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now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=3018.261,3019.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/873","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And people like you, are the same ones","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=3019.33,3022.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/874","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we don't want you to 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Rhodesia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=4628.3,4629.753"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can see all the Africans are against it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=4633.18,4635.613"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm just curious to 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anybody","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5466.52,5468.9"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who hasn't had a chance yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5468.9,5470.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You haven't had a shot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5470.97,5472.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, let me say that if I've done nothing else","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5583.92,5586.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it sounds like I've got a good arguments going","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5586.12,5588.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I hope you'll all talk among yourselves","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5588.89,5590.9"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you may hate what I said to say,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5590.9,5592.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but at least perhaps you'll all take a look","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5592.98,5595.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and find specific ways to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5595.51,5599.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"either refute what I've said, but look into it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5599.11,5603.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think there's nothing better","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5603.31,5605.633"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than having good discussions going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5605.633,5607.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And even if you don't like a single word I said,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5607.61,5610.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at least I think I've got people arguing, talking,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5610.64,5614.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thinking, and I hope you'll keep doing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5614.37,5616.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as I say, at least we've accomplished that much","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5616.32,5620.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if nothing else, six weeks in London","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5620.78,5624.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and they're still arguing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5624.27,5625.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I hope you yourselves will keep after it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5625.36,5630.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and think about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5630.23,5631.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you wanna read my book, you don't have to obviously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5631.68,5634.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll leave one copy here and you can pass it around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5634.57,5638.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if anybody wants to talk to me","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5638.4,5640.735"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715/annotation/1412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"let's make it informal from here on in and not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=5640.735,5643.703"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29715","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English 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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415/transcript/29716/annotation/1414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- I'm sorry that we have such a small audience here for a topic, which I think shouldn't be of interest to students on this campus. Robin Moore will be introduced by professor Bauer in just a minute. He'll speak, of course, on Rhodesia. His point of view may be different from many of the audience's point of view. We're hoping to have some discussion of this important issue on this campus during this year, different points of view. And I urge you to approach the committee on lectures with proposals or a proposal since we're limited in funds, our proposal for our different lecture with a different point of view. But what disturbs me is that so few in our campus are interested in a number of these areas that are extremely important to the world and to America, especially. But I will remind you that we had the other night, a speaker on economics on the subject of entrepreneurship and research. We had a very tiny audience and the next day he was announced as a Nobel prize winner, which upsets me a little bit in terms of the university audience. I shouldn't be lecturing to you people who have come to church on Sunday. And I just want to remind you to try to get people interested in subjects, I think of exceeding importance to university audiences so much for my sermon tonight but I just wanted to express that view. Professor Bauer.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Dr. Lourie. Tonight, we are privileged to have as a speaker, Mr. Robin Moore, who is a distinguished author, has published a number of books which have been very popular included among them the French Connection which achieved a great deal of notoriety through film. He is also the author of a book entitled \"Green Braise\" and various other books. He for a long time was involved in television productions of various sorts. And he has lived in many different parts of the world, including the area about which he is going to speak this evening. He has in fact, a residence in Salisbury in Rhodesia or Zimbabwe, and that residence has served as sort of an unofficial American embassy in the absence of any official American representation to the current regime in Rhodesia. I think without further ado on behalf of the committee on lectures, I would like to welcome Mr. Robin Moore.