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Alright, alright, it might just be easier. Thanks, Hellen. I'm a little puzzled at this moment just a, what would be most useful to us because as I see those of you that are here, I'm very conscious that you're already, several of you at least, have a fair amount of background in the area of family planning but let me assume that there are still some kinds of information that we can share profitably. And then, will you please feel comfortable because I am to interrupt if you want to. There's nothing set about this. And if there are questions that you have or comments that you have to make during the time, that's fine with me. And in any case, I will stop soon enough so that we can have some time for questions or for sharing of some ideas. One of the things that we need to remind ourselves is the exponential growth that we're experiencing. I feel though right now as though saying that it's almost a broken record because it is a parent in so many of our publications now, but then, at least when I think about students with whom I have visited and who haven't really had their selective perception turned to population, education, family planning, they still sort of blink their eyes. And so, to review that briefly, when we think about that, a man too early historic times, really just maintained a zero. And then, in the middle 18th century, 0.03 And that is much above zero, in terms of growth. And at that point, it took 240 years to double population. In the 1950s, it was 1.0. And at that point we were reaching 2.5 billion population. And then we were doubling in 70 years. At the prism, we, and these are world figures, you know, we are growing at the rate of a little over 2% and we are now at four billion and that's 35 years. So when you think of, in the 1800s, it was gonna take 240 years, then in the 1950s, which isn't all that long ago, certainly for the younger one, that are here in the audience, that it was going to take 70 years and then 35. And now at the rate we're going, the expectancy is that we will be very close to eight billion by 2000 or 2025. And I have a few transparencies that we can look at to help us to see why that is. And that will be true no matter how successful we are or if we are successful in terms of tempering population growth, we're still going to see that kind of growth. So we need to be prepared for that. One of the things, of course, that made a great deal of difference in those early years was the malnutrition, the famine, the disease, the plague, the war. There were high death rates for all these reasons. Then, there has been the decline, the sudden decline in mortality because of health services going in, in many parts of the world. I can remember back in 1955, when I was in Salzburg, Austria on a international work camp, talking to an Austrian doctor an MD who had just returned from Afghanistan at that point, and was an, with the WHO, World Health Organization in the UN. And he was commenting back at that time. And I didn't think about it so much then, I'd thought about it since, that here they were in the process of bringing in these health services at that point in time and yet paying no attention to the other point of that problem in terms of the births. And so, for sure, there is this period of dis-equilibrium, dis-equilibrium while we're in the Process of this transition. Those of us who are from developed countries, then have gone past that where now, the birth rates are also down. And so, we are back at an equilibrium. In terms of population education, family planning, really population problems as we know it by now, are on the agenda for many, many nations. We know that from the Bucharest conference, Summer before Last, the Rome conference of World Food Conference and the Population Conference. I'm sure we also know there would be a disparity among those of us here. And certainly, in the mix of the population, there would be a lot of controversy. Some of us strong partisan in one way, some in another. I expect not many of us feel very neutral about it and that's alright, but we need to respect that. And therefore, try to keep as open as we can about the various points of view. No matter how I try, before the period is over. I expect you will know where I stand on this but in the meantime, we'll try to bring some of the kinds of issues that we need to look at, no matter what our point of view. Because what it does take of us, I think is, an understanding of the problems and the issues that are involved. And that understanding involves consequences. I think that we cannot really understand unless we go far enough to look at what the consequences of population changes are, because in essence, they then become relevant to us personally but certainly to the young people now and to our children, and to our grandchildren. The other, one of the other things as we talk about the complicated problem of population education in family planning, it is that it's an accumulation of individual acts. That's very different than looking at a public health service where there can be an edict that we do such and such and we have certain kinds of vaccination for some something that's coming. We can do generalized kinds of things for health reasons. And this is acceptable. When