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All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5744.52,5745.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the meantime I'll compare the two at home and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5747.73,5752.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bringing in the 19th. 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Well of five to twelve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5761.62,5766.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you for an opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5767.14,5768.55"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5770.66,5770.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A little reluctant to to blow my horn if you will","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5773.58,5777.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but this is an opportunity to get them. Once you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5779.2,5784.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pass from this earth people tend to forget you. Mm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5785.23,5789.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hmm mm hmm. So this an opportunity to be sure that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5789.77,5794.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mark has lived there you go. All right. Thank you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5796.0,5800.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dr. Hall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=5800.17,5800.72"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18455/annotation/1182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/455/original/RS000-017-003_Harl.vtt?1599133309","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/455/original/RS000-017-003_Harl.vtt?1599133309"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18456","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Unedited text [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791/transcript/18456/annotation/1183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- I think we're good to go. One thing that I just recently did that I would call your attention. We are supporting and in many major way a museum. And so that all there were our farms are where I grew up and there is a board and they mentioned some time ago. This is a village in Livingston named after Lewis and Parker It was a civil war captain who chased William Quantrell all over Missouri and Kansas and so were basically continuing the the understanding of him but as we got farther along the board said Harold you had a pretty good military character too. So they finally decided. Actually took about five minutes to ask me to do it to provide one of my uniforms which I still had. Okay. And everything that goes into the museum has to have an essay. What's the history of it. So what I did I put together a couple of weeks ago of the six pager that will go along with that. I'm giving you a copy of it. OK. In case there are things today we don't get covered. And. This this is about a hundred and sixteen miles south of here right north of the Missouri line and it was. He came back to that area and they named the village after him. So it's a village of Livingston but his name is Livingston Parker. Now let me. Ask you if I go really through beginning to end. The beginning is when I was born. Yeah. I didn't realize until I was four or five years old that I almost died. I was born. Born at a farmhouse six miles from town and my mother had the baby and she couldn't cut the cord. Her sisters in law were standing around and they didn't want to cut the cord. So they called a medic in town six miles away. And by the time he got there I was blue and the fire was gone. So since I found that out four or five years of age I have had a slightly different view of life and that is it has propelled me to probably be a little bit more here an ambitious thing. So that's that. That's some not really very relevant but it did have an impact. And then what I started wondering country school my dad said nail if you can take the first grade and whether that was the first year they started kindergarten what they called it primary. Mm hmm. And I was all in my class for eight years. And that kid that country school does that right. Oh yeah. No no. No no fellow members at all that were members and other classes. So I was all alone. And. This my dad said if you can take primary and first grade in the first year I'll give you a you lamb. Well he was a farmer. Mm hmm. Well that propelled me and I worked pretty hard. And I made it that though they had never had somebody to take to like that but they they did my case so that those kind of things the kinds of things really had a and important propelling effect I think now my parents had a tough time economically I in my early life was where my dad told my mother in the fall of 1936. Bertha we have a hundred dollars to get through the water put the crop in next spring. And I was standing around there and I didn't really realize then. How old were you. Didn't ever. I was three that. I was born in nineteen thirty three and this was in the fall of nineteen thirty six. And that was a tough year. Most of the people down there and around the Midwest didn't have much of a crop. And so that my dad came in and then the hushed tones said we just can't spend money that can't spend. So the next year we went to a bigger farm and but they had a tough time economically. They started out with 80 acres and then went to one hundred and sixty and then 320 and I started working in the field myself. In 1942. I was. I was this I was actually about seven eight eight years of age and my dad fixed up a cultivator and my older brother I cultivated corn and that was that at age seven eight. So it's a it was a tough tough beginning without too much question. My first recollection of life was in 1936 the WPA was working in front of our house I asked my mother who that was and she said well that's some government group that's widening the road. I said Really. And so that was the first thing that I could remember it was that and then that episode with my father and mother came in that fall. So that was removed in 1937 to a larger farm across the road and that was the beginning of more prosperity than would add up to that time started to grade school in 1939. I was nine days too. Young because it cut off it October 1st. And I was October 9th. And so I had to stay behind. I worked with my father and my grandfather building a corn crib. I thought I was part of the crew and stared across to where the school was which is just about a hundred yards away. So my grade school period was fairly common. We had seven to nine students and as I said I was only