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And I'd like to welcome you all to our fifth and final afternoon presentation this week. Before I introduce our speaker, I'd like to remind you all of tonight's final presentation entitled \"A Marxist Perspective On The Caribbean And Central America\" to be delivered at 8:00 PM tonight in the sunroom by James Petris. And I hope you all can come. Our speaker this afternoon is Ms. Holly Burkhalter. Ms. Burkhalter comes directly to us from Washington DC, where she's the Washington representative for the Americas Watch. Watch Miss Burkhalter became involved in human rights when she was working for then representative Tom Harkin, now our Senator as a legislative assistant. In 1983, Ms. Burkhalter was a staff associate for the house foreign affairs subcommittee on human rights and international organizations. Ms. Burkhalter, in addition to all of this is a 1978 graduate of Iowa state university. And this year was presented with an outstanding young alumni award and we are very pleased to have with us today, Ms. Holly Burkhalter.\r\n\r\n- Thank you for the very nice welcome Ellen. And thank you to members of the Institute who invited me. Your whole program is just been wonderful. I'm deeply honored to have been included among the speakers. Yell or wave your hand if you can't hear me, I'm coughing and recovering from a bad cold, so if I start to fade, please let me know so I don't, so you don't lose me. Four years ago when Ronald Reagan was elected with a large majority, there was talk of a mandate that the American people had given the new president. And from then on, the state department made it clear that they felt like they had been given a mandate because of the president's victory. I think that given president Reagan's overwhelming reelection, we're going to also hear a lot of talk at the American people have given Reagan another mandate and that the president's policies are so overwhelmingly supported by the American people that he has a pretty free hand. In the conduct a foreign affairs. I think the president does have a mandate and I think it's the same mandate that the American people would give any president. And that is the American people do not want to support tyrants and dictators and torturers and murders. We don't want our tax money spent supporting them. We don't want our military training them and we don't want the United States associated with their abuses. And I think if there's any mandate, it's that one. And given that, I'd to talk about human rights in several central American countries and one Caribbean country, and talk about what I think the the new administration, the old administration again, should do to carry out that mandate and best represent the cause of human rights in central America. Human rights policy and the actions taken by our diplomats, by the state department in Washington by our embassies overseas, is naturally going to vary between country to country. It will vary between one administration and the next. Every president is entitled to undertake the conduct of foreign affairs as, as he best sees fit. But there are some things that that can be done. In countries where the United States has a great deal of influence, countries for example, that are historically dependent on the United States the places where the United States has a large aid program for example, where there's lots of military and economic assistance, countries that rely on the United States for diplomatic support. I think the United States can have a great deal of influence on human rights. One such country would be El Salvador. In 1980, I remember I was working for Tom Harkin at that time, the Carter administration in its final days in office, granted the government of El Salvador $5.7 million in military aid. Four years later in this last fiscal year the Reagan administration gave the government of El Salvador, $200 million in military aid in the intervening four years, over 40,000 civilian non-combatants have lost their lives. Thousands more have been disappeared and prisoners are routinely tortured. The human rights record is one of the worst in the world. It's my belief that the United States has proved that we can have a lot of effect on human rights in Salvador. Let me give you an example. There's two kinds of killings in El Salvador. This is making it more, more simple than it really is. One is the death squad killings that you hear so much about, the death squads in El Salvador, as, as you all know are paramilitary non uniformed members, adjunct members of the security forces who roam the city streets at will and assassinate people, dragging them from their homes, abduct people they disappear or their corpses ended up on the city streets. This kind of thing has been going on in El Salvador for years but it has just astronomically, astronomically increased in the last, in the last four years. It's now clear that the death squads are closely associated with the security forces themselves. I mean, there is no way that a country that is militarized as El Salvador can have armed heavily on bands of, of men, not in uniform roam the city it will with lists of names taken, you know, and take people from their homes and go on apprehended without without there being some collusion by the armed forces. Recent reports that show that the collusion is more serious than that. Some members of the Salvadoran armed forces themselves have admitted that they actually have a internal security apparatus that literally chooses the names of the victims. And then the, the non-uniform members of the death squads. Most of these people are off duty policemen or thugs or people, guns for hire basically, go out and get who they want. Now the death squads have in the past been responsible for varying numbers of killings, but in 1982, there were for example, about 13,000 people killed in El Salvador. And that's the number of people that the church was able to document. In other words, they have names and, and circumstances for the deaths of some 13,000 people, about 50% of those were attributed to these, these death squad. Some of the death squads have names, they and they even leave a message on their victim to terrify. Another kind of killing El Salvador, however, our killings carried out by members of the security force in uniform. So you have army personnel or, or air force pilots or police in uniform who are guilty of killing people outside of a combat situation. Now, when it came to death squads for years human rights groups like the America's Watch, Amnesty International the United Nations, the Inter-American Human Rights commission, the OAS were talking about death squad killings, condemning the government of El Salvador and urging something to be done about it. For the first three years of the Reagan administration, at every congressional hearing I attended, regularly in news conferences, the Reagan administration denied that the death squads had anything to do with the government, as recently as spring of last year, president Reagan, and one of his televised speeches on Central America suggested that the death squad were'nt really the ultra right wing associated with the army but they might be leftists dressing up like the army to cast a bad light on the on the government of El Salvador. But in spite of the fact, everybody knew the emperor had no clothes. It was clear that the death squads were closely affiliated with the armed forces, but the state department refused to admit it. Finally, in December of 1983, the Congress was getting increasingly concerned about death squad killings. I mean, it was just blatant, huge numbers of labor unionists, teachers, peasants themselves, church people 13 priests and nuns had been killed in El Salvador in the last five or six years. I mean, these are the kinds of people who lost their lives and the problem was getting to be so big. There were so many blatant news stories about it. The Reagan administration couldn't pretend it didn't exist any longer. And finally, after pretending that death squads had nothing to do with the government for years they finally dispatched vice president George Bush who in December of 83, went to El Salvador had a meeting with 31 top commanders in the Salvadoran army. And from all reports laid down the law the death squad killings had to stop or aid from a Congress, which was in severe jeopardy. And, and that was true. It was clear that the Congress simply was not going to continue to give the Reagan administration all of the military aid that the president requested, if something wasn't done to curtail these dramatic, colorful assassinations and abductions. For example right before this time, the, the the right wing death squads became so blatant. They even abducted a member of the government on a foreign ministry of the second ranking representative in the, in the Salvadoran foreign ministry who was perceived to be insufficiently anticommunist. Well that starts to get embarrassing, you