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And I recall,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158968#t=1847.2,1852.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158968/transcript/36767/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uh, perhaps using his first name, Alfred L.F.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158968#t=1852.12,1857.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158968/transcript/36767/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"already, and he's American, African-American. 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OK, I'd be delighted to. I have two siblings, one older by a year and seven months and the and one younger than I am by a year and seven months. We are rather close together. Both are still living. My my oldest sister and her family live in Washington, D.C. and Chevy Chase, Maryland now. And Dorothy, my younger sister, lives in Washington, D.C. So they are both and her family both have children, both living in the D.C. area. So I'm the middle child of the three. We had no brothers, just three three daughters. Uh, my parents were farmers. In south Georgia, we and we were sharecroppers. My mother was educated to the third grade of elementary school and my father was illiterate. He never went to school. Her name was Alma Watts Campbell years. And as a matter of fact, Ola Mae, I think of a father now, given that today is Mother's Day and I'm wearing a white flower signifying that she's not alive. But I certainly have thought about that today. My father was named Willie. Will it be Clark? I don't know what the bee stands for and I'm curious about that. So maybe one day if I do a family history, I can research that. He was not educated, he never went to school, he was one of 13 children with two sons in the family. He had an older brother, a younger brother, actually, and 11 sisters. My mother had seven brothers and sisters, so they were 12 and her family and she had a number of half brothers and half sisters that we got to know as well. We grew up in an area of Georgia, south Georgia, about two hundred and twenty five miles south of Atlanta called Pavle, Georgia. That's where I was born. Pepino is just a small town drive through and we lived there through until I was about 10 years old, maybe a little less for me because I went to live with my grandmother before the rest of the family moved, moved out. My grandmother lived in Cooler's Georgia is so it was about 50 miles from pavol and closer toward Thomasville, Georgia. Thomasville and Moultrie, Albany, Georgia, were the better recognized places in that part of South Georgia. We live there until a book while I was in elementary school, I went to elementary school in Papageorgiou, then with the elementary school and college where I lived with my grandmother's mother. Early on, I suppose when I was about 11 or 12, my parents separated. My father moved to Belle Glade, Florida, and my mother then brought my two sisters to live with my grandmother. And also all three of us were living with my grandmother. We. So that was our state. And at around Papageorgiou, just before we got to high school, we were in elementary school still, but we moved to Moultrie. So I grew up between two communities, first Pavol Georgia and then Moultrie, Georgia. That symbol you is Molterer at that time had a population of about twenty five thousand people. Today is about 17000, much less. But that shows you what the trend and probably has evolved similar to quite a few of those other towns where the market moved, the market changed, and then the the industries changed tobacco industry cars. So that was now the community. Both those two communities were different. So it would take a long time to describe the character of Pavol the Black Community around Papageorgiou, which was a very rural and the black segregated community around Moultrie, Georgia. Everything was segregated in those years. This was from extended from about nineteen thirty eight when I was born up until nineteen fifty four when I went to college. So some of those school years, elementary and high school, were segregated years for me. Very much so. I'll stop there and, and see if you want me to expand on an aspect of that. And I'm one of the things that you might talk to a segregated school system. What kind of school system was it? I mean, did you have the next question is going to be your early experiences with science, what got you into science, what you know, in the segregated school system? Well, the, um, I think that inclination toward an interest in science probably started early on before we formally recognized that, ah, you know, your teachers finally recognized that. I say that because I started school at age four and this one room schoolhouse around and Pavol Georgia and the schoolhouse was the same as our church, a Baptist church, which was quite rural, you know, and, uh, quite well attended because that was the main assembly place for the whole community. Um, we were taught seventh grade by one by the same teacher in this one room schoolhouse early on. My sister and I, my oldest sister and I showed a considerable aptitude and interest in learning. And we got the grouped with the so-called smart kids. As you know, that was a way of describing those who could learn about any subject. I think that the recognition of the effort to talk learning early on probably was the beginning of that recognition that you had the ability to do science subjects. And because there was the strong interest, you also had the, um, that was another indication of interest. But I was not exposed formally to science subjects as such until I got to high school and that, uh, I went to high school starting in eighth grade and Moultrie, Georgia, by that time we had moved to Monterey. And there, um, what I was exposed to campus chemistry experiments and mathematics. Uh. The teachers recognized, particularly at our principal, that I had a strong capability for the science subjects and I found them personally interesting, very interesting. But Jeanette, I think I find them quite interesting because they were they were more challenging than my other subjects. And the teachers were so seem so pleased that girls could do sciences. And so that was the beginning, I think, of my early experiences with science there in the high school. We did not have field trips like young people who have now that would expose you to science museums. So the zoo's or sophisticated laboratories that would a your appetite for science. We just didn't have those experience at the lab. That's my next next question. We had labs, but it was mostly a demonstration experience experiment. It was not the kind of, uh, highly developed lab like we had in college. It was when I got in college my freshman year when I had to complete a course, I was expected and I went to college because I was going to major in home economics. Before we go to college. Let me go back to the teachers, OK? The teachers and the school, were they mostly African-American? And they were. Yeah. Were they mostly African-American? They were all African-Americans. And they understood enough to encourage you to get the next question. Did your teachers or your principal in the school, high school, elementary school encouraged you? Very strongly. So as a matter of fact, that was the teachers and the some women from our church were out and and our parents, but the teachers especially. And so women from our church who had some education were our main source of encouragement. And the ministers of the church, it seemed like the people who had been exposed to education and who had more formal education were the ones that were so clear that we had the abilities to succeed. And they were they were the pushers. Now, my mother was eager. She just she just gloated. She was just so proud that she would get these great reports about my sister and me, how conscientious we were and how diligent we were about us, that is, and how we didn't goofballs. She was very proud of that, but she was never quite sure how she could help us advance and use that ability. She relied on that principle and our teachers to be able to tell us that, for example, she couldn't tell me what the environment around Clark College would be around Dillard University, where my sister was. But she could keep us she could protect us from community, um, you know, in a home, in the family. But she could not be the advisor around education that I had teachers for. But she was part of an effort to encourage us. So we had a combination of so peoples that we needed more support and each brought something different to the table. So the question, did I have encouragement from a guidance counselor or teacher? Yes, definitely. But I know I can see more clearly now what they offered in a unique way was my family supported very much so. But my family had expectations of economic health because of the education. So they were they were long eager for my sister and me to go off and get an education, to be able to come back home, get a better job, earn my pay and help the family. So they knew that they would be the beneficiaries of my getting an education. They are the I have encouragement from other adults outside of my family. Yes. And very clearly the people in our church, because we saw it reflected their pride. And it always seemed like we were carrying a beacon, a torch for them, and they were depending on us to help bring blacks into an era of. Opportunities, so they they were expecting back. I think that clearly that's what they felt needed to be done and they felt that we could help do that. So, you know, Jeanette, I've never sought it out as well as I'm able to do now, but we did. But each group, family, local community and our local communities, there were lots of people just like my father who could not read and write. My stepfather never learned to read and write. He couldn't write. He had two daughters by previous marriage, but he couldn't write them a letter because he was illiterate. Yet he was a tremendous broom maker. He could use the machinery to make brooms, but he could not. So he was a tradesman. He could not read and write. There were a number of people in our community that way. So they educated. The degree educated were far and far in between. You know, they were they were just scattered. The degree educated were the ministers and the teachers and the teachers. Yes. And some that was some insurance people who had a few years, but they did not have the formal degrees. And they they could not describe the kinds of. You know, the universities and colleges that we might apply to. So it was quite a village, as they say, you know, it takes a village to raise a child and not to sort out the participants of the village and what each uniquely provides for us. There were a number of adults and there were white families, too. We did fieldwork in the summertime, my sisters and I, picking cotton string and tobacco. And my mother kept her day job typically, except on her day off from domestic work. She would go to the field with us. She knew that I was. Oh, she was the day she was a maid. Yeah, she was a maid. Yeah. She would trust some families to take us out without her supervision so we could go work for them. And we got to know those white families very well. And they they would encourage us. They would be proud that we were smart in school, so to speak. That's smart in school level. Get you got tagged with