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I welcome you all to this year's institute. It's on the global environment and called transforming the ecological crisis. Before I get started, I wanna let everybody know about what tomorrow's activities are gonna be. Tomorrow at noon there'll be a panel on global warming in the pioneer room. And tomorrow evening at eight o'clock right here in the Sunroom, Ann and Eric will speak on preserving biodiversity. And now I wanna take this opportunity to recognize the people other than myself that have worked hard to put this week together. My co-chair Victoria Slovinsky. If you would all stand up, Victoria. And the rest of the coordinating student committee, everybody who's here would you please stand up and be recognized? All these people worked really hard to put this week together. And also I'd like to recognize the faculty chair of the Lectures Committee, Dr. Gary Tartikoff. Could you please stand? At this time, I wanna introduce President Gordon Eaton who will say a few words before I introduce our keynote speaker. So at this time, Dr. Gordon?\r\n\r\n- Thank you Phil, and good evening ladies and gentlemen. It's a real pleasure to see such a large crowd at this event this evening. It's an honor and a pleasure for me to assist with the opening of this Institute of World Affairs. Some of you may be unaware of the fact that tonight marks the 25th anniversary of this institution. So it's been an enduring institution on the campus. The organization that's putting this on this evening has had a long and I think a proud tradition of bringing scholars, activists, and leading authorities to the campus to discuss issues of international concern and interest. And it has provided this university community with a unique opportunity to hear and also to interact informally with these knowledgeable people who come to join us such as tonight's keynote speaker. Tonight the tradition continues its success with the introduction on the topic chosen for this year's discussion. And as you know, it varies from year to year. This year, it's the transformation of the ecological crisis that's still upsetting. The institute's program will be the first of several environmental conferences held across the state over the next several months across the State of Iowa. Later this month, this university, Iowa State and the University of Iowa and Iowa City are co-hosting a conference on global warming and its likely impact upon this state and particularly upon its agricultural enterprise. We're also continuing to work, we in this case being both of these universities with Iowa's governor, Terry Branstad, who has chosen global warming and waste management as two of his special initiatives on which to focus during this year in which he is chairman as most of you know the National Governor's Association. I think I'd also like to note for all of you that Iowa State University has been very supportive of efforts on this campus in investigating this important topic. A study committee on global change has been established that will assist the university in planning the direction for our efforts and for our instruction and explore ways in which we can better inform the citizens of our state about such global impacts. And some of that will begin to come forth I think tomorrow noon, according to what Phil has just described for us. Well the problems caused by global warming and the growing demand for limited natural resources appear I think to most of us at times to be overwhelming, I believe that with some effort we can begin to get our arms around them as problems. So I encourage you to take this opportunity to examine with tonight's speaker, Dr Barry Commoner and the other institute speakers who will be with us later this week, what we both as individuals and as members of the global community can do to find workable solutions for the preservation of our common destiny. Once again, welcome to this program. And let me now turn the podium back over to Phil. Phil?\r\n\r\n- This week gives me great personal pleasure to be able to bring so many experts on various environmental topics to campus. And I think I speak for all the members of the committee and probably a lot of other students on campus that we see these problems that are facing us, something we'll have to be dealing with throughout our lives. And we have to find solutions right away and they're very complex problems. But our speakers this week will really help us figure out ways to solve those problems. Our speaker tonight, Dr. Barry Commoner has been an environmental activist since the 1950s, long before Earth Day made it popular to be an environmentalist. He's been called the ecology's Paul Revere, and he's credited with advancing and transforming environmental thought. He's a master popularizer of the scientific basis for environmental problems and also the socio-political aspects of those problems. Dr. Commoner received the PhD from Harvard in 1941 and he was a member of the faculty at Washington University in St. Louis for about 30 years before in the early 1980s, he went to Queens College at the City University of New York and he directs the Center for Study of Biology of Natural Systems or the Center for the Biology of Natural Systems. He was the citizens party's candidate for president in 1980. And he was Jesse Jackson's environmental advisor in both of his presidential campaigns. In April, 1990, just in time for Earth Day, he'll have a new book coming out called \"Making Peace with the Planet.\" So please join me now in giving a much deserved warm welcome to Dr. Berry Commoner.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. I'm glad to be here to celebrate the 25th anniversary of this really remarkable institution. It's very remarkable I think that you chose as the title for this year's symposium exactly what we have to do, which is to transform what we're doing about the environment. So I practically don't have to say anything because you've got the answer there. We have to transform it. So this is a very good opportunity for me to share with you some thoughts that arise out of the experience with our attempt to deal with this crisis. The attempt reached its peak as you know in 1970 when clearly this country made a decision which has been only intensified, every poll shows this over and over again, we want to clean up the environment. I don't think there's any question about it. What I think is beginning to get to people is after 20 years, we should have some visible results. And one of the important things that we have to ask ourselves is what has been accomplished? An enormous effort has been made. Over the last five years, the average expenditures on environmental controls has been $80 billion each year. It's a lot of money. We've created whole new institutions, new laws. In other words, there's been a very concerted and intense national effort to do something about it. And we have to ask ourselves, particularly those of us who've been trying hard for a long time an embarrassing question, what good has it done? We really have to ask that. And there are three things that we have to think about. One is obviously the whole question of the deterioration of our own environment, the toxic pollution in the ground water, air pollution, smog and so on. Another thing that's become clear now is that there is a global problem, tWo global problems, the global warming problem, and the whole question of the breakdown of ozone in the stratosphere which intensifies our exposure to ultraviolet light. And there's a third aspect that we have to keep in mind as well because it's already clear that there's some problem about the relationship between the environment and economic development, economic growth. We hear people saying, \"Well, one of the solutions is \"to stop growing economically, stuck development.