in my class for all the years and I. Didn't know how well or how poorly I was doing in those days. The state of Iowa required all rural schools to take exams. It did not require it of city schools. They thought the country schools were a bunch of dummies and so they had to take a rather complicated without the time exam taught at the county level. And I was worried about it and our teachers were worried about it because the teachers were evaluated on the basis of sure whether they got everybody through. And so and I had no comparison because nobody in my class. So when I took it took the exam and it was delivered to our rural home the results first thought gee there's a mark there and that must mean that I failed. And I read a little further and said No you're at valedictorian there are 108 students in the county. And I was number one and and it really shocked me because I had no idea how far away or how well I was doing. So went from there to I had a stutter in those days and I sat down behind her house and slept swing and told myself You gotta get over that. So I started a high school. There were forty five in our class and I was valedictorian of avenues County. My wife to be was valedictorian of Wayne County and she sat in front of me and said. So we were competitors for the first two years and we. See I lost my train of thought there. We were actually actually were competitors. She got one bee in typing and I didn't get a I got always in high school so I was valedictorian of high school and she was salutatorian. We had married a couple of years later I see our high school said she got one B I had straight A's so that was really true. J.C. Penney was their commencement speaker. Is that right. Yes him a he. He had a farm down in Missouri. And we were just over the line and our superintendent a pretty aggressive guy and invited him and none of us here got hate. I think he just confided in me because I was president of the class but he he he was also doubtful that I could get J.C. Penney but he had a farm down by Kansas City and he visited that farm and we knew that. And so he he agreed to come and we have pictures a lot of pictures of him giving the commencement address. So that was kind of an interesting thing. The my senior year one of my teachers took me under her wing and said Neil you just got to get a scholarship and get into college. And I said I don't think I'm going to college. And so she kept hounding me and Iowa had the Iowa Centennial Memorial Scholarship based on the 1846 top point where Iowa became a state. And so to honor that they called they got some coins made and sold them and that made money and there were four statewide scholarships as a result the first year and fifty one. So I kept putting her off into your off finally. She said Neil you've just got to get that. You said you just can't let that go. So she was one of those seniors a senior professor not professors teachers there. And we've become a fairly good friends. And so I said All right all right. So I made an appointment and applied and drove up to Albion which is about 40 miles away and a member of the Board of Regents was on the committee. And her father or her husband was ran a furniture store. And what do you call people who just buried others. He had a funeral home or he had a mortuary. And so I sat down in front of her. She was the one. That was on the committee and she first question what do you plan to do with your life. And I said Well I think I'll probably be farming in southern Iowa. She kind of blinked because she had the application that show that I had and no one in my class. And so she she got off that then went on and on for about an hour and then thank me and I drove home and I thought well answering that first question and probably I was going to I mean I'm not going to get that scholarship but lo and behold in about three weeks I got a note in the mail. You are a recipient of one of the four scholarships. Three hundred dollars and 300 hours now is not much but it was quite a bit in 1951. So. I said to myself Well Harold you better try anyway. It's nice. It's not very nice. And she had been so generous with her comments to say no I'm not going to. So I applied and got the scholarship and my parents were dead set against I was dead set against any college. They didn't want you to disclose on me. And that summer we had many discussions. And my dad had a high school education and he just was dead set against it. But I went ahead and applied and I was staying and I had a friend of mine got a apartment on Lynn 3 0 3 0 9 Lynn and so as we were driving up and my dad and mother were in the front seat I was in the backseat. We were going up Lynn and my dad turned around and said Neal he said I think you might have amounted to something if you hadn't come up here. So I didn't respond but I unloaded my gear and went in a basement apartment and after I got it all worked away I walked down to the union spent the next three to four hours with the. North side of the Union where that fountain is. Yeah the fountain is into the night. Do you really believe that you want to be here. And I argued with myself and I said my folks don't well I like that idea and I'm running against them. Although I was pretty independent at that time in life. But I finally decided I'm going to give it a year and then we'll see. So I started out and the first collision I had was with ROTC. They automatically. Had made a listed for the first quarter we were on a quarter system at the time. And at that time we were required Yeah. You know T.C. caress you know and I knew that but I thought there was a must there must be some way to get out of. I guess I would love to see the colonel GV McConnell and I said I really didn't come here to be marching around out there like people are doing. I said I'm serious. And he said come back in two weeks Carl you'll have your mind changed. So I came back in two weeks and I said Colonel I haven't changed. But he said to her all you should know that this is required for the first two years. After that it's up to you. But he said you have to be in the ranks for the first two years. So I was assigned right. And during this thing Scott says that more detail would give you a copy of I was dead set against it. And yet I got. Pretty good grades and the first quarter I had a 3 8 4 on a four point scale. And slowly I began to see a little bit of importance to the ROTC program. And my second year. And by that time I had still had a great point of pretty close to Fort Point but I was convinced enough that when I ended my second year I signed up for advanced ROTC and from there I became a distinguished that D.M. as such as a distinguished military student and a damn g at graduation which is a distinguished graduate. And then I was offered a regular commission because I had done pretty well. And we had our summer program was