we come though to populational education, at least, at this point in time those are individual kinds of decisions. They are within the framework of government policy, but nevertheless, they still are individual decisions. And I think that that forces us to look at the kind of problems that we talk about in a different way. It does mean, of course, that the effects of population growth affects social, biological or environmental area. And certainly, this is important to each of us. I think one of the things also that we need to look at and try to keep in mind are, the populate, the relationship between population and the quality of life. This is really what we're talking about and why we're really concerned. And I think that we do recognize that any culture has its value system. Part of the problem is that we don't all have the same value systems and we have to respect those other value systems but they are other value systems. And so, as we talk about some of the kinds of issues, as we talk about, what is public policy? It has to be in the framework of that, what those, how we define quality of life and what the value system is for those persons? Let's look at a few transparencies that maybe would be helpful to visualize this, a little bit. We're really, what I'm really trying to do is, is look at what is, what makes a population education? We'll talk some about population concepts and demographic analysis of countries. Now let us look at it in this frame of reference. I think as we talk, knowing that it's easiest when we say that this is an individual matter, it isn't hard for us to see things that relate specifically to us and to our family. That's the easiest to see, but then, as we push those ideas or concerns to the neighborhood, to the nation, to the world, it sort of disperses and the same thing in terms of time. And I think, another thing we need to remind ourselves is that, time has a different value in lots of places in the world. It's a very high priority to us. A lot of people don't have that same orientation to time. So these affect quite programming in population education, family planning becomes difficult because we have to get from here to this time span and to this phase span, okay? Then, we're really talking to about these as the term is, the feedback loop, the number of deaths per year, the number of birth per year. And this obviously, is what we're talking about. That makes up the population, what we have and the population growth. Put that then, against this, as another way of looking at that and it is affected then by education, by health services, lots of things in Penn, Japan this. Another way of looking at what affects world population is the availability of resources in this country or in others. What that economy is, the present form of the economy, what those political policies are, what their religious orientation is? All of those are strong factors that affect this. Some may push much heavier. They aren't necessarily, this looks as though it's equal. It's not meant to infer that. Some push upon that much more strongly and, and are, have much more effect than others. Let's look at this now, and trying to, when we talk about the bell-shaped curve, I'm not sure what is the term that is best. Some say, some would prefer developing countries. If we won't quibble about whether we call them under developed or developed or developing or whatever, you do understand what I'm talking about and the differences in these. So that, these are the age ranges. Now, if you take those by single countries they many times, will spill write off. This is so high, especially zero to one, four to five is considerably better. These are, these charts are lumped together in a zero to five. So, if it were separated here, I'm sure you'd concur, Hespeler go much, much farther here, but then, they come in like this. In contrast, for the developed countries, look at the difference in this shape. So that this gives you an orientation thing of what is part of this problem. Now, when you put that then against a death rate, here's the United States. And let me see if I can, then let me put Columbia. These are 10 years old and I don't have 10 years later but it isn't all that much different. It'll serve the purpose of what we're talking about. And here is Columbia. Now let me try and see if I can put those on top. Let's see, I guess, does that do it, approximately? You can see what some of that difference is. Wouldn't be all that much different or wherever in terms of this. And so, this is part of what we're talking about and these literally did spill off the end. Alright, another way then of looking at that, is to really determine what that population growth rate is. Here are the births. Here are the deaths, and this is the difference. And this is that period of transition that we're talking about where they're in dis-equilibrium. And then when you come down to, those in North America, the contrast of this, and this is in the area where you're getting maybe a 3.5% growth here and in here. Okay, another way of looking at this too, is desired family size from some of these selected countries. One of the things as we think about this, and we'll talk about that a little bit more is what you have seen on some of these charts wouldn't jive with