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Before we get to tonight's speaker I'd just like to mention two new additions to the lecture's calendar. First is the day we get back from break Monday December 1st at 6:00 PM. As part of our presidential candidates series we have John Kerry at 6:00 PM on Monday the 1st in this room, and then John Edwards on December 3rd which is a Wednesday at 8:00 PM in this room as well. This evening we have Sandra Olewine. As a Methodist pastor Sandra Olewine works with Christmas Lutheran church in Bethlehem at the International Center an outreach ministry of that church. She has served through the general board of Global Ministries as the United Methodists liaison to Jerusalem since December 1996. Communicating concerns of the church to Jerusalem and Palestine Israel to the UMC worldwide. Through the UMC visits program and the joint Justice Education Program in partnership with Catholic Relief Services and the Presbyterian Church, she has accompanied hundreds of pilgrims and others on tours and engaged peoples of the three religions. She has written extensively on the current situation and published numerous articles in magazines and newspapers. And without further ado please join me in welcoming Sandra Olewine.\r\n\r\n- It's a short crowd I feel like I'm gonna be playing tennis here, watching it going back and forth but well I'd like to do the C.V just give you a little bit again of sort of why I am there living in Israel Palestine and what's the extent of my work has been over these last seven years. And then to give you an overview of where we are currently in the situation primarily both trying to look at it from Israeli perspectives as well as Palestinian perspectives. And then lastly we look at where are some elements of hope. The question for the or the title of the talk was given as 'Is Peace Possible?' And so I would like to at least try to somehow address that throughout the various three segments of the talk as we go through tonight. So what is this United Methodist doing, living in a place where we don't actually have any churches out of my own denomination. In the mid 1980s the heads of the Christian communities in the Holy Land sent a letter out to Mitch, to many of the leaders of the church and the rest of the world. And in that letter they said, \"Millions of your people come here every year on pilgrimage. \"They come and they run where Jesus walked. \"They rushed from holy site to holy site, \"and they get back on their plane \"and they've had a wonderful experience \"and have never figured out \"that there was actually people living in this land today. \"They don't know that there are Christians \"who live in this land, \"they don't know that the Christian community \"is primarily Palestinian \"and they don't know that that means \"that we are a church living with the reality \"and under the reality of occupation. \"They also don't meet with Israelis or Palestinians \"regardless of background or social perspective \"or political reality so that when they leave \"they don't have any sense about how they might participate \"with us in trying to be a part of searching \"for how we can create a just durable \"and secure peace for the two peoples \"of the three traditions that call this place home.\" So a variety of the church communities took that plea really very seriously and began to set up various kinds of positions to have people on the ground in Jerusalem help facilitate those kinds of experiences. And so when I went in December of 1996, I went initially with the Middle East Council of Churches, under the office of the United Methodist Church to begin this process of getting people off the tour bus. Getting folks down on the streets, the alleyways to go to visit Jewish settlements to be in Palestinian refugee camps to be in universities in both communities to deal with human rights workers, peace movement folks, political leadership, really across and the religious leadership across a wide variety of spectrums and political outlooks and energies. And again the idea of that was to try to help visitors who came to have an expansion of their exposure to the issues on the ground, to the people to have some better understanding of their daily life and the kinds of issues that they faced in just trying to get up in the morning and to complete daily activities. And hopefully through the people and the programs that they were visiting that they would leave there inspired Inspired to come back to their home countries to figure out that they could be a part of this network of people who are seeking to truly build a just and durable peace in the region. And through wordings of church language to become Peace With Justice Evangelist in their home places. It became more ecumenical in 1999 as we moved out of the Middle East Council of Churches to also work with Catholic Relief Services and the Presbyterian Church USA in this multi lateral kind of sharing of this work to again to continue to encourage people to be off the tour bus. And when the Intifada began, now most of you may know that the word Intifada is an Arabic word it means rising up, or more poetically is to shake off the chains that bind you. When that's began in September of 29th of 2000, obviously almost immediately the tourism and the visitors dropped off dramatically. If you had come on one of our student's trips or one of the church trips that we helped to run, and you had been with us in Bethlehem on the 25th of September of 2000 we would have waited two hours outside of the churches activity to get in because number of crowds of people waiting to come into while visiting. Literally a week later if you would come, there would've been no one. Initially that was because back when they declared a closed military zone so the visitors that were still coming because they couldn't cancel the trips couldn't get in and then groups began to cancel and so that to date almost no regular visitors that are coming on any type of tourism or visits to the region. And so with that change it meant how do we continue to communicate the situation on the ground when the primary method of doing that was through these visits and dialogue with people in both Israeli and Palestinian communities. And so as Omar mentioned I began to do a fair amount of writing through an email network, not only stories of my own that I was writing from the perspective of what I was seeing on the streets around me across whether in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, Haifa in Gaza in Bethlehem Novelis wherever in the area but also began to send out articles that were written by Palestinians and Israelis that I felt would help give people an insight into the conflict and what was happening that would be different than maybe what they were getting in standard media news coverage here, particularly in the United States. I tried to do particularly those with the pieces that were particularly good at an analyzing a particular part of the ongoing conflict that I thought again would help stretch people's knowledge and understanding of the complexities, so that again they would have some sense of how they might participate in the efforts to bring a conclusion to the conflict. Let me end there with sort of was just my work and let's get into the crisis itself. Obviously the last three years has meant a huge change in the life of everyone in living in Israel or Palestine. Let me begin first by looking at some of the changes have happened in the Israeli society and then look at those in the Palestinian society. If you look at the Israeli society today I think one of the overarching realities for many Israelis is a sense of deep insecurity and fear. Over the last three years in particular in the last year and a half, with the increasing number of suicide bombings and attacks on Israelis the increased level of insecurity and fear has really risen to be a very predominant factor in sort of the social life of many Israelis. People of course are very nervous and frightened from going to any sort of public space, whether it be restaurants to shopping malls, to being on the beach to riding on buses. Of course one of the realities in Israel is that there are only public bus system and so that parents who send their kids to school on buses there is a soldiers and everyone else on those same buses and so the sense of fear for parents as they send their children off to school every day is will someone happen to explode themselves on the bus that they are riding on. And so there's a great deal of trepidation for people because of the reality that they have lived with in these last particularly again the last year and a half. There has been Israelis have varied just short of 950 people in the last three years. 