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I'm gonna read for about 10 minutes or so, and then show some slides and try to read at the same time and then turn the slides off and read some more. Now, since I'm a philosopher, I don't usually present slides as I discussed Hagle or Plato. So, you'll have to bear with me as I pushed the wrong buttons and go backwards and so forth. I should begin with an expression of gratitude to the college of design for so kindly invited me to this conference. It's an honor for a philosopher to be asked to speak before an audience of experts about a topic and their area of expertise about which he knows a little. I hope that my acceptance of this sauna will not prove to be another example of a philosophers Hubris. The suitable antidote for which has traditionally been a draft of hemlock cheerfully administered by the audience. I'm gonna run at the end. I shall, in any case, always be grateful for the opportunity of doing something which residents of Washington rarely do, namely to visit what are condescendingly referred to as the truest attractions of the city. When I lived in Rome, I frequently marveled at the indifference of Romans to the treasures around them. As soon deduced that when in Rome, one should not always do as the Romans do. I finally had the chance to apply the same accent to Washington and for this ungrateful. My reflections on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in particular, were provoked some time ago in a quite natural way. Namely by a visit to the Memorial itself. I happened upon it almost by accident. The fact which is, we'll see in a moment, is do at least in part of the design of the Memorial. And find myself reduced to odd silence. I resolved to attend the dedication ceremonies November 13th, 1982. The dedication was an extraordinary event. And without question, the most moving public ceremony I've ever attended. I do not believe that the architecture which causes similar responses to resonate in virtually all who entered into its embrace can be adequately conveyed by photographs. Generally speaking architecture can speak only to those who actually experienced the space formed by the architect's design. And one cannot enter into a picture the way in which one can enter into the object reproduced by it. Unlike poetic and musical compositions, architectural compositions don't travel well. This is especially true with the Vietnam Veterans Memorial again, for reasons which will become apparent in a moment. Hence the slides of it, which I'll be showing you don't come anywhere near it to showing and exhibiting the power of the Memorial itself. Our response to the Memorial should not remain mute however, words are capable of enriching and deepening our experience of it. As you no doubt know the Veterans Memorial has been extremely controversial. Though no more so than any other monuments in the same area. The Washington Memorial for example, was extremely controversial. As a matter of fact, no major memorial on the mall has taken so short of time to build, from the moment of fundraising to the moment the last stone was placed. I have no intention of arguing for or against the events it memorializes. But it is not possible to discuss the Memorial satisfactorily without understanding why it has stirred such debate. For the architecture of the Memorial is not neutral or more accurately put, an effort to embody a neutral stance architecturally necessarily reflects a view. The view that neutrality is valuable in memorializing momentous political events. And the debate over the Memorial isn't part of the debate over whether that view is defensible. After all, war memorials, by their very nature, recall struggles to the death over values. It would thus be a mistake to try to view such memorials merely aesthetically. In extraction from all judgments about the noble and the base. The architecture by which the people memorializes itself is a species of pedagogy. Architecture need not memorialized or symbolize anything of course. Or it may symbolize, but not in a memorializing way, let alone in a way that is tied to a nation's history. Nevertheless, there may be nothing wrong with trying to reflect dispassionately on the struggles which the Memorial recalls. That is to put the whole point differently. The mall, the Washington mall, which I'll discuss in a moment of which the Memorial is a part. The mall is political iconography. It's not just the work of art. Moreover, the commemorative works which populated are set in the quiet of carefully landscape nature. Indeed, the mall itself is not a Memorial in a sense in which the Alamo and Gettysburg are memorials, for no blood was actually spilled here in the midst of pitiless battle. The land itself is not sanctified in that sense. Across the Potomac lies the monumental Arlington National Cemetery, which is connected to the mall by Memorial bridge. But no one is actually buried on the mall itself. Mall's open spaces then seem to invite dispassionate reflection but not by any means the suspension of values, even as they praise certain kinds of values. I'm gonna approach the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in a somewhat roundabout way. I'll begin by discussing not it, but some other monuments in the immediate vicinity. There are two reasons for this. First, the geometry of the Memorial clearly connects it with two of the other monuments on the mall. Namely those dedicated to Lincoln and Washington. Its presence on the malls Constitutional Garden, as the area there is called, in itself warns us against trying to consider it, in complete isolation from its context. Secondly, in order to understand just how radically different this Memorial is, it is helpful to understand exactly what it's not. This is effectively done by contrasting it with the other memorials nearby. If we take the White House, the Capitol and the monuments to Washington Lincoln and Jefferson, as our reference points, the area that's defined is more or less elliptical in shape. With a slight distortion of the usual nomenclature, I refer to this area as the mall. The center is marked by the towering Washington Monument. The other four structures, which mark the far reaches of the ellipse, both laterally and vertically, or like planets in orbit around this sun-like obelisk. At the West end of the ellipse is the Lincoln Memorial and opposite at the East end the Capitol. By sending the mall vertically, we have the White House to the North and Tom Jefferson memorial to the South. All of this gives them all a formal geometric unity. But the area derives its substantive unity, not so much from his geometrical properties as from its purpose, namely that of memorializing. It's the place where the nation conserves its past in a particular way, namely by simultaneously recollecting it, or at least some of it, honoring it and practicing it, of course in the White House and Capitol. Matter, is thus put to rhetorical use, so to speak. It is made to educate and to edify the citizens of the present as well as form those of the future. By persuading them to live out the virtues of the past. It is a memory and stone earth and water. The patrimony articulated by measured expanses in the interplay of symmetrically arranged symbols. The word monument, let's recall, derives from the Latin monere, which means not just to remind, but also through admonish, warn, advise, instruct. It follows that the mall says a great deal both in what it portrays and what it omits to portray about how Americans wish to think of themselves. And still another formulation of the mall is a sort of political Mandela. I think I'll show you a few slides here. Should we close the door? Is it not necessary? I'm just gonna give you initially the basic outlines of the mall itself. That of course is the Lincoln Memorial in the background. The picture is taken from right in front of the Washington monument. That's looking from the Lincoln Memorial down to the Washington Monument. The Capitol in the background. This is from the Jefferson across now looking North, you see the Washington monuments just to the left there is the White House. Here you're standing in front of the Capitol looking due West. You see the Washington Monument and then in the far distance is the Lincoln Memorial. That's a beautiful picture. It shows how a bit of a photographer I am. The mall in its present shape, as you just saw it is a fairly recent creation. The ability of a group to think of itself as a nation, depends on there existing a consensus among its citizens, about what it means to be a unified whole. This consensus and original and gradually in our history. The debate about the sense in which the United States are United is coeval of course, with the American founding recall the debate between the Federalists and the anti-federalists. The meaning of E Pluribus