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Was an expert in redoing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4289.27,4294.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bone. And so he came out Gail profit was the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4294.42,4299.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"director of the Center at the time. And so you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4299.32,4302.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"said Well I think you'll be all right Larry. We're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4302.18,4303.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"going to have to figure out what do it all here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4303.71,4305.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So they came and said well maybe a little promo","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4305.77,4308.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and soon hospital said would you mind having your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4308.04,4309.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"picture taken. So that's it. That's my story. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4309.97,4314.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"here we go. All right. Well thank you for all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4316.01,4318.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You bet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=4318.4,4318.6"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18451/annotation/1417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/451/original/RS000-017-003_Ebbers.vtt?1599133166","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/018/451/original/RS000-017-003_Ebbers.vtt?1599133166"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18452","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Unedited text [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789/transcript/18452/annotation/1418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- OK. So today is Wednesday July 27 2016 and I'm with Larry Ebbers. Dr Ebbers just retired after serving Iowa state for 50 years as a professor of higher education. So you were interviewed back for the sesquicentennial. So this will be kind of I guess a follow up maybe we can fill in some of the gaps from that other one. So what I wanted to talk about today was pretty much your entire career here at Iowa State starting with you know your student experience here. OK. So you were a student here at Iowa State. You want to talk a little bit about what that was like here in the fall of 1958 from a small rural high school in Iowa Rockwell. Rockwell High School south of Mason City. So you sort of I came here to study education. I did a very good experience in high school with my vocational agriculture instructor who was an Iowa State grad. And he said you know you really need to go to Iowa State. So it came and then moved into Friday Hall and stayed in the Roses department all four years as an undergrad here was where I was also were active in the College of Agriculture at the time. Great Advisors great great instructors who encouraged me to continue what I was doing and that same thing is true in residence life with that time. Chuck Frederickson was my hold when he became my boss. But I worked with him as I had risen I tell the story. But the fact that I moved in and how I got away with it was my room was right above his office. So anyway we laughed about that a lot. But he says he I was dropping ping pong balls and golf balls on the floor but I said no Chuck that's not me I don't play ping pong and I don't golf. So anyway but that's when I was very active in the residence halls as an undergraduate student also very active in the College of Agriculture. So I had a lot of good mentors that I worked with and so then I graduated from Iowa State and in 62 I had a great great student experience very active in all kinds of things you know doing doing all that stuff. But then I taught high school agriculture at Iowa Falls High School for a year and then I moved to Spencer. I won't talk. Agriculture there for two years and then Chuck Frederickson called me and said we're moving out to the towers. And he said Dick Holtz is going to go up the towers. And he said I'm looking for somebody to work with the residents and Friday helps her in Westgate. They said Would you be interested in talking with us about that. And at the time I'd been running all over Northwest I would try to get a master's degree. I mean there's one card you guys would drive out in those days to offer class one night a week. And so we were taking those and I just said you know what. And he said we'll check it can also work on your master's degree. And as I said I think this is a deal dear get him and get the master's degree then we'll decide what we're going to do. So I came back then and in the summer of 65 1965 start July 1 1965. OK so one thing I was going to ask you about. So you were the on campus when Khrushchev visited. Yes I was. You bet. I watched it so well as well as I was that life is pretty exciting. I mean it was funny. That was exciting. Funny we were over by a baron watch. That's where we of course obviously they were. They were there and then they were here and they were coming down. And. A couple guys were in their trench coat you know and today fake guns all that sort of stuff. That was. But it was you know it's interesting time on campus and people you know with the guys connections. My wife is actually from Grand Rapids. Oh baby said some of the guards kids. And so there's all of that that kind of connection as well. But it was you know I think it was a. Time when I think people were paying attention to world affairs and this was you know to have this happen that you know Khrushchev coming here was just like wow how did we pull this off. And I was. Of course I was it because of. But it was a moment in history that we were here for. And so did the Cold War affect life on campus did it. Did you did it. I don't know. I don't think it really affected life on campus that much. We are we obviously had much more activism in the 60s when I was in residence life and sit ins unblinkingly. And I think what I don't like. I don't think there was. Well obviously the communication methods were very different at that point in time and the time was you know concerned about the Cold War and the Russians and all the kinds of things that were going on. And there was always that fear there. But no outlandish protests or anything like that. I think we all knew it was there hoping it might get resolved but that's one of those things that I'm. Thinking about but thinking about the 60s it was pretty wild. Well interesting. So you know as you were going through school you mentioned that there was Chuck Rogers and was somebody who was a mentor to you this was some of the other people that come to mind when my academic advisor in educational studies but they always come. Mr. Bundy Clarence Bundy was his name. He was a professor of agriculture education and had taught at Iowa Falls and was you know he taught me how to teach. There was no question about that other mentors they had in. Country culture. Roger Mitchell who's a state grad who then went on to be dean of ag in Missouri and then V.P. at Kent State then back in Missouri again but just really really took us. Under his wing and just really worked with it. I also had a knocker who was a who was my first and strong and my first instructors up being president South Dakota State. And so the college made another one in the College of Agriculture. I just talked about this morning as Dean Thompson I was very active in the college whatever he called College Council and he was the associate dean in charge of that. So he was he was a very good leader and we worked a lot with him. So it's sort of always had a good set of leaders and the college in that sense of being very student oriented. Matters. Let's see. Not till I got to grad school I guess I was more undergrad. Randy Randy Hoffman is another one. You know again that they would take and doing a lot of the same kinds of thing. They circled a lot of patterns for what do you do independent studies with its faculty members and you do different kinds of things it's not just sitting in the classroom and they have. Lots of lots of good times. We had a very old college agricultural scholar at that point very tight knit kind of group but I still think Dave a lot of that. I mean