\" And you need to remember that the world is divided into two spheres, north and south. In the north, you have most of the industry, wealth. In the south you have most of the people. And in the the third world, in the south, they're trying to develop. And so the development issue and its relationship to environmental problems brings to in very sharp focus the whole desperate, unsolved problem of the peoples of the third world. So these three things are intimately connected. And we have to have sort of a period of self confession here. We've gotta ask ourselves, what have we been trying to do? What has it accomplished? How close are we in even thinking about the right solutions to all of these problems? And that's really what I wanna talk about tonight. Now in the United States, it's clear that we've had one huge success. And that is that we know a lot more about the environment than we did before. I well remember, well, nearly 30 years ago when we were at Washington University and I became interested in the question of nitrate pollution. And looked for data. Well there were a few scattered analyses across the Midwest where I suspected and turned out to be true, there's a very intense problem. And there were no background data. It was very difficult to know what the original levels of nitrate, which as you know is a serious pollutant in your groundwater. It causes the blue baby disease by interfering with oxygen transport. In the diet it can create carcinogens in the intestinal track. Well, there was no background data. One thing that's happened, we know a lot more now. There are good sets of data. Some not so good, but some of them are really quite good. And so we can take a look for example at the situation in air pollution, where especially since 1975, EPA has put out very solid numbers about how much air pollutants of each air pollutant has been emitted into our atmosphere. In other words, we know how much has gotten into the environment. Standard air pollutants, dust, carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, sulfur dioxide and so on. And if you look at the numbers, you can find out what improvement has taken place let's say since 1975, when the data became pretty good. Let me say right away that the laws under which we've been operating, the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act, call for a 90% improvement. For example the Clean Air Act expected an 90% improvement in seven years after it was enacted or 1977. With that as background, let me give you some numbers. If you take the standard air pollutants with one exception and I'll get to, and average the improvement over 1975 to '87, which is the latest data, you discover that the average improvement is 18%. And in fact, one of those pollutants, nitrogen oxides which is what triggers the smog reaction and is now an appreciable component of acid rain, nitrogen oxide has gone up 2% since 1975. Now you might say, well, it's the best we can do. It's a tough job. 18% in that period of time is okay. But you notice then two problems. One is that the improvement stopped in 1982. In other words, the figures I've given you, you think it's Mr. Reagan's fault? Maybe. But we'll get to that. I'm sorry. 1982 really stopped, flat since then. In other words, very interesting, the improvement has reached the limit. The 18% figure I've given you has been held basically since 1982, five years. So there's some problem here. In other words, it seems to be a limit to our efforts to improve things. The other thing which is even more embarrassing is that one of the pollutants, lead has gone down 94%. Now that's embarrassing because it tells you it can be done. It tells you that the fact that we haven't succeeded with the other pollutants, tells us that there's something wrong there because we have an example of doing it right. Now if you look at the other pollutants, we have fairly good data on water pollution. The US Geological Survey for well more than 30 years has been sampling 400 sites in the rivers across the country, sampling the standard water pollutants, fecal bacteria, sewage, the oxygen level, which is an indicator of organic pollution, nitrate, which is bad for water supplies, phosphate that causes algal overgrowth and so on. And their data are so good that they've been able to get very good statistical answers to the following questions. At this site, has the pollutant levels improved significantly, statistically? Has it gone worse or has it remained the same? What you discover is that something over 85% of the sites, at those sites, there's been either no improvement or deterioration. If our aim was to improve, well we've managed to get improvement at 15 sites, that's all. 15% of the sites. So again, there's an evidence of not having really succeeded. But again you see a success. Phosphate, which causes alcohol overgrowths and therefore pollution, has gone down 70, 80% at certain places, the Detroit River for example. So again, there's a signal that somehow we managed to do the right thing in some instances. And this is generally the picture that you get. Toxic chemicals have generally simply become worse. And again, there are just a few instances of improvement. And I'll mention. I can do it with one hand the actual real improvements of let's say 70 to 80, 90% improvement. They are lead in the air which I mentioned, DDT, which has gone down 80% or so in fish and wildlife and birds. And in fact, there's been a reversal of the biological effect. Do you remember the problem with DDT was that birds, it interferes with the sex hormone metabolism in birds, the eggshells become thin, the birds sit on the eggs and crush them. The result is that the brown pelicans on the East Coast began to disappear, the osprey, the fish hawk in Long Island for example disappeared. They're back now. I've seen the osprey at the eastern end of Long Island. There are more fledglings surviving among the brown Pelican population. There's less DDT in mother's milk and in our body fat. And the same is true of polychlorobiphenyls, down about 80 or so percent in fish, wildlife, and in people's bodies. Another example is mercury in great lakes fish. In the '70s, it was discovered that you couldn't eat the fish around Lake Erie for example, or Lake Michigan. And it was discovered where it came from and something was done about it which I'll get to in a minute. But anyway, that's an improvement. Another improvement is strontium-90. When my kids grew up in St. Louis, we took great pains to try to keep their strontium-90 in their diet down because they were significant levels. Well, we now find that the level of strontium-90 in our diet is down about 20 fold since the mid 1960s. So those are a handful of improvements. But if you look at all the rest of the pollutants, the various chemicals, the air pollutants, the water pollutants, you find 10 to 20% improvement. And in some cases, no improvement. And in some cases as nitrogen oxide in the air, it's gotten worse. And you look at that if you were an academic and what you see is a PhD thesis, right off the bat. What you've got is a bimodal distribution. Here you've got a bulk of the pollutants, all bunched around a 10 to 20% improvement, and here's a bunch that are out around 80 to 90%. And the obvious, I mean it's a perfect setup for getting a degree. That's a hint to somebody. I'm gonna give you the whole answer so you'll have to credit. Immediately you ask the question, well, what happened where it failed and what happened where it worked? And you can come up with a thesis, a very clear cut thesis which you can consider one of the laws of ecology. The conclusion you come to by examining this situation is very simple. And the law is this, if you don't put anything into the environment, it's not there. And that is the exact explanation for the data that I've just given you. Why is there so much less lead in the environment? We've stopped putting lead into the environment by taking lead out of gasoline. The lead in the gasoline went right through the engine, out the exhaust pipe and the car was the disseminator of lead into the environment. Well as you know, nearly all the lead is now been taken out of the environment. And as we did that, for some strange reason, there was less in the environment. And in fact, there is less in the blood of children in the inner city where they were heavily exposed. That's gone down about 40, or 50%, a real improvement. What explains DDT? We abandoned. We stopped using DDT. Now when DDT was used, it was disseminated into the environment. That's what you do with the insecticide. The airplanes flew over the cotton fields and spread DDT into the environment. It's a strange thing. When you stop doing that, it's not the environment. PCB has the distinction of being the only chemical ever banned by congressional law. The Toxic Substances Control Act specifically banned polychlorobiphenyls. They could no longer be used. And sure enough down it goes. Strontium-90, we and the Russians had the simple wisdom of stopping the explosion of nuclear bombs in the atmosphere, which is what produced strontium-90. Mercury is an interesting example because it was discovered where it came from very quickly. It was used in plants, chemical plants on the shores of the lakes that produced chlorine. And the mercury was used as a way of conducting the electricity, it's an electrolytic process. So the Canadian and US governments turned around to the plants and said, \"You're gonna have to stop doing this \"or we'll close you down.