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, John. Well, I must say I'm appreciative to everybody that is here for relinquishing the world series, a homecoming week and all the other great activities going on on the campus that I've seen since I've been here today. I wonder if I would've come to hear me, if I was in your place, seeing what great things are out to do. Since we have a smaller audience, I think that perhaps this lecture can take the form of very shortly after I've talked to a while of a discussion group, because I have a feeling that there are many people in the audience who may know things I don't know about this subject or may have words that they would like to say. They may want to question me on some of my statements. And I've always felt that the most valuable type of inducement a lecture can offer to his audience is their opportunity for the audience to have their say too. So with that in mind, make any notes or mentally or on a piece of paper that you would like to question me about later, and you can have at me after I've had a few words to say and upfront, so to speak. I've always found that when I come in and give a lecture or when I talk to people about a subject whether it be Rhodesia or what else, they say how did you ever come to be a writer? And even as a writer how did you come to write this particular book? How did you get involved in this subject? I might just briefly recap some of the books I've written which led to Rhodesia, how they came about because it'll give you perhaps a little better idea of where I'm coming from and it might even make you understand me a little better and understand my point of view. But I always wanted to be a writer. When I was at Harvard, the professor of writing there, the top man in the university told me after I'd been accepted into his course that I'd never be a writer. And would I give my seat to someone else who was more deserving since there was only room for 20 people. And I quickly gave up my place in this distinguished class of creative writing and went on to write ever since, I don't believe anybody in the class ever did including the professor ever went on to write anything. But I did take pains to send him a copy of each book that I wrote that did well autographed. And unfortunately it had nothing to do with me or my book that poor fellow committed suicide. He jumped out of a hotel in Boston and killed himself. It really wasn't because I kept sending him my best sellers. But anyway, one does have to make one's own way in the area of writing. It was very hard to start out as a writer. I got out of Harvard and started first in the television business, three or four years, I wrote ad lib lines for the amateur hour and things of that sort. Finally, I went to back home to Boston and took a job with a Sheraton hotel chain. It was the advertising and public relations director. I progressed remarkably fast to become vice president in three years. Those that didn't appreciate my talent said it was because my father was the chairman of the board that I made such rapid strides which I was told it was around charitable viewpoint of my business abilities. However, while working for Sheraton I was sent down to Jamaica and the West Indies. And that was my first real acquaintanceship with countries outside of the United States. What we call third world countries now. While I was down there negotiating for Sheraton Hotel, I was always interested in flying. I started an air charter service. The air charter service, it turned out became a gun running operation for Fidel Castro. I didn't realize it. And it particularly distressed me that my pilots were not cutting me in on the take. We were supposed to be merely flying tourists up to do a little gambling and Havana. And the next thing I realized that this plane would come back every so often with a few bullet holes in the side of it the local head of police in Montego Bay would look at it and get a little upset. I finally cut that out, sold the airplanes but I wrote a book about gun running in Cuba and about Castro's guerrilla warfare campaign which I got fairly much involved with called \"The Devil to Pay\". \"The Devil to Pay\" was the first book. And probably one of the more definitive books on Fidel's use of guerrilla warfare and psychological warfare to take over Cuba in a relatively bloodless manner. All the blood was shed after he took over and lined them up against the wall and shot them. But as a result of that book, which was published in 1961 and I might add by this time the chairman of the board of Sheraton called me in and said he thought I'd do better elsewhere. I was living in Jamaica, running a bar and wondering what the next book would be when I heard about these men in Green Berets that were fighting the war over there in Southeast Asia. And at just that time vice president Johnson arrived in Jamaica. This was 1962 August. For the commemoration of that country's independence. I met the vice president. I gave him a copy of my book, \"The Devil to Pay\". I gave a copy of \"The Devil to Pay\" to everybody who had connected with him and said I wanted to write a book about the Green Berets. Well, apparently \"The Devil to Pay\" paid off for me because I was given permission. If I would go through the Guerrilla Warfare School if I would go through Jump school, I was 37 at that time. And then that was getting through it, there must be at least one paratrooper in this room who probably went over Puke Hill a few times at Benning. But anyway, I did it and then went to Vietnam and spent six months there with the Green Berets. I was a civilian, I was able to keep my civilian status. And the reason I was able to get such good information was that I had gone through the training with everybody. All my friends are now running the war and I had a grandstand seat. I almost got killed a few times but that was part of the game. And this was how the Green Berets came about. While I was over there I did a stint with a CIA group who was working in Laos. And why were they with them? We were trying to get these little mountain yard types to fight the communists coming down the whole human trail. And the only way they'd fight is if we'd sell their dope for them, their specialty was growing opium. This had been 2000, 3000 years of a culture but these fellows were used to taking a three month walk to VN Chen, where there were selling them and coming back. We used airplanes and sold all their dope for them in a matter of three days and kept them out there fighting. But when that was over and I came back to the United States I began to wonder my God, I was a dope peddler. Now, what did this mean? And I got in touch with some friends in the New York police department and asked them what's the story on heroin and opium. And I met two cops, Papa Egan, and Sonny Grasso. And after spending a couple of years with them I got involved in what was known as the French connection case. And that was how I happened to write \"The French Connection\". As I say, one book leads to the other, while writing \"The French Connection\". I saw a great deal of the highest level area of the narcotics business throughout the world, coming from Turkey, coming from the golden triangle and Laos, Burma and Thailand. And I saw that this money was used in politics, the politicians were supporting the dope peddlers in return for the money to support their campaigns. The more I got to see the penetration of crime into the American lifestyle, the more interested I became in it. And from that came \"The Fifth Estate\" because organized crime has indeed become the fifth estate in American life today. Again, crime led me to the middle East where I was extremely interested in oil, gold smuggling, and that sort of thing. I wrote a book called \"Dubai\" which is being made into a movie right now. This was as a result of six or eight months on the Persian Gulf watching the way the Sheikhs were getting rich. The American carpetbaggers were getting rich. Everybody getting involved with them was getting rich. And it was at this point that I got some inkling of what went on in Africa. There was a great deal of commerce between African nations and the middle East, and particularly in South Africa and Rhodesia where they desperately needed oil. Rhodesia by this point had sanctions. The world was against Rhodesia, was not selling oil to them. And Rhodesia