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I'm a public historian at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=4.16,6.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Iowa State University. Today we are talking with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=6.8,10.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paul Leslie. 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And as I mentioned, we're talking to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=21.47,24.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paul Lasley. He's a sociologist at Iowa State who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=24.17,27.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"holds a dual appointment with extension and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=27.2,29.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"outreach. Paul, can you hear me OK? I can. Thank","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=29.54,33.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you. Great. If you don't mind, Paul, could you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=33.53,35.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spell your last name for me? 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And let's say I wanted to start off, Paul,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=46.34,49.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with asking you a little bit about your early life","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=49.55,51.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and background. 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Do you think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=3445.61,3447.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's much more accentuated now than it was when","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=3447.5,3450.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you started 40 years ago? Yeah, yeah. 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The part of my scholarship is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=4643.32,4646.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1098","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this interdependency between rural and urban. 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You know what what advice","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=4655.83,4658.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would you have for someone new that was coming in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=4658.89,4662.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to a joint appointment like you have with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=4662.7,4666.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sociology and extension? 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But I always and in fact,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5068.53,5071.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I still came here and I still can. But but I but I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5071.74,5076.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"could work in Iowa on road construction. 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And I'm not having more","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5086.23,5091.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"problems than, you know, of course I've been","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5091.45,5093.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through desensitisation twice, but that it wasn't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5093.94,5098.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"divine. 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And we put this project","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5113.62,5116.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"together to really kind of recognize all the work","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5116.35,5119.92"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that people like yourself have done over the years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5120.1,5122.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it's it's it's an honor to be involved in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5123.1,5126.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the project. 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And I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5159.37,5163.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"keep in contact with that, that that I know they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5163.54,5168.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"share some of those same feelings of social","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5169.45,5171.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"isolation. So I applaud the effort that you and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5171.82,5176.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"others are doing to put this project together. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5176.56,5179.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I look forward to reading the results. Well, so do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5179.47,5183.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5183.07,5183.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Paul Paul, if you don't mind, could you stay","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5185.89,5188.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the line just for a second and I'm going to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5188.62,5190.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stop recording and I'll be right back with you in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5190.51,5192.73"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just one second, Paul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=5192.73,5193.96"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34282/annotation/1239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/034/282/original/Lasley_2021-02-22.vtt?1636648747","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/034/282/original/Lasley_2021-02-22.vtt?1636648747"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34283","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Text [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166/transcript/34283/annotation/1240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- OK, this is Mark Barron, I'm a public historian at Iowa State University. Today we are talking with Paul Leslie. We're talking with the Iowa State University Extension and Outreach Oral History Project, talking to people who have 40 years or more service. And as I mentioned, we're talking to Paul Lasley. He's a sociologist at Iowa State who holds a dual appointment with extension and outreach. Paul, can you hear me OK? I can. Thank you. Great. If you don't mind, Paul, could you spell your last name for me? Yes, it's lasley l a s l e y. All right. Sounds great. And let's go ahead. And let's say I wanted to start off, Paul, with asking you a little bit about your early life and background. Could you tell me where you grew up? Yes, I. I grew up in northeast Missouri, in Schuyler County, which is the northernmost county in Missouri. So much the Iowa line. And it's just south of Bloomfield, Iowa. And I went I went to grade school and high school at Queen City, Missouri. I graduated with them from high school in the spring of 1970. Was it kind of a rural setting where you grew up? Well, now rural is kind of a relative term. Well, I suppose by today's standards to be considered rural, there were there were twenty four in my high school class and we were one of the larger classes before they closed the school. I think they closed that school in about nineteen seventy