this if we could put one on top of the other. Because, in most of the instances the desired family size is less than actual. I don't care who you ask, in the majority of instances, it's less, but even then, you see, look at what this is. Now, a Philippines, alright, take the Philippines as a case in point. Here, they are saying, I had an year on this, I think this was 70, but here, they're saying five. In 74, they were averaging seven. Alright, averaging seven. You know, we know what that means. They're going to do real well to cut their average down by half. They think they're going to do very well to cut their birth rate to four per family. You see, and that's still considerably above the replacement, which is something that's over two. So this, another way of looking at this, I'll give you these one here and then I'll go back two. People say, \"Well it doesn't really make all that much difference.\" Yes, it does make all that much difference. Here is what would happen with two per family. This is, this is US. This is not developing countries, this is US. Here's what would be at 2070? It's courageously from here. Here's what it would be at 2070. And here's what it would be with three. That's one more person per family. I think that sharpens for us what we're talking about. And we don't have to, I get concerned, we don't want to put ourselves in the position of saying, \"That's somebody else.\" It, we need to look at what that means to us so that we can do some comparison. Alright, another way then of looking at this too is, here, are the, when we're talking about growth rates, here, you see, for many, many years, clear up into here. That was running along fairly even. Then, this is where public health services came in, you see? And so, their death rate went way down and their birth rate hasn't adjusted much yet. So this is what we're experiencing right now. Or I put that then against this, in terms of the developed countries. Now these will come to this but we're talking about this lag in here right now that we have with us and isn't going to stop or change tomorrow. Even if programs are successful. Now, another way of comparing that this way. Now this is more recent. That was in 1770 to 1970 to 1940 to 1970 but it still gives you this to see what we're talking about. And certainly then, in terms of the World Food Conference where we're talking about, we can see why there are problems because indeed, those people aren't there right now. Now let's, let's, alright. Now, having seen those then, the two thirds of the present population of the world are in developing countries and one-third in the developed countries. So that means that in those developing countries, those two-thirds are going to double their population at this rate in 28 years, that isn't very long. At the rate of the developed countries, it'll take 70 years. So in other words, an average of the developing countries is over 2.5. An average of a developed is 1%. I'm talking now about population growth. So therefore the most rapid development is in those poor countries. And the burden is where it can at least be accommodated no matter what one feels about it. That's what is real. And one of the reasons is in those developing countries, they have early marriage and virtually universal marriage. So that means a high birth rate. Now, maybe I should have had that for granted. Let me explain what I mean by that. When we think in terms, if you recall on that bell shaped curve, over half the population you now, almost half the population, 47, 48, 49% are normally in those developing countries under 15 years of age. Now that's what we're talking about because from 15 to say, 34 such is, the most crucial years of childbearing. And so, when you have half the population under 15, you've got a number of those getting into their fertile years, right there, and soon. And so, this is, then when there's almost universal marriage one of the significant ways then of lowering birth rates is increase in marriage. The year that they're married, so that, it simply diminishes by that length of time and, and a numbered and a number do that. But in the countries where we have this high population, that's not the pattern, and then, with medical technology coming in and with a very rapid decrease in deaths, it's why this has made a great deal of difference. So what we're really are saying then is that, whichever is caused and whichever is effecting and one can make points for both sides. High birth rates are the companion of poverty. You can say poverty induces it. You can say that induces poverty but whichever, there's no doubt some of both, they do indeed go together. One of the things too, when we talk about, remember, one of those factors is economic factors. Economic growth is proceeding in a number of these countries and proceeding very well. But the problem is that the population is growing faster. And so, the per capita is not being improved. I think we can't say that the economy is not improving. We can say that that the betterment of life for those individual people is not, because of the rate of population. Now, looking again then, at the momentum of growth, one item to remind us is that the rate of growth, to think about what that is today. And then the next question is what then will it be