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Before we begin, I have a few announcements to make. We will be having a speaker on Tolkien in this room on Sunday, at 1:00 PM and Sunday night at Stevens Laboratorium, at 8:00 PM we have a panel discussion featuring Tracy Chapman and Julia Butterfly, which will be followed by a 30 minute music set by Tracy Chapman. And it is free of charge.\r\n\r\n- When was that?\r\n\r\n- Sunday night, at 8:00pm Stevens Laboratorium. And now, here's our moderator, Mr.Boucher.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thanks for coming tonight to the Iowa State lectures program. Part of Banned Books Week and which we'll be discussing the Patriot Act and libraries. My name is Michael Boucher, Director of the Greenlee School, and I'll be your moderator. In their opening statements, members of our distinguished panel will tell you more about the Patriot Act. Signed into law almost two years ago shortly after the 9 11 attacks. The act include significant and some, probably Barbra who says sweeping changes to laws involving among other things, wiretaps electronic communication, surveillance and privacy regulations pertaining to banking and credit reporting. Our panel will relate some of this to library operations. At this time briefly, I'd like to introduce our panel in the middle, Gina Millsap Director of the Ames Public Library, and to my immediate left, Olivia Madison, Dean of the University Library. And to my far left Barbara Mack, attorney and associate professor in the Greenlee school they are the experts, not me. And you should direct questions to them after their opening statements and dialogue, my role is to move the discussion forward so that everyone gets a chance to speak. However, a secondary role of a moderator, is to open the proceedings with a statement or talk that will help inspire enlightened discussion. I am a journalist, author and educator. All of these descriptors involve of the bill of rights and the library. So I have chosen to open the proceedings with the talk about the meaning of the words, liberty and library. Those terms sound alike because they have similar, but different Latin roots. The short \"I\", of liberty hearkens freedom. And the long \"I\" of library hearkens book. The meanings may differ etymologically but not metaphorically. Freedom and access to education are important concepts of the republic. We feel secure because we enjoyed the blessings of liberty in America for immigrants including my Maltese parents at Ellis Island the statue of liberty was a symbol for safe haven. We also feel secure when we enter the library for many, including the disenfranchised in society; the homeless, the children, the displaced, the library also is safe haven. liberty ensures physical mobility. You have access to communities without government interference. Libraries ensure educational mobility. In a free country you have access to the community of ideas, again, without government interference. To understand the Patriot Act and its impact on libraries, we have to define liberty in the manner that the framers of the constitution may have intended. As anyone in the Navy knows the word liberty means to go were you please. You're on a ship, you dock and you're free. True you have to obey community laws, but no officer or ensign can constrain you arbitrarily, you're on liberty. The definition dates back to the philosopher John Locke, who influence our understanding of the word liberty. According to Locke, no citizens should be quote \"Subject to the inconstant, uncertain unknown arbitrary will of another man.\" According to the dictionary, liberty means that you are free from control, interference, obligation, restriction or hampering condition. You are free from captivity, confinement or physical restraints. Liberty ensures mobility. \"I have, but one lamp by which my feet are guided.\" Said the patriot Patrick Henry shortly before the start of the American Revolution. \"Give me liberty,\" he added \"Or give me death.\" That's a very important American concept. It defines us I believe more than any other cultural tenets, including social mobility or economic prosperity. To this day, segments of our society struggle to enjoy the blessings of liberty. I'll share two brief anecdotes. I taught at Ohio University for 18 years before relocating to Aims. A big debate each year concerned whether men should join women during the Take Back The Night March. Women usually would arch alone because they were notifying society symbolically that they should be able to walk the streets at any hour on any day, especially at night without being here's John Locke, again, quote \"Subject to the inconstant, uncertain, unknown, arbitrary will of another man.\" Those words ring around are true to this day, don't they? Another anecdote, during the Annual Halloween street party in Athens, university administrators make students in the residence halls wear identity tags. They do this because of all the non-students and siblings who flocked to campus to attend the festivities. An identity tag, a simple thing but many students experienced a chewing sensation literally because they have never been tagged before. In this manner, my journalism friends at ISU along Ms. Terry Anderson put this into perspective for me. Anderson, as you may know, was taken hostage and confined in Lebanon for seven years by militia men of the Hezbollah. Americans, Terry said don't wear identity tags, period. Americans believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Liberty is the dominant theme of the Declaration of Independence. It is the so-called battle cry of the rebellious. The declaration where council list of arbitrary restate restraints by King George quoting now \"Obstructing the laws of naturalization of foreigners.\" Other Royal infractions include sending British officers to harass colonists, posting Royal Army to monitor movements, cutting off trade with the rest of the world, prosecuting Americans for mock trials abroad, kidnapping them to serve in the military against their homeland. To correct these ills the 54 signers of the Declaration pledged quote \"There are lives, there are fortunes and their sacred honor.\" Tragically that honor did not recognize Africans and native Americans and their descendants along with women and other disenfranchised groups. As the orator and statesman Frederick Douglas wrote in an address aptly titled, If I Had A Country, I Should Be A Patriot. Quoting now, \"There is no mountain so high, no plain so expansive, no spots so sacred that it could be secure to me the right of liberty, wherever waves the Star Spangled Banner, there the bondsman maybe arrested and hurried back to the jaws of slavery. This is your land of the free your home of the brave.\" Frederick Douglas was an early advocate for women's suffrage. He supported Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Stanton of course wrote the Declaration of Seven Sentiments and Resolutions documenting the Lack of Liberty for women in the tone of the declaration of independence. Stanton once observed that Frederick Douglas, was the only man she ever knew who fully understood the degradation and disenfranchisement of women. Susan B. Anthony brought that treatment to life. She was put on trial because she voted at a polling station in Rochester, New York, by finding and confining her. The judge had stolen her liberty. She would rather die than pay a dollar of that unjust penalty which she maintained, reduced her from citizen to subject. Americans are many things but typically they are not monarchists. \"The loss of liberty to a generous mind is worse than death.\" That statement was made in 1735 and defensive newspaper publisher, John Peter Zanger, who was put on trial for criticizing policies of the Royal Government. He was acquitted in America. Truth is more important than authority in a minor key, authority is more important than truth. Truth will set you free, authority confines your liberty. Give me liberty that patriot said, or give me death. That notion flows in our blood, which is not Royal blue but the reverse. The hijackers on 9 11 recognized that and slammed airliners and to buildings of commerce and government. They stopped us in our tracks and tarmacs at least for a while. And during that while we had time to reflect, and many of us felt patriotic. As journalists and equivalent road quoting her now, \"When the photographers of the faces of all of those who died in the World Trade Center destruction are assembled in one place. It will be possible to trace in the skin color, the shape of the eyes and noses, the texture of the hair, a map of the world.