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Built in mic. Well this... Some recordings you well, this is a- Well I don't know, I guess so. There'll be\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- You are beginning to wonder,\r\n\r\n- this just goes right in here.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- But I wanted to tell you this it can be deceiving... Okay, we're taping now through this little mic and so that if you don't have things set up properly, it's quite possible to be taping through this, but not be getting a good recording to be off mic. I mean, you'd be getting the guy's voice. He's speaking loudly. They're up there, but it's only coming all this distance and it's not a good recording. I've had people be confused about things, or if you've allowed some extra time at the beginning and you find you here and you have got a buzz and can't get rid of it, maybe you can go back over the station, rummage through and get something that works. If you'd been isolated and find out what the problem is. These, let's see this cord. Sometimes it's It's a thinner thing. And I tell you, things can get smashed when you're closing this, a little cord is left in hear pitch, so that's something to watch out about. Enables you to either to doctor up a tape, make it go faster or slower, but there's a notch in the middle where you can feel what they are doing. And the central position is where you want to be on that notch. That means it's a normal Normal situation. And then if it's a useful device in case\r\n\r\n- Thinking and language using beings. Humans have a technical interest in creating knowledge to enable prediction and control of events in the natural environment and a practical interest in communication through which individuals develop mutual. and self-understanding in social participation. There is also an interest in emancipation from false beliefs which deny human autonomy. It is an interest in critical reflection to uncover false beliefs or distorted communication. It is an interest in self-reflection, self-determination and rational action thus it is an emancipatory interest. This argument draws together a model of human interest knowledge and action essential to success in human activity. It allows comparison between three categories of science or three modes of inquiry. And you have a sheet there in front of you, which you might want to use to follow my argument. Figure one, if you like to keep that in front of you. Firstly, empirical analytic inquiry, with its underlying interest in prediction and control, empirical analytic inquiry claims that only this form of knowledge can provide us with truly objective or value free knowledge of the world. Knowledge derived through observation takes the form of causal explanation and is validated through the replication of the conditions of observation and experimentation. Cause of laws are linked into systems through which we grasp how apparently unrelated variables are connected and how they may be manipulated to achieve certain desired outcomes. As cause and explanation is converted to technical rules and instrumental action is implemented. Technical control of the environment is achieved. Empirical analytic inquiry answers questions of cause and effect. It's seeks to determine what it is or to answer questions of how can we achieve X goal. It has been claimed by positivists that rational decisions cannot be made with respect to value judgements. That facts must be distinguished from values. As it must therefore leave unanswered questions of what goals should we seek to achieve. Empirical Analytics Science is oriented toward maintaining the existing social order rather than directing social change where needed. Criticism can be leveled at a positivistic view of knowledge because of certain flawed assumptions. For example, it refuses to acknowledge that rationality can exist in interpretation and communication. Yet this rationality is employed by the community of scientists in determining what counts as knowledge. It claims to be value free if the values of the investigator determine what will be investigated, furthermore, technical interests determine how knowledge will be used. There is a need for reflective understanding of these issues, understanding of empirical science as one category of knowledge and of technical control as one form of action. Understanding the technical rationality is assigned a legitimate but limited place within the comprehensive theory of cognitive interests. Then if I can move on to historical hermeneutic inquiry. The logic of inquired interpretive science differs from that of empirical analytics science because of the different interests structure. While the underlying interest in empirical analytics science is prediction and control, the fundamental interest of historical hermeneutic science lies in communication for consensus and social integration. Hermeneutics provides another way of knowing another view of reality. For example, from the standpoint of empirical analytic inquiry, we see human beings as bodies in motion and explain events and processes in terms of cause and effect. From the standpoint of hermeneutic inquiry, we see human beings as subjects who communicate through speaking and interpreting actions while empirical analytical inquiry generates knowledge through neutral observation in controlled situations of cause and effect. Hermeneutic inquiry develops knowledge through dialogue with others with the past or with different cultures about common concerns of human life. Oriented toward consensus, through promotion of self understanding of individuals and reciprocal understandings between individuals and groups, hermeneutics calls for understanding of the historical context of one's own life and the traditions of different individuals, groups and cultures. The logic of hermeneutics is neither deductive nor inductive, but an informal process through which problematic social norms or the truth of statements maybe called into question to determine whether they can be justified. Consensus may be achieved through rational criticism. While no procedure can guarantee a lasting consensus or reveal truth for all time through discourse, both the truth of statements and the rightness of norms may be established. Insistence upon a constraint free consensus ensures that consensus will express the common interest. Successful communication is dependent upon participants sustaining four types of validity claims, comprehensibility, truth, rightness or correctness and truthfulness or sincerity. As genuine consensus is the ultimate aim, agreement must culminate in reciprocal understanding, shared knowledge, mutual trust and accord. Hermeneutic inquiry thus seeks to answer questions of \"what is morally right to do.