with a million dollars a day. Why. We had a policy of trying to overthrow the Sandinistas. It's often find that when I give talks and talk about the situation in Central America and explain what has happened. The first question I get is but why. Why we've been doing that. Why do we support these brutal governments in El Salvador. Why are we trying to get rid of the Sandinistas. Well let's start by eliminating a couple of categories. The first is national security. Our policy in Central America is not based on national security certainly not in El Salvador in 1977. It's not that long ago. It's even less long ago when you start from the perspective of nineteen eighty one which when we really embarked on this policy just four years before that the Republican ambassador in El Salvador a businessman said we have no national interest in El Salvador. I can tell you most ambassadors think the country where they serve is the most important. Just like most reporters think the country they're covering is the most important astonishing statement. We have no national interest in El Salvador he said. And at the same time the Latin desk and the State Department which again each desk tends to inflate the importance of the area of the world whether it's the Asian desk or the European desk or the African desk the eight the Latin American desk said the same thing separately. They were it wasn't a joint effort by the ambassador and the State Department. We have no security interests in El Salvador. And why have we spent a billion dollars. Of course we're going to stop the Soviet Union from putting missiles in Nicaragua. That's not really what was at stake with the war to get rid of the Sandinistas with the culture war. Nobody serious believe the Sandinistas were gonna try that. And if they were going to try that we knew how to deal with it just like we dealt with it in Cuba in 1962. You have the base policy on some relationship with reality. Not some conjured up fear of something that might possibly happen at some unforeseen time has to base the policy has to be based on reality not on paranoia. So it wasn't national security. It's not sea lanes you know. Remember we heard that sea lanes argument that they've eliminated that one. We don't hear that much anymore. But initially that was the reason for the policy are sea lanes were threatened. Well how many times where that we heard it in Angola. Kissinger wanted to send troops into Angola to protect our sea lanes when Angola's been Marxist now for how many years. And the sea lanes haven't been threatened. And moreover Gulf oil finds a great place to do business and finds the March's government defending and protecting their profits. Mozambique. I mean we've heard it all the time. The sea lanes have to be protected. It's not national security. And we'll go to the second not if you will. It's not economics. And I come back to this and actually argue the other side later. But in Central America I don't think it's economic determinism. I don't think it's our economic factors. Business doesn't drive the policy in Central America. If El Salvador Nicaragua the whole place when Marxist Leninist communist and whatever whatever all that means but they sure let's assume they threw out all the multinational corporations and you wouldn't see a flutter on Wall Street. Even the Wall Street of four weeks ago wouldn't be any effect on. Bottom line the profits of American corporations. These countries Nicaragua has no oil no copper no gold no silver no minerals. And we don't need their bananas and coffee. And the markets are too poor for most of our products. Cheap labor. Yes but it's cheap labor. Unfortunately in lots of parts of the world I'm not saying economics might not be a factor in the policy but it's not a significant one. I think it's important to get rid of this idea. I think is a hangover from an earlier era that somehow there's an economic engine driving our foreign policy. It's not markets and it's not resources at least not in the sense that determine why Spain and Portugal and Britain colonized the world so many years earlier. I think the reasons are too for the policy Central America and elsewhere. One is we see ourselves as a world power. We are a world power. That may be the toughest question we have to ask ourselves. An issue we have to face. But as a world power we really can't accept that. We can't control and dictate to the rest of the world and other countries how they're going to govern them govern themselves. Doesn't square with our concept of ourselves as a world power. And that leads to what I think is the overriding reason and that's ideology. And that's really what the policy is about the Central American ideology of anticommunism. We have a mindset and it goes like this. Revolution equals leftist equals Marxist equals the Soviet Union. That's really the mindset that guides the foreign policy and guides the thinking of many Americans. Put aside for the moment what is Marxist Leninism. I think that the more I read about it the harder I find it is to define. But we have this mindset that all revolutions are going to be Marxist and all Marxist revolutions are going to be pro Soviet. It's a left. It's a hangover. It's it's leftover from the Who Lost China debate the 1940's. Mout succeeded in his communist revolution. In China and the Democrats because it was on their watch have been atoning for it ever since. And that was followed of course by the McCarthy years and McCarthyism when everybody was ducking understandably from charges of being soft on communism or a communist. And now those eras those debates still overhanging our foreign policy. The Who Lost China debate. It's still who lost Nicaragua. Assuming Nicaragua is lost. We never ask who lost a country to a wing dictator. We never ask who lost Chile to Pinochet. We don't have congressional hearings or congressional inquiries into that. We don't have any congressional hearings or congressional inquiries into who lost the Philippines to Marcos for 20 years. But when a country becomes what goes leftist. Then the charges and there really charges more than questions about who lost. And it really does go back to who lost China. And from that the fear of communism the anticommunism paranoia. And it's the same fear of communism the fear of being thought soft on communism which I believe goes far to explaining our relationships with dictators. Marcus is really a case study and now are. Let's turn to the Philippines for a moment or to the other side which is that the dictator dictatorial side. On the one hand we need a foreign policy that deals with revolutions. On another one we need a foreign policy that deals with dictators. And the two are actually related because what happens is by supporting dictators for so long we guarantee that we're going to have the very revolution that we don't want. That's the lesson of the dictators. The lesson of the dictators isn't that by abandoning Somoza that by abandoning the Shah that by abandoning Batista in Cuba we get something worse. By abandoning Somoza we got Khomeini that by abandoning somewhat excuse me by abandoning Somoza we got the Sandinistas out by abandoning the Shah. We got Khomeini that by abandoning Batista we got Castro. The lesson is the very opposite. It's because we stuck with those people for so long. We guaranteed an outcome we didn't want. I was reading just today. I mean it's something unknown but there's a new book out. Something has been written about before but there's yet another book out about it on Nicaragua and what happened. Written by someone who had been in the Carter administration. And one of the points that he makes is that in 1977 78 79 early 79 when the Carter administration decided that it need to put some distance between Washington and Somoza. And then it began it was necessary to begin to look for democratic alternatives or for democracy. Looked around and they couldn't find anybody. The Sandinistas were what it was a group that had the power. Why. Because during those years of the Somoza rule just like during the years of the Marcos rule and elsewhere the democratically inclined or eliminated killed or they go to the hills. There are no democratic outlet. There were no is to use the jargon moderate democratic forces in Nicaragua nineteen 1977 1978 1979. They hadn't been killed. They'd given up and joined forces with the Sandinistas who had the guns because with guns were the only way you're going to bring down the dictator. I remember being in the Philippines in nineteen eighty. This was before Marcos fell. Nineteen eighty four and a woman very middle class not particularly polite politically active. She said to me what's our choice. What's our alternative to Marcos. Who else is organized. It was there were no democratic options