I would say just so when these last AG leaders whatever their callable is featuring all the leadership kinds of things they do in the college ranks. So it's a very good setting. As. You know people are they're willing to help and do things. And so it was a. Very enjoyable time. So. I wonder I came from Bobby Sam's first generation college student. My parents didn't really know anything about college. Probably the one who was most Israelis as I mentioned with my vocational agriculture instructor a guy named Keith Olsen. I'm a State grad who was passed away. A number of years ago and but he was probably the key wasn't getting me here and stadiums you need to do these kinds of things. You live at the residence hall you live in Fraley I'm going to get you got to get your contract in early and. So. So he was your guy. He was my guy. That's right. He was my guy. So then when you came back to Iowa State you worked in the apartment residents. Yes. And you were out at you here at Fort and rice gate and seeing. Right. Friday I was in Moscow. And how many years did you do that. Seven years. OK seven years. So it's time that I obviously finish my masters and they started a higher ed program then NBC program and art Sandy who was a social dean of 17 students. So she was that exact title but anyway and they started a PDT program on higher ed because to serve the community colleges and he said You know I was thinking about going on and I was at that time time think about science fairs and what what that meant be a V.P. for student affairs ultimately. And he said I said why would you move. He said you can do it right here. He said we have we have. I said I think we can build a good program. So I did a really innovative creative program and that got got a lot of experience outside of my home state in terms of busy institutions. But in doing both private and public as well as the fact that most of our half our cohort and the doctoral program or community college administrators and that's so I got to know a lot of those folks. So let's start in the higher ed program. So I finished my Peachtree and that so I worked resource like that all the way through until I finished my PTSD. Then when I had I'll come back and talk about my resident's experience then I got a call from then Virgil aren't receiving not to him personally but a person who knew him and said there is an opening at his office for an assistant dean. And they were taking applications and want to know if I might be interested. So I sent it in and got a call and they said We'd like to have you come interview. And so we had to say no and Harold Dilts who was the associate dean at the time they were looking for an assistant to the dean to do projects and special things and whatever and anything else that Dean want to have done so. So I. Said then to go over there just four finish my page and send it to him. So. Then there are a number of things happen but my residence life experience was good. I enjoyed it. That's it. Now give me a very good foundation for us obviously. I had a great experience as an undergraduate the residence halls and I. Was a house president all that sort of stuff. You know. Doing doing lots of lots of things that I enjoy doing and so I was able to maintain strong decent academic grade point. Sure. Did you work when you were a student. Well yes obviously. Sure. Even as an undergrad tutor I worked out. I worked for work for farmer and worked on it on weekends out farm. And I would say grad and so they used had we have job boards at that point in time. You know you go by and say OK you want to look for a job. Sure. So. So I went I worked on the farm on Saturdays. And sometimes during the week you know during harvest season I would go out to someone's house. So when you were working in residence I mean that would have been during the the anti-war protest years. Yes. You know I've always wondered you know. How did that compare with those like the protests. Maybe that would be like student protests on campus. You know the African-Americans in the 90s I was there for those the teen students this past year. Sure. It's you know it's activism has always been what I can say be pretty civil on this campus compared to most. I think you know we were out there. All of us in student affairs were out there with students suddenly and we when they blocked Lincoln Way We Were At C.Y. Stephens when they had a big Vietnam rallies over there. So we were very visible. And so you know obviously you know a lot of students and a lot of students very passionate. But there was no real what I call civil disobedience although we were all concerned when they bombed city hall that you know that was like a shocker Drew. So we weren't quite planning on that one and it had very good leadership and soon affairs that buying time. Tom arts ending time video check the essence like myself to colds. We just knew lots of lots of kids. And so you would understand their concerns. Give them you know there was never any intention to shut them down. But you know it didn't ever really became violent in any respect to that one incident probably. But it's. But there was a pretty respectful culture on campus. I think there was a good relationship between faculty and staff and students which I think helped. One of the things I think I would say prides itself on the one things I've seen at least you know of course obviously you can find some people would say that's not true here. But overall I think it was a very concerning group and obviously we're all concerned about the war as well. And yet you know we didn't interject our opinions. We had some faculty who obviously much more. Involved. With that in terms of their political points of view. And so it's you know we felt as know affairs that we need to be open and work with working with students to understand them to give them opportunities to express their opinions and even in the early cases where we had. Racial issues with. I mean obviously we had the African-American. I mean that was primarily and at that point and for a long time. Minority here I was statement African-American and we. Selected the first black R.A. and I worked very outside the football team living and friendly and held her. And so obviously I got to know a number of. Big time athletes. And. Some some the famous ones that were here and some that were not so famous that were. Not not African-American but a couple of other guys were. Hell Raisers not knocked out the window in what used to be the pizza Eisenhower's cafe both later one night. Of course we all knew it was this. But. But. But I enjoyed those kind of experiences and so it was a Friday when we had Friday and it was a West Gate when it first came as. No visitation policy only on Sunday afternoon matchbook door had to be open and. That was my it. And then of course obviously we women women into family and. Men and women both in that system. So. So was that something that the students demanded or was it something that you could tell was happening at other places. I would say we had remember those meetings in the basement of are complex but it meant that the men's rights and women's rights association and women's rights associations that played the course the men were obviously much more lax in this. And so it's a visitation policy. And we work through it. I mean you know they weren't asking us to senior level administrators what year we should be doing this. And. That's why we're all young. And so I'd say they were pressing for it not you know not violently but couldn't understand why we wouldn't do this. So. Yes very interesting. It was a fun time. Oh OK. So after after working the residents they started working in the College of Education at. Do you remember were you involved obviously. I think when you started there the college education was already formed. Right. Do you remember some of the conversations leading up to that. Was there opposition is another unique kind of thing that existed Friday. Hall was the place. That Arabian cheer came to for coffee at 10 o'clock in the morning. I'm serious. I mean it was it was I mean you know you go through all the annals of beer cheer and I mean obviously the president in Campbell Park did come when he was a V.P. But lager was saying it would come out gallon in gallon would come the rainstorm would come Fred Sloan's. Director of Admissions would come and it was it was the morning coffee group and Virgil while Dorsey used to come to and because he came to Iowa State his goal was to develop a college education. There no question about that. He started out with a teacher ed and vocational education and it just