\" And in their determination seeks to uncover what is meant in what is said and done. The interpretation of social behavior cannot rely solely upon uncovering the intentions of an individual active. However, for such intentions can be understood only in relation to the language and the rules of conduct within the community, to which the active belongs. By sharing concepts, rules and practices fit into larger structures. Ultimately encompassing the nature and purpose of human life. Hermeneutic inquiry develops more fully the meaning of human action, clearing away misconceptions and social tensions arising from them. Interpretive science promotes social integration. However, not all social tensions arise simply from poor communication. People hold deeply ingrained ideas about themselves, society and the way they live. Sometimes they hold mistaken ideas and beliefs about their own actions or the actions of others, and as a result there is social conflict. Interpretive science makes no provision for critique of the tensions and conflict in social reality. For analysis of contradictions, between belief and practice for critique, which would generate social change. In order to accomplish this type of inquiry, we must understand the characteristics of critical theory. Critical inquiry. The cognitive interest, underlying critical science is emancipation. The category of science rising from this interest is critical in the theory as directed toward analysis of social context, militating against human autonomy. Theory is tested by ascertaining its relevance in promoting enlightenment and action resulting in the elimination of conditions frustrating autonomy. Critical theorists believe that social inquiry must concern itself with more than the interpretation of what people say and do in social, political, economic, and cultural life. This is because conditions existing at a particular time, maybe exploitative and repressive and communication becomes distorted in that there is not mutual understanding and rational agreement. Critical inquiry involves philosophical reflection and critique to uncover the historical sources of distorted communication or ideology and contemporary factors reinforcing its domination. Since there are various definitions of ideology, it may be useful to outline that which is used by critical theorists. The theory of ideology embraced by critical theory, seeks to demonstrate to agents in society, how they are diluted or deceived themselves about this society, their interests, attitudes and beliefs. Ideology in this sense is referred to as false consciousness. goose points out that the various ways in which consciousness can... Points out the various ways in which consciousness can be false. Firstly, in cases where beliefs commonly held cannot be supported by empirical evidence as when some social phenomenon is accepted as a natural phenomenon over which agents have no control, or when it is wrongly believed that the interests of a subgroup represent the interests of a whole group. Secondly, consciousness can be false because of functional properties as when ideology supports or legitimizes unjust social practices, blameworthy social institutions or relations of domination and exploitation. Thirdly, consciousness can be ideologically false as a result of dogmatic adherence to tradition, that is sets of beliefs which are rooted in history, are accepted by people who act on those beliefs, but cannot get give reasons for their acceptance. Through critique of ideology, people begin to understand how and why they define needs and wants as they do, and how such definitions influence their acceptance of social conditions which are oppressive. Critical theory is not a set of laws to be applied to a given problem, nor is it a set of procedures to be followed, to bring about predetermined goals. It is a theory which is continually restructured or reformulated as it is brought to their upon existing social, cultural, economic, political conditions. It is politically oriented in that it seeks to help people to change their present conditions and to bring about a free society. Arising from the problems of everyday life, critical theory seeks to answer such questions as, is this belief or attitude or interests, ideological or repressive? What is the source of this ideology in society? What needs to be changed in society to eliminate the repressive force? The claims of a theory are validated through rational discourse among people involved in the determination of the rightness of norms for action. As in Hermeneutics, participants must recognize four types of validity claims, claims that speech is comprehensible, that pre-suppositions are true so that knowledge may be shared. That the speaker's intentions are true so that others can trust him. And that it is right or appropriate to say what he does so that in a lot of norms and values for speaker and hero can agree. In reaching inter-subjective agreement, there must be recognition of the right of each to participate and equal opportunity to participate in discussion and recognition that the outcome will rest on the force of the better