tomorrow, the long range tomorrow? And that we've got this momentum that's gonna persist for some decades because those persons are already in childbearing years and high fertility simply can't be changed overnight. I think, let's look at some of the consequences of, of these population trends on the world community. Many of us have friends abroad either that we've known here or have traveled abroad. I think there's no question that the, that everyone wants a higher standard of living for their family, whatever it is, wherever they are they want something better for their family than they had for themselves. I think that's universal. They want better health for their children. They want more education for their children. They want a harmonious environment. I don't think we'll argue about those. The problem then is how to get to that and how can we look at the consequences of what we're presently doing in terms of the value system then that those particular people had? Perhaps we should remind ourselves a little bit too of some of the cultural nuances that, that we'd better not take for granted. Another story that's not a new story. I think it was a Korean story in the first place of this monkey and fish. And you may recall where the monkey at, it was during a period of a flood and the monkey scrambled up the tree, and he saw this fish struggling up the stream. And so, he in his humanitarian desire reached down and scooped up the fish and the fish wasn't very happy and he wasn't surprised. And I suppose we could look at some of the things that we have done in terms of education and advising in technological development, that some of our laudable intentions weren't really so very well received and received because of not understanding what those particular nuances were, what their value system was. And I expected that it's still fair to say that a number of us have cultural blinders that we're usually ignorant about and preventing us from fully understanding what the needs and desires are. Yet, we do have the spirit to want to do something about it. And it's not a case of wanting to diminish that spirit. Another question that I think that we need to raise in, as some of you recall Dorothy Lee, who used to be with us on the campus. And I remember she was a cultural anthropologist and I remember her talking about this topic and the ethics of change. And one of the things that she said was, \"When you come into a community and even when you know and think you do understand some of these nuances, their value systems, some of the differences, and are there awhile, is it right for you to bring in change? \" Because that's going to do something that's different than they already have.\" But then she raised the opposing question, \"is it right not to?\" And I think this is the dilemma that we keep having because change will come eventually. And whether or not, then we want to be involved in that. And if we are then certainly, as knowledgeably as we can because certainly it is imperative that they do any of those changes that they do produce a tertiary secondary and tertiary effects. Oh, one example that we were talking about was in terms of other water supply and all the things that come with a water supply, you have to think about waste. I'm talking now about a developing country. They aren't used to thinking about that. You have to think about how to maintain the pumps. They don't have personnel that know how to maintain the bumps because they've never had pumps. You have to think about spare parts. They don't have spare parts. And how is communication and how is transportation to get those spare parts? You have to have some kind of administration to operate that, they haven't had that. They've had the social customer going through the world to visit it. It's an entirely different thing. If someone isn't using it, someone has to turn it off. They aren't used to turning it off. It's some of these kinds of things, no matter what the problem is, it really become very complex. And we need to try to think through what those consequences are. And the other kind of thing that's a sharp one, I guess is, where you were still eating beef steak. Others are, you do maybe eating grasshoppers, you know. Who says, one is better than the other? We do, but it's because we're used to that. And some of these kinds of of barriers that we have to overcome. Another thing in terms, and I'm saying this basically in terms of change and then wanting to put that back into the perspective that as we talk about change, in through, population education and family planning, that that again, is an individual matter as well as a, a country, a country matter. There is, there's reason for fatalism that many people have, and it's a strong one. They don't think about having mastery over nature, we do. Many of them as we've talked to women who have had the size families that we're talking about, they really expect in the first place that 50% of those won't grow up. That's why they have that many. Well, that, that, you know, that makes us wince. Because one, one that does not mean that there is a different relationship in terms of, of concern for family. It's realistic from their point of view. And, and we need to respect that and why it is not easy to change. One of the things, when