kept working and working at it. And. Then I think fall of 68 I think because the college was formed I was a student at the time. And grad school. So. But I mean I didn't know a lot of nursing because obviously because he didn't come as often as some others did. But that's where he found out what was going on at the university and so one of those informal groups that existed that I think still exists today in some way shape or form. I don't know to what degree but it was great for young guys. I mean you know they had all this knowledge and and listening to these guys talk about university issues and. Formation university and Parks's humanization of the university and I always tell the story. That I came. I said in and I wanted 1965 as I said. We we couldn't find housing in town. So we ended up. Living out in Hawthorne Court at that point. And there's a tunnel to walk through the tunnel through able track. So I walked that as I walk to work so I was walking to work and so I came back and cast cutting up tribute you're going to Friday and here was Dr. Parks coming. I didn't know him at that point. I mean I knew he was obviously he was walking into beard chair that same morning because that was his first day as president of the state. Is that right. OK. So I said Well I tell the story as well as index Parks went up to his office and I walked on through. But I've had the good fortune of knowing every president since Dr. Parks on a personal basis. So it's been a. And I didn't get to know him on a personal basis as you mentioned Dr. Parks was a kind of a sponsor the promoter of this new humanism right dealers. Do you think the college of education and the college design would have happened if another president would have been. If we had a person who was primarily Engineering and Science Technology. Probably not. But I think at that point you looked at broadening the university and doing the kind of thing you know of course obviously. Dr. Parks was I think a story and I think. And so that get back up and that but that humanistic kind of level. I mean I I didn't know I did meet him once but you know beyond that as a student I mean nice. So it's but I think he really did bring a new sense of that broadening the university and making him more than just engineering and agriculture in ways that I think that you know his books say that and I think everyone else will document that so. So I moved to a college education. And was there obviously when I first moved there there were no departments. The idea was that we're going to create new. New kinds of things here and we're going to go without departments for about three or four years by the time I got there and they decide to do departments there are obviously when you work in the culture of the universities department based culture based it's nice and I say the sciences later on I see it now. I would say doesn't understand schools know what. What is the school of journalism what is a school of education they still treats children it's pretty much like departments. So that's it. So we really haven't moved that much because culture is hard to change culture is hard to change. I mean outside that's good or bad but it's just difficult to change it. So the stature of a school within within a college and what that means don't really defined. But if we now if we went to a couple of years ago they're talking about more schools that I think they would have to sort of change in eighth or ninth. They've kind of backed off from that now so at least from what I understand. So what was it. So how did you develop then or the departments in the College of Education how is that determined. Well they decided obviously one of the things that Dean was saying one did it start in elementary ed program. It was already it was high or housed in the College of home economics at that point. And he really thought that to have a college education you know my tree. So it was very interesting to watch the politics of all of this. He was a very skillful politician probably. I mean I learned my politics from him. He knew his way around this place. He was very very skillful and just just knew. Excuse me so as this thing was coming together. The question obviously that was one of his long term plans was to top a college education and then. Which means departments. So obviously one of them was elementary and they had physical education women physical education for women led by Dr. Faulkner. It was a very strong strong as women I've met. Brilliant. And Department of industrial education and technology and those that say we had five C and then a graduate program called professional studies education and that's where I got my degree. So I was itching to get your degree and then all of a sudden you're in a leadership role. When you went out with the professors that you had in that system which as I said I became department chair I had several of them reporting to me that it right instructors. So that was a unique. I mean it's good. But I mean it was just you know I learned a lot there. But to so we went. So we formed the departments and then also then one of the other big things that came along. This whole issue of men and women was combining physical education with benefits education for women. That was that was an interesting process and again handled very skillfully. Barbara Walker and I can't remember the guy's name was head of beef man. Anyway it's not important but there are very few women leaders on campus and I could work for Dean Heller Barrett and Heller who was quite an administrator. I didn't know her well I mean I knew most of her associates but in a way so that when one came over and then ultimately she was named head of the department she also worked with athletics that time athletics were part of our budget. And so that was an interesting thing watching the dynamics with athletics and how this was before they moved off the payroll. We had instructors who were know on the payroll who took classes as well as coached not the head coaches but certainly a lot of these coaches were there. So we went through that was it it was it was an interesting one to watch that to go together and Barb did a great job of leading that. I mean there was there were some real fights on campus but what about that sort of stuff. It's very skillfully mastered attendance. So it's a. She was. A. Kim was on the U.S. Olympic Commission and you know much about by referring her when she was about nine because that was there would've been about shortly after Title 9. Yeah right. After all the Title Nine suffered. So it was really you know Thailand came down. I think it was you know obviously she was extremely well qualified but also at this point to to say that you know tight line statements made by workers as. Our. Head of physical education at that point obviously got through several iterations now and physiology. So that's a. Let's see here. So all right so you started in the College of Education right. You were you graduated from the program and went to the college and then started teaching. I started to actually have part of my responsibilities are budget personnel. OK. And and also. I ultimately became to spend a lot of time on the remodeling project of of. Libraries was not like it was you know. So I would do lots of things like that. But I also taught my if I taught my first off campus class the way time was back in the day when we were flying airplanes and so flew me to Decorah Iowa to teach my first class higher ed the guides there. So it's. The least to fly around a lot until they sold planes obviously got a little business with the Pomerantz saying you really shouldn't on planes. But some great experiences flying around the state here at 530 drop off somebody at it you know could be Spencer and then you'd go to the car and then Cedar Rapids and they would just rotate back around because all up and then it was one of my more unique experiences. But it was it was a good time I enjoyed it. But anyway. So I started teaching I usually taught one class a semester or back in the quarter I'm sorry the quarter. So I teach class every quarter and do the administrative work and then. Ultimately after Sandy left to become. Vice President and affairs and oversee Florida. He was the one who started the student affairs academic program. For people. Under where consumer affairs. So our Tom Goodale and I had been teaching with our CO teaching with a man. He decided to take this job as first vice president University of Florida Tom Good. I went with him as the dean of students. OK. So essentially. I took over the student affairs academic program because or anybody