argument. In critical theory, enlightenment and consensus leads to action to overcome frustrating repressive conditions. In summary, each category of science appropriately addresses certain types of questions, providing knowledge logically appropriate for one form of action. For example, questions of technical efficiency in reaching predetermined goals, call for the technically and strategically useful knowledge of interictal analytic inquiry. Questions of interpretation and into subjective understanding demand the knowledge of linguistic and cultural rules and tradition have developed through hermaneutic inquiry. Questions relating to the legitimacy of beliefs and practices employ the knowledge of existing social structure of the nature of ideology and of certain social and political concepts developed through the procedures of critical theory. This leads to the second point of my argument, which is that the application of an inappropriate type of knowledge to direct activity, leads to certain disturbances and crises in the culture, in society and in personality formation. Disturbances in cultural and social reproduction. And you might want to refer to the second of the handouts there. When the methodology and assumptions of empirical science and technology are extended inappropriately to activity in everyday life. Disturbances occur in the transmission and revision of the culture in social integration and in socialization of the individual. These disturbances produce certain detrimental effects for the culture, the society and the individual, which may be interpreted briefly as follows, cultural tradition comprises knowledge, values, attitudes, and meanings, including the meanings and standards of science. When the domination of positive district doctrine leading to the upholding of technical beliefs and values, find its way into cultural tradition, to the detriment of communicative competence and practical moral understanding. The rationality of knowledge is at stake. We develop a biased and dogmatic view of knowledge. For the culture, this results in loss of commonly held meanings as empirical science cannot answer questions of meaning, questions of interpretation of speech and action. For the society, such disturbances in the culture result in withdrawal of legitimation or commonly agreed upon standards or shared sense of worthiness of the political order. Government policy of employment of technical decision making procedures and denial of public debate oriented toward private accumulation of public wealth, while endeavoring to systematically maintain mass loyalty, eventually becomes transparent. To the degree that mass loyalty diminishes, legitimation is withdrawn. For the individual such disturbances in the culture lead to a loss of orientation. As the culture is no longer the source of adequate symbols, conceptualizations and meanings, the individual thrown on his own resources cannot interpret and respond to concrete situations rationally. There is no longer access to reliable structures for inter-subjectivity. Society can be conceptualized if a life world centered on communicative action. Dogmatic adherence to the positivistic view of empirical science also leads to disturbances in social integration or the symbolically structured institutions in which people as speaking and acting subjects are socially related. Social solidarity is at stake. This negative influence on social integration, interfering with transmission of the culture results in lack of collective identity. And example of the fragmentation in culture can be seen in the separation of areas of knowledge in specialization resulting in the isolation of scientists from each other. Disturbance in the domain of social integration, also results in anime or normalizes, for without the possibility of social interaction, leading to inter-subjective agreement, lack of resolution of critical problems leads to disintegration of social norms. Disenchantment resulting from the disintegration of social institutions is a cause of alienation from society on the part of the individual. The reproduction of society is dependent upon the socialization of competent members of society. However, the increasing interdependence of science and technology, and the extension of technical rationality to evermore areas of life creates disturbance and socialization. Human beings developed toward increasing autonomy and responsibility in the dimensions of language, thought and action and an ego development. Ego development is a process through which these dimensions are integrated with effective and motivational development. Individuals acquire these competencies not in isolation, but by growing into the structures of social institutions, thus development takes place in relation to social norms and inter-subjective communication, as well as in relation to external nature. Learning takes place in two major dimensions, political moral insight and empirical analytic knowledge. Adolescence is a particular danger zone in terms of stability and continuity of society, through achievement of certain competencies, including the capacity for formal operational thought. The adolescent begins to question existing values and norms and begins to discard the role identity formed within the family and to construct an identity appropriate to an adult member of society. This transition determines whether and to what extent the new generation undermines or reinforces the existing order. The communicative environment within the family is a major factor in the successful achievement of ego identity. Employment of manipulative strategies at the expense of development of communicative competence, leads not only to a break down of cultural tradition, but also to the development of psychopathologies. Research has established a close link between distorted patterns of interaction within the family and pathological outcomes of the adolescent crisis. Disturbances in the society resulting