to Marcos either or they weren't as strong as the NPA which New People's Army which is a communist guerrilla organization in the Philippines. So we guarantee the very thing. And Marcos is the case study. At one point I considered writing a book about five U.S. dictators U.S. relations with five dictators. I was gonna take the Shah Somoza Batista Dam and Vietnam. And then I decided to focus on a nicker on the Philippines for a couple of reasons actually. One I thought at the time that the Philippines was gonna become another Central Americans. As 1983 1984 Aquino would have just been assassinated. And you could plug in the Aquino assassination for the assassination of tomorrow. And in Nicaragua which really polarized the country and as it polarized the Philippines plug in one corrupt dictator Marcos for another corrupt dictator Somoza you plug in one alphabet communist insurgency. Dig me a guerrilla movement communist revolution the NPA in the Philippines or the SML and or the FSL in El Salvador and in Nicaragua. You had a church very divided in Central America and a church that was very divided in the Philippines with the hierarchy of the church being being quite conservative in Central America as well as in the Philippines. And yet the younger priests and nuns being much more liberal and many of them siding with the revolutionary efforts again and in large measure because there were no alternatives to the dictatorships. The more I looked at the Philippine situation the more interesting it became particularly Marcos. One one striking point about the Philippines and that is that our first covert operations began in the Philippines. And indeed the man who is the father of really counterinsurgency in the United States began in the Philippines at the age of 72. He was called back in to advise on what we should do in Nicaragua. And that man was Ed Landsdale at Landsdale who was the model for not one but two novels. He's all in Pile and Graham Greene's The Quiet American. And he's Colonel Hillendale in The Ugly American. Ed Landsdale was also the model for one Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North when Landsdale got his start in the Philippines in the 1950s. That's where we fought our first counterinsurgency war or at least the first one of the Cold War. It was in the Philippines. There are people who said CIA officers and others that our involvement in Vietnam really began in the Philippines in the early 1950s because of our successful counterinsurgency effort there. Let me read you something that was written terms when we look at the region and what lies behind American foreign policy. This was written in nineteen forty seven by George Kennan George Kennan is probably one of the most brilliant foreign policy analysts in American history certainly one of the best writers. You may not always agree with him. He was the author of the containment policy but he was a clear thinker and writer Kennan wrote 1947. We have about 50 percent of the world's wealth but only six point three percent of its population. This disparity is particularly greatest between ourselves and the peoples of Asia. In this situation we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. We should dispense with the aspiration to be liked or to be regarded as the repository of a high minded international all truism. We should stop putting ourselves in the position of being our brother's keeper and refrain from offering moral and ideological advice. We should cease to talk about vague and for the Far East unreal objectives such as human rights the raising of living standards and democratization. Then he said there are two countries where we had to put this into practice. Japan and the Philippines. Now some of you are probably saying that that contradicts what I said earlier about economics not being the driving force of our foreign policy. I agree there's some inconsistencies but I also think the economic factors have not been significant in El Salvador and Central America and Nicaragua. Nor do I think they are as significant in other parts of the world today. I think they've been overtaken by the ideological aversion to communism and fear of communism. And in part of the reason I think economics is in such a strong factor is quite frankly most most of the world's leading capitalists have discovered they can do business in socialist countries. I mean look at all the capitalists streaming into the Soviet Union particularly China today. I mean Pepsi-Cola has been in the Soviet Union for a number of years. And David Rockefeller came back from some of the socialist Marxist countries in South and South Africa in southern Africa two years ago and came back and said you know we can do business with these countries. But certainly back then at that time economics was a very strong factor. Anyhow Landsdale fought the war to keep the Philippines safe for the United States and safe from communism. Some of the tactics he used were a bit questionable in the name of democracy I suppose. One of the things he did he was offered five million dollars by the CIA director and Landsdale being a man who had no doubt about his abilities said he only needed a million dollars. So a million dollars was brought into the country in suitcases which Landsdale then proceeded to use for the camp for the campaign of a man named Ramone Magsaysay. I mean Bagci side became president of the Philippines because we ran his campaign in large part and we really ran the man's campaign. We financed it. We had a CIA officer undercover as a journalist. Sorry to say who wrote Magsaysay speeches. We went so far as to drug the drinks of the incumbent president man named Carino who is my excises opponent. We had drugged his drink so that he would slur his words and appearing coherent. When Landsdale needed more money than the million dollars he went around to various American companies in the Philippines and said Why don't you contribute. Of course they did not. Everything Landsdale did was quite so humorous. There was one of my EXORCIZE opponents after he was elected was a man named Chloro Recto a senator a Philippine senator. There was an assassination plot on him. This was long before the assassination plots on Castro and one that wasn't uncovered by the CIA investigations in the 1970s. They threw the vial containing a substance that was going to be used. The plot was eventually abandoned. Apparently this vial was tossed in the Manila Bay on a somewhat more humorous side. Yes I think Landsdale must have had a fairly active fraternity life. One of his other ideas for Recto was to prepare a box of condoms with pinpricks in the most inappropriate place and then to have little cards and pass these out and say courtesy of Senator Recto. Those were a few of the things we did in the name of democracy in the Philippines. Nevertheless the whole war was fought. The counterinsurgency war was fought in the name of. Democracy which raises more acutely the question of why was it that we allowed Marcos did destroy democracy in the Philippines because it will allow Marcos to get away with it in the Philippines then I think you should be able to understand that we're probably going to allow in just about any dictator to get away with it just about anywhere because our relationship with the Philippines is such that it is one place where you thought we would have taken an extra strong stand in the name of democracy. It is after all our only former colony. It's a colony where we had a moderately. I'd be more than that. We had a pretty positive role. You can debate how positive and it probably isn't as good as our textbooks make it out to be but it is certainly better than the Spanish role in Latin America and the Portuguese and the French role around the world. I did say it was on par with what the British did in India and Malaysia. We certainly set the pillars of a democracy in the Philippines provided for an educational system. Political parties courts. Was Marcos that destroyed all that. Remember Marcus was democratically elected elected democratically Philippines style as they say in 1965. Re-elected in 1969. A little help. In sixty nine he sent one of his honchos to the central bank withdrew some 15 or 20 million pesos put them in envelopes divided them up into various amounts put them in envelopes and flew around the country in an Air Force jet Air Force plane and distributed them to various precinct captains mayors politicians to make sure they turned out the vote for Marcos. Marcos had another asset and I was his wife who is actually quite a vigorous campaigner. Imelda was. She would sing a song and huge crowds would gather. Marcos won again in 69. Many had a real problem. The Constitution said two terms which meant the Marcos could not run again. In 1973 the man who