25% of those who have been killed in the conflict to this time have been children. There was a very I think a very helpful poll though that came that has showed the level of this insecurity in Israeli society. Just before I went it was published in a number of Israeli papers. There was a poll taken of Israelis living inside Israel not those persons living in the settlements in the West Bank or the Gaza strip so just those living within Israel 1948. And there 65% of the people polled in that particular poll said that they supported the abandonment of the settlements in the West Bank in Gaza as a means of reaching a final solution with the Palestinians. Now that's been a fairly consistent number of Israeli society from anywhere from 50 to sort of 60-65% has been a very common number for over 12 years. And polls inside the folks inside Israel itself is at 48. But in the same poll 65% of the people said they also were supporting the Sharone government's manner of handling the current crisis. Which seems at one level to be somewhat disconnected because under the government currently has made an expansion of settlements an expansion of bypass roads expansion certainly of the security wall that is being built. The security wall is Israeli's private, we'll talk about how the Palestinians find it later. And so that it's meant in many ways a deepening of the occupation and deepening and broadening of the settlements and so that seems to be just supposed to say, \"We want to get rid of them,\" but yet at the same time support the government that has continued to expand them. But I think it was helpful for me as I realized, I think the reality of how insecure Israelis feel right now on their city streets it's really heightened As we are shown by that poll. There was a sense of where people are willing to go to end the conflict to try to find a resolution, but also in the present moment demanding from our government a sense of security so that they're not fearful and until they have that not knowing how to get from here to there. If you look at the political structures in Israel right now I think one of the other realities is that currently, there is not an alternative political vision for the Israelis of how to get from where they are now to a different way of handling the conflict. There are two major parties in Israel, numerous other parties the two major parties are the Likud and the Labor. And the Labor Party which has always been sort of primary opposition party to Likud these two have gone back and forth throughout the years of Israeli history, is really a complete disarray at this point. There isn't any one person in the Labor Party that has sort of the ability or the energy to captivate people and to provide an alternative vision for how the Israeli government might deal with the current situation. And so that people are left with what they have currently now. If there are people are asking all the time is there a will a political will to solve the conflict. And I think you have to say that under the current Israeli government structure that there isn't a political will to solve the conflict because there's still a belief that they can win the conflict. And this was made fairly clear, right after Prime Minister Sharon was elected in January of 2001 and again, as he was reelected last fall, one of the first things that appeared in the papers the day after were quotes in the Israeli press, they were translated into the English papers that said that his goal was to crush the Palestinians so that they would surrender and that they would then accept the terms dictated to them which is a fairly common way of looking at a conflict you have a winner and a loser and if you win you get to dictate the terms to the loser on the conflict. And I think that that's still very much the reality. There was some hope by many when Prime Minister Sharon first mentioned the fact that he would be supportive of the Palestinian state but as the details of that state that he's been willing to support to far as come out and been publicized, it has not looked much like a state but more nationalization of the West Banks for separate colonies with a whole lot of restrictions on the Palestinian's control with the Israelis continue to control such things as water and borders and immigration in and out. So on the Israeli side its the same we are living very much with the sense of a real fear of the insecurity and public spaces the grief over the loss of the 950 people with 25% being children and a political sort of the impasse in many ways. Now there's been some new things happening in the last just the last few days with just to publish this weekend, where four former members or directors of Shin Bet which is the sort of similar to the police the head of security police in Israel who have come out in strong criticism have actually shown government's policy of handling the current crisis and actually have said that they think the less president Arafat is included in a peace agreement that there'll be no way to end this and that time is running out and they need to really get back to serious work to find the end of the conflict. Let me look to the Palestinian side for just a moment. Palestinians are also living under a great deal of daily fear and insecurity. In fact there's not an element of Palestinian life that hasn't been turned upside down in these last three years. Let me just try to step through some of the things that people have experienced and are experiencing today in the territories, so that you have a sense of what some of those things are. Almost immediately after the beginning of the Intifada, a number of things began to happen, one of them was the increase presence of manned checkpoints. These are checkpoints that are manned by either the border police or the Israeli military on roads inside the Palestinian territories inside the West Bank oftentimes between Palestinian cities and between Palestinian towns and villages. These were in addition to the ones that already existed between Palestinian Territories and Israel proper itself. A new phenomena came with those which were the presence of the unmanned roadblock. These roadblocks are built of either layers of dirt over large concrete blocks sometimes debris, sometimes includes a trench dug through the road to prohibit any kind of movement through vehicles back and forth across various different roads. There's about 280 of these in current reality across the West Bank in particular. And so that these roadblocks in conjunction with the checkpoints has completely disrupted any kind of movement from area to area. Let me give you an example. If you were to travel from Nablus to Ramallah which would normally take you well if I drove you'd take an hour and a half, if a Palestinian drove you it'd take an hour and 10 minutes. I drive a lot slower so, but today to make that journey can take you anywhere from four hours to eight hours. And you can change your vehicle as many from four to eight times to have to get out of the car, climb over the roadblock sometimes walk just to the other side of the roadblock there'll be another shared taxi you can get into. Sometimes you have to walk 100 feet, sometimes a mile and a half to get to another roadblock and climb over and then get into another vehicle of some sort and continue on. Another example if you were to come from the village in the North Zababdeh which is just at the very top of the West bank and you want again to come to Ramallah, could take you again under normal circumstances about two and a quarter hours, two and a half hours to get there, today you can take as many as 12 hours. And you can change a vehicle 22 times. So this means of course that no matter what you're doing if you have to go for school if you're going to work if you're trying to get to the doctor's, if you trying to get to visit family, whether you're young, old, handicapped, carrying children, groceries, materials you have to get out and do this moving and so climbing over the roadblocks to get from place to place. A few months into the Intifada also meant that the tanks the Israeli tanks were stationed on the outside of the various Palestinian cities and that would begin the process particularly between late October 2000 up until late part of 2001 would mean that with oftentimes in many parts of the West Bank have likely shelling of those tanks into cities with also machine gun fire and many times the Apache helicopters shooting missiles. Now there was times of course that there were Palestinian men who are shooting either towards the soldiers or possibly towards settlements that would then initiate thus the Israelis responding with very heavy firepower, other times Israelis started first and then some Palestinians would shoot back so it's a sort of ongoing but at all times, the extent of the so firepower by the Israelis was astronomically large in comparison to what the Palestinians had and sort of in response. About a year into the Intifada then the tanks began to re invade Palestinian cities so that on the streets city streets and in different parts of villages, again we now had Israeli soldiers with tanks or in personnel carriers and jeeps, being throughout the city and bringing that kind of disruption internally. Along with that came a new process called curfew. Now in the United States a lot of people hear curfew and they think well some towns put curfew on say at 10 o'clock at night say all youth under 18 and have to go be inside and off the streets in time at 10 o'clock. But in this instance it was 24 hour day curfew, day after day sometimes month after month for the entire population. So everyone was prohibited from leaving their homes in the areas where curfew was imposed. Now I happened to live in Bethlehem. So just as an example for seven months of 2002 the entire population of the Bethlehem