was using it's not inconsiderable gold bullion supply to buy its oil from certain Sheikhs that I got to know. This got me interested in Rhodesia. I came back to the United States, finished \"Dubai\" was sitting around wondering what the next book would be when I got a phone call from a fellow I hadn't seen since we were up in Laos, a former CIA man, one of the greatest Green Berets I had ever known named Colonel Gillespie. And Gillespie said I'm out of the agency now, I'm out of all these things. He said, we have got to understand Africa better. We must particularly understand Southern Africa better. It is the most strategic and important part of the world to us now, that we've managed to lose Southeast Asia. And let us go, let you go over there, write a book and I'll come over there and be your research assistant. I'll help you carry your bags, whatever you want. He said he had, at that time, a public relations agency in Washington, and what I didn't know was that the public relations agency was still a CIA cover. He was a full Colonel in the CIA at the time and they were too smart for him in Rhodesia. They wouldn't let him or anybody else in but when he came in as my research assistant because they wanted me to write a book which would do for Rhodesia, which would do for Southern Africa in the Western world, what the Green Berets had done, what French connection had done, explain to people what it was all about. And so Gillespie and I pitched up there in 1976 in August. I soon realized the enormous importance of Southern Africa to the United States, to every American citizen. And I decided by George's is an important place for me to stay. I bought a home, a big house which I used the ill gotten gains from one of my book, \"The Happy Hooker\" to finance, my favorite horror finally came through for me and made me an ambassador. Albeit I was not recognized by the US department of state. Certainly Andrew Young particularly despised me and vice versa. And I never lost an opportunity to mild off from my embassy in Salisbury. But facetious though it may sound I was really trying to do something important. People said to me and still asked me what did I expect to find when I went to Rhodesia? Well, I expected to find a racial war going on, blacks against white, Ian Smith's white government fighting the black nationalists. And I expected to find a number of mercenaries. I knew at least there were 300 Americans over there. I knew there were Brits. I knew that there were probably two to 3000 white mercenaries totally in Rhodesia. This is what I expected. And I said, well, I'll make a great book. It'll be \"Beau Geste\", but this isn't what I found. I found that I had the same misconceptions that so many Americans have today. We perceive Rhodesia in just the terms, which I outlined in a way, I thought it would be. Once I'd set up my embassy, I found out for instance that all the foreign troops there were being paid at the same rate that the Rhodesian troops were being paid. In other words, they weren't mercenaries from a monetary point of view. They believed in what they were doing. They believed they were fighting a war, not a white against black war, but basically a war that would end up being a war between the moderate black African and the communist black African. And they sincerely believed that they were fighting an extension of the war in Vietnam or the war in Korea. This surprised me that they were not mercenaries in the point of view that they were making money. So I turned my embassy into a meeting place for them. I had a telex system between Washington, New York and Salisbury. They could come to my house and find out the scores of all the football, baseball games, basketball games. I had them all sent over by telex. I got in touch with their families to let them know they were all right. When some of them were killed I conducted Memorial services for them and really became a great part of that operation there. I was one of the very few one of three Americans or rather foreigners who were allowed to go at will around the country to go to the sharp end as the combat areas called, where I could indeed bear arms with the Rhodesian army. They wouldn't have me out there without a weapon because they couldn't afford a bodyguard. This was the same thing had happened in Vietnam. So I saw a great deal of the war. And one of the first things that interested me was that of the troops fighting for the government. At that particular time, it was Ian Smith's government. We're about four fifths black and one fifth white. And much of the time I was out in the jungles I would be maybe the only white man with a five six or eight RAR, that's Rhodesian African Rifle types or that sort of situation. It was a very interesting thing to watch them engage the communist enemy of Robert Mugabe and Joshua Nkomo. And rather naively, I asked them in one of my first engagements where they did a remarkable job of shooting up a group of the communists. Doesn't this bother you to shoot your brother blacks. And then they said, well, it never seemed to bother the French and Germans shooting each other. It never seemed to bother any of the Europeans killing each other, the Russians and the Germans. And we feel the same way. It's not a war, it's not a racial war. And I began to get the feeling that this is true. It wasn't a racial war. I then went out into the end of the fields, out into the farms of Rhodesia. And I think this is what Rhodesia really is all about. Out in the wilderness where these families or their fathers or their grandfathers or going back five generations had carved farm land out of absolute Virgin wilderness where there had been nothing but jungle, there were farms. And some of the farms I went to had only been cleared out in the last 10 or 15 years, but in every case the great agricultural properties of Rhodesia which make it the bread basket of Africa, certainly, for the Sub-Sahara Africa, it's probably the only country in all of Africa, except perhaps South Africa, that is not only self-sufficient, but can export food even though they are under sanctions and legally cannot export food. But this is how Rhodesia was created. People going in there creating farms, creating industry where there was none before. And I saw the hard scientific work that went into this sort of thing. Now, again, here I am in Ames, Iowa talking about Rhodesia and I'm sure you wonder what in goodness sake does Rhodesia mean to me in Iowa or for that matter, any other part of the United States? Now Rhodesia and Southern Africa are indeed one of the most strategic parts of the world still after the free world. If we lose that, we are in deep trouble. For instance, all the oil that comes into the East coast of the United States into the United States, for that matter, all of the United States has to come around the Cape of Good Hope. There are about 11 to 15 miles of navigable waters South of the Cape of Good Hope. And through this, every oil tanker has to come. Now I've sat there in Southern Africa in South Africa and watched the monitoring of these ships. They can monitor every submarine that comes through, every boat that comes through. They know what's coming through. If a hostile power should be situated down there in the very Southern most area of Africa they could stop any boat at will from coming through anytime they wanted to. Now, that's one of the things it means to us, but even more important. Now, the strategic metals, Southern Africa and specifically Rhodesia is the only producer of the highest grade strategic Chrome in the world today. Now the difference between the strategic Chrome that's produced in Rhodesia and the lower grade Chrome that's produced in Russia is that the industry that make steel, the metals industry the armament industry, if they have to