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And we're glad that you could all be here tonight. We're privileged to have a speaker who has actually been here a couple days as part of a conference, a network conference, the first national conference of that grouping that is actually held here in this auditorium this weekend. The literature is still up there in the back I think people can approve that right afterwards looking at new literature from the conference. Even got some information on the board there about the workshop and that could be... but tonight's lecture will be by a distinguished person who I've wanted to have come to aim and we were able to raise that a lecture on ecology, social ecology. And he is probably the foremost expert on that. And even the author of numerous books including Remaking Society and the Ecology of Freedom. From Burlington, Vermont and associated with the Institute for Social Ecology in Burlington, Vermont which anybody having an esteemed look at the brochure can receive a brochure about the summer institute. With that I'd like to introduce our speaker for the night and he'll tell you how you're going to go about this. Let's make it kind of informal. The speaker for the night is Murray Bookchin. All right.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, thank you very much. Let me ask the question please. How many people have ever read of Substance? How many people have actually read the Ecology of Freedom? Give me a show of hands if you haven't. If you have read, yeah, the majority of you . Okay, thank you. So what I'd like do then I think is to open a discussion more of a discussion than a lecture if possible but the Ecology of Freedom and afterwards see if we can develop some kind of discussion amongst ourselves this process. Okay? Is that I've been involved in the ecology involved with the problems of ecological judgment all the time. Just like since 1952 the needs is . Various positions, every few years a new issue would arise that I never anticipated. For example, I wrote a book while in 1962, around 1962. Surveying the whole field to look for your housings. Further stressors, increasing cancer rates We are all surviving with in 1962, talked about 600 new chemicals they found in the environment. They somehow years. I talked about the dangers of new ways The use, for example, of BES in chickens, and the use of hormones in cattle. The amount of liquid nitrogen that was being sweeped outside with adrenaline is all from, that is being used on farms and the possible effect this could have on the groundwater and possible dangers of nitrogen nitrogen cycle. That whole vast circle About three years later I wrote a pamphlet with the possibility that carbon dioxide, the ratio of carbon dioxide to oxygen in the atmosphere. Two, three, or four hundred years from now changes, we call that the greenhouse effect. Now I thought I was , I thought I was really going crazy. 600 new chemicals going into the environment basically untested or could not be tested until two generations ago. What could the impact be, for example, on a fetus? cancers . Ten, twenty, thirty years of exposure. Now these things really shocked me and at that point I remember too. About six months later came out and I went . Everything that I worked with at that time was conservative, it was almost ridiculous. In fact it was predictions that I made for hundreds of years from that on effects that are being felt today. First, we're not calling 600 We're calling 30,000. In every conceivable way DBT now using pesticide, using cleaning fluids, using industrial products as well as consumer products. And now it's so worldwide that they have to dig in to glacial ice in the arctic in order to find chlorinated hydrocarbon free samples because as far as I thought up there in the most remote reaches of the planet earth many of these toxicants are below the . There is no place unless you really go literally into paleontology and start digging in to the ice caps and going down to ice that was formed thousands of years ago or hundred of years ago but today everywhere we find the chlorinated hydrocarbons . We didn't know that PCBs we are widely in 1952 and in fact in 1962. biphenols, we didn't know what they were. They're all over the place. The lead has become a problem of mass proportions. There is far more lead in his or her body than is probably in any real sense of the word quite safe. Assuming that any amount of . We find today that we are not only poisoning the planet, polluting it, but we what we are also doing is simplifying it and this is one of the most informed points I've thought . We're simplifying. What we're doing basically is we're correcting very complicated ecological systems that are ecosystems. That have been millions of years of evolution, become more and more complex as life crept out of the oceans I presume, and gradually colonized the middle of the world by and large, because you'll see soil plant life and producing a great variety of species. However much many have become extinct, are becoming extinct over time. Still, a fabulous number of varieties and species that are essential to modern view, for maintaining the balance of the planet. Diversity can be so important in maintaining that balance. And we are steadily reducing all of this again to the earlier epox in which the world found itself millions and even billions of years ago. We're turning soil into sand. Soil has been thousands of years in the making and essentially we are producing a landscape virtually a sponge, an abnormal