that. And that just follows you, as you probably know from your own experiences. But I think the big part of that label, too, was that you were conscientious, conscientious, and so I was there for them. Yeah. And the next question, I think we've sort of mostly covered about studying science in primary school, secondary school as well. So now we're up to the college. Where did you go to college and how did you apply to a college? I mean, how did you decide who would encourage you to go to the college? Yes, well, in choosing a college, I think I was typical of a lot of the young people who had aspirations to go to college. The first one you learn about in somebody else's background, that's the one you say I want to go to, especially if you admire that person. Hampton always stood out when I was in high school as a college that I wanted to go to, and Hampton was out of state. It was far away. And it was but somebody else that I learned about through Black History Month or who had come to our school, had gone to Hampton and Black History Month. Well, then it was Negro History Week. It wasn't Black History Month. It was the week of celebration. Of course, we celebrated black heroes who had achieved and we heard about Tuskegee Institute and Hampton because those were the earliest schools that blacks had attended and they were connected with the poverty. Washingtonian George Washington Carver. Somehow I had heard about Hampton and up until my senior year I had thought that I would go to Hampton School. I wanted to apply too little that I know I didn't know anything about the finances and all of the application process and the procedure for getting admitted. However, during my senior year, the recruiter for Clark College was Clark College, then came to our high school. His name was Mr. Hamilton. Harold was his name, Harold Hamilton. He had a nephew named Harold Hamilton. But we all call it Dean Hamilton because he was the dean of students, dean of men. He was also the college recruiter. He came to our high school and Moultrie talked with the teachers about the students. And he then they introduced me to him and he suggested that I consider Clark and he knew about my need for financial aid. And he said they could give me a tuition scholarship and offered me a job in the registrar's office, offered me a job, and they did. And that's how I decided to consider Clark High Up or the principal of our school. I graduated from Dillard University in New Orleans and my sister chose to go to Dillard because she wanted to study to be a nurse and they had a bachelor's in nursing program. So she went to Dillard. And because I was offered a scholarship to Clark, I decided to go to Clark in Atlanta. And that was a huge step forward for our family because of where it was. Atlanta was the Mecca. That was the big city. A field trip to Atlanta was something to behold, you know, for us in south Georgia. And we did it to go up to see the state capital. We would write papers around what we saw on the field trip to Atlanta. And that was a tour that eventually all the seniors got to take us. Before that, we will make a tour to. Albany State College campus in Albany, Georgia, which was 35 miles away, that was a big deal to now young people. You know, they start going to those places when in elementary school, probably. But that was the way I chose to go to college. And as I mentioned, that my major at that time was pre decided to be home economics. And that changed along the way because I once I took the course in chemistry to satisfy the home economics major, I just learned how exciting instead of chemistry could be. But I fell in love with the laboratory chemistry, the chemical chemistry lab for the first chemistry course. And I also met a cluster of students from other places who who were very interested in the sciences. And we studied together for that chemistry course. And Avon current cluster of loss was a fellow and Alberta Ferguson. She still lives in Georgia. Avon, I think lives in California now. But we had fun. And then the second year of my freshman year came back to Alice Springs, who became head of the chemistry department at Clarry. He became probably the closest mentor that I had ever had because he then observed the chemistry majors. By that time, I changed my major chemistry under his tutelage. He said that would be a good choice. And I told him I wanted to be a research chemist. And you see, I picked that up from George Washington Carver, learned about the chemistry department, and Clark was in a separate department or you said you started with some economic team. It was there was special a separate chemistry department. Yes. The Home Economics Department was separate. And it had, uh, it was had a lot of majors and chemistry. There was a chemistry major. A car. Yes. What year are we talking about? We're talking about 1955. I went there in the fall of it for OK. And and you start to major your first year, in fact, made you the first year. Yeah. OK, back to came in February of the second semester, 1955. All right. OK. Continue your mentor a clock. Yeah, I chose to minor in mathematics. So that's the question to major in chemistry and mathematics. OK, you make reference to AP Advanced Placement courses. We had nothing like that from high school. Yeah, that's an idea. So we did that. So I. So you minored in majored in chemistry and minored in mathematics. Yes. And what did you try to do when you finished college? Well, before finishing class at about my junior year, I was quite confident from conversations with Dr. Spriggs that I wanted to be a research chemist. And I was informed around that time that I would need to get an advanced degree in the Masters or a doctorate in chemistry. And back to Sprague's was the kind who encouraged me and Avon Kirkland to do both. He was really good and he had graduated from Washington University in St. Louis. So back to spring. So, you know, the question was coming up, which graduate school would you prefer to attend? And again, I looked at a set of people that I had that I admired and I thought were very good. And then I asked, what graduate schools did I go to? And a Dr. Hale, who was in charge of the business department clerk, went to University of Chicago and Dr. Mecham and Mace, who was president of Morehouse. He went to the University of Chicago and Dr. McBay, who was a professor at Morehouse, professor in chemistry. And those two departments always worked very closely together. He went to the University of Chicago. So I said, they are really good. So I want to go to the same school they went to. And so I chose the University of Chicago for my first choice and of a graduate school. And I needed to make that choice early because Dr. Spriggs had encouraged us to apply for Woodrow Wilson Fellowship. And that's a long process. He encouraged Avon Kirkland and me both to apply for Woodrow Wilson Fellowship for Financial Help with graduate school. And you know, John, that we both applied and we listed these schools as our favorites. Avon, this is Washington University in St. Louis is his first choice. And I listed the University of Chicago was my first choice. Washington University in St. Louis started back the spring school as my second choice, and the University of Minnesota as my third choice and the Woodrow Wilson Fellowship Office. I presented our applications to the universities that we completed and I would say they negotiated in be here, but they were sort of our sponsors because we were getting a full fellowship. But that first year and also mine was renewed for the second year or two for the Woodrow Wilson program. And both Avon Kirkland and I were accepted to our first choice schools, mine and of Chicago, and a long lasting university in St. Louis. And we both received the Woodrow Wilson Fellowship the same year, which was very unusual for two students from the same school. Get one of those very prestigious fellowships. I think since then, though, we have shown both Avon and I over the last 50 years what we've done about four to five years now, that it was a good choice, that, you know, for the the fellowship, the foundation to choose us in Princeton. I you know, um. But that's that prompted me. That's the background. You're your choice by your mentors is how you chose your college. And had you considered what the chemistry would be like if you were going to major through getting a PhD in chemistry, you chose the school because you have the mentors, but not because of had you looked at what the chemistry departments were like? No, because. Well, I did along the way and because Dr. McVeigh was so top notch, he was so he was so brilliant. And I just felt that the curriculum and the the the reputation and the strength of the professors just had to be top notch to Chicago. However, for the University of Minnesota, it was something about the faculty that impressed me. We used the physical chemistry book at Clark. What about physical chemistry? Books was five was written by two people called one name Dr. Fairrington and the other. Dr. Daniels is a well-known physical chemistry by being called parenting and Daniel's death, and that was considered an easier one than one written by someone named Moore, who was at Wabasha College in Indiana. But we we did select the problems and readings from more. But standard textbook was bad parenting and Daniels and physical chemistry. And those two professors were at the University of Minnesota. So that was my lead into thinking that the University of Minnesota must have been a good school. But I did not research and that the my professors concurred. They concurred that the three schools that I had selected were excellent schools. But there was something about the University of Chicago that I did not know at the time I discovered after I got there. And since then, people have confirmed that he had that reputation for being more liberal, setting for blacks and Jews in those years. And, you know, no one ever said anything against University of Minnesota or Washington University, but it did not have that reputation for being open and accepting blacks and Jews. I learned that later. Now, I'm not sure that that would have been the attraction, but certainly that it was good to have lucked into that kind of environment. No, I did not have that kind of sophistication. We were, I think, in those years, quite conscious of the acceptance issue. Jeanette, you know, why would you be accepted for which which environment would be friendly to you? Because of segregation and stereotypes. And, uh, so that was that was the issue. Now, luckily, as you know, the state of Georgia provided some tuition support for blacks who wanted to graduate education, but could not be accepted by a school in the University of Georgia, a public institution. And they provided us with my first two years at the University Chicago, a check to cover part of my tuition. So I had that in addition to the money from the Woodrow Wilson Fellowship. So that was sort of an export tax in my favor. And, um, yeah, let's step back because I didn't talk about whether or not you did any research and your undergraduate school clerk. Uh, yes, we did a small research project with undergraduate research, part that we call with Dr. Spriggs. And I recall, uh, perhaps using his first name, Alfred L.F. already, and he's American, African-American. 