area, over 170,000 people were under 24 hour day curfew. Now what that would mean is that for as an example, we might have curfew would be imposed and then maybe four days would go by, five days would go by and there'll be an announcement on the television screen saying you are allowed to go out between eight and noon. Well you can imagine what happens when you have thousands of people who've been locked up in their homes for multiple days on end it's pure chaos on the streets. As people were rushing here to try to get to work if they could to get food supplies, to visit family to go to the doctors and so on. It was a complete chaos in the sort of everyday life of people. After a while when it went on so long, the schools even tried to open during those periods so that the children could come at least and try to get assignments that they might be able to try to work on while they were unable to be in school. The curfews went on across the West Bank and the largest period of time of the curfew was April and may of 2000 which was the time period called Operation Defensive Shield by Israeli military. And at that point Relief Aid which is a relief agency that monitors humanitarian concerns documented that at one point a million one hundred thousand Palestinians were under 24 hour day curfew. Now that number went up and down from between about 400,000 up to this million off and on all of 2002. Now luckily during 2003 the curfews had greatly reduced in number and in presence so one thing that has gotten slightly better for families is we don't have as many days of curfew going on as we had in the year and a half prior to that. I think one of the other sort of major thing for Palestinians of course that has gone on, which is this new security wall. Israelis are calling it a security wall. Because again they're saying that we have to stop Palestinian bombers from getting into Israel itself. And that the only way to do that is for us to basically put a wall up so nobody can get in to our territory. Palestinians argue if you wanna build a fence, that's the way you feel you have to go then why aren't you building it on your land? Because at no place is the wall following the line of the green line which is the armistice line between 1948 between Israel and the West Bank. And in many cases it's going very deep in the Palestinian territory why? Because of the settlements and since because the Israeli citizens were living deep inside the West Bank and so the wall is trying to sneak around to include as many of the settlements as possible on the Israeli side of the fence so to ease their access into Israel proper and their access to one another. But that has also meant then that there's a need to do internal fencing inside the West Bank because you have the bypass roads and the settlers moving back and forth. And so that many areas of the West Bank are literally being encaged by the wall. Let me give you one example. The town of Qalqilya which is in the sort of center Northwest bank, very close basically on the green line to Israel. This is a town has 42,000 people and today it is circled 360 degrees by a wall and by fence. There's one gate in and out of the city of Qalqilya. It's a gate that is eight meters wide and has a lock and key on it. And Israeli soldiers have the lock and key. And at six o'clock in the morning, they open the door and six o'clock at night they close the door. On the days when they do there's many days when they either don't open it on time, and so in particular not only this affects the people inside the town but obviously people in the villages who rely on the town for school for markets to bring their goods for doctors and so on have to come and wait outside this gate. And so there's been the fact of numerous stories and a number of us papers over the last couple of weeks about children having to wait nearly two hours to get in and to get out of Qalqilya at school. And there's been numerous days when the fence has not been opened at all. There's another area where 12,000 farmers are caught in between two segments of the wall and literally stuck in the midst of this again of the imprisonment. And of course in many places also the walls cutting farmers off from their land so it goes right up against the village and their farmland and their wells is on the other side of the fence. And so it's made the again the complete sort of disruption in it further expropriation of land is what Palestinian sense is happening. The Israelis of course again say, well it can always come down and that any wall can be dismantled but the destruction that's happening with the numbers of trees they're being uprooted, homes are being destroyed and the footpath, the footprint of the wall as they call it, the businesses that are being bulldozed is a huge destruction again of economy and agriculture for the Palestinians. During this time of course we're out we've also been seeing the regular still demolition of homes and the bulldozing of fields, olive and agricultural fields citrus fruit and other kinds of trees. There's been about 400,000 olive and agricultural trees that have been uprooted and bulldozed under by the Israeli military in the last three years. Again for the Israelis it's just a security measure. Why because at some point they say that someone a Palestinian has used either the tree or a house for cover and has shot at either soldiers or settlers or possibly sometimes inside Israel from the cover of these trees and therefore to keep a clean field, we sweep it so that meaning that they bury under literally acres of trees for miles, if you go down particularly it has been very clear in the Gaza strip to see that the literally acre after acre of complete fields that have been not only bulldozed over, but then buried underneath the dirt. Again in Rafa three weeks ago in the process of this clearing was 150 homes in about two and a half days that were destroyed leaving 2000 Palestinian families homeless. Again in the name for the Israelis of security. Palestinians see it as a way of course destroying their agriculture which it's doing and also trying to basically remove them from their houses make them to be in smaller smaller areas, so as a way of making so the enclave of Palestinians living in these little Banta stands in prisons a much more of a reality. Let me talk about the political situation in the Palestinian authority. We're a little less short of political chaos in the Palestinian authority than we were a few weeks ago, as the Palestinian Legislative Council finally approved the new cabinet suggested by the new prime minister Qurei, but the political leadership in the Palestinian authority has very little basically power over much of anything these days. The ministries that are still basically functional are the Ministry of Education and Ministry of Health although both of them severely tested again because of these pet closures and curfews and these roadblocks cutting off people from everything it's made the function of ministries extremely difficult but they are at least somehow functional. But in most of the rest of the further the West Bank and certain key areas in the Gaza strip the Israeli military has control over everything and so the political leadership doesn't have much control to do much of anything. As an example Palestinian Legislative Council has only been able to meet once in the last three years because they have not been given permits by the Israelis to allow them to gather and to meet. Certainly president Arafat in this period of time there's a great I think dilemma many Palestinians are very fed up with president Arafat. And in fact that they're pretty fed up with most of the leadership in general. But there's also a sense that he Arafat as well as the others are the elected leadership. They were elected by democratic elections in 1996 as a part of the Oslo period and they're currently in a situation where no kind of elections are possible because of his lack of being able to move, there's no way under current conditions that they live, that any sense of elections and political transformation can happen in which the people participate. And so they resist any discussion imposed coming from either Israel or the United States that say they will replace or remove president Arafat even as angry as they are at him oftentimes because he wasn't the elected president and he continues to be that president. But certainly the last few years have heightened some of the things he always has tendencies to which has been to have very centralized control and for dis-trusting of other people in the leadership and wanting to keep everything under his own umbrella and certainly those things have been heightened in the last three years which has made some of the transformations that folks have tried to do in the Cabinet Legislative Council more difficult and has certainly added to the confusion and chaos in the situation. Palestinians have buried just short of 3000 people. About 2,850 I think is the number I saw last week. Also for them 25% of those who had been killed being children. So in a situation where you have much of the Israeli public who has this sense of fear and political sense of the leadership at this point politically thinking they can win the conflict and the Palestinians having their entire life turned upside down at every single aspect and political leadership that has really no power to infect much change because of the situation people are feeling struggling stuck and desperate has been particularly hard I think on the children and particularly the children in the Palestinian Territories who have lived under tremendous amount of assault over the last few years. In many places consistent and particularly in night lit firing machine guns and tanks and Apache helicopters firing as well of course as the F16 jets which have been used off and on since June of 2001. If you go I was recently in Gaza just a few weeks before I left to come here and was talking with some 12 year olds and who were in part of an educational program that we helped to fund. And one of the things that teachers were having saying \"We're having difficulties with the 10 and 11 \"and 12 year olds were trying to convince them \"to stay in school.