we think about, there was one other story that I wanted to remember to tell you. Oh, I think it was a girl from Columbia who was talking about a bride, bride price. And the response to other US person was, you know, he required money and cattle for that. And, and the response was you didn't, don't you even think enough of her that it requires money and cattle. Well, who says, we have other ways of getting that kind of value. And in terms of norms, another one in, in the norms of modesty. I remember this story about the Amazon Indians, that someone was telling about that, they were embarrassed if they were new, but not if they had a spring of beads. This, again, it's these kinds of patterns that are, they are so short and so sharp to us because they are very relative. Let's look at a few of the major issues in terms of what needs to be considered by developing countries, by us, as we work with persons in developing countries. And let me say, in terms of the ways in which we've been involved in home economics, that we have been involved in family planning and the integration of home economics subject matter in the family planing. At their request. And that at least makes us more comfortable. Because they are the ones that are asking. I remember even just last year, one of the Thai women was here from Bangkok and she was in the ministry, in the ministry of education. And she is preparing materials to include family planning in their vocational system all around Thailand, the country of Thailand for boys and girls. And I said, \"Well, you know, but we can learn a lot from you. \"We aren't at that point.\" And she said, \"Well, we're the ones that have the problem.\" And that's all she said about that, which simply says to me you know, okay, where here, you can get that from us. We, we have some things that we can get from you particularly in terms of, areas of subject matter. What's some of the kinds of things, let's look at at a few of these. In terms of economic development, is it possible that there can be substantial improvement with their present organization in terms of food? Is it possible to feed and improve nutrition for a decent diet? It's one thing to increase the amount of food. It's a second thing to improve a diet. And we may do well enough to increase the amount of food and not improve the diet. Hopefully, it would be both. One of the knotty problems is income distribution. Can we help so that if there is lowered fertility that that income can be distributed more equitably. We don't have to think very hard about some of the problems related to that, with lots of low income, lots of poor and an elite and little in-between. And so, we're talking about this. Can there be ways of finding gainful employment, both agriculturally and urban? One of the things, of course, that is happening is, the movement from agriculture to urban, agricultural area to urban area. However bad it is, in the urban area, a number of those families feel it's still better than what they had in the agricultural area because they hope to find employment, they hope to find health services, they hope to find education, and they don't have any of those in the rural area. While when they really get there, I mean, they are better off, is the new question. But, but that's what still keeps pulling them. Will there be ways that they, that they can extend the coverage and quality of education? I think one of the things that is difficult, extremely difficult for us to really internalize is, what a big task that is when we talk about education. I remember the summer that I was in Malawi and we went to visit a primary school and the, the noise, it was an English class, and they were so proud, just so proud. They had all these kids, you know, packed into a school room, sitting like three at a desk, , and they were reciting and they didn't have any books, they didn't have any paper. And the teacher that they had happened to have a gosh, awful voice, just terrible. Can you like, I can hear you all, all the time. And so, here, were 30 youngsters imitating that pitch as well as the sound. And they didn't have anything else, you know, it's all like, and it was just shattering. And then when we talked to that teacher afterwards, she had gone through third grade and she was teaching first and they were glad to have that much. That's what I think is hard for us to remember. And we take for granted. So when we talk about increasing education, when we talk about literacy, it's a great, big guess, and it won't be done tomorrow. Like population control, it won't be done tomorrow. In terms of health services, can they extend the quality of those health systems? How far and how fast and how accepting will they be? I remember Dr. Shu in and he was talking about the development of programs in Taiwan. And I think this was about in 1958, France. And he was very interested in, in population education, family planning, but he said, I realized that the government wasn't but they could buy alright, pre-pregnancy health. So I just called it pre-pregnancy health. And then for some years they had pre-pregnancy health and their maternal and child health. And then they saw what that did and then they could move into and they had no problems with that of moving then into a positive stance in terms of