else. We all sat at that time we hired well Milt Milt Brown was doing the community guide stuff. He came out of Michigan and came here. And then. Ultimately decide to retire. And so I heard Jim Ratcliffe to come in from Washington state and he came in and he worked for me and got inside the house. I didn't see the fair side of the house. I was like it still has pretty much. And anyway so then. Ultimately what in nineteen eighty seven eighty eight Jim got the offer to be ahead of this director of the Center for his study of higher ed at Penn State. I mean you see all these stories weave together here. So he became director of the center out there. And we had. We didn't hire anybody in community. I just I started doing more. Part of this because I taught my classes and used to to communicate. Off campus I mean I prefer to do off I mean although I taught on campus too. But when we hired Dan Robinson to go over and teach part time for us. At the counseling center and so we built that around there he was the first African-American professor. And ultimately we know but well things that receive those was devoted to diversity. We hired Gandhi and we create create the Research Institute for Studies in Education and I hired the former president of the American Association of Colleges and I would say great he had a degree from I would say something African-American. And. I think here. But I am so so sorry. The research institute back in probably mid 80s. And. Crazy and can't come with his name really good guy and so. But the research institute that obviously has really grown since that time as well. So it's a major part of the college education. So it's a lot of good work primarily valuation studies but over time. I headed that one for a little while too. So it's. So then I. We also had to get back into J. J stand the Armando's a distinguished professor at Iowa State. He had the name names cities up Denver was potentially coming back and so he came back then Andre Brandon retired. So then he was here for his department chair for six eight years something like that and that's in my year you're 12 in the dean's office. He retired. And. So I had. Somebody always told me that they wouldn't hire Dean if he had been a department chair. That was the sort of thing. You had to be a department chair. That was that was that was the common feeling you had to be a department chair. So I looked at that and said And so now there's another. Yeah there's. Yeah that's right. So I get my stories here straight. So it's. So I would always do as department chair of professional studies education which was then obviously and probably three or four people professors or I'd had four classes. But. In the end your way to do that I worked a lot more so you know. So it was a. National Search and I thought how to do that. Toughest job on campus. I've been the toughest on campus. You know you're working with your colleagues. You try to move the programs along. And it's just. It was a real learning experience that we had at the same time that now. Yeah well water here. You're all part of this. And then. All right. So you're talking about being head of the department right. Yes. At that time then there came the duplication study. OK. That was a huge deal. Pomerantz I wanted to do a duplications a bit more. Pete Mark and me was the group that they hired. So that's it a mid 80s. We didn't know about till the paper. This thing was all done sort of. And. And then obviously they targeted. Education as one of those that was for duplication. I remember commercial democracy called a meeting Sunday night 630. Said we need to fight this thing obviously if we want to have anything in the future. So we set about a process to do that and we generate more mail than Pomeranz ever seen about an issue in his life. Of course obviously we weren't always journalism. You know the guys that were there of course obviously I knew several those guys and home economics was another one. Course obviously we had the primary only economics here. And I had a small in the journalism an year education with two big ones. And I literally spent. Time using every pot every political connection we had politic politicians say Board of Education folks. One of the things that ultimately in my opinion saved us was the fact that in 1987 we had started a program for women and minorities in leadership roles in community colleges. And came How can you do away with. A program. For women and minorities. I mean if you're going to have graduate programs they need Master's and PGD the same thing is true of men. We don't a to work with that minorities and. At that point in time trying to recruit minorities and women into the educational leadership roles at the K12 level. So those are two big foci at that point. Ultimately we ended up losing PGD in counseling history philosophy comparative. Research and Evaluation and one of them. But obviously you know what that did for the Department morale. I mean it was just a split down the middle. Those of us in higher ed and you guys you know you saved yourselves because I was the chair of the department and we had a couple of pretty powerful guys in it and at that point in time and so the rest of guys thought that they were just all short changed. And that was the toughest was tough after that really tough. You can't build morale or that sort of stuff. Thank you guys. Glad you got to attend. So it's. Well we survived it 10 kept PHC programs and so. In that way it was a good thing because obviously if you're on a graduate program. In our areas you don't really do much well. Right. Right. So. So I was the kind of thing and also at the same time let's see what there was one other. Well we started the program at that point in time because this is before Jim left. He would probably were planning. And then he slept left there right away after we'd planned it. But to a woman who came to Dimock and she said she came in the executive Dee IndyMac and said Well shit there are no women in leadership roles in the state. Can't we do something about that. And so we started this program that would be for women and minorities and there's no way you could get into it was that way. And we went to the community college presidents. And again. When I was when I was in my first class I taught Kalmar OK. And so you know obviously you said you said all this stuff in motion before. So we had to prevent to this proposal to do this and that what we're going to do is come to the president's meeting. And they will sit around learn how to be present by watching the president's work. So we get to perhaps have Jim left hand. So I said okay I'll just I'll just do it. And. So. We had then another woman became a naughty boy and who was on loan from I actually got a PHC with me. From communicating engage. So I said you can. You can use her to help start this program. So. So then. Two days a month we would be someplace where we actually at that point and we're going to continue French prisons means let's pursue the president's running into executive session every time we turn around. I said this is not working. And when the president said he said other very said this this program is ruined our president speaks. I said OK let me let me think about this so he went out and developed. So he now he's going to prison it's been one time. For a four hour session. So and so we said but perhaps continue to grow. We've had we've finished now I think for some I've got it in here in my. But for some Lakers and three and in some click. And so then in the midst midnight it would've been mid 90s and so the men were saying what's for us what's for us. So he had a guy named Chuck McFarland who was at the Mac. The president let him go for a variety of reasons good was one of our students. And we were able to get an assist chip and he said what he said. So what do you do. Is it wise I know these guys are working on this leadership stuff with me. It's a chore because he was an executive iMac at that point in time very creative. And so we started this then for middle upper level managers. So so we start that in. Nineteen ninety five. So we just finished our 20th year last year we have twenty twenty seven twenty six year old Lincoln so so the communicates leadership roles now 10 and 15 presidents have been through that link click or have an Iowa State degree. Twelve of the 50 chief academic officer seen 10 of the chief student affairs officers have been through. And so something like a hundred and ten deans and them programs. So they've been very successful. It's pretty impressive. So. So you've been working with community colleges then your