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I think that was a then analytical technique being used by Dr. Spriggs. And that's that's the level of it was more sophisticated than our routine experiments in the lab. And I recall learning about chromatography then and how you you separated a medium into different components. And it was the equipment was big and bulky compared to what we now have and what was later used because it's tidy and kind of top and just not the floor, the floor standing unit that was so bulky so that it went the way of computers. You know, you can remember when they were big things are big and bulky, taking a lot of space and having to be pampered very differently from what we have now. But I did not do as much undergraduate research as I think I would have done had I had to work at the same time because my job on campus had to be done during regular work hours as well. And so that cut into some of the time that I could have spent in the last. So now we're at university. Excuse me, I would say Dr. Sprague's feels it was organic chemistry, so maybe that's relevant to the answer to the question. I'm going to look them up. He is deceased. He died about five years ago, but there would be a lot about him around Clark Clark, Atlanta University. He stayed there for many years. As a matter of fact, he came out of Tennessee State, I think, where he had been teaching before he came to class. And he wasn't he hadn't been at Tennessee State long after he graduated from since he graduated from Washington University in St. Louis. But he spent the rest of his career from the five till he died about five years ago at Clark Atlanta University. And he had a companion, professor, teacher, Mr. Simpson, who's typical job was to teach the non science majors the chemistry for the non science majors. That was a requirement they had to take natural sciences to. And Mr. Sampson did not have a doctorate degree. I recall that he had a master's degree and he but and he was always saying he needed to go back and finish to work for his it. But my memory of Mr. Sampson was that he was always available. You could always find him in his office. So was Dr. Spriggs. They were very attentive to students, you know, and we hung around a lot. So, OK, alcohol's there and pick up on the next. Yeah. We're now a graduate school in Chicago. You what was your idea? You went directly to. Yes, but I went there intent on staying until I got a doctorate degree. So I enrolled in the program. But along the way I received a master's degree as well, because after two years I completed enough to get a master's degree and that was then. That got to be more of a formality. So I didn't go there with the idea that a master's degree would be my terminal point, so that when I went to the University of Chicago, it was quite a different environment from Clark Atlanta University and oh, quite a contrast. And it still is, perhaps. But I think the contrast is even greater than than it is now, because Clark, the students at Clark that that set up did not bring you into contact with the kind of sophistication that you found at the University of Chicago. However, now, as soon as an undergraduate science courses at the baccalaureate level might have internships in corporations, that would bring them into contact with some sophisticated equipment and sophisticated environment. But we did not have that. So you were you graduated from Clark, quite confident and eager, and then you went to a situation that was very different, but in a delightful way. It announced itself to you as if to say you are really going to be challenged to now ask because you are it seemed like a gateway to the world was open. And that's the way I would describe it. It was the gateway to another world, a gateway to the big world. And perhaps so while I saw segregation, discrimination as horrible and bad, pushing me out to the university, Chicago was one of the best things the state of Georgia ever did for me. I would maybe it was the best thing in those times that it could have done because I wouldn't have had not been forced to go out and be challenged like that. I'm not sure that I would have taken advantage of that. I've done that at such a young age. It it was a beautiful challenge, a wonderful challenge. And I was introduced to it and I had it explained to me in a nutshell, as soon as I got there and this occurred in my first interview with my college counselor, my graduate school counselor, the person from chemistry department who had been assigned to be my counselor and to give me orientation as to what I would find in the courses. His name was a Dr. Clement. I think it was CLV EMT that the KLEMET was an assistant professor of chemistry. But I recall. In that first meeting, he was very cordial, he was very friendly, it seemed like the whole faculty had been waiting for me. They knew the backgrounds of the entering students for graduate study. But that's Clement explained to me, very frankly. But but mostly that a clerk I had been a big fish in a small pond at the university, the University of Chicago. I was going to meet at my entering class many more smart students, many smart students who had also been big fish in their small ponds. And we big fishes would be thrown together and it would be they would be a bigger challenge for me to succeed with than the students that that I learned class. But my classmates, the class, that was quite an accurate statement. And he advised me and he said, I noticed you use in physical chemistry a book called Ferritin Daniels. He knew the book and that alerted him to sort of the level of of study. We had a level of difficulty. He said, I would advise you to retake that physical chemistry course here, because it would be it's a very important foundation for your other courses. And there they use more. The book that we had referred to sometimes. But so it is very difficult back at class. And I willingly accepted his advice. So I took physical chemistry again. And but it was I was taking it with these much smarter the smart students, you know, and it was a challenge. I made a day in it and I learned a great deal more. So I took his advice and we took that course. And he was taking an undergraduate course. Yes, but but along with some other graduate students as well as undergraduates. But it was a preparation course. Some people might call that remedial my language today. But he was aware and I learned later that any course can be taught on a different level than the level I had been taught was not that did not expose me to the breadth and depth of materials that I would need as a prerequisite to other courses of. And I took it and again, and but that was the kind that was the way that conversation went. That first conversation and I was not disheartened. I didn't have and I think I share that conversation with that spruiks who said it made a lot of sense. But the I that he prepared my course load, as you call it. And I that was so I was getting used to that. We had a secretary of the department called a Doctor Parsons Piara is so. And is that the Parsons was the secretary department. He tracked all the students that kept the records and everything. He would check in with me from time to time. Again, he was always available to ask questions. He was from New York, from Brooklyn, New York. The chair of the department was a doctor, Talibe TURP that the talibe later left the university. Chicago went out to California to join a department there. Forget to name the school, but the chemistry department would have a social at Christmas time, a Christmas party event, and it would have, I think, a picnic annual picnic. And I would go to all of these events. And by that time I got to know other classmates. We had quite a few married students in the class other than a dormitory on campus and, you know, not married time. And so I got to know other students in other departments like social work, Madon mates, we call them. And I had all my meals on campus. So I it was everything was new. What you were talking there? We're talking about nineteen fifty eight. I graduated from Clark and I beg your pardon. OK, I'm just thinking I just I'm not going to comment. Oh yeah. Oh sure. Yeah. Interesting year for you as well. Sure. But I graduated from Clark in nineteen fifty eight with a bachelor's degree, went on to the University Chicago that September without taking a break. Except the summer I work that summer I started University Chicago September fifty eight and stayed there until this study through December of. I finished my work in December of 62 and then I went back. I started at the National Bureau Standards and Requirements. What was your thesis about? OK, my thesis for the doctorate degree. Well I. I decided to focus in thermo chemistry. That was the general area specialization. Know we had four distinct then, you know, inorganic analytical and organic and physical chemistry. And I decided to focus mine to specialize in thermal chemistry, thermodynamics, MusclePharm chemistry studier in the heat of materials, sidestreets, the formation of materials. And so I became rather skilled and melati because my specific thesis title is the heat of formation of living spaces, these analytical systems into metallic compounds. I can look it up. Yes, that's an abstract. Yeah, OK. And I studied I did my research on the direction of Dr Klapper leap with a white of his white and he was the first African-American student to see that. Yes, that's another one of the things that I'm trying to say. Yeah. Who were the advisors? Yes, as a matter of fact, all of my professors at the end of Chicago were white. So it was it was a world of a different color for the most part. I know black graduate students around and that were not in chemistry, though. There were these advisors of pioneers, too. Yeah, they are. They are. They are very much so that the Klepper is Norwegian and I got to know him and his family. His wife named Joy, and it so happens that she's Scandinavian and, well, he's Scandinavian, too Norwegian. And by the way, her mother lived in Minneapolis and I met Mrs. Klepper here. She came to visit here while we stay here. But her mother's passed now. And so I haven't seen her for quite a while. But once she when she came to visit her mother, I went and had coffee with her. So we kept those acquaintances through the years through Christmas cards. Oh, there was some standout differences of several times between Clark and Chicago. One is the global aspect and the International Monetary Fund. Yeah, you're coming from the rural south. Yes. And going to urban north. That's right. Tell me about this. Tell me about that transition. Well, that was it was wonderful. But I was so focused on my studies that it was almost like going from one dormitory to another one I wasn't in the for years. The clerk never. So I went to Chicago and checked into a dormitory and went to and I lived in the dormitory all the while I was there. I never lived off campus, except there was a difference in those dorm settings. The dorms at the university, Chicago, the graduate student dorms were had kitchens. You could cook for yourself. So you didn't have to take the meal plan. Did you have any problem getting in the back of students dorms not allowed? No. But, you know, some of the women did that. Oh, they did. Yes. No, I did not. As a matter of fact, I think maybe that was part of the openness at the university. No, they were really integrated. And they say, you see, I was young. That was nineteen fifty eight and I was all of twenty years old. I just turned twenty eight semesters back