\" So they didn't stop making chlorine, they simply changed the method of producing chlorine by removing mercury and using a semi-permeable membrane instead. So the picture you get is that the only thing that's really succeeded has been to prevent the production of the pollutant. Now what failed where it was any effort was made, was what we call controls. A typical example is the catalytic converter that's on the tailpipe of your car. The cars produce carbon monoxide and waste gasoline. This converter passes the gases through a catalyst and breaks down the carbon monoxide, oxidizes it and the hydrocarbons as well. In other words, the car wasn't changed, the engine that produces this stuff wasn't changed, you simply tacked on a control device to try to overcome the effect. Same way we would put scrubbers on power plants. Or for that matter, when you built an incinerator here in Ames, what you were doing was building a control device because trash is a pollutant and you want to do something with it to prevent, or to change it. So you burn it. We'll get back to what are some of the problems that you run into with that. But what I'm saying is what has failed has been the strategy of control. Now the strategy of control has dominated our entire environmental regulatory program. The laws under which we operate, the operational laws, the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act for example and the Toxic Chemical Act, these things go into effect only after a pollutant is found in the environment. You find the pollutant, then EPA gets to work, figure out how much there is, how serious is it, you do a lot of experiments with rats, you have litigation, you worry about standards. And all of this begins only when the pollutant is found out in the environment. What I've just told you is that it's then too late. It's too late. In effect, environmental pollution is an incurable disease. It can only be prevented, it can only be prevented. And what we've been trying to do is band-aids. We've been trying to wait until the symptoms appear, until the disease is on us, and then we try to tack things onto the sources and try to get rid of it. And that doesn't work. In other words, I'm telling you something very simple and fairly tragic, that the entire $80 billion a year expenditure, the whole EPA apparatus, the laws, the litigation, all of the agitation for getting EPA to do more has failed. In other words, our environmental effort is essentially a failure. The one good thing about it is that we've managed to by accident, a real accident, you know why we took lead out of gasoline? Lead is very toxic. It's been known since 1923. And it was a stupid idea to put it into gasoline. The reason why it was taken out was not to protect children, some of whom have had lead levels that result in mental retardation. The reason was that it interfered with the catalyst in the carbon monoxide, a catalytic converter which doesn't work anyway. That's why lead was taken out of the gasoline. So we have to face that the embarrassing answer to the embarrassing question. This massive thing has not worked. And the nice thing is that we know what does work, which is prevention. Now let me tell you a little bit about the background of this problem. You see, when I say prevention, what I mean is that the technology of production has to be prevented from producing a pollutant. Make it very simple. We raise cotton. And before 1970, the technology of cotton production included heavy sprays with DDT. In other words, that describes how you raise cotton. The way in which we've gotten DDT out of the environment is by changing the technology of producing cotton. We took DDT out of it. We put other pesticides into it. Or take the mercury situation. That was solved by changing the technology of producing chlorine. PCB has been used in electrical equipment, transformers. You're not allowed now to build a transformer that is protected, the dielectric fluid in it is PCB, that's out. In other words, the technology of producing the transformers has been changed. In other words, what prevention means is to choose a technology of agricultural production, a technology of transportation, a technology of power production that does not produce the pollutant. You might say, \"Wow, why did we do these silly things?\" Well one of the things you have to recognize is that most of our problems arose after World War II. I don't need to remind this audience, before world, well maybe I do, except the older people like me. Before World War II, nobody used anhydrous ammonia. There were no white tanks around. Very little chemical fertilizer was used before World War II. There were no herbicides. There were no synthetic pesticides. These all came after World War II. The whole petrochemical industry is a post-World War II creation. This new industry was created and it has built into it serious environmental effects. If you produce and disseminate DDT, if you create an industry that makes DDT and sells it to the farmers, makes herbicides and sells it to the farmers, that industry is anti-ecological. It's all there is to it. That industry was built up. It's a big, powerful, profitable industry. Take the question of smog. Before World War II there was no smog. I guarantee you. During the war I flitted about the country in the naval airplane. And I can tell you, I never saw any smog. Now you can't fly anywhere in the country. Over every urban area, you've got a brown pole of smog. And it's bad for people. How did it come about? Well, the source of smog is a decision made in the boardrooms of the auto companies in Detroit. Let me explain that. Right after World War II, suddenly all the new cars were big. This was a common decision that the auto makers did. They decided that we all wanted big cars. And so they built big cars. Now a big car is heavy. A heavy car needs a more powerful engine than a small car. And so immediately after World War II, engines were built that were more powerful than pre-war. How do you get more power? You raise the pressure in the cylinders, so-called compression ratio. And the compression ratio has gone up. It went up by 50% very quickly. Along with the horsepower. A powerful high compression engine. There's a law of physics that tells you when you raise the pressure in the system, it'll get hot. And so the engines run hot. The laws of chemistry tell you that if you mix molecules together and get them too hot, they'll react. And sure enough, the nitrogen and oxygen molecules which are in the air right here in the room, which I hope don't react here, in the engine react chemically to produce nitrogen oxides. The nitrogen oxide comes out the exhaust, it's hit by sunlight, it becomes extremely reactive, and that sets off the smog reaction. In other words, the reason why we have smog is somebody decided to build heavy cars with high compression engines. Had that decision not been made, put it to you very simply, I used to drive a Model A Ford in the '30s. It did not produce smog. And I guarantee you, if we were all driving Model A Fords today, there would be no smog in the country. In other words, the technology of car production was changed to make it anti-ecological. In the same way we produced after World War II nuclear power plants. And they have very serious consequences. So what we have done is to generate a modern, very economically successful system of agriculture using petrochemicals, a system of transportation. We have shifted from railroads to trucks very heavily. I passed what I thought was a railroad station in Ames today. And I understand that's an adjunct to City Hall now. And I was told you no longer have passenger trains in Ames. Well, that was an anti-ecological decision. Why? Because it takes much more fuel to carry passengers and freight by cars and trucks than it does by rail. A truck uses four times as much fuel to carry a ton mile as a freight train. More fuel means more pollution. And that's another thing that happened in World War II. We didn't have plastic. Well, here is a plastic tray. That's plastic, this is plastic. I will remember drinking water before World War II out of glass. The remarkable thing here is that there's a wooden floor and not astro turf. You're sitting on plastic, right? Some of you, not many I hope are wearing plastic. We had clothes before World War II, we had floors, we had furniture. What has happened is then a new industry came along and displaced soap with detergents, glass with plastic, wood and paper with plastic. All of that industry is toxic. You see what I mean? Just recently the Congress enacted a law, well EPA did an inventory. And it turns out that we now emit 400 billion pounds a year of toxic, toxic chemicals into the environment. We say, well, what's 400 billion pounds? One interesting number is this. The industry produces for sale about 550 billion pounds. In other words, this is as much a producer of toxic chemicals as it is of chemicals for sale. And the reason is that a lot of what it sells is toxic. And when you make it, you produce toxic wastes which get into the environment. So here is an industry which is inherently, inherently toxic. And we have done that since World War II. This is our big accomplishment. And I can see the interesting, some of you may have read I guess my first book in this area, \"The Closing Circle\" in