at Fort Sill Oklahoma and I had as well prepared for that. And so there was a summer program I guess I'm not familiar with six weeks OK that time it was all it was required at some some place some went to the east coast some went to Kansas. But we always went to Fort Sill because we were heavy artillery. OK. So I went on active duty. And by the way I take my overall grade point. They used to have a plaque over in big chair that the number one students and I was on it. But they took it down and they remodeled about eight or nine years ago. Any event. I. Again I I kept thinking of those things that I mentioned to you that if if I if I was able to to survive that I should be doing a little bit better than just average. So I had pretty well had that in my mind. I went through the military and the I signed Well I went to Fort Bliss and went through the program there for its four officers new officers and I was no two out of about 90 and we had half our half West Pointers and half from universities their officer training course and the number one guy with a master's degree from the University of Maryland who was overweight he smart and he had a good background. We were in missiles and I was majoring and had majored in agriculture and they said all of the agriculture people to Fort Bliss and missiles. They said all they are engineers to Fort Sill for her conventional artillery which at the time didn't make sense to me but the military has its own way of doing things. So. That propelled me out of there and I was assigned to Chicago started grad missile defense. It was on the North Side of Chicago and we were defending the entire sector from the north. And I was an officer and b battery and shortly after we got active there we were just putting in new equipment launchers and radars and so on. We do the officer in October early October it was during the Suez crisis. You remember that your history. Twelve o'clock I got a call alert call that there were six suspected in my aircraft flying the polar account or Canada and so that meant we would. Activate our missiles. So for the first time attached the the cords and we had a hundred eight missiles in the air and about 15 minutes the sweat running down my neck because here I was the second lieutenant. And at that time there was nothing between my thumb and firing. Nowadays you have to go through quite a bit of red tape if you're going to be firing something like that. These were missiles that would go fifty thousand feet in the air and not 25 miles. So my my my shirt was wet with sweat tire at twelve twenty nine. We got the message that a bunch of Canadians had failed to file a flight plan. So that was as close as I came to combat. But we were a front range defense that's been totally eliminated. They have big missiles there in Montana and other places but every city of any size had a battery. Is that right. Yeah. Chicago had I think three or four. They scattered around and we don't have much fun photos with me but we were on the on the north side and and we thought we were probably if there was calm conflict you'd probably come in our direction. So my last week in there was a two year term in the military. I got promoted and got a call about a week before I was to retire from there. Had a colonel who is tough tough nut and anybody who got a call from the colonel would shake in their boots a little bit. So his office was just down down the street from ours about 100 yards. So I went in and I saluted and I said the colonel this is Lieutenant Harrell you ask me to come any help he asked he said Sit down. And he stared at me. He stared at me for about a minute and he said Harold. He said I've been in the military a long time. I'm a West Berliner and I'm in my what say 20 90 years something like that but I have never seen. And we are. That was perfect. Now I know he as an officer Officer for the annual report of the military. That's right slips a little bit here. But it's Officer efficiency report Oh. And he said anybody who does that well should make an account of their career. And so I'm going to offer you a regular commission. I have the authority to do that. And I said Thank you Colonel but I think I will not go that direction. I've had a good term here. I have had a good very good experience. I ran into a couple of senior people I didn't think too much of but I didn't let let it be known and so I then done well as terrorists haven't they. So I went left the military and moved to Detroit and I got a job with Wallace as farmers affiliated. OK. And I was there a year and really just kind of looking around and I got to writing some stories that were pretty heavily liberal. And so I made appointment I went to law school I was city to ask some questions if I drive down there. So I did. And I'm impressed John O'Byrne and became my mentor and I got a law degree and then came back up here and got a page in economics a I was number three in the law school the three of us or the top of the class were very very very small difference but they didn't really tell you but we figured out a way to find out what they do. And so there was a lot of suggestions that I really ought to really ought to go into practice of law. And I interviewed a couple of places but I was really interested I was more interested in getting the economics speech and and working it out with state or some other land grant so that that led to a a basically a college scholarship. They call it assistantship and there were no assistant ships law school except mine and they got some money from USDA. So I was able to able to survive and by that time we had our first son first child. And so that was a good experience and came back up here and worked on my pitch day I got the degree and I finished it in the fall of 1964 and graduated class of spring. We were still on three terms. And so I actually graduated in February or March of twenty twenty nineteen forty. However I'm Rovner 60 65 finished in 65. So I had an office in the building to the south. We didn't have this new building here. So we were up on top of the upper upper reaches there and about there were three or four departments in that little rental building that they built this building and I was very pleased. Well that was the case. I became a distinguished professor in 1976. I started in December of 64 and cut me totally by surprise. Nowadays those who think they should get that status push and lobby. I didn't think about it. My mentor had been my major professor John Timmons said well there's faculty meeting that day I think we should go over all right go with it. So I went over to the room. What's a animal science building. The main one and their big auditorium and I was stunned to learn that I became a distinguished professor at. Well I've been there about 10 not quite 10 years. So I became interested in publishing and publish and Laurie articles and then I