\" These are the representatives of a Mongrel Nation that some, somehow at times like this has one spirit. How has that spirit of unity, which is one definition of patriotism changed in the life of Homeland Security? How will the safe haven of libraries change when our electronic movements there can be cataloged and surveilled? How, if at all, will we change? If we focus over much on security and not enough on securing the blessings of liberty for ourselves and for our posterity as our constitution demands these and other questions will be raised tonight along with our consciousness and awareness. We turn now to the opening statements of our panelists beginning with...\r\n\r\n- I was going to sit, but I have to stand up because Michael's whipped me into a frenzy.\r\n\r\n- That was wonderful.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- I wanted to start with a quote on privacy but I couldn't just settle on one. And so I've got several Aveena Library I've actually catalog of her categorizing for you in case you couldn't figure it out, sarcastic. \"What you have when everyone wears the same play clothes for all occasions is addressed by nicknames expected to participate in show and tell and bullied out of any desire for privacy is not democracy it is kindergarten.\" That's author and journalist, Judith Martin. Pragmatic, \"The human animal needs a freedom seldom mentioned freedom from intrusion. He needs a little privacy.\" That's Phyllis McGinley poet and essayist. Ironic, \"Unless a president CAN protect the privacy of the advice he gets, he cannot get the advice he needs.\" Richard Nixon, 37th US president on conventional moves toward impeachment at a press conference in January of 74. Literary big brother is watching you, George Orwell's 1984. Finally, and most important constitutional, the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated. And the warrants shall issue but upon probable cause supported by oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized that is our fourth amendment to the us constitution. Pretty good stuff. I want to talk a little bit about what's happening in public libraries that starting out with libraries and the concept of confidentiality. In 1731, that's 60 years before the ratification of US constitution. Benjamin Franklin founded the first library in America. It became the free library of Philadelphia. One of the premier public libraries to this day in the United States. As evidenced by the first amendment, the founders of our nation showed their respect for the power of the published word by protecting its creation and dissemination. Early library founders were aware of the tension between personal freedom and governmental control. Thomas Jefferson whose personal library became the core of the library of Congress roads. There are rights which is useless to surrender to the government in which governments have yet always been found to invade. These are the rights of thinking and publishing our thoughts by speaking or writing, the right personal freedom. In a library, physical now, or virtual, the right to privacy is the right to open inquiry without having the subjects on one's interest examined or scrutinized by others. Confidentiality exists when a library's in possession of personally identifiable information about users and keeps that information private on their behalf. Protecting user privacy and confidentiality has long been an integral part of the mission of libraries. The American Library Association has affirmed a right to privacy since 1930 there on. Rights to privacy and confidentiality are also implicit in the library deliberates guarantee of free access to library resources for all users, and we should all be very proud because the Library Bill of Rights was drafted in Des Moines in the 1940s, so yay for us. What people read, research or access remains a fundamental matter of privacy. One should be able to access all constitutionally protected information and at the same time give secure that what one reads, researches or finds in our nation's libraries is no one's business but their own. In Iowa, we have the Iowa Open Records Law known officially as chapter 22 of the Iowa codes. It states, under confidential records. \"The following public records shall be kept confidential unless otherwise ordered by a court by the lawful custodian of the records in this case, me or by another person duly authorized to release such information, the records of the library which by themselves, or when examined with other public records would reveal the identity of the library patron checking out or requesting an item or information from the library. The records shall be released to a criminal or juvenile justice agency, only pursuant to an investigation of a particular person or an organization suspected of committing a known crime. The records shall be released only upon the judicial determination that a rational connection exists between the requested release of information and a legitimate end and that the need for the information is cogent and compelling. Secondly, the material of a library museum or archive which has been contributed by a private person to the extent of any limitation, but as a condition of the contribution. So, how's the Patriot Act affected libraries? Within hours after September 11th attacks, the FBI began serving search warrants to major internet service providers to get information about suspected electronic communications. Within a week police and FBI agents receive tips that some suspects had used libraries in Hollywood Beach and Del Ray Beach, Florida. FBI agents have since requested computer signing lists from other libraries. And I want you to know that at the Institute of Library we have never kept those lists. We have a dry erase board that we just wipe them clean and most libraries are not doing that as well. So what happens as we anticipate that as we call it that knock on the door? First of all, if you do a search now on Google using the terms, Patriot Act in libraries, you get over 155,000 hits. There's a lot of stuff out there about this. And here's what I found. There's a lot of information, misinformation, rumors urban legends, and just plain lies. One big reason is because officially librarians aren't allowed to comment on FBI visits. There is actually a gag order that is part of the Patriot act. If the FBI comes to examine library users, internet surfing or book borrowing habits, unofficially though some details have surfaced. Nationwide studies conducted at the University of Illinois after September 11th found that more than 200 out of 1500 libraries survey had turned over information to law enforcement officials. The survey shows that libraries are split on whether to cooperate with the government. It is thought that such visits have declined. Still in a recent email to the Village Voice, a librarian in Bluffton, Ohio reported that an unidentified woman recently entered the library and asked for the local hazardous materials plan. The librarian just assumed she was a patron needing that information. So she got up the folder and handed it to her. And this is a quote. \"When I gave her the binder of the librarian wrote, she took out the contents and handed me a letter stating the document would no longer be available at public libraries because it contained a quote unquote \"Highly critical information and would be available at a control location for a proper ID of the user can be readily obtained.