know, for our government and for theirs. And so finally we had to call a halt to it. And since then, the decline in death squad killings has been dramatic. It's clear that when, when we finally got serious and we made it clear that aid was in jeopardy and that if the killings didn't stop the aid was going to stop, the Salvadorian army and Salvadorian government simply turn the spigot down. Now, the killings haven't stopped and contrary to a lot of a lot of the things you, you read America's watched documented in the last over the last three or four months, they're still running from about five to 10 killings a month. That is not insignificant in any normal context. The idea that five innocent human beings who never carried a gun or, or were guilty of anything we're just mowed down in cold blood and their killers have not been apprehended, a month, that's an astounding astounding fact. And it's only in the grisly context of El Salvador where we've gotten so used to these incredible numbers of hundreds losing their lives every month that it can be seen as an improvement. Nonetheless, it is an improvement, 11 people killed by death squads in June, for example, is a darn sight better than 120 killed a year ago that month. And, and it seems abundantly clear that the reason for that decline is because the United States finally quit playing around, quit making excuses and said it has to stop. Now that the killings have finally, have finally started to abate a little bit. Now we're hearing about how human rights are these grand improvements and we shouldn't cut their aid now because we finally tackled the human rights problem. And I'll get more on that subject later. Another example of how we can have an effect on human rights when we really get serious about money is what happened in the, in the case of the prosecution of those responsible for the killings or the four US church women in 1980. As you know, and as a former ambassador, Bob White may have spoken of in his speech or the other night, those women were killed, and there was never any doubt whatsoever who was responsible. The national guardsmen were responsible for actually pulling the trigger. And it seems clear to almost everyone who's examined the case that the killings were ordered by high officers in the Salvadorians security forces. Nonetheless in spite of an abundance of evidence, the trial dragged on, nothing happened, no one was apprehended. Finally, a couple of people were apprehended but it was clear there was going to be no verdict. After four years, the Congress got tired of fooling around and finally did the honorable thing and and simply made a portion of aid, made the provision of that aid, tied that to a verdict a trial and a verdict in the church woman's case. And lo and behold, we got a trial and a verdict in the church woman case. Now I give that example not to suggest that the killing of four North Americans as Heney says it was, is more important, more significant than the loss of four Salvadoran lives for example. But to show that that happens to be a case that the United States Congress was particularly interested in. And when they were ready to say, no more, we're going to hold up part of your money. Voi la, the deed was done. The trial went forward and four national guardsmen are now serving sentences for the crime. As a footnote, unfortunately there was no prosecution or investigation of the higher ups who almost certainly ordered that killing, which is the real tragedy. I mean, I, yeah, I, it doesn't satisfy me that the poor schmucks that were told to go out and pull the trigger actually ended up going to jail, though it was a victory to even bring the, the trial the trial forward. But my point in the, in this case is that it's clear the United States weilds and inordinate amount of influence in El Salvador. Add to that the fact that we are providing the government of El Salvador with the very weapons that are used in these human rights violations. It boggles my mind that given the influence that we clearly possess to end human rights violations, the Reagan administration absolutely refuses to bring pressure to bear on the kinds of human rights violations that are by far and away, the most pervasive. And those are killings that take place by the army in uniform, particularly in the guerilla controlled zones or the conflicted zones. And, and this is what accounts overwhelmingly for the killings to take place in El Salvador. The Catholic church there documented that there were some 1,330 killings of civilian non-combatants in the conflict areas by the army in uniform, in the first six months of 1984. Now the statistics are hard to come by and I could go into a long exigesis on how, you know how the numbers are compiled and how we do our own documentation. And it's an interesting problem. Maybe we can get into that in the questions and answers. But the point is, a large number of civilians have been killed. A recent example of this got a lot of publicity. It was unusual in that respect in. In August this year, I'm sorry, July, just just this last summer, one such event took place. And the church human rights office was able to send a representative to the scene of the crime shortly after it took place. And there was a great deal of information compiled about this incident. And I want to talk about it a little bit because it, it it shows you how these killings take place, who's killed, and who did. The events took place in the department of Cabanas, which is a conflicted area, the guerillas have a presence there. And many of the civilians who live in Cabanas consider themselves supporters of the guerillas, that does not mean they bear arms. It means they are peasants who live in an area where the guerillas are strong and they have not left that area. They continue to farm. Many of these people turn over a portion of their crops to the guerillas, the guerillas move freely in this area. And they have a large degree of civilian support. Now, I'm, I'm not, I'm not describing this to express any particular sympathy for one side or another. I'm simply saying there are people, civilians who do not bear arms and do not participate in the conflict who alive in selves with the guerrillas. The government of El Salvador considers those people to be appropriate targets, that they are subversives, that guerilla supporters are the same as guerillas and Salvador army officers have gone on record as saying, those people are not innocent. They are the enemy and we will single them out. And they have, I mean, it's 1,330 documented killings in six months of people in those areas that's a lot of civilians killed. In Cabanas in this particular incident, the army came in, there were no guerillas in the area. According to what survivors who were still in the area told the church when they came and documented the killings and they and they attacked a community, this was not and they were not using bombs. They were not aerial bombardment, but they went in with ground troops and lobbed some mortars and did some shelling, and when it was all over, the church compiled the names of 68 peseants who died. Half of them were kids under 14 years old. And some of the atrocities that took place were so so outrageous that it, you just can't believe they happen. Kids were burned up before they died. And then you set fire to houses with people in them. And one of the people interviewed by the church was a father of a child who had been burned to death, doused with gasoline and lit on fire. And the army in uniform did that. Now that incident was unusual in that the church was able to come out with the story. They actually saw the bodies, they took photographs. We have the photographs at our office. I mean, the state department is fond of saying that you can't prove these things well, this case unfortunately we have, we have the pictures we have the names. These are people with, with lives and histories. You know, they were, they were, you know, Rosa Garcia age five, you know, we have, we have a whole list of their names and, and these kinds of things. I don't know how frequently they happen because church officials and journalists can't get into those contested areas easily. It's too dangerous. The church only has one office, and it's in the capital city and they can't get out to those outlying areas. The only way, unless they're able to send a representative as they were in the Cabanas incident, they can document these things is to take testimony from Salvadorans who have fled those areas and come into the capital city and made their way to the little church office there in San Salvador. When I was in El Salvador a year ago, I met with it with the church human rights office and right outside right outside the building, there were no screens on the window. I could just see a line of women. There were about eight of them and they had their kid, little kids with them and they were just lined up to come and tell their stories. And, you know, some of them