had been an opportunity to. Write the first agricultural law treatise and that's 15 volumes. And we we really worked hard on that and I'm giving it up this year because of age has been taken over by a guy who's been working with me but that was a big thing in nineteen eighty seventy nine seventy eight seventy nine eighty along in there and a one I finished it up in 81 then we had here a problem how to start this out with we began to realize I did and some other few others did that agriculture was in trouble deep trouble and it was because we had been reckless at the federal level and interest rates and inflation was 15 percent. And so I began to get worried and I many many criticized me saying that I was over the regime but it was the farm debt crisis. And I was for about five years I was just totally immersed in that and I finally put it down in book form. But that was what really really gave me a lot a big boost with the public because it turned out that I was pretty much on target of other critics who said is wrong wrong wrong. This is just normal kind of thing but it wasn't and farmers were caught if I had any any credit at all there were interest rates at twenty one percent and those who had been borrowing money because they could get the best deal with the short term loans they were cut they were cut about a third of the farmers are in deep trouble. So I put all of that in here and that was another step in with the with Iowa State and with the public. I. See here. I am a Yes I did make notes. But after right after that I had subsided which is just about my life there for about five years. Sure. In nineteen ninety. I was flying down to Florida because I was on the island. It's this University of Miami. The State of the incident say planning and I was publishing in it. And so I was I had flown down and I was entering my room of the hotel. Gotta call this in the late 80s or what year was this about nineteen ninety nineteen ninety. It was about a second week in January. And the caller was from yesterday and he said I'm representing however more than just yesterday we have decided that what had happened in November prior with Poland was. A breakthrough in terms of us getting on better terms with almost all of Eastern Europe. And he said the government said three people. They were all the heads of the heads of departments prior in November to see if Poland would be kind of a guinea pig and see what we could do to help them transition to a market economy because they'd been under the central planning and Moscow was was was really the force. So this guy said you've been nominated one of seven to go to Poland and lay the groundwork for programs. I said I can't possibly. I said I said. He said Why. And I said I've got I've got commitments all the way through May I was lecturing a lot. That was started early on. By the way I'm running seminars as an aside. Recently I added up and concluded that I had had about thirty four hundred seminars in 17 states. Forty three states 17 foreign countries and my wife kept asking them what the world are you going to do next. She was a little bit perturbed that I. Work Day and night. And that's maybe a little bit extreme but in any event I said to this guy on the phone I said I just can't possibly go. I've got commitments here all the way through the end of our term in the spring. And by that time we were off to two semester. So we talked a little bit more and I explained in detail what. Had happened to causes. And I said I just can't put the phone down. He gave me his telephone number and I turned around and I said all this may be the most important thing you do because we need badly to bring about. Some degree of good relations with all countries. So I turned around and redial him and I said I will figure out some way. So I was in Poland for two weeks and we came back with a commitment. Our group had a group of seven hundred. Somewhat reluctantly agreed that the big issues are credit and education. And there was one other one that we laid out for them. And so we I guess I came back full of ideas as to how we could do this. And I went to our department head and the dean and we talked about what we should do and we were about to have a credit score which we did every year here for was a week. And I said Why don't we create some seats in that school for our group coming here anti-Semitism some fear by credit. And one of my colleagues said well if if that's the thing. We need to do let's create a school by itself. So we did it became it was well through the first year sort of informally and we had a very very good experience. We had 21 people come from all of the Central European countries and we. That was that was in late July and early August. The Board of Regents then created a center center for international culture finance which I held from 1990 to my retirement in 2004 probably all of us hope you don't think this extreme. Probably the most important thing I'd had in my entire career because that launched a lot of programs we had. It was a three week we had three week schools and we'd have one week in the classroom another second week with a banker or other credit agency because they were mostly bankers and people who worked with credit and we had 70. I don't think I told you this. Seventy nine of these schools here and abroad. We started out with them all of them here names and the three week school was one week one wasn't in the classroom week two. This was out with a bank or other credit agency. And the third week back in the classroom and so we were running running ragged. And I'll tell you just one more law set inside here I was lecturing in 160 in this building about why even the real estate plan needs to be subject to markets and and this is strange to them. There just never had anything like that the state owned everything right. So the front row at 160 had a big guy. It was about 6 10. They're about 35. I was about 38 years old and I can see he was uneasy and I was pretty well launched into the discussion on why why we sell land. He jumped to his feet scared me half to death. He is a big guy and he said that is immoral. I said I mean it's immoral. Why were you. It's like selling your mother would never think of selling your mother. And so I eased around it and kept on lecturing. It turned out he had he then brought together every night for the next two weeks his and the other people who wanted to come at night to talk about this is this really important. And on the last day they were here. We had a valuation and we had ours. I called a standing circle standing around and we were asking them some pretty decided questions. And he spoke first because he was the senior guy and that was when the party was still really in charge. And so he said Well the first question was What do you think you should be doing back in your home country. And he said Well first of all we