\" Because one, parents wanted them to go out and try and work to try everybody's looking for any kind of money because unemployment is so high across the Palestinian territories, but more the children saying, 'well I'm not gonna be alive \"by the time I'm 16 or 17 so why should I go to school? \"Why should I learn anything I'm not gonna have a future.\" And that sense of despair across the society, and particularly among the children is a very critical reality in the current cycle of the conflict. So the midst of this is there any view of hope or is peace possible in this kind of a context? Well of course I obviously I'm a person of faith because I am a clergy and so on but I would hope to say we have to say of course peace is possible. If you say it's not possible then we've destined the folks who live there Israeli Palestinian regardless of their background and who they are to just a deeper and deeper cycles of this violence until it basically obliterates both people. And so that's not an acceptable answer. So of course peace is possible but where is it? Who is it if it's not right now in the upper political leadership where are we gonna find some elements of hope? Let me just lift up three stories for you from one from inside the Israeli community one that's crossed the communities and one within the Palestinian community. That I think of some examples of people who are helping to create a sense of hope and to keep hope alive so that people have a sense that maybe there is still a future ahead for them. In the Israeli community. As as you may know that in the Israeli community situations where the community one of the mandatory things for young people of course is service to the Israeli defense forces. For young women its two years for young men three years. And this is a very important part of the Israeli sort of ethos and identity which really grew out of the promise of Holocaust and World War II in the sense that no matter what we have to rely on others to defend us, we will defend ourselves now by ourselves and for ourselves. And so it's a very important part for many Jewish Israelis and so the ethos and understanding of Israeli society, and it often impacts which jobs people get and so on, depending on which unit they served in so it's very integrated into the identity. But about a year a little about a year and a half into the Intifada initially a little under 400 and to date now over 800 Israeli reservists signed a letter and publish this across the papers inside Israel saying that they were proud members of the idea, they were proud to serve as a reserve soldier in their army. But they felt that's to continue to serve as reserve duty if it was gonna be in the occupied territories, was not only not serving their country, it was actually leading it towards greater chaos. In their letter they said they felt that the occupation of the Palestinian territories was actually the root of the violence regardless whether it was Palestinian or Israeli initiated at this point. And that they were happy to send a reserve duty anywhere inside the country but not in the territories. And this was the period of time of course when Israelis are being killed. And so to take that stance was really I think a sign, I mean for them of sort of trying to make us some moral sort of a moral choice and to date many of those young men and primarily they were young men have served prison duty now for that conviction and for that belief. They were joined just recently in the early part of September 27 Israeli air force pilots send a similar letter saying that they would refuse to fly missions over the Palestinian Territories because there was no way they could drop bombs on any specific target and not also cause great damage and or death and destruction to Palestinians who are not engaged in any form of armed resistance towards the Israelis and it was increasing the harm done again to both peoples and feeding the cycles of violence. Now the soldiers caused a lot of a shockwave in Israeli society because of this whole identity issue, but greater shock waves were contributed by this letter by the air force pilots. Air force pilots F16 pilots are not a dime a dozen. These are the elite of the elite of the military and are highly trained and so it caused a huge shockwave in fact people who actually were supportive of the soldier's right to make the statements were not supportive of the pilots. And so you continued even today to see sort of a fallout from this and arguments going backward or not, soldiers have a right to make such determinations to call under a time of attack and so on if this is being traitorous or not to their country. But I think that for me as I look at these young people some of them not so young, some of them are older and have been actually officers and were officers in the army so that they were high up in the leadership. In a time when you have loss of life going on in your society and saying that if we continue this, we're gonna increase our death is a remarkable thing. Another example from across the communities. As I said Israelis have lost 950 people, Palestinians 2,850 roughly on both sides. So there's a great deal of grief. There's a great deal of anger, among the families and communities in many parts of the Palestine and Israel. But there was a group of families that have formed a network called the Israeli Palestinian Bereaved Families Network. And these are families who have lost their loved ones, basically to the terror or the violence of each other. And have bonded together have crossed the firing line to offer support and solace to each other. Two of the men who are very active Yitzhak Frankito who was Israeli Jew and Ghazi Bridget who is a Palestinian Muslim have been very instrumental in actually coming in Europe and United States and speaking to us together in a number of times, and they came last March a year ago March with 350 Israeli and Palestinian families to the United Nations. And they wrote before they came Ghazi and Yitzhak wrote a common letter together. And in the letter they called it The Argument of The Coffins. And they said in the letter, \"We have every reason \"to be mortal enemies. \"One of us is an Israeli whose son was kidnapped \"five years ago by Hamas and assassinated. \"And one of us is Palestinian \"whose brother was killed at a checkpoint \"inside the village.\" \"But out of our grief we have United behind a common goal.\" And then went on to talk about the, that they were bringing these coffins, thousand coffers at that point to place in front of the United Nations, which would be draped with Palestinian and Israeli flags, symbolizing all of the people who had been killed to date in the conflict. And they Said that \"We were coming to New York to demand \"that the Bush administration the European Union \"and the United Nations to stop the insane violence \"that his gripped both of our peoples, \"and to stop the violence that our leaders are unable \"or unwilling to prevent.\" They went on to say that \"Many families who have lost sons \"and daughters in this blood view are seeking revenge.\" They said, \"We are no less angry at those \"who have caused our loved ones, \"but we are seeking peace and reconciliation.\" And they said, \"If we the people who paid the greatest price \"for the absence of peace can find a way \"to overcome our differences and to work through issues \"and try to find a way forward, \"then our leaders have no excuse not to try.\" They said, \"We will make the argument of the coffins \"because all of other arguments don't seem to work. \"People come up with reason that the reason \"why this conflict can't be resolved. \"And we tell you that these coffins say \"that those arguments that they are not good reasons, \"they are bad excuses.