from distorted communication can bring about withdrawal of motivation. Traditional motivational patterns relating to personal achievement and achievement of collective goals through individuals acting competitively are being eroded as people lose faith in the market's ability to provide for fair distribution of material goods, and when increasing levels of education, bring increasing levels of aspiration, which are denied fulfillment, to a lack of employment opportunity, there is withdrawal of motivation affecting the occupational system. At risk through disturbance and socialization is personal sense of responsibility. The diminishment in personal accountability is reflected in the breakdown of cultural tradition, withdrawal of motivation in society and the development of pathologies. In conclusion, the question which I was asked to address this evening was whether empirical analytic science is equal to the task in the search for new knowledge. I believe that the answer to that question must be that empirical analytics science is necessary, but not sufficient for the task. The domination of empirical analytic inquiry in the search for new knowledge over the last century has had negative consequences on a global scale. In reviewing the work of contemporary theorists, Delma concludes that the crisis about time, which presented a challenge to our capacity for practical moral reasoning have been aggravated by an intellectual myopia, which while insisting on the complete purity of scientific research, ignored the human and social ramifications of the scientific enterprise. Meanwhile, we seem to have lost our aptitude for practical moral reasoning. While on one hand, there is an urgent need for moral standards to direct technological development. On the other, scientific rationality is unable to provide such standards, while the growth of industry destroys the natural environment and technology directed toward military purposes threatens human survival. The knowledge explosion in empirical science is not matched by moral growth and human understanding. While we do have a need for scientific knowledge, which may be applied through technology, there is also a need for practical knowledge to foster communicative competence and growth of moral sensitivity and a need for knowledge derived through philosophical reflection and critique of ideology. Moreover, there is a need to overcome specialization and a narrow mindedness through communication among the empirical, cultural and critical sciences. It is essential that students participation in research or education includes philosophical reflection, promoting critical awareness of the pre-suppositions of the sciences and the implications of those pre-suppositions, for ways of viewing the world and for their relation to practice. There is also a need for informed public opinion. Opinion formed through unrestricted discussion of matters of public interest, which will regulate the direction taken by science based technology. In endeavoring to answer the question assigned to me, another Springs to mind as a topic for further discussion. The search for new knowledge, is the university equal to the task? I trust that you are as impressed as I was with the tight logic and this woman who is visiting us. And she has agreed to receive questions. If you care to pose any.\r\n\r\n- I just want to make one comment. Am a junior of engineering and I have felt certain there are more people We need to be more communicate with others. and not feel like you said Come together in our own little specialized groups.\r\n\r\n- I've been very encouraged since I've been here this week to find that there is a move in that direction in the College of Home Economics. And I think some good things are happening there, and I'm sure that they'll grow to even better things. There is an need as you say, and I think it's time that we addressed that need. I agree with you. I think there is You see any movement, or reflection on relationships\r\n\r\n- I think so... One example is my The Dean has since added more social humanities courses which I think with science that I think we don't need but happy to take this class. Am here to speak tonight. Just the fact that the Dean of college is saying that, we need to have more of this courses outside of engineering science courses We encourage to make sure agree with that logic positive really is not Evaluate weight in terms of promoting appeal or making it grow as it did at one time especially in college dynamic and environment, Is a post positive scenario. In terms of methodology, what would you see them being, the methods that you would have to adapt in order to satisfy both worlds.\r\n\r\n- Well, I would see the need for the type of program that could in some way incorporate and integrate the logic and the knowledge produced in the three categories of science that I've briefly outlined this evening. I'm not trying to pit one against the other. I'm calling for some kind of balance that will overcome that the lopsided approach that we've taken in the past.\r\n\r\n- I agree if, you negate one, you negate the other But we're thrown into the fact that we know how to pursue positive testing, in termS of empirical testing, but how we perceive post or the flip side of that. Public good pursuit in terms of methodology.\r\n\r\n- Are you asking them for details of the methodology of hermeneutic inquiry and the details of the methodology of critical inquiry? Because they do have their own methods for the development of knowledge as does the empirical analytic inquiry.\r\n\r\n- Is there a possibility of Because what I'm getting at is politically, it is very difficult to publish in journals, et cetera, anything that doesn't have analysis of various multiple regression, et cetera, and that's positive. And that you know what we're suggesting is we've got to move beyond that and use that as well as something else. How can you break that political barrier?