need to we need to spend some time on trying to learn what modern credit is the rest of the world. And the second thing we need to do is develop a land a land market just exactly 180 degrees from what he had said the first day he yelled jumped up and yelled. Would that be immoral to have a land market. And it turned out he then admitted they had worked every evening arguing about this for these Iowa State people. Right. And they had finally concluded we were he went back resigned his position with the party and he was pretty well up to the party and became the president of the first private bank in Russia huh. And after that I was back in Moscow. I would try to get a luncheon date and he was so busy I didn't get any of the old idea that he would he may not be. The most educated but at least he is a person in that environment who knows more than they do. And so he was very successful. We really felt that this effort was probably at least in my case I think it was probably the most important thing I did in my career. And every time when we had it our schools over there at about two thirds of them were here about a third of them were over there in their environment. I'd hop on the plane and I'd say I'm glad to be heading home. At least I know what the problem is. But the next thought is when can I get back here. Because the need is so great. So that was in many ways probably the peak of my career was during that time from 1990 to 2004 because I think it didn't have an impact when Putin became the head of the state. However he ended some of that. Mm hmm. And that that we were not too terribly pleased but couldn't do anything about that. But they have continued to move slowly toward a market economy. And it was good for us because it gave us an opportunity to to try to help us someone we pioneered an idea of how you how you move ideas from the United States or any other Western country. How do you move that into a country that doesn't believe it. And we kind of pioneered a a bridging concept where we just had a little fat fill here. There was. There were people eventually from Harvard and other universities who tried to do as much the same thing but they would take our ideas and tell them this is what you've got to do. And they did. Senator very well. And so we pioneered the idea of bridging ideas with them and then giving them an opportunity to really act. And I think that was pretty effective pretty effective. In fact I still have some contacts over there and it's been quite a while since I retired. But it was very rewarding and probably the peak point of my entire career that I had had some very very satisfying experiences up to that point. I think let's see here. I think that's pretty much what I have I wanted to try to get on the record it seems to me there was something else. Wait just a moment here. My look at my notes. I mentioned the 15 and treaties and then I have a two volume treatise here. And let's see what else oh I'm CO. I was a co-owner of a.. Now we'll see who publishes what the university gets and it's it's a pager. Every other week. Mm hmm. And I I'm backing out of this month because I'm in a four and a half years old and I can tell the system is not doing as well as it might. And so my successor is in worse Washington state. And so he's going to take over all of this. But I think well I guess this one here. This is one of the leading publishers in law attacks and I read several articles there were several articles Larry is because I like I like to write. And to me that's that's how we leave a mark. Sure. It's it's not your own thing for example to for example but it is a way to help somebody else. And I I really feel as I look backward to that. This has been for me a perfect place to work because nobody around here does. Does it really get in your way. They encourage you to develop something that you like and help the public. And it's been very rewarding. And that may sound kind of it's kind of strange but the one thing that I regret is that I'm coming to the end of the road and that's literally the case I think. But it's been a very very rewarding career. So you mentioned that the most rewarding thing that you get from your career is helping other people who are some of the people that helped you along during your career. John O'Byrne. He was. He was Professor of Law at the University of Iowa a Harvard graduate knew nothing about agriculture but he became head of the agricultural s s Ag Center at the law school. And he finally left Iowa because his Dean was famous for saying that he didn't want people to setting up seminars in the Methodist Church on Wednesday night. He thought that was the meeting for law and O'Byrne disagreed with that. And so. John a word by my mentor that actually left and went to other law schools and these these disease now. But that was that was one he was probably the number one John Timmins in this department. This is a pick photo. It is down the hall here and he was my early mentor. I would say by high schools Morris stamps. Thermal banning several of the key faculty members have been very very helpful. And they push you a little bit. Sure sure. But mom my dad I guess would fall into that category. He was a hard worker. We didn't agree with a lot of things but he was he was and my mother as well. I had a grandfather who was significant. I think that's probably just about it. Our deans here all were helpful department heads. In fact in general it was. What can we do to help you. Because it's not a tight rope here. They don't keep you. On the tether. So it's been a great environment just an absolutely perfect environment for people who want to try to push the envelope a little bit. There were a few others but it's difficult to single out I'm sure not if we end this. Thanks. Some other people who were. Influential but those that's the kind of core. Sure. I've learned a lot from a lot of people out in the state as I did many many many seminars all day seminars and they would come up with questions and then would develop a relationship. And I'm still getting telephone calls emails letters from people I interacted with. So it's been a very pleasant kind of kind of setting. The superintendent of the school. His name was Berger B RG deceased now. He was quite influential and was up until he died. In fact he was lecturing in Fort Dodge. Here he came. He was superintendent of Fort Dodge. OK. That was his last assignment and he walked in the door and sat there and we knew he was losing his mind. But he sat there for half a day and then he got up and left. But he was really one of the early ones to give me insights into how how one can a little life. He was very unusual through northern Iowa originally. Oh I would say are the ministers of our churches. There were also somewhat influential as well and we're active here First Methodist names but there are more people out there