\" The letter was signed by the Director of the local department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management. Soon after a woman from the local Homeland Security Office removed the same file from the Lima, Ohio Public Library. Local officials there said to be particularly nervous about terrorism because there's a tank manufacturing plant and a large oil refinery nearby. Disseminating hazardous materials plants however is part of an effort by both environmentalists and the government to make information accessible to localities so that they can protect themselves from industrial pollution. And a March, 2003 article in the Hartford Courant, revealed that librarians and Fairfield in Hartford, Connecticut were visited by the FBI, but only one case involves a search warrant. A recent freedom of information request to the justice department asking it to divulge to the number of FBI library visits as has been denied by the government. But the Department of Justice has also claimed that it has not invoked Article 215 of the Patriot Act. So who do you believe? Libraries are responding in a variety of creative and assertive ways, anticipating that knock on the door. At the Santa Cruz Public Library, signs are posted in 10 County branches and on the library's website informing the reader that the USA Patriot Act quote, \"Prohibits library workers from informing you as federal agents have obtained records you. Questions about this policy patriots are told should be directed to Attorney General John Ashcroft, Department of Justice, Washington, D.C. And this is the code 20530. In support of local libraries, The Montana Library Association passed a resolution saying they consider parts of the Patriot Act, quote \"A present danger to the constitutional rights and privacy rights to library users.\" In Seattle, librarians handout bookmarks warning patrons that their reading habits may fall in the of federal agents. Other public libraries have posted signs announcing the FBI hasn't been here today so the customers will now to head for the hills when the sign doesn't appear. I'll work around it. And if you doubt the power and the passion of librarians and our commitment to intellectual freedom let me share a story that's related to the events of 9 11. Michael Moore's Stupid White Men was scheduled for release on September 12th, of 2001. Moore's publisher immediately decided to shelve the book, afraid to release such a scathing rant against the Bush administration in such a fragile political environment. And that did not sit well with librarian Ann Sparanese of the Englewood, New Jersey Public Library. Upon learning that Moore's book was being banned, she used the internet to let colleagues know what was happening. Within days, thousands of librarians were writing to Moore's publisher to protest. The publisher quickly reversed its decision, the book was released and went on to become a bestseller, staying on the New York Times Bestseller List for 58 weeks. In response to the show of support, Moore said \"Librarians see themselves as the guardians of the First Amendment, you got 1000 mother Jone's at the barricades. I love the librarians and I'm grateful for them.\" I think I'm gonna stop at this point and let Olivia pickup. I do have some more information about specifically what we're doing locally at Ames Public Library but I think that will come out as part of the Q and A, thanks.\r\n\r\n- I think you can tell that public libraries have gone forefront from the edge of where we are as country, in terms of protecting Americans and access to information. I did, I had started by, I want to start my remarks with a quote from Benjamin Franklin. And I guess part of it too is attributed to public libraries. He was, I can't tell you how much I love Ben Franklin. He was a bit of a rogue in some respects but he truly believed in freedom and liberty. He stated, \"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.\" And he also wrote, \"Without freedom of thought there could be no such thing as wisdom, or no such thing as public library or liberty without freedom of speech.\" I would be remiss as a librarian not to mention that this is The Banned Books Week. And it is a week that is sponsored by a number of organizations. One of which is The American Library Association. It's message is more than the freedom to choose and the freedom to express one's opinion even if that opinion might be considered unorthodox or unpopular. The essential message of Banned Books Week is the importance of ensuring the availability of those unorthodox unpopular viewpoints to all who wish to read them. At heart of what we were talking about in terms of the Patriot Act, is in a sense a subset of the much broader issue of freedom to read, freedom to know what is happening in one's life, one's society and the information that underscores that. A part of our focus this evening is on Patriot Act, and I will mention that as well. But I would like to take a few more minutes on banning and challenging books. Books usually are challenged with the best of intentions to protect others, often children from difficult ideas and information. Between 1990 and 2000, the top three reasons for challenging materials and members of the public that these materials were considered to be sexual explicit or contain offensive language or unsuited to an age group. 71% of these challenges were to school or to school libraries. It's not just public libraries that face many of these issues, it's the school library and it's the K-12 Teacher who has a reading class. These are also on the front line of invasion of advanced high determined rights dream. 24% or ultimate materials from public libraries and 60% of the challenges came from parents. A book may be challenged but not actually banned. A banned book is one that is actually removed and there are many instances of banned books in a sense as we look at freedom of information, government information for example. There have been in the sense of banned books in the way of electronic materials because I'm told mounds of government information has been withdrawn the public as an outcome of 9 11 but two in some cases, create opportunity. Most of the challenges are unsuccessful and most material are retained in the school curriculum the library collection, but the bookstore this is due to the commitment of librarians, teachers, parents, students and other concerned citizens. In nine, 2002 the top three most challenged books were Harry Potter series, for its focus on wizardry and magic, the Alice series, by Phyllis Reynolds Naylor for being by sexually explicit and using offensive language and being unsuited to age groups and the Chocolate War by Robert Cormier. This was the most challenged fiction book in 1998, and in 2001, it was also the top three. It is the top single book of being challenged issue as well as many parts. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn continues to be a target. It remains in the top 10 list of challenge folks in 2002, number seven. And this is racism and sensitivity and offensive language. The most challenged authors in 2002 were JK Rowling, Judy Bloom, and Robert Cormier. Challenging and banning books have chilling effects on the rights of individuals in there as well as their comfort zone and using library collections for purchasing books. Traditional library service trusted partners in our societal interest in obtaining information and obtaining what we want to read and learn about. However, there are increasingly other ways that obstruct our access to information and reading the two of those. What is the practice dare I say, that goes back centuries book banning. This practice is still adhered to in this 21st century. It was castigated by President Dwight D Eisenhower, when he was president at Dartmouth College, when he said, \"Don't think you're going to conceal false by concealing evidence against that they ever existed. Don't be afraid to go to your library read every book, as long as any document doesn't defend your own ideas of decency, it should be the only censorship.