and they considered me young and that was some. I was coming from a very close knit community for women students all the while I was at class. There were three requirements that are unheard of today. One woman had to be in the dorm by 6:00, or if you were not in the library, 6:00 p.m., you had to wear socks or sock socks, stockings all the time. You couldn't go bare legged and you couldn't you had to wear skirts. You couldn't wear slacks except in the dorm and you went to chapel every day. These poor things were unheard of. Today is as far as we saw coming to the that was an error. So coming to the L'Escargot, I think we did have a sort of the dean of students or counselors, a blob of a oversight person. They just wouldn't expect young women to just be everywhere, do anything you want. That, I think is the best side that granted the kind of freedoms that we we are students have now. Now, as far as coming from the country to the urban setting, I had I had enough experience that these the way they are. And I don't want to take too much of time, but that's a factor in being more developed coming to the big city of Chicago than I would have been otherwise. Every summer after my freshman year, beginning with the summer after my freshman year at class, I took the train up to New York and worked as a live in maid. I got to train in Atlanta. Not my routine was this. After school ended in May, I went home and visited with my family for about a week or not more than two weeks. And then I would get the federal budget and I would get the bus back to Atlanta, take the train to Pawling, New York. Well, I travel, but has tended to Penn Station and I was met there and driven to Portland, the public in New York, that's near Quaker Hill near Poughkeepsie. And I worked as a live in maid with, first of all, until September, about three months, June, July, August, for three months and a little more. And then I would come back home, get the train back home and go spend about a two weeks with my family and then go to class. I saved my money. I made twenty five dollars a week as a live in maid and I was able to save every penny of that pretty much to apply for my expenses and college now. But on my personal of the family, the lady I worked for, I would arrange for me to go into New York City and sightsee. She would develop an itinerary with me for me and a line, say four or five things for me to see over the course of the day. Then I take the train back to Polly and from Grand Central Station. Learning to do that. Janette introduced me to the urban communities and I would, in all of the quiet of the evenings out and Polly in New York, I would have time to reflect on all I have seen. So when I went to Chicago, so I was not ready to plan to see the city on my own, but I had been introduced to some sophisticated things by then that help helped me orient moving from the big rural culture, the soul to the city. You know, I had a clear picture of what cities were like, but I prefer. And now how how much how far did I get bounced off campus to go down to the loop, as we call it? That does not very often. And I didn't yearn to do it because I was starting I had to spend so much time studying, preparing myself. But at the time of my fourth year at the University of Chicago, I was capable. I think we had hit I went down with a group of students to see a performance of something, and I went shopping with another group, but adding I didn't get off campus that much. I tell you, my favorite outing was to go to Rockefeller Chapel, which was just across from the dormitory I lived in. I would go there for Sunday services and I saw Martin Luther King Jr. there. He spoke there. So that was that was the time when he was alive. So I have some exciting experiences, but it was mostly studying for me. And then eventually I met my husband in Chicago. He was teaching at Inglewood High School and a fella on campus introduced us because. He had gone to Morehouse, this fella had been his schoolmate at Morehouse, so he took us to a group of us girls, to a basketball game and in the city where Morehouse was playing. I think Howard or some other school, it was an exhibition game. And that's where I met Judge. I had seen him in Atlanta, you know, because Morehouse students will go back and forth. But I didn't know him. Yeah. So that that's just a little side of some good luck that happened to me that helped me get used to I learn what a what a city environment and urban environment was. But I was close to three major cities there and we'll see each one from a distance. Atlanta and Chicago and New York City, I think we're at. OK, you after a few minutes, we talked about it, let's do question number eight, you talked about your experiences in graduate school, says most of your thesis advisers and everyone was white. Did they treat you differently than the other students in the school, or do you think you'd have any problems with the way you were treated? You were treated? Were you treated fairly? I believe I was treated fairly. I, I believe I was treated fairly. You know, a graduate school of world, a world like that is a place where most of the people focus on their research and their, you know, their expert witness. You once you finished your coursework, that's what you were graded, you know, along with a group year after year after you finish that, you individual and your pursuit of something. And then mostly you're there to keep your professor the year that you're doing your research on the confidence about your ability and your work habits. And so you're dependent on your professor to advocate for you. And I think as I looked at it, I think my professor was quite pleased with the way I applied myself and my conduct. He had other graduate students now whether he would rate me as his best graduate student. So I don't know what has happened to this other graduate students. And but I do what I have to do. I believe that my experiences were different because I was an African-American woman. I feel that I probably could have also more doors for myself if I had had access to the networks where the students talk about the advantages of working with this professor, that professor, or the advantages of interviewing with that person at that person. We are out of those circles of conversation and we have so many things to balance. And and we have to be so careful that we don't we shall not lose the gains we have accomplished, I have made I think we might be less aggressive than other students can be because they don't have to be self-conscious about their color and the strikes people might use against them. They don't they don't have to worry about that. And we, especially in those years, had to be conscious of at the of like being a woman and to safeguard against so that we were sure that nobody would use I being black or being a woman as an excuse to take something away from us. So I think we were a bit inhibited rather than aggressive. And I always have. And I'm sure that I suffered a bit from that that problem. I don't know what I'm making it clear. No, you are. Yes, you are. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm sure. Making it very clear, OK, after your graduation questions. But I have obviously I have it wrong in. What did you decide to do with your degree. I guess what you know. What what field of chemistry did you enter? I know you you had done thermal some demonstrators and I think you started to talk about your career, your first job. Yes. Well, first of all, what I did pick up was the slant, you know, from every graduate school. I think the students might have they might feel prepared, are expected based on tradition to go one direction or another in the industry or the academy or secondary teaching. The University of Chicago prepared one for scholarships and and I think a research lab you expected to pursue research as opposed to pure research, a full time research, as opposed to going to the academy or secondary teaching. So my I started interviewing and I think this was sort of an influence on with this kind of thinking. I started interviewing with IBM. I started the recruiters were coming around and they were mostly from companies. And I know I don't know whether in academic departments or contacting professors about the best students, you know, and whether they wanted to align those students to come and teach at those departments or whether people who had postdoctoral opportunities were seeking out graduate students, you know, to to follow those kinds of appointments. I didn't feel sought out there in that regard. And I had another constraint by the time I got married in 1961 and I had one year left to go and work for my degree. But I my husband and I lived apart that first year of our marriage so I could finish my my degree work. And in Chicago. And he was working on his master's in chemistry at Atlanta University in Atlanta. So we had a residence in Atlanta. It was a little apartment where he lived there. But I was still in the dormitory in Chicago anyway. So that sort of dictated where I would be. You know, when I finish, either he knew he was going to have to get to work on his doctorate degree, and that's where he eventually got it from. And so I knew that I would be relocating to Washington, D.C., and that then I would be working in a nearby area. And the employees there who could use my skills were at the time. So I knew that sort of carved out, narrowed my options, so to speak, because but because I was married and but in a way, I knew that I could seek a job at a federal level. And that was excellent. Once the Naval Research Laboratory and the National Bureau of Standards identified those right away as possible areas where I would apply. And and that's what I did a the boat and I was offered positions that both. But I did apply to IBM. Well, I talked with their recruiter and from that interview it became clear that my gender will work against me because the recruiter asked me. Right, if I was well, this was before I got I got married. He asked me if I was planning to get married and if I got married, would I have children. So those questions were very open and polite. And the stereotyping was discrimination was gender and not your race. 1960 to 1962, OK, race was an issue, but gender, but then had clearly emerged as a second issue, which was just as much of a barrier. And it's interesting to me that growing up. I was very conscious of my race as an issue and gender did not surface as an issue so much until I got ready to identify my major, what I would do with my major in college when I said I wanted to be a research chemist and I once I learned that I needed to go to graduate school to prepare for that, I informed my family that I had changed my major, that I wanted to go to graduate school to become a to study for an advanced degree, and that I would not be coming back home to teach economics in the local high school. That was not made clear to my family until about my junior year. Yet I had changed my major the chemistry all along. Now, it was from and on that I got the remark that you won't get married if you go to graduate school. No man wants a with more education than he has now that that's one gender not here. I was a junior in college. 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So faculty recruitment was a big issue","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1786.03,1789.