whole professional career then haven't you. Where are you from Weatherby. I'm from Maynard Maynard northeast. Have you met. Well it's not too far from Rockwell. I'm always down over a women's basketball big deal out of Maynard. OK so then. 80s and 90s great success. I'm sure you're a 80s 90s obviously. You know we are still. Our core programs or continue to grow and we had good at one point in time we have to separate NC and our state. So those guys were already growing in that area and we're seeing a retired. And. Of course I had been very active and. This is when Milt Glick and. Courtney 14 was present. So you need to go back here. I was on the search committee for Gordon. He was also a friend of ours and he was also he helped us get started with the k 12 minority. Leadership Program. Funded us. Mechanics was his hatchet man at that point in time called Samson but those guys do they just gotta he's got a thousand dollars out of Eden to start this program. So they get that. Dream. But obviously he knew what they were doing to me so I had a good relationship with him. And and I was also chair of the department chair group. So I met with Milt on a regular basis. We had monthly meetings and just keep him keep in touch. What's going on so long we're seeing him decide to retire. They turned around if you call you back and take a look. But Eaton and. Milt turned over most the most of the day in fact they took them all over. Virgil was the last. To go. And he went to the foundation for a little while. So that was part of it. We found out later there was a mandate for change that the ED From Pomeranz. He knew that but. That was it. At least that's the way the story goes. OK. And so anyway. Don chip came open. They came over Mel came over and. And Gordon did. I know Gordon came in I believe we had a meeting with faculty and so the question was asked well is it really open is it is it. Is it really internal candidates as well. Yes it's very open very open. So it was still the process. So anyway. So I put my stuff in. All my materials and then of course I was thinking that the search committee. And. I had. And so it's a search me and. Of course obviously you're close. You know what's going on. They told me on Friday afternoon they didn't tell me but when my friends showed me that I came out the search I was one of five names recommended to me. And. So Monday morning I get a call from Mel times that Larry did talk to you. So basically you're going nowhere. So I went over. He said well he said I want to tell you. He said no you can't. You came out of the search committee. Gordon took your name to Pomerantz and I said I will not approve. I don't have this unofficial but I will not approve and I was granted. He said So let's say you have a chat. He said You can go through this. And Gordon went back to him again. He said no. I said I will deny it at the board office. I mean obviously that the parents dealt with that. That's what I heard from from Milton. We actually ended up working very well together. So I said Well I'm out I'm out. I said I'm going to do that. I said it's not. For you. Not good for me not good for you guys. So just so I just said OK. So that boy that I thought well if I want to be a dean of courses Mel was very insistent he said he'd never hire anybody in a department chair TBD so they hired a woman out of Florida. Who worked for a couple of years with Larry David was their name and his system wasn't going to miss. So I figured out that I you know one of the things you don't observe and watch and that all department chairs who went out of their roles got a year's leave or six months leave for and they still do it today you get six months to go back and retool yourself. So I said OK we'll we'll think about where we're gonna go. So I went and looked at four different places and ultimately. I ended up going to Penn State that's where Jim Ratcliffe was got a visiting appointment for there. I talked to in fact class or Penn State but also helped him work on and we wrote a grant we got a grant so I could say that you could say for the entire years I bought myself out here. And so there are lots of stories to go with all that. But anyway. Well the things they did they had the National Center for Teaching and Learning there which was a big tent. Jim I've done a preliminary Grant and I stayed here. But then this one was a really big time. If you think about higher ed I mean they were all part of this project to get giving name a charity. Ernie Pascrell. Laura Rendon Tinto. All those folks are big time hire and it's you know is probably the most well-known at this point in time but because the other guys have retired. So I worked with them and then and had this idea about learning communities in. And so I did a fair amount of work. And I thought you know this is an idea and possibly that we're here. Other thing. But the fact is that so I came back that year and. Did hit the great task force to look at the whole Greek system because you know I was back and I was I was freaking out finally. And then we started to talk and I said Well what about this can you use them. So I think that's an idea that we have to think about. So got together a group of probably eight to 10 of us have joined affairs have academic affairs and when we also do at that time you know we had to spend all the money at the end of the year. And you could you couldn't you couldn't carry over any. And so we knew that there was a pot of money there and so he pitched this idea to Gigi. This was just you at the time. Let's say we would really like to think about starting learning communities here we did Vince the broadband standard here we brought paternity leave. We just kept bringing these people are went on doing during his seminars and talking about the whole idea of learning things. And anyway so we said to we got together. And so he pitched this thing. I can't remember Howard Shapiro. We had we had four out of we met every Friday and then we'd we started then with the of key people and Kathy Jones at the registrar's office she had a key because obviously I did a bunch of scheduling. So we did it. We did from the ground up period to a class with anyone in this class and one other class. And so that was the way we started her. We didn't quite follow them but we followed them model. We work it obviously. So we have we've got we got. A fair amount of money from Jessica. Take a look at this so we flew around. We flew to Michigan and Michigan state Maryland. I mean not all the school every time. But the media. But then he would pay for it we used the money for travel. So we got all these ideas back and started learning any stuff with the help of Kathy and then English department came on big time. Mike Mendelsohn so you're traveling to these places because they'd already instituted some of the ideas they just started. So we're looking at what they did. Maryland particular Michigan State. Those are the two where they had some kind of form way of living learning. We used the Michigan state model because they did a lot with living learning residence halls. They took the classes right in the residence halls all that sort of stuff. And. So that Marilyn had a little bit different system and so we created our own system here and Callie was I think. It was on the first group. That Courtney Doug Greenwald and. Things aren't going to move in. So there's a group of us that met and came up with this idea with the idea then and then we started off with a small set learning learning community groups business was really mostly interested. I'm working with the college bank so they. Say with 13 communities and obviously it's taken off. I mean I did that for probably three or four years and then. Well things. I have a tendency to start things and then move on to something else. I mean I'm just looking for the next thing. But I just do the learning things and well. Howard Shapiro and caught work really took it over and really moved to the next level. So. But I mean obviously they 75 percent of our students go through the learning community in some way shape or form. Think it's a great way. It's still still done very well. So that's certainly more ranked in the top five in the country and those sorts of things. So that was fun being a part of that. Wonderful. So. So. It's. Something that might not have been so much fun to be part of. So in 2000 late early 2000s the College of Education in the U.S. college of consumer science was answered yes the decision was made to merge the merge those. Yes yes. So this was a course they were doing it all over the country. And of course you get that kind of