\" Yeah for we defeat communism and how we will defeat communism unless we know what it is? What it teaches and why he doesn't have such an appeal for men? Why are so many people swearing allegiance to it? It's almost a religion of yet one of neither regions. We have got to fight it with something better not to try to conceal the thinking of our own people. In 2213 BC all Confucian books were banned in China, he's so sorry guys. Save one copy of each which was kept in the Chinese state library. This was the destroying the literature, prosecuting Confucius with an extension of the original plan, consolidate the Qing dynasty. By establishing intellectual conformity, the emperor hoped to stime criticism of a period of rule that would lead to revolution. Perhaps most well known organized book burning sprawled in Nazi Germany. However, the libraries and the collections continue to be tragic targets. On April 14 2003, Iraq's national library and archives home to 1 million books and an archive trove of 20 million bucks million documents were burned. On January 7th, 2002 communist authorities and Hoshi men set torch tons of books deemed culturally poisonous by watchdogs state media official said. However we have our own share book banning in the United States. Sometimes now the guys of book shredding or cutting because local fire departments will not deny permits for book burning. Just last week, last month on August 3rd, 2003 there was a church sponsored burning of Harry Potter books and other such materials as CDs by Bruce Springsteen and Disney videos, such as Pinocchio in Michigan. Last year in San Francisco an individualized ban, an individual vandalized over 600 books in the San Francisco Public Library in Chinatown branch. Targets were volumes on gay and lesbian subjects. Some of them out of print and hard to replace. In November 2001, in Lewiston, Maine there was a book cutting because the organizers were denied permit for book burning. The target of that was popular fantasy tales that the leader said encouraged witchcraft, occult practices and resilience among children. A second troubling aspect to this denial of access is as I mentioned before, a growing denial of access to government information, much of which has been sponsored by research done in university such as IUC University. Direct public access to government information was quickly curtailed on 9 11. Government sites were closed down to public access, many of which have not been restored. These often dealt with transportation issues fuel, nuclear facilities, hazardous waste, water resources information. As a depository library, Iowa State University was asked to withdraw books from our collection that were insensitive print copies or print formats of some of this information. That's because as a depository library, we have government information given to us to that depository system but it is in sense on loan to us. And so we, with our contract, we have to return it at any point in time in which it asks you to. The issue with government sites is it continues to be troublesome. On the internet archive which I don't know, have any of you use internet archive?\r\n\r\n- Archives are working.\r\n\r\n- This started by a private individual. And he's an amazing man. And he decided that he needed to, we needed to be copying the internet. And he does that routinely. And he was told that he needed to remove those same government sites. And it's been pulled by the agencies, federal agencies and he refused. So he wanna see some of the government sites that insisted prior to the withdrawal of those sites and can go to the internet archive. However, that doesn't solve the issue for the information that would have continued be place on the internet through those agencies. The most recent threat to the public's ability to read what it chooses since of course the Patriots Act provision of permitting federal agents under the simple rubric of to obtain access to library search, sorry, provisions of permitting federal agents in our libraries and obtain access to library circulation records. The Patriot Act gives law enforcement unprecedented powers of surveillance, including easy access to these rare records with minimal judicial oversight. The kind of oversight that Gina mentioned that's an IRA code and nowhere bears any resemblance to the oversight that is required or not required should I say by the Patriot Act. It's been stressed by many officials by some officials that only individuals directly involved in terrorism need to be concerned. And it's not what the law states. The law lowers the legal standards relevance rather than the higher standard of probable cause required by the Fourth Amendment. In March, 2003 the justice department said that the libraries have become a logical target for surveillance. Libraries have a history of with law enforcement dating back to the McCarthy era that gives us pause. For decades, and this leg is the eighth time since the 1980s the FBI's library awareness program sudden probation on the reading habits of people from quotes \"Hostile cut point countries\" and quotes \"As well as US citizens who held the unpopular views, unpopular political themes.\" Last Thursday after reports of response, American Libraries Association's President Carla Hayden, Attorney General John Ashcroft, criticism of libraries patriotic, Patriot Act hysteria, Attorney General John Ashcroft backed off and agreed to reveal how often library records have been supposedly sought under the Patriot Act. The answer to reports he said was zero. And a memo to FBI Director Dr. Robert Mueller, Ashcroft acknowledge that section 215 had never been used to seek reference in libraries and bookstores. For Ashcroft thinly hoped that such a revelation would enforce it's premise that librarians were overreacting to the Patriot Act, instead Emily Sheketoff, Executive Director, ALA of the Washington office argued that Ashcroft's revelation bolstered ALA's position that the controversial provision should be rescinded given that had never been used, why did it need to be there? Sheketoff said that Ashcroft's revelation is a pure dreamt demonstration that the pre-agreed standards should be restored. She also noted that justice department officials have acknowledged library investigations that proceed under traditional legal authorities. And that ALA has received several calls from libraries seeking legal counsel. And he Craig Buthod, Director of Louisville, The Louisville Public Library said that, I've told the AP that his library had twice received phone calls from sorry, receive calls and the FBI requesting records. So not under the Patriot Act, because they never, they had never obtained court orders. He turned them down, they never followed them. Attorney General John Ashcroft has maintained his scathing tone quote, \"The fact is with just 11,000 FBI agents and over a billion visitors to American libraries each year, the department of justice has neither the staffing, the time or the inclination to monitor the reading habits of Americans.\" No offense, he said to American Library Association \"But we just don't care.\" In a press release last week, the American Library Association welcome media and news reports that the justice department will be classified as weak court. Carla Hayden said, \"I'm glad the Attorney General finally agreed to declassify this report. After almost two years of seeking an open and full account of the activity by federal agents in libraries. We hope it symbolizes a significant commitment to ongoing reporting to American public on US counters.\" As Gina talked about, but public libraries have been doing in particular Ames Public Library in terms of if someone comes calling it, I would say I would like to say that in terms of our circulation records which tends to be the key interest point in such as a call came is that after a book has been returned we destroyed the circulation record that's associated with the person's name and the book has been checked out. And so as soon as we can, we destroy those records. Our library is also looking at all other kinds of records within the library in which individuals names could be associated with something perhaps you bought, purchased. For example, we receive requests from family members often to order materials. We have not always stripped those two pieces of information apart from each other but we're equally concerned about those kinds of records. In the library loan records which individuals have requested books from other libraries or any number of records that we are looking at beyond circulation records because we believe that we need to again be vigilant as we can be in protecting the interests of the people who use our library and their privacy.