sponge. A fairly liquid, a fairly simple . We're ruining our oceans on an incredible scale. The biodeath experience that is occurring right now are a last stepping stone and an example, a dramatic example of what's going on to lesser degree but added up, with a far more significant degree than anything that occurred up in the Alaskan borders throughout most of our oceans. Our streams are turning into sewers. Lake Champlain where I live, which is perhaps the fifth largest lake in North America. It supplies us with our water is known to be very heavily polluted with all kinds of exotic chemicals some of which cannot be filtered out. There's just much to much a of a system and a technology for aeration and so on and so forth made a tertiary system of these walls does not match the exotic nature . Here in the United States one of our cities has got one of the highest cancer rates in the country and Vermont with comparatively no industry if you look at other states has an above average cancer rate. we suspect water pollution. So, enough of the problems been around for 60 million years. I refer to the rainforest, literally disappearing except for small patches that might be preserved as reserves. polluted significantly. And not only are we going back obviously as everyone knows, changing the ratio of carbon dioxide and in doing so incidentally I would like to discuss this. The ozone effect upon the in addition to the greenhouse effect in which a large area of the ozone layer has been virtually, has been opened up as serious anomalies of ozone ultraviolet radiation, excuse me, on our planet. Threatens not only to increase the incidence of serious skin cancers such as melanoma. And that's one of the most aggressive cancers around. But also threatens to reduce the reproductive activity of phytoplankton in the ocean which may be responsible for 80% of the oxygen that we find in our atmosphere today. this entire picture, one has to ask very basic questions. That's about the only idea of Margaret Thatcher conferences where she'd get together with groups talking about it. And I think we ask ourselves what are the basic causes of this? It's not enough to talk about how are we going to reduce certain effects? I have complete sympathy of people and I have admired movements of people who have tried, for one thing, to arrest the proliferation of nuclear reactors because it's widened the proliferation of nuclear bombs. As an activist, one of the largest anti nuclear alliances in the United States during that time. We've lost tens of thousands of people and gained national headlines because of attempts to destruct the building of a large nuclear reactor in . I have been involved locally as I told you. I was also a I should have said to the fact that I helped stop the building of a nuclear reactor, the world's biggest nuclear reactor, in 1960 from inside New York City. Not outside, inside, in Manhattan, or more precisely in Queens. Right across from the United Nations building. I have been involved in ethics to stop parlorism. In Vermont right now there . They bring in more traffic into the city . And so I implore all the efforts that are being made by various organizations, each one being and trying everywhere along the line to deal with the specific issue. That's important, right, it's . And in fact, as green, involved in activities in Northern Vermont. I was deeply concerned on questions of growth of our organization, running people for mayor of . Raised questions of growth which opens up a whole series of questions. Should we have a moratorium on growth, on what kinds of growth. In addition to that, who's going to decide what kind of growth would be the safe and would be the more powerful the federal government or what. would be grassroots type of organizations that decide the kind of growth we can have. So all of these problems which people are trying to deal with . Our problems that should be reflected everywhere along the way. alliances or anti nuclear groups. We need people who try to poisons in our food. And the exposure of farms to a tremendous array of chemical hazards that is far more dangerous frankly for the consumers of those products. because of my own efforts in agriculture and different forms of agriculture. All these things have to be mended. I agree. But let us help to save ourselves. The most we are doing is trying to break all the breaks on an accelerating machine that is going downward. And we have to make a very lofty decision. Admitted, we have to break it. We have to hold it back, we have to reduce its momentum. The speed of which it's going today at an ever accelerating rate. And our lives are very much expendable. And the lives particularly of younger people. I began to see people dying from cancer at the age of 30 or before. Diseases that years ago we would have called so called degenerative diseases at least with aging beyond 60 years. I began to see incidences of cerebral hemorrhages in people in their 20s. in the 1930s We did know if somebody died of a cerebral hemorrhage. If you had a cerebral hemorrhage like a stroke those things were probably visible . Having any of these conditions in their 20s very, very Korean War vet post mortem in their heart and on their vascular system so that an enormous percentage of them was a result of stress or having with the second world war. I can say that not everybody dropped dead of stress from my generation but these were young people that quite early in life who had or they showed vascular systems or had vascular systems of people you would normally