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there. And Dr. Benjamin Mays was very eager to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1790.08,1794.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have me come and work. He married us. And so he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1794.43,1799.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"met my husband. And we had gotten close to him","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1800.55,1803.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through those conversations and he agreed to marry","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1803.31,1805.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"us. So we married at Danford Chapel there at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1805.68,1808.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Morehouse. Yeah. So that was the career that was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1808.64,1813.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"such a possibility. But we would have been living","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1813.15,1817.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"apart. My husband being at Howard and I would have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1817.02,1822.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gone to Atlanta then, you know, to work. And we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1822.09,1825.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"didn't want to do that. So that's what I would add","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1825.21,1829.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the mentor situation of the people from my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1830.61,1835.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"church. Those women, they were more spiritual","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1836.04,1839.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mentor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1839.46,1840.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They are my family. Our key fact is that I'm so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1842.29,1847.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/477","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"close to the church, to churches. Now I have to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1847.32,1850.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/478","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"question Dr. Pearson and which I need to add to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1850.08,1853.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/479","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1853.28,1853.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/480","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as in his oral history or because, you know, if","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1856.47,1861.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one since you were a pioneer, you needed something","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1862.62,1865.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to hold on to when.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970#t=1866.04,1869.1"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36771/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/771/original/AV205417_Reatha_Clark_King_2_a.vtt?1650911491","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/771/original/AV205417_Reatha_Clark_King_2_a.vtt?1650911491"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36772","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV205417_Reatha_Clark_King_2_a.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158970/transcript/36772/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- But yes, I would just like now from time to time when gender, I became conscious of gender as one of the barriers that I would have to because I would have to confront over and over as I worked as a woman. And so opportunities. But for a woman and a black woman, as I said, the gender barrier is one elephant in the corner of the room. The race is another elephant in the corner of the room. And these two elephants, you're going to have to deal with the barriers, you know, I had to deal with early on. And I suppose it takes one a number of years to get comfortable with oneself and content with one's image in the eyes of others so that you don't let these two elephants obstruct your ability to perform, stress you up because of stress and self-consciousness. But I managed along the way and I just decided to go ahead and do what I thought was the right thing to do. And that was the best advice I could have given myself. But I couldn't have done that without the encouragement by different people that I received along the way. For example, the encouragement of the lady who whom I worked for in New York, where I was a live in maid for Mrs. Van. She didn't have to prepare, say, a sightseeing guide planned for me to go into the city. She could have said Rippa. I think you should. I think it's too dangerous for you to do this. Why don't you stay here and do something out here of my local? She didn't do that. She just gave me she gave me her credit card at Saks and Bloomingdale's just in case I saw something that I wanted that I didn't have the money for at the time. She she trusted me. And that trust she put in me meant a lot. But she didn't hold me back. She was a homemaker. Her husband was an insurance man. He worked in New York City and they had a small apartment there. And he would come home on the weekend, take the train. And he but then she went in occasionally. But she would put her youngest child was five years old, Herby little Harvey. And he's the one I went there to babysit, frankly, to give her some relief. And then after the first summer, I learned how to cook from her and she said, let me help her with a cook. I became the cook, but she helped me get my courage and help me do things that were broadening. She didn't have to do that. She could have been guarded, so cautious, you know, but I think she had observed me enough to know that I had I would do just follow her advice that I would get off my agenda that she had laid out for me. Know. We're now at the National. Where were you with the National Bureau of Standards? Yes, I was. OK. Describe how you got that job and your person you work for. Yeah. I think you were talking to me about them. Yes, I worked for Dr. George Armstrong. He was the rector of the Calorimeter laboratory in the Heat Division. But division at that time was one of the major research division at the National Standards. I think it had about a hundred and twenty scientists and then quite a few support personnel. That is the doctoral level scientists. Well, senior scientists and some of the support personnel with Dr. Lovell, scientists as well. So he did two kinds of work primarily. Well, it did testing because, as you know, the national standards is chartered to preserve and maintain the standards of measurement for the country. And so that was an ongoing part of the core work. But in addition to the NASA's first and the major and sophisticated research projects for other agencies that contract Dr. Armstrong, George Armstrong's division or the division, did both Collins and his lab did both kinds. Dr. Armstrong tells me at the interview several people for the position. I later learned that he was considered one of the people that would be sympathetic toward hiring blacks. He was a very enlightened person on race himself, and I did not get the notice. I preferred to work at the National Bureau of Standards, everybody that I encountered at the university. But that would be an excellent choice for me has a tremendous reputation. But I did not get the notice that I would have been accepted for the job before I received the notice from the Naval Research Laboratory. It was farther away from where we want to live. So that was one reason I preferred the position at the National Bureau of Standards. Also, it was that position was more directly in my field. If I recall correctly, the job at the Naval Research Laboratory was an analytical chemistry, but I had done a lot of analytical chemistry as a part of my project. So I was I would have been capable of doing that work. If I recall correctly, I was going to be studying the acid properties or the fluids and batteries like that. There was a lot of in that and a lot of basic chemistry. I could have done the work. And but the people at the Naval Research Laboratory were quite eager to for me to say yes. Finally, I declined that. Dr. Armstrong had several people working with him, doctoral level people. One person graduated from the University of Maryland, another one from M.I.T. And all of us were doing different projects. We were sort of senior leaders on different projects. My project was with the Advanced Research Projects Agency, and that was part of it was doing it was called after a very well known agency, I think was part of the Defense Department, a very good part of NASA at the time. But I was after some preliminary projects, I sell them to head the main project to determine the heat of formation of oxygen tanks to arrive. But I did several publishable projects before then. One was the heat formation of aluminum carbide. That's refractory material. And I remember learning a lot about aluminum oxide, aluminum, aluminium. And so I was very much into material science and had to to a chemistry is it gets you into that because you've got to have the right materials to withstand the high temperatures and oxygen. That fluoride was very corrosive system when you burned it with hydrogen. So it was just fascinating work. And I still have the original papers, some of them the that we did when we did submit a report back to our core, it was we had many copies and I still have some of them around. It was not produced, published in journals. Can I look them up? Yeah, they. A note, yeah, look up your. Yes, I would. I will save you. I could email you a detailed bio. Yes, I need that and a short I need to file as part of this. And I would. I can attest there would be a. That's Armstrong died when I was, I think, at Metropolitan State University after we moved to Minnesota for sure, and I couldn't go to his funeral, but I did get a call notice from him that he had he had died. I'm going to say a short bow and. I will e-mail those to you. OK. On the road, every of the Institute of Standards, and then, of course, now you're married to your moving, you and your husband are moving to careers. Yes. So explain your career path right now. How long were you there? What what were your choices? Change careers, whatever. The pivotal moment regarding change came when my husband completed his work with doctorates and graduated from Howard University while working on his doctorate. He worked for a year in the Department of Chemistry at Gallaudet University, which is the University for the Deaf in Washington, D.C. And then that was in his last year while working on his research at how he graduated from Howard. And then we moved to New York City because he was Socrata. He became chair of the Department of Chemistry at NFL Community College in Garden City, and he worked there for 10 years. But in 1968, I had worked at the National Center for about five and years. I it was five and three quarters