process their steel without the highest grade Chrome it suffers in a military situation. If you take two tanks, one made with Russian Chrome and one made with Rhodesian Chrome it would be very much like the old Wars of the bronze age. When the bronze sword cut through the copper sword, the same is true with this type of Chrome, we have to have it. Rhodesia and South Africa are the chief suppliers for tungsten which is what we need for the leading edge of supersonic airplanes. There are many invaluable strategic materials that come from there that don't come from anywhere else or if they do come from anywhere else, they are a lower grade of a strategic Chrome or a strategic tungsten. Oh, these are some of the reasons why it's important to us. We could lose a war, a technological war without the strategic metals from Southern Africa. And that is one of the reasons why the United States government at the same time, it tries to a certain extent pander to some of the governments of Africa and keep sanctions on Rhodesia. At the same time, we know we need it. As I say, this is so important to us. This is what the London conferences are all about now. I would expect maybe you have been reading a little about it but let me just give you a little look at what's going on in London right now there are three basic parties to the London conference which will decide eventually what will happen to all South Africa and Rhodesia. Rhodesia is the key to South Africa. At the moment, there is the so-called patriotic front the communist supplied, the communist oriented guerillas. Their leaders are Robert Mugabe and Joshua Nkomo. Joshua Nkomo distinguished himself by shooting down to civilian aircraft and then having his men kill the survivors, shoot them or ban at them when they came out of the plane. Robert Mugabe, the co-leader of the patriotic front is a rather psychopathic individual. When he was in jail for planning the demise of Ian Smith probably with good reason, he got very sick. He had a case of syphilis which became cancer and had to have his genitals cut off. Unfortunately, a white doctor did this and this has caused him to have a rather bad view, put it mildly of the whole white-Rhodesian situation. Now these are the patriotic front but you got to also realize it between the two of them. They are bitter enemies and both Mugabe and Nkomo are saving the best part of their army to fight each other. Once they went to Anderson, if they come into Zimbabwe and take it over. Now on the other side is the government made up of Bishop Abel Muzorewa who was elected in April and his two main rivals but still they worked together. The Reverend Sithole and chief Jeremiah Chirau. Now these three, I know very well. They came to my house. I would say that I had something to do with getting them together. And instead of working at cross purposes to become together and make some kind of a coalition which could then become a government of Rhodesia. In April, Muzorewa, Chirau and Sithole ran against each other in elections. Muzorewa was elected, 63% of the electorate of Rhodesia voted. And this is a bigger voting turnout than the United States has managed to muster in the last two or three presidential elections. Now, this shows that there is a legitimacy to the black moderate government of Rhodesia which is now in power, and which is now in negotiations in London with Lord Carrington and the British. The whole idea is to get some sort of a constitution that they can live by the constitution that was voted in or ratified in the elections in April, give the whites what is considered to be more than a proportionate share of power. And this indeed may be true, but on the other hand it is the whites that have built the country up to where it is today. I'm not taking sides on this. I'm just trying to put for your inspection what the three negotiating parties are. Now, the patriotic front walked out of the talks twice. Basically their biggest disagreement on the constitution is that it provides the whites to be paid for their land. Should it be expropriated? I'll get out of that a little later but these are the three sides. Ian Smith is part of the Muzorewa government. When I was over in London recently they told her what might be a APA cripple story about the various people, all arriving in London. There was Muzorewa, Mugabe, Nkomo and Ian Smith. And each one of them wanted the same size hotel suite to be an equally important. So they finally found four suites exactly the same in the Claridge hotel, one above the other. And then the argument came well, who's gonna have the top suite 'cause that's the most important. Nkomo reported, he said he'd shoot down the next airplane that came over to London, if he didn't get it. And Mugabe said he'd kill everybody that came out of the hotel. Smith didn't say anything. And Muzorewa being a minister of the cloth said he'd take what he could get. So Mugabe got the top were suite. And under him was in Nkomo, under him was Muzorewa. And then finally on the bottom was Ian Smith. Now all of these people had been told about the fierce bugging activities, the electronic surveillance that went on. And so they, each one inspected their suite at great length to see if they were being bugged. Mugabe at the top had a bugging kit, specially given to him and he went through his suite. He couldn't find any evidence that he was being bugged. Well, then he got a mad that he wasn't important enough to be bugged, but continued to search. And finally to his delight just before he went to bed he found under the carpet in the living room, a brass screw. And he'd been told that this was the way you bug things an induction coil attached to a screw. So he took a screwdriver and took the screw out of the floor, put it in his pocket and went to bed feeling very happy. The next morning, over breakfast with Nkomo. And he said, \"well, we've got fine accommodations. \"This is a great hotel.\" And Nkomo said to him, \"I think it's a terrible hotel. \"Last night, the chandelier fell on me.\" The Mugabe faction, as you probably have read walked out on the talks over specifically the question of the paying the white farmers for any land that's expropriated. The British said that they would put up a fund, the British and Americans together to pay for any land expropriated. And at first they didn't want them to be paid even by the British and the Americans. Finally, apparently there has just yesterday come some sort of an agreement in which yes, if the British and Americans will put up the money to pay the white settlers and then we shouldn't use that word settler, I just used it. But I shouldn't, because these are people that didn't settle there, they created their lands, but in any way to pay the whites to divide up their estates into small holdings so that their land can be better distributed. I think this might be one of the worst things. One of the worst things that the United States could do, certainly Britain. I don't see why the taxpayers of the United States should pay what's gonna end up being at least a half a billion dollar bill probably more to pay to get the whites off of these large farms which is so efficient and turn the country into basically a socialist Marxist commune which will make it just the way Zambia, just the way so many of the other countries are there. Kenya, where when the land is all divided up they cannot farm efficiently. And you get a situation where you have starvation. Lend the money. That's probably a good reason for not having a debt to any other country. It's a sophisticated economy. It can indeed afford if such a thing is gonna come about as expropriating land and paying off the landholders which I deplore the whole idea of that. But the Rhodesian government, which presumably will be run by a coalition of the patriotic front