family planning and it was interesting to see that, you know. So I call that being creative with what those circumstances are. In terms of whether or not some of these developing countries can really do better than we had and utilizing resources or without undue deterioration of the environment. I hope they learned some things from us as well of what not to do as well as what to do. Another thing that's a crucial thing is, in terms of women's rights, as we have been reading over the past some months, as you read the some of the outcome and recording of the IWI conference, International Women's Year conference, last summer in Mexico city, certainly there's much to be done worldwide in the status of women. And I think that probably one of the factors that has the, will have some of the most effect on what we're talking about will be, what is that ultimate role of women? As it is not difficult to document that as women are educated first, and then as women are employed, second, that the numbers of children decrease, and one doesn't have to explain certainly to a group of women, why that is. And besides then, they're finding more fulfillment themselves. I think when we look back at that chart and know that the desired number of women and number of children is not the same as a number they have. It's related to this because in many cases, the status now is the number of children they have, that is their status in that society. And it's a very deep seated one, and that isn't going to change tomorrow either. And this is something that I think we need to be sensitive to. I think one of the things that we are saying is that we hope that families, couples, and particularly, the women, that they have the privilege of determining spacing of children, if they could do just that and nothing else, many kinds of things would be solved because most women are not going to choose to have a youngster every year. They know that's debilitating health wise. And, and I worry about them making that kind of decision if they have the option, the problem is helping them to know there is such a thing as choice and then, to help them to know that there are services available to them. And so, in terms of what, again, we've been trying to do in home economics, it's not the services, we've been trying to help them to see what is important to them in decision-making in their, with their families, so that then, they can see why the use of those services are important. One reason that some of the family planning programs haven't been effective is that, if they're have been family planners that are out in communities, getting them to that family planning clinic and getting a, however many those are or whatever per person that they get, that doesn't keep them coming because they don't really see that there are all these other kinds of consequences related to it. So in terms of women's rights, but the broader, the broader topic than that really is, these human rights. It isn't a case of gender. Obviously, women are the ones that bear the children. And so I think it is appropriate to give them their due amount of time, but it is a family affair. And what we're really talking about is whether or not these limitations can be seen in terms of improving the, the human beings who are produced, that's ultimately what we want, what we want to be done. And we want to be sure that couples in are enabled to be able to control their fertility as they want to for health and humanitarian reasons. So then, ultimately, we're talking about two things, we're talking about trying to be aware of accommodating the inevitable larger population we're gonna have. And then, the next one is, trying to look at what growth is desirable and how can we help people to achieve that. And I don't think any of us want to be in the position where that's legislated or enforced. I think we went to that. I think we all are concerned in terms of the human beings that are involved and for their betterment and for the lives that they had. Now, let me pause there and see if you have any kinds of questions or comments. One of the things that I have thought has been a good summary for the kind of comments made just now. It's in terms of toying me, I happen to enjoy me very much. And a while back, I was cleaning files and I found an article that he had written back in 1959, which was in yesterday. And let me just share it with you in terms of a partner speaking about, he was speaking at the 10th FAO conference in 1959, and this is what he said, \"All over the world till lately, and in most of world still today, mankind in its sexual life has been following the course of nature. \"That is to say, it has been breeding up to the maximum. \"And that's in terms of that beginning of that chart we were talking about. \"To let nature take her extravagant course, in the reproduction of the human race, may have made sense in an age in which we were also letting her take her course in decimating mankind by the casualties of war, pestilence and famine. \"Being human, we haven't last revolted against that senseless waste. \"We haven't started to impose, nature's heartless play, a humane order of our own but when once man has begun to interfere with nature, he cannot afford to stop halfway. \"We cannot with impunity cut down the death