\r\n\r\n- Well, I suppose there's a strong need for critique of those journal articles or pieces of research that are positivistically orientated. And I would see that as a very important element. And I would think that it would be quite appropriate and probably it's something that's carried out in some of your classes, would I be right? So I would say that the results of inquiry based on the positivistic notion of empirical analytic science could very readily be laid open to critique for the underlying implications of the research, what interests are being promoted by that piece of research? What kinds of questions such as that need to be addressed perhaps.\r\n\r\n- Do you have in front of you who is excellent at dialogue? I think the difficulty we're having is that for most of us, this is mind stretching and quite new. And sometimes you have to have more knowledge You hear how it happened to pose a question. So we invite you to stick around and more informally, dialogue with Dr. Baldwin if you care to. And the other don't wanna cut it short. If in this interlude you thought of other questions. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Thank you . I just made us lay people feel comfortable. This is a new field for me. It's about information that I had just began to read about. But I guess what I'm hearing is, and feeling from what I've read is that there are a lot of things we can't explain. And every day we hear that and read that, That's what they are talking about. We can't put explanations to why people are healing themselves, or why people have the ability to make their cancer disappear or whatever. I've been in child development for six or seven years, I have found it difficult a number of times in situations where it's hard to measure what we do with children. What we do with children is love them and nurture them and those are hard things to measure. And any time that I have a conflict with somebody in a empirical science who says, \"yes, but we can do this and this and this.\" And anytime I have a problem with legislative situations where the licensing, that's all that comes in and says, \"But this is what is legislated, and this is what you must accomplish.\" And when push comes to shove they realize, how do we legislate love? How do we legislate nurturing? And I'm grateful that this semester, especially I've heard a number of times on this campus, people will question the empirical knowledge. Is it enough? I've heard it in child development courses. I've heard it in elementary education courses which makes me happy to hear that also. But I guess I'm not working on a point as much as it is making a statement, is that what we're dealing with? Is that we have things that we can't explain. And the science is the empirical sciences are saying, or have for so many years said, \"we don't know what they are, and since we don't know what they are, we can't deal with them.\"\r\n\r\n- Empirical science refuses to acknowledge that values can be a part of the knowledge base for instance. And I think that when you get into dealing with human beings, you can't ignore the fact that you have to take the values and social norms into account. And I think that you're quite right in what you're saying. There are certain things we have assumed for a long while that empirical analytic science could provide us with with all the answers. But yes, I'm encouraged by what you're saying. We are aware increasingly that there are some things that we need to go to the other sciences to gain answers to.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. It's an interesting example that you raised because how am I supposed to make a distinction between what we call technical and practical knowledge. And we have what you are talking about as practical knowledge and his view is that one of the things that the results of the dominance of positive practical questions are transformed into technical questions, so the reason why people expect you to be able to quantify your thoughts and actions with children is because they're really confusing, practical knowledge with technical knowledge trying to get away from. He maintains that practical knowledge is not a US knowledge, technical knowledge is just a different kind of knowledge, more appropriately than practicing than technical knowledge Dr. Bolden, I would ask i guess... Then what do I do? You know, this is important to me and I feel fortunate because I'm going into a field that is going to recognize this more and more. And I think will be a leader in expanding on this science or developing grader's assignment. So what do I do not only as a student, but as a person who is interested in this deal to make other people aware or to limit from--\r\n\r\n- I would expect that one of the first things you would need to do, if you haven't already started along this line is to study the sciences, to understand that the assumptions upon which they're built, to understand what questions that they can legitimately address, and then enter into dialogue with people in your field about that very question that there are sciences which have not been utilized as they should in the production of human knowledge and that you maybe need to turn toward them to answer certain questions that so far haven't been answered. Personal background on Habermas.