probably would have won a run and probably won and become president would have been building no Ninoy Aquino Marcos. Faced with this not wanting to leave power declared martial law and the United States accepted it. Why. The conventional history by the way is that the United States knew nothing about martial law that we didn't know it was coming. We were caught flat footed. Not true. We knew it was coming. The CIA and in fact done its work and done its work very well. They had infiltrated the Marko's government. Marko's plan martial law with 12 of what we thought was 12 is actually in fact it was twelve most trusted advisers 11 army officers military officers and one civilian. The CIA had gone to one of the men and he betrayed Marcus gave the CIA a copy of the martial law decree several days before it was issued. Then in addition Marcus had several car at least two conversations with Nixon prior to martial law in which he got the green light. Nixon has denied that several other people say that those conversations took place. Important thing is though and the issue is why did the United States remain silent in the face of the destruction of democracy in the Philippines. Well Marcus let me tell you something about Marcus is a very smart man. He is a brilliant politician. I think if he hadn't declared martial law if he hadn't become the avaricious dictator that he did he would have gone down as one of the greatest leaders in Asia in the 20th century and maybe one of the greatest third world leaders in the 20th century. Very astute politician. And he knew the United States and he knew the United States very well. He knew the United States and our system of government far better than we ever knew the Philippines. And their system of government even though we had given them that system of government we didn't really know how it operated. So when Marcos declared martial law. Very lawyer like Marcos is a lawyer. Most dictators when they declare martial law they simply abolish the Constitution bring out the tanks and take over. Marcos does it legal like he declares a proclamation. Was this proclamation that the CIA had an advance 18 paragraphs in this proclamation. 17 of them whereas clauses whereas whereas whereas. Whereas. Whereas. Therefore I now under the powers in the Constitution hereby declare martial law. What were 17 of the 18 whereas clauses. The threat of communism. The commies were coming. The Commies were coming. Marko's knew how to get America on board raise the red flag and we salute the Nixon administration. Was it till that time the most conservative administration in Washington. Nixon had ridden the wave of anticommunism from California to the White House. So all Marko's had to do was to say the communists were a threat and the United States endorsed martial law. The communists were not a threat period. It's that simple. The communists are a threat today in the Philippines but they weren't in 1972. The number of members of the Communist Party in the Philippines in 1972 was between three hundred and eighty five and a thousand. Those are my figures. Those are figures from classified U.S. government documents at the time. Three hundred eighty five. Two thousand. There weren't enough communists to pull off a good bank heist let alone take over a country of seven thousand islands. You know they wouldn't even admit I've been a good sell of some of the revolutionary movements in Central America. It was a joke. There was no communist threat. Marcos new play on the American fear of communism. And you'll have American support. And that's what he got. And the policy really didn't change that much. Visa v Marko's. For the next 14 years not until he departed and it didn't change under the Carter administration. And that's probably the most important period to look at. I think if we're going to ask the questions about American foreign policy. Because if it didn't change under the Carter administration if the Carter administration continued to support a dictator then I think it's doubtful that we're ever going to have a change in our foreign policy. Because remember the Carter administration had the human rights policy Carter said in a speech at Notre Dame that human rights would be the soul of our foreign policy. Carter said it was a new day for dictators. We going to deal with them differently. We weren't going to be so cozy but we were with Marcos. Policy didn't change significantly changed a bit but not significantly. Ever will. When Jimmy Carter left. Washington January of nineteen eighty one. 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Not bad for a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=13.52,16.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"woman of no inherited wealth and not much","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=16.86,20.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"entrepreneurial talent either I should tell you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=20.91,22.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The joke back then and it was back then in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=26.38,28.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1970s not 1985 was what's the biggest company","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=28.63,33.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"industry in the Philippines. Mellors Mining","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=36.01,39.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Company. That's mine. That's mine. That's mine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=39.79,42.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's mine. And that's exactly how she did it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=42.82,45.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She wanted twenty five thousand fifty thousand one","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=46.87,49.06"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hundred thousand. And then after martial law was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=49.06,50.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"declared she became more brazen. She wanted 10","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=50.89,52.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"percent 25 percent 50 percent 100 percent of a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=52.81,55.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"company. And she got it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=55.33,56.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was as it's been. It was. It was you talk about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=58.96,62.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Sandinistas in Marxist government taking over","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=62.3,65.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the economy. I mean the Markus's could teach me a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=65.26,68.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thing or two about how to take over economies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=68.02,70.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was Marko's socialism if you will. They own the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=75.07,78.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"country and the economy they divided it up. They","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=78.51,80.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gave the coconut monopoly to relay the defense","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=80.52,83.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"minister again the sugar monopoly to another","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=83.01,85.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"friend. They gave the Toyota dealership in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=85.44,87.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mindanao to someone else. They just divided up the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=87.3,90.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"economy took it over ran it and pilfered it. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=90.18,94.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we knew this was going on. The Carter","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=94.26,96.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"administration knew it. You remember in nineteen","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=96.0,99.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"eighty one George Bush went to the Philippines. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=101.37,105.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember this. He'd be toasted the Markus's and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=105.09,107.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said We love your adherence to democratic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=107.61,110.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"principles. 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And how much. The question","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=1767.7,1770.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/538","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was how much are we providing the Philippines","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=1770.88,1772.91"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/539","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right now and how much of it is military. 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I said earlier at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2666.45,2668.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/803","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the very beginning poverty and repression are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2668.61,2671.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"probably what fuels revolutions not the Soviet","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2671.07,2673.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Union or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2673.74,2674.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"China or Cuba or any place else. And he's still","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2677.13,2679.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"got extreme poverty in Peru. And in fact without","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2679.71,2684.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that that poverty without the space on the left I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2684.09,2687.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think Sendero would be a lot stronger. No there's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2687.66,2691.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"no question. In Peru there's also a great deal of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2691.74,2694.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"racism against the Indians. And the Indians are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2694.68,2699.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the ones who are mostly involved in the revolution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2699.3,2701.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it's being fought up in the mountains and that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2701.31,2703.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some of the most impoverished areas I've I've ever","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2703.69,2706.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seen. Those people are living like they did two","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2706.35,2709.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"centuries ago not 20 years ago or even two hundred","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2709.02,2712.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years ago. They're still living without roads.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2712.62,2715.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right. I guess two more questions here in here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2720.3,2725.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As you say quite often. Know they do it. Is there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2731.16,2735.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"room is the room for change. What's at the end of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2735.13,2737.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the pipe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2737.83,2738.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well first why didn't he. Carter couldn't do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2742.06,2744.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He wouldn't he didn't do it. And if he didn't do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2746.83,2749.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it. You know you have to ask will a Democratic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2749.11,2754.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/825","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"administration do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2755.17,2756.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it raises the questions most acutely","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2758.33,2760.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because Carter did have a human rights policy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2760.33,2762.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm certainly not going to get into endorsing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2765.34,2767.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"candidates.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2767.32,2767.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What does somebody like me do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2773.05,2774.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=2816.44,2816.84"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22569/annotation/832","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/569/original/AV203716_Revolution_and_Social_Change_b.vtt?1613489739","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/022/569/original/AV203716_Revolution_and_Social_Change_b.vtt?1613489739"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22570","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV203716_Revolution_and_Social_Change_b.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633/transcript/22570/annotation/833","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- The little informal study back in 1973 in Manila concluded that Imelda Marcos was worth a mere one hundred and fifty million dollars. Not bad for a woman of no inherited wealth and not much entrepreneurial talent either I should tell you. The joke back then and it was back then in the 1970s not 1985 was what's the biggest company industry in the Philippines. Mellors Mining Company. That's mine. That's mine. That's mine. That's mine. And that's exactly how she did it. She wanted twenty five thousand fifty thousand one hundred thousand. And then after martial law was declared she became more brazen. She wanted 10 percent 25 percent 50 percent 100 percent of a company. And she got it. It was as it's been. It was. It was you talk about the Sandinistas in Marxist government taking over the economy. I mean the Markus's could teach me a thing or two about how to take over economies. It was Marko's socialism if you will. They own the country and the economy they divided it up. They gave the coconut monopoly to relay the defense minister again the sugar monopoly to another friend. They gave the Toyota dealership in Mindanao to someone else. They just divided up the economy took it over ran it and pilfered it. And we knew this was going on. The Carter administration knew it. You remember in nineteen eighty one George Bush went to the Philippines. I remember this. He'd be toasted the Markus's and said We love your adherence to democratic principles. The clanger that has been hung around Bush's neck perhaps rightly. But in 1978 Walter Mondale went to the Philippines and Walter Mondale toasted democracy didn't make quite the same statement used the same words but he lifted a glass literally. There's a photo in the book to the Marcos's. That was in May of 1978. In January of 1978 there were five Front-Page stories in The New York Times. People often criticized The New York Times for its reporting by Front-Page stories in The New York Times about corruption in the Marko's government had no. No impact on the Carter administration policy. This is what was known publicly in addition to what the Carter administration knew from CIA and its own sources. In April of 1978 there was an election in the Philippines a Marcos style election. Let me tell you something called the Sandinistas. The elections in 1980 for Soviet style sham elections. Marcos could teach him a thing or two about how to conduct