\" And they challenge people to not forget those who have been lost and on their behalf to work and to break the cycles of violence. Ghazi and Yitzhak crossed the chasms of hatred and grief and I've been working together to try to find ways out of these cycles of violence. That's a remarkable thing that happened in the middle of a conflict while the conflict is still going on, and both sides are still losing children, sons, daughters, and men women to to reach across in the midst of conflict and try to be supportive of one another. Last story and then we opened up for some questions. This comes from inside the Palestinian community. The international center where I work which is an extension ministry of the Lutheran Church in Bethlehem has a center that's been designed to enhance and undergird the cultural identity and cultural expression of the Palestinian society. And a particular look towards being a part of creating a pluralistic dynamic creative Palestinian society through enhancing this sense of cultural identity and expression seeing that through the cultural identity expression, people are given the tools to resist the dehumanizing aspects of the occupation and the violence around them and also given tools to do alternative ways of expressing themselves to direct the anger or frustration they have and to use culture as a means of being open to others whether Israelis as well as the world a large. And so the Arts and Crafts Center is built on the main walkway in Bethlehem with the windows and shutters opening out onto the street. If you walk down on any day you might look in the windows and you'll see a Muslim woman wearing a hijab sitting next to a Christian man who's across from a refugee next to someone from the university who are working on mosaics and ceramics and stained glass and glass fusing glass blowing and any kind of a variety of art forms expressing from those who are formally educated to those with no formal education from villagers, the whole Palestinian society represented in these people as they work together in this center. And so as people go by it becomes a normative thing to see and look and see all these variety of society gathered together and working. Well we were tested severely because in April-May incursion of 2002 the Arts and Crafts Center as well as the other parts of that facility received almost a half a million dollars worth of damage due to tank shells, bullets, and just sheer vandalism by the Israeli soldiers when they came in during that period of time. They invaded the center four times during the first week of that incursion into Bethlehem. And so it was very we're not sure whether we recover from that. But one of the miracles I think of the center was that as soon as the incursion was over where the first places that the artisans came to was back to the center. To help begin shoveling out the debris, taking the shrapnel out of the walls, sweeping up the glass trying to wire back on all the shutters that had been ripped off and at least put some coverage over the windows again, setting up the equipment that had been knocked over, picking up that had been broken. And in the middle of that as people were doing all this work some of the artists in particular who were working with stained glass began to take the fragments of glass that we had swept up and sat down and began to create with those fragments of glass. And many start to create stained glassed angels out of the the debris on the floor. And suddenly you could feel sort of the whole place begin to transform itself because in the midst of all the debris and the brokenness started to hang all these beautiful angels that transmitted light. For us it was a real sense of what happens when people have a sense of ownership and feel a sense of part of a community that they are able to not be defeated by the destruction, but actually take the broken pieces and create something new and beautiful out of it. Now we used that story last year for our Christmas card in the center and from the church. And a few days after the Christmas card went out we got a call from the church in Norway saying, \"Can we buy 500 of those angels?\" And then the church of Sweden called, \"Can we have 200?\" and so on. I think to date they've made almost 5,000 angels. Now we've well used up all the glass from the building and using this point using the broken bottles that just come there was no recycling, so we were using pop bottles and all kinds of bottles to make these angels. But the remarkable second miracle of the angels was that now a number of families because of the angels are self-sufficient. They're making enough money from the angels to pay their electric bill to put food on their table, to keep their kids in school. And at a time when there is very little economic opportunity particularly in the Bethlehem region, this ability to find a sense of hope for people has been a remarkable gift in the midst of destruction. 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there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=13.83,15.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and just see what questions and comments","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=15.02,17.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and discussion we might have for 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okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=34.37,35.503"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e No wire?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=37.87,38.703"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Is there a switch on it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=40.28,41.58"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There you go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=44.145,45.143"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Hi, my name's Michael Gillespie,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=48.187,49.518"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I'm chairing the ECFA Council this year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=49.518,52.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd like to say that,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=52.33,53.895"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm sure I speak for many here","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=53.895,55.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when I say that we have hung","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=55.78,58.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"onto every word of your emails","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=58.61,60.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from Bethlehem for years now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=60.13,63.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you so very much for those reports.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608#t=63.07,66.098"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/43588/file/116608/transcript/28670/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.\nThey meant so 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Thank you, I'm gonna stop there and just see what questions and comments and discussion we might have for awhile. No questions, okay.\r\n\r\n- No wire?\r\n\r\n- Is there a switch on it? There you go.\r\n\r\n- Hi, my name's Michael Gillespie, and I'm chairing the ECFA Council this year. I'd like to say that, I'm sure I speak for many here when I say that we have hung onto every word of your emails from Bethlehem for years now. Thank you so very much for those reports.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- They meant so much.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- This question may seem a little bit off the subject but it's one that's important to us, I think. And I think you can give us a sense of where are our, where is the leadership of our national churches, right now? Many of us who work at the grassroots level on behalf of peace and justice in Palestine, feel like, I think, that, well we just wonder where the national churches are. And if there is movement, is it movement in the right direction?\r\n\r\n- Well most of the mainline Protestant churches certainly have very, for the most part, have fairly strong statements. Have all basically also said that the root of the violence is the ongoing occupation, that, in recognizing, and they basically have supported a two-state solution. Some of them have said, under negotiation, some of them had said use the international law as the method of setting up those two states. Many, most recently just two days ago, there was a very strong statement from the National Council of Churches against the wall. Certainly also the Catholic Church has preached and the Pope came out with a very strong, through the Vatican, through one of the Cardinals that lived there, statement against the wall. Looking at recognizing the insecurity that was raised, feeling that there's got to be some way of dealing with issues of suicide bombing and so on. But also seeing that in the context of the larger violence and the excessive force often used in the collective punishment against Palestinian people and seeing this that these things have to be looked at in a whole context and calling for, as I said, the occupation to end. Many of them saying, up to the sixth, using the 68 borders for where the Palestinian state would be. And many of us, many other denominations have supported a shared Jerusalem as the capital. We have different, we've had no statements or differing statements on the issues of right of return of Palestinian refugees. The churches are not taking, there's not yet today a church that has taken a specifically strong stance on that, although many are starting to include language that at least the question of Palestinian refugees has to be addressed, it can't just be washed away with just reciting a poem. It has to at least be somehow addressed in a solution that's gonna be durable. You know, how much, we have not, our Christian witness I think on this issue is obviously it's very divided because while the leadership of most of our churches have taken positions that are quite supportive, I think, of trying to find a just solution, as just as we can make it, we are divided as a Christian faith because we have a lot of people who are Christian who work on a perspective that, for a variety of reasons, that any questioning of the government of Israel policies is against God's will. That the violence there and so on is a part of God's plan, is leading up to the second coming of Christ, and therefore we can't stand in the way of that. And so that makes our Christian witness quite divided. And certainly under the current administration, I mean, my own denomination, obviously the President, is at least personally a member of our church. But I think he's going to the Episcopalians right now, so that's his family heritage of Episcopalian.