which I made the point that we had done this between 1950 and 1970, we'd built up this array of polluting industries. And I was very proud of that thesis. You will probably during the course of this symposium hear other explanations for the environmental crisis. Mine is that it originates in the technology of production. And that between 1950 and 1970, we introduced anti-ecological technologies of production. Well I have to tell you since the last couple of years, I've analyzed the reverse process, what we tried to do to improve things since 1970, and you come to exactly the same conclusion. The only thing that has worked has been to change the technology of production to prevent the production of a pollutant. And I'm now convinced you get the same explanation for the rise in pollution as for the failure to bring it down and you think you've got something. Well, that's the story. That's where we're at. And let me talk now about some of the consequences of this find. You see, once you concentrate on controls and accept the idea that there's going to be a pollutant in the environment, and what you wanna do is cut it back in some way. Once you do that, you get into a morass of bureaucratic and scientific, pseudo-scientific issues. Let me explain that. EPA finds a pollutant, they say, well, they do tests on animals and so on, find it's a carcinogen. They get some sense of what level of carcinogen kills rats. And they say, \"Well that's too high. \"We're gonna set a standard somewhat lower. \"We're gonna bring that level down.\" Okay. Well then they say, \"We wanna put controls on industry \"and so on that will bring the level down to that point.\" So a standard has to be set. Now how do you set a standard? A standard is simply, it's a pointer. You have to say, well, against what scale? How are we going to judge a standard? For example, you might say, \"Well, everybody dies. \"So death is no standard.\" Well, then you say, \"Wow, what's the risk of dying?\" And then someone will point out that we accept the risk of dying in a motorcycle race Which is pretty high, much higher than anything that anybody in EPA talks about. And the chemical industry has said, \"Look, the only thing \"we forbid is suicide and going over Niagara Falls \"in a barrel, \"which has nearly 100% fatality. \"That's all that we prevent. \"We're not preventing anything else. \"Why pick on us when we cause let's say a risk of 10 cases \"of cancer in a million people?\" So there's a whole question of well, how do you judge what the standard ought to be? And after various people pointed out that well, this is an involuntary risk. Not like going over Niagara Falls in a barrel. So really we wanna deal with it ethically a little differently. Then the new thing came up that after all, you have to balance the risk against the benefit. And after all, you're doing something that's useful. And then it became difficult to make a balance because how do you measure the benefit? So then they introduced the idea well, what would it take to reduce, how much money will it take to reduce the level of risk down to where we want it? And that began to be the EPA approach. Well when you do that, you run into a very interesting situation. You see the risk you measure and the effect on people, ultimately death. So you have on one side of the equation, death, certain risk of death. On the other side of the equation, you have a certain number of dollars. In other words, it'll take x number of dollars to prevent x number of deaths from this pollutant. And how do you judge that? It gets to be a very interesting thing. Well, let me show you some of the consequences of raising this kind of an issue. And this has been the basis, there are a whole academic programs now of risk. Do you have one here? Risk benefit analysis? I hope not. The University of Chicago has a whole economics department, most of which is devoted to figuring out sensible ways of balancing this equation because in order to balance it as you know from arithmetic or algebra, you have to have the same dimensions on both sides. You either have to have death on both sides or dollars on both sides. And the easiest thing to do is to convert the deaths into dollars. How do you do that? Well, you've gotta balance the thing. One way, and this has been worked out, there are whole academic papers on it is to figure out how much a person earns in their lifetime. That's reasonable. That's what you're worth. Make so much money, then you die and that's it. Well, it then turns out that the value of a human life is lower if you're a woman than a man because women earn less, and lower if you're a black than a white. And it turns out then that poor people, poor people's lives are worth less than rich people's lives. So what you do now is, now you've got the pollution balance here. What it says very simply is it's okay to pollute poor people more than rich people and you laugh. That's exactly what we do. You realize that most of the toxic dumps in this country are right next to black and Hispanic communities. Where do you think they're gonna put a trash burning incinerator? On Park Avenue? In fact, some environmentalist in San Diego did a very clever thing. They ran a referendum on a proposed incinerator. And the referendum called for specifying the location of the incinerator. And it passed. And the specification was, it could go in the San Diego Zoo which is famous, it could go into a historic area. I don't know what it is, it's just famous. Or next to the richest neighborhood in San Diego. Nobody is gonna put it there. So that's one thing that comes out of this. And you see that's an ethical conclusion, which I don't know that anybody ever asked the people in this country is it okay to pollute poor people more than rich people? We were never asked. But I guarantee you this is what the risk benefit analysis does. There are some strange consequences. I have to read this because you won't believe me if I don't read it. That was a pesticide, DBCP, which about 10 years ago was discovered to cost sterility in the workers, the chemical workers who were producing it. So it was banned by the Head of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration under the Carter administration. It was banned. And it was used for peaches, a pesticide on peaches. And the Secretary of the National Peach Council wrote to the OSHA and said, \"We do believe in safety in the workplace, \"but there can be good as well as bad sides in a situation.\" And here's what he said, I'll quote it, \"While involuntary sterility caused \"by a manufactured chemical may be bad, \"it is not necessarily so. \"After all there are many people now paying \"to have themselves sterilized \"to ensure they will no longer be able to become parents. \"If possible sterility is the main problem, \"couldn't workers who were old enough \"that they no longer wanted to have children \"accept such positions voluntarily? \"Or could workers be advised of the situation. \"And some might volunteer for such work posts \"as an alternative to planned surgery \"for a vasectomy \"or tubal ligation, \"or as a means \"of getting around religious bans on birth control? Now the logic is impeccable. The morality is outrageous. And this is one of the consequences of trying to juggle these standards. There are many others. For example, when you set a standard, you accept pollution, a low level of pollution, but you accept it. And incidentally, this is done chemical by chemical. The standards are set for the biological consequences of exposure to that one chemical. I don't know anybody who's exposed to one chemical. We are exposed to dozens and dozens of toxic chemicals. There have been no attempts ever made to examine the biological effect of interaction between and among these chemicals. And if you ever set out to do it, just do the mathematics. There are 25 recognized serious chemicals. How many experiments would it take to figure out how these might interact? If someone wants to figure it out, it would cause it cost a trillion dollars to do the experiment if you could do it without going crazy. In other words, we are accepting that it's okay to pollute. When Time Magazine wrote an article about the terrible accident in Bhopal, where a couple of thousand people were killed, and many thousands injured, they said, \"We have to accept this \"as the risk that goes with the industrial revolution. \"There are risks that go with the benefits.