and Muzorewa certainly can afford to pay them or what happens if the United States and Britain puts up the half billion dollars or whatever it takes. And I think that's a very low estimate. I would say that the land in Rhodesia is worth today, as much as all the farm land in Iowa. And I'm sure that all the farmland in Iowa is worth at least a half a billion dollars. So there's no reason why we should pay for this but if we do, and if Britain does what will happen is this coalition of patriotic front and the others will merely take the money that they should have used for paying off the whites and put it in their own bank accounts into the Switzerland or wherever it is. This has been the tradition. And I see no reason why we won't see this happen further. I just hope that the Congress of the United States totally and absolutely refuses and we should be doing it right now before those talks are over. Let them know that we aren't about to have Americans pay to communize Rhodesia. If they wanna do that, if Zimbabwe wants to do that they can afford to do it themselves. Something we should all watch carefully to see what will happen. The book that I'm trying to finish up now which I think might be interesting to you when it comes out. \"The crippled Eagles\" is based upon the foreigners the men who have come to Rhodesia to fight against the communists, the patriotic front, as they call themselves. And these consist of old Green Berets, Marines, men with a great deal of combat experience. Others who've had none at all and their first military experience is in Zimbabwe Rhodesia. But the interesting thing is that in April after the elections, after Rhodesia became a black majority rule country, the same men have stayed on proving that they did not come over there to fight a war for a white government against a black invader. They came there to fight for a way of life they believe in, they're still there, they're still fighting for Muzorewa, the remnants whatever, the white army, which makes up one fifth of the total fighting force is fighting for Muzorewa and Sithole and chief Chirau. And the whole Rhodesian situation could be totally normalized if the United States did one thing. And that would be to immediately recognize the government of Bishop Muzorewa as a legitimate government cease levying sanctions against them so that they can operate so that they can sell what they have to sell. And at that point the Rhodesian government would be perfectly capable of continuing a fight if that's necessary against the Soviet and red Chinese spec Mugabe and Nkomo faction. Now, one of the big questions people ask is how come after Muzorewa came in, after he was elected after we got a black majority rule country in Zimbabwe Rhodesia, why didn't the black troops the black guerillas on the other side, lay down their arms and come in and join their black government. They would no longer have to fight. They wouldn't be getting shot at they wouldn't go through the rigors of the war. Why don't they do it? Well, they don't do it for one very good reason. This is our fault almost totally, the United States. They don't do it because they are told by their leaders truthfully that the United States and great Britain does not recognize the black government. The United States and Britain is helping the patriotic front. And not only is the United States and Britain helping the patriotic front but so also is red China and the Soviet Union. In other words, the whole world is for their side and against the other side. So why shouldn't they keep fighting until they win? At which point they're told they will be given all the fine houses and in Borrowdale and the wealthier suburbs of the various cities of Rhodesia, obviously hollow promises, but they believe it. And that is one of the reasons that the guerrilla war has continued since the elections. And one of the main reasons that the United States in fact, the reason the United States has not recognized Rhodesia is Andrew Young's efforts in the United nations to prevent America from doing this. Andrew Young has had a long and deep commitment to both Robert Mugabe and Joshua Nkomo. For three years, he's promised them that he'd see to it that they would be the ones that would take over. He has felt a kinship sympathy to the terrorists because perhaps one reason may be they're doing, they're the men with the guns. They're the men that are violent. They are the men that are doing with perhaps what he would like to have done in the South, in the 1960s, and couldn't do, but whatever the reason is over and over again, he has told president Carter that if the president does recognize Zimbabwe Rhodesia now that he will lose the black vote in the United States. And this is the chief reason why, even though a majority of the Senate voted to recognize Rhodesia, the president has not done so. Now there is a law that States passed by the Senate and the house that by the 15th of November, president Carter must either recognize Zimbabwe Rhodesia as a country and lift sanctions or else show that to do this would be a security risk to the United States. Well, it'll certainly be a security risk to his election possibilities but I don't know how he's gonna prove that it will be a security risk to the United States. But this is the chief reason why we have not gone out and done what I believe what most everybody believes they should do. And that is to recognize the current government. I was at those elections, as I said, some of my colleagues there were Bayard Rustin, ambassador, John Lodge and many others all went over there to observe it firsthand. And everybody came back with only one exception saying that the elections were honest well-run that the people of Zimbabwe Rhodesia had turned out and voted for this government, that there was no coercion. Yes, trucks were provided to get them to the polls but that's been going on in the United States, since we invented elections, we go out and look at Bobby Kennedy and Jimmy Conner did in Florida last week, they had a war of who could have the most buses to get people to go to the polls. I don't see that there's anything wrong with providing transportation to get people to the polls. That was one of the things the critics of the elections said. There was only one of all the observers, only one man came out and said that the elections were a monumental fraud, he called them. This was an Indian from India, Lord Chitnis who was created a peer by the labor government, strange little fellow. He arrived in Salisbury with his girlfriend. Incidentally, the only one of all of us that felt it necessary to bring girlfriend or wife with us to sustain us through the week. He was so upset that he was being put in a hotel that had police guards around it and on every floor, thereby being able to see him and his secretary moving in together that they moved to a different hotel, stayed in a hotel the entire period of the elections, and then went home in London and called it a monumental fraud. Well, you'd get one of those in almost any situation but so the point I've made and I've now talked for 45 minutes and I'm very anxious to open this up a little bit and let other people have their say. I cannot stress strongly enough that we have seen everything done in Zimbabwe Rhodesia. That should be to produce a country, a biracial government now with the blacks in power, but using white expertize working with them when they, this has finally been created. It's on the verge of being over thrown by a combination of Russian and red Chinese radical guerillas run by Mugabe and Nkomo. And if we don't recognize them soon, if we do not allow them to purchase the supplies they need to demonstrate to the guerillas in the field that they can now put down their arms and come in and lead a peaceful life with a black majority