\r\n\r\n- Personal background of Habermas. He's a critical theorist, contemporary German philosopher of the Frankfurt School. He's quite an extraordinary scholar in that he draws upon the knowledge that's been built up over the generations and analyzes it and synthesizes it, and reformulates it into theories which he feels they're more rationally justifiable. He's not someone who's arguing from a viewpoint that can't be justified. He's one who, as all scholars must, stands on the shoulders of those who've gone before him. His work is probably only just becoming widely used. I don't know the reason for that, except that it probably is that the translations of it have only been available I think since the 1970s, the early part of the 1970s. He's difficult to read. And the interpretation from at least the German language tends to be fairly laborious, and so the translate, the people who translate have not only that difficulty, but also the difficulty that a lot of Habermas work deals with highly abstract concepts, which are not very easily explained. So if you want to read Habermas, you have to be prepared to dig and be very patient and try to go with him and do and understand with him. But he was a very great scholar. I think that's recognized. His social theory of knowledge certainly has gained a lot of support, but also they've been living in criticisms as well. And one of the good things I think about Habermas is that he enters into dialogue with his critics and he's prepared to admit, it's interesting to read some of his work, some of his later work and find that he's admitting that he's really thought some of his earlier theories through more fully, and now he doesn't believe that in quite that way, and he explains how his own theoretical knowledge is growing and developing. And I think that's the mark of a scholar, to be prepared to reason with critics and to learn that in dialogue with them. And I would say that he certainly does that, but he's still working. I think it's at the University of Frankfurt now. He spent some time in the United States during the second World War, when the school to which he belonged migrated to Australia to... I'm sorry, to the United States. And then he returned after the war. Took off his work again in research and teaching at the... I think it's Frankfurt university, am I right?\r\n\r\n- It seems as though that scientist in our culture, in the Western civilization in general are given a privilege. They're all about so to speak, if you want to know what the future's going to be like math and scientist. 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And have people starting to think that there must be other rational ways of knowing and answering these questions. You're quite right, I think that the population at large needs to be brought along.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 1] Yeah, I mean a perfectly good example of this is what's been going on on this campus over the last two years and what's been going on now. I mean, it's clear as anything can be that science is big business. The state is in financial trouble and what does knowledge mean? Knowledge means the ability to generate jobs and jobs for the state and therefore knowledge just essentially means whoever it is that is doing something that is capable of being evaluated in terms of dollars and cents and jobs. I mean, that's what knowledge is. So I think you're right the connections that science is basically business means that very little more seems to me, to be just basic research Is more or less oral research that's connected with business in some sense. And is aimed at furthering the financial that is paying for research. And y'all believe me, ...before in my life.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 2] Can you talk a little bit about how Australia is dealing with this concept?\r\n\r\n- [Dr. Baldwin] In much the same way that the United States is, I would say. We... Speaking for my own subject area, we're just moving toward this focus. And we also recognize that we have to not only re-educate ourselves and the students we work with, but there's a great big public out there that we have to get to to help them to understand that we ought to be asking serious questions about the directions being taken by science. You know I think that there, I sound as though we are a totally unenlightened population, and I know that's not so, because I know that individuals are questioning some of these things that we talk about, but it seems to me that unless something is done in educational institutions soon, that the... momentum of science-based technology is going to be so great that we're not going to be equipped in a practical, moral sense to deal with the kinds of issues that it's posing. So now I can't talk much about how we're situated with regard to this in Australia because I think there are so many similarities between Australia and the United States. I don't think we're any better equipped than you are we probably are even further behind if anything, but that's a very flip statement.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 3] I guess my question is when something is coming on string, who is wise enough to see the implications of that new development? Who 50 years ago could have predicted the impact of the automobile on our society? What it has meant, the good and the bad?\r\n\r\n- [Dr. Baldwin] Right. Right, we're always going to be out of step, I suppose, to a degree, but I think part of the problem is that we haven't set up the structures and processes necessary to promote enlightened public opinion. We've isolated ourselves in our various branches of science and we've even fragmented the research that we're doing, so that even within a particular branch of science sometimes communication is difficult. Seems to me that something needs to be done to educate a group of people in a cross-disciplinary fashion so that they're abreast of what's happening in the sciences, and they can communicate in lay terms what is happening to the public at large so that the public can be sufficiently informed to enter into the debate that's necessary. Whether we can do this or not, I don't know, but it would certainly seem to me to be an appropriate move.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 4] This may not make much sense, but could you help me, thinking about the application of critical science to areas such as life-prolonging technologies. How would critical science approach questions that relate to the application of life-prolonging technologies?