two or three and made it a county wide school system. So we were very rural. It's a farming community. This kind of county is one of the smallest counties geographically in the state of Missouri and and in fact one of the lowest density counties in the state. There there's Lankester is the county seat of Scotter County and that's our largest town, about seven hundred people. And Clean City, which was my hometown, was about 500 people. Wow, interesting. Did you grow up on a in a like a farm setting? Did you have a family farm or anything like that? Yes, we were my my grandparents were farmers. In fact, all of my ancestors were farmers. But my dad actually started in the salvage small salvage yard. And so I tell people that I have the benefits of being raised in a junkyard as well as on the farm. So, Joe, what kind of things did he salvage was an agricultural equipment or just in. Well, some some farm equipment is wore out and then took off into fence, but also old cars. And that was actually what I enjoyed the most because that people would bring in old junk cars or we would tell them anything from car accidents or people just get tired of driving their cars. And my older brother and I would those cars would come in. Why? The first thing we do is we we jerk the seats out of those cars and looking for coins and and souvenirs. And so as a kid growing up, a very frugal I, I learned how to take Gizmo's off of old cars. And we particularly like hood ornaments. And so my brother and I, we had a quite a collection of hood ornament as kids growing up because these cars where they would sit in the junk yard for a couple of years and then then they would get down, they would get burned and smashed with a bulldozer and shipped to Kansas City to the recycling farm. So by the time the cars got cash, you know, we we started seeing that as free range. So I tell people I'm afraid I benefit from being raised both on the farm and junkyard. Sounds actually pretty fun. Yeah, indeed. What kind of what kind of farming did they do? Was it mostly livestock or crops or. There we had them. We had after after a few years from the junkyard, then my dad started buying heavy construction equipment and and so we had bulldozers. So we cleared land and deadpans and built terraces and and worked with the NRC as a natural resource conservation because a lot of a lot of producers had access into partial payments. And in fact, that's where I probably first became involved or aware of the importance of extension. And but our farm was that was what we'd call today day in general family farm. So we had both crops and livestock and that is it. And because our shall we farmed with my grandparents. So my dad worked off the farm and he didn't really like farming. But so so my brothers and I actually did the farming with my mom, with my granddad. But we have both crops and livestock. Interesting. And that's a I guess that's pretty rare nowadays, isn't it, to have kind of diversified farming like that or the small family farm? Yeah, yeah. You know, that's been one of the big trends in native culture, of course, has been the movement toward specialization. But we had we had dairy cows, we had stock cattle, we had hogs and sheep and chickens, as well as primarily corn and soybeans. Although from time to time we would grow wheat or oats and and we had quite a bit of alfalfa and for for for hay, especially for the dairy cows and the high quality forage alfalfa. But but but our farm in those days was pretty typical. So so now that would been in the 60s and 70s. I would have been a pretty typical farm in. Missouri to have a mix of crops and livestock, and it was really started in the 70s that we've seen specialization take off. Yeah. And see that decline going on. Well, that's definitely something we want to talk about in probably just a few moments, too, but OK. Well, Paul, I want to ask you, where did you go to college and what did you study? Well, you know, coming from a small rural school, there was there was a regional college in Kirksville, Missouri. Those days was called Northeast Missouri State College, but now it's called Truman State. And that's about right about 30 miles from from where I was raised. But I wanted to get further away from home. I was afraid that if I didn't move out of the move away, that I'd be spending all my time on weekends and evenings. Not academic pursuits. No. So I just so I went to the University of Missouri, Columbia, and that in those days I didn't know, didn't know, I didn't know why the career opportunities might be. So I was I was an animal husbandry major. Now we call that animal science. But but my bachelor's degrees in animal husbandry and and I often toyed with the idea that that that I'd like to be a veterinarian. But the more I got into my studies, the more I discovered that that really wasn't my calling. It was in the fall of 1970. It was Kent State. And the shooting at Kent State protest were the spring of 1970. So I arrived on campus in August, just a few weeks after that, Kent State and all the anti-war protests. And they actually continued in the fall of 1970, which was quite an awakening for a farm kid from north Missouri. But but I needed to fulfill my social science requirements. And one semester I took two courses that actually ended up changing my career trajectory. I have a course over cultural economics on on rural poverty. And I took a course in rural sociology, introductory rural sociology, which also had a component of understanding rural poverty. And and those two courses appealed to my story in the inquiry, an interest in why people work hard and still remain poor. And so I went to my advisor and I said, you know, I really like this kind and material and this rural sociology. So so he encouraged me to take more courses. So I actually said, you know, I think you should stick with your animal science or husbandry focus. But I filled all my electives with that, with social science courses. And and gradually I began to understand that addressing the needs of people and the issues surrounding communities and social institutions and how people is far more interested in understanding pigs and cows. So, so. So I, I. Graduated, in fact, I was class president in the College of Agriculture in 1974, and I got acquainted with a number of the leaders in the college agriculture there at the zoo. And and they they they encouraged me that I should should think about graduate school. And so I ran into my major professor in graduate school with Bill Heffernan, who was a farm boy from from Apple TerraPower, Iowa. And he got his Ph.D. and Steve was council. And Bill Heffernan said, you know, he said, I think I think you really, really ought to pursue a master's degree. And so I was in the master's program there from seventy four to seventy six and got my master's degree. And the job market wasn't very good. And I was recently married and my wife was a registered nurse. So I decided this is as good a time as any to go and get my Ph.D., which I yeah. Continued then and graduated and essentially graduated with my Ph.D. in nineteen seventy eight. But I couldn't officially graduate because there was a hiring freeze at the University of Missouri and they would not hire one of their own Ph.D.. So I wrote my dissertation on the role of farmer cooperatives in agriculture and I just but I never turned my dissertation in because that would mean I would officially graduate and would have to leave it on the shelf for a couple of years. And then the job at Iowa State opened up in the fall of 1980. Iowa State had a position in rural development. And so I applied for that job and was fortunate enough to be hired. So I have this for 40 years. This this June 30 will work 40 years of being on the faculty at Iowa State. Wow, that is a long time to be there since 1980. Yeah, when I say 40 years, it does seem like a long time, but I have to pinch myself by how long it's been because it actually. They didn't seem that long. Really? I can't believe that my career is coming to an end this year and that sounds a little peculiar. I've even seen it