\" Now, that is a consequence of the strategy of control. The strategy of prevention says we will bring the pollution down to zero, zero. And we're not gonna argue about what the effects of a little bit are, we going to go to zero. This is the whole public health approach. You realize, a classical example is smallpox. Smallpox is now wiped out. There has been no recorded case of smallpox for a number of years anywhere in the world. The virus is no longer in the human population. In fact, there's a big battle now, there are two vials of smallpox virus, one in Moscow and one in Washington. And there's a big debate on as to whether they should be destroyed and wipe out the smallpox virus. Now, are there any virus rights people here? These are real cases. Species diversity and all that, zingo, it's gone. Well how do you suppose they went about it? Do you think they said, \"There's a standard of carcinogenic exposure. \"We accept a lifetime risk of one in a million. \"That's excepted from a carcinogen in the environment.\" The smallest of the smallpox people said when they got to a risk of one in a million, \"Hey, let's quit. \"That's great.\" They didn't. 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Well, that's where we're at. Now, what about getting out of it? Well, let me say this. essentially, every ecologically sound technology that will prevent pollution exists. It is not a matter of research. Let me take one that you'll recognize as being important. Namely, the agriculture in Iowa. There is an ecologically sound way to raise corn and soybeans. It's known as organic farming. Very simple. That is, you don't put the chemicals into the environment. You just don't do it and they're not there and that's what organic farming is, isn't it? As I said before 1950, I was in the Midwest before 1950 and I saw farms. They were growing crops, there were animals. Now, right away you'll say, \"Wow, come on now. Can this be done? It's uneconomical.\" And so on. I hope he's here. A man named Thompson. Right around here in Ames. 15 years ago our center decided to look into this. We traipsed all over the Midwest to find 14 organic farms and Mr. Thompson was the first one we found and if any of you know him he runs a farm with all the tractors and equipment and he raises corn and soybeans and so on. We found 14 farms, 400 to 500 acre farms. Not hippy dippy farms, big farms. We matched them very carefully to the nearby conventional farms. We asked the Ag agent in the County to pick out the best manager and match them very closely. For five years, we followed those two groups of 14 farms in each group. I don't know why they did it, but they let us see their income tax returns. We saw all of their sales receipts and we worked out their yields, their expenditures, their income and I'll tell you what the net results were, over a five-year average, the organic farmers produced eight and a half percent less output in weight than the conventional farmers and both groups had the identical return in dollars per acre. Identical. The reason being that the organic farmers weren't buying all those chemicals and what's more, they were better off, because in the spring they didn't have to borrow the money from the banker to buy the chemicals. In other words, this works. It works perfectly well. Now, it doesn't work if you go to the banker for a loan and he says, \"Okay, which herbicides are you using? Because I want to make sure you're gonna get a good crop.\" It doesn't work and if you look at some of the federal regulations which literally require you to use some of the chemicals, but physically it works and I have to tell you well, my center is not an agricultural institution. The closest to farming I ever got was when I was a kid I raised tomatoes. I still do, in Brooklyn and when we began to do this work, I hate to tell you, well, you can ask some of the Ag people in Iowa what they said about us was unprintable but some of it was printed too. And lo and behold, two months ago the National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences funded by the U.S. department of Agriculture came out with a big report saying, \"It works.\" It works. For some curious reason they reported 14 farms also, but the experiment was not as good as ours. This was simply anecdotal information from 14 organic farms with no comparison to conventional ones and you know that's not good statistics. Anyway, it works. So, I have a very simple thing to say, if in the case of agriculture... Well, I forgot something. There are no controls you can apply it to agriculture. You understand to control, means you have to have a pipe with the pollutant coming out of it on a farm, the nitrate leaches into the groundwater and the river on every square inch. There's no way of putting controls. These are called non point sources and the EPA has shied away from doing anything about it, because the only way you can deal with agricultural pollution is by prevention. Control doesn't work. There is no way of controlling it, but prevention means telling the farmer how to grow his crops and no politician is ready to do that. So, what we've got is a very simple situation. There is a way of doing it right. It exists. It is economically sound. Yes. It'll take five years of low crops to shift from the chemical, to the organic. A minimum of five years, sometimes longer and farmers will need help, but it can be done. Now, let's take the car. Is there a way of having a car without producing smog? As I told you, my model 8 Ford worked. I drove it. It didn't produce smog. There is even a high compression engine that doesn't produce smog and it's called the stratified charge engine. The Ford Motor Company had one in 1974 and there was a big National Science Foundation study at about that time, which showed that if the engine were introduced, by 1988 there'd be no smog, but it wasn't introduced and you have to ask yourself, \"Why hasn't this been done?\" Well, to go back to the car situation, why did they shift to big cars in Detroit? And the answer is very simple. It's in a book about John DeLorean's experience before he grew his hair long and did other things. He was a rising executive at GM and a book has been written about his experience and he points out that the reason why they went to big cars was that they made a bigger profit on big cars than little cars. It took $300 more then to build a Cadillac than a Chevrolet, but they sold it for thousands of dollars more as Henry Ford second has put it, mini cars, make mini profits and so that's the reason why they shifted. In fact, that is the guiding motivation of every decision about productive technology. Why did Procter and Gamble shift from making soap to detergents? The answer is in the records that came out after they started making detergents. They made a higher profit on detergents. Some years ago John Swearingen, the president of Standard Oil of Indiana, just after he decided to switch into chemicals from oil, gave an interview and he said, \"Well, I'll explain it. We're not in the energy business.\" He said, Standard Oil of Indiana. \"We're in the business of making the best return we can on our stockholders investment.\" And they will produce oil or chemicals or plastic swizzle sticks depending on what maximizes their profit. I'm not speaking against the profit motive. Every enterprise has to make a profit in order to survive. What I'm saying is, a marginal difference in the profit will switch from one way of doing the manufacturing to another and that is the only guidance, that and maybe market share. In other words, in our economic system, the private owner of capital has the sole right to determine what to produce and how to produce it. Then, that's simply a fact of life. That's the way it is. What I've just told you though is, that unless the ecological consequences of that decision are taken into account we're in deep trouble and in fact, the only way we're going to solve the environmental crisis is to now begin to introduce the social concern for environmental quality into the decisions made in corporate boardrooms and on farms. Now, I know no other way of doing this. This country has decided over and over again. Every poll shows it, every politician knows it, that we are for environmental quality and incidentally the original law, the National Environmental Policy Act, says in its purpose, the purpose of our Environmental Program is to prevent and eliminate pollution. It says it. The laws that were then passed to put it into effect, the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act ignored that purpose and set up instead, the control strategy. So, what's happened is that we ignored this original idea, but now it's clear. Everyone wants to have things cleaned up. It's a social decision. Society has decided, the only way to do it is for society to intervene in the private decisions about how goods are produced and what goods are produced, but that's a political taboo, because I've just described and I hope the president won't object, I'm going to use the word socialism. Okay. I did this in Washington and it was okay. I did it in Washington during Reagan's regime in the headquarters of EPA and I looked up, not a thunderbolt, but what I mean is this, look, the technical definition of socialism is social ownership and control of the means of production, right? That's