rule government. Then we are going to lose Rhodesia. It will become a communist country. We will be denied the strategic metals, and then we'll come a racial war where the Rhodesia the launching pad for the next long scale and big war South Africa. Now South Africa is a whole nother lecture. I'm not gonna get into it now, I will answer questions on South Africa if anybody wants to ask them, but let any of you chime in and give your own views here. And I will answer what I can. Let me let our professor Lourie ask the first question since he is. Whatever they were, they were everything. Well, the answer to that is very simple. If Robert Mugabe and Joshua Nkomo who are the leaders of these people would come into Rhodesia and stand for election as they were invited to over and over again, to me, that would be part of the democratic process, but they don't wanna do it. They've said over and over again, we'll take it by the barrel of a gun because they do not believe they can be elected. Not because of the elections are unfair but because the majority of the Zimbabwe Rhodesian people have had five years of watching the terrorist activities of the communists which are very much like we saw in Vietnam. And I believe it's that the terrorist activities credible tortures and the killings by the so-called patriotic front which to me makes them different. But the answer is all they have to do is come in and stand for election. And they've been asked to, and that's what it's all about. Does that come close to answering? Yes, everybody's got their own commitment. Well, I think they can be committed but they don't have to do it through the barrel of a gun. They can come in and do it through an orderly democratic process. Nobody's keeping them out. All they're asking them to do is not come in with guns. Well, they may feel that they don't want a democratic process, which is basically what it is. I get back to you once again, yes in the white jacket.\r\n\r\n- They are talking of Mugabe as being a communist. How did Rhodesia ever help create communists? Why are we fighting there? In fact, I have a reason to believe. And nothing of the kind was done. And if you yourself and a lot of other people who were supposed to look at the election by the racist government including in South Africa. Your speech is about the electorate pitching properly.\r\n\r\n- Making a few notes here.\r\n\r\n- Everything you're saying about Mugabe is not true, isn't it?\r\n\r\n- I didn't hear that. I'm sorry, what'd you say? Mugabe what?\r\n\r\n- In Zimbabwe right now. And people like you, are the same ones we don't want you to do.\r\n\r\n- Let me answer some of your--\r\n\r\n- Excuse me, I was absolutely curious about everything you say. I haven't read the books out of them for now but I'm not sure what you've written in those books but what you said about the hot fix of Rhodesia, I've stayed there, I've ran away from that country. I was a medical student. I was in prison for three weeks for political especially for myself and I am not a communist. A bit more in Russian and Chinese because if they come here, the United States we are under terrible impression. Can you help us all into his top three right now? I have not finished. And I find it a shame. I find it a shame that people who believe in democracy are people who lie so much. You lie and and you don't give us the facts why the civil war today is involved. And why do they have to go all the way to Russia and the company between the communists. Is there a communism in Zimbabwe? There never would have be communism in Zimbabwe. What we are fighting for is a temporary birth right.\r\n\r\n- I didn't hear you say that again. What you're fighting for is what? What is it?\r\n\r\n- What we are fighting for in Zimbabwe is not communism is nothing else, we're fighting for birth rights. And you say, you want any state to create the country. Zimbabwe was colonized, we fought in 80 90 led by the billionaires. and they got that name by fighting and you that had no relation with CIA, I respect CIA very much, as long as they restrict their activities within the United States. But if they go meddling in countries Addis Ababa they are going to regret it very much.\r\n\r\n- Well, I will try to answer that emotional speech bit by bit. In the first place, I told you my story about the bugging was apple cripple and it was a story they told not because it was true but because it illustrated a point. I told you that at the beginning, I said, this is an apple cripple story. It isn't really a true story. It's one which illustrates a point. It was when I heard, when I was over there briefly. So I'm certainly sure you're correct about what hotels everybody is staying in. And I'm trying to get, well, let me finish answering and then let somebody else. When you say that the Nationalists, the guerrillas, the patriotic front are not communists. The very basis of the problems in London right now is the desire of the patriotic front to take away to break up all the landholdings and redistribute everything, which is what happened in other African countries and happened very unsuccessfully to a point where they don't feed themselves and where Rhodesia has been able to feed themselves. That is a Marxist concept. And Robert Mugabe has said over and over again that he wants a one party Marxist rule in Rhodesia, one party Marxist rule. Now this wasn't my idea. This is what he has said. And it's what Nkomo has said, all I'm doing is repeating what they have said almost every day in the London conferences at one time or another. It isn't my fault that he said that, I'm just repeating what he said. Now, you say that Rhodesia is a racist government. I'm not saying that it certainly didn't have a rather racist overtone up until fairly recently. What I was talking about, my whole point here today is that this year things have changed. And now is the time for us to try to help a biracial government become successful and not punish it for whatever past deficiencies may have occurred. It isn't a government of Ian Smith anymore of the 12 delegates of the government in London. Ian Smith, there are only two whites, one is Ian Smith and the other one agrees with Muzorewa. So I don't see how we can call it racist now. I'm not saying that at one time it was because I saw when I first came there the signs saying that a right of admission can be refused but that isn't the way it is right now. I think you should go back there. I think they need you from what you've told me your training is such that you'd be a very valuable person back there and just what they need. Well, you've had your own people. And now let me ask one other question. You've asked me and I'd like to answer your questions and then I'll go on to anything else. As far as the land is concerned, the Anitabili chief, Logan Gula gave it to me, he sold the land and it was all land, which is not being used. You gotta realize that when Cecil Rhodes went up there with that white column, he was the first ameliorating influence between the constant Wars between the Anitabili and the Shona, whatever you wanna say, at least he stopped the wars for a while. This is all past history. I'm only saying that the land in Rhodesia was created by the people that are on it now. And if you're gonna take it away from 'em you're gonna have chaos, I guess. Let someone else, we'll come back to you. But I think you should have somebody else answer a question. I think you've gotta give everybody an equal shot. You've had seven.\r\n\r\n- I think you're our visitor.