had a picture of a family member who had disappeared but that's generally how the church gets their information. Another massacre took place in, in August and I won't go into the details but there were at least 35 civilians killed in that instance, I described those incidents because they've happened since the inauguration of the new Salvadoran president, Napoleon Duarte. We can talk about the Duarte presidency in a little bit. And I, I just want to say that it is clear that president Duarte does not have complete control over the Salvadoran armed forces, or I believe incidents like this would not take place. But incredibly, given these kinds of things that have happened. And it happened consistently over the last four years these attacks on civilians by the army and uniform are not new. Back in 1982, there was an incident at Massoni where the church, excuse me, the church estimates that 500 to a thousand civilians were killed in a cluster of villages in one particular military incident. But what I find incredible is that knowing that these events take place the state department hasn't used the influence that we clearly possess to make it stop, on the contrary. The state department has instead engaged in sort of a battle of methodology with groups like the America's Watch. And it's gone on a campaign to discredit the church human rights group because the news is bad and it doesn't look good for the government we support. So instead of going to the Salvadoran armed forces and it would seem to me, we'd have a better chance of effecting the conduct of the very troops that we trained, the very troops that carry our rifles and that wear the uniforms that we bought. Then we would in, in controlling death squads who are this sort of shadowy auxiliary group. But no, they have refused to take that step and say, look, these kinds of activities are violations of the Geneva Conventions. You know, they will, they not take place. And if they do take place, then will not take place with our weapons, and they have, they have not done that, and these kinds of things continue. So to wrap up that thought. In a country like El Salvador, which I think it's fair to say that the government is dependent on the United States for its very existence as, as the government to not use the influence that we have when it's clear that it would make it make a difference. I think not only implicates the United States in those crimes, but it's, it's, it's just wrong. Let me go on to a different kind of example about a country where we don't have as much influence on human rights. I think the case of Guatemala is one of those very special sorts of situations that can be safely called a crime against humanity. What's happened to the Guatemalan people. And this is an incident instance where I don't think the United States has a great deal of influence. The United States did have a great deal of influence in Guatemala in 1954, as you're as you're aware with the help of the US CIA the last democratically elected government in Guatemala was overthrown. Ever since then, there've been a string of military dictatorships and they've been increasingly brutal. The United States had a large military aid relationship with the government of Guatemala. And we basically made the army of Guatemala what it is today. We had a huge aid program in the 1960s for example. Today Guatemala has a best best, if you pardon the expression army in the region, it's the best trained. By all accounts, It's the most brutal. And it has been probably the best equipped at this point. Over the last four years, human rights violations have gone completely off the scale because there is no human rights monitoring group in Guatemala, like there is in Salvador there's no church umbrella organization that's able to take testimony and, and go out and do some monitoring, situation in Guatemala is so bad, there isn't even that. I don't have exact figures on how many have been killed, but the numbers run into the tens of thousands. And most of them have been the Indians that make up over 50% of Guatemala's population. The killings have mostly taken place in the increased counter-insurgency operations that have been employed over the last three or four years. And the, what it has done to Guatemalan society is almost indescribable. In the Highland areas where the, where the Indians live thousands of people have lost their lives. And many thousands more has been turned into either internal refugees, displaced people or they fled the country. There are now something on the order of a hundred thousand Guatemalans living in Mexico, there are more than 500,000 Guatemalans displaced within their own country. And who knows how many Guatemalans living in Honduras in the United States and other countries in the region. But the Indians that have remained, many of fled their communities because they've just been completely devastated by the army which moves in and helicopters and simply kills everyone they can find. And that's what's created this huge number of displaced people. The, the Guatemalan government has started rounding these people into camps. And there are now, I don't know how many thousands but huge numbers of what used to be called and Vietnam, strategic hamlets. People who've been deliberately relocated to keep them under government surveillance. All Guatemalan men and boys in, in certain departments particularly the Indian areas are forced to belong to civil patrols, which is a well, just what it says. It's a sort of civilian auxiliary to the Guatemalan army. They have to, they carry, they carry weapons. Sometimes they just carry machetes. But frequently they're used in sort of the front lines. When the soldiers go on patrol and look for guerillas, there still is a guerrilla uprising in Guatemala though, it's been almost decimated in the last four years. But the civil patrol requirement has put a huge number of Guatemalan men and boys under the control of the army. And those people are brutalized and they themselves are responsible for a great deal of the killings and disappearances and torture that goes on in Guatemala. We did a study in Guatemala a year ago, and one of our researchers who was there was able to do some interviews with some Guatemalan soldiers and some officers and some civil patrollers. And they told us themselves the kinds of activities that they, that the kinds of things that they do, and they talked about torture and they, we asked one person what do you do when you go into the village? And he said, well, we, we talk to the people. And then he said, except the ones that run. And he said, well, what do you do to the ones that run? Well, we have to kill those. And then we asked this person, did you, you know, in this in this village, did you, did you kill anyone? And the kid said only 20, but that person is, that Guatemalan Indian boy, basically teenager who's been so brutalized, and that's what Guatemalan military training is, that he can be trained and taught to go kill his own, his own people. Peasents, Indians, many of them don't even speak the Spanish language is as much a victim of a human rights violations as those he perpetrates. But I get off my point here. The point we're trying to make is that Guatemala is it is an absolute disaster. And it's an untold story. Salvador has been much in the news, but because the United States doesn't have a big aid program in Guatemala now, we did in the sixties, but it's virtually been cut off and I'll get back to that in a little more detail in a minute. It's not on the front pages of the news. I don't, I haven't seen it much in The Times and The Post and I'm sure it doesn't make its way into the Morning Register either. There aren't very many journalists there and it's just not something people know very much about. How does the United States influence the situation in Guatemala? We haven't had a significant aid relationship there in five years. Guatemala has been regularly denounced in international forum. The United nations regularly condemns Guatemala. The OAS human rights commission just put out their annual report, roundly condemned the Guatemalan government for something on the order of 60 disappearances a month in the past year. I mean the government, however seems impervious to international criticism. We can't withhold aid. We don't give them any aid. The Reagan administration keeps trying to give them aid. They keep sneaking by military sales. There were about, there was about $20 million worth of commercial sales that the United States approved the export licenses for in the last couple of years. We've had a small government to government sale. Three or $4 million would have helicopter parts a year ago but compared to what we give to Honduras, El Salvador, it's, it's literally nothing. So, so what, what can our response be and I think the United States particularly given our role in setting this, this whirlwind of destruction into motion in the 50s has a particular responsibility. But what can