rate. \"And at the same time allow the birth rate to go on taking nature's course. \"We must consciously try to establish an equilibrium or sooner or later, famine will stock abroad again. \"And here we come back to the heart of our problem. \"The death rate can be reduced by public action taken by the few. \"The birth rate can be reduced or stabilized only by private action taken by the many. \"What is the true end of man? \"Is it to populate the earth with the maximum number of human beings that can be kept alive simultaneously by the world's maximum food supply, or is it to enable human beings to lead the best kind of life that the spiritual limitations of human nature allow. \"The first of these two possible objectives seem irrational. \"What matters surely is not that the surface of this planet should hold say, four thousand million instead of, three thousand million living human beings. \"What matters is that living, living beings whatever their number, shall develop the highest capacities of their nature. \"And if this is the true end of man what we should aim at is the optimum size of population for purpose in the economic and social circumstances of each successive generation.\" Robert said that very nicely. So thank you for coming.\r\n\r\n- I think it's really important that there must be a population . In your travels around the developed worlds, countries. Do you find that there's any one group or any one rust that you know, once the government says, okay, what's on the television, what's billboards by the railroad station, that sort of thing. Who's out there at the grass roots, doing it ? And with the third grade educational, those grades. is there anything plus that we can look at now ?\r\n\r\n- Oh, I think so. I think that one of the things that that that is increased first is it seems to me where this starts first is in a maternal and child health, public health, in any country. And part of it is how many stations can they man? How much of a budget will be allocated? So that's government allocating that. The same thing would be true in terms of education. Like this one I was describing from Thailand, they've done a great deal and they are committed to this. They are the organizations that are old, respectable organizations, international planned Parenthood UNFBA United Fund, United nations Fund for Population Activities. I guess it has always had a hard time stumbling all those initials. So there are a number, a number of supporting groups. And one of the things I guess which we really didn't talk about is that, that it's not easy, for example, in a Muslim country and a Catholic country to get this kind of thing going. The but, it is interesting that in the Philippines, for example as you know, is basically Catholic, 90% plus. They have a government position supported by Marcos. They have a strong federal national coordination of family planning efforts. And when I was out there in 74, at this workshop for extension, which was what we call state and regional and field staff, and they had three priests, two of them for, and one against and talking about this and very open about this. Colombia, I think is a case where it's kind of gone up and down. There was a period about five years ago as I remember Maria, when they were more supportive than they are right now. Maybe that's changing again. But part of that was that it was in self-defense. There were so many self-induced abortions that there was much concern by the church that if one uses the term lesser of two evils, then, then that was one of them because they were very concerned about that. But I, you may know better than I, I'm not sure right now but I think that we've had trouble, you know, in the last two years, getting confirmation of people coming because the government wouldn't support them coming and maybe the same right now.\r\n\r\n- Alright, in that paper we want to expand, it says come all to in the last few years. I think it is the ,\r\n\r\n- What does that kinda got to do with this.\r\n\r\n- I don't know , but I feel it's not the same as .\r\n\r\n- So, it's not an easy route, but I guess that, I feel really in spite of all this, that I'm sharing, I feel relatively optimistic because I, I suppose one reason I do is that, we're working with people who are trying to do something about it positively. And so it's not a short run success story but in a long run, I do have confidence that that there will be ways to accommodate. And I do feel that there are a number of agencies and such that, that are ready and moving in, in a support system. If I'm speaking to the kind of question you're asking. Go on.\r\n\r\n- I think he was asking , yeah , you know international plan for example. If the government says we're all , or foster family planning, then where are the effective groups, you know, .\r\n\r\n- You think it has to go concurrently. Isn't that what you're saying, Helen? That it needs to go concurrently. It is government support. It is these other private agencies.\r\n\r\n- You know, when I said the contribution to planned parenthood,\r\n\r\n- I think it's,\r\n\r\n- Oh, indeed, indeed, I wouldn't hesitate. Indeed, I wouldn't hesitate. They that, they're an organization that don't take all the cream off of, off the top. Though the people that;ve been working in that are committed persons. Any that I've seen.