\r\n\r\n- I think John Wesley was too.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, exactly right. But he has refused, for instance, throughout, this was particularly true prior to the attack on Iraq, but he has refused to receive the United Methodist bishops, bishops of his own church that he has membership in. And so how much we were locked out of having discussion with him at this point. But, I think again, and that's probably the biggest, one of the biggest issues facing the Christian community is the fact that we are a house divided. And it's a pretty polarized division. And so it makes the sense of engaging in this sometimes very difficult. Yes, ma'am?\r\n\r\n- Can you hear me?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Okay, So despite whatever the statement of the pro-peace rally, what actions are being taken, like with someone at grassroots level, what actions are being taken?\r\n\r\n- Okay. There are a variety of, I'll start just at the denomination and then I'll get to the grassroots in short. This is one example, one of the things besides just writing statements, which just fall maybe on deaf ears. The churches, particularly the Protestant denominations, have joined together under the World Council of Churches and have what's called the Accompaniment Program. So that they're sending teens from all over the world from member churches who are going and staying for three to six months and working in different parts of Israel and Palestine, primarily in the territories, but also with Israeli organizations. One of the things that they've been doing is accompanying say like medical teams, because ambulances have a very difficult time getting in the West Bank and so we've got people from the churches are going as accompaniers, because the ambulance has a better access to move sometimes when an international's there with them. And so one of the ways the churches have also been trying to act besides statements, is trying to send people to be on the ground. To be in solidarity and to be there, trying to be a part of an effective grassroots movement on the ground there. What can you do here if you can't go? Well, I think there's five things, and this, this would work for you, even if you are whatever tradition I think that you would come from, even if you come from none, if you are sort of, I think the five things I would suggest now, the first one I have is I always put is prayer. Now, however you formulate that, and I don't usually, I don't mean by that let's list a petition. I would pray for peace and justice in the Middle East and go on to the next thing. But truly engaging and thinking about who are the organizations who are working for peace? What are they doing? What are their needs? And bringing those to the awareness of the communities that we are in and being, if you're a prayer, if you pray, you meditate, however you do that, to keep focus on them, to lift them up. There's a very powerful resource, you can order it off the web. It's called, Remember the Children, which is www.rememberthechildren.org. That is a very painful resource. It has all the children for Israeli and Palestinian who have been killed in the last, this Intifada, the month they were killed, their age and how they were killed, as well as some very powerful quotes from Palestinians and Israelis about trying to at least keep the children out of the violence as best as possible. And it becomes a way of lifting actual families up who we know are grieving. Those kinds of things I think are important and taking your prayers to the street. I think being in visual, on the street, holding, you know, to draw attention that there are people of goodwill, who are holding the light, if you would, up to the situation and trying to create a difference. Secondly, is giving. Again to find avenues to which to share, if you have financial resources, to try and share them with the group, such as I mentioned. There's a whole myriad of groups that you can find that are doing excellent work. Israeli Rabbis for Human Rights are replanting olive trees and doing it not just with the tree, but also bringing financial assistance to the families until the tree begins to produce. Whether it's a video of the Palestinian refugee communities doing work within the Palestinian refugee community and dealing with the right of return and working with Israelis trying to educate them about what it means. And there's any, any place in the schools, in the clinics, these are the places that are keeping hope alive. They are the only things that's keeping us from completely deteriorating into a complete mess, but financially they're strapped because of the economic difficulties. So trying to give at that point steady, this is an area where we have to continue to study and to learn, to broaden your understandings, listen to a multiplicity of voices and to understand what's happening. Now the best way to study is still to come. Come over and let us help you find and see and meet the folks on the ground, but many people right now are nervous, and so you have to find ways, you can go to the Americans Families Understanding website. They have a lot of books that they recommend. Churches for Middle East peace. There's a whole variety of things that will give you resources that you can learn and study. The fourth is we've got to begin, I know this is happening, but engaging interfaith wrestling matches sometimes, but a discussion and work on this issue. This is very, very hard, this is not easy to do. This can be a very, this topic more than almost probably any that I know becomes very polarized. And immediately people end up drawing camps and thinking that if you're for human rights for one, that you're somehow against the other. And if you're, again, if you're for security for one, you're against the other. And trying to break out of that polarization, because if we stay stuck there, we will never get out of this mess. But this means also caring enough about the other people on the other side, who disagree with us, to not walk away from the table. It also means trying to learn to listen to each other, with respect and dignity. And that's also not an easy thing to do. But it's important, not only for the conflict there, because it also makes a difference. If you can go to your Congress people and this is part, this is the first step, which is advocacy, if you can go to your elected officials with an interfaith group, you have more weight than if you go on your own. Say as Christians or if you go as a Muslim, if you go as Christian, Muslim and Jewish group, you have the most, you can really make a huge, a much bigger dent on your elected official. But it's also very important for our own society because American society, I'm only back here since a few months but I can already see it in traveling the country, the polarization happening in our own country along religious, political and economic kinds of lines again. And so this being able to work on this issue together is also just essential for our own American society, who we're gonna become. And last is issues of advocacy. And there's two layers to this I want to really highlight. One is again, is media. We don't think about media sometimes in advocacy but because the issue of study is connected to this. so many people in the United States don't have a very full picture. They have very limited picture of the conflict. You see something, a flash when there's a suicide bomb. Occasionally you'll find a flash when there's been something happening in the Palestinian society but nobody knows the details, the background, and so on. Especially if you have small local papers that you come from. There's a whole list of very good websites that you can get on that you can get alternative news sources, alternative stories, analysis papers that are written by Israelis and Palestinians that are quite good. And a lot of times, if you'll send those news stories and those articles or papers with a cover letter and say suggest carrying it as an op-ed piece, a lot of local papers will do that sometimes. Moreso than even the big papers, you can kind of work if you have small local papers. And to read your paper, how are they covering the conflict? Do they cover it well or not? If not, write letters to the editor about it. If they do cover it well, write letters to the editor supporting it. That kind of advocacy is important because of the sense of how it helps the knowledge base of people in what they just generally know about what's going on. Looking at the connection of why we don't have healthcare and why we don't have this. Education's being cut, I hear that New York University just this midterm, you're cutting $8 million out of your budget and looking at how our tax dollars are spent. Another way is that why we've been spending billions of dollars over here but we don't have money for stuff here. Making those connections for people in the media is very important for folks. And then you do the advocacy, which we all know, which is the hard painstaking work of going to congressional and senatorial leadership and the White House, to pound on the doors and say, \"Our policies in this are not helpful \"for Israel, they're not helping for the Palestinians, \"and they're not helpful for us.