expect in their 60s or in their 70s and this is when this enormous investigation of dying began to take place. So we do need all of the efforts we need all the organizations we need all of the inventors to try to slow up this insane machine that seems to be just rolling down you know as I said . But I'd like to make a distinction between environmental issues and if I may, ecological because there are much more deep seated problems that are at work here than the fact that there may be greed involved when literally there is. And greed has been around for a long time. It's not peculiar to American society in Soviet society. It exists not only in the United States and on Wall Street as it does in the Kremlin. So that is not the only thing that we have to be concerned with. The point is that the rate at which all this is occurring the vastness of its locations that we have to question the way in which we relate to the natural world. of the natural world. There is something wrong. That underpins all these effects that we're trying to find today if we are to find them at all. rolling down hill to what seems to be an inevitable crash. complete planet breakdown of this whole planet. very complex life forms and ecological problem not only the environmental problem. I would like to ask a basic question. When we get the notion that we can dominate nature which is so fundamental to modern thinking here. And this modern thinking is not only a form of that exists . That is humanities and is the great hope of human freedom at the most the natural world. That motion, a motion by the way that we emphasis, it's not a reality, we can't dominate nature. That's impossible. It's all around us. It's like asking us to lift ourselves up by our own bootstraps. Everything is makeshift including about this whole issue. But the notion of dominating nature where did that come from? And here I think the problem is social. I don't think its a question of technology. Because that notion has been around for quite a while. One example is in biblical literature not only in traditional belief systems but in modern ones. One of the most important concepts of Marx was nature in order to emancipate . But the valuation of nature is a precondition for emancipating people from natural war and the compelling necessity that nature imposed on us. And that has cause liberal thinking as well and conservative thinking the natural world and my point is and that's why social ecology is that we have to look at the society itself to see where this notion appears. It is not a notion that becomes widespread, so called primitive . However harmoniously or inharmoniously they live with the natural world and they sometimes live a sharp contradiction . Some beautiful examples from the ecologies, from the literature, from the ecological reports of so called but they've also been known to live in disharmony with them. However they did not have the notion and they did not see it as a that nature could be done, that's it. The idea about that notion I began to find when I had to explore societies that were fairly developed and highly institutionalized private societies in which human beings are made The idea of dominating nature in other words is no closer associated with the emergence of the domination of humans by and one can began to see this if one wants to try to create some type of meaningful sequence of the past times and the attempts early on of elderly people who felt very insecure in tribal societies who were savage but and began with savage systems of domination over younger people. Now I'm an old person, I stand in shock and in defense of the rights of the elderly. but going back in time and of course we are meant to see evidence of the insecure elderly who's house began to fail in a demanding society system of domination so it's a kind of purest democracy of domination so to speak. The situation begins to get very sinister however when you begin to see increasingly the male sphere of social power about hunting and hunting grounds. Wars that began to emerge for many different reasons that we can explore further. We began to see also the male into the female domestic sphere which was very strategic in early societies because societies is the woman's part so to speak, it is responsibilities of raising children and taking care of the food supply 80% of the bio mass that constitutes the food consists of tough vegetable stuff plant foods. they ate protein, animal protein the most concentrated forms of protein animal protein. And you get to see this male system gradually generation, that by sheer specific weight, it begins to outweigh the position of the sphere. And we have evidence of man begin to appear. This comes more of societies begin to emerge. must lead to war, quite to the contrary. societies have become extraordinarily specific, more oriented but it is not very difficult to go from hunting animals to hunting food and that is the first step towards and a lot of considerations that increase the possibility of how that transition will take place. And we begin to see systems of hierarchy emerging and systems of command and obedience based on domination. Once the a mark of society and whether that is a hot issue of value or not recognized that they're oppressive these centered not so much around status but really around the exculpation of labor. So that we begin to see first of all a landscape of hierarchy, social relationships began to emerge. And then out of that we began to see mass societies based on who owns what and who works for who beginning