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Probably a lot of people in the world","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73114/file/158960#t=1120.73,1123.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73114/file/158960/transcript/36753/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would be a good husband for you. You know what? I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73114/file/158960#t=1124.72,1127.06"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73114/file/158960/transcript/36753/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like this and I like that. I like the next thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73114/file/158960#t=1127.06,1129.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73114/file/158960/transcript/36753/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So what should I do? 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And some of the folks that my parents and the father was a very famous chemistry teacher with teachers, decided she would do research, but then decided in the end, which I'll tell you, it wasn't because. Yes, well, they wanted me to do this. They thought they thought this was a good introduction to. So they thought it was going to be just a background in medical school. OK, but, you know, I was reading this book by Oliver Sacks Know Uncle Tungsten and later OK to study chemistry. My father wanted me to study medicine, so I got into medical school and the treatment. But if I could get into Oxford to study chemistry, I would do chemistry. And it's not. So fortunately, I got into. Was my teacher, Mr. Well, you get your master's automatically after. So I just did a page to you and your research interest as an undergraduate is doing this research. So I did my undergraduate research in it for. It was a mixture of spectroscopy. Well, it was about the time the vitamin B 12 story was beginning to come to fruition with learning how to make crystals to collect data. And the crystals came along. And that made it very good for your project. I was with my graduate work and the studies, which is something interesting that we found when we tried to contact women, and I just thought that is some of the women that we've invited to interview have been in crystallography and they've written back and said, well, I'm not leaving chemistry. There's a couple of things in the literature, I think one or the other. The other thing is the curious thing is that women, philosophers, geologists, physicists, mathematicians from the base, it depends how you approach when you could say physics crystals. So that's more geology. What's it like working with a fashion person? She was very friendly, helpful, and she stayed up working in the spectroscopy lab, but we never worked together. So I worked in the same lab. And he was he was a Rhodes Scholar. He went back to Caltech while I finished. He's already hates America. Oh, OK. OK, see you later. I have finished my first book. I was looking for a job. So that's what you did. All right. We were looking for two jobs in one city. This is a.. Nepotism and elimination because I knew so, Linda. So I applied to different rooming house with my husband from Philadelphia. And then I applied to work. I heard a rumor that due to some unfortunate support of this place and the leaving that particular board members was, is that this position was difficult. I read that you had very good childcare. I have very good childcare. I am. It's difficult to park people, so they say, I have one person who said she can give me two days a week. I said, right, she really only works half time for about 10 years. Because I was there, I was there and I was aware that where I could be at school the same time, I was here with quite a few women. This place has a very good reputation. And I think the first lady employed by the. Work out system. My husband worked for a very early schedule, so he left very early in the morning and was usually have five children. His daughter has a few days after graduate work at Princeton, and she came back to think it was the best thing in the world community college that she liked. But she got laid off because she was the. And the interest in Indian democracy, which is credible because she lives in Seattle and is working for the U.S. State Department, has she ever since it was a little different for return to Princeton because they hadn't had in a very long time, a little bit of a feeling. But in fact, she has a lot of very good friends and she got. And my son went to Pennsylvania to engineer a degree in various companies as an engineer, Rick Kelly, he went to work for his work facility, graphics services, and now works for Intel technology. I went to Penn State and studied computer science and then went on to study, but finished, never quite finished. But my husband, while she was interning and he's from Missouri. She lives in Missouri for a long time. But now she's at the end of the scale. She. She does work over half the time she manages the books that she has and the children had a here is a local PTA. She's very active, but that's not what you might call a formal employee. Yes. Yes. It seems like their children will be very, very different, but they always have been. And the youngest always wanted to do things that were different from her older brothers and sisters. When she went to high school, people would say, Oh, I really love you. And she said, I don't like this teacher like my sister. Does that really go with her? And so she wanted to do something different. And she did that when she got to college. I thought she might