sounds peculiar, but when I joined the faculty in nineteen eighty one, I was an undoubtedly cocky and arrogant and pretty disrespectful, you know, I would in faculty meetings and make certain that the old faculty members and then a few years ago I discovered that the young faculty were making fun of me. So really apparently seems like he seemed like he was a few years ago. So I came to Iowa State with a research extension appointment. So I was always an applied research and that's what I had done in graduate school. And then essentially in a post position at at the University of Missouri was doing grants and applied research. And so when this job opened up, it was really focused on rural development. And I had been doing things in soil conservation, a lot of a lot of interest in the late 70s on soil conservation. So this was a split appointment between research and. An extension of that position for one year, but I really didn't like I didn't like the job in my first year evaluation, and they asked me, like I said, because I miss having nineteen seventy eight, eighty nineteen eighty. I was teaching a lot of introductory rural sociology courses as I have as a lecturer. And and I missed the student engagement. So when when I proposed that I take care of my appointment for undergraduate teaching. So for roughly thirty eight of those years I, I had a 50 percent extension appointment, 30 percent of research and 20 percent teaching. OK, now skipping ahead in two thousand and. Two, I was named department chair of the Department of Sociology, and so I, I had an administrative appointment, so I had to give up some things. But I still continue to teach one undergraduate course a year or so from nineteen eighty two until 20. Quanti, so that so were so there was thirty eight years, I taught one course every year because I kept me in touch with students and I recruit students to the graduate program. I pick out my best undergraduate students and and try to encourage them to get a master's degree, just as I have been mentored by faculty. That's what I tried to do at Iowa State. Yeah. And that mentorship, that's really important to establish those connections. Yeah. And academia is sort of interesting. I don't know. A few years ago, we had an awards ceremony on in the department and one of the students, one of the students that received an honor of we always invite the honorees and their parents and her parents were students of mine early in my career. So that that was one of the indicators that have been around here a long time when you now have the second generation. So I thought, well, maybe it's time to retire before I have people coming in and saying my grandparents took classes from here before you get that far. Well, Paul, I got it. I got to follow up with you on this. I got to ask you. So let's go let's go back in time to those early faculty meetings for a second, if we could. Yes. So you had said that you were kind of cocky. Yeah, do you think you were cocky or did you just see them as sort of old fashioned and maybe kind of stuck in the mud or kind of thing? Well, some of both. You know, some some of both. You know, I since I was such I was not from a family of academics, neither one of my parents went to college. So some of it was is that I really didn't understand the academic world very well. I mean, we were talking about a working class kid that that was fortunate after he had a Ph.D. So some of the some of the rituals and deference that people pay to senior faculty members that you're sort of acculturated to that that didn't that didn't impress me too much. And and I've always been pretty direct. If I thought something was nonsense, I I guess my grandmother used to say I didn't tolerate fools very well. Oh, so so some of it some of it was a class distinction, Mark, and some of it was, you know, probably a sense of what I call the itis OK. And many of us go through that. We we we get a B and and we think maybe we're a little we may be intelligent, but we may not have wisdom. And I look back on some of those sharp exchanges I had and I may have been right. Intellectually, I might have been right that it really wasn't didn't show much wisdom or emotional maturity. So I hope I've grown a little bit and that 40 years. But but I had a great faculty, the faculty that I joined at Iowa State, even with sharp disagreements, and they nurtured me and mentored me. And this time, sometimes I was a bit of a rebellious kid. But but I have to say, you know, much of the success that I've had in my career was because of the mentoring I had at the University of Missouri and the mentoring that I had at Iowa State. It was a caring community and still it. And I still maintain good ties with, of course, senior faculty that hired me. In fact, I just wrote an e-mail to one of them today. So I still keep close contact with with the emeritus professors. And now that I'm about to join their ranks, I guess we'll be peers again. United again. Yes. What do you think? Do you think that sort of class identity that you mentioned about not coming from an academic background, do you think that's something that's kind of informed your work as you've gone through your life? Well, it has, because. Many young people today don't have the experiences that I had, and I don't want to make it or I don't want to make it. I don't want to. This is not about poor Paul because I had a lot of advantages and I think make it. But but we had a small farm. There were six kids in our family. And, you know, I was raised in a junkyard, but I mention my dad had bulldozers, so. Is that as an undergraduate student? The farm wasn't big enough to support all of us. So I actually worked road construction in Iowa for two summers. I was a bulldozer operator. Well, on the last on the last segment of Interstate 35 in Franklin and Cigarroa County. So I was hired as a boy, Joe. So so but, you know, those life experiences, I think, shaped my view of the world and impose questions. My grandparents, I don't think there was any two people that worked harder than my grandparents and they were poor. But then I would see all the neighbors, one or two people worked hard to learn when I got into understanding and started studying this. And so I mentioned as a econ course on rural poverty, one of the one of the readings that we had was it was a small publication I put out by the Bureau of the Census Bureau of Commerce. I believe it was titled The People Left Behind in the mid 60s, the Johnson administration, the LBJ administration of the National Commission on Rural Poverty. And there and the summary of that report was called The People Left Behind, and that that book began to answer some of the questions I had about persistent poverty in rural places. And I think it was because of my upbringing that I could identify with poor people and understanding and really had an affinity for understanding that the. The implications of growing up poor now when I say I grew up poor by Vimy standards, I would not be poor because we had running water, indoor toilets, and we always had plenty of food. We always had automobiles. My family was never on on public assistance, and so one could say, well, you were working class, but you weren't impoverished. Like many unfortunate people are today. But, you know, I serve began to realize. How may be disadvantaged, I was in some ways, but advantaged in other ways. And I tell students and I've told I've I've sort of used my first example is played to your strengths. And if you have a particular understanding about class or race or ethnicity because of your family situation, play to your strengths. Well, that's what I did. I I knew rural culture. I lived it. I experienced it both being in a junkyard and on a farm and as a bulldozer operator and as a and as a musician. My family was involved in bluegrass music. And so you'd mentioned earlier that if they heard that I played music and that brought me into contact with old fiddlers and country musicians that played country music and bluegrass festivals. And so that all sort of culminated in maybe a special understanding