to emerge and that also encompasses that whole hierarchal fall. And bit by bit moves into the circle of high civilizations of the ancient worlds such as ancient Egypt, such as the Mediterranean civilizations, Mesopotamia, and yes, the slavers of Greece. What we see emerge is a patriarchy in many of these societies where the eldest man is the commanding figure of both the young men and the young women and unable to leave them alone. A patriarchy, by the way, is not simply the domination of women. In the true sense of the word and in the old biblical sense of the word it is the domination by the oldest male often an association with the oldest female deciding what and when people can do with their families but they are male often. And then if you get to see the society we are dominated people and a hierarchy being an actual order of things but we can project out of the beasts. this and that sensibilities we look at the world Everything is hierarchal. society thinking it comes projected out if the natural world see hierarchy everywhere. We see that we are supposed to be deemed superior we raise our own kings next to them and we begin to form all these visions. Of an actual order based on domination and structured around . So finally we get to really crack this whole essentially a global phenomenon. Tigris and Euphrates or on the hills of ancient Greece of ancient Rome system which led to the development of hierarchical structures on a very elaborate scale What finally begins to crack this up wide open literally is the emergence of a economy. Most of the other economies are not what gives you in the so called social status by such as economy in the ancient is your willingness to give. The greatest human attribute calling folks in anthropology the big man of our possessions. This is a very extreme form ceremonies of the northwest Indies. Where this burial competition under the influence of European competitive values, invariable competition not to accumulate but to dissipate. You shame your opponent in such a ceremony by giving away your other knee cap. And he therefore becomes very shamed and in some cases . One of the major features therefore of the free market economies or that is actually practiced and which has engrained itself as a value in the Western push . The second very important aspect of all free market societies is their cooperation not competition as the main source of progress and that too over and over again I look to the past admittedly very personal attempts to gain status and the all important thing was taking the big half status, it was generous. And the most important thing among the early civilizations even the Greek city states themselves was that cooperation. It's a real source of progress by people working together. you can have progress. So that even though you have hierarchy and even though you have domination and even though you have classes and even though you have this extra unique phenomenon called the state which is really the professional monopoly of violence on the part of military and on the part of bureaucrats and on the part of Marx and the like over the rest of the population. When we have the point is that cooperation remains criteria for progress. In fact I've just recently been reading revolution and I'm reminded this is the and I'm reminded to which a monarchy of that kind and an act of legislation to prevent landlords from picking off tenants the entire community into their own private estates for the purposes . I'm reminded of the attempts on the far reaches of society to discourage certain technologies which would make thousands of years ago but since large crowds technologies alone to displace labor. If only there was stability as a condition of society. For whatever reason however, and particularly in England, a system that has been around for maybe to the rest of this basic domestic society and it's basically collaborative society and I don't want to make it seem more than it is, I've had a lot of bad teaching. But still the idea that these ideas in particular that this kind of world was really the exemplar of progress see the emergence and its threading through much of Western Europe and the United States, a very opposite series of conceptions it's working away and eating away this position in society that adds strife and a highly new idea of what constitutes . The first thing that was said and what we need is healthy competition. 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Serious. It becomes a system that controls the very people who are ignorant of these things. You no choice. You begin to find yourself in a situation under these circumstances where if you don't grow you're not going to succeed. This is a problem that farms are facing everywhere. In Vermont, for example, our dairy farmers have been wiped out by the thousands. That's just in the 20 years I've been living there. Thousands of them have disappeared. In one of our counties over in Maine there are account the receipt in Vermont, Washington county, basically a mounting ruin in a significantly agricultural county the number of farmers has been reduced by 10,000 to 5,000 and will probably be down to 3,000. And this is only over a span of 15 years. And I can remember when America where we had everything that grows. You know you hear of the Grapes of Wrath, when the dirt farmer was 70. When I could cross the Hudson River and go into New Jersey counties, almost within walking distance of where I live, and I could buy fresh products from farms that were still using horses. Not only tractors. The