\r\n\r\n- Now I will tell you that I promise to try to be fair to John Ashcroft.\r\n\r\n- Berenbaum\r\n\r\n- Berenbaum I don't know who would thought I've been in balance for a while. My perspective is in essence the call to arms and a cautionary note, I was interested when I was thinking about what Dr. Boucher said, when we started about access to our government access to the places that embody government for us. Oddly enough, on September 12th of 2001, you could still pick a White House tour. You could visit the National Archives. You could go into the Washington Monument. You could go into the United States Capitol. You could go into the National Portrait Gallery and the Smithsonian and all of the wonderful buildings that are there at the mall. We didn't become terrified immediately. There was one brief shining moment where we stood defiantly and said, \"We aren't going to let you close down, the Houses of Congress, the United States Senate, the place where our President lives, the place where we keep our constitution in place, where we keep our bill of rights, our monument to our first Presidents. Our monument to Thomas Jefferson and our monument Abraham Lincoln.\" It took us a while, to let the terrors sneak up on us, but it didn't take very long. It took two weeks before they locked down the White House which by the way, just reopened to public tours. It took only 10 days before all public tours of the United States Capitol were stopped until visitors can be appropriately screened. And it really helps to get note from your Congressman Oh gosh, I think there are a couple of Congresswoman and she said Iowa never had one. And it took all of, it took all six weeks for the Patriot Act to be passed through both houses of Congress and signed into law. Now, oddly enough, since the Patriot Act is not exactly an EDB piece of legislation, it can't be that bad piece of legislation. That tells me that they probably that probably the Justice Department had been thinking about this for a while and was waiting for a good opportunity. September 11th provided that good opportunity. It gave those who believe that the greatest thing we have to fear is another September 11, the impetus to push that bill through Congress while the American people were busy making their contributions to September 11th funds and reeling in shock and horror. It was passed with the kind of lightening speed normally reserved for a declaration of war, as in fact many people view it. The founding documents of the war on terrorism which is what John Ashcroft has called it. There are those of us who would argue that what we have to fear is not another September 11th. We can live and we can survive people who attack our buildings, people who attack our infrastructure, people who would take down our power grid, the thing we made on survivors and people who would take down the liberties that make us who we are. Ooh, of course draining the speech, yes and I didn't have it written down either. From my heart but I really believe that, you know, I actually was kind of at one moment, I thought, Oh, that makes sense. When I heard John Ashcroft say \"We won't be able to get a search warrant under the Patriot Act without an order from a federal judge.\" This was before I'd actually seen the text of the act. And then I said, \"Oh, okay, well I feel better a little.\" And then I realized something that Olivia just pointed out that I wanna stress to you. And that is guess where the Justice Department goes to get warrants, to do what is affectionately known as sneak and peek, by the way puts sneak and peek into Google and you an get an equal number of hits on the Justice Department and porn sites. I'm going through a fractless underwear that John Ashcroft How many of you know what the United States foreign intelligence surveillance court is? One, two, three people, all right. It's the court that nobody knows exists and you don't know who's on it. And it doesn't have to keep any records that are made public. It does have federal judges who sit on it and ugly enough there he has been one appeal and I love this language and had to share it with you. This is the first appeal from the foreign intelligence surveillance court to the court of review. Since the passage of the foreign intelligence surveillance act in 1997 or 1978, excuse me, 1978. We got this little guy sitting around for a while. Happy 25th birthday. This appeal is brought by the United States from my Fiza, I hate the government. This of course surveillance order which imposed certain restrictions on the government, since the government is the only party to a foreign intelligence surveillance court activity. We've accepted the brief filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers as friends of the court. And let me want to read this opinion, big chunks of which are blank out because they're classified And you realize you never do find out what the court's looking at. The government has never required to make what is called a return of service. If I want to search Dr. Boucher's house, because I think he's a crack addict and he's supplementing his salary by dealing crack cocaine out of the house. Oh no, it's not the man, okay. I would, that was mean. Wasn't it. Good morning. I would have to go to a court and I would have to say, \"Court I'm a law enforcement officer. Here's the information we have, here are the affidavits we have from the people who bought crack cocaine from Dr. Boucher, here is our evidence. Court, we'd like a search warrant to go and search his home. And the court would decide whether or not we had what is known as probable cause. And then if the court grants the warrant, I would go and execute the warrant. And I would have to notify him that I had indeed executed or performed a warrant. I just couldn't sneak in when he wasn't home, look around snag the crack cocaine, cause him to wonder if mice had eaten it while he was out which he's a very happy mice and not tell him we'd been there. You'd have to say, we're searching your house, here's what we're taking. I got to give him a list of everything we took. And then I'd have to go back to the court and I'd have to say, your honor, thanks for the warrant. Here's a list of everything we took. And by the way, we're filing charges. He would know we had been there. He would know what we had taken and the court would know you'd been there and know what we've taken. Cancel that under the Patriot Act. Under the Patriot Act, the Justice Department representing the CIA or representing the FBI or the happy Homeland Security family of agencies working on your behalf. 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name,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=16.9,19.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or you might have been in the wrong place at the wrong time,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=19.97,24.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you may be spied upon,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=24.24,26.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you may never know it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=26.81,28.223"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, this makes a lot of us very 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hide,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=39.65,42.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you have nothing to fear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=42.99,45.003"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the argument that has been 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king,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=51.92,54.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you won't mind having your home searched.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=54.83,58.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you are a true subject of the king,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=58.39,62.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you won't mind having a member of the military","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=62.67,66.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"living under your roof.