be done? You know that the diplomatic denunciations, even if we had diplomats down there that were willing to sit down and talk to the generals and, and, you know, go to the mat on some of these things, it wouldn't do a bit of good. And I, and I say that with the deepest regret. What then has to be done? In my view, Guatemala is such a special case that special action needs to be taken. And, and I, and I think about Uganda. In 1978 at the height of the bloodletting in Uganda, the Congress took an unparalleled step. They passed a bill in both the house and Senate. It was passed into law, which cut off US imports to Uganda, and cut off their exports to us. Thus, the Ugandans lost a very important source of particularly machine tools and and parts that they needed for their industrial base, such as it is. And they lost a very important market for their cotton and coffee. Now, as you know, with, within a year the Idi Amin government fell. Now, it has a lot to do with the fact that they were they were invaded by, by their neighbor. And I wouldn't want to say that it was a it was a trade embargo that that overthrew the Ugandan government. But I do think that the fact that they lost their market and we were not importing Ugandan products did weaken the government. And, and I think it might have had some impact at the very least, it completely isolated Uganda as the pariah government that it was. And I think that if a similar strategy were employed, vis-a-vis Guatemala. If we say, if the Congress simply said, you know we're not going to import Guatemalan products until, you put conditions on it, until there's been democratic elections, a civilian government has been installed, and the army has been brought into control or something like that. Believe me, the alter, right, the business community which is among the most regressive and conservative in the entire region, they would move. I mean, they would, they would go to their patrons and supporters in the armed forces. And I honestly do believe that the military government could be overthrown, not by us going down there with planes and tanks and guns but by Guatemalan power structure itself. And I think that we have that kind of influence. And in this special case, we should exercise it. There's one, there's one country in the region. This, this moves me away from central America for a minute where I also think we don't have much influence but where I do think diplomatic initiatives can help, and that's Haiti. Haiti doesn't get very much aid from the United States. It's the poorest country in the hemisphere. And it's got a crummy government, as you know. The Duvalier government has been in power for decades, and it's, it's very repressive. You don't see the numbers of killings that you see in Salvador and Guatemala. Basically the government is so firmly entrenched and the Haitian people are so repressed the that Baby Doc Duvalier doesn't need to kill very many people anymore. But they have, they have absolutely no opposition political parties whatsoever. Everyone that tries to raise his head is simply squashed. They have no opposition press. And literally no institutions whatsoever to challenge the Duvalier power structure. And a very repressive police force too, I might add. They regularly drag people in, torture 'em, let them go. They have a number of political prisoners and a great deal of police brutality. Lots to be done about Haiti. We don't have a huge aid program. Lifting it or not lifting it wouldn't force a change in government, it wouldn't force president Duvalier to clean up his act any. But I think there are some things, that Haiti does feel, the government does feel pressure from the United States. And there are a number of things that can be done diplomatically too. At the very least, at least help keep some of the human rights monitors in Haiti and some of the opposition journalists who attempt to publish now and then, keep them a little safer. And these kinds of things can be done diplomatically. It so happens, we have a good ambassador in Haiti. His name is Clayton McManaway. He is a, a career foreign service officer. He was appointed by president Reagan to head up the embassy down there. and he's a conservative, but he cares about human rights. He's a decent professional in the foreign service and he's done an awful lot. I, I was in Haiti in August and met with him. He doesn't like us very much. He thinks the America's Watch is a pain in the neck because he, his job is to keep relations fairly smooth with the government of Haiti. But boy, when that, when the shit hits the fan in Haiti McManaway has been right there. And let me give you an example. I really liked the story. In July, there was a crack down on the press in Haiti and three journalists who'd been associated with attempts to start up opposition press activities were drug in by the government. The papers were closed down. They had interviews, politely stated, with the foreign minister or the interior minister and the chief of police. One of these guys, a young 31 year old journalist had his hand broken while he was getting beaten up in the presence of the Haitian interior minister. Things are since a fairly crude in Haiti. The interior minister is there, a cabinet minister, and the police breakfast guy's hand right in front of him to sort of made sure he got the message. But shortly after that event, the US embassy had a 4th of July celebration like the United States embassy has everywhere around the world. On the 4th of July, they have a big soiree at the embassy and invite a lot of people. They invited lots of our Haitian government people, I think about 300 of them. And then ambassador McManaway invited these journalists, invited a couple of opposition political people. I say opposition political people. There are no opposition parties but there have been attempts to form them. And so some of these people Silvio Claude, for example of the Christian Democrats and Gregoire Rujan of the social Democrats were invited to the ambassador's residence for this little event. And that in and of itself doesn't sound very important, but Duvalier got the message and he didn't like it. So much, did he not like it, that he swiftly sent out the word that none of the Haitian government employees and representatives that had been invited to the event were allowed to come. And they even went so far as sending the police to the ambassador's residence to bring some of those people out, he was, he was hurt and wounded that we should the United States embassy would invite basically these folks who he considers to be his enemies to an event, but by so doing, ambassador McManaway and his staff went on record, we care about these people. And I think it's, I think that that kind of association helps keep those people safe a little longer. During the elections, there was a guy who tried to the Haitian elections, which had generally a forest but there was one guy who tried to, to participate. He didn't win. And he was beaten up and ended up not even getting to go to the polls himself but there was an attempt by the embassy to visit the guy after it happened. I mean, the idea being that at the very least, our representatives overseas can make it clear that we care about these things and can and can make strong representation to the government when these kinds of things happen. There's one country that has human rights problems and that the Reagan administration is trying to, says it's trying to fix by some very unorthodox means. And that is government of Nicaragua. We're basically trying to overthrow the government. This is how not to implement a human rights policy. The government of Nicaragua has human rights problems and they are not guilty of disappearances and assassinations and torture, but there are a number of human rights problems, primarily with respect to civil liberties. The press is frequently censored. There's been limitations on the political process. There have been some violations of due process particularly with respect to some of the Miskito Indian prisoners that have been held. The government has a particularly bad record with respect to its relations with its indigenous community. And I, as I'm sure you're aware, there's a great deal of conflict between the government of Nicaragua and the Miskito community, particularly in due to the fact that many of the Miskito young men, men and boys have left the country and, and now fighting in the opposition efforts to, to overthrow the government. Having said that, I also want to say that the that the government of Nicaragua has made a very good faith effort to try to address some of these problems. And particularly on the Miskito Indian question has set some of these wrongs to right. The Americas Watch has been to Nicaragua four times, has done four reports and dealt very seriously with the Nicaraguan government on all of these things. I'm happy to say that some of our recommendations and some of the recommendations of the Inter-American