willing to help you than you realize and gradually get to know the people here on the campus and there were lots of fact faculty that added There there little by little bit. Some most of those are deceased now but. So there's. Quite quite a significant number like that during the farm crisis in the 80s. What kinds of activities sweet and what kind of things were you doing to speak with the farmers the bankers at the time the bulk of my time was spent and trying to get Washington to change the bankruptcy law. And we were successful at and. The three federal credit agencies we're not doing a very good job of handling banks in trouble. They would move in and declare their bankruptcy and there might be some very good very sound credits on their books. And so we started the effort and I said I lecture to a big conference in Chicago and another one in Kansas City and they changed their approach and they said well when we close a bank we will not cease altogether. We will keep the good look good credits so they don't suffer. That was one of the big problems that we hadn't had a a major downturn in recent years. That was back in the 30s. But most of it did go through the 30s. So we've tried to get that to their through their heads and we've eventually succeeded. It was one of those things where there are established approach to something was just wrong. When you get a large number a third of the farmers are in trouble. Third of them had two thirds of the debt. And so we've only got one guy came to my office. He's deceased now from Pocahontas County. And he had tears in his eyes. He said I'm not in trouble but they closed my bank yesterday and I can't get I can't interest in any other bank. It's take me on. And he wasn't in trouble but he was he had a lot of debts. He ended up with thousand and 40 acres but he was just almost destitute because he was in the middle of this bank that failed. So that was one of the. More significant outcomes. They knew bankruptcy law was passed in 87 and that was very very important. Chapter 12 bankruptcy. And we've published quite a bit about that. I've got these scattered around but that was an opportunity a real opportunity to try to to change the system's approach to a new new problem that they hadn't had before. I did a lot of speaking and defending. There were a lot of people in agriculture who were well off and they were looking down their noses saying we got through all this in the 30s in the 30s. Why can't these young guys get because they the bulk of them were under 40 years of age or trouble. And so the. Idea was that we had to get to this group because they were influential and sometimes they were on the bank board. And so it was a it is a step by step effort to try to get them to see what they were doing to people who had the potential to be repaired and and maybe being a normal operator. That was it was as it was it was painful but it was one of the few situations in my life where I occasionally would feel that I just wasn't making any progress. That was early on especially. But as we moved further further into it and we succeeded with the feds that made a big difference right there. So. It was it was a real opportunity to do something that did have a payback. Actually I'll never never ever ever forgive that love as I live. It was painful for me and and yet I just. Felt I had to be driven on on on on it. There were there. There were three problems. Federal problems at the same time. Two plus this one. And one of those was some banks in South America or in deep trouble and we had a lot of U.S. firms have had money there and there was another one and I can't remember what it was but any event every time I went to Washington. I went to in the year 20. And in the year nineteen eighty four it was the first year. Must have been. Well it was the first year of real real panic. I lost track of what I'm about to say to the banks down in South America. Oh yes. Yes. So in Washington they would say horrible. We've got three problems on our hands and they've named them. And you're third and you're in here asking us to do these things. And I said yes because it is important. But it was the secretary of agriculture resigned because he's familiar by because he had bought some land right before this got to be a big issue. And I was in there for a meeting at the Jefferson room at the White House and in came well we had about we had the dean from here and we had this to others I think and we were in the. That is the Roosevelt Room in the Roosevelt Room I'm sorry. That's just about three or four paces from the Oval Office. And the guy who was late coming in Virginia right off but he was one of the keys and he's an Easterner and knows nothing about agriculture. He came in and. Pounded the podium and said What in the world are you people up to. And so I responded. And he just railed away and got nowhere with him nowhere. And I was that was 11th of January of nineteen eighty five member. Never forget that. And it was one of the times when we were face to face with some of the people who could have done something more in Washington. And he was one of them. As it turns out. What. What we had encountered was this. There was during the nineteen seventies there was a lot of because credit was easy to get. Interest rates were pretty attractive. And so people expanded and the new the newly appointed head of the Fed came on board in August of 1980 and he started tightening up. And of course that really was the beginning of all this. When they started tightening up on credit and. Everything was what it was it was changed and it was it was painful very painful to be to be involved with that. And we in the Roosevelt Room. Argued for about an hour and got nowhere with this guy. I wish I remember his name. He was in the news all the time back then. He is an Easterner and I didn't pay much attention to anybody else. Mean everything. So it was it was pretty painful but we then went up to the one through several other departments and. Federal Government and we got much better reception. But this was in the White House. And although the president wasn't getting it back he made some of some comments at meetings. One of them was a liberal poet. He was in the middle of an address and he said by the way this farm problem we need to. See if we put it we need to sell the farms and sell sell. Sell the farmers and and keep keep the wheat. I think he said and that was just a slap and it was it was not my favorite period. 