enjoy computers because I thought she'd probably do some programming at times. Change and the oldest. Well, you also have been a professor at the University of Pennsylvania. And how did that come about? And what is that about? Fairly early. I was just asked if I would like to apply, and I had given some courses and crystallography. So mostly the medical students. And I think it was just this year, I think I was on some graduate group meetings and many of them should have one graduate student go to quite a few doctoral dissertation found with the faculty committee, I think particularly starting in the 70s. Have you participated in anything? No, I haven't. I mean, I have I have a problem, which is just time. I don't have a problem, as you probably noticed. What you have to probably do your budget. Well, I think it's a very good idea. So it's a long way. I mean, to go down to Penn really takes up most of the building that can be done for half a day. But there is a lot more than I do. I go to if I can if I go to the American Chemical Society, you can see I was going to middle and it's very exciting. It was actually was a wonderful life that was nice. And the institute loved me to take the whole life with me. Right. So there was some problem. And then director of the lab crystallography lab, OK, I think I said in reference to the death of. He was in charge of the crystallography actually running the lab. No, I had a two year old so I really wasn't looking to run the king. I would stay on doing research but not running things. And he asked me several times if I was interested in his position because he said anything. But in fact, when he died, he said that the major historical event, two, I was in high school. I knew I knew I wanted to do chemistry and he wanted to do research. I wanted to raise. But not to cause problems with your career, but it's independent in the context of the proper chances. I have a family physician in. I've been working in the same place as my mentor, which I was published when they've written a couple of books about my research, but I also got involved a lot with history. And I think I just was appointed the historian. I produced a book with John McLaughlin. He really help on and that did what you're doing. It got some reminiscences from elderly people who lost a lot of discovering it, just getting it done and writing and hearing Linus Pauling do something that we did was we had a meeting with the parents came and they also had some reminiscences, if not a little bit of the flavor of people and both these folks, not to edit style for sure, even if the construction is a little bit strange, because that's what I was a. Yes. Did you have an incident in that area? And and what were their experiences? I think you see a difference in that country. One of these important women were so that they would have been and she was the first to the American public and she was getting into it earlier than maybe some other things, some articles written about this. I mean, the general article runs along this kind of line. Women are not as good at mathematical sciences. And for. I think it's almost like saying I don't understand the remark I just made because a lot of them are in a very interesting field in the sense that it's wrong to be part of something which is growing and getting to be different. And so you get men and women and there are happy women. I'm often asked how many women? And my answer is really no. But I have been a lot of people who to help me, along with earlier people like Dorothy Height, and they were the people who helped me when they would be people like the old blacks. The one time I think half of the people at the time when there were very few of them now has an affection for women in general, but, you know, gave them a chance and also believed in very leftist views and believe in equality of everybody. So variety of reasons. And there were people who were. The women in your career and you, we need women now. I thought that was all sorted out. The women and I can say, I mean, we do it, it didn't matter that I was a woman. I think. I think the problems for women are in other cultures. You know, you want to go and so they can speak in this country, but we're working on reforms and we're don't to use chemical carcinogens and enzyme reactions that use free radicals for. Because we're kind of winding down. And what do you attribute to? My father was very excited that I was looking out for him. So he was also very anxious very early on. But this is what I really want to do. And what advice would you give for women going today? If that's what you want to do, that's great. And give it a try and you can always you know, if you see things you don't want to go after, the people have to stay in a discipline that maybe the is what we can enjoy. I don't it. And I think that we're very lucky. Those of us who because to. I dictate to your husband. That's what a lot of the women said that they did, and I just have to you can talk about my husband, that he was, of course, supportive because he was also a. None of our children attended, but that didn't bother us because we had to make sure they did. My three children, my son always knew exactly what he wanted to do with the other two. I'm not quite sure I've had the experience. I mean, I knew what I wanted to do. I was just trying to work out how that could be made possible. My son is the same way I have students who come in and say, you know, it's sort of like finding a husband. Probably a lot of people in the world would be a good husband for you. You know what? 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