\" And we need to make some shifts in that. If we really care about the people on the ground then we have to change where we're standing. And this is so frustrating for, I know. I can give you an example. In February of '99, or I'm sorry, yes, February of, no '97, the settlement of Har Homa, which is a settlement just outside of Bethlehem, in Beit Sahour on the Mountain of Jabal Abu Ghneim, when the prime minister then was Netanyahu, he declared he was gonna start a new settlement on this area. We had one of the largest non-violent protests that we have ever had, it was sustained for weeks on end. It was a joint Palestinian and Israeli and international non-violent witness. We continued night after night, literally people sleeping on the mountain. And it was the largest advocacy success we'd ever had, particularly from the churches. The churches from Middle East for Peace, who had served monitors for this, said the White House and Congress got more letters on that one issue than we've ever had before on any single issue on the subject. And at the time, the best that President Clinton could say to Netanyahu was, \"This won't be helpful.\" And a month later it was declared a closed military zone. A few months later the trees were razed and then burned and six months later, the first unit was going up. It was, for those of us who finally thought, we finally got the churches off their duff, we got people to respond and this is all it got. So I know it's very frustrating working on this. You feel like you're working against the grain all the time. But for the sake of the kids there, for the sake of children here, we can't get frustrated and quit because if we do, we're again sacrificing them to another generation of killing each other.\r\n\r\n- Two questions. One question is what is your group's or maybe your own personal view on that of returning the custody to refugees? And the follow-up question to that, what is your group's or your own personal view on the return of Jewish refugees who at one point were expelled from West Bank to the Palestinian area, such as like Gaza and Beit Sabour, et cetera?\r\n\r\n- The, as I said, most of our churches don't have official positions on right of return. Now we have, just so I can talk of my own tradition, the United Methodists have a new resolution that's important for our general assembly, our big meeting that we have that's gonna be in April of 2004. That includes in it saying that the right of return must be dealt with using established international law that has been used to deal with all refugee issues. So this basically Palestinian refugees get treated with the same rights as other refugees in other situations are, which means that refugees basically have a choice. They have a choice of returning to their homes of origin, a choice to stay in the country where they are refuged, if the country there chooses to give them citizenship. Or they have a choice to go to a third country that offers them repatriation. And with all three, that there's a right of compensation for those. Now, obviously the right of return for many Israelis immediately becomes very scary because of the issue of feeling like it will be the end of the Jewish state. And the reason is because of the demographic change in what happened. So that instead of having 70% Jewish majority, you might have 60 or 55. And then in a few years they would, just because of the birth rates and also the immigration of Israelis out of the country, Jewish Israeli's, that you would have less, less and less. Obviously the, in the other, Jews going back to areas that they were in prior to either 48, between 48, it's now West Bank, one of the things that was said at the initial part of Aznar, when it first began and the Palestinian authority had said even in fact that even the settlers who were living there at that point, wanted to stay in their houses. Many of the peoples, Christians, in some of the areas around Bethlehem were families that came back initially. Obviously the settlement's grown way past what they used to have but there were families that came back that had some of that land before '48, that if people wanted to stay that they would have a right to stay. But they had to stay under, they had to become Palestinian, Jewish Palestinians. For the most part that was rejected by these folks. Now, the way that you could do this most equitably, of course, would be a one-state solution, in the sense that then everybody could come back where they went and where they were from. Again, for many Israelis at this point, this is not, again, it's separate for the same reasons. And for most Palestinians also at this point don't want a two-state solution or don't want a one-state because they want to be out from underneath the boot. But I sincerely think, and I think it's becoming clearer and clearer that unless the right of return is addressed, it can't just be, so I know right of return, boom, end of story and go on. Unless it's really addressed and done in some fashion that's a just fashion and the refugees are actually participating in that solution, then the conflict will never be over. 75% of the Palestinian population are refugees. You wanna end the conflict, you're gonna have to deal with the issue. And what that means, I think there's a whole variety of solutions out there because actually there's been a number of, the British just did a study of camps in Lebanon and Syria that had very creative answers from the refugees themselves about whether to return inside, return to the West Bank and so on. So at this point, the refugees themselves have never been engaged in the process, nobody has asked them. And so to find a solution, I think it's gonna mean that we do have to bring them in, they've gotta be a part if you want to try to heal some of the underlying fear and anxiety in that population.\r\n\r\n- I wonder if you could give us a little flavor of the status and dynamic of the church within the Palestinian community and also among the Messianic Jews and whether you can see that these two churches might play a role of leading the peace? A specific question, do you know about the Musalaha encounters in the desert?\r\n\r\n- The Musalaha, um-hmm. I'll start with the vast majority of the Messianic Jewish community. There's two different groups that consider themselves Messianic Jews. There are those who are Messianic Jews who think that the Messiah is coming for the first time, i.e., not recognizing not Jesus, the Messiah, but whoever the Messiah's gonna be who's going to come. There's that one group who think that we're in a period of time when the Messiah is gonna come back or he's gonna come. Then you also have a group of people who call themselves Messianic Jews who are Jews who recognize Jesus as the Messiah. And so he's also gonna come back . Now, for the most part, those that are Messianic Jews that recognize Jesus as Messiah have very little to do with the other Christian community, primarily 'cause they think that the rest of Christians aren't really Christians because they're not Jewish and that you have to be Jewish to really be a Christian. And so they are very heavily involved in proselytizing of other Jews, very active. In fact, so active, in fact, the Israeli government actually considered passing a law to make it illegal for a Jew to own the New Testament. And it went through two readings of the Knesset, but by the third which is, it has to go through three readings. I mean, all of these people, of course, who do academic study of first, second, third century Judaism have to have a New Testament. You can't do that without a New Testament. And people said, well, this is just ridiculous and so it never went through the third reading. But there was actually an effort because of people being so angry at how heavily proselytizing these folks were. But they have very little connection, for the most part, with the Christian community. Now there is a segment of them that has, through the Masalaha Project that you mentioned, which is, it was actually started by a person who's on the staff of the Bethlehem Bible College, they represent a very tiny, tiny little piece of the overall public. And I think that sometimes