Unum, has been highly contested in the history of American political fight. The existence of the mall itself then seems to demonstrate that the Federalist have won much of the battle. The moral must be a dispiriting place for a pure libertarian. The basic outlines of the city were set out in 1791 by L'Enfant, who was selected for this task by Washington. Not surprisingly, the city has a red per region air about it. In L'Enfant design, the Capitol is close to the geographic center of the district of Columbia. The main avenues of the city meet at the Capitol like spokes of a wheel at the hub. The Capitol embodies the basic tenet of democracy, namely that the people ought to govern themselves. That's the symbolic center of the district and so of the nation is the rule of the people. The foundation for this view, at least in the tradition at the heart of the American political theory is the doctrine of individual rights that is freedoms. And so the doctrine that rule over the people is legitimized only by the voluntary consent of individuals. Hence the dome of the Capitol, which I don't have a picture here, is kept by huge statue erected during the civil war appropriately enough, symbolizing freedom and then you just mentioned since. But the center of the district, is in another sense, not the capital, but the monument erected for the country's father and the district's epinem. The Washington Monument is to repeat the center of the mall. That's it too is a symbolic center of Washington city. And so of the nation he did so much to found. It is not fanciful to detect then a certain tension between the center of the mall and one of the planets at the East end of the ellipse. A planet which nevertheless competes with its sun for the title of Center of The District. There is a tension that is between the founder, symbolized by that obelisk, and the system he founded the rule of one man and the rule of the people. The president and the Congress. Either the Washington Monument or the Capitol I add, are visible from every vantage point in the city. No structure in the city is permitted to be taller than the Capitol. However, the tension between these symbols, the Capitol and the Washington monument is lessened by the peculiarity of the Washington Monument itself. Now this of course is a Memorial to a man, but there's no trace of him in his Memorial. He's completely sublimated in the symbol, which represents him. Therefore it's different, in kind, from the mall's other memorials to men. The Washington Memorial is a symbol of a complex of facts. The Lincoln and Jefferson memorials, of individuals. And the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, of an event. The Washington Monument is iconic in that it pictures something. But in representing this meaning, it is not a means for a further symbol. By contrast, the Lincoln and Jefferson Memorials are, as it were, houses for the statues which reside within. And to that extent are means to a further end. The symbolism they possess independently of their function as beautiful houses, so to speak, is limited. They are not in themselves icons or representative. No statue resides in the obelisk, obviously. Hence the connection between it and Washington is not especially obvious. The obelisk represents, first of all, array of the sun. And the sun god is the source of life, warmth and light. The obelisk is traditionally a heliocentric monument, as a ray from the sun at both reaches upwards to the sun and connects the sun with the earth. Washington, therefore, symbolically is the enlightened earth, the transmitter of life to man a brilliant beam in an otherwise dark world. As one looks at the monument, the eye is naturally drawn upward towards the bright divine orb of which the divine man is apart. The obelisk connotes immortality, which is an imitation of the externality of the heavens. You're drawn upwards to the heavens as you look at it. Of course, obelisks are originally symbols of that civilization reputed to be most ancient, namely, that of Egypt. The founder of the new world is as tied to the very origins of political life, a seeming paradox, which has repeated elsewhere on the mall. The American revolution is conceived of here as it turned backwards, as well as it turned forwards. A return to the origins as well as to the new. The American founders then are not meant to be radical innovators. That's one of the messages of that monument, I think. The origins in the case of Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln Memorials are, I know further more pagan, say pagan monument. Further more, the Washington monument has a characteristic, which none of the others on the mall possesses. It looks exactly the same from all angles. That's one angle. And there's a vastly different one. In other words, that's actually from the opposite side, it's identical from all sides. In that sense, you see it's indifferent to the perspective of the beholder. I like the light itself, which it represents. This indifference is emphasized by the fact that there is no writing on the sides of the obelisk, which is unusual, I know of only one small obelisk in Rome, which has no writing on it, but there may be others. And therefore, since there's no writing on the sides of it, there's no sequence in which you must read it, as it were, or looking at it. The Washington Monument can be seen in its entirety all at once, from any side, as it were. Lincoln and Jefferson by contrast are surrounded by their own words and their memorials have a front and back. Correspondingly the Washington monument does not carve out a space particular to itself. The space into which the beholder can be drawn and which disconnection them from the surroundings. It is not an absorbing monument, in the way the Vietnam Veterans Memorial is. This helps to explain why one can look at it and refer to this monument, but not, I think, sit and contemplate it. Let alone celebrate or demonstrate at its base. The selection of the design of the Washington Memorial was highly debated for some time. And the question Statue of Washington was authorized by Congress in 1783 for the site near this present one, but it was not completed. The obelisk was not begun until 1848 after years of debates and delays. After all, just how should the nation's founder and first president be remembered? The answer almost amounts to a philosophical position. And if you look at the history of portraits of Washington, you see this very clearly the shifting perspective on him. There is in fact, a Statue of Washington now in the Capitol. In which Washington is portrayed bare chested in a toga and sandals. An almost embarrassing rendition of Washington's apotheosis in the manner of Roman Emperors. It's one of those statutes that nobody wants it's tucked away. It was in Smithsonian for a while and I think now it's on one of the halls of the Capitol. But no one likes to mention it, it was very embarrassing to us rendition of the Emperor-American god-man. Construction of the obelisk stopped in 1854 and a half completed stump of an obelisk sat there for lonely until congress appropriated funds for its completion in 1876. The original design of the monument called for a fantastically ornate base. And this is, well, this is a sign outside the monument. The design on the left was the original design. And in the subsequent completion of the memorial, the other designs were offered, you see them to the right there, there's five or so just signs there. The 1879 redesign, which is the one on the furthest to the right called for an elaborate exterior to the point that the monument would not have been recognizable as an obelisk at all. Lack of funds, happily, prevented anything more than the bare obelisk from being erected. The simplicity of the monument is emphasized by the absence incidentally, of any vegetation around it. It rises directly from the barely covered earth. The intention was always more over to memorialize Washington and the way that would make the city named after him resembled the great capitals of Europe. No great city is complete, as we know, without its obelisk. A fact which the treasures conveyed to Paris by Napoleon's looting of Egypt serve to remind us. The Washington monument is also expresses the belief that America is the equal in its greatness, to the old European nations. The other Memorial to which the Vietnam Veterans Memorial points, is dedicated to Lincoln. The architecture of this monument is, except for the flat roof, straightforwardly Greek. On Greek temples, the roofs were gabled. As already intimated, the monument is in good part, a home for the statue that dwells within. The meaningless conveyed, follows the classical pattern of a hero whose deeds have won him immortality and divinization. It is singularly appropriate that the inscription behind Lincoln statute reads \"In this temple is in the hearts of the people for whom you save the union. The memory of Abraham Lincoln is enshrined forever.