what the textbooks said. What I'm saying is, society needs to control the decisions about the means of production, otherwise we can't clean up the environmental mess. So, that's one half the definition. So, that's only half, but it's okay. Why do I raise this question? Because what you're going to hear over and over again is, we don't want to talk about that, but if we don't want to talk about it, what are we going to do? How are we going to tell Ford what kind of cars to make? So, this is a very serious consequence of the situation we're in. Very quickly, let me touch on the rest. I'm not going to say much about the global problems, because you're going to hear a lot about that tomorrow. You know they exist. You also know there's no way to put controls on these things. You have to prevent. You have to prevent the production of carbon dioxide. You have to prevent the emissions of chlorofluorocarbons that destroy ozone. So again, we're going to have to and that's what we're talking about, taking CFCs out of the refrigeration business. What are we going to do about carbon dioxide? That means stopping to burn fossil fuels which is 95% of our energy source. Is there an ecologically sound way to get energy? Yes. Solar energy. Solar energy, doesn't pollute. In many cases, you can take sunshine, convert it directly into electricity. Electricity is a good thing and all you do is make electricity from sunshine. It's called a photovoltaic cell. This is something which is economic right now in New York city. I have a Dustbuster at home. One of these little hand vacuum cleaners. It runs, it has a DC motor, run on a rechargeable battery, that's charged up by plugging into the wall. You've all seen these. I even have a screwdriver that operates that way. I calculated what it costs me to keep that battery charged up and if I spent that money to buy photovoltaic cells to charge up the batteries, in three months I will have paid for the price of the solar device. In other words, it's cheaper to run a Dustbuster on solar energy in New York city today than to plug it into the wall and it's going to become cheaper and cheaper as the price of electricity goes up. So, solar energy is the answer to the global warming crisis, but now I want to introduce... I don't know, when did I start? I'll take a little more time. I really want to say something about the third world situation, because it's really very important. It'll come up during the week and at least I want to get my 2 cents in, before I leave, on this. You will hear probably from some of the speakers, that the environmental problem is a consequence of three factors. One is how many people there are, 'cause we're all pollutants. Polluters, right? The more people, the more resources are used. More resources used, more pollution. So people. The second factor is our affluence. How much fuel is used per capita? True. The third is the technology factor. How much pollutant is produced per unit resources. I'll put it to you very simply, in the case of agriculture, the amount of nitrate and pesticide pollution is governed by the number of people in the country. Did I say that? By the number of people in the country, the amount of crop produced per capita, right? Multiplied by the amount of pesticides used per unit crop. You write the equation and cancel out and you say, what this says is that the amount of pollutant is equal to the amount of polluters, but those factors enter into it. Three factors, pollute population affluence and the kind of technology. What I've told you is, that the major factor is the kind of technology. How do I know that? Well, take, for example, the fertilizer problem. Nitrogen fertilizer problem. There has been, I don't know what, five to 600% increase in the use of fertilizer per year in total. The amount of crop produced, hasn't gone up that fast. So, the big factor is a big factor of the amount of fertilizer used per unit crop Crop Per capita, hasn't gone up very much, population between 1950 and 1970 went up around 40%. The major factor was the introduction of fertilizer, not more people and not more crops grown and this is true right on down the line. Well, look at the third world. Now there, we have a big increase in population. Population's growing very rapidly, so that when it balances out in perhaps 50 years the world will have twice the present number of people and you'll be told, there's no way that the earth can support that many people. There isn't enough food that can be produced. Well, I have to tell you, at the present time we produce enough food on the globe to feed twice the population of the earth and the rate at which population is going up and food production is going up, predicts that there will be enough food produced to feed everybody. So, why are people starving in the third world? The answer is very simple. They don't have enough food. Other people have more food. When we send food to Ethiopia, nobody starves here. There is not a limit to food, it's simply not distributed properly. Well, some countries can't grow enough food to support themselves, for example, England. They don't starve, they're wealthy enough to buy food. Haiti or Bangladesh can't produce enough food, but they're too poor to buy it, so they starve. In other words the food problem is not a population problem, nor is the environmental pollution problem. I have to tell you, I just did an analysis for the United nations on this and you can show that pollution is growing faster. The rate of nitrogen pollution in the third world is growing faster than the population. Why? Because they're introducing our anti ecological technologies, using the same fertilizer, pesticides and so on. Well, you say, but nevertheless the population is growing so fast it's going to overwhelm everything. The Earth's resources are finite. Well, there's a misconception there. People speak of spaceship earth. A self-contained thing dependent on its own resources. I have to tell you that is a total misconception. The earth is not self contained. Yes. All the matter on the earth is all we've got, but energy comes in from the outside, constantly from the sun. If you have enough energy, you can reuse matter all you want. Matter is indestructible. When we use it we can disseminate it, we never destroy it. If iron rusts, the iron is still there but it's scattered around in the iron oxide. To get it back, all we have to do, is have enough energy to gather it back together, smelt it and we have iron again. So that the only limit to economic development on the earth in terms of resources, is solar energy. Well, how much do we get? Let me tell you this. The energy that falls daily on the land surface alone of the globe is a thousand times larger than the energy that we now use to support ourselves. A thousand times. Let's say we can only get to 10% of the land to recapture the energy. We're still a hundred times away from the limit of solar energy. In other words, there really, we're nowhere near that limit and it's silly to think of that as an element of policy and it's a really serious misconception. In fact, it's even not true of the spaceship. The spaceship has got big wings out there. Photovoltaic cells gathering in solar energy. That's what runs it. Now, we've gotta be careful, there are a lot of loose metaphors in this business and you gotta be very careful about it. Anyway, let me get the population. As you'll probably hear from Ann Ehrlich, the opposite view. What about population control? Turns out that human society has worked out a way of controlling its own population. In this country and most industrialized countries herd a balanced population. They're quite close to balanced and we know how it worked out. For example, in England or Sweden, before where their good statistics go way back. Before the industrial revolution there was a high birth rate and a high death rate and the population was stable. When the industrial and agricultural revolution began the death rate began to fall, but the birth rate remained high, because people expected the kids to die. That's what they did. So, they had more in order to have some to survive and the result was a big upsurge in population, but then 30 years or so later, the birth rate begins to fall until in the middle of the last century, it began to balance out. In other words, the way in which society balances populations, is by improving the standard of living. That's what happens. In the third world this hasn't happened. Why? And this is something that everybody forgets about. What about the societies that they have population explosion? Oh, are they primitive. Well, some of the Eskimos, they have no population explosion. What's the difference between the Eskimos and Latin America or Africa? Very simple. It's not ecological. It's political Latin America and Africa, were colonies. The third world, where you have rapid growth of the population, is the consequence