years because I went there January for six to three and left in August of 68 and decided we had two young sons, both of whom were born while I worked at the National Bureau of Standards. And I decided at that time to seek a job in higher education so I would have more flexible hours. And, uh, and I could better coordinate my time and help care for our young son. You know how to juggle children and work. Yeah, well, I would when each child was born, I could go six weeks from work. That was so it was early. Early. That's right. In that, you know, I lucked out being healthy myself and having some help. The children help if the children I often say if I children had had some chronic ailment or not been healthy, I wouldn't have been able to do it. But I saved my life so that I could use it for maternity leave. You know, we had no such thing as parental leave then. And I was there and you wore lab jacket. So you were not a particular distraction to someone because you were pregnant and there were some other women who had babies at the time. I remember a lady from the Netherlands whose outstanding scientists and she she had several children while we were there. But I was quiet about it. I mean, in those times, you know, you had that elephant. These were I had added another elephant to the room by then. And I was just this quiet and focused. I was I was focused that health. And we had when I went back to work, we had a lady named Disinhibits, I think, come and stay with the children all day. We had a full time helper for babysitting. She didn't do other things, but she took good care of the children. And then when they were three, so we took them out for daycare. And both my husband and I were focused on this. We were members of Plymouth Congregational Church in Washington. We both were active in the church and both of our children were baptized there. And, uh, and this was about all we could do is work caring for our children and the church connection. And we were we didn't have a lot of money, but as soon as we got to where we bought a house before we left Washington, we sold there and then we bought another house in Long Island. And now when we decided that I would give up my job, it's immeasurable sadness and move. We were moved to New York that I needed to look for a job. And someone told me about CUNY City University of New York and that there was a new college starting in Queens. I have to go back to my nose. It's just I keep my calendars from every year. I have to go back and look who told me that they had heard that this new college was starting at a baccalaureate level college and they might be looking for faculty. And lo and behold, it was York College of the City University of New York. They were in they open their doors in 1967 and they were looking for faculty. And science faculty in particular, but I own a house hunting trip to New York, I remember taking a car at what I call to and contacted the then dean of faculty there who has voted the ODI, who still lives in the area there. He lives in Long Island and asked who if I could talk with him about a job. And I went in to I drove in while we were there for a house hunting trip and had an interview with Dean boating at the time. Well, he wasn't he was an associate dean then. And I remember that meeting with him and that and what he said about it later. He had a good sense of humor. He told me later they hired me. I was to go to one, though, at the time. Now I had about six good years of professional work behind me. So I graduated from Chicago with a doctorate at twenty five. So I was going straight through. Benefited me age wise. In a way. Lewis body was his name. He used to joke and tell people, anybody who he would hire anybody in a day who was silly enough to come in and in, say in nineteen sixty eight that they had a baby six months old, a Walkman and they were looking for work. He said, I like I didn't know how that could be used against me as young as six months old. He was born in March. See this was out and he was born in March and he and I was so candid, I was so honest. And I was telling him about my responsibilities and the way I had managed. And they bought it always laughs. So anybody who was that he came close to say that stupid he would hire in a day. And he was quite proud of the way I just finished all the good work I did for you. But that was the tremendous opportunity in chemistry. Yes. I started as an assistant professor of chemistry. It was it and I had leaving the bureau. I had once been granted an outstanding performance award achievement award and gotten a check. It was a citation from the head of the division and also monetary check, which that Armstrong and I shared because we did quite a lot. It was quite a stellar project that we did that. I see this photograph. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. That was a fact. That was the fact that they may have been pregnant then. I was giving it to you. Yeah. One of the photographs there, one of the photographs on that poster was made it when I was president of Metro State. The other one is that I'm standing before a black lab at the National Bureau said, oh yeah, with a system system. And I had on a lab coat there. Yeah, they use a collage of photographs, but I advanced steadily at York, appointed as an assistant professor of chemistry, promoted soon and so on as an associate professor. And then I did vote who's going to who was the associate dean for natural sciences and mathematics, was promoted to be dean of faculty. And then I was promoted to be associate dean for National Science and Mathematics, which was head of our whole sciences division. And I had quite a few, you know, most senior people under my supervision. But it worked fine. We had several departments in that division, chemistry, physics, geology, mathematics. And I started the computer science department and also an allied allied health sciences department working with biology class Costabile. We studied occupational therapy program. That's one of the allied health sciences programs. And it was just but I went there in the fall six to eight. The college was in the second year. And when you start a new college, they need hands. And he is it's a lot of things to be done, a lot of committees to the form. And but that was a very pivotal time for all of our education, because that was during the time the student unrest, because of the Vietnam War. It oh, it was like a crucible. And CUNY, the City University of New York, was making all kinds of big decisions. No tuition, open admission. One big, one big. Decision after another, that through this system in debate and politics between the state government and the mayor, city government was always tense around cuney. So I learned a lot. That's what I'm coming up to. So I advance to a level of full professor there. And I did some research. I had research students on the graduate student who later went on to work in industry and in Montana. What's his name? And I don't know what happened is now, but I bet I could contact him because his family, he's very close to his family and he had a sister. But when you start a young college like that, you know, you're very close to your students and those who do well, you know, they are a selling point for the college to the system that you are maturing. So we track that graduate that we did. We did a lot of creative things and I've gone back and given a commencement address. I think I have a I have a poster of an honorary doctorate degree from your college. When one of the presidents left, they tried to get me to apply for the presidency. I later I became associate dean for a faculty under the demoted. So I advanced and I was in charge of curriculum and instruction as associate dean for the whole campus. So I moved up steadily. I worked there for nine years and then I was nominated for the presidency of Metropolitan State University here, and I applied for that position and was selected from four families. I came here for the interview by then. We live in Rockville Center, Long Island. My husband still working in Garden City, a great city community college, and he had to move. Yeah, you're right. That's right. But at night when I was interviewed for the presidency, I'd hear the board invited him to come out on that trip that paid his way. And he got to know people here before they offered me the job. And I I competed and they decided to choose me from the floor. And I was offered the job and we moved. And what did he do then? He he stayed. He brought me and the children out here and found us a place to stay. My oldest was downtown St. Paul's and the children came with me. We got them situated in school. One was going into the seventh grade. Twelve, the other one was in the fifth grade. He's nine. And I got us situated, just went back and finished the contract, his contract for that year because he had already signed a contract for the year. And then he came occasionally out here and then he gave up his job at the end of that year, which is the tenth here in New York. And he managed to sell our house back there. They helped us. We bought a house out here during my first year. So he decided to give up his job and moved so we can move as a family together. And our children, we lucked out. And they will be changing schools anyway because one was home from elementary to junior high and the other one was in the fifth grade. And, you know, in a playground would do them where we were. But they were all in agreement that we we were moved. They understood it. And we were very active in a church in the house, warring Methodist Church. And our two sons were very active in the scouts there at the church, had a scout troop that we enjoyed for my son as my husband was. I was a volunteer with the Scouts. So but we we did it together and came on here. And when we got here, by the time he got situated here, I was well situated as president of this Metropolitan State University. He started applying for jobs and he was hired at three a.m. and one of the, ah, research divisions. And he worked there for ten years. What year are we talking? We're talking now about nineteen seventy nine, not nineteen seventy eight I guess. Yeah. Yeah. There are years when you know what we would be for affirmative action or whatever you know. And when source industries start at the years. Sure. That I went to 1979. Yeah. 1978 is when he started at 3M. I became president of Metro State in nineteen in the fall of nineteen seventy. And and then we were all be united together as a family as of June 19, seven, eight this month, we bought our house here. That first year out here, the children and I lived in a rented apartment, two bedroom apartment. And so, yes, that was a pivotal moment. And that was the pioneer act on his part. And but it was a pivotal moment with respect to the women's movement, because it wasn't it was it was uncommon for a man at that time to be the trailing spouse are more typically women were trailing spouses. And so everywhere we went where people knew he gave up his job to come here because I was offered a job, he became an instant hero. But that's the one feeling family and our children then grew up here, moving here 12 to one and nine for the other. I know Minnesota is home. Yeah, because we lived here as they lived here before getting married longer than we they lived any other place. Whereas we we see ourselves as natives of the South. They see themselves as natives of Minnesota, pretty