awareness of the role of our culture. We talk about culture. We talk about attitudes, values, beliefs and behaviors that that maybe kids raised in suburban America or urban America. I have not experienced, so I think that gave me a certain advantage, and certainly when you look at the number of farm kids that get a Ph.D. in research and extension, that's a pretty small, pretty small swath of us right now. In fact, for a number of years, I was the only sociologist at the Iowa State campus that then had the credentials were being raised on a farm. Really? Yeah. Huh. And so my interest in agriculture and because I had a bachelors degree in animal husbandry that opened doors for me in interdisciplinary collaboration. So one looks through my reading, you see that I've written a lot that is focused on not just the discipline of a rural sociology, but that collaboration with agronomist, animal scientist, ag engineer, horticulturalist, because I at least had some understanding of the basics of agriculture. I might not know anything about corn breeding, but I understand the importance of hybrid seed corn or that, you know, I can understand farm finances. And I actually I actually took my prelim exams as my collateral field was in agricultural economics. And so I actually had many graduate courses in agricultural economics as I'd be in rural sociology, which which set me up well to interface with the ag economist early in my career at Iowa State, when we began to see financial crises coming toward us of the farm crisis of the 1980s. Right. Well, that's a really good segue to get into into your working life there at Iowa State as a sociologist. And, you know, to get the ball rolling. You know, I think one of the things one of the things that you're definitely recognized for at the university, and I would expect that with extension also is the creation of the Iowa Farm and Rural Life poll. Could you tell me when that started and basically what it is? Yeah, I started that. I started a poll of. My first year, nineteen eighty one, I began to lay the groundwork for it, but the first survey was in nineteen eighty two. Wow. And and I pattern that I wanted to create a long running longitudinal panel study of Iowa farmers. And so I said up and I worked very closely with the Iowa Department of Agriculture, with the National Statistics Service to draw a sample of farmers that we followed over time and keep the panel representative. We would add in the supplemental samples every year, but it was but methodologically it was set up for a long running survey, as is still in existence. J.R. Buckel is the director of the Iowa Farm Rural Life Polling. And I participated, saw more of a consultant now. So it's been it's been in existence since 1982. So, well, next year will mark 40 years of. And the background of that is when I got here nineteen eighty one, I felt I needed to get a better understanding of the state of Iowa. So I, I, I dived into the census of Agriculture and began to look at trends in Iowa's agriculture from the USDA secondary dataset. And it posed a lot of questions that I thought we really need to understand. What's going on and how do these changes affect the culture of agriculture? When I talk about agriculture as a sociologist, I focus on the culture, the values, beliefs, attitudes and behaviors that have producers. And I think the only way we're going to find out is to put together a survey and get their opinions, get their insights, measure their values and attitudes about the profound changes that are happening in agriculture. And what I should go back just a bit more. OK, because I was in graduate school. I was I was undergraduate with a 1972 Nixon was president, and we opened up trade with China. The Russians came in in 1972 and and bought up all the surplus grain and and and farm prices skyrocketed. Right. Those were the go go 70s. I know a lot of my classmates that I was an undergraduate with went back to farming because of the high profits in farming. My dad and and my father in law both bought new equipment to expand into farming during those go go years of record prices and that and that boom. Continued till about 1979, in 1979, Paul Volcker was chair of the Federal Reserve Board and it and Jimmy Carter was president and inflation was rampant. And we deregulated the banking industry. We eliminated fixed interest rates. So we allowed interest rates to move. And many farmers that were high in debt in the 1970s did not recognize what this signals. The October seven nineteen seventy, 1979 decision of the Federal Reserve Board to deregulate interest rates would have. And so I have been watching this and I could see how I felt when at the time I joined our state that we were carrying too much debt and farm incomes were sagging. You recall was that period of time. There was lots of discussion about the world food, the imminent world food crisis. There were bumper stickers in protest of the Arab OPEC cartel trade, trade, food for oil. And I could foresee in my limited crystal ball that our culture was in trouble and we had far more debt than we could service with farm income. And so the proposal I wrote was this was to get funding for the Iowa farm rural life. Paul was. If my projections are right, tough times are ahead, we need to be out there soliciting input from farm families. Well, that was fun. And so it was very timely because it was only in the early part of the 1980s that we've seen the bottom fall out of the farm economy. And I worked with extension and interdisciplinary teams across the state documenting the impact of financial hardship on farm families and rural communities. And we monitored the health of farm families and rural communities on that on that survey. As part of the rationale was not only should the survey help inform producers about what's going on or what we're concerned about, then it also allowed them to provide input directly back through extension to the experiment station. And so the last page of every question of every survey. Was a blank, was a blank sheet, and with one question, what topic should we include in next year's survey? Wow. And and over the years, I've got thousands of comments sometimes sometimes negative, that I've missed the mark. I didn't ask the right set of questions that many times I would I would get a bank, I'd get suggestions. And there's a survey of about 2000 Iowa farm families. And so they might. So I would always try to incorporate as much as I could in the following year. Here's what our farmers would like us to talk about. And so so it was both a dissemination tool, but it also was a feedback loop to help inform us as to what are on the minds of farm operators across the state. And so that project has been quite useful, both in terms of the research, but also extension and outreach. But it was I had to pull all that and going. That I spent a lot of time on the road in Iowa and across the Midwest talking about the implications of financial hardship on children and youth and families and communities and how this how these trends not only a financial hardship, but increased specialization in the big, big trends of commercialization or what some people would call industrialization, that man. So that project has been very successful. It was first by several other states. I'm not sure that there are any other states that are still continuing it, but I provided assistance to get back to Nebraska. Nebraska has a poll that's modeled after my project in North Dakota, but there were several states that that attempted to do what I was able to do here in Iowa to provide input to their researchers and also to help extension in planning intervention programs. Yeah, it's it's a remarkable poll. I mean, I think so many people get a Ph.D. or are still trying to get their footing underneath them. But, you know, you graduate, I guess, in eighty one and then by eighty two, you've created this this poll that's been around for 40 years. You know, it's an amazing thing. And, you know, it makes me wonder, Paul, you know, as a as a sociologist, you've done this poll or you're doing