\r\n\r\n- [Dr. Baldwin] Well... That's a very difficult question, but it's one that ultimately must be faced I suppose, and it should be faced by now, I would think, by the medical profession. How do you... How do you... I think critique has to look at several things. Not only the well-being of the person involved, but what this technological development means for society at large. Can you be justified for instance, in spending I don't know, thousands upon thousands of dollars in prolonging the life of someone who is only going to live as a vegetable, as it were, when there are so many other people who could benefit from scientific know-how, orientated toward other directions or money spent in other ways for other purposes? Are we working for the aggrandizement of the scientists in areas like, oh I don't know, heart transplants and things like that. Where there's a great deal of publicity and so on? Or are there some very... important moral questions that ought to be faced? I don't know, I don't have the answer to that, but I think there's certainly a need for critical reflection on just what's being done. Not only for that person, but what it means for science at large. Would anyone like to come in on that?\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 5] I would think for, the one thing you would have to ask is what kinds of ideas and ideals the demand for the technological extenuation of natural, of human life beyond a certain point. that would probably get you a little closer to discussions about questions about the quality of life, other kind of questions about the ideals of society where people are afraid to grow naturally, and are resisting that kind of natural development for basically reasons that are connected, I think, in a lot of points of view with technological society itself. I mean, the idea of being able to control nature and as an extension, the desire to avoid, and to fine-tune it to the desire to prolong life as long as possible, by all ways and means it's just another variation on the for technological society in the first place that is the ability to control everything and not so I think that all kinds of questions in addition to all the issues that Dr. Baldwin just mentioned will probably have to be brought into a critical approach to that issue at some point.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 6] I was at a group of agronomy graduate students that first seminar, I have a series of seminars that the graduate students are doing themselves to talk about what are the implications of your funding sources and how to research the society of funding, funding for the research topic and what about, there's an interest in American agriculture that I think permaculture has variations in Australia on that theme. But the... faculty people there made... one of them made a statement that he wanted to come to these meetings and all that he heard was somebody coming in and talking about their religion. And he used that term to talk about the people who are entrusted in organic farming and alternative agriculture. And the term religion borders on there's something key about that, because they won't, the scientists won't listen to people who they think are espousing some sort of world view as opposed to people who are talking about things in scientific terms, perhaps. But it seems like that there's a fundamental thing you run up against each time you try and get a scientist to think broader than what they're used to thinking. And I'm wondering what about, how do you deal with that? Or, is it people who, I mean, do you just wait for a guy\r\n\r\n- [Dr. Baldwin] Sometimes. I agree, I think sometimes there are people with whom you can't argue, but you would hope that you could encourage people from different scientific orientations to come together for at least a sharing of views, if not succeeding and totally convincing others at least to move in the right direction would be to come together and talk about common interests, I think. I don't know how to answer that question because I think there will always be very closed minded people and it's very difficult to deal with that.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 7] You have to just tell them that they're actually more religious than you are. If there's anything more religious than the Superbowl in this country, it's science, right? I mean, if that's not what our religion is, god knows what. So in some ways, they're more religious than you are, right?\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 8] Dr. Baldwin, just real quickly, in response to both of those comments, it seems to me that that's what we're dealing with, that we're dealing with just, we're almost afraid to say it, but we're dealing with a spirit, we're dealing with a force that's unrecognizable. And that's that human ability, that's that practical knowledge. And when scientists deal with it they can't measure it, so they don't deal with it. And then the gentleman who spoke in that meeting today, gets stuck in this, whatever type of theory or philosophy of a religion. And it becomes religion, and so we won't deal with it because it doesn't fit. And it's either empirical knowledge that can't be measured, so we won't deal with it, or it's religion, so we won't deal with it. But it's not just the fact that it's human ability that it's beginning to be recognized. And we're trying to develop that into, or at least we're trying to make that measure of everything else that we have developed to this point. And obvious they're not coming up with answers for thousands of faces.\r\n\r\n- [Speaker 7] I made the statement that science is our religion, I meant quite literally from a sociological point of view, what do we value and worship most in our society, science or football? And it's a close call so I...\r\n\r\n- The hour is nine o'clock. Dr. Baldwin, than you again for your inspiration to us\r\n\r\n- [Dr. Baldwin] Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46848/file/120232#t=0.0,822.15184"}]}]}]}