favorite. You look to save money. We actually if you were to go back and save a dime. I mean if you really really want to be realistic we can save a day when we can make school of education. And so there was a lots of obviously. Consternation about that and it was happening all over the place and it was the kind of thing that could make that expands or chest fried with this whole thing and they're even demonstrating in front of your chair and they were told very nicely don't do it again. So I mean this thing was set up way. I mean that's part of our people don't say the political process. This thing was a done deal before it ever started. I mean Gordon and not Gordon but. A joke. Great. And and Ben Allen was the V.P. at the time. It was all set with the regents. I mean it was done before they had the regents votes and you know the thing was gonna go through. So so the matter is I figure out how you're going to best do it. And so it was we had you know obviously the mold Melcher was the dean of education at that time and. We had an interim thing. I think maybe Pamela it may have been the internal economics. I think she was dead and I just said you know this thing's gone through. So you had to figure out how got to make the best of it. Obviously it did. Cheryl October came in is the first time. I got on with her fine. And she was very supportive of the communicator program that we had. But it was it was bumpy it was bumpy. Cultures are so different faith college is so different. That how they evolved. That. Home Economics. A education of very strong leaders doing it their way. Very conservative. And that's not good or bad. They were. I mean I knew obviously most of those folks. And. Worked closely with them. And. So as. We were appointed a special committee to look at the name and I was on that committee. And so there are three of us from education and and three family consumer sciences and so. Gordon said he want this. And I think now by that point and we said well okay well well said well we'll study this for a year and he said I want your answer in six weeks. Wanted a name and when was named six weeks. So we you know that's then that's how human sciences got in there. You know. There was some that passed by one vote. Faculty Council. At that time in fact the science council said it. Was. Because someone more concerned about using the medium in the sciences in it. So we had you know obviously if. We had this thing to think at that point then we transferred I think industrially it would take one or two. To engineering. Yeah. Yeah. And so that was part of this plan we had. So we had we changed the name of professional status education lesion Policy Studies. Took that through. There was an ally. There's another old clip back in here that you know in our standard terms the evolution of the college education. This was before we move to human sciences. The dean who came in to replace Dean I. You know ultimately decide to return your love of teaching. OK. I'll leave it at that. And anyway there is a whole checkered story here. So at that point we also had a tough sexual harassment case going on in the college mean a tough one and. Anyway so that they appointed then that would be the interim dean of college education. A bright woman brightest woman I've ever seen. She never made a decision like me. She's now ahead of the speech ahead of the. Vanderbilt Peabody College education number one college education country. So we sat there and part of the issue with the previous Dean is that she wouldn't hire anybody. We had all these positions sitting out there like 32 unfilled positions etc. So Cornell came in as the as the interim dean and they she asked me if I would be one of the associate deans I'm associated with Dean Richard. I handled that the operational side of the House and Dean handled the research side of the house. So we had we had the. Every department chairs cleaned that out and. Just keep in fact came over and said. You know we weren't doing much for publication not doing much for contracts and grants not that sort of stuff over the years. You don't clean this place up you guys are gone. I mean I don't think we ever I'm just you know I was a student when I was here. Anyway he's pretty pretty top down guy. I mean I like to get along fine. So it's. Anyway he said you clean this place up and so he essentially said OK we're going to run higher stars. We had 32 faculty in two years 16 of them tenured. And it was it was an exciting time. We provide a strong foundation. We are married at least one star in every area. We said we'll get one star in every area. Of course that obviously caused some difficulty with current faculty because they thought they were going to be made of those leadership roles. We just decided to change the whole tenor of what was going on. And we obviously really had that the hiring department was on some team in a department top 10. So we heard we got really good people to do that. So. So we changed the nature of this place considerably changed the culture considerably. So we had all those changes going on and then. She was candy Egypt did not get it. For a variety of reasons but to add to no confidence vote cited departments and because she was. She had made a stand on a couple of promotion and tenure issues that probably you know we talked about. I can't talk about now but under normal circumstances would've been promoted and promoted so that you know. So there was all of those kinds of internal politics and you know the world of promotion and Daniel very well but it can get pretty messy sometimes. So she left once Vanderbilt. And. Took the job there and. Then Walter Mondale came in as Dean who was a friend of mine who had known for a long time a good guy. And. Then ultimately and this whole decision making process for the coming combination of education and home economics. Neither Pam nor Walt we're going to get the job because they thought you know you can't do that. I mean you can't choose the side you were assigned because you if you did it. So so I hired Cheryl October who came to us she was dean of the honors program at Penn State who Joffrey had worked with before. So he knew her but her problem was that she didn't have any great academic experience and promotion and tenure stuff. I like to read along fine. She's out of the Ohio State. There's a whole bunch of series of snares in there. I don't know if you've heard about her. She was out on the interview process and they taped her at Ohio State. Why should she want to leave Ames said a couple of things that were not good. And so that's history now. But she got the IOC job anyway and so that was that it was a firefight. Oh my gosh. Oh man. After she did that. So it was things things were done. It's hard to come when trying to find two colleges and without a lot of academic experience. And she had to break him. We didn't have that kind of academic experience that. So but we got through it. And. Then. Obviously we had out for a couple of years and then Pamela ultimately became the dean you know. And so it's a. Combination. I left the dean's office then and. It's like I tell my students is it's always hard to work for good friends. I mean you can you know it's just me and I were good friends and just you know he he had a different style. He came from Washington state. And while we'd been we'd been to Harvard together for. Management Leadership Programs a couple of other places. And so I'd get to know him pretty well. And. I used to say at that point they had offered to. They were looking for somebody to do the. Community college strategic planning process. The legislature put the mandate that community colleges do a reorganization study take a look at the spending. You have too many. What do they do. How do they work. What do they do period. We have no strategic plan. And then looking into that stuff. Of course obviously Leslie mind. They did and they said we're going to force you to do this but there's no money. So the presidents were really concerned about it. Of course obviously. And we got to talking and they said well there's a woman out of the Department that is going to coordinate. But she said would you be willing to co-chair. That's true. So he. At that point in time I just said you know I can't do this stuff. And with world everything and he he had he had one thing about Iowa State is the associate needs to make all the decisions. I mean realistically that's where the power base is. Dean's out raising money or doing other kinds of things are based on social media. And Walt came from a model where she beats her staff. OK. So let's just say he wasn't used to