tractor was still a wealth of luxury in the 1930's. So, we have major countless changes today. But more important than anything else it's the fact that without any startupship from a cooperative society even if only from within the community itself. Very much the communities we grew up in. So, a compactive society in which huge nation's stakes at war with each other and which grow or buy becomes constantly a way of life but literally a way of survival. And it's not for the . It's not simply that Exxon is greedy. And that's their prices that rise and fall is an important factor, it's that Exxon is in competition and liked to grow fast during itself. I don't know. Although I do know they form unless it passes for Opec unless it's a good deal of what constitutes British American royal companies. And they're going to blame it on the Arabs. still when I'm hearing that it is in fact an empowering and not only that empowering but that law of life, the whole definition of progress. It's not only prevalent but if it is continued, it must stamp out in time. If must recycle everything that is organic into being chemical. It has to cut tropical forests and permanently reduce them. If only through advertising and often creates large agribusinesses cattle ranches. And a man in Brazil was recently murdered in part to defend some of the rain forest in behalf of Indian peoples who are rubber tappers essentially left the forest virtually untouched by their operations. His name is Chico Mendes and he's one of the great heroes of the Brazilian . So, when I'm talking get up is that this enormous shift often grows over our society has threatened the very existence of our planet because by growing we continually have to recycle organic things. We make forests, we make over little things be they prairie land, be they all kinds of oceans, lakes, rivers, we have to recycle them into something that's in one way or another degrading. And as more and more in this category it degrades. And there is probably a pristine lotus left in the world today. And we must begin the proper turns in that market economy. We have to ask ourselves if it's possible to live by maxim of grow or die? As a system, not only as a normality but as a system that operates on it's own, out of control, out of control means we watch our pollution. Whether it will be possible for us to work with that system and still hope to rescue our community. And this is what I mean by going from environmentalism to ecologists. From allowing private stock of highways but asking ourselves, how are we going to deal with growth from this? It will grow with our economy. I would like to deal with continual expansion at a time when it becomes increasingly evident that we are denaturing the whole planet and pushing back the whole thrust of animal and plant that are rich and been here for billions of years. Leaving behind more and more areas that look like a movie set. When life just began to appear on this time. Changing our very atmosphere. Changing our whole dramatic structure. And we are still no more along with this than ever. And I recall of saying what it is and it exists no less in the Soviet Union or in China than in the United States or in Canada or in Western Europe. That whole bad thing, I hate to put it to you bluntly, it's not simply industrials that got it. It's very easy to blame technology for everything. And no doubt, technology magnifies it, obviously. I mean, if you have an electric saw, you're going to be able to cut down a forest more rapidly than you will with an ordinary handsaw. Or with axes. I agree, but the point is that they have already removed the forest of England before modern machinery appeared hundreds of years ago. They're still using technologies that are basically neo-lithic like a pottery technique in order to make steel. And they have wildlife who wouldn't have found any place to live by the 16th century before even capitalism became a seventh phenomenon. And the forest where pushed back in Europe and drained and admittedly put soil into the lakes but at the same time we began to see systems of growth beginning to emerge irrespective of what technology existed. We have factories hundreds of years ago in England and even in France went from one cottage to another cottage ripping raw wool and spinners to make yarn and going from the spinners who make garments simple sewing machines using foot pedals and nothing else. Going to dyers, I mean weavers who used hand looms and going to dyers who used simple vats, practically the size of bathtubs in order to dye and some of them are a large market trying to undercut the more controlling economy created by the men doing the research, inspected grossly according to what people needed and who are making excessive profits. These people are called factors. And that's where our word factory comes from. What they did was take the spinning machines which was in use for thousands of years and they used the hand looms and the brought that together with the spinning machines and the backs with the bars and they brought that together and put them on one big shed and what do you have? A factory. And you got me to talk about technology how it developed forms of steam engines, all kinds of electronic mechanisms or anything like that. And the way they were beginning to deforest wood and the soil getting soiled and beginning to regrade the whole natural environment around you. So, while technology, of course, accelerates this process, the all important factor is that a new system of relationships have merged. That