human rights commission have been heeded, some 300 Miskito prisoners, for example who were being held on sort of dubious charges were released in an amnesty last December. The government of Nicaragua was involved in a friendly settlement to process with the OAS in an attempt to have some sort of family unification of Indian families who had been split, some in Honduras some in Nicaragua. Censorship was relaxed. Prison conditions were cleaned up and most important of all, in isolated instances were Nicaraguan soldiers in some of the areas where the fighting is taking place who committed atrocities have been severely disciplined. For example, there was a a soldier who raped a Miskito woman last spring and he was sentenced to 17 years. There were a group of soldiers who were guilty of killing some Indians non-combatants in an incident a year ago. And all of those involved have now been prosecuted investigated, prosecuted, and charged. And some of them got very stiff sentences indeed. Now having said that, I, I want to make it clear. Nicaragua's still has human rights problems and I'm not, I don't know what direction they're going to go in now. And, and I think that some of these problems remain and we obviously want to see them want to see them fixed but we're basically talking about violations of civil liberties and violations of political rights as opposed to violations of, of the body, gross violations of human rights, such as torture, disappearance and killing. The Reagan administration in numerous statements I've heard has literally couched the covert war against Nicaragua in terms of that government is a gross violation of human rights. And we are supporting freedom fighters who overthrow the government because we want to have a government with a better human rights record. Now that is the screwiest human rights policy I've ever heard, I mean, I've never saw us invade Chile, for example because they have a crummy human rights record. And we certainly aren't invading Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti. You know, that's clearly not why we're trying to overthrow the government of Nicaragua. And there's no question, but this government, our government is trying to overthrow the government of Nicaragua. And unfortunately, in addition to the human rights violations that have accrued from US sponsored attacks themselves, the Nicaraguan government says that over a thousand civilian non-combatants have been killed by these freedom fighters that the United States arms. And the America's Watch have visited a village last spring which had just been attacked by a group of counter encounter revolutionary soldiers that came in from Honduras. They blew up the clinic and they killed about six people, including two kids. And there had been numerous human rights violations that have taken place because of US support for a very disreputable band of freedom fighters. If you asked me, many of them were associated with Simosas national guard, but anyway, it's clear this has nothing to do with, or human rights policy. And as a result of the sense of literally being under siege the government has, I think it's fair to say in some instances, exploited that pressure and used it to justify increasing political repression. For example, and they censor the one opposition newspaper regularly. Now, you know in a war situation, which Nicaragua is in, is not illegitimate to censor war-sensitive materials. The United States did it regularly, you know in World War One, World War Two. But, and this is the, a justification for censoring apprentice, but they took out all kinds of domestic stuff too. They threw 10 Catholic priests out of the country because they said they were involved in counterrevolutionary activity. I doubt it myself, but the point is the attacks that are very serious are being used by hardliners in the Nicaraguan government to justify deteriorating civil liberties and political liberties situation in Nicaragua. I mean clearly the best possible thing the United States can do, I mean, it's the only thing we can do which is consistent with international laws, stop that war and, and begin, you know begin trying to normalize relations with Nicaragua. There's one other one other country I want to mention. This is a country in the region where we have no influence at all on human rights, and it's Cuba, Cuba has a very serious human rights problem. They don't have killings and disappearances like other countries in the region, but there's a particularly serious problem with long-term political detainees, Cuba holds some of the longest term political detainees in the world. Some of them have been held 20, 25 years. There's something the United States could have done. And we really, we, we blew the job. And this brings me to my last example of what we should have done and what, what we what we could do in the future. A couple of years ago, actually in 1979, the Carter administration commenced a dialogue with the government of Cuba and with the cooperation of a number of Cuban American groups in this country. And an agreement was reached where if Castro would release a number of long-term political detainees, we would give them visas to come to this country and they would just be, be moved out of Cuba. I want to stress that people who have been in prison for political crimes, if you will in Cuba lead a very rough life when they get out, they can't have jobs, they're vilified. Their life is absolutely miserable. So in the interest of, of just sort of humanity, it makes perfect sense that these people want to get out of Cuba. Fidel wants him to be gone. We'll take them. Unfortunately, the Reagan administration has reneged on that commitment. We took about 2000 prisoners , a huge number were released. We took about, started processing about 2000 of them. And then in the middle of this, this, this processing the Mariel boat exodus happened as you remember thousands of Cubans of all walks of life left. And they all streamed here among them were a number of criminals, and some say Cuban mental patients that the Cuban government wanted to get rid of and simply put on the boats with the thousands of other Cubans who who were leaving. Whatever the case, there are a number of what are called excludables, meaning people that we would, that are under US immigration law aren't allowed to come here, we didn't give them asylum because they have a criminal record or because they're insane or something like that. Anyway, as a result, the Reagan administration without making a big fanfare on it, stopped processing the visas of the legitimate, the formal political prisoners that we had promised I mean, our, not an ambassador, we don't have relations with Cuba. We have someone who serves as an ambassador. He promised those people in a meeting that they would have thesis. They had nothing to do with the Mariel boat exodus, but because of the fact that there were these excludables that were that left the country at the same time which Castro said he wouldn't take back. We stopped processing the visas for these other folks. I think that's absolutely wrong. I mean, we can do almost nothing to affect you as human rights policy let's face it. But we can do a small, we can do one small thing to help some of the victims. And we just didn't, because of the overwhelming desire of the Reagan state department, not to talk to Cuba, not to have any relations with Cuba, you know and to try to pleasure Fidel Castro to take back some of these excludables, we're going to just shut the door on these people, we made a promise to. To make matters worse, according to the, a guy named Wayne Smith who was the head of US intersection there, our ambassador as it were, he in his time there, he said the United States did not make one demarche. So he left in 82, I believe, did not make one demarche to or one representation or make any effort to even talk to try to get the situation resolved. The Cubans on the other hand made a number of of gestures, diplomatic gesture, saying, let's talk we want to resolve this problem. Forget it, you know, it's much more important to the United States that we just cut off the Cubans and have no relationship whatsoever. Even at the expense of people who you would sink are the ideological friends of the Reagan administration. I mean, these are the, these are the kinds of of victims, the only victims that the Reagan administration will go to the mat for. I mean, the state department will denounce Cuba and they'll denounce the Soviet union and denounce Romania and Hungary, and quite rightly to I might add, but forget about everything else, you know human rights violations anywhere else. But when it came down to a chance to to help the victims, we weren't there. And that's something we can do differently in the future. To conclude, I would just say that there are, the conduct of foreign policy is overwhelmingly the prerogative of the executive branch. Congress pays the bills. 