Soviet style sham elections. He'd run these elections so he'd get eighty five ninety ninety five ninety eight percent of the vote. Or Amelda would he hold an election in 1978 grossly fraudulent. It was it wasn't a presidential election. This was gonna be an election. Usually what he did was hold plebiscites. Do you want me to continue or do you want martial law to continue. It's amazing what the results would be that have show hands. Ninety eight percent wanted martial law to continue. This election was designed to appease the Carter administration to talk about human rights. He held an election for a national assembly. The votes started coming in. Amelda was way at the bottom. A poll had recently been done by a magazine there but the 10 most respected people in the Philippines were most not not in the Philippines in the world or wherever. Amelda came in sixth. And she she had the magazine confiscated and didn't allow it to be published. Didn't didn't appease or any that she was 16. Jesus Christ was nine. The votes came in Imelda Marcos bottom. So they just rigged the election. And she finished first after the corruption being publicly known after a grossly fraudulent election. Mondale goes to the Philippines and toast the Markus's. So where's the change and why then why was the Carter administration so cozy with Marcos. I think the only explanation is this overweening fear of being accused of being soft on communism. A Democratic administration was not going to push out a pro-American conservative dictator. It was for the Reagan administration to finally do that. When it happened. In fact Richard Holbrooke who had been the head of the Asian bureau in the State Department during the Carter administration was really the architect of the Carter administration policy in the Philippines. Holbrooke said when Marcos was overthrown and toppled thank God it happened on the Republican watch. If it were to happen on our watch me and the Democrats it would have split the country. I'm not so sure he's right but it certainly shows that the fear that the Democrats have that they can't be tough on dictators. The Carter administration was not tough on Marcus. They had virtually nothing to show at least on the Democratic ledger on the human rights ledger on the restoration of democracy during four years. Now granted the Marcos's were much happier when the Reagan administration was elected because the Reagan administration was kind of like the Carter administration especially Pat Darian you remember was the head of the Human Rights Bureau. She was an irritant in their side. There's no question she kept talking about human rights in democracies didn't like that. And the defense minister and relaying a lot of other people didn't like it. It was kind of the Carter administration policy was a bit like flies at a picnic. Well they were bothersome and nettlesome pestering but they didn't really do much damage. But when the Reagan administration came in of course even the flies were gone and it was just a picnic. And the Reagan administration became very very close to the Markus's. The Markus's came for a state visit in 1982. It was a glorious relationship. It was a new day for dictators and a glorious relationship between the United States and Marko's fact. The American ambassador at the time was a man named Mark Michael Armacost as the American ambassador in the Philippines. He was so close to the Marcos's that he was seen with a Melda it seemed almost every day. And in one picture he's holding or holding a parasol for a melda. Thought it was a metaphor for the policy arm a car. He was so close to them that they called Armacost. They dubbed him our Marcus' and Amah Close. And then it all changed. But it didn't change when you think it did. Aquino was assassinated in August 1983. That changed. Mike Armacost and Mike Armacost went on to be a real leader of the of what eventually resulted in the ouster of Marcos and the ascension of Corazon Aquino. But the Aquino assassination did not change American policy as horrible as that assassination was in August of 1983. The fact that Ninoy Aquino had been assassinated as he came off the plane and we knew that the Marcos government was involved somehow may not have known the exact details and we may never know. Although I say in the book that I think Amelda was probably more involved than than Ferdinand Marcos. And yet we still continue to embrace Marcos. And in fact in October of 1983 three months after the assassination Bush was asked about Marcos and he said oh I don't really believe you would have done that. That's not something he would. He's still a wonderful man. The policy began to change in August. I mean it's the summer of 1980 for the American policy. And what changed it. A 76 page document came in from the cable came in from the embassy in Manila. The subject the new People's Army birth development and growth of the communists in the Philippines. And one of the conclusions was that they were rapidly growing more powerful and that the longer longer Marcos remained in power the more likely it was that the communist might eventually come to power. That's what changed our policy in the Philippines. That's when we began to look for democracy because the communists are posing a serious threat. It's an irony a tragic irony as the communists finally get get us to begin to think about democracy in the Philippines. Even then the administration wasn't sure what to do and for the most part wanted Marcos to reform. They adopted a reform policy. They want to reform the economy reform the political system reform the military. It's always the American policy reform. We want to D.M. the reform in Vietnam. Remember the reform then too. We wanted to to reform. We wanted some sort of reform. These guys don't reform you know asking Marcos to reform the economy reform the military allow for political freedom. Those are the pillars that held them up. It's asking Samsun to cut his hair. He wasn't going to do it. We couldn't admit that because that would be to admit the policy had been wrong for 10 15 years. The undoing of Marcos was not American policy. The undoing of Marcos was Marcos. Ferdinand Marcos hadn't called for that election when he did. Remember there wasn't supposed to be an election until 1987 until this year. Marcos called what was called a snap election. He announced that he will snap election in October was held in February. But Marcos hadn't called that election. That's snap election. I think he'd still be president of the Philippines today. Still be president even as it was is much what happened after that is pretty recent history. And you probably followed it in the newspaper and on television. Something important to realize. The Reagan White House there's a split in policy. And sometimes when you talk about American foreign policy you have to divide the State Department from other agencies from the White House or from the NSC or the CIA the State Department in the Reagan White House. We're really on two different tracks. They weren't they weren't confrontational as they became over the arms sales to Iran but they were really on two different tracks. The State Department was tilting and I use that word advisedly. They weren't openly supporting but they were certainly tilting towards Corazon Aquino whereas the White House was supporting Marcos. Remember one week before that election Donald Regan who was the White House chief of staff at the time was asked on this week with David Brinkley what events abroad. What if it's a grossly fraudulent election. I think Sam Donaldson I think has a question. So what if it was a fraudulent grossly fraudulent election. And Regan answered There are a lot of fraudulently elected governments around the world and we do business with them cavalier. But sadly it's a reflection of American policy. But it's clear they were gonna support Marcos. Remember when Reagan made President Reagan made the statement on the Tuesday night after the election the election and then on Sunday. There was a press conference on Tuesday night and Reagan said there was fraud on both sides. Another clanger heard round the world because all anybody who's been watching television or reading the newspapers had seen was that the fraud had been perpetrated by the Marcos forces. Reagan said a fraud on both sides. Some people said oh was just a blunder. It was a slip. He didn't understand it didn't mean to say it. Nonsense. He was reflecting the policy and the policy was still to support Marcus. It wasn't until the very end until the Filipino people took to the streets until a game was over. Tell us. Realized that Marcus couldn't hold on. I mean it was eleven fifty nine. Fifty nine. Fifty nine. The finger was on the buzzer before Reagan before the White House finally