much. However, both were born in Washington, D.C. at Freedman's Hospital. Now is with University Hospital. Yeah. For eight months is the old historic. First of all, let me get back on track. We are on track. But ask you this question. Can A you seem to have gone through the academic years when you were at your college? Very well. You've got promoted. So I think we've covered that a lot. And I know the other question, college question, ten mentors. We seem to have talked about your mentor as we have gone through and you've named names and if you want to add anything to that. But the second question kind of you want to add any thing to that question about your mentors? Yes, I would. I've had many mentors through the years, and now looking at all of them, I could I could identify the unique niche that it had. For example, Mrs. Diane was sort of like a second mother to me because I went to work for her in New York. Is this live in as a live in maid? When I was quite young, I was, what, 17, 18? After my first year of college, she was sort of a personal mentor, not in high school. The teachers were sort of educational or academic mentors and but they were role models, too, because we young women at that time just watched had the teachers dressed up and made themselves how they carried themselves. You know, that meant a lot of my parents were really family and personal mentors. They would talk out loud about what they see in you. That girl is studious, that girl is smart, she's friendly. All of these attributes that might help you in life, people would talk to them, but they would say them out loud. Now, at the University of Chicago, I would say Dr. Clements there he was a counsellor and a mentor. He was he was mostly academic counsellor, but it was not the person, the go to person for about everything. Bill is small. He was a personal mentor. And then at the. Oh, but it was pretty. Who was that? He was the one who had a pivotal role. Was that the, I would say a pivotal influence on your life? Because he was he was when I was at the crossroads, go to graduate school very soon to be a research chemist. I go back to Moultrie, go to mouldering and work at the high school. He was there to go to grad graduate graduate school. That was the pivotal influence on your life. Now, when I left the university Chicago, that amazed Benjamin Mays very much, wanted me to come and teach at Morehouse. As a matter of fact, he had that. He had said he was confident the. I was going to do that, and so he was very disappointed when he learned that I had gotten married because that was he knew that that was a possibility. I wouldn't come to any more of the historically black colleges were very eager to get more blacks with PTSD to teach, especially from breathily universities to teach in their science programs. So faculty recruitment was a big issue there. And Dr. Benjamin Mays was very eager to have me come and work. He married us. And so he met my husband. 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So much for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=23.35,24.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that I lean on it to do. And that was to keep","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=26.83,30.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me confident and to help me deal with that fear","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=30.37,34.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I would feel to, in the eyes of those people,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=34.54,38.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were depending on me and encouraging me. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=38.72,42.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"represented their hope, the hope of my teachers,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=42.04,44.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the way they were. They were invested in me","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=44.8,48.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"emotionally and and with the expectations that I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=48.19,53.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"could succeed and I would succeed. And if I had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=54.7,58.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"failed, it would have been a huge disappointment","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=58.27,60.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to them, my family, my teachers, people in our","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=60.85,64.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"community who was cheering me on. And so when you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=64.57,69.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"got to the obstacles that, you know, that failure,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=70.99,75.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"possibility of failure, it could be frustrating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=76.39,79.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So then you would go to church for some to sort","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=79.39,83.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things out and to reassure yourself that you could","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=83.41,88.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do it and you could get through those times. So,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=88.03,91.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"yes, the church is it's been a tremendous source","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=91.3,95.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of strength for me. And it was then and it still","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=95.41,99.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=99.04,99.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"today, Mother's Day. I went to church th morning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=101.86,104.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This just enjoyed it to the hilt. And I came back","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=104.09,107.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and on my car, I put on this CD, but with the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=107.29,110.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Morehouse College Glee Club singing my favorite","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=110.89,113.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"songs. 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Plus at the church I, I met","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=116.41,121.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some renewed acquaintance with some very good","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=122.05,125.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"friends and we had wonderful conversations. So yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=125.32,129.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I still enjoy church. It is still A and A. And and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=129.76,134.76"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I hope this is the way in the lives of our","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=134.95,137.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"children. 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They could not offer the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=1111.31,1113.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"formal education, but they could offer us some","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=1113.47,1117.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wisdom that that serves one well, regardless of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=1117.34,1120.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what degree you have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=1120.13,1121.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, so I can add, is there something I should have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=1124.22,1127.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said that I didn't know you did? OK, thank you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=1127.22,1130.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very much. Oh, you're very informative. Oh, thank","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=1130.28,1133.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971#t=1133.7,1133.93"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36773/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/773/original/AV205417_Reatha_Clark_King_2_b.vtt?1650911496","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/773/original/AV205417_Reatha_Clark_King_2_b.vtt?1650911496"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36774","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV205417_Reatha_Clark_King_2_b.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73118/file/158971/transcript/36774/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- OK, yes, I would I would agree that the church probably was my main aid car to get get me through times when other people doubted me, but that was I could identify something that I needed of the church. So much for and that I lean on it to do. And that was to keep me confident and to help me deal with that fear that I would feel to, in the eyes of those people, were depending on me and encouraging me. I represented their hope, the hope of my teachers, the way they were. They were invested in me emotionally and and with the expectations that I could succeed and I would succeed. And if I had failed, it would have been a huge disappointment to them, my family, my teachers, people in our community who was cheering me on. And so when you got to the obstacles that, you know, that failure, possibility of failure, it could be frustrating. So then you would go to church for some to sort things out and to reassure yourself that you could do it and you could get through those times. So, yes, the church is it's been a tremendous source of strength for me. And it was then and it still is today, Mother's Day. I went to church this morning. This just enjoyed it to the hilt. And I came back and on my car, I put on this CD, but with the Morehouse College Glee Club singing my favorite songs. And I was singing so loud in the car with them driving home. Plus at the church I, I met some renewed acquaintance with some very good friends and we had wonderful conversations. So yes, I still enjoy church. It is still A and A. And and I hope this is the way in the lives of our children. I did not see as I came along people who so much were against me. So as much as I saw people maybe who did not quite have the confidence in me that I deserved and that and then you have to work harder to achieve so you could get the confidence and even and then to go on to exceed their expectations, which could be very low, you know. OK, that question 11 balancing career and family. You talked about you had a baby sitter when you were at the National Bureau of Standards and then