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=66.84,68.563"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People have made that argument","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=69.95,72.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for as long as we have sought human liberty,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=72.38,76.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from the time Milton began writing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=76.51,78.893"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441/transcript/28511/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it has never held 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No, never entered them. So if you happen to have, oh, a foreign-sounding name, or you might have been in the wrong place at the wrong time, you may be spied upon, and you may never know it. Now, this makes a lot of us very uncomfortable, and it makes John Ashcroft very happy. Now, certainly it is easy to argue with people, look, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. That's the argument that has been made from time immemorial, to say if you're a good subject of the king, you won't mind having your home searched. If you are a true subject of the king, you won't mind having a member of the military living under your roof. People have made that argument for as long as we have sought human liberty, from the time Milton began writing, and it has never held water, because there are always those who would be willing. There are those who would be willing to say yes, come, read my files, look at my credit card records, I have nothing to hide, and you know, I hope those people lead a wonderful life. I hope they don't mind at all when they are given an identity tag. You know, frankly, why stop at an identity tag? Why not just barcode us, and put an ear tag on, like we do cattle? Or if it would be even more convenient, we could probably tattoo a barcode right here. It worked really well in '41 through '45.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- It is the temptation to believe that you do not have a duty to watch how your government behaves that will lead you like lambs to the slaughter to giving up the civil liberties that enable you to function. And while it is terrifying and horrible to think that someone may well choose to fly another airplane into a building that we cherish or care about, or plant a bomb under the arches of the Golden Gate Bridge, or blow up the Hoover Dam, or any of the other high-yield targets that unfortunately have been identified, the real high-yield target that we have to care about is our freedom. You have the duty as citizens of this country, and I realize here I'm preaching to the converted, or you wouldn't be here, you'd be home watching \"West Wing.\" You have the duty not only to write your own congressmen, or senator, or your own congressional representative, if you aren't from Iowa, and have someone who wears pantyhose to work. You have the duty to educate yourself, and you have the duty to rally other people to your cause. Citizenship in this country is hard work, and it is advanced democracy. It is not a government for people who want to be lazy. It is not a government for people who want to sit home and watch the president on TV, 'cause Martin Sheen does such a good job. It is a government for people who are willing to get out there and yell and scream and petition and write and knock and telephone and fax until their elected representatives hear their voices. The real message of Banned Book Week is freedom is only yours if you work to protect it. Get out there, and whether you're fighting for a book, or whether you're fighting for your library records, or whether you're fighting for your ability to walk into a library and read something about hydrogen bombs without the FBI stopping by your house the next day, fight. Don't quit, because the minute you do, we've lost the real terrorism battle. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you to all our panelists. If anyone has a question, please go to the microphone, and we will work in order, and I'll try to direct it, or you can just speak to whom you'd like to speak. Yeah, go ahead. Bob? Oh, wow-\r\n\r\n- Well, I don't need a microphone. Gina, I tried to follow as carefully as I could your reading from the Iowa Open Records Law regarding the exemption for the release of patron information libraries. It seemed to be tied to a specific ability of the government to tie a particular person to a particular criminal act. That is, and according to my understanding, different from and higher than the standard in the PATRIOT Act, as far as what the federal government would need to go to the library to get that. You've got a PATRIOT Act that says you have to release. You've got a state open records law that says you can't release. Is there a conflict there, and how would Ames Public Library handle it if there was?\r\n\r\n- Well, here's the, can you hear me? Okay, here's the reality. You know, federal laws supersede state laws. That's the first thing. So this law exists. Potentially, this is what would happen. This is a scenario. There's, I mean, it can be quite complex, but there are potentially three types of inquiries that law enforcement could make. The first would be simply coming in and saying, hey, we'd like to see your records, or you know, we're kind of looking around, we have some suspicions about certain individuals. At that point, any staff member knows all of those queries simply go to me. If it's simply a request for information, I would deny it. A law enforcement official could also come in with a subpoena. At that point, I would contact our city attorney, John Klaus, who I have worked with on this, and will continue to work with on this, and we would review the case. That is negotiable still. However, under the PATRIOT Act, if law enforcement comes in with a warrant, I stand aside, and they can take the hard drives.\r\n\r\n- That's scary.\r\n\r\n- And I can't tell anybody about that.\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, true.\r\n\r\n- That's also why it puts so much pressure on librarians to erase records quickly, clean caches quickly, get rid of individually identifiable information as soon as they don't need it. And I will tell you that, you know, I spend most of my time representing newspapers and broadcast stations, and most of the time we really oppose efforts to close state controlled, or municipally controlled records. The Iowa Newspaper Association and the Iowa Broadcasters Association worked with and supported the Iowa Library Association in getting this exemption passed, because we feel that strongly that people need the right of private intellectual inquiry. But now, you know, I love these folks. I do volunteer work for the Library Association, and this is crouching tiger, and that's hidden dragon, because you're, you know, you really realize these librarians, you know, there are rules in life. One of them is never screw with your librarian. That's right.\r\n\r\n- Because, you know, it's like watching them battle with quarterstaves, you know? \"We'll clean the records the minute the book is back!\" So the FBI had better be pretty quick on the money.\r\n\r\n- I came late, and perhaps you already addressed my concern. I heard that the Library Association has made protestations to the federal government, but our university library belongs to the university. The city library belongs to the city. Do we just let libraries fight our fight for us, or do brother institutions to which these libraries belong stand up and defend them?\r\n\r\n- Gonna take that one.\r\n\r\n- Gosh, I wish Greg Joffrey were here.