the poll and you're also looking back at, as you said, those go go 70s. You know, that whole what did they used to say, get big or get out back? And, you know, as one of the people that really kind of saw this, these storm clouds looming for the farm crisis, it makes me what was it like to be a sociologist during that time period, you know, during the farm crisis, as you're seeing this unfold? What was it like to be a sociologist who studies people and, you know, poverty or structural poverty and all these sorts of things? Almost like? Well, you know, I oftentimes describe myself as a as a. As almost an island in a big ocean, I had lots of people interested, but nobody wanted to be very close. And part of the problem was, is that sometimes I was bringing bad news. And and that's one of the things that people don't like to hear. So on the other hand, I gained a lot of respect because I called it like I see it. And I would always say, you know, this is what Iowa farmers are telling us using the best methodology that I can if you aggregate these numbers. Here's what they tell us. But that sometimes the message so I was was not well received on this. And oftentimes people would use the forum poll in very creative ways to justify what they were doing. I testified before Congress on two or three occasions and I was a consultant with with the federal and state agencies. I worked very closely with the Department of Health and Human Services, and they could use those data to justify increased appropriations for the Rural Concerned Hotline, which was established in nineteen eighty five was. Was in part justified by the data from the Iowa farm or online poll out that that real concern hotline is still in existence. And unfortunately, this past year, because of covid and languishing farm prices, has received increased numbers of calls from farm families. And you may have seen. These are up this year and the cultural concern and I serve on the farm economy task force yet, and we still those those those insights from the poll provide us at least a glimpse, a snapshot of what's unfolding that I again, I have the advantage in that that I, I as I say, I do farm talk right now. I was a product of that culture and oh, you know, coming from Missouri. And some people have indicated that I have somewhat of a girl and I think maybe it's just their bad hearing. But I. I had the benefit that that may be more what I'd say, classically trained rural sociologist without an understanding of rural, would have been somewhat disadvantaged. Yeah, I could definitely see that. I mean, you definitely spent a lot of time, I guess, in that sort of filled work scenario, as you had said, driving around, but also the academic side. You know, how did the how did the farm crisis affect your scholarship? Well, you know, I don't know. I oftentimes said out of tragedy, you know, you try to you try to build things. And so, I mean, you know, I always had a minority, a point maybe in scholarship, but I I wrote a lot of extension Boltons and and I was honored several years ago with something over 200 publications. So, I mean, I've had a very productive career because it's because I was able to use not only the farm poll of economics, of farming, but but when I look back over the initiatives that I've been involved in, of an interdisciplinary effort, because what I really was focused on, what I really. In fact, I just had a discussion last week with a former graduate student and colleagues that are going to be I hope to be extending some of the research I did was I understand the relationship between the structure of farming and the viability of rural communities. And it really was in that nexus between production, agriculture and rural living that and that was so my earlier publications. And and, you know, I'm still I'm still dabbling in that area of the issue of that recently. So I wrote an article six or eight years ago about the importance of having a third crop. And I believe the third crop in Iowa needs to be the perennial crop. It ought to be something called grass. And I am not talking about marijuana. I'm talking about raising cattle. We need more cattle. We need more forage is being raised in Iowa. So we have cattle industry. And because we're farming a lot of steep slopes in Iowa and fragile soils and conservation should, it should be a higher priority. So I wrote an article on the importance of cattle to rural development, which I wrote them. Are you really talking about creating jobs? Right. We really need a cattle industry in Iowa that can take advantage of grazing on those steep slopes that really should not be plowed. And, you know, I've been involved with a lot of minimum tillage research, but that ground would be far better off and never be plowed into Beetle, even if they're using minimum tillage. It's it's erosion prone. So I begin, I think well, it's easy for me to say, well, gee, what nice successful. You know, my success really is a result of collaboration and working across disciplinary boundaries and and and ah, and I really never cared whether people referred to me as a sociologist or a rural sociologist. I know several years ago I was introduced as a world sociologist. I enjoyed I enjoyed that title for a few days. And there and then No. One one time the Ames Tribune interviewed me. I remember what the topic was, but but there I was identified as a rural socialist. I enjoyed that title. But what I really wanted was academic disciplines were far less important to me than addressing the needs of the people who pay our salaries. And I and it's the people of Iowa that deserve our attention. And I always put emphasis on their paying taxes to support Class one college and extension. And we we need to provide as a service driven organization, we need to be there to serve them. And that's where EXT steps in, I guess, yeah, different than other academic institutions. Yeah, yeah. Where he says to publish an article to get another article published last several years since I've been on this downward closure of my career that have published another article is not near as important as addressing the pressing needs of rural people. Right. I hope you still remain active. In fact, I was working this morning. I'm going to be working with a colleague in Minnesota. We're going to be doing a workshop in April. We have about 60 churches in northern Wisconsin on the impact of Coalbed on their long term sustainability. So I yeah, I hope to be able to continue to help where I can where that. But I'm not yeah, I'm not out there beating the bushes for another job as much as if I can be of service to people that made my career successful. Well, I'd like to be that. Yeah, well, you know, Paul, with all the work you've done in real life, you know, what kind of changes have you witnessed in rural communities over the last 40 years? You know, looking back on it, I mean, it should be probably a big transformation over those decades. Yes, you tell them that. And there's several things. First of all, I was born in 1952, so I'm right in the midst of the post-World War baby, the baby boomer, those persons born between 1946 and 1964. You that so I'll be sixty nine this year. And the change demographics of that baby boomer cohort, we we have never fully appreciated or recognized the impact of World War Two on the structure of rural America. There are several things that happen as a result of World War Two that set in motion the agricultural revolution that we still are fully comfortable with. So what happened? Nineteen, nineteen forties, we drafted a lot of young men out of rural America and off farms. They got training in the military never to return. They took up urban occupations. But the other thing that happened as a direct impact because of labor scarcity is we started mechanization on a big scale. We look back and farm equipment. In the 1940s, it would be modest size. Most farms in the state were three hundred or less acres. And so you ended up with a couple of farm families on on every section of land, in some cases even maybe four families on the sectional. But ag