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mandate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=7.11,9.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're going to see a lot more of the same and worse","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=9.8,11.701"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I think means it's 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Congress","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=15.772,18.521"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to try to have another voice on foreign affairs to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=18.521,22.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to tell them what the American people's mandate really 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whether,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=44.701,46.284"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what mandate you think congress said,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=46.284,48.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you mentioned writing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=48.49,50.333"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You said your letters what congress can do,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=50.333,52.125"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and what it cannot 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on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=55.724,57.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But would you rather know about why it's going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=57.68,61.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=61.0,61.833"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I, in terms of what can Congress do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=63.29,65.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I, you've probably 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very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=99.129,102.033"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wary of challenging the president on, on foreign affairs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=102.033,106.818"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857/transcript/22975/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And basically 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We're going to see a lot more of the same and worse which I think means it's incumbent upon the United States Congress, and those of us that care who's in Congress to try to have another voice on foreign affairs to to tell them what the American people's mandate really is on foreign affairs. I think I'll stop there and take some questions. Thank you. Does somebody want to moderate or can I just call from here? Rainier.\r\n\r\n- Will you come in on whether, what mandate you think congress said, you mentioned writing. You said your letters what congress can do, and what it cannot do. And I'll tell you this points, it's not about what's going on. But would you rather know about why it's going on.\r\n\r\n- Okay. Well, I, in terms of what can Congress do? I, you've probably not. What I know about Congress is as much as you do from from reading the news, they haven't reformed yet. There hasn't been a very big change in the overall configuration in Congress. We Democrats lost fifteen seats in the house picked up two in the net two in the Senate. I don't think that in terms of actual votes there is gonna be too much difference. My fear, Rainier, is that given that what's going to be perceived as let's face it, an overwhelming victory for president Reagan, the Congress and, and people of principle in both parties in the Congress are going to be very wary of challenging the president on, on foreign affairs. And basically it's because foreign affairs issues didn't cut very big in this election, frankly they don't very often do in, in my view unless the United States has our own troops abroad. Generally I, I think and someone else may have a different view here and may want to comment. My, my view is that the foreign affairs issues don't make a great deal of difference in the election. And I guess, aside from trying to develop coalitions to, to very closely monitor what we're sending down there, which is the least economists can do, I mean that's what they have to do. And that's what constitutionally they're supposed to do. Monitor what we're spending. I would say that, that increasingly people have to visit the region, come to their own conclusions and, and try to oppose some of these things. That's a limp answer, but that's about the best I can do, in terms of, of Guatemala. Your question was, I said, what had happened but what is happening now is that the,\r\n\r\n- Right, I mean all of this going on, but I'm curious to elaborate why.\r\n\r\n- The Guatemalan economy just very briefly is probably the most skewed in the, in the entire region in terms of a very tiny elite controlling, vast, vast proportions of the, the country's wealth, almost all almost all of the, the land and increasingly the land, all of the best farming land, CRADA coffee land have been bought up by corporations and by big Hacienda owners and, and the, the problem of land tenure, I think is key, critical to understanding what's happened to Guatemalans. And this has gotten dramatically worse in the last 20 years. For example, it's always been bad in Guatemala, but that economic elite among the most regressive ultra right, it's fair to say fascist elements, in the entire region has had very close ties with the Guatemalan military for decades, not unlike a situation in Salvador, but I think worse, in the case of Guatemala. Now in the late 1960s, early 1970s, they're developed in Guatemala, a burgeoning, cooperative movement, if you will. A popular sort of unarmed popular uprising, it has a lot to do with the liberation theology direction of the Catholic church, the Catholic lay ministers and priests and nuns in Guatemala became involved in some of the organizing efforts that were going on, particularly in these Indian areas, lots and lots of peasants joined into cooperatives and unions, peasant unions. The, the Guatemalan labor sector had, was increasingly becoming unionized and it was starting to make a difference in the, in the late 1970s. For example, I think in 1980, there was a historic strike in Guatemala where the agricultural laborers that migrate to work on the coast struck and they got a raise in wages from $2 a day to $3 a day. It just tells you something about the situation in Guatemala, but it was an enormous blow to the coffee growers. And as a result of these, this sort of ferment that was going on, plus a Guerrilla movement which is the oldest in the region the Guamo and Guerrillas had been around since the early sixties, though they've never come close to ever assuming enough control to top the government or anything else. They, they got stronger in the early 1980s in direct relationship to the government's increased repression. People who were having army visits to communities and civilians that were getting killed and families that were getting killed, particularly in the Indian community, started to join up. And the Guerrilla ranks swelled in the early 1980s, Thus justifying naturally a huge counter-insurgency effort. And it really began under president Lucas Garcia in 1979. And it continued through, there were several military coups since then, and it's been continued and expanded throughout the Rios Montt and Mejía Victores governments. And that is the source of the violence the counterinsurgency efforts, the bombing, the indiscriminate killings. And I, there's no question that it's related to a struggle for social change. I might also, I might also add in addition to the huge numbers of peasants and Indian poor that have been overwhelmingly the victims. It is no accident that also the trade union movement in the urban areas has been decimated. Literally hundreds of trade unionists have lost their lives. School teachers, university professors. It's just incredible. Just this last May, the entire student government, what do you call it? Student council, I guess you'd say, an eleven member organization of students, you know completely non-violent, not associated with the Guerrilla movement, not even political, it's like student government here, you know? The entire group disappeared. They were abducted by the security forces and there just gone eleven kids gone in one day. And you just, you read statistics like this. I mean, sixty people a month disappear. And in the urban areas, they are overwhelmingly people who were associated with efforts to change Guatemala. You know, politicians, the Christian Democrats which are by no means a left wing party. You know, I mean, in this context you could say they're moderate to conservative Democrats if you will, they're by no means anything, but the center of the spectrum. The Christian Democrats in Guatemala have just been destroyed. They've had thousands of their people, you know, blown away and it's because any threat to the status quo or any even perceived threat, it's just snuffed out. That's it.