\" Like a Faena in the path on the Acropolis Lincoln, the savior and healer lives in his temple, a god of waiting for offerings. The two urns outside the temple, are meant, so far as I've been able to determine, to symbolize the eternal flames, which in turn show that the god is home when the flame is there. In order to reach the icon of Lincoln, one must ascend a considerable number of steps as is appropriate, when one approaches the hero god. See, you must go upwards. The Jefferson Memorial too, sits at the top of a series of steps. To get to the heart of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial by contrast, you must go down, not up. The columns of the Lincoln Memorial are tilted slightly inward. The fact which enhances one's impressions of the building's monumental height. Inside Lincoln is seated. You're going up the steps. I'm sorry, there's a pigeon on his head who happen to the land as I took this pi- I don't think that's appropriate to the hero god. I'm sure he would object if you knew about it, but I was out a film. Well, Lincoln is seated there, it seems to me almost weirdly like Zeus high on his throne, looking down on his relatively puny visitor. However, the visitor side is drawn up no higher than the level Lincoln occupies. Unless it'd be to read the inscription, which is slightly above and behind him. In a Gothic cathedral, by contrast, the upward emphasis continues almost as far as the eye can focus. It's not just the fact that the monuments to Lincoln and Jefferson contained graven images of hero gods, which makes their design pagan. The fact that Lincoln's mortal life was ended by assassination, is evident in the era of dignified mourning conveyed even by the choice of vegetation, which surrounds the temple. Cypresses are by tradition funeral trees. The interior of the monument is open only from one side, hence there was a certain somber darkness inside. The adversity in difficult times faced by Lincoln are evident not only from the quotations on the wall, inside his temple, the Gettysburg address in the second inaugural, but from Lincoln's face. It is the face of adjust and compassionate judge who has seen much bitterness. A face hardened by war and difficult choices. And in particular a war between brothers. The story which is always full of the greatest hate. Lincoln's face as the etched with the lessons taught by destructive war. It is a phase quite unlike that of Jefferson Statute. Lincoln's temple is this a monument to national unity achieved by the martyrdom of Lincoln himself. The overtones of Christ dying for the sins of man are unavoidable. Indeed the principles praised by Lincoln above all the principle of universal equality is in fact not Greek at all, but Christian. The Lincoln Memorial precisely because of a somberness, emphasis on sacrifice and particularly on the healing of disillusion, is radically different from the monuments on the mall to the two founders of the nation. Namely Washington and Jefferson. Washington and Jefferson are not healers, so much as life givers symbolically. By the time of Lincoln, the age of the founders is over the optimism has been severely tested by the worst sort of internal conflict. Constantly reinstitution of the founding has become necessary. The Washington and Jefferson Monuments represent the opening pages of our history. The Lincoln perhaps, a middle chapter without being too pessimistic. And the Vietnam Veterans Memorial graphically represents the very recent chapter of our deeds in a way that points indeed sights, as it were, the two earlier chapters just mentioned. The great moral message of the Lincoln Memorial, which is subdued, if not lacking from the Washington and Jefferson monuments makes it the natural place for people to proclaim and demonstrate their views. To be precise, it is not the interior of the monument, which is suitable for the gathering of the people. Again, because it's a Greek temple in which the inside belongs to the god, as I were, not the people. In mark a difference from the Gothic cathedral. The place for demonstrating belongs on the exterior on the steps, I need hardly remind you of the famous events that have occurred there. Before passing onto the Jefferson Memorial, I note that Memorial Bridge extends to the Lincoln Memorial South across the Potomac to General Lee's house. It is that symbolic of Lincoln's effort to save the union by reuniting North and South. That Lincoln and not Lee memorialized, on the mall, shows which one of them prevailed in the conflict. Incidentally there're 25 statues to union officers in the district of Columbia and only two of Confederate officers. That Lincoln should, as it were, build a bridge to his former enemy shows his malice toward none and charity for all. Just in the distance down the left you see up on the hill is Lee's house. The Jefferson Memorial, I'm sorry for the exposure again, is the most delicate of Memorial on the mall. It's graceful architecture speaks not of war, but a reason, not of mourning but of life. The music or the memorials proportions is pleasing to the eye and the mind. The design is basically Roman. The dome resembles that of the Roman Pantheon, the building Jefferson admired very much. The dome of the Pantheon symbolized the vault of the heavens. And at one point statues of the gods and of the deified Julius Caesar stood inside the Pantheon. Jefferson now takes their place in the new world Pantheon in which the gods are the rights of man, reason freedom of the individual. The construction is circular, like the so-called round temple by the typer in Rome, which is a temple usually thought to be dedicated to Vesta, the goddess of the hearth. The contributions, which Jefferson wished to have written on his epitaph were the authorship of the declaration, the founding of the university of Virginia and the Statute of Virginia For Religious Freedom. Jefferson didn't think his two terms as president merited mentioning. The statue of Jefferson, holds the scroll on which the declaration has written. The Jefferson Memorial, is clearly a hero called monument. But the demi-god within is a culture or intellectual hero rather than the military or executive hero. Jefferson did not serve in the field of battle or command troops in a war as Washington and Lincoln did. The Memorial for Jefferson has something in common with one of the memorials in Washington to Kennedy. Namely the Kennedy Center, which is the city's cultural center. The statue of Jefferson. And this is I'm afraid yet another poor picture. The statue of course is standing, unlike Lincoln, he has not been tired by the trials of civil war. The eyes look straight ahead, unlike those of Lincoln and with confidence, one foot is slightly forward. The general impression given is that a general aggressiveness. Propulsive but controlled action forward. The dignity of civic virtue and intelligence, in short, the dignity of man is distinguished from the beasts, are clearly evident. Man can stand on his own two feet guided by principles, self-evident to reason and supported by the inherent orderliness of the natural world. Jefferson and I'm afraid you can't see it from this picture, wears the sort of Mona Lisa-ish smile, if I may invent a new word. And not the sort of thing as sunlight god or martyred savior would wear, but still not a merely human smile either. The light penetrates inside the Memorial from all sides and obvious contrast with the Lincoln Memorial. The rays of the sun symbolized by the obelisk are permitted to be everywhere. And Jefferson is open to the outside world and stays in touch with it. And this is very much in like, for example, the inside of the cathedral, in which even the light is altered by stained glass windows, and which invites us to forget the outside world, so it's to better remember the incorporeal spirit within. The Jefferson Memorial, that is, is not a temple. The Memorial, and nevertheless has a front and back as does the Lincoln Memorial, neither is indifferent to perspective in the way the Washington Monument is. At Jefferson's feet, there are the tops of two cons shown here, one decorated with corn, the symbol of the new world, and the other way that traditional design of Corinthian columns. By an unintentional irony of history, the vegetation outside, consists of the famous cherry trees. Beautiful symbols of spring rebirth, natural order. I say it's an irony because they were given to the people of United States by the people of Tokyo in 1922 and the monument was finished in 1943, as we were bombing Tokyo around that time. This Memorial is not a shrine, in the sense that the Lincoln Memorial is and does not convey a clear moral principle the way Lincoln's does. It is inspiring but not moving, in the way that Lincoln's Memorial