mechanization of growing up on a farm. I think the largest horsepower tractor we had was forty five horses with forty five horse tractor. I remember when the first hundred horse tractor came. Today we talk about tractors with 400 to 600 horse. We planted corn with a Foro planner. Today they plant twenty four rows are thirty rows. We had we put anhydrous ammonia on with with them point at tomorrow night. Today I suppose our use of eight or 10 or 20 knives and the increased productivity has certainly made us the envy of the world, but at considerable cost to the number and size of farms. As we've seen, farm numbers continue to shrink because of the economies of scale. And as a result, there's been an enormous increase, for the most part, an enormous outmigration. And that was one of the things that troubled me greatly during the 1980s as farm families were forced out of business and so many young people were encouraged to go off to college and don't plan on coming back to the farm. We lost another entire generation of young people. And I point out today if we would retain those young people in the nineteen eighties and kept them in Iowa, Iowa would look today because now, 30 some years later, those young people left for careers in California, Texas, Colorado. They would be middle aged, they would have children in our schools, and so what we've seen is a dramatic outmigration of rural people, but we've also seen. Lots of suburbanisation of now, there are more people living in towns and cities and in the countryside. So why we're still a major farm state. The majority of our population lives in urban Iowa. And you see the consequences of those demographic shifts in the number of schools with no viable social institutions in rural communities. We're talking about rotary clubs or garden clubs or churches or rural hospitals, the outmigration of people. In fact, I used to I used to teach undergraduates. I would I would ask my students to show hands how many had a high school built in the last 10 years, no matter what anybody where they can go up. And then I would ask, how many of you have had new senior center or senior citizen housing built in the last ten years and two thirds of hands would go up? I say, see, this is the consequence of demographic change it brings in. Yeah, you know, it makes me wonder, Paul, as you were teaching these past 40 years, do you see more students from out of state nowadays than you used to when you first started studying from other places? Yeah, a lot more. You know, there were there were junior college culture, too big changes. One was the increased number of women that just elected college culture majors in undergraduate females were were very scarce. And when I came here, you know, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I'm guessing it was around 10 percent of the women in the college culture or students were women. I think today it's actually slightly more than 50 percent. Wow. Interesting. So so that's been one trend, the increase in the number of women and the also the increased number of suburban students. One time when I was was planning my career, most of the young people were from farms or small towns. Mm hmm. And I'm guessing that may be down around half today. And then and then, of course, the training of engineers and state students, the classes that I've taught the last three years, I'd say twenty to twenty five percent from out of state. And that's because we've been aggressively recruiting in Minnesota, Illinois. That used to be hubs, but. Yeah, but yeah. And that that certainly change brings in both good and bad, bringing new ideas, different ethnicities, different cultures, different ways of looking at things, different values and beliefs, because that also brings about the need to have a better understanding of the rural urban divide. Yeah. That is so sharp in our country right now. You're talking about the rural urban divide. Do you think it's much more accentuated now than it was when you started 40 years ago? Yeah, yeah. There's several things that contribute to that. But one of the things that happened is that. Thirty years ago, even those from the city were first or second generation removed from the farm, so they may not be raised on farm, but they had an appreciation and understanding of rural. You know, maybe they spent the summers with their grandparents or they can hear stories of their parents growing up on a farm. But as we get further and further removed, there's less and less understanding about it. And so that's that's that's one piece. The is I think it actually and I wrote an article, I guess, last fall through the conversation, the publication called The Conversation, trying to explain the rural urban disparity in votes in Iowa. And I pulled back to my undergraduate, the people left behind. One of the reasons that we see angry people, especially in rural electorates, is because they feel like they've been left behind. They still are struggling to make ends meet, but they look they look to suburban and urban Iowa, suburban urban America, and they see that those places are growing and their community is declining or dying. And there's widening inequality, I think accounts for or large number of feeling that they've been left behind. And this is unfair of which brought me back to why I became a rural sociologist. If people will perceive that they are not getting a fair shake or fair opportunities over time, they begin to resist that. And they see that policies are crafted by suburban legislators or the elections are determined by suburban and urban voters who think they're losing their voice. And I see that I even see that at the national level, the growing inequality is fueling all this polarization and we have to address it. Yeah, I guess that's the big question. What ideas do you have, how how could. What could Iowans do to address that, at least that belief that they're getting the short end of the stick? Yeah, well, I think one of the things you have to do is you have to, first of all, recognize our interdependency, that Des Moines, Waterloo, the Quad Cities wouldn't exist if it wasn't for farming. And much of farming depends on the success of those urban areas that we're we we have we are in this together. And so we really have to look at what I would call comprehensive reform, that this is an urban issue. So take, for example, employment. Setting aside this Koven year, Iowa has had relatively low unemployment. Part of that is because so many, so many people left in search of employment elsewhere. We have oftentimes thought about why did why did our ancestors move to Iowa? They moved Iowa for opportunities. And I don't think that I think the same is true today. We have to create opportunities so that young people see a future in a small town. And one way to do that, you know, the railroad was a was a terribly important in the early settlement. The interstate highways were important. Mm hmm. Today, it's Internet. It'll be very difficult to run a business today without adequate Internet. And we need Internet connectivity so that so that small stores where they're on Main Street or small farms in the countryside have access to the best information. Their kids can do their homework, they can develop markets. That's why I was talking to one of my colleagues last week about. Value added agriculture and doing more of production processing in rural Iowa, and the point I tried to make with him is that the Internet is so critical as more and more people whose Internet to buy goods and services, you're going to compete in the world. You've got to have high speed Internet service reliable. And when we look at when we look today at the future of climate change, we've got so many of our towns that are vulnerable to volatile weather conditions that we really ought to be serious about implementing a civilian conservation corps to help communities prepare for flooding. Given the snowfall we've had this winter, I would guess in the spring we're going to see those communities go back under water. Yeah, there's going to be a lot that looks like there may