further on, how did you manage how to do it with the kids and the husband to two families and two careers? Oh, yes. Well, mostly with the to do list that never gets finished and you have a to do list that never gets finished. The question is, how do you deal with the guilt and the frustrations from not being able to finish all of those things on the timeline and up to the level, the standard that you want to, knowing that if you have high standards, you know, you tend to have high standards everywhere. You learn along the way that what they say wrong wasn't made in a day and you learn to prioritize when our children were not feeling well. Those were my worst days because it's a distraction from everything else you do, cooking a meal or a lab away from home. If you leave home, if they have a temperature, is going to be on your mind throughout the day. And luckily, young children get beyond their high temperatures quickly, but that it can seem like a long time to a mother, especially if you're away from home. I probably was better at pacing myself than I realize because I would keep life simple and I still do today keep life simple. Learn to, as my grandmother would say, make hay while the sun is shining. Get a close together on Saturday. What we're going to what we're going to do with the church on Sunday, do some planning, planning. My husband and I had a routine of shopping on the weekend and we ate several meals, stayed within our budget. We were able to work together and we kept in touch with our families, his parents in Birmingham and my mother and parents in Georgia, they were they were pulling for us. So we, um, and we enjoyed our children blown away, as a matter of fact, that we almost had three. My first one was a miscarriage and that that was in Washington, D.C. And then a year later, I had the second one, which now is the oldest in the same doctor, delivered both. We took suggestions from others. We asked people for help, ask people for information, and we live within our means. But still that you've got to cope with a lot of energy and to raise a family and raise children, do a professional job, and then to keep in touch with your own family. You're trying to meet a lot of expectations there. You learn along the way to, though, that the most important people in that that you meeting the expectations of your children and your your spouse and yourself, I think young couples might do too much worrying about networks beyond that. That call circle, we spent a lot of time worrying about what a fabulous mother's parents might be. But if we keep our close circle together and remain loyal to each other and as reassuring to each other, then a lot else will take care of itself. We emphasize to our children the importance of education. So when they had a ready to go to college so long before that they knew they were going to college, we never had to indoctrinate our children about going to college. And our oldest son told us one day he never it never occurred to him at any point that he wouldn't be going to college because he just looked at us, you know what we value, what we did. What do they do now? What is the oldest one who's now forty? He's a very successful radiologist in Tucson, Arizona. He's married and has had he and his wife have three children, one eight one seven one five one three. So these are our grandchildren. The other one, Scott, lives in Atlanta. He's thirty seven. He's a photographer. He has a master's in information tech, a computer systems information technology. Excellent technical person. So they both wanted to sign science. Yes, they did. They went to Brown University, the oldest one, and for undergraduate study, when he graduated from Brown, he came back to him to go back to Minnesota with the medical school here at the University of Minnesota and then did a post post medical school fellowship in Cincinnati at a hospital there called the Christ Hospital. Scott went to Morehouse College in Atlanta, sang in the Glee Club to enjoy a better life than his father did in the Glee Club. Then he went and got a master's degree at a school there in Atlanta and computer systems. And then he went to work at Oracle for several years. And and now he's decided after that they downsized and he went out. He said he wanted to be a photographer and he educated himself on that. And that's what he's doing professionally now with contracts with different organizations. Both of our children, like their grandfather on my husband's side, very good at music. And Jay, the oldest ones, developed into a very fine violinist. Scott taught himself to be a guitarist. And then after Morehouse, after graduated from Morehouse, he went to the Berklee College of Music in Boston. And I studied got a certificate studying a guitar for about a year, a year. So, ah, but I think at core, my husband, sons and myself, we are scientists and we enjoy systems, technical work of pretty good at coordinating things, given orders of things, analytical work that says these are core aptitudes. I think that all four of us have thought, OK, we're now down to the last two questions. OK, I'm going to combine them. What do you think is the most important contribution to the field? And then have you any other things that we haven't discussed yet that you would like to talk about? Oh, most important contributions to the field, to sciences, I suppose, when you say the field is or your whole career. Yeah, I clarify that because I know that I have worked in different kinds of careers. But drawing and drawing on the same core knowledge, which is the science, is pretty much certainly my contributions in the sciences. I'm very proud of the high quality work that I did at the National Bureau of Standards, that in a short period of time I would say six years. I think I made a considerable contribution in our laboratory there, both through the experiments that I did, the design work that I did, and also the information that we submitted back to our firm. So the it allowed me to be creative and innovative and to do something very challenging. So in the sciences, I'm quite proud of that on the other and higher education as particularly proud of having led Metropolitan State University for 11 years. And that continues to be a unique of higher education institution. We were pioneers. It seems like this pioneering and all of the careers that have had quite a bit of pioneering and I'm quite proud of that, though I was not in the laboratory, the science laboratory at Metropolitan State. I can see where I was drawing all the time on the ability to innovate and to create and to problem solve that a scientist learns, I mean, that this, I would say, career aptitude of a scientist. And I practiced that problem solving at the National Bureau Standards in the laboratory and then coming to Metropolitan State and York College of the City University. If they were higher education institutions. I spent 11 years, 20 years total between the two. It was problem solving every day and I was very good at that. But I would say my core science skills, I really helped. A lot, and I both have to be analytical and methodical and to communicate the issues that were important to work the issues, as some people say so, but then coming to the General Mills Foundation and having served over 15 years as provided and the services there over 15 years, provided the opportunity to make a great impact on business. And there I learned the power and benefits from community service. Dr. Kinkella said the other night in his commencement address here to the U.S. Minnesota at Division that he urged the students to keep in mind that they were specialists with knowledge, but they were also citizens and to be willing to use their knowledge to inform the citizens and and not to forget the connection between the two. Well, I then had a great opportunity to do that over my 15 years of community work through the General Mills Foundation that made that foundation, provided a platform for imparting knowledge, sharing knowledge, enlightening people, as well as grant making from the foundation. But it was in that spot that I learned the interconnectedness of different parts of an organization, especially the connection between the board of trustees and the rest of the enterprise and the governance level and the rest of the enterprise. And I think that big picture and that and then along with the close up ability to see so many organizations and work with them, I really developed my skills for corporate governance. And over the last twenty five years, I became more and more involved in serving on corporate boards. And I think my preparation for doing that started many, many years ago. And that's a problem solving skills. Yeah, that's right. That's right. And problem solving plus communication. You've got to you need to couple the two if you're going to have an impact and to be able to share with the citizens or the citizens in the sense in the way that Dr. Kellogg was describing that you can solve a problem. But if you can't communicate your findings and your impressions in this age where communications is so important, then you're not of as much value to the two communities as you would be otherwise. So you you you got to work at being able to communicate. And in this world is growing increasingly flat in the sense of of Thomas Friedman. Yeah, I read the book. Yeah, I just bought it yesterday. I picked it up downtown. I had a yeah, I had a gift card from Christmas to Barnes and Noble and I picked the best. Well, right now, are there the experiences that I would like to share? I would say that my preparations for about everything has been augmented by my international travels and that and now that the world is gone flat and flatter, in the words of Thomas Friedman, I think we have to be mindful of the globalization and has the courage and is occurring and and that it is occurring everywhere, frankly, in our local communities as well as across country borders. But I have traveled the world and as you will see from my detail recently, I've been to numerous countries and that has that's like getting a degree when you think of the education and learning from that, that has made me a broader person and I think a better person because of that travel. That's the only other thing that I would like to I could add now to number 13, question 13. And but I would observe now that my my ah, I would say becoming fertile grounds for education, for learning from those that started back when I was going to New York, serving as live in May. You know that reaching out to people, not being afraid to go and meet different people, being unafraid to leave one one's environment. It started back then, I would say. And that is that has been helpful. So it's been I've learned along the way that attitude is so important to one's ability to work across boundaries and obstacles. I tell students all the time that your your body will follow wherever your attitude takes it, and that I suppose that's the kind of wisdom I picked up from my grandmother. And because that's what they offered us, you know, they would give us pearls of wisdom like that and expect us to apply. They could not offer the formal education, but they could offer us some wisdom that that serves one well, regardless of what degree you have. Oh, so I can add, is there something I should have said that I didn't know you did? OK, thank you very much. Oh, you're very informative. 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