is. It seems to recall abstract principles and arguments rather than bitter deeds or exhausting foundings. It is perhaps for this reason, that the Vietnam Veterans Memorial does not point to it. It is as though the Vietnam Veterans Memorial asks whether that difficult war lives up to the Lincoln and Washington symbols. Whether that war is true to Lincoln's justice and healing and to Washington's founding intentions, struggles against foreign tyrants and military genius. Rather than whether that war is true to Jefferson's thoughts about the freedom of religion and higher education. Now with a basic symbolism of the mall in mind, we can prepare ourselves further for the Veterans Memorial, by looking very briefly at several war memorials, which are vastly unlike it, any immediate area. The most obviously different among these is the so-called IWO Jima Memorial, which was dedicated in 1954. And the photography really is wonderful, I know. We may think of this as a classic war Memorial. The soldiers strain every muscle towards one end only namely, the raising of the flag. The monuments shouts this imperative honor your country, act as nobly as these men have. The monument depicts a particular event, which occurred in 1945 but it is dedicated as the nearby inscription States to the Marine dead of all wars and their comrades of other services who fell fighting besides them. Vietnam two, is listed there on the bottom you see. Vietnam two is listed on the monument side. The focus is not so much on individuals, but on one branch of the service. Another dis-analogy with the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. I note that the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, unlike this and another Memorial, which I'll mention in a moment, is explicitly dedicated, not just to those who died, but to all those who fought. The symbolism of the Marine Corps War Memorial is not abstract, as is that of the Washington Memorial. It's iconography as is obvious, is literal, as well as unambiguous and immediately intelligible. You just look at this Memorial and you understand it right away. In this respects, in all of these respects, it is very much unlike the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. The Memorial to these seabees, which is just across the Memorial Bridge on the appropriately named Avenue Of The Heroes, proceeds along the same lines as the previous one, the IWO Jima. The seabees are builders and rebuilders rather than destroyers. As is evident from the panels in the wall behind the statues, which depict various construction going on. There was there for a kind of giving warmth which this memorial conveys. The Seabee and the boy there, who is a clearly foreign, almost seemed engaged in the gentle dance. The contrast between the boys vulnerability and the soldier's tremendous strength serves to heighten the goodness to which the soldiers great power has been turned. The Seabee's uncovered chest, falls a pattern of what is called in the literature, heroic nudity. Like the IWO Jima monument, this monument is dedicated to those who fought in a particular branch of the service. And that sense both of these monuments are generic. Across the street from this memorial is another curiously called the Hiker. To commemorate our cause in the Spanish-American war. You recall that we liberated the Philippines, Cuba and several other places. The no nonsense woodsmen turned soldier seems almost quaint to us. But the message is nevertheless clear. A bronze plaque, you see, it's on the cross there on the front. The bronze plaque there on the pedestal depicts a woman in supplicants pose before to American servicemen. She obviously represents the countries just liberated by them. American service men, or men together are the force of good. The memorial to Ulysses S Grant dedicated in 1922 is far more ambiguous in its meaning. And in this respect that bears a closer resemblance to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's an anti-war monument, but it certainly is neither a glorification of war nor heroic in any way. Grant looks distinctly ghost-like on top of his horse. The horse itself is not in heroic pose. The tail is between its legs, which indicates is the wind is coming from behind and so that it is stationary and not attacking. Grant is watching the battle that is plainly heard by the horse a battle which Grant's side may be winning. But there was no emotion on his face. Glory, the statute seems to say, is evanescent. Here again then, the accent is not on glory. The sculptor of this monument went to great extremes to ensure a complete realism and in this you succeeded. There are two groups of statutes on the right and on the left of the questions statue of Grant. This one is the one on the right. The tremendous tension and effort of the forward movement of the human figures, says more about them as men than about the virtues of their cause. In fact, one of them, Here we have, the attack. One of them, is about to be trampled to death by his comrades. Only one of whom notices the imminent tragedy and tries to pull his horse back. To Grant's left- There's the poor fellow is about to be trampled. This is the statuary to left is another group of statutes, this time artilleryman pulling a case on forward through deep mud. It is hard to say whether they were attacking or retreating. The emphasis is just on the severe strain, terrific strain of war. The Grant Memorial as a whole does not convey a moral lesson. And in this resembles the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. One thing's first of all, of the death and dying suffered in war. Perhaps this characteristic of the Grant Memorial is doing prior to the fact that it is a civil war, which it portrays. In a fight against one's brothers, it is more difficult to feel without ambiguity, that when it's engaged in a battle between good and evil. The battle in which there can be a clear cut winner and loser. I note that this is the only memorial on the mall, which explicitly shows battle scenes. On the whole the Washington mall's very and war like. The Second Division Memorial, glorifies a division of the army, but in a peculiarly symbolic way. The whole syntax of heroic images is compressed into a flaming sword of justice, held by hand severed from his body. This is an architectural example of what's called sineddoche, normally referred to in the art of rhetoric as a figure of speech in which the part is named but the whole is understood or vice versa. The flaming sword in the sky stands for divine justice. In the abstractness of this memorial, that is the abstractness of this Memorial. Which distinguishes it from those we've already examined and which ties it to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. So we've gone from the concrete, as it were, to the more abstract as we move around the mall. I added the names of various places of the division or where the division has fought or inscribed on the walls behind this sword. The Memorial is dedicated to our dead as in the case of the IWO Jima Memorial. Well we're finally prepared to consider the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. And most of the other memorials in the mall, or either classical and design or have classical antecedents. Yes, this one has a biblical antecedent. So far as I know, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial has no such antecedents and is certainly is free of the slightest tinge of classicism. Unlike all the other memorials discussed so far, this one is invisible from a distance. Excuse me. That, is one I threw in at the last minute, that is Einstein. Who's a few feet away from the Vietnam Veterans Memorial across the street. I decided to fill that in at the last minute because it's so unlike everything else. It's the kind of statute you can play on. You see the children's sitting on his lap. You'll see how utterly and completely unlike that is the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in a moment. That's a friendly statue. Now this, believe it or not, is the Vietnam Veterans Memorial as you approach it from the North. In other words, you can't see it. It's invisible. As you approach it from this angle, you are not aware that there's a Memorial there until you're two or three feet away from it. When you come to the memorial from the North and there you are, two or three feet away from it, you start to realize there's something over there. The first thing you see, as you come in from the North is a stand made by Vietnam Veterans. In which your help for the search for the MIAs is solicited. Another such stand exists as you exit the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, going towards the South, towards the Lincoln Monument. I mentioned this, because it points to a fact which is not physically part of the architecture of the Memorial, but which has