\r\n\r\n- You advocate United States using their import and export policies towards, say Guatemala, to force their internal power structure to make some changes. You think that would be sufficient to you. Bring on the land decline that's needed?\r\n\r\n- Good question. And another question would be, should we also use our export and import policies to force them to do that? I'm way out on a limb on this because if there's no question that it's intervention, and in general, I think except in extraordinary instances, intervention is inappropriate, in terms of, you know, toppling of government or trying to overthrow a government because we want them to do one specific thing. I think the only time intervention is essential is when you have crimes against humanity on the level that I've been describing Guatemala. I'm just sort of fantasizing here, but I think that if there were a trade conditions on, on our trade, and if we insisted on a civilian government and the military being brought under control, it might create an environment for Guatemalan, politicians in Guatemala, labor unionists, and Guatemalan institutions to develop that might then take that on themselves. I think that would be about the best, the best we could expect under those circumstances. But speaking of the trade thing with respect to land reform, however, I just want to mention, you know, about generalized system of preferences, you know, where we give the GATT agreement where the United States gives certain countries, so-called third world countries, but most of the countries that get these benefits are not third world countries but Israel and Taiwan and Korea, the more industrialized third world countries, if you will. But the GAD agreements provide that certain countries get bricks. They get reductions in the, the tariffs that they pay to have their stuff imported to the United States, exported to the United States. Recently, when the trade act was reworked in Congress, Don Pease of Ohio, really great Congressman there, attached language saying that we couldn't give these tariffs breaks to any government that was employing unfair labor, labor practices, basically violations of labor rights, union busting and deplorable working conditions, and that kind of thing. The idea being that, you know, these products shouldn't get a tax break and come in under favorable, you know, tariff regulations when they're being employed under deplorable conditions. Now, I don't know whether that, whether that'll be implemented or not, it may be like a lot of human rights law, and it'll just be on the books. But that is one person's effort to try to link trade with human rights. And in that respect, it's unprecedented. He also tried to include an effort to give priority to countries that do not take land out of production for food stuffs and put it into production for export commodities. In other words, we shouldn't be rewarding the government of Guatemala and letting its imports come into the United States duty free when it takes land out of production of food that Guatemalans need and puts it instead into the cultivation of fruit and flowers and beef that all gets exported out of the country to our tables here. So that's, that's a couple of ideas on the on the trade matter, but it's, that's sort of outside my expertise. So I'll stop there.\r\n\r\n- I'm not still happy with restricting Guatemalas. As described here there's a land grab occurring in the Northern Transversal Strip. And that's part of the relocation, not necessarily Guerrillas and or social change, but I wanted to ask you about something that we've been working on here in Ames over the past year both the religious community and in campus group, and that is the DeConcini Moakley bill. Right now the United States imports thousand of Salvadors as many as it can get. As many as it can find an airline to transport these days, back to El Salvador. The state department has said, and the Iowa legislators that we have approached who haven't been in favor of the building, agreed with the state department is that there is no proof that Salvadorans that are deported had anything bad happened to them. But the study that they did was not an active study but a passive study, and we can see the Moakley bill calls for, an active study. Could you describe what a good study would be and what do you think we could do to affect legislation that would keep people from being sent back to probably a bad thing.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, just real briefly on the Guatemala. I'm glad you raised the point because I don't disagree at all. There certainly is a land grab going on in the areas where they suspect oil may be found as you're aware. And some of the, some of the Guatemalan highest ranking Guatemalan military people are the land owners. I mean, they are the direct beneficiaries of these relocations. So I'm glad you mentioned that. The DeConcini Moakley bill is dead for this Congress. It didn't go, it didn't go anywhere. And I know the sponsors of the bill are going to try again. In the common Congress. I have sort of mixed feelings. I'm strongly in favor of the bill but we should not be deporting Salvadorans back to Salvador. Whether or not a study could prove that they'll be killed upon their return. And here's why I think so. There is a special, as I'm sure, you know, there's a special category that is somehow, or a special, how can I say this, regulation that is used to allow a temporary asylum, a temporary sanctuary, if you will, for people who have fled a country that has turmoil. Any kind of turmoil. It's been used for years and years. And what they call this is extended voluntary departure. What it means is the immigration naturalization service simply stops deporting people for a period of time. A year, a half year. In the case of Ethiopians, it's been, I don't know, five or six years, seven years. But they simply, they don't give these people permanent, yeah, asylum in the official sense of the word under the Refugee Act, but they just don't process their deportation papers and they don't put them on boats and planes and ship them out of here. This temporary stay of deportation, if you will, or EVD, extended voluntary departure, status has been used for a number of different national groups. We gave it to the Lebanese. We gave it to the Poles after solidarity was crushed and the situation got very bad in Poland. We've given it to a number of different national groups. In the past it's even been used to stop the deportation of nationals from countries that are just involved in say, well civil war is the, is the most likely time but even a natural disaster has been used as an excuse not to send these people back. The justification is this; the situation in the country is so bad for whatever reason maybe they've had a huge natural disaster but more likely there's some kind of upheaval that anybody is, could come to harm. And so, therefore, we're not going to deport anybody until the situation calms down a bit. Now, this has been used for, you know, seven, eight, nine other other national groups. The only country it isn't used for is Salvador. Now I'll tell you you don't have to prove you're going to be killed in order to deserve a stay of deportation in a country that has, that has, how many internally displaced? 600,000 internally displaced. I mean, this is a little country folks, 5 million people. You know, they've got a million people, refugees, half a million displaced within the country, a war going on, a complete breakdown in social services, not to mention 40,000 people killed in the last, in the last four years. That's reason enough, my problems with the Moakley DeConcini bill is just that I'm afraid if we set ourselves up and we call for a study saying, you know, there have to be X many people killed before we stop deporting Salvadorans that they're still not going to get fairly treated. Nonetheless, I do support the, I do support any efforts that are going to be made to try to stop deportation but we can talk in a little more detail afterwards if you'd like about sort of where that bill is going. Cause I have some thoughts.\r\n\r\n- I'd be interested in your opinion on why do you think the IRD, the Salvadoran army wanted these four American women, church women killed.