decided that Marcus had to go. And that brings us to Akino and maybe back to Central America. And more revolution. Because we are going to have a revolution in the Philippines. Let me let me close because I want to allow you to answer questions and I've talked for almost an hour and all these other points I want to cover and I can answer and I can cover in your questions. I'm sure exiting an hour is about long enough without asking questions. This is a CIA report. National Intelligence Estimate observed that the Philippines was beset by and I quote land hunger in the countryside. Unemployment in the cities and a grinding poverty for the overwhelming majority of the people. Without a program to address basic domestic socio economic problems nationalism and discontent are likely to lend themselves to leftist exploitation. That was written 1965 in the Philippines. Could be written it could've been written by a lot of countries because that's the causes of the revolution and social change that you're talking about. What was written in the Philippines in 1965 applies in the Philippines in nineteen eighty seven. Unless something is done to deal with the land hunger in the countryside and the grinding poverty for the overwhelming majority of the people the communist revolution is going to continue to grow because it's providing an alternative at least in the eyes of these people who are hungry for land and are suffering from the poverty. And unless we understand that and support these changes democratically then we're going to be faced with more revolutionary situation. And I think we are in the Philippines today. I started the book because I thought it was gonna become is another Central America. It was derailed I think by Marcus's departure. But I think we're right back there today. And I think you're going to see an increase in the Philippines in American CIA activity and American advisers. And yet I don't think anybody has thought about where eventually the policy is going to go or where the United States role will eventually end up. Thank you very much. I'd be happy to answer questions. I'll repeat the question. Is the United States government still paying the personal protection expenses of the Marquis's. And if not when did they stop. I don't know. They still are. And I don't know. I think they're not. But I and I think they've stopped. However let me say I think the Markus's have a moral claim for a lot from the United States because Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos didn't change Ferdinand Imelda Marcos with the same people in 1965 when LBJ secretly gave them thirty nine million dollars. They didn't talk about which relates to the Vietnam War. The same people they were in 1972 when they declared martial law. And Imelda Marcos came to Washington for Nixon's inauguration. They're the same people they were in 1978 when Vice President Bush. I mean the Mondale toasted them and Amelda had a meeting with Jimmy Carter. They're the same people they were in 1981 when the Reagan in 82 when the Reagan administration wined and dined. And Marcos's. Oh I don't think they're paying personal expenses. Well they should charge forty thousand dollars in Guam. I don't know if she's they're paying their personal expenses. I don't think they're paying this. And they've got enough money salted away. And a lot of places. I don't think we're paying for that. Well I don't think they should be paying their personal expenses but they probably have a right to be in a way. But they don't want to be there. Yes sir. I didn't say anything about the bases in the Philippines in the book. I have a chapter on the bases. There's one chapter I was really reluctant to write because I was worried about getting bogged down in arcane military talk about not understanding it first of all and then trying to explain in lay terms about sea lanes and you know depth of ports and like the runways and sailing days to various troubled spots and where the jets could be refuel. It's very complex. However after I wrote it after writing it it gave to somebody really read the manuscript and draft and she thought it was one of the most exciting chapters. So hopefully I've made a readable. I think there's a couple of things that the bases are important just like the communist threat is real in the Philippines. It's not hyped at this point. And we'll come back to that. The bases are important. There are two largest bases outside the continental United States. Largest naval base largest airforce base. What we need I believe in this country is a debate about those bases and whether or not they can be moved. The policy the bases have been the tail wagging the policy dog. The policy by conservatives and Democrats has started from the premise we're going gonna keep the bases and then how are we going to work a policy around keeping those bases. And I think a debate needs to be had over whether or not we keep the bases. I can see when I was doing research for this book and talking to liberals in Congress was at least to them and they'd say well we've got to keep the bases don't we. So what are we gonna do. I mean it's it's really the starting point. I don't know whether I'm not coming to a conclusion on whether we should we can keep bases. We have to keep more. We can movement where our security interests would be if the bases are moved to Guam or the or the naval bases move part to Singapore and parts of Australia. I'll tell you one reason they were in the Philippines under Marcos. It's much easier to deal with a dictator. I mean that's another reason quite frankly we deal with dictators although we'll never admit it. They're easier to deal with. Democracies are messy and they're unwieldy. Only when we know when we dealt with Marcos we wanted the bases agreement. All we had to do was convince one guy. That just meant coming up with the right amount of money over the table or under the table. No. If there had been a democracy move we'd talk about moving the bases to Australia for example where the Australians may decide that they're not real happy about the bases there. They're not real happy. They'll vote out the people who allowed the bases to come in and the students might take to the streets to demonstrate couldn't happen in the Philippines. I even found some quotes in some heavily classified papers in which I have in the book about some American officials actually saying we find it easier to deal with Marcos because he's a dictator. This was during base negotiations and they said they're making a lot fewer demands fewer restrictions on what we can do on those bases than the Japanese are. It's really a dollar thing. Now if you read even the public documents what it really comes down to as a matter of dollars and cents. We don't want to move those bases because it'll cost us some like a billion dollars. Well it will cost us. And I underscore us and it's a us. But what about the Filipinos. You know they may think well all right it's going cost you a billion dollars to move the bases. Well how about giving us a little bit more money for having the bases here. We are grossly under a exploitation. Has to be the word. We're paying the Filipino workers something like one seven. And this is adjusted first cost of living one seventh of what a Japanese worker would get. One fifth of what a worker in Guam. One eighth of what a Taiwanese worker would get. It's a very good deal for us to have the bases there. Can they be moved. Let me read you from what one person said. Immediate complete resolute resolute and wordless withdrawal 1977. Who said that George Canada. George Canada is not exactly somebody who's been accused of being soft on communism or underestimating the threat of the Soviet Union. He said we can withdraw. I also have a cable in the book which an American ambassador in the region wrote brilliant cable long cable. Why the bases could be moved and in fact in his view shouldn't be moved. So yes. The bases are important but we need a full debate on just how important they are and what we ought to pay if we're gonna keep them there. There are many contingency plans for moving them. Yes. Baby. And how much of that is due to her background. The question as I said is going to be a revolution. How much of the problems that Aquino is facing is due to. The army as well as their own background. I mean you really answered the question with your question I think. I think Akino. Is facing some very serious she's really back against the wall at the moment or she better be against the wall. She needs to protect her back and she looks to her right. And she sees in relay her nassan and that crowd coming and she looks to her left and she sees the communist. Now that doesn't mean you know it sounds a lot like dewater. And in many ways it is. That doesn't