nevertheless revealing of it. Namely that it is a living monument, in a way that is not true of the others. You cannot visit this memorial without coming across veterans. And they are generally not just sitting chatting they were involved usually very emotionally and publicly involved, in the memorial. I have seen many men stand and weep at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. The designer of the memorial, did in fact want it to serve in as occasion for catharsis. And in this, she certainly succeeded. One can sit and have lunch at the Jefferson Memorial, fly a kite at the Washington Memorial, as people often do, you can smile at the gentleness of the Seabees' Memorial, children can play on the Statue Of Einstein, but you cannot treat the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, with that sort of informality or familiarity. You must then, come upon the Vietnam Veterans Memorial suddenly. However, once there, you're led into a gently. You see a few names on your right, whose order is initially not clear. Then more names and then, many more names. There are no steps at this memorial, one walks down an inclined to its heart, which is precisely where the incline is reversed and climbs up again. The center of the V. The slowness of one's exposure to the memorial is merciful. For that way, once initially surprise turned slowly rather than all at once to shock as one realizes that one is looking at the names of 58,000 or nearly 58,000 soldiers who died or who are missing in action. Since one he walks down into the embrace of the memorial, when is engulfed by it, even though the open sky is always overhead and a very large wide expansive open space faces the monument. You do not have the experience of descending into a tomb or a grave. You are not closed in, not even in the way that you are in the Lincoln Memorial, when you enter into it. The suddenness of one's entry, into the memorial space, the demands that one gives one's complete attention to it, even while remaining in a completely natural setting, without a roof over your head. Impossibility of avoiding it, once you're there, all of these effects would be lost if the memorials stood on high ground in plain view from a distance. The Memorial is fantastically simple in one sense. And in this as well as in the fact that it is not a means to a further symbol. This is the shot from the South. You see, even as you come from the South, initially, you're not quite sure what you're looking at. You have to get quite close before you realize that it's a monument. As I said, it's very simple, in one sense, and in this as well as in the fact that it is not a means to a further symbol as the Lincoln and Jefferson memorials are since they're, as I said, houses in which another symbol exists. In this it resembles the obelisk to which it points. Like that obelisk it's not really beautiful, in the way that the Jefferson Memorial is. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial fundamentally consists of two walls as you know. The polished black granite, which made it 125 degree angle and which taper off at each end and point like arrows to the Washington and Jefferson, excuse me, Washington and Lincoln Monuments. The angle is not then any old angle. The monument is utterly symmetrical. It's two halves are considered an abstraction from the directions they point identical. Except in the names inscribed and the dates. The wall supports nothing, it is not supported by any other structure. There is no internal tension in the design that I can detect. Since the walls back as against the earth, the memorial is not at all indifferent to the position of the beholder. And in that sense, it's completely unlike the Washington Monument. Now, this is standing at the top, looking West, points directly at the monument as you can see. This is also pointing to the monument, but now your closer in front of the wall. Here looking in the other direction from the top towards the Lincoln. And here we are down by the wall, also looking up, towards the Lincoln Memorial. The logical or perhaps I should say chronological beginning of the monument is not either of the two tips in which you must enter into the monument space, but the point of which the two walls intersect, which is just to your right, in this photo. That's, as one starts at the geographic beginning of the memorial, which has to be one of the two tips given the way the access is constructed now. You were actually starting part way through the list of names. The rows of names start on the top of the right-hand wall and continue panel by panel to eastern tip of that wall, the tip that points towards the Washington monument. The sequence resumes that the Western tip, which points to the Lincoln Memorial and terminates at the bottom of the left-hand wall. Thus the list both ends and begins at the center of the monument. When one is read halfway through the list, all the way to the Western tip, excuse me, the Eastern tip. One's eyes are naturally drawn to the Washington Monument. If one were to continue reading the names in proper sequence, one would be forced to turn around and walk to the other end of the Memorial and so to see the Lincoln Memorial, as you do it here. That is your reading of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, is interrupted halfway through by your vision of the two other symbols. The monument does invites one to pause halfway through to consider the significance of the names in the light of our memories of Washington and Lincoln. The fact that the list of names both ends and begins at the center of the monument there, suggest that the monument is both open and closed. 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I think you're right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813#t=1754.17,1755.003"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813/transcript/22887/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The, I think the V is a function that uh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813#t=1755.003,1756.053"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813/transcript/22887/annotation/631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"partially a function of the fact that she 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That's a good point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813#t=1807.128,1810.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813/transcript/22887/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, of course, you can walk up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813#t=1810.11,1811.804"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813/transcript/22887/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the monument and look over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813#t=1811.804,1813.304"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813/transcript/22887/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. But it's one of those monuments,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813#t=1814.89,1817.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813/transcript/22887/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I hadn't thought of this before,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813#t=1817.29,1818.669"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813/transcript/22887/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"actually you can see it from three 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And the other at the bottom of the left-hand one after the date, 1975 you see there, in which the last American was killed. The first of these inscriptions reads; In honor of the men and women of the armed forces of the United States who served in the Vietnam war. The names of those who gave their lives and of those who remain missing are inscribed in the order they were taken from us. The second reads It's at the bottom in the middle there; Our nation honors the courage, sacrifice, and devotion to duty and country of its Vietnam veterans. This Memorial was built with private contributions from the American people, November 11th, 1982. Now I've already noted that the other war memorials we've looked at honor those who died not all those who fought. This point is emphasized even by the monuments title. This is a Vietnam Veterans, not Vietnam war Memorial, that this Memorial honors everyone who fought there without qualification, suggest perhaps that they had not previously been honored by the American people. This suggestion is in fact true that the Memorial is a source of pride to Vietnam Vets in general, helps to explain what it is, as it said above, a living Memorial. It's clear that the vets view is their Memorial a way of proclaiming and redeeming the honor of their service to the country. It's as though furthermore, just having fought in a war deserves praise as though doing so was above the call of duty. Perhaps the Wars eventual unpopularity, along with the ambiguity of its purposes and of the nation's commitment, to fulfilling its stated aims gives way to this suggestion. Now it should be obvious by now that there's nothing heroic about this Memorial. It suggests honor without glory. The Memorial is not inspiring in the way that the usual memorials are. The focus is throughout on individuals not on the flag, and no flag was included in the original design. Or on the sort of divine justice or on the good deeds rendered by those we died to protect or on anything else or the sort. Even the appearance of a mechanical and impersonal order is avoided. Such an order would have arisen if the names were alphabetized or divided into categories according to the branches of the arms forces, as is the case in the second division, Seabees and Marine memorials. The chronology of war is marked by the death of individuals, and the visitor searching for particular name is forced to read a number of other names, so paying attention once again to individuals. It is true that the monument speaks, first of all, of loss and pain, as the memorials architect pointed out, it is physically a gash in the earth, a scar only partially healed by the trees and the grass and the polish. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial is not a comforting memorial is perhaps because of this, rather than in spite of it that it possesses the cathartic capacity I'll discuss in a second. Now it's usually the case that names of individuals who die in a war are listed on a monument in their hometown. The Vietnam veterans Memorial makes the loss of these individuals a matter of national concern. This has been one of the main causes for the controversy over the monuments. Some persons insisted that the cost for wishes individuals died, be praised. And as a result of their fuse, a flagpole and a group of three realistic statues of soldiers, two of them whom were white, and one of whom is black are being added in the area between the Memorial and the Lincoln monument. That's where it's going to be. You're linking- the Lincoln is on your, is behind you. You're looking towards the monument, the Vietnam Veterans Monument. This addition here will not disturb one's contemplation of the Memorial itself, but will function almost as an entrance device to those approaching the Memorial from the West. The soldiers will seem, I think, to have just emerged from the trees and to be contemplating the wall as well as the names inscribed on it. The look on their faces, as is clear, if you've seen the model of the statues is not heroic, in this respect you're reminded of the statuary at the Grant Memorial. By emphasizing the sacrifice with so many individuals have made, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial surely asks us to think about whether the sacrifice was worthwhile and whether it should be made again. The Memorial in other words is fundamentally interrogative. It does not take a position as to the answers. The questions which the Memorial implies are these: Did these individuals die in vain? Was their death in keeping with our nation's best traditions, as symbolized by the nearby memorials? For what and when should Americans die in war? That the person contemplating the monument is implicated in these questions is also emphasized by another crucial aspect of the Memorial namely that the polished black granite functions as a mirror. In looking at the names one cannot help but to see oneself behind them looking at them as it were. On a bright day one also sees the reflections of the Washington or Lincoln memorials along with one's own. That is the reflection of the Washington. That was a reflection of the Lincoln Memorial. The dead and the living thus meet. And the living are forced to ask whether those names should be on the wall, whether others should die in similar causes. And you're forced to ask where you were then and what role you played in the war. The invitation to contemplate the Vietnam war and the whole issue of America's involvement in similar Wars, is accented in another also, namely by the setting of the monument directly in nature undisturbed by the turbulence and constant fermentation of human affairs. Since that's the last of my slides, perhaps we can turn the light on. I'll just read the last couple of pages here. This is very dramatic. There we are. Thank you. As I said the invitation to contemplate the Vietnam war and the whole issue of America's involvement in similar Wars is also accented in another way namely the setting of the monument directly in nature undisturbed by the turbulence and constant fermentation of human affairs. The landscape grounds in front of the Memorial function almost like the bowl of a theater in which one is to sit and observe. The Memorial is thus simultaneously an extraordinarily moving monument, and the monument which demands the detachment from one's emotions necessary for clear thought. The Memorial presents us with the tremendous human cost of the Vietnam war. And of course it only lists our dead, not theirs. And on that basis asks us to think about whether the cost ought to be paid. Words alone are cheap, it seems to say, that can lead to costly consequences. The monument performs the valuable service of reminding us of that maximum. The interrogative character of the Memorial requires that it not commit itself overtly to an answer to these questions, hence the relatively apolitical character of the monument and its effort to separate war and politics. The nonpolitical character was evident even in the dedication of the Memorial an event from which politicians were immersively absent except for Senator Warner from Virginia who was warmly welcomed. It was a dedication organized and run by the vets themselves. The healing value of the dedication and the Memorial would have been compromised, I think, if either had become an official government event. The presence of president Reagan, for example, would have undoubtedly stirred up bitter feelings for and against the war and served as an occasion for the expression of a good deal of anger, which may feel towards the government for its conduct of the war. I should mention there was a demonstration in the background by black veterans who were angry about the treatment they received since they've come back. I mentioned all of this because it reminds us of the main purpose of the Memorial namely its therapeutic purpose. The purpose is not explicitly called for in the design competition, but it is implied by one of the rules of the competition to the effect that the design make no political statement. It is generally understood that what was needed was a monument that would heal the vets as well as the rest of us, rather than exacerbate the old wounds and reignite old passions. The neutrality of the monument's architecture must be understood in the light of that purpose. And that purpose cannot be understood in abstraction from the severe conflicts of the times we remember all too well. In a way that is not true of the two world Wars, but it's partially true of the Civil War. The Vietnam war split the American people into warring factions united only by their hate for each other. Yet neutrality is not the state of health to which the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, it's therapy, is intended to ultimately produce. It's not meant to make you feel neither this way nor that. For the Vietnam veterans that state it is at the very least the sense of wholeness made possible by a reaffirmation of the values for which our nation stands. That is the monuments neutrality is meant to lead, at least for the veterans, to the proclamation of the honor of their service in Vietnam. And so our rejection of the suspicion that they did something shameful by answering their country's call. As the inscription on the Memorial states; With this monument the country honors the courage, sacrifice, and devotion to duty and country of it's Vietnam veterans. With this monument, the veterans can reaffirm their pride in having served their country, and so their pride in being American. Here they can reconcile their doubts about the conduct of the war and even its purposes with their belief that their service was, after all, honorable. Non-veterans can retain the same doubts but also affirm the veterans' sacrifice. And this is precisely what occurred at the dedication. The day that was genuinely and openly patriotic, and in which many veterans expressed their love of the United States. None of this expression of patriotism would have been possible if the monument had been explicitly heroic like the one to the Seabees or the Iwo Jima one, or had taken a side in the arguments about the war. Thus the monument has in fact accomplished the goal, which those who have