\r\n\r\n- They were two of them. And I, I apologize for not remembering them. I know all four names but I don't remember which, Eda Ford was one of them. And one of the other women were involved in working with displaced people in Salvador. And they were, they were very well known as being associated with Archbishop Romero. And the church really is looked upon as, as the first in El Salvador. And I remember when I was there a year ago, we met with some peasants who were having a Clandestine worship service. And they asked us to send Bibles, but not paperbacks because they had to bury them when the soldiers came around because having a Bible was seen as being subversive and they wanted cloth cover books so that they wouldn't get destroyed when they buried them. But that's too simple an answer, there is some thought that the that the chain of command goes all the way up to Venus Casanova, the current defense secretary, who was then Head of the National Guard. But I don't want to get into that. Some of, some people who have, have since defected from Salvadoran armed forces have traced the actual order to a cousin of Venus Casanova who actually gave the order. But I think that when you look at who other victims are in El Salvador, the army, isn't engaged, has been engaged in such an orgy of killing. And they have such the world view about who deserves to live and who deserves to die. And what a subversive is, is so, it's so incredible. It, it doesn't, it doesn't boggle my mind that, that an army that's responsible for the killing of you know, tens of thousands of Salvadorans. You wouldn't see a couple of pesky nuns who were, you know, they were North Americans but they were involved in this, you know, this subversive stuff like helping out displace people. It just seems to me that it's part and parcel. They got stupid that time. And they killed the wrong nationality. But I think they died because of what they were doing. And they were helping out displaced people. And they were using their van, their little white Toyota to transport medical supplies and blankets, to the, from the capital city of San Salvador, to some of these displaced peoples' camps. Now, the importance of the displaced people is that the army thinks that those, that people who have fled the army, are a suspect, and they have made many attacks on the camps themselves. And on the people who work with them. I keep getting off into my personal stories. But when I was in Salvador last August I was visiting the prison, the men's prison. And at the time I was there, I saw a young guy brought in and I knew who he was because I heard about his case right before I left Washington we'd gotten a call from the archdiocese. And I told my delegation, I had a couple of Congress people with me, about this kid and his wife who had been, who had disappeared at the time. They'd just been picked up. They were providing services to the displaced people. His wife was a doctor. He was, you know, driving a truck or something to help bring supplies to the displaced. People can, both those two were picked up along with two other employees of the archdiocese who were also working with the DP camp and all four were tortured and jailed. I, I saw the kid on the day he was being brought right into the jail. He was scared to death. I might add, he looks like he was about 18 years old too, but they were released just a couple of months ago, but people who work with displaced people are really at risk in El Salvador and I think that's part of the explanation and the other two nuns who had come from Nicaragua simply were in the van at the same time is my guess, but I don't want to speculate any further than that.\r\n\r\n- But is this an indication that the high military knew that it didn't matter that they killed these Americans because Reagan, the administration, was the one that gave them the money they needed no matter what they or anybody else was gonna, you know George Bush goes down, and you did say-\r\n\r\n- That happened three years after they died, of course, I mean.\r\n\r\n- But basically, it doesn't matter how terrible they are.\r\n\r\n- I don't know what, I don't know what possible motives pass through their minds, but I think you have said it, it's been very clear that no crime is too great in El Salvador. I mean, we've had in Congress, a certification process, the Congress hoping to side step the issue of aid to El Salvador, hoping that, you know, wipe off some of the stain, attempted to put the regular administration through this, what turned out to be an enormous farce of having them insisting that certain human rights conditions had to be met before they got the aid. And then Congress said to the executive branch you come up and tell us that these things have been done, and then you get your aid. So the Reagan administration four times every six months for two years did just that in, you know, in a six month period when thousands of people had lost their lives, you know, newspaper reports were really this humanized situation was much worse than it is now. You were getting stories in the, in the international news and on nightly news of the most grotesque massacres. And they would trot up to the Hill and they'd say everything is fine because they because if they didn't, they wouldn't get the aid. And I think it is quite clear that I asked a state department employee this once, I said \"How much is too much?\" Is there any level that you guys can't live with? You know, is there any place you draw the line? What is it, it's not 40,000 dead? You know, it's not 500 political prisoners all of whom have been tortured and I didn't get, I didn't get a civil answer to a very uncivil question I might add, but no I think that the fact that the Reagan administration and unfortunately the Congress has made it clear that if the alternative and I, and I think this is phrasing, phrasing the thing in a very unproductive way. The alternative is perceived as a Guerrilla victory, negotiations have never been really seriously supported or encouraged by this, by our government or by our Congress. And if the alternative is perceived of either its our bastards or their bastards, we'll take ours and it doesn't matter what they do. And I think that that attitude has certainly encouraged these kinds of violations. And I think given that attitude, they were quite surprised at the great hullabaloo that was raised when we happened to give, they happened to kill four of ours. We care so little for Salvadoran lives who would have thought we had gotten so bad a shape about for Americans. Let me take this question first Rainier.\r\n\r\n- You said that El Salvador, its down to like five or six killings a month now or something.\r\n\r\n- That's death squad killings. That's just these guys that, you know that roam around and these Cherokee vans with smoked windows and jump out and they don't wear uniforms. And they go to some house, they got an address and they pull someone from their house and they kill them and they leave them on the street. Or those people disappear. Army killings are not, are not at all done. Now I don't have an exact figure on how many are killed. We know for example, that 68 died in the month of July but the numbers overall are far fewer than they were two or three years ago. And you know, there may be a number of reasons for that.\r\n\r\n- Well I was gonna say too that because the pressure from the United States but probably they let the survivors right from the bus.\r\n\r\n- That could be part of it too. So I think since things are, are wrapping up here I'll take one more question and then we'll call it quits. Rainier, did you have one?\r\n\r\n- Well, the members of Congress, or State Department of Employees wanna start talking to deal with, do they acknowledge the truth of these killings? And will they let you say that this is in fact truth?\r\n\r\n- Some do. Their classified cables sometimes show some of this. But the people who represent them publicly, not only do they not admit that these things are true but they've gone on a real campaign to discredit the people that are bringing the bad news. And I find that absolutely the worst. Those people who monitor human rights in those countries are absolutely their lives are on the line every damn day. And when the United States government says, \"Oh, well they fudged the figures and they are kind of, \"you know, they might be left leaning.\" or whatever else puts them in a lot of danger It's also, it doesn't happen to be true, but you know it doesn't matter so much what they think personally. It doesn't matter at all what they think personally, you know, the members of the foreign service and the people at the embassy. I don't care what they think personally. They're probably all nice guys, but you know the importance is what the policy is. Well, I think, what did you have one more question for me?\r\n\r\n- Are the death squads a recent formality?\r\n\r\n- Well they're not recent, they've been operating in Salvador from I think about the mid seventies. What, what happened in 1978 and nine, however was that the Salvadoran armed forces themselves took over the death squads and computerized lists of subversives as it were, and started organizing and, and sort of channeling death squad activity. And that has, that has happened since late, late, late 1970s. Okay. I think that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/36685/file/105857#t=0.0,1546.992"}]}]}]}