11th of January 1985 and we were there. Right there. The Roosevelt Room was pretty small and it was full. And I think we did make some progress. I think we did make some progress but we went from there up to. The other department and they were much more. Much closer to understanding the problems and what needed to be done. But the White House wasn't a word. This was the first term of Reagan and he was he was not really except he made that one comment. I just told you about it. Well that was that was what Reagan did that. So bye bye. Book has always said it for anybody who wants to. Well let's try to. Get into greater detail the farm debt crisis 80s published in 1990. I've got just one more question and this one goes way back. But I was looking through your CV and one of the things that you noted I think is like in 1968 69 you were one of the first in corporate raiders of the Black Cultural Center here in town. How did you get involved with that. Good question. I should have mentioned this in my discussion in 1970 I say nineteen sixty nine. I became a member of was this I was an adviser to Fisher. Oh OK. And this is fun. We had a fair amount of tension on this campus and it was kind of complicated. Some of it was racial. Some of it was other kinds of things. And I was I was on behalf of the senior faculty advisor 69 70 at 71. We had. Some some real tension and we had some riots and after the first year 69 we met in our basement. Our home. We just built a new home and had the whole whole group of leadership on show. It was after Fisher was held there was kind of a take take a look at what we did and what we should have done what we were better off hadn't been done. But there was a suggestion. That we should that we should provide some funding because in those days we were making a fair amount of money for a black cultural center on death row. Yeah. So you know we all champion what's happening and so we got some money together and we should put in the bulk of what I think we came up with in those days it was a lot of money but we got three thousand from. I think it was a credit agencies downtown and we put quite a bit of fish out of fish accounts and such a pretty vicious centric way was split. Just about down the middle and that shot me up. I got to come back for a little sideshow here but we finally after two or three meetings of the Central Committee we finally got a bill a motion through and I was shocked at some of the resistors but they just didn't want to have it done. Didn't they use their money for that and we've come a long way on this campus. But back then it was it was tense. And as as an aside I was on a Saturday morning called I'd gone out to place out in the country where they have meetings and I was called to come back to town because a there was a rumor that a football is a black football player had raped a white coed. So I zipped back and tried to defuse it. There was really no evidence at all showing but tension was about as high as I've ever seen around here. And we had significant problems in that time period but out of that came the black cultural center which is still there. And I was on it. I think I was treasure of that officer position for a while. I get so busy I just couldn't do it. But one of the that double back here one of the persons I'd gotten to know was black from Chicago. He was studying to be I n indeed bright bright guy and Fisher was running some contacts with other cities about what was going to be transpiring during hiring Fisher. Mm hmm. And he was he was involved in that but he couldn't. He said I don't have a car. So I said OK take my brand new but not quite brand new Mustang. Take your kids. And that's shocked a lot of people that I would turn him loose with my pride my prized car. And he just was happy as a clam and he drove up to Waterloo. He had some maybe meetings up there and then came back and it was a real lesson I think to a lot of people. And so I think we've made I would state has made a lot of progress in this area. We still hear people say we we we are welcomed here. And I suppose that'll continue for a while but I think we have really come a long way in terms of our relationships with each other. I was fully convinced. We had in our high school one black he was brought there from Alabama Mississippi I believe by the local MDA to be his houseboy one black in this whole town one black the whole school. In one week graduate he is in my class. He got the award for citizenship and that was a real lesson to me that I had not been much contact at all with with with blacks. But I became convinced that we've just had to work on this and work hard and work on and work on it because it's ingrained in a lot of people's minds like yours Crane and my parents parents minds. I'm fairly sure because of the remarks that we made. So that's how it developed. It came out of Michel 69 69 and we worked on it until about the end of the term. The spring term and it was very rewarding for over a month for a lot of us and it was set up as its own corporation right to. It was separate from the University which was interesting OK. But a lot of change occur around here in terms of the way people view each other. I think we've we've made a lot of reverence universities probably more than a lot of other parts of society. But I think everybody has become more sensitive. Yeah I'm glad you're glad you mentioned that because it was it was one of those rewarding things when we got all and get old and then we had visits we had several different groups come in we did our best to succeed that respect. OK. Are there any other things you want to talk about otherwise I don't think. I think I need to ask well you know keep I keep the fact I read the reason I made these notes was I keep forgetting things that are tumbling along but I think we've pretty well covered it. I mean I think the only other thing that I know that was that we have some files that you gave us on was on the sale of W white TV. Oh yes. And I know you were heavily involved and critical of that sale. So yeah I had that down here I thought. I think the sale of TV. I. Forgot the three years faculty advisor division. OK. We have mentioned that this is Debbie David. I became a heavy user of TV on TV. I was interested in how to teach and teach other than the classroom. Mm hmm mm hmm. And so in. Nineteen well probably you'll see that was that that was in the 90s. It came out there's a festering sore in 92. 