\r\n\r\n- In terms of the broader issue, that there were a lot of partners with American Library Association in voicing its concern over the PATRIOT Act, and, specifically, and in terms of what it has, what its implications can be for privacy of , privacy of patron records. We have an Association for Research Libraries that Iowa State belongs to, which is the 115 research libraries in Canada and the United States. That organization has put money into this issue, and has been working with ALA, and ALA as well as, also has the numbers of divisions within it, and the Public Library Association is one of them that has been working closely with ALA, the ALA Association. I would say that, and I think Gina did a good job of stating the backup that she has within, for the Ames Public Library, in terms of the legal offices of the city. We likewise would have access to certainly our legal services office at Iowa State, and I, in terms of something, a specific issue, or a question, or complaint. But I have no reason to doubt the support that this university would have to protecting within the legal limits of what we can protect our rights to privacy.\r\n\r\n- The public library is a department of the city of Ames, but we are unique in that we actually have a governing board. I am, for instance, the only city department head that does not report to the city manager. I have a board of trustees of nine. It takes nine people to keep me in line, essentially, is what I'm telling you. And so, the mayor, our mayor and city council, of which Herman was a member for some time, have always respected and recognized the legal authority and judgment of the Ames Public Library Board of Trustees. So again, I've had nothing but support from our city manager, our city council, our city attorney on these issues.\r\n\r\n- You mind if I don't use the mic? It's not working anyway. The first concern is if they came in and took all the hard drives, you couldn't even tell your board of trustees that you needed to replace them for some reason, and how many you needed.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Jokes aside, I'm kind of concerned. I don't know a lot about computer hardware, but I have had our information tech person retrieve a lot of information off of my hard drive that I thought had been trashed and was gone. What kind of magic little scrubbing brush do you have that gets rid of all the information on the hard drives, so if they took the hard drives, they don't just retrieve it all off of it?\r\n\r\n- Do you mind if I take this person? Actually, one of the things that libraries are dealing with right now is most us have, there's a handful of software providers that have library management systems, and actually Parks Library and Ames Public Library have the same provider, Dynix. One of the things that we're discovering is exactly what you're saying, that we really need to be very careful, and really hold our vendors' feet to the fire about what's actually going away, because we know that there's some historical record that's retained for some time. If, say, Barbara comes in and checks out a book. She brings it back. It goes off of her record. It may or may not still be retrievable, and that we have yet, has yet to be determined, unless you have something to add to that, Olivia?\r\n\r\n- Part of what we do within our system is that we override data that already exists, and so, that it's in a sense copied over. So it's, it would be extremely difficult to retrieve that. But Gina's point is well taken. We need to, as a library community, continue to work closely with the small number of commercial vendors out there that create library systems to make sure that we are doing everything we can, that when we delete information that we truly are making it extremely difficult to retrieve it.\r\n\r\n- I also want to just raise your awareness of one other thing, which is not directly related to library records, but that is computer records that exist in internet service providers. For example, if the Justice Department obtained a warrant from our friends at FISA, the Justice Department could, for example, read all of Iowa State's email. They could read the email of any particular student. It could search email looking for certain code words. And the fact that the September 11th hijackers used email to communicate among themselves has meant that the Justice Department has not been willing to make the kind of disclosure about email records that it has made about library circulation, or library circulation records, and people need to be aware of that.\r\n\r\n- It has been used with the Kazaa investigations, for the users who were sharing a lot of files.\r\n\r\n- I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you.\r\n\r\n- Oh, I think they used the PATRIOT Act to subpoena ISPs to find out more about users of Kazaa, which is to share the illegal music, and sharing stuff. So it's been used-\r\n\r\n- Actually, that's even more fun. You don't have to go to the PATRIOT Act. You can just use the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which is even more fun, but that's a whole 'nother course. Take that course in due course. Yeah?\r\n\r\n- I have a question for Barbara Barbara, do you know what the status, can you hear me?\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- Okay. A bill was introduced, I think, in March of 2003 called the Freedom to Read Act. Do you know the status of that act at this point?\r\n\r\n- In committee, as far as I, I tried to check it today, and if it's come out of committee, I couldn't find it. That's, it's, it would help fix some of the problems.\r\n\r\n- Are there any more? Yes, sir?\r\n\r\n- Let me try to mic anyway. Can get it to work. It's not working.\r\n\r\n- Yes, it is.\r\n\r\n- It's working.\r\n\r\n- It is working-\r\n\r\n- You can hear this better-\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- If I talk this way-\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Than if I talk this way?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Okay, all right. I'm gonna talk about two quick points passing on the fact that I do not understand why \"Harry Potter\" won favorite book. We had a similar activity at the Ames Public Library Thursday night with the, on this. Several of you may have been there, and I made the point then that Herman and I both made that some of this revolves around the notion in the words national security, and it was under the rubric of national security that a lot of this happened. And I would remind you that national security was the reason we interned Japanese Americans in World War II.\r\n\r\n- Mmm-hmm.\r\n\r\n- National security is also the phrase that Richard Nixon used over and over and over and over to justify everything that he did that turned out to be just illegal , such as sneaking and peeking into the offices of Dr. Fielding, Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist. That was the break-in illegal act that they were covering up. They weren't covering up Watergate. They didn't care about Watergate. Those guys had been arrested. They were going to jail. It wasn't Watergate they were worried about. It was the connection between Watergate and the break-in in Fielding's office, and what they also called, the attorney general called the White House horrors. So national security is a phrase I read in the newspaper about two weeks ago by, just spoken by President Bush. So that's what we're doing all this for. Okay, then I wanna, the second point I want to amend by addition your comment that people ought to fight, fight, fight. You got to vote, vote, vote.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- 'Cause really, it's all about funding. And I would point out that in addition to voting, to have someone to vote for, someone to run, and Barbara, if you're unhappy that we don't have any women in Congress- She'll be the first of the nation.\r\n\r\n- Okay!\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Damn, I missed governor of California.\r\n\r\n- Go ahead, sir.\r\n\r\n- Just to follow up a little bit of information, this Star Chamber court, the FISB, or whatever the acronym was-\r\n\r\n- FISC.\r\n\r\n- Information I've read from the ACLU says that they have processed since 1978 15,000 requests from the FBI. Of those 15,000 requests, they have modified five of them, turned down zero. So much for checks and balances. I would hope since there apparently is a conflict between the state law and the federal law that if you got a request coming into your library that violated the state law that you would make a test case out of it, and I think that this community would stand in strong support of you on that. Make them take you to federal court. Make a test case out of it. And while I'm standing up, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna pass up the opportunity to exercise my First Amendment freedom of association. Anybody who wants to join the ACLU-\r\n\r\n- Right, be another card-carrying member.