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, and it takes a long,\r\n\r\n- Long, yeah.\r\n\r\n- Long hard work .\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- And to solve problems in a way .\r\n\r\n- Right, they need them for work.\r\n\r\n- yet they see the problem there . I mean, there's so many fractions there . I considered 15 years ago. First in .\r\n\r\n- Now in, in Taiwan, you can correct me on this, Helen. It seems to me that in a period of 10 years, they decreased their population growth from 3% to 0.5, which is really very rapid. They are one of the more successful, there in Korea.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I think one of the most, I remember when I was there, in like 15 years ago, I started noticing, . And then about a few years ago .\r\n\r\n- 15.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, and it happened and typically now as two, is there a social pressure of just Columbian people, you know, the woman is bearing her fourth children, , child, sorry, .\r\n\r\n- Isn't that far yet, isn't that far yet?\r\n\r\n- As I understood, that's what happened in Japan. You know, when they passed it on 1948, legalizing abortion, they began to reuse it, the family planning methods and so, everything else was illegal, but it worked. And I understand from Japanese people who I've talked to that there is a social stigma and start whipping out your third child. She's going down a knot. You know, it's still very dramatic.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, so it's,\r\n\r\n- That was a very strong for the Japanese dies .\r\n\r\n- Well, the other thing in your Chinese hierarchy, it certain is the sons. You know, this is just the number of children, but two sons.\r\n\r\n- They keep up, you know, until third arrive.\r\n\r\n- And if that takes seven, it takes seven.\r\n\r\n- You know, women freakout . There's signs of .\r\n\r\n- Women are affected in part, genetic manipulation where health science to determine sex of children and that's happening in the near future.\r\n\r\n- That will be you know, the next will be interesting to.\r\n\r\n- If we now, probably, it's sort of backward way.\r\n\r\n- I think one of the things now is that, the kinds of decisions that we're talking about, are once harder decision and we had . Reading, I mean, yours, would be much harder to make than ours. The forces are so different that, that it's not easy.\r\n\r\n- Echo in this country, well, man, I got relatives who have respectably, you have four kids.\r\n\r\n- That's what I mean, that's what I mean.\r\n\r\n- And it's from , or it's only gonna be coming an acceptable way on people to not .\r\n\r\n- And to be childless.\r\n\r\n- You know.\r\n\r\n- You have to be.\r\n\r\n- Some may solve this, it's acceptable to become potential grandparents, .\r\n\r\n- We ain't probably had but I.\r\n\r\n- But I don't need to, you know,\r\n\r\n- Grandparents still wanna be grandparents.\r\n\r\n- Their parents are not grandchildren. And the pressure of them .\r\n\r\n- Well, sure, but they're still,\r\n\r\n- But I don't think that's universal.\r\n\r\n- There are still,\r\n\r\n- I think that's changing,\r\n\r\n- A little.\r\n\r\n- I think more than you,\r\n\r\n- Oh, I think that's correct.\r\n\r\n- To recognize that it used to be just everybody but the rest of society is much more supportive of the young couple and everything else .\r\n\r\n- Than the parent.\r\n\r\n- To the extent that, the adoption process is helping right now . It's so, oh, or yes, but I think if we can look around .\r\n\r\n- Oh, yes, I do too. It wasn't even conversation when I was a student not long ago.\r\n\r\n- world.\r\n\r\n- I guess, I would think of the Muslim countries first, and then probably Catholic next. Would you think so, Maria? I believe it's even strong. The greatest resistance. I think it'd be the strongest. How would you feel about that Helen?\r\n\r\n- There is so many about how successful an era .\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Yes, Arab, Arab countries, you're saying.\r\n\r\n- You know, .\r\n\r\n- I think in in a generalized fashion to try and answer your question. I think that probably Muslims first would be the hardest to crack. But I remember ASP Keeney who has been with International Planned Parenthood in Asia in your area of the world for 25 years by choice of human being and he's 70 something now. And he would say, \"Now, what that really says is, it takes longer, it isn't that you can't do it, it just takes longer.\" Which I think is behind your question, you know, but.\r\n\r\n- Right, well, the, because they're their own cultural mores are so strong in terms of the roles of women and that the role of women is to bear children. And that's very, very strong.\r\n\r\n- Is that closely .\r\n\r\n- Right, right. It's related to that, certainly, yes.\r\n\r\n- Is it now .\r\n\r\n- Who has come out and support women.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Women.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Women's rights.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- There is one who has,\r\n\r\n- Well, it'll take that. And that comes little by little.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45582/file/118590#t=0.0,3702.048"}]}]}]}