those who own the sewing machines had rented them out to cottage owners. And those who supply weavers with hand looms which were very expensive in that day. And those who supplied the necessary needed dye and other such dyes for the blacks that existed at that time to guide the rest of them. The all important things that system of relationship had begun to emerge irrespective of the technology we're talking about irrespective of the compilation we're talking about, that already began to descend the western world and finally the world as a whole into the spiral downward that's lead to the tremendous psychological processes. And that raises for us a very serious problem. The message of social ecology a book that I am going to write or that I did write and that I am still trying to develop, is that every ecological problem has a solution in society. If we try to separate society from the ecological problems we face today, we're going to live a deceptive world we just don't begin with what's right. We'll never get to the root of the problem. We blame human nature. We blame theologies and, of course, they can be blamed, truly, but they are, in fact, decisive. We'll blame population and that can be in some areas a problem. But that is not the decisive problem. We'll blame technology, we'll talk about industrial site, we'll talk about everything but the real problem. That we live in a lousy market economy. That everybody either used to a buyer or seller each of whom has to probably get the edge on someone else. We got cooperation has been replaced by competition as a way to life. Then it infects the crib. Not only the factory but it infects the household. Not only Wall Street or John Ed financial institutions but it infects the schools. Not only John and Phil's, that is indeed the whole apparently. Well we have to examine very bluntly what we're going to do about this. And I don't want to raise it more as a problem then try to draw it out kicking for lots of solutions. I will admit, some of those that we have tried to deal with, for example, in our own activities is weeds. Especially the more recent election of the month. Where we were actively engaged and made loosely the greens of the month. And that is, first of all, we have to begin to try to work out a moral economy. This can be translated into a very simple demand that many people can, in our community at least, and not of our, you know, scholars and social peer or anything like that. Neither are really that informed about ecology or environmentalism and that is we have to talk about growth. And I don't mean the growth of populations I'm talking of the growth of industries, of the growth of agribusinesses, of the growth of giant installations today that consume in one day what it might have taken years ago to consume in one year. That's the same exact process as that. And we've got to stop blaming consumers. I mean how can I go into a black ghetto in many American cities and say, thank you folks, get out of the car if they didn't have one. That's your opportunity to say. I mean what's left of life in some of these cases for many people. Why did you give up good cigar black? Why don't we face the reality today that the real problem lies not on the part of those who simply consume the oil but those that fill our giant tankers so big that it takes 20 miles to stop them. And that there was once a huge debate over the size of these tankers exactly because the kind of raw spillage that we've had in the Valdez out in the west a few weeks ago was something that environmentalists and ecologists feared for years. And said you can't build oil tankers that large. And you're inviting disaster. Sooner or later something reckless is going to happen. Virtually destroying vast areas of the Alaskan coast. So we have to raise the question, first of all, how do we do this in our election board? If we call for a moratorium and let's have a discussion about what kind of growth if any growth we want. And this is a direct challenge to an economy that is based on global trust. Because the operation will work and the relationship is grow or die. And when you start saying we want the moratorium on growth you're talking about the very heart of this market economy. You're touching it's very pulse. You're being here is very apparent because it doesn't grow and it doesn't pay well and it will lead to the death of corporations. And the next question I begin to see arise is a typical one. If you do want growth, what kind of growth? You want the growth of the gatling gun plan or the kind where you have the simple machine gun plan? Have the socialist the gatling gun plan where we have to pay per piece except for the metal. And more recently by the way, they talk about using access in the gatling gun to help a piece a moral property where left hand people second in line for the very war pattern personnel and the more gatling guns then no longer peace will be there. Just like the election. But my mind went back to the damn basis we exist. What kind of corporate are we going to have? That's raises profound questions that all Americans and I believe, all people in the so-called industrialized world, be it east or west, are forced to deal with. And then if you decide on controlling growth in what way are you going to do it? Is it going to be a federal government that's going to do it? Is it going to be the state that's going to do it? Is it the municipality that's going to do it? a growth would be an effemination of municipalities. Notice how one question leads to another. And then so