that kind of a model. And so when we're still good friends today. But I just say you know. I said your model modeling my model are different. And I've got this opportunity to do this communicate say that to a lot of time. But I really want to do that. And so that's when I left the beach. So I associate each other so I obviously worked on the fact strategic plan for a couple of years. We got that through the legislature. Visited every community college in a series of roadshows and networking with. MARY. MARY Weinberg. She was a tax equity consultant department. And so we went around the state and did that day and we were obviously we had a committee that we worked with including. That time. They'll say stop aid education aid. And. Jack Kibby who is. Sort of the father's system assistant a state legislator and was Senate president. So. Did that for a couple of years. Was we got that done. Of course obviously. And we continue with our click programs but also I stayed fairly involved. In university activities because I knew I wasn't doing as much with the with the. Me learning community Marlo. Still when we started we did the first. They still happen now. Of workshop conference we did to be one first and then now it's down to one day. But I still stay connected with that source but not a lot in a way that would know about the day to day kinds of operations. So. It was. But we kept link click programs going. Which obviously ultimately we started then. Core PDT program. About 10 15 years ago. So there is. No way that communications administrators are going to be at work on their pitches. You know given the fact you know if you're if you live in Kalmar Iowa you're not driving every day for two classes a week you're not coming down dragging out oh they did someone did early on. So we put together this innovative program where people communicate folks would said they can either you know we put it up on Thursdays and Fridays. So we started a career program teaching courses on a block basis. So you plan to do six six half a semester one course then switch up to the next then we can do it on Thursdays Thursday morning 8:00 go through Friday afternoon at 5:00. And. With school with each of these classes we made it work. And so that's so a number of people feel for the traditional. They had a hard time with that would be our time because well you can do a pizza you like that you can do a pizza. So it's you. So that's. That's that's gone well so far but obviously now three of us are with leaders of programs two of us are retired and the other one for another instruction. So it's sort of sitting there teetering a little bit but we'll see what happens. So that was that was another thing that we did that you know obviously because they were saying you know. There was a real shortage of leadership and those that triggered academic fears level at the presidential level way things that sort of. Helped in this whole process and I get started in this. I do. I've worked with boards on searches for presidents and vice presidents. I do a lot of that. And then to see I've done open to the communication state at one point. So it's. Obviously worked very well. You know a lot of noise I heard I would say folks but I don't want to work at the national level both in communications and student affairs. So I have. A wide range of contacts. So that's what I'm now continue to do that my retirement time. So I. Already have one lined up for next year so. So it's it's I mean all this stuff just sort of fits together you know variety ways connections. So then about five or six years ago the School of Education was here and they. Ran on the blocks. Come up said. A. Couple of the seated freshers Larry we've got it we've got to get school of education right away. They said no. I said you can't do that at this point. I can't eat this one day. So I said the political stuff around the home economics issues education issues forced democracy and I was very disappointed that he did not like that at all. Because he built the college and then done well done well. And we use a mastermind in getting the facilities. You know we did a number of things that were very politically active and already the money funding for like I say and he was smart enough to know it stakes down the line number nobody has ever told people what were I. And so. He had the political will power to get his connections in the legislature as well as he was. He was a former student Tajbakhsh. Okay that helps. So. So you never know when those things have come around so I might. Well we did all that stuff. But. Was it just jumped off the tubby. About the formation of the formation squad. So anyway. And Pam this you know Christine every Dean wants to do something like this you know every vice president wants to show that. And that is you know what we thought about school education and its time. We were pretty highly ranked. And I don't mind saying this I said what I said and not the media I said why would you marry the ninth grade department. Why why why would you be the ninth rated program in the country with a 96 rated program. C an idea a lot of work. And. Then she said she so we went to vote C and I voted 14 zip to do it and helps the chancellorship policies is 1 7 7. But she said Dude we're to go ahead and do it. So we had this whole series of meetings which were a little bumpy. The other finally here and times and I sort of picked out if you don't Internet. She's retiring to say OK if this existed then you do have to leave it. So we did informally didn't do it you know because we had a formal social needs for each of the areas doing this stuff. But we worked around the point about and went together and said you know we put a lot of work and there are some concerns which are still existing. So you know the philosophies of cultures were again very different very different. CNI comes out with what I call the K12 mentality and we have it where we're sort of you know they look at us Dennis the principals the presidents I'll say you guys just run like wild dogs do whatever you want to do. So there is some of that kind of stuff going on. But I'd say it's it's gotten together reasonably well at this point. But the major problem is they made an error in the selection for a structure that was chaos. How is the school structured essentially. Well that's I mean we've tried to operate as one unit. The section that we moved back to the. Last year we ultimately end up where we have a graduate program or you know an undergraduate program here. So essentially CNI helps but people want to be careful they don't say that because you know census. Things change. Well. But they made they made a wrong hire for the director of first grade school was not a bridge builder at all and people were crying. I wasn't involved in the search because I was gone at the time and anyway. But they were told what this guy would do and they actually end up doing exactly what they said they do and they said oh no we checked deeper than anybody else. We think it's not a problem. So it was a disaster. I mean. So I mean you spent the entire year fighting that whole thing fighting that thing. So I was just I mean so it's sad it sat for a year in turmoil because of the leadership. I know Pam hadn't planned on that but that's ultimately what happened and they had a break and they brought in this big consultant to come in and interview all the faculty or they were going to interview 25 faculty and to pay tribute 46. And so it was a mess. And the guy didn't understand culture and didn't I mean you know one of things. I mean you know that you know and understand you studied the culture of the institution when you come to be your chair you're a good guy. You're right. I mean if you're coming to a meeting beard you're here to go and die. And he would come in his jeans and invest vest. And all that sort of stuff and you know. Faculty meetings were disastrous. So it's a. But I mean he didn't know the coach didn't want to understand the culture. The consultant brought in. Said these are the kinds of things you have to do in order to be successful. So I can't do this so that he. Sat down. So then so then we went through Judge you came back in and. Of course Johns a job was department chair and followed me did a great job and Educational Leadership and Policy Studies and then he retired and then ready back to do this. So he was in the first six months of Bali. So. So I think it's better now. But it's still about building the culture as so many of us are retiring. So it's it's a it's a very different culture. We had four of us retired this year three the year before. So they