objected to it also praise, namely the goal of rekindling love of country and its ideals, as well as reconciliation with one's fellow citizens. Now I realize that this is not the same thing as explicitly endorsing the Vietnam war itself, but it's not far from endorsing the sentiments which led many Vietnam veterans to fight the enemy in that war. And this accomplishment of the Memorial has been completely missed I think by most of its critics. The emotions this Memorial evokes, invokes do admittedly go beyond this. For the patriotism expressed during its dedication was informed by the willingness to question the decisions of politicians of the day about where and when Americans should die for their country. And this is not, I dare say, altogether bad. If the Memorial momentarily separates war and politics it is in order to give us a secure foundation for understanding both. The sentiments of those who attended and addressed the memorial's dedication were crystal clear. America is worth dying for. But she must not fight a war when there was no popular consensus for doing so. And she must not fight without the intention to win decisively. Correspondingly she must not fight under conditions where it is impossible to win. But the overwhelming sentiment felt at the Memorial dedication was as I've said, patriotic. And in that way, therapeutic, even as fear of entangling foreign alliances were expressed, most everyone felt that America is still like a ray of the sun in a somber world. In this way, the ceremony in the Memorial once again serve the cause of union. Complete strangers embrace each other, and like many others there, I found myself saying \"welcome home\" to veterans as though they had not been there back all the while. I'll never forget the sight of Vietnam veterans who though looking tired in their tattered combat fatigues for claimed by their very dress that they were proud to have accepted the call to their country. One vet I remember in particular was dressed partly in combat fatigues and partly in the sort of leather attire favored by motorcycle gangs. A strange combination. His lined face and disheveled hair seemed to speak of countless trials and difficulties he had undergone since returning home. He stood there for some time during the dedication, staring at the ground with one arm raised high holding for all to see a miniature American flag. At the conclusion of the ceremonies he joined in the refrain of God Bless America. These words swept boldly through the chill air expressing the belief that in spite of everything America is still fundamentally good, thank you.\r\n\r\n- [Woman] Would you like any type of question?\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Sure.\r\n\r\n- [Woman] Anyone want to ask a question?\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Good everyone's persuaded.\r\n\r\n- [Man 1] How long did you say that veterans remained a veteran?\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] It was three and a half years, which as I said, it was a very, very short time comparatively. So I mentioned the Washington Memorial, it was years before they decided exactly what to do. And then it only got half finished and sat there for 20, 30 years. Just as sort of half an obelisk. Yeah, this is the nation's founding. So he only had a half an obelisk for many years. And then finally he got his whole obelisk which wasn't even completed cause there wasn't enough money. So that took many years. The others were a bit less controversial, the Jefferson and Lincoln Memorials, but they still took longer. The Grant Memorial took a very long time. Also, as I recall, it was about, I believe it took about somewhere between five and 10 years. By the way the designer of the Grant's Memorial was also someone like that who was young and completely unknown, like the designer of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. And when that person was picked there was an outcry by the established architects, you know where are the, we're the architects, we should be the designers, but they chose this unknown person. That was a long answer to your question. Yes?\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] Just a comment, I just wanted to thank you for creating a presentation of a very complicated subject. selector of the statute of Jefferson.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] For the Jefferson that they various committees of Washington, they simply selected the statue But um, what I really want to say it this and its evidently mentioned too, what you were saying about the directions I lecture on procedure on directional symbolism in Europe and we have here an enormous mural of names and it is oriented, quite unconsciously I'm sure, to counterpoints, with the major points of the north. that area of it without life into the south pointing, in north directions we have to keep going from west to east from the direction of opposites which is west towards the sun and it was quite fascinating to see this very recent modern mural oriented in very much the same way that we have many old programs going back all this those who approach the tutorial generation in war see that in terms of those very basic natural meanings that are a consistent reminder of war.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Thank you, that was a very nice point I hadn't thought about the North-South, but as soon as you mentioned it, of course, you're absolutely right. The tip of the V, as it were, points across the streets to the National Academy of Sciences which is, primed by an inscription in Greek, which took me an hour to figure it out, I'm embarrassed to say, and in the Einstein Memorial which is right in front of it. The symbolism is unconscious, I'm sure you're right. But it is interesting that the Memorial points to the father of the, of bond with what they call him, that in other words, science also plays a large role. It's not something you memorialize as much but it's something that is, as it were, the fringes of our national memory in which informs our conduct of wars as well as peace. Now, the direction, the angle of course was chosen consciously, pointing to the Lincoln and the Washington, that was chosen. But that's an interesting point about the North-South. You found that in other, structures?\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] The north is the one direction that does not provide light, except in the stars. There's a circle of stars that sends you over the north star. And imagery tends to be of inner things, spiritual things, unconscious things, for instance, in a Christian church the old testament will be on the north wall, the new testament on the south wall, and you have virtues and vices, the vices on the north wall the virtues on the south wall, so that um, and the south wall is always where light shines all day, that is daylight, that is the side of growth, that is the side of all things are visible, and north is all things are inner and invisible.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Hm. In Greek mythology the north is also where the, the one called Boreas comes from, which is a cold winter wind circle, and so it's also chilly, where they follow symbolism through. The Washington monument, of course as an obelisk is in different directions in that sense. So it stands there as though over, the indifferent to the, I mean, it's the ray of the sun which is different to the space around it. It just shines. And miraculously. Do you believe that the, I know you're supposed to be asking the questions, but you think that the the North-South dimension, which you just stated, does it help to illuminated some substantive to where the significance of this memorial? For the Vietnam Veterans Memorial?\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] Oh yes, I think it adds very much to what you were saying about the profound ambiguity of this memorial\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Uh huh.\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] Facing north, facing seeing ourselves in those polished walls at the same time. And um, I think that- This war-made monuments to be oriented in this way is extremely sophisticated as well.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Interesting, yes. Of course, some are oriented in ways that don't have a tremendously interesting explanation. For example, the capitol points east. And that's because the designer thought that the business district of the capitol was going to be in the east.\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] But all temples face east, and you look on the dome, as I'll be showing this tomorrow morning, you look up into the dome, Washington is painted on the west side of the dome facing east. And the entire building is oriented toward the east. The symbolism of opposites in the, the mural structure\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Uh huh. What do you make of the fact that Jefferson is looking north?