finally, what kind of politics are we going to develop? Is it going to the old, broken down politics and then go home and watch the results on TV if you can stay up late enough? And give up some good shows in the bar perhaps. A little soccer, maybe. Need a picture of Wall Street? I don't know. What kind of politics do they want to have? Is this going to be a politics like the politics of a movement in which people are continually engaged in a political activity of trying to stop these nuclear power plants roles, et cetera, et cetera. Keep manage these poisons in the back yard or try to eliminate them completely? Is it going to an educational politics or just a power politics? The fans say the caucus or the Bush elect? The facts about a politics is that it's got to have it's own scandal. That with more than half the American population doesn't even bother to vote. So, we have to discussed the question of politics. And we have to discuss the question of a new movement unless we want to put blinders over our eyes or stick our head in the sand, we're being made to do or replace it with greenhouse effect and being a fertilizer or anything else that the nature the organic content of the soil. Stick our head in the sand and say, well, that will be banned. I got my VCR, my back yard's not in immediate danger. I've going to live out X numbers of life expectancy years and let the next generation go to hell. Because that is a fact the way in which many people knowingly or unknowingly are dealing with he question of formally developing a new politics and developing a new kind of movement. And that movement if I use a very public discussion is called green. And I tried them all over my lifetime. I've been in the labor movement and in various movements around the labor movement in the 1930's and 40's and I've seen them all go downhill. I've seen what's happened in the Soviet Union, the Purge trials, massacres. And in the name of higher ideals how Communism or Socialism literally came up with one of the nation state in no less than three years a lot of nations say. I seen our own ideals of democracy turn more and more into old malarkey. As a result of this kind of compromise, ever greater, evermore lesser evils of one lesser evil to another lesser evil, to another lesser evil until were wondering what's worth saving. And so, this is what I submit and I could hardly go further without signing off about we care and awesome capitalizing. So I'll be very simple. This is the basic element, these are the basic elements that any social economy that's why the word social was put in front of economy. Every analyzing problem is a social problem and second and very significantly, why we call ourselves weeds in the sense that we feel that we must find an alternative for this market economy. We must begin to develop alternatives through aggressive technology. Technologies that would harmonize our relationship with nature not pit us against the natural world. And we must develop a new sensibility with new kinds of communities. These are the issues that are really on the agenda of our present and our forthcoming year. The 21st century minimally have already 1980's and 90's must face the question not only of stopping the nuclear reactors and the roles and the shopping malls alike that must raise the basic educational question of where we go in a world that must tear down the planet with the destruction around grow or die. Expand or survive. Recycle the organic growth into an evermore until we will be incapable of surviving on this planet. These are real. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Now we'll open it up to some questions and discussion and we'll ask anyone wants to have feedback. Anybody who needs to go . Good discussion with good issues so we're going to start out.\r\n\r\n- I'll be honest with you, considering the global economy obviously being the main focus is. But it's really sad when it falls into the hands of some of those technical guys and some of those profiteers, you know, and my feeling is indeed that we have to stop a lot of that technology now. Whether or not they're going to be picked up in another society, it's just wrong. In our society it's chemically a-moral not even immoral, it's a-moral. In other words it was our patterns of scientific objectives objectivity produced the very same abuse sweeping on us. You know the customer be bad or consumer be bad. I watch the behavior of Exxon on TV, it's absolutely nauseating. Everything infuriated me. I'm ready to go into the water now Exxon you can't. That's a slap. through personal growth. I don't know who possibly invented the much less work around the very thought, the very core of life itself. Which is like something they don't know a thing about but they can learn. Rise at the very core of what matters here. So we're working with the most fundamental processes of the universe and I don't believe these lunatics or these self-serving predatory . It's funny, you know everybody thinks they're walking around with time to spare and they're wrong. As a matter of fact, I just wanted to mention, and they used to believe unfortunately they don't even believe that they used to believe they're having direct action for you know, the disruption of forest, pollution of waterways, the under return of wildlife and everything. And I really admire and I tracked their moves. They're coming out with a very vicious on population and integration. Basically racist in some respects. And immediately everybody in that media strip said, I attacked her first, I never. I