1992 I had prior to that made heavy use of audio visual stuff over there and had several programs I had twelve twelve sets of video that circulated as widely as well. One of them showed up in Washington D.C. We made them available and at that time there just wasn't a lot of that sort of thing. And so I think it was very pretty successful and W TV was the middle of it and we used it for distance education and we were getting ready to use it with the Eastern Europe because we were flying a lot. And we said we just got to somehow get the funding and I believe it was one of the countries had shown an interest and they were preparing for expenses for down downloading. And so it was February of nineteen ninety two. I had didn't class. I came back I had a copy of The Daily ice and the day they said that had they put that the daily said that there would be a meeting of the board. That's the Puerto region sir. And it was going to involve the sale of the TV and I slammed on my papers. Downstairs and told everybody on the site including my secretaries that we just can't let that get away. It was really in the beginning and all the way through an effort by one by the chair of the board reasons he's dead now. He's the guy Pomerantz Anthony probably tried. He is a graduate of Utah state of Iowa. And they didn't have a TV station. And when I was there in law school they would make fun of Iowa State in various ways and then they'd get around and they're blaring out all over Iowa all proud voice of Iowa State University. So this was something that was institutionalized a year or so of Iowa. And of course this guy became chair of the board Regents. He was always trying to always track to to to to pull something off. In fact let me add something something else. When he became president. They hired eaten in Texas and he was pushing even to convert Iowa state into an institute not a university but an institute. There was a committee appointed I was on it and we were nudged to get on board and support this and a bunch of us said no we're not going to do that. So there was a real tension there for about two or three weeks. And he was all the time pushing on ornery. And even finally just resigned. He then went to pressure with us. I got a better insight into our discussion there. But that group that got to be a heated heated heated matter and we organized and I went for the reality TV we raised about one hundred and forty thousand dollars and hired a law firm and one and they didn't charges read the usual rates and we went to court. We won in the district court and we believed firmly that they had it was appealed. I was Supreme Court and three court reversed it and had no grounds whatsoever to reverse justice who wrote the opinion was a year ahead of me in law school and I never forgave him for that because he just he bowed to to our friend who is pushing all this because Iowa didn't have one they sold it for about 8 million less than it was worth. We proved that they sold it for 12 million and it was gladly valued at about 20. And we with every way we could to stop it. And we lost on appeal. We then appeal to Washington. They know the relationship of the station to Washington was through the license. Mm hmm. And so we we appeal that all the way. And I went in for the for the hearing in Washington. And finally we lost there. But we had one at the district court level here and lost on appeal. And in March early March of nineteen ninety four. Yeah went off campus but it's one of those things that I guess. I like because it was painful. I think my mind just simply rallied around. That I was present I was the president of a group that fought somebody who was told that if you were anywhere except on the campus you'd be fired. It was that it was that Stern. And it put our president here. Who was hired after Egan left kind of a tough spot in 93. The Board of Regents after this guy lost his position. We lobbied against him in the in the legislature. OK. Get him out of office OK. What's his name. Marvin Pomerantz summarizing our primaries we are now off track. Give yourself back on track here. Let's say you lobbied down at the State House with the House President JFK here. Kind of a tough spot I guess it put him in a very tough spot and he we often said that he just had one. He is a both ears were oriented toward the boy and they didn't listen. He didn't see anybody else. But the after power ads was Alison Husted from office. We learned that I had received their award. Are you aware wear this but it's a friend. Now it's called but it's it's a word given by the Board of Regents to outstanding faculty. And this award was given in Cedar Falls. So we drove up to Cedar Falls Pomerantz came in about five minutes late night looking with left or right. And he had a history of always presenting this reward. He went and he was so they sat down in the corner and didn't say a word all right. And because we'd ask him and then continued. Of all the way lost. So that was that was it. Once it was time for 92 to 94 but we lost him during that same time we were doing the international agriculture finance stuff too. So he must have been really busy. It's. Just that you're absolutely right. There were days when I didn't know much except when we were fighting a fire. But we had a lot of support. We had retired deans we had retired faculty. Some of the current faculty were supportive but they didn't want to be too open about it because they felt let it be repercussions or something. But it was one of those things that very easily blew away. But it was a sad sad occasion. But you're right it was right in the middle of our most busy time in terms of trying to keep the one going abroad and here as well. But we had some good people. One was a guy who had been a banker and he resigned and came down as my son and my assistant and then he died of a rare rare. Malady. He went down for some kind of a procedure I would say and they didn't claim the equipment and there was a very very rare disease that got out and killed. It took three years to kill him but it did and it just apparently carelessness on the part of the people who clean the covenant between events from. So. That damn well that one's always been a tough nut. To clipped but haven't the OK. Is there anything else you want to cover. I think I've covered now everything so that I had on my life and I think I've spewed enough. I thought I had a copy of that's just the 16th edition the 19th edition has a detailed. Rundown on what was done and I thought I had won here but if I can I can I can bring one in and drop it off to your office. OK yeah. If we don't have a copy we would take one. This is this is the 16th edition. This is. And that's the book The Farm estate and business. Well it's it's farmer state business planning to do 200 thousand copies. News and I. Sure I had one of those 94 edition there's 80. I was in here over the weekend and 16. I think this is probably about the same as 98. You take that OK it's in the back. It starts on the back page and it carried over carried over the next two levels. Gotcha. All right. And the meantime I'll compare the two at home and bringing in the 19th. If there was anything significant. OK sounds good. All right. Well if there's nothing else and I think we'll stop the recordings here then. Well of five to twelve. Thank you for an opportunity. I'm. A little reluctant to to blow my horn if you will but this is an opportunity to get them. Once you pass from this earth people tend to forget you. Mm hmm mm hmm. So this an opportunity to be sure that Mark has lived there you go. All right. Thank you Dr. Hall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29161/file/96791#t=0.0,5801.4302"}]}]}]}