\r\n\r\n- No, I see other people wanna ask questions. I mean, you're the only one that can ask a question. Does everybody agree with that? Do you all agree to let him or you speak for all of you? Or do you want him to sit down and let somebody else talk? I want everybody to have a chance. You've had a long chance, so I'll come back to you. But I don't think it's fair not to let everybody else talk. Yes. I am hard of hearing. So if you try to... Well, the land is divided about, and you're right proportionately speaking, the land is divided about 50% to whites. 50% into tribal trust lands. It's about 50 50. I said the land, I wasn't talking about proportionately. Now there's 6 million Africans and 230,000 whites. So that makes it disproportionate, I agree. Yes, right there.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much for this opportunity. Ladies and gentlemen. They brutally murdered there government in Zimbabwe. Well, I've heard communists come from Zimbabwe Rhodesia, then I remember. I'll hopefully support it before I come to the real one. One I'd like to make correction of these issues. The human health, in essence you're only looking... You're not looking at the human health. You'll pick one of the factor of life expectancy of nature. Now you talk of home from Rhodesia being the strategic and communal and strategic for who? For the US. How about those people who enter the mines. To kill our fellow brothers and sisters. Now these people who are fighting, who call themselves socialists, I would like to correct you there. Because the Rhodesian soldiers, these white people like doing when we were in that uniform. You were terrorized and the people maybe, so you were the terrorists.\r\n\r\n- Well, I've heard 'em call 'em terrorists mostly. I haven't heard them.\r\n\r\n- I know the thing I would like to mention to you. How do you define communist? And then you help the people in the United States you have no right to tell people in Rhodesia what to do, just as you people do in United states in about 1775 or 1774, whichever. You fought against the British, and then you won. You were delivered and you formed the type of government you wanted. Now the people of Rhodesia, regardless of their status, which you aspired according by the book. They also have the right of choosing the type of government they want.\r\n\r\n- Let's save some time for some other people. So don't... Let me ask you one question. Are you in favor of sanctions being lifted?\r\n\r\n- Next time you give a speech, try to respect the rights of those innocent people as well.\r\n\r\n- Now, all right, I won't answer that because you've made a good talk yourself. Who hasn't talked? Let me have this fellow right here with a beard. It's your chance yes. All right, that's a good point. Let me say yes, go ahead.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. Yeah, I think you made a grievous mistake, the kinds you made in the speech, because you have never really got deep down with what is happening in Rhodesia. Why the war is important? Okay, you never said anything you know about the population. Okay, the population is 6 million blacks and 250,000 whites. And there were these 1969 let me tell you about it, with distributed 44 million acres to whites and 44 million acres to blacks. And you never said anything about them. Okay, and at the same time, you never said anything about people who had been removed in concentration camps. People today are dying, they are being killed in those concentration camps, but you never said anything about it. You said something about 60 people who were killed in plane because they are white. You mentioned them because they were white. What about all of this people who are killed today is about 44 people are killed everyday, blacks, but you only mentioned white. Is it because you're white? Or are you interested in what is happening in Rhodesia?\r\n\r\n- Well, I don't believe I said that whites were being the ones that are killed. Let me say concentration camps. I don't know any concentration camps, unless you are referring to the camps where they put people to keep them from the terrorists, can't get them. We used to call in Rhodesia, the protected villages. If that's the concentration camp, anybody was free to leave at anytime they wanted to they didn't wanna leave it because they did not wanna be out where the terrorists could get them. I don't call that a concentration camp. And also in 45 minutes, I couldn't say everything there was to say, it took me six hours. You haven't had anything to say yet.\r\n\r\n- It seems to me that one thing you need to do your homework well before you came here to speak. Now, according to what you saying, one thing, I come from Kenya, you mentioned about Kenya that is one of the countries where they distributed --\r\n\r\n- There has been a certain amount of that yes.\r\n\r\n- One thing is, in case you go to Kenya, you don't know Kenya as much as I do.\r\n\r\n- No, I don't, I don't know Kenya.\r\n\r\n- All right, and so that's one point you have maybe you withdraw your remarks. Secondly, it seems to you that the welfare of the US is so much important than the administration of the black man or rather of the people down there in South Africa. In other word, you'd rather supply the arms and you'd rather support the government down there and exploit the black people, and as long as they'll keep the communist going.\r\n\r\n- First place is the black government that I am talking about supporting, Bishop Muzorewa's government. And that to me, I don't see anything wrong with supporting a black moderate government that was elected by the majority. Now you made other points, but I'll just say that. Yes, it's all right, yeah.\r\n\r\n- In the first place, we don't approve that there is a black government in Zimbabwe right now.\r\n\r\n- You don't approve of that black government.\r\n\r\n- There's no black government there.\r\n\r\n- Well, it was elected. I mean, maybe you don't approve of it, but it was elected.\r\n\r\n- What is the government today without an army?\r\n\r\n- What government do you approve of?\r\n\r\n- Is Mugabe the prime minister right now?\r\n\r\n- You mean, you take the position that the government that Bishop Muzorewa's government.\r\n\r\n- Bishop Muzorewa put him there to reflect to the world that it was a black government. Yet he is still the controller of army, he is still the controller of the judiciary, he is still the controller of the government, he has the veto power, he's the governor.\r\n\r\n- No, there's no indication that that's the case now. It was, but it isn't now. Well, that's what you say, but I see no indication that that's true at this point.\r\n\r\n- Why the black government?\r\n\r\n- Well, there was a black government, there is one. Let the young lady say something. I'm talking about the United States losing it as a friendly government. Yeah, I mean, I'm not talking about me personally. I'm talking about the United States, losing Southern Africa. I'm not talking about me personally. And when you say you, you mean United States. Okay, fine.\r\n\r\n- We need to send all these to fight the black guerrilla to kill innocent black people. You should be ready.\r\n\r\n- I didn't say Kenya was poor. I just said that they'd broken up--\r\n\r\n- Whatever you've said, it's on the board, people are starving in Africa. And it's true we're starving. Health rights, number of people starving.\r\n\r\n- There was nobody starving in Rhodesia. Neither of the blacks. That's why they come in there. Well, that's what happens. And then that causes the whole country to go broke. And, but maybe you may agree with David Owen, the recent foreign secretary of England who said is better to starve and lower your standard of living and get rid of those that you don't want. Yeah, who else? I wanna get somebody, yes.\r\n\r\n- Rather than coming to the university, giving a speech.\r\n\r\n- I can only say it's what I saw.\r\n\r\n- Especially you would have appreciated more consideration what we would call justice rather than giving us the usual common was spread really too frequent.