mean they're in the political center in their views. I mean that there's a group out to the right of them. Then once you read him and his group to the left then the wants to get rid of him. She certainly circumscribed. But I also think that I remember when I was talking to somebody in the Philippines and in fact I subsequently wrote an op ed piece for The New York Times on the subject on this issue. On this point I was interviewing somebody in 1985 December 1985 right after the snap election had been called. And it was Aquino and Marcos were the candidates. And this was a Philippine journalist pretty astute observer. And he said listen don't think everything's going to change just because Aquino. If Aquino gets elected because she'd have to go against her friends her family and her class to really bring about the changes that are needed in this country. And she is from a very wealthy landed family and she has not taken a strong stand on land reform. For example even the World Bank has felt that her land reform program for 18 months Corazon Aquino had absolute power. I didn't mean she should exercise a dictatorial. And she didn't. But she certainly had enough power to implement a land reform. And that's probably something she should have done. And the land reform she should she has proposed is very moderate and probably is not is not sufficient enough to blunt the communist drive back here in the words. Question is will Korea give some simply is will Korea keno survive until the end of her term in 1990. Did I care to gaze into a crystal ball. Iran on a limb. I get out on a lot of limbs. I think she's going to survive. Now you watch I'll wake up tomorrow morning and there'll be a coup. I think she's gonna survive. The question is is democracy in the Philippines going to survive that. I think that's much shakier. And in what form is she going to survive. Nineteen ninety two is a long way and I don't I don't know. She's certainly not gonna be overthrown by the Communists by nineteen ninety two. I mean the communists are growing stronger all the time of course because you've got you've got the military and the government you know shoot out at high noon in the streets in Manila and the communists are up in the hills just loving it. It's fantastic. I think she'll make it. But you know it's a long way and it's going to be very difficult. And she's going to need a lot of backing from the United States. A lot of support from the United States. And then let me just say it is digress for a second or go off on and not digress. Grew up on another issue. I mean much of what I've said tonight I suppose could be interpreted as being anti interventionist. And I suspect that many of you certainly many islands least according to the polls are opposed to U.S. intervention in Central America. Where do you draw the line. What of Corazon Aquino. Ask for help from the United States. She's democratically elected. She is democratically elected. What if she asks for help. You know to make it difficult to take the progression. What if she asks for help to defeat the communists which conjures up immediately images of another Vietnam. Probably would say what if she asks for help to defeat Honasan and then relay those people. What if she asked for U.S. troops to come in. I don't think she's going to. But what if she did say listen we've got to rebuild this army until we do I need you to protect the country. So the questions aren't easy ones. And I don't I don't profess to have the answers. Fortson certainly questions that the candidates ought to be forced to address. Still rather new vigilante groups that she had given birth to an interest in healthy amount of money. Here it is. First question was what's the U.S. role visa be the vigilante groups. Are these vigilante groups that have been set up in mostly and I think in Mindanao they're based there. The vigilante groups in there not far removed from what in Central America we would call death squads. Frankly Corazon Aquino is not criticize them. I don't know she's act. I think she's even endorsed them. There's some question about American involvement American support for them. I've seen the reports that Ramsey Clark and a former CIA officer went over there and looked into it. I think they concluded there was American support for these groups. There was at some level I don't I don't know at what level. I think they're pretty dangerous. And I don't think that's the way that she should be. I mean the army ought to be out fighting the Web front fighting the communists instead of trying to overthrow the Aquino government the Philippine army. And how much. The question was how much are we providing the Philippines right now and how much of it is military. I don't I don't have the figures. Two hundred million and seventy five million went just recently. I don't I don't remember. You know there's always this debate in Congress over how much it's gonna be. And quite frankly what's I close the book. I didn't follow as closely to know exactly what the numbers were but it's pretty significant. I think I saw a chart the other day. Philippines was about seven or eight nine. It's within the top 10 countries in terms of of aid you know. Let me let me let me touch on another subject on the broader macro side of foreign policy. You know there may not be anything we can do to keep Corazon Aquino in power. I'm often Ascoli underlying some of your questions. What should the United States do. Well we may have to realize that we cannot affect the domestic content if you will of other countries. And it may not be our job to do it. Now there's a certain arrogance some omniscience if you will in the United States policy that we know what is best for these countries. And I think that underlies a lot of our foreign policy. We know who should be president or or there. There's nobody else to be president. Therefore we should support the Marko's. We heard that argument like well we don't know who else there is. So we had to support Marcos. Just maybe there's nothing the United States should or even can do could do in the Philippines is a Philippine problem. And they're going to have to work it out. And it may be shaky and maybe some difficult times but should we get involved. I don't know. I'd appear to have thought about. He's basically motivated by a fear of appearing soft on crime whereas there doesn't appear to be one. What is the relationship between that kind of fear and secondly that the fear of communism itself would a crime ideological motive. Well to religion. Religious. I really find it hard to explain. Explain our policy in Central America any other way. I mean I come to that conclusion more by a process of elimination then then starting from there. I mean you can see part of our policy in the Philippines is clearly security and the bases. And there's even some economic factors in the Philippines. In fact the Kenyan statement makes that clear. Plus in the book I've you know this book is based in large part as was the earlier one on government documents. I think I got some like four or five thousand classified U.S. government documents for this book under the Freedom of Information Act. But ten fifteen thousand pages and filed was full of people is asking well would you find the most interesting the most exciting. I don't remember. But I can remember times getting various documents and reading them and letting out a few shots of glee or something and calling up somebody and reading them. And one in particular was I got one in which the American the president of the American Chamber of Commerce was being described by the U.S. Embassy. The president of the American Chamber of Commerce was described as a known apologist for the martial law regime. And he said yes we know where the Chamber of Commerce said yes we know we're in the pockets of of Marcos or the. But were there voluntarily because he's good for business i.e. wages are low no strikes. Peasants work for 50 cents a day laborers for a dollar a day et cetera. So I mean there are those factors but I think it is central. I really do think it comes down to a religion national security. A friend of mine a foreigner who lives here has lived here many years when when Reagan made one of his speeches about the threat that the sand. I think this is his 83 speech was 83 the threat of Nicaragua the threat to the United States. And she said she asked me she said how many. What's the population. She didn't know exactly. I said three million people three million people in an impoverished country. How can they be a threat to the United States. I mean it's not a security issue. It really isn't. I think it's religion. No no no Marxist Leninists in this hemisphere. When you walk out. That's wrong. And then on the other hand we're selling our off in China. On