\r\n\r\n- Final questions. Yeah, more, come, step up, please.\r\n\r\n- Sure. I just have one quick question. When we were talking about hard drives, and you know, let them take them, when an FBI agent would theoretically come and make a request to, for some records, would they be looking into a patron, or would they be looking for people who were reading on a certain topic? Do they wanna know about people, or do they wanna know about who's reading what?\r\n\r\n- The problem with the PATRIOT Act is that it essentially encourages very vague fishing expeditions. So it could be any of those, or none of those, and they don't have to tell us.\r\n\r\n- Ouch.\r\n\r\n- All they really have to say is move over.\r\n\r\n- Are there any records that public libraries or libraries in general are required by law to hold for a certain number of years or anything like that?\r\n\r\n- As far as anything that ties, for instance, your name to what you have requested, checked out, you know, borrowed from another library, searched in a database on the internet, no.\r\n\r\n- Could you talk about the sunset provisions of the act?\r\n\r\n- You mean the non-existent sunset provisions?\r\n\r\n- Oh.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Yes, there's sunset provision in the PATRIOT Act, sort of like some recently passed tax credits for the wealthy have sunset provisions that provide that Congress has to renew the provisions of the act I actually, do you know for sure when the PATRIOT Act expires?\r\n\r\n- December, 2005.\r\n\r\n- Five, thank you. I always go, I was debating between 2005 and 2006. So Congress will have to look at it again. I mean, this is going to continue to be a fight. There is now pending a total of something like 40 bills that would affect or amend the PATRIOT Act, and you look at organizations like the ACLU if you're suspicious. I think it is also good to look at things like the Electronic Freedom Foundation, the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, the Intellectual Property Office at the American Library Association are all good places for you to inform yourself about what attempts are being made to moderate the PATRIOT Act in various ways, shapes, and forms, some for the good, some for the bad, depending on how you view it. You have to be out there making a point to educate yourself, and looking at lots of different sources. I mean, frankly, don't trust the ACLU. I'm a member of the ACLU. I think they try to be honest brokers, but they clearly have a viewpoint. I've spent as much time looking at the Department of Justice website as I did the ACLU website, and I think that's important. You know, you owe the government a fair hearing, you owe the supporters of the act a fair hearing, and you owe its opponents a fair hearing, so.\r\n\r\n- I have one unoriginal suggestion. When John Poindexter was put in charge of some surveillance office that were supposed to collect information about our private behavior and our habits, activists on the other side looked on the web for information about him of the same kind that he was being allowed to collect about us. So pretty soon his house was on the website, his phone number was there, and well, they got so many phone calls they first unlisted their number, and then they sold the house, and moved away. But how about, how about asking John Poindexter to be an example of patriotic citizenship and report to the public about everything he reads? How would he refuse that? If indeed this is such a good idea that we know, and if he's such a virtuous citizen, then we ought to emulate him. So maybe he could create his top, or top 10 list, which will be published to the newspaper, and that will presumably bring business to libraries of your kind, because there are lots of people who agree with John Poindexter. You presume they would like to read what he reads, so they would become equally smart.\r\n\r\n- I think the other thing that we might be aware of is that the ACLU has been very proactive in this regard, but you can also find the Americans for Tax Reform, Norquist, who has come out and said to the conservatives, \"Remember, someday Hillary Clinton is going to be \"the attorney general. \"You conservatives need to remember that.\" And you have Barr, Robert Barr, from Georgia, who's come out and said that the PATRIOT Act is the most atrocious attack on our civil liberties in our history. Dick Armey came out, and has, and he stripped out the tips program, and Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum has signed onto a letter. So there's a whole range of other groups that are concerned about this from, not from the ACLU line, or perspective, but from other perspectives as well. So you can make a case that this is across the board concern. It isn't just-\r\n\r\n- Liberals.\r\n\r\n- Liberals.\r\n\r\n- Wide-eyed, bed-wetting, knee-jerk, bleeding heart, commie, pinko-sympathizing, left-leaning liberals?\r\n\r\n- Well?\r\n\r\n- It's important, and I think the other thing is , you know, there are, as we've noted here, the PATRIOT Act is act one, then there's PATRIOT Act II-\r\n\r\n- Two.\r\n\r\n- Which is in draft, and then there's the VICTORY Act, which is, Orrin Hatch is supposed to be introducing this month. And all of these things are coming up, and if they aren't admitted one way, then they're attached to other pieces of what, pieces are attached to other pieces of legislation. So you have this kind of sneak approach for adding onto and expanding on these different acts, and it has nothing to do with 215, which is what we're dealing with here, and and from the PATRIOT Act. But, and I guess that my final comment is in some ways, this is also a distraction from the war on terrorism. And it is, I mean, it's important for us to pay attention to this, you know, but I'm like are we any further, are we more secure because we have 215 on the books? Is that really, you know, will that prevent another terrorist attack?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- You know, if you put it all in a schema, we have to address these things, but while we're addressing these things, what in the hell else are they doing? And that's why you have to keep looking at the VICTORY Act and now these other things, because these guys work overtime on this stuff, and it's incredible. But it's also nice to know that there are a few people on the right, in the middle, and every place else that are onboard this thing, and-\r\n\r\n- Well said. I would only probably correct the conservative that said Hillary Clinton will be the attorney general. I think what they're really afraid of is that Hillary Clinton will be appointing the attorney general.\r\n\r\n- Any more questions? I can't limit questions on occasions like this though. If you do have one, please go up to the microphone. Well, just a few summation points. Vote, vote, vote. It's an important notion to what we're talking about, probably the most important concept that makes this forum so public and so important at a land grant institution. The purpose of education is not so that you can make more money, or find a job, or achieve social mobility. The purpose of an education and a republic is simply to make intelligent choices in the voting booth. That's it. That's why education in this country is so important. The First Amendment equally is important to hold our elected officials accountable. Thomas Jefferson said that if he had a choice, he would prefer newspapers without government, rather than government without newspapers. But he said a second sentence after that that I think is germane not only to education at a land grant institution and journalism, but libraries too. He said provided that the populous can read those newspapers, and that they would be circulated. There are banned books in the corner. Mine is not a banned book. It's how to write one, and over there, over there are refreshments. Thank you all for this public forum and participation in citizenry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43483/file/116441#t=0.0,1711.512"}]}]}]}