well be. But, you know, we ought to be free. We need to be creative, as people were in the 1930s, of putting young people to work in conservation. There are so many important issues about climate change and how we might transition away from fossil fuels to electric. When you look when you look at. And the wind turbines across the state, I don't know how many young people have careers in that right. But but to continue to grow and we need we need to figure out ways to use locally generating power how to store it. I think that the future of electricity is very bright. I can see down the road not very many years that farm equipment will be will be electric. We have 18 wheelers on the highway today that are all electric vehicles. I can see down the road, not very far down the road. Electric companies like tractors, electric automobiles. And are you pretty optimistic about the future? Yeah. Yeah, because, you know, I think I told you last time we talked, I'm out here in desert in Arizona and I see solar farms all over the valley and they're not raising cotton. They're they're raising electricity. They're covering with air. And because of the growth market, you know, I, I look each producer in Texas or I see look at all the opportunity is going to be to rebuild Texas so that it's more sustainable. But but even in the desert, people talk about all the people from California that's moving to the desert because of over congestion and the lack of opportunities. And they see that there are better opportunities in Arizona than in Southern California. Yeah. Or even in Iowa. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, my great people will migrate where there's opportunities and that increased mobility is something that's pretty recent. Look back. Historically, people settled in and the Midwest and their their whole lives. And maybe that was a commitment to the family and local community. But people are much more mobile today. And and as a result of the increased mobility, we don't see those long multigenerational family ties maybe we did half a century ago. Yeah, it's such an interesting point to make. I mean, thinking about the history of Iowa where immigration was so important, immigration with and I was so in bringing people in and now over the I don't know how long it's been, but at least over a decade, I would guess, is that downward trend of losing a population. We've something to be turned around. Yeah, we've been exporting people. And and I said all along that was a bad omen. Now I look back now and circle back around to Queen City, Missouri, where I was raised my on both sides of my family. They were early settlers in Scotland County, six and seven generations. So I had five brothers and a sister. None of them stayed in Scotter County. I say, you know, maybe they would have maybe Scott McCartney would have been better if there had been opportunities for either me or my siblings, maybe not all of us, but one or two or three. But I, I, I occasionally have Zoome calls with my classmates from the class of 1970, and there was sort of a core of about six of us. One lives in Bloomington, Illinois, one Sarasota, Florida, two in Kansas City and one in Mexico, Missouri. And they're now. Two or three of them still have aged parents who live back in our home community. But as I've posed the question, how was Queen City been better off if some of us would have stayed and bought farms or started small businesses, if there had been economic opportunity so that we can make a living in Queen City, Missouri, home and and only use it because I know it like the back of my hand. But I know that same story is true for all of Iowa's eight hundred and forty towns, the population of less than 5000 rural towns in Iowa, they've all experienced. Now there's a few there may be a few exceptions where you have small towns that are growing because of particular amenities around resorts or lakes or natural attractions. Now, but by and large, most rural towns in Iowa are farm dependent. And there's not the farm population to support Main Street as there was a half century ago. Right. You know, it's really interesting because a few moments ago you brought up a value added. And it kind of makes me think that, you know, here in Iowa, we grow citizens and then they go somewhere else. You go to and other places reap the benefits of all the the work that we did to kind of grow them and nurture them. And they get the rewards for it. Yep, yep. And I see that I am so acutely aware of that here in Arizona, where there are so many islands that have been left out and the state is now I'm not suggesting that we build a wall around Iowa and now we have to stay there. People are much more mobile. And so and that started this fight started with the World War two young soldiers not coming back to Iowa, but they went off. We got VA, GI Bill, they got educated and they went off to the cities and put down roots. And we seen that in the 1980s as a farm crisis. Young people left the state. And once they leave and they start having children and children enrolled in schools, it's very hard to attract them back, right? It does happen from time to time. And in fact, when it happens, oftentimes it makes the news. But somebody somebody from Oregon moved back home and took over the family farm or somebody from that Silicon Valley has moved back to Jefferson, Iowa. And the fact that that makes the news tells you how unusual it is. Yeah, I guess it does, doesn't I? I can actually think of instances where I've seen that. Yeah. People I've known. Yeah. That's kind of a big deal that somebody has come back into back into town or something like that. Right. Right. See that tells you then what the dominant trend is. Most people leave never to return. And. And as a result. The social institutions that contributed to their success were that before age clubs or Vogue clubs or the high school or the Methodist church, whatever we're going to say is worse off right now. We could put a tax on them that we can say to California, OK, you've got to pay X many dollars if you. Attract and I will use, you know, show Silicon Valley. But but, you know, look, we get so we implemented. Part of it is I think we have failed to see how large scale demographic and economic trends shapes where people live, and we prepared ourselves to make it attractive. And so part of the Rural Development Initiative is not just about jobs. Jobs are important, but it's about quality of life, right, that people are want to move to places where there are amenities, that cultural activities, health care facilities, recreational opportunities, and, you know, central Iowa has done better. More recently, in recognizing that biking is such an important part of the recreational community and the bike trails, I oftentimes point to that as an example that people pooh poohed that in general, people riding a bicycle. The fact is, you can look at the bike trails around central Iowa, the number of restaurants and bars and have those small communities on those trails have benefited from years ago, replaced Maytag and Newton. No, but but it spread those benefits out. And, you know, probably Minnesota has been ahead of us in terms of recognizing the value of tourism dollars. And certainly Missouri has, with its strong emphasis on tourism development. In some ways, we were maybe content to say, you know, we are a very productive agricultural land. We don't have to worry about those things. The problem is, is that not only a farmer's got larger and more mechanized and creating fewer jobs and the next technological revolution will be autonomous vehicles that are guided by robots and satellites in which there may be fewer. Jobs out there for people. Yeah, it's such an interesting thing, isn't it? It's almost like we're always addressing, like maybe we were like a decade behind the things we're trying to fix in. And it goes things are just always kind of changing. We're only kind of talking about something maybe 10 years than the past, you know. Yeah. And some of that show that is that. When I say it's hard to be worried about draining the swamp when you're deep in alligators and we've been in so many we've been we've been surrounded by so many alligators that we've really not sat back and took a long term view about how we might drain the swamp. Right. But, you know, but it's going to recognition. The rural urban divide in Iowa is very distracting because we're only a state of three million people. And if it weren't for international immigration into the state, we'd be actually declining more rapidly than we are. But, you know, three million people spread across the state of Iowa. There's a number of towns and cities in America is larger than the entire state of Iowa. And and divided house is is not good for rural or so. We really need to get over this rural urban and talk about how. The prosperity of Des Moines or Cedar Rapids or Water or Council Bluffs can help rural places and likewise allow these urban places are very dependent upon rural workers to commute in and out downtown Des Moines. A classic example. They employ a lot of people who live in the small towns, the Huxley's, The Maxwells, the columns poke cities. Right. And he tells me that I'm thirty five in the traffic. That's right. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so part of that so that that's what I hope to sort of bring awareness on. The part of my scholarship is this interdependency between rural and urban. Yeah, well, you know, that's a good segue way to kind of wrap things up with our conversation, because I want to ask you this. You know what what advice would you have for someone new that was coming in to a joint appointment like you have with sociology and extension? What kind of advice would you give them today? Well, a couple of things. One is, even if you are raised in a rural if you want to be a rural sociologist. You need to you need to interact with rural people. I've often told people that I thought I could actually be a pretty good urban sociologist because I know nothing about urban America. But if I would have if I would have moved to Chicago or Detroit or St. Louis and was given the assignment to go out there and figure out what the needs the people are, I think I could handle it. But it would require me to develop a new language, to be able to speak where people are at, but maybe more importantly, develop good listening skills. You got to have those. You've got to have good academic training. But you also have to have a strong commitment to those that you're going to be working with, a commitment that understands there need to be able to speak their language, to hear their voices. The most successful sociologist that I've known and I've known a number of over the years always have the ability to listen. And then you go back to the lab and you develop methodology to study the question. But the first step for a good social scientist. Is to get a good handle on what local people are concerned about, and you do that by engaging with them, spending time in their homes or on their farms or in their businesses and listening to their needs, and then go back to the laboratory to design a teaching module or the research designed to answer their questions. And they're taking it back to them and say, well, you know what, I spent the last several weeks in the library. Here's what the literature says. Or here's what the data, the secondary data. Now, let's take this and shape this into what it says about how we can develop this section of town or address the inequality in your community. So it's showing I think some of it is a dedication, a commitment to the clients. And I never defined my clients as the academic journals. You know, I've got I've got high prestige journal articles that probably have been read by a dozen or fewer people, but they're in the right journals. You know, one newspaper article or one column in a newspaper that's read by a thousand people is far more important to me than a journal article that's read by a dozen of my colleagues have been cited in the literature. Right. So I never defined the academic journals as my client or my client were always the people I was working with. Do you think some academics have trouble kind of dropping the whole jargon academics up relating to people? Yeah, yeah, they do. They were raised in the junkyard and weren't raised not ever drove the bulldozer. Well, it's never too late to get them out there. Yeah. You know, but but I think if they had some class experiences, you know, I'm not saying it's not it's not easy. It's not easy to do those things, you know, because oftentimes we. We've been told since we were youngsters that we were smart and one of the things we have to do is dispel the notion that intelligence and wisdom at the same time, it's not you know, and I talked earlier about probably I was sort of like a ball that China shop, because I've been told ever since I was a little guy how smart I was and not by everybody. Some people said I was a smart ass, but but, you know, I was encouraged to pursue academics, although I actually had no intention. I've ever gone to college and my dad had a pretty successful. Construction company, we had been been land, we acquired quite a bit of land and I was 15 years old till I wasn't going to college, I got around bulldozers and rummies farms and my granddad and I were real close and and but I became allergic to be. My dad died when I was 15 years old from a bee sting and went into anaphylactic shock and then died. And the doctors told me, you cannot be out there running no bulldozers and you need to go to college. Wow. And and that's all the reason I went to college. I can't say it was divine inspiration where you very bright. You have a visual, but I'm interested. Sometimes I joke that I really was a pretty good student. Three things happened that kind of got me off the rails. It was the smell of gasoline, perfume and rock and roll music. Growing up in my late teens, I was more interested in fast cars, women and music. And I was an academic and outgrew that. But but. But there's an element of truth to that. These things is what? Changed my career trajectory. And so that's why I went off to college. Well, it's a really interesting to take your perspective, you know, when you look back on it to talk back to a bee sting. But yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was that near-death experience. So I continued to run bulldozer's after that. But I always and in fact, I still came here and I still can. But but I but I could work in Iowa on road construction. I thought that was safer than clearing brush. And Missouri Hills. Yeah. Fewer bees. And I'm not having more problems than, you know, of course I've been through desensitisation twice, but that it wasn't divine. Providence is a damn beast. Yeah. Well, how about that? Well, Paul, I'm going to we need to wrap this up, but I wanted to thank you so much for your service to Iowa and all the work you've done with extension. And we put this project together to really kind of recognize all the work that people like yourself have done over the years. Well, it's it's it's an honor to be involved in the project. And I look forward to hearing the story from my other colleagues. You mentioned Jack Vandeleur, and there's a bunch of them out there that that I worked with over and over a 40 year period. And I like to say what modest success I've had is because I was surrounded by good colleagues. And I think and that's a part that I think I'm going to miss the most is in retirement. I hope to be able to stay connected to my colleagues and friends. And some of them are quite old. And I keep in contact with that, that that I know they share some of those same feelings of social isolation. So I applaud the effort that you and others are doing to put this project together. And I look forward to reading the results. Well, so do I. Well, Paul Paul, if you don't mind, could you stay on the line just for a second and I'm going to stop recording and I'll be right back with you in just one second, Paul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1725/collection_resources/55899/file/130166#t=0.0,5195.922"}]}]}]}