people feel that some of the Christian community, I think some of the Jewish community think that they're very, they're, what's the word? Their created reality has no touch in reality, in a sense. Their going out to do this shared experience, it doesn't address the really underlying social fabric. But for others I think it's this kind of conversation, again, it's building relationships. And in those relationships is an opportunity to get to know each other better and to understand each other's concerns. And those people that do have been participating in that have had some very transformative moments and relationships that have joined together that, again, bridged the gap between both societies and very, very, very important. The state of the other Christian community, they are the ones who are doing the ministries of remarkable hope. Many of them are the ones who are running the clinics, the hospitals, the schools, the youth programs. They're doing a massive amount of work in trying, again, to keep alive some of the social fabric of the Palestinian society, in particular, but also, of course, inside Israel for those communities. But they are being impacted because, of course, all the people are living under these conditions. And so being able to carry out these ministries has been very hard. Example, St. Luke's Hospital, which is run by the Anglican Diocese, which is in Nablus, is almost empty. There's an entire hospital facility, staff is there, and there are no people. Why? Nobody can get there. Most of the patients from the St Luke's Hospital come from the villages in the region and nobody can get there because of all the curfews and the roadblocks and the checkpoints. So you have this whole entire hospital that's completely, not a single bed has a person in it. And so it's been, so they're trying to run the hospital but there's no income at all. I mean, it's just, it's a disaster. So there's big pressure on the institution's running financially because of the lack of local income. And of course what's happening also is immigration. And Beit Sahour has been very impacted. It's a primarily Christian village, about 70%, 70, 80% Christian, just East of Bethlehem, and about 25 families in the last two and a half years have emigrated out. Because if the Christian population is only 2% that starts to make a big impact on the population itself. And that one of the concerns that the heads of churches have laid out before people is that if the conflict isn't resolved soon, so that people feel secure and willing to stay and their children have a reason to stay, there is concern that all those places that have had Christian presence will suddenly be empty museums. And that it really will be the first time not to have a living Christian presence there. In our own congregation in Bethlehem many families who have that, they've had the possibility, they still have the resources, particularly if they have young sons between 18 and 25, are trying to send their sons out because it's a very dangerous time to be a young Palestinian man. And once people leave, coming back is very difficult to live under these kinds of circumstances. So and the Patriarch Sabbah, who is the head of the Catholic community always says it to the Christians, it's a part of their burden basically to stay in the land, to carry on the Christian presence, to keep up the witness. And yet he also says, when you sit with him he says, he knows, he says that from the security of his patriarchy in Jerusalem and he says, he knows he says that but he's not raising a family. He says, I don't, what right do I have to tell my people, you can't go if you have an option under this condition? So there's a stressor on the community itself. They're trying to be faithful, they're trying to witness but, the heads of churches are trying to be engaged in some interfaith issues. There was a very exciting possibility that actually the former Archbishop of Canterbury drew together for the first time, the chief rabbis, some inside of Israel, some outside; the heads of churches of the Christian communities inside Israel and Palestine; and some of the Muslim leadership, not only from Jerusalem but also from Egypt and three other places and they actually had a conference in Alexandria. And in this conference, the idea was to try to set a sort of moral and ethical guidelines to a conflict. To draw some boundaries which all three faith traditions would say to their people, you cannot cross these bounds and still be ethically and faithful in our communities. It actually went far better than most people anticipated. And they were due to have, they had had a couple of meetings, and were due to have a third to get ready just to finally announce what this final agreement was, when we had Operation Defensive Shield last year, in April and May, which was so destructive in the Palestinian Territories that it really, it froze the conversation. And then we had the change to archbishop. And so it's sort of sitting there right now. But it's still out there as a possibility to be rekindled. Let me close with a story then. Gotta close with a story. People often ask me, again, how do you keep hope? And it's not easy in this circumstance. But for those of you who are not Christian, I apologize for this reference as a story but maybe it will still convey something to you. In March of 2002, also was very difficult in Bethlehem. It was the time when we had the shelling by the F-16s, heavy military presence, a lot of shooting going on. Palm Sunday had been particularly bad for us as families were out on the streets of Bethlehem, as often the case, and the Apache showed up and began shooting. And this was into the city and it created enormous pandemonium on the streets. But then during Holy week, the soldiers kind of pulled back out of the center of the city. So on Easter Sunday, we had a relatively normal Easter worship under our circumstances. And we closed that service with a song that we made Christians often close Easter Sunday services with, which is, \"Christ the Lord is Risen Today\". And that was the last Sunday we were able to meet for six weeks because on the Tuesday is when the Israelis came back in, with all guns blazing, with all the tanks and began what you may have known as the Siege of the Church of the Nativity, but again, it's partially Operation Defensive Shield that lasted for a little over 40 days in Bethlehem. And under curfew, most Sundays some people at least would sneak to church, who lived close so they could come to worship, but under this period of time it was not possible. So when people finally came back, Demetria and I, the pastor and I met and decided what are we gonna do for worship? And so we decided we have to begin with the same song we last song together, which was just \"Christ the Lord is Risen Today.\" And when people came together, they were shellshocked. You have to understand, they came through the streets that were full of rubble. Hundreds of cars that had been just flattened by the tanks were stacked on top of each other and set on fire. So they were piled up in all the alleyways so you couldn't get through. Rotting trash, from after seven weeks of not being picked up. And some place smells of rotting bodies for people who have not been able to be buried. It had been a very, very, very difficult time and so people were very distraught. We also had with us on that day three Israeli rabbis that came from Rabbis for Human Rights, who came in with the bishop. And they wanted to come, they called and said, \"Can we please join you in worship? \"because what has been done is unconscionable \"and we want to just come and be in solidary \"and just sit with people and worship that day.\" They were more than heartily welcomed by the congregation and so they came in with Bishop Mead to join us in service. So we started to sing that song. It was very quiet. The church was packed by the way, out of the doors. It was not a single space left in the congregation. But the marvelous thing was, as we sang that and as people sang it and we got a little farther into the song, you could see people's shoulders kind of roll back and take a deep breath. And it got louder and louder and louder 'til we got to the last verse. You would've thought we were back on Easter Sunday, it was just remarkable. And watching people's transformation on their faces go from shellshocked to being present again, for me it was a sense at least these people of faith that they knew somehow that God had been with them, that God is gonna be with them. But more importantly that , because of what they believed that they knew that they can not only survive but they had the right and had a necessity to participate in building a different world. They had courage to continue to face what was in front of them and not give up and not give in but to continue to participate with others to build a better and a new society. Again, those are the places where I think we'll find the seeds of transformation and hope that can lead us forward. Thank you for the privilege of being with you tonight.\r\n\r\n- There's punch and cookies over on the end of the hall and the end of the room there, please. I'm sure Sandra would be willing to answer any more questions in person. 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