of colonialism? How did it happen? The Dutch went into Indonesia. The population was stable, high death rate, high birth rate. They brought in doctors and engineers, to exploit the resources. The death rate went down, population goes up, but they didn't allow what's called the demographic transition, which took place in Holland Didn't allow it to happen in Indonesia, because they took the wealth that was produced out of Indonesia, back to Holland where it helped them go through their demographic transition and in effect, colonialism is a kind of demographic parasitism, which with a mother country using this population effect in the colonial country, in the exploited country to support itself. So, that what has happened is we have prevented the normal change in population that occurs with rising standards of living and to put it very simply, the issue in the third world is not controlling the population but it's ending poverty. It's poverty that prevents people from seeing that it's okay not to have as many children because they're going to survive. Infant mortality is immediately responsible to the economic level and that's what determines how many children people are gonna have. Well, I wanted to say that because, I'll wind it up now, because there is a tendency now to think of the three areas of concern, local pollution, global pollution and the third world and look for solutions that help each of these. So for example, take global warming. You will find that the nuclear power people are going to tell you that that's the answer. It doesn't produce carbon dioxide and it's true. What it would do would be to stop carbon dioxide production, we get a lot of electricity and an enormous amount of pollution. So, you would solve the global warming problem at the expense of the pollution problem. Let me say something even more outrageous. Take the idea that the way to deal with global warming, is energy conservation. A good thing. That is you get more... You use energy more efficiently and it's a good thing but it's been proposed now as the way to deal with global warming. That will strike terror in the hearts of people in the third world. Let me explain that. You tell them, look, you improve the efficiency with which you use energy and it will bring down carbon dioxide production.\" Now, let's say 50% improvement in efficiency, okay. He meant 50% less carbon dioxide. This is a country that wants to double its economic level and its energy level in the next 10 years. Doing that will wipe out the effect of energy conservation. Energy Conservation is a necessary thing to do, but it's not sufficient, if you want to have economic development. Just as a control, instead of a prevention will prevent economic development. Do you know why we haven't had anything change since 1982 in the pollution levels? It's because more cars and so on, have been driven. In other words there's a balance between economic activity and the level of pollution, if you're dependent on controls. So, what we have to do in the third world is develop our new systems of technology, make them available to third world countries and help them with the finances of dealing with it and let me tell you there's no way of doing that without wiping out the debt that the third world now carries which is a trillion dollars. A trillion dollars. $50 billion dollars a year now goes from developing countries to rich industrialized countries. The poor are helping the rich. There's no way that this can go on, particularly since they're going to be more and more the people who will be responsible for pollution as their population goes up. So, we come to the final point which is, how are we going to do all this? It's going to cost money. My figure is something like a hundred billion dollars a year for the next 10 years in the United States to do various things. For example, buy out the petrochemical industry. Incidentally, the petrochemical industry is not a viable, economically viable industry, if you believe in environmental quality. Why do I say that? All of the 400 billion pounds of toxic chemicals they produce, 1% is destroyed. Only 1%. 99% goes right into the environment. If they want to be ecologically sound they'll have to destroy all of it. Well, we know what that costs. It'll cost them... I have that number written down somewhere. It'll cost them something like $150 billion a year to destroy all of their toxic chemicals. Do you know what their income is on sales every year? $157 billion. You would wipe out the industry if you required it to be ecologically sound. Wipe it out. So, in my scheme for revising things, you have to buy out the petrochemical industry. It's only a $200 billion asset industry. That's only $20 billion a year. Anyway, when you go through all of that and add a hundred billion dollars a year for wiping out the third world debt and do this on a worldwide basis, you come up with a figure of some $400 billion a year, for the next ten years, to make the transition to doing what your Institute program talks about, transforming the ecological crisis. I've told you how to do it. I'm telling you what it will cost worldwide, $400 billion. Where are we going to get it? There's only one possible source and that's the military budget. So, that's why the last line in my new book says, \"In order to make peace with the planet, we have to make peace with each other.\" Thank you.\r\n\r\n- We do have time for a few questions. Go ahead and if you have a question, raise your hand.\r\n\r\n- Anybody want equal time? Yes.\r\n\r\n- Can you please comment on the performance today of our environmentalist president?\r\n\r\n- You want me to comment on Mr. Bush? Yes. He's a self declared environmental president. Let me tell you a couple of things that he's done. He's proposed a Clean Air bill. Well, as a matter of fact, I should tell you this. EPA has declared that controls don't work and they've decided that the new strategy has to be prevention. That was set by the last thing that Mr. Thomas did before he retired and Mr. Bush in his speech said, he is for prevention. Then along comes the bill and a prominent feature in the bill, is this business of buying and selling the right to pollute. In other words, if you're an industry and you want to pollute more you can buy the right from another industry that will pollute less. Now, that is not only, not preventing pollution, it requires pollution. Otherwise you've got nothing to trade and it's really completely ridiculous. The other thing that's being proposed, just last week is to have the federal government override state environmental regulations that are more stringent than theirs, particularly in pesticides. That's a move against the referendum in California, which will do a great deal to cut down on chemical pollution. So, I don't believe that Mr. Bush is really an environmental president. That's why I didn't vote for him. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Mr. President as opposed to office How do you feel about that?\r\n\r\n- Well, if you say we will tax you when you have a big car, what will happen will be that rich people will pollute. They'll pay the tax and drive the big car and pollute. That does not reduce pollution. I mean, it doesn't eliminate it and somebody will have to build big cars and they'll be polluting. So, I don't see any way out of simply saying we've got to figure out some democratically feasible way of getting industries and farmers to do what ought to be done. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Most of your examples-\r\n\r\n- A little louder. Why don't you stand up. I can't hear you.\r\n\r\n- Most of your examples dealt with national principles How do you get global cooperation if you want to\r\n\r\n- Yeah, because that's a very crucial question and I think the United States and the other industrialized countries, but particularly us, have the biggest obligation here. Let me put it to you this way. We could build up a huge industry for manufacturing photovoltaic cells and the price could be brought down 90%. This was all worked out in the Carter administration. There was a bill for $400 billion, or $400 million of... Numbers get very big. $400 million, half a billion dollars of photovoltaic cells to be purchased by the federal government for its own use. It was demonstrated that the industry would so expand, that the price would come down by 90% and in five years it would begin to compete with utility electricity. Had we done that, we could then turn around to third world countries that need electric power and give them a clean economic way to produce electricity wherever they needed, instead of building central power stations. In the same way, if we understood that we could produce ethanol and you can produce ethanol from crops without interfering with food production by changing the crop system, that can be done. If we could produce a model T ethanol still that runs on solar energy, very efficient and make it available to third world countries that would help them enormously, because they could grow various kinds of crops and use biomass in various ways to produce alcohol. In other words, we need to, in my terms, pay reparations for colonialism by wiping out the debt but also we ought to pay reparations by helping them build up these ecologically sound enterprises. If you go to them and say you shouldn't introduce so many power plants because they pollute. You shouldn't be growing so much crop because the chemicals will be bad for you. That's what throws the whole politics of this thing into a mess. So, you can't ask them to develop a photovoltaic cell industry, we need to do it. So, it's really our responsibility. I don't see any way out. The Northern part of the globe has a very serious moral responsibility to the Southern part and unless we do something about it we're not gonna be able to solve the problem globally. Yes.