don't sign it you were going this year or so. I'm. Sorry having turned over there so much as being 60 countries. But. So. Why were you successful at Iowa State. What was it about here that. Clicked with you in that time. I want the things that I think. I think one things that I've always been student centered. I mean I think that's I've. I've loved working with students and you know that you can learn a lot from them and. We worked together pretty well. I had some very good mentors at the start of the process. That knew and understood the old Iowa State and still so pretty much here today. And even though these people say the culture really change it's still still a commitment to students. And of course obviously much more research focused now than it was back then. It's a different time different place to resource funding from legislatures decreasing. So you don't have the money you find in some places. I think there's there's certainly been some culture change there but to the people I've I've had great experiences. You know. I was able to work both sides of the House in terms of student affairs and academic fairs. And that's been that's been an advantage for me. Some of the guys you know like the whole group worked with all the time he's been here 30 some years when he's engineering. You know I worked. Too. So it's. Kind of thing where you get involved and that stuff gets no lots people. So I'd say it's a. It's an environment I love. But I've also studied it and understand it. That you know that's why people go up in flames because they weren't paying attention or weren't listening. And. You. Know one of the other things you've got to be if you if you and I know your way around this place is you can't be out there talking to a lot of people. You've got to keep your mouth shut and listen and have people have trust in you. That they'll tell you things that they won't tell anybody else. Did you manage to say something you lose that trust because it's over so. So it's a. You know. I've have had lots of freedom and flexibility probably more so than most traditional faculty member because I've been out I a lot of it. Some respect some people say I'm more of an extension job than I did a. Traditional faculty job here. But it's the kind of thing that Joffrey was very inclusive with in terms of trying to develop communicator relationships put together the advanced partnership program that came out of a vision 2020 project that college culture got with the Kellogg Foundation working with community colleges. So. They get. Involved in all that stuff as well so. So it's a combination of things all of the things I mean I was working with Jerry Klein at least 20 20 project is associate dean of agriculture. So it just. Guys or an engineer with social needs. Chris I know you end up playing basketball with much. That time basketball association. So that's how you build relationships there and the. Cycle of activities big cycles and so. So you see other people other places and stuff some. I think a big big big big 12 tournament CEO again. So my connections were at the scene as well. So it says. But let's say I tell you I know everybody is retiring now and very few people get promoted. So it's kind of a changing of the guard. But. You know. It's a. I've been very fortunate I'd say. Through right things I've you know obviously still work didn't work with the post office I mean coach relationship group relations council. So you're here working with them as well as trying to do a lot of those efforts together. Another one. Another one that's been very helpful to me is I've been a faculty marshal first for 23 years. A faculty marshal for 21. Oh OK. All right. And I was the lead I was the lead marshal for the last 10 years. So it's. So you know obviously you a break with brings our students through with the BBC program master's program in particular PSC students present. You know obviously the major professors present them and so. You get to all those folks that way. So it's so it isn't just this isn't just a faculty job. And he told me before we started the interview that you. Have many masters and Dean students had you write it through their programs several hundred. Right. So. It's pretty impressive but just as it's been it's been fun. I've enjoyed it and still do. So we see what you can do now. What you gonna do now. Well we have lots of interests so it's. But that affect my wife and I were talking about this because always in the fall we start up on these leadership programs. Click on the link and all this stuff and you see the first fault I got is tied to first class of the B.C. courts is coming in so. I won't have those this year because I was like OK so. You have to figure out something else to fill out something else too. So we're trying to figure that out. So. OK. Well I don't have any more questions Is there anything else you wanna know title about Celsius autistic rubbing or something I might remind you of something. No that's been a good place and a good place for me here. I've enjoyed it and so it's an element you know I don't think I say that is I always tell people in my classes individuals are far more loyal to institutions and institutions are individuals. And I'd have to say overall I would say I mean obviously we all go through some rough spots of certain points of time you know when I thought I want to be a dick I thought I want to be anything but this thing never happened to me. I didn't get it but you don't know that at the time you don't know that it's time. And so it's so you know I said everybody I ice and I tell all these guys when I say men and women in leadership roles here it takes a punch at you you make some decisions that people are to be happy with you. Yeah. There are those out there who will say well. You did this. But overall I've had a good run. And that's it's taken over all the instruction in real life. Against things that happens. Okay. Very good. Thank you. Nice to meet you. Okay. All right. So there's a little bit more. Well one thing I did I was also present 25 35 your club. OK. And as part of that we decided to do some pictures and all know taking pictures of people in there and they first started I was dating 25 years later Thirty years later. And anyway so we are all here going through and looking for pictures. And the curator Becky Becky. Yeah. So I was like you would bring on this was tiny it would work with me and bring out all these files. So I would always look through the Student Services files education files or to get there and Jane would go through the case files. Of course was thankfully because I a lot of those people as I was going through this one set of student figures pictures and I said Yeah that's me who's in it. It was in a hospital bed at the student hospital as an undergrad Becky Becky also was up here last year. I went out to her and because I put all those things in my head I did a little slideshow for my retirement thing. And there was a tradition at one point in time that you would throw the seniors in the fountain. And then of course obviously you know with some that ultimately they get to like Laverne which turn out to be bad. You know what we were doing funds that day. So we had this guy who was we call him the old man who was a senior when we when we came into dad's house. That's not surprising at all. There were I think it was a floor of 40 some. And there were 20 freshmen. That tells you what what it was like. And we had a real strong presence that day. So this but this guy was our president and he's from markets. He was played in the bay and he still comes in doesn't bad thing. So we say we're going to game. Of course he was never wrong. Isn't that what we're doing. So finally one night we finally carry him over. To him on the phone. And I tried to jump a Bush. They were just kind of evergreen bushes there. Of course we were all racing out and I jumped in front of him broke my leg. So that's when I went to the hospital and so I was over at the hospital and doctor Where was the football team doctor at that point in time and also that MacFarlane. Was an expert in redoing bone. And so he came out Gail profit was the director of the Center at the time. And so you said Well I think you'll be all right Larry. We're going to have to figure out what do it all here. So they came and said well maybe a little promo and soon hospital said would you mind having your picture taken. So that's it. That's my story. So here we go. All right. Well thank you for all that. You bet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1109/collection_resources/29159/file/96789#t=0.0,4320.2351"}]}]}]}