\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] I couldn't say.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] I mean, he's looking across directly to the Washington Memorial and then past that to the White House. And I've been told that as you sit in the White House of the Porter, because they see it very clearly. Beyond that I don't know if there's any further symbolism there. Well, thank you for your comment. That was very, very helpful. Yes?\r\n\r\n- [Man 3] Even though on campus, Kurtis faces west and maybe that's significant that\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Well, yeah, you face a problem in this area which you also face if you studied literary theory, and that's called the problem with implication, which is one of the thorniest in literary theory is the problem of deciding whether the symbolism of a book is legitimately exhausted by the intentions of its author or whether you're permitted to go beyond that in interpreting the book. The current tide is that you are allowed to go beyond that feat. Previous tide, especially in 19th century German scholarship, was that you had to ascertain the intentions of the author first which required enormous historical research. Then you could interpret the written monument, as it were, in terms of those intentions, once you knew what they were. I myself, I have gone, I think significantly beyond what the designer of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial ever thought of. But I would say that it's implied by what she thought.\r\n\r\n- [Man 2] I think it was a philosopher, wrote Plato, voting, poets don't really know what they're doing, and I don't think we ought to be too critical with old scientistic, dramatic ways of doing things because artists are infinitely richer in this, incidentally, than they may even know. And I'm constantly running into exactly that problem in directional symbolism as many of you are always happy to know they are doing it. Demonstrating how this is transcendental to that. Not in all . It's an instinct for the natural world around crisis.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yes, of course Plato also said that the he agreed that the one thing the poets do know about is the human self, the soul, which is important because in a way what they do is they hold up mirrors to us. And architecturally what the mall does, of course, is hold up a recollective mirror. It's a funny kind of mirror in which certain parts of you are picked out. And also it's a pedagogic or edifying mirror in which you're meant to see yourself reflected in an ideal forum. Lincoln, the God, Jefferson, the God in his own temple with his own words around it. That's you, if you're Americans, that's that's you, idealized you. It's a funny mirror. Of course the beauty of this monument is that the- it's literally a mirror. And so you must see yourself when you look at it. And if you have your wits about you, you therefore I have to say, well what's my relationship to all of this.\r\n\r\n- [Man 4] One thing your interpretation suggests, especially this, more modern way, There are always two interpretations going on. There's the artist's interpretation of their subject as they create the monument. Then they know more than they know they know. Your interpretation is also your interpretation, and you couldn't draw that out to something this point, you could start drawing a line between where you think the artist was interpreting going on, At a certain point, summed up, you could say, well that's what she means. And another one you might want to say is he didn't know this but maybe he knew it.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Man 4] You're saying what you know.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man 4] You look in this world too, and you might go beyond what the artist intended, or could've known, into your interpretation of the world\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Mhm.\r\n\r\n- [Man 4] Based on the day. And everybody who wants to be anyone this one is particularly interrogative. But anyone who'd want, to be\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] It's um-\r\n\r\n- [Man 4] Sorry\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Oh. Can I just briefly respond to that. It's strange that the- actually in this particular case, Lin's design, I mean, her intentions, as have been stated in various places, are actually quite exhaustive. I mean, she does seem to have conceived of many of these points, I don't think there are many points that I've added, as it were, it just so happens I think that that's true in this case. But it's interesting to wonder how this monument will be viewed by people 50 years from now, or I suppose there's some of you in the audience who didn't live through the Vietnam War years, think of it. And the response has to change, of course, you're right. By the- according to the individual who's viewing it, and that's not something which the artist can legitimately exclude, and say well that's not valid somehow. It's puzzling when, you know, most people who look at the Washington Monument, I mean, they must be wondering why that's the Washington Monument. Why an obelisk? If people think about, it must seem very strange today. At the time, of course, obelisks were very popular symbols. Jefferson's own grave marker, which he designed himself, was, you know, had an obelisk with a quote in Greek from Anacreon and his, the three achievements, which I listed. A number of the portraits, of Washington, they were made engraved after he died also have obelisks. So it's a very commonly used, and, as far as I've been able to find out, immediately understandable symbol that people in general understood right away. Today, you know, what's the obelisk mean? That doesn't mean our response, however, is somehow wrong. Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man 5] Another aspect, artists normally do the symbolism in their intentions, might be that often the artist is aware of the symbolism involved, but he or she might discover it after the fact.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man 5] It's very difficult to make a list of symbols that you want to include and come up with a form that includes these, you see, rather than in the act, the creating part is done and then, ultimately one sees things in his or her own product that the, uh, wasn't aware it was there before. I think it's very typical for evolving the creation testify to this.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man 5] Awareness after the fact.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Especially because you're writing in stone, as it were, at least often, or in something that's going to outlast you.\r\n\r\n- [Man 5] I'm sure that in the V, the shape V, form of the V, was an intentional act from the beginning. Whether the multiple manifestations of being multiple readings of the conscious from the outside\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man 5] We have the video of the walls being planned in sections, that one isn't aware of unless one knows it, and it's not probably first drawing it comes about.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yes. I think you're right. The, I think the V is a function that uh, partially a function of the fact that she wanted to point to both. Minus would not be a solid wall, but of course it's a very famous symbol of, since church will use it, world war II. And by the way, even then it was immediately misunderstood as you may recall, by the Russians to mean that there was a second front opening up against the Germans, which was not true. So it's a symbol with, from which much has been inferred. I- Yeah?\r\n\r\n- [Man 6] my opinion of course, victory isn't mentioned, but then also last night's lecture mentioned the victims\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] That's true.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yeah. Well, whatever this is, it's a very weak V.\r\n\r\n- [Man 7] Cause it's upside down.\r\n\r\n- [Presenter] Yes. That's a good point. Yeah, of course, you can walk up to the monument and look over. Yeah. But it's one of those monuments, I hadn't thought of this before, actually you can see it from three sides. I mean, you can see it in front of it but you can also climb on top of it. You can go inside the Washington monument but you can't climb on top of it, with impunity. Yeah, I would agree with the comments about implication.\r\n\r\n- [Woman] Thank you very much. I just want to make uh, to reinforce Deborah Kerr is coming, and you're all welcome to come back and join us this evening at 8 o'clock, for Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36662/file/105813#t=0.0,1865.064"}]}]}]}