\r\n\r\n- What were you gonna say about our trash incinerators?\r\n\r\n- Oh, what was I going to say about your trash incinerators? well, that incinerators I understand it burns the burnable part of your trash, right? Food garbage, paper and plastic and it produces dioxin, because that's how dioxin is produced. When you burn chlorinated plastic and paper together and that's a control. What's the preventive way of dealing with trash. It's recycling. You see, we make trash. I guarantee you, when I open a can of soup, I have the can in my hand, empty. At that point, it's not trash. It's only trash when I mix it with everything else. At that point, if I put it in a separate container and it goes to a steel plant, it's recycled into another can, same way with glass, same way with paper. So that prevention, the way of preventing trash is recycling, by recycling everything and it turns out that 90% of the trash can be recycled. That includes recycling food garbage into compost, which would be a good thing to do in Iowa, because you're losing soil very fast. One of the crazy arguments you get from the incinerator people, \"Why what's the market for compost?\" And you have to tell them how many millions of tons of soil this country is losing every year and this is a way of returning it. In fact, it will hardly make a dent, but it's a good idea anyway. So, what the answer is recycling, but what we call intensive recycling, where everything that you can is recycled and the rest will turn out to be plastic and the thing to do with that is to ban it. Yes.\r\n\r\n- In some industries like cotton, there is no more union in Has this done any good or maybe bad,\r\n\r\n- Right, and this is a move. Now, Exxon has appointed an environmentalist to its board of directors. I spoke outside the board of directors meeting with the Exxon corporation and what I called for was taking over the board of directors. I mean, what you need is a voting majority, don't you? You see, the problem is very simple. If Exxon and the auto companies make decisions based on profit maximization alone, we won't get what we need. Somehow, we have got to get in there with an operational voice and the auto workers union itself could do many things that it doesn't even do. For example, as part of a contract negotiation, they could say, we think you ought to be building small cars, or co-generators that produce heat and electricity. Fiat produces a very small cogeneration in Italy. In other words, one way to get at this is for the workers to say \"We here as we think, that what we produce ought to be done in ways that are ecologically sound.\" That's one way. Another way is for consumers. Look at the thing about ALR. When mothers decided that they weren't going to buy Apple juice, very quickly, ALR was taken off the market. The same thing is beginning to happen with polystyrene throwaways. Those are ways of working, but in the long run it wouldn't do for us to wait until a bad decision is made, then we mobilize people on the board of directors or as consumers to object. It will take us a generation to clean up each mistake after it's made. So I think politically, we have to find a way of getting our 2 cents into the decisions.\r\n\r\n- You have time for one more question?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- It's been estimated that a very large portion, I'm not sure how much, of our population lives within 50 miles of coastline in And how would you address the problems related to the use of in the coastline? Then, secondly, how do you feel about Garrett Hardin's immigration amendment?\r\n\r\n- Well, let me take the last point. Garrett Hardin is an ecologist who is in favor of drastic controls on population. Immigration. Garrett Hardin actually wrote in an article... Well, he recently came out in an article on Newsday and opposed sending food to starving third world countries. He's opposed. Why, because all that does is to keep them going in their imbalance. They have too many people for the resources and it's better to let nature take its course and then to die off rather than keep them alive for awhile. I think that has no basis in fact. The reasons that I've told you. there is no shortage of food on the globe and I regard those positions as ethical, political and I violently disagree with Hardin's position. I think that there is no reason why we can't continue to welcome people from other countries in this country and the people who object to immigration seem to me to be people who are objecting to racial differences and I think that's politically a reprehensible position to take. It's racist. A guy in the guise of ecology, but this is not an ecological problem. The problem in the third world is not the overpopulation. The problem in the third world is poverty which we have imposed on. We have imposed on them. The thing that really galls me about the idea of keeping the Mexicans and Latin Americans out of this country, their poverty is a result of American economic oppression. Remember United Fruit. We went in there and transformed their agriculture to support our economy and now we're saying they're impoverished. In fact, we've done worse. We've sent soldiers in there to prevent them from developing their own political regimes, right? And now we're saying these people are under terrible pressure. They're trying to escape, now keep them out of our country. This is a political position. It is not a scientific. My position is not scientific either. I'm expressing an anti-racist position, an anti-colonial position and I think Mr. Hardin is expressing a political position, but it's the reverse. Neither is ecology and I think you have to recognize that ecology is not the realm in which the environmental problems have occurred. The environmental crisis didn't arise in the ecosystem, it arose in the system of production and if you want to look for the cause of the environmental crisis, you go to Detroit and Houston, Texas in the corporate boardrooms. Now mind you, you will hear, I'm sure that Ann Ehrlich is going to take the opposite position. I mean, even take the business of the loss of species and the destruction of the forest in Brazil. Now, do you suppose that they do that just out of viciousness? They're doing it because they're desperate to pay back their debts, which we imposed them. In other words, we have forced them into these desperate things that they're doing. So, the real message I have to give you is the environmental crisis is not an ecological problem. It's an economic and political problem and you have to analyze it in that way. The thing that's confusing to people, is that we live in two worlds and I guess I didn't answer about the... Or did you ask me about the coasts? We live in the world of nature, we're a species, but we also live in a world that we have made and there's a lot of confusion about what's happening in which world and as far as I'm concerned, what we have done in the world that we made, has changed what is happening in the world of nature and as far as I'm concerned, if we had a sensible society it would be entirely possible to have primitive areas retained and ways of people using them without tearing them up, but you see, we've decided that what works in the world that we made is private control over everything. We don't believe in letting the government do anything. Look at what's happened under Reagan. So, what's happening here is that we have destroyed our ability to do sensible things in our world, sensible in their relationship to the natural world and when people say, look, there are so many people and look at them messing the parks and so on. My answer is, well, it's always possible to be stupid and do the wrong thing. To quote a recent movie and I'll close on this. What we have to learn to do is to do the right thing. Well, thank you everybody for...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40884/file/112703#t=0.0,2989.464"}]}]}]}