the other hand for about an hour on. Well the question is how do you explain our policy in Central America to stop communism while we're selling arms to China and we're gonna have a summit with with with Gorbachev. That's it. That's an example I often use as well. If Reagan can go to China and say we're gonna walk hand-in-hand with the Chinese his words hand in hand. Why do we have to go to war with the Sandinistas. Let me answer that. But making it difficult difficult for myself as well in a couple of ways. The complexities. Converse of that is if I. Which I have. And if we are those who. Or I do criticize Mondale and Bush and the Reagan and the various administrations for consorting with Marcos. And meeting with Marcos then shouldn't I be equally critical. And those of you who share that view with me have been critical of our support for Marcos equally critical of meeting with Gorbachev or the leaders of China. Mean figure out that conundrum. I think there there may be some differences. Mean part of it. Maybe we have to have a realistic assessment of where we can make a difference and make a change. I don't see where we benefited from Mondale meeting with Marcos. It further reinforced him in power. Similarly if we can make a difference. Then maybe we should we. Let's assume for the moment assume for the moment that Nicaragua is is communist and I don't think that's a totally valid because I think it's a hybrid. It's not Ledley. Let's make it very clear. It's not a democracy. Whatever the Sandinistas are they're not democratic. As we know democracy or democracy ought to be practice. Shouldn't shouldn't. Should we or shouldn't we make some effort to change that. So whereas yes we sell arms to China. Does that mean that if we can make a difference in Nicaragua and move them towards democracy we should still go ahead. We should try to do that even though at the same time it might even though it might be somewhat inconsistent. Do we allow I guess what I'm saying is should we allow communism to take hold wherever wherever it tries to. And that raises a question which I addressed earlier. I mean what is our role in the world. Are we going to be the world's ideological policeman. Is that a role we want to play. Maybe we do. Certainly if Corazon Corazon Aquino asked for help we'd probably give it to her. As Michael Manley next next Friday if he comes under a threat not from the left but from the right in his country to prop up his democracy assuming he's reelected I think he will be. Would we go to his aid. I mean it all comes down to what role we're gonna play in the world. Don't worry. More or less breaking whether or not it's still the same. Right. They take another side. Well I mean do we always. I'm not sure. We always have a policy of supporting the underdog people. Well but people listen. It's very clear that people don't make policy in the United States. I mean all you do is look at the blog. I mean here you were back there. We were talking about this dinner. You and I lived through a thing called the Vietnam War. I mean the people may have had a difference in that one eventually but I think people have had an impact on on Central American policy. But the people have been there hasn't been one poll in the last five years or six years now in Central America. And when one poll that showed it's always been at least 66 percent two thirds the people have always been opposed to the contra policy as well as the military aid to El Salvador for six years. So people don't make the policy. I don't. I don't. We didn't. We. Point is we've got to learn. We've got to learn how to address these situations. And it is the disparities between the rich and the poor that they really give rise to communism doesn't take root. And where does where is communism taken root in democracy. Communism can't survive in a democracy least not communism in the sense that it is. We see it in Central America and elsewhere. I mean there are European communist parties but they play by democratic rules. The communist parties in Peru. I spent six weeks in Peru this summer working on an article for The New Yorker magazine. What a situation that is. But there the communist parties are perfectly legal. They have to make it clear. But I think the best way to defeat communists is what I've seen in Peru. The last time I was there it was in 1980. And for the election in 1980 there was something like 15 communist parties. Now seven is a Albanian Communist Party of Moscow Communist Party the Chinese Communist Party of Cambodia and seven Communist Party. He spent all the time fighting amongst themselves. Even now they finally formed the United Left. Well they're more left than they are united. They still spend more time fighting amongst themselves than they do against the government. I mean that's the way to defeat communism legalized finish and legalize it. Really if I were Corazon Aquino I'd legalize the Communist Party tomorrow and work to legalize the Communist Party for two reasons. One they can't do that. They don't do well. And two then you've got a moral one up in you know then those people who don't lay down the arms and continue as they are faced in in in Peru for example Peru is faced with a very serious revolution thing called The Shining Path. And there are Luminoso which is even with all that there is more I don't want to rule. There's more political space in Peru than. Probably any other Third World country I've ever been in political space on the left and on the right. And I would stand quick any good. I went up to the airport counter and it's mayhem. It always is you know organized. I shoved up the side of me. I mean I'd shove my way up there to him. And some guy came in on the side and I waited on red waves well-dressed. He had a beard. I looked at the woman with and looked and said you know why did you wait on him. She says he's important. And then after he left they said Who is he. She said he's a communist. Well at first I thought she was putting me on you know spoofing me because she was America's fear of communists. And then my reaction was my God you know I mean I really thought jeez any other country Guatemala El Salvador Nicaragua and not Nicaragua Honduras or or the Philippines you know the guy would have been off before to got out of the airport. I found out who he was. In fact he was a communist. He was an elected deputy in the in the parliament in Peru. So you got all that political space. Yet in spite of it in spite of it you've got this this revolution down there this Maoist revolution. Panio as a long digression. Sorry. Well that's the real question of course. In El Salvador is there any political space on the left have after everybody. Everybody. It's generally described as a success the policy in El Salvador. I'll bet you find I can maybe win. Maybe one of the political candidates would criticize maybe two would criticize the policy in El Salvador. And along the way several government possibly voted against the aid. But for the most part most people define what's happened in El Salvador as a success. I don't know is there any political space after after six years of what we've poured into El Salvador and everything else. Can the left come back and participate in the elections. Not if the assassination of this guy last week couple of weeks ago or the Human Rights Commission doesn't appear to be much political space. Yeah. You know it does it it there is there another part of the equation which is still there. I said earlier at the very beginning poverty and repression are probably what fuels revolutions not the Soviet Union or China or Cuba or any place else. And he's still got extreme poverty in Peru. And in fact without that that poverty without the space on the left I think Sendero would be a lot stronger. No there's no question. In Peru there's also a great deal of racism against the Indians. And the Indians are the ones who are mostly involved in the revolution. But it's being fought up in the mountains and that some of the most impoverished areas I've I've ever seen. Those people are living like they did two centuries ago not 20 years ago or even two hundred years ago. They're still living without roads. All right. I guess two more questions here in here. As you say quite often. Know they do it. Is there room is the room for change. What's at the end of the pipe. Well first why didn't he. Carter couldn't do it. He wouldn't he didn't do it. And if he didn't do it. You know you have to ask will a Democratic administration do it. I think it raises the questions most acutely because Carter did have a human rights policy. I'm certainly not going to get into endorsing candidates. What does somebody like me do. Remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36564/file/105633#t=0.0,2822.376"}]}]}]}