\r\n\r\n- You're entitled to your opinion. And I've told you what I've seen and lived through for two years. And as I said I was one of the people that helped bring together the Reverend Sithole, Bishop Muzorewa and chief Chirau into an organized force, which they'd never been before. And so I must say, I think that I saw what I saw and lived through what I lived through and my lecture merely reflects what I have seen. I'm sorry, I didn't like my little story but that was supposed to be, as I said, once again it wasn't supposed to be making any great point. It was just a little story on bugging and who hasn't asked one yet. Now wait a minute. Let's get somebody who hasn't asked one yet. This fellow here hasn't asked one. Yeah, you haven't asked one, have you? Yes, go ahead. No, I don't. I did have, but I don't. But anyway, that's beside Nope, I don't. I don't own anything. My only interest there is that I spent two and a half years there and wrote a book or I'm writing a book. I am interested, yes, as you are. All right, we have the same interest then.\r\n\r\n- I don't think we have the same interest. Anyway you would want the American citizens to support you in trying to justify your interest in Rhodesia. Now my question is propaganda. Let us assume that you lived at the time the United States of America was fighting this war. In the first place, how would you described the Americans against the British. Secondly, how would you have described the British against the Americans. Now coming to the situation at that time very parallel to what was happening in Rhodesia right now. We take the Rhodesians and Americans at that time, and then we take the white man with the similar approach in United States at that time. Now if the same situation is described in plans in Rhodesia. How do you describe the white minority regime against the blacks. How would you have described America at that time.\r\n\r\n- I don't understand how the war of independence impinges upon this situation. I'd like to, but I don't. Let me ask everybody here one question, 'cause I'm interested. How many people are against recognizing the government of Zimbabwe Rhodesia. I can see all the Africans are against it. I'm just curious to see. All right. You have not talked yet. No, all right, then it's your turn. Let's keep it short because we wanna give everybody a shot. We don't want a speech. We want some questions. I put liberation war. You mean the war in Rhodesia? What is the background of the current struggle? The whites were not fighting it the whites we're not doing anything, what now is the patriotic front. Formerly was the ZANU and ZAPU parties fighting it from... I mean, it wasn't the whites fighting it. They were protecting themselves at first and their own people, not just whites, but it was not anything to do with a war of liberation at that time. But everybody calls these things more than liberation. And who else hasn't said anything. You have them right there. It is true that voters in that election in April were not all registered to vote. They came in, if they were there, if they could show that they were or make the people believe that they were native Zimbabweans and didn't come from some of the country, they could vote. But it was a almost impossible task to go out and try to register in a population of 6 million in a short time. So they gave everybody over 18, the opportunity to vote. And I agree in this country that would be a little bit unorthodox to put it mildly but it was about the only way that they could let people vote, was not to make them come in and prove that they were a certain age or anything and I will have to admit it. And everybody said the same thing. There's no secret, nobody said that this wasn't true. That in the election, that many, many people voted that weren't registered. Some were registered and some weren't but everybody got to vote. Who's got in line and wanted to go through the polls. That is true. I don't see anything wrong with it but under the circumstances. But now what was the other question? Could you make it clear for me?\r\n\r\n- You said this sentence anyway, asked you where your interest was, but from your answer to this question.\r\n\r\n- I'm not sure I totally understand you, but... Well it's true that anybody virtually anybody could vote.\r\n\r\n- They have to do election when people are around there at that particular time.\r\n\r\n- I was there. I'm still not totally sure, I get you. There's one gentleman in the back. You've talked a lot of time. Let somebody else have a chance. Well that to you, it may be a lie to you. One man's lies the other man's truth. I mean, that's what you say but there are many others that would disagree with you on that, I'm not going around to kayak. You're next, let him finish. Well, I believe very-- I don't have a CIA tie but I wouldn't mind it, but I don't. Trying to breathe a little truth, a lot of you don't get in here. Well, I noticed that everybody in this room practically is against the current government of Zimbabwe Rhodesia and does not wanna see sanctions lifted. There's nothing I'm saying that I don't believe or haven't seen and have personal knowledge of. Ask me. Well, I believe that I should come around. No, I don't get them every few days, but I'd like to. Well, you probably don't know the problem so that's why you're saying that. No, I'm sorry. That's what we're trying to correct. And the best way to correct, it would be to do what I'm suggesting. All right, now we get back to the second round. I don't necessarily accept that but it's certainly a disproportionate figure.\r\n\r\n- Two things.\r\n\r\n- I didn't understand that. What about 115? Yes, I know Senoia well. Are you talking about the elections now? Are you talking about the elections?\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- That they had 115% in Senoia?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Well, in Chicago, everybody in the graveyards votes. So I don't see that that makes it so much different. There may be election problems. There are in the United States. There are in Rhodesia. I'm not saying they weren't some miss use of the electoral process there. I didn't say that at all. I just said that they did have a 63% turnout.\r\n\r\n- You didn't mention that.\r\n\r\n- They will.\r\n\r\n- Okay.\r\n\r\n- Yes, he did because I met her. No, it's not He took her over to the... Leave that out but anyway. Now who hasn't asked one yet, in the back row. Why do you stay here if you don't like it. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion, you me, everybody. Mine's based on what I saw. Now who hasn't had a chance yet, somebody there. Yeah, there we go. I Can't hear you, can you talk to me so I can hear. Better learn the lessons. Well, I guess I don't see anybody who hasn't had a chance yet. You haven't had a shot. Well, let me say that if I've done nothing else it sounds like I've got a good arguments going and I hope you'll all talk among yourselves and you may hate what I said to say, but at least perhaps you'll all take a look and find specific ways to either refute what I've said, but look into it. And I think there's nothing better than having good discussions going. And even if you don't like a single word I said, at least I think I've got people arguing, talking, thinking, and I hope you'll keep doing it. And as I say, at least we've accomplished that much if nothing else, six weeks in London and they're still arguing. So I hope you yourselves will keep after it and think about it. And if you wanna read my book, you don't have to obviously. I'll leave one copy here and you can pass it around. But if anybody wants to talk to me let's make it informal from here on in and not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45457/file/118415#t=0.0,5658.48"}]}]}]}