think that first they're trying in the most energized way he knows how and I would often join in actions like that to prevent the destruction of forests and wildlife and everything else. My quarrel has been with people who are leaders of earth first like Maynon Zack, David Form, Jim Lee and others like them who have come out and bragged that we should let people, David Forum people have come out and bragged that we should let Ethiopian children starve because nature must take it's course. And that is what got me upset. And another thing that upsets me which is very, very complex I can't go into it now is the idea that human beings, that wilderness is a great reality than anything that we knew in the world. Let me put it in like, literally this is a symbol and that's called bio-simplicity. That we are merely like ants, just members of the animal world and by tons of intrinsic worth neither human beings nor ants are any different. Well, that ridiculous, that's absurd. It's a very sad view of nature and also an afterthought. Nature is as fine as you and here I am all alone day or whoever you like Kit Carson or whatever you're preferred deal would be in the wilderness. Kit Carson movies and here I am out there alone with nature, communing with nature. Well, that is partly true but a good bit of it is homage. Nature is inevitably shared with life. It is not simply a beautiful view. Nature includes all of life and it includes human life. And we belong in nature just as much as grizzly bears or coyotes. They're used for fur or wolves, you know we used them for fur and cattles and somehow I don't seem to like the cockroach. And I don't have to put on, I don't know, why not give due homage to sea otters? And the type of democracy that's what pass on a good economy. And we've not because we seem intended not because Prometheus came from on high and gave us fire but out sheer evolution have been organized to enter human nature. Once you start thinking about nature as evolution and not as beautiful thing to live on then you ask yourself, why shouldn't I be spliced in nature? And it's not exactly the same place . They're not sitting around discussing what's happening to the forest or anything like that. We are, when go around and watch . That often we get near with animals in a vicious way and still hope that we as human beings care about them. But when it comes to animal rights, animals have not signed a social contract. The rights they have are the rights we, as sensitive parents, with consciousness, with language, with conceptual thoughts, with institutions, with a whole tradition, for better or worse have said animals have. You see what I'm saying? So, I believe with this social ecology is necessary. Yes, so what does that mean? We first have to work out cooperation with each other. We'll never be able to cooperate with the natural world until we create cooperative communities where we develop the habits of mind, the institutions, the philosophy, whatever you want that forces cooperation between people. That's the first step it has to be. Then afterward we get to look at evolution and ask, well, now how do we cooperate with nature? By being products of nature, how do we even help the rest of the modern new world? But when we talk of nature, we are not only talking about the modern new world, we're not only talking of grizzly bears and wolves, we not only talking of lettuce farms or spruce trees or whatever you like. We're also talking of human beings. We also happen to be mammals. We also happen to be vertebrates. We also happen to be primates. And we're a very unique kind of primate. We're organized by natural evolution to change the environment. The real question is, will we have a society that will change the environment in a way that not only benefits us but benefits the non-humans we are losing now. That's the real issue. It's not a question of saying, let's sock through the meaning of nature or something or let's go back to the to use slogans we used first which is ridiculous. We can't even go back to the meaning of , let's face it. The real question is, how do we talk the sciences? How we going to cooperate with each other? And then finally, how are we as father of nature, thinking nature, and I don't mean that I don't mean to say that animals don't think or fear like people, what I am saying is that we have a voice. A sophisticated system of conceptual thought and language. So, how are we going to interact in such a way that the rest of the nature world of which we are part and from which we have evolved, to remain in nature, such that we force the animal evolution and plant evolution such that we benefit from the non-human living world. And this is at the heart of the whole indication between social ecology and this is the paper that needs to record the ecology that's deep. Which raises the questions of what's deeper than deep. Which raises the bigger question of which is the deepest of all the deeper and deeper. And socially that we trust to use a language that we surmise is a radical measure examining how deep it is or how big it is or how tall it is or like that. That's the best answer I can give you in this amount of time. That's a complex political problem. I think socialize . I'm not a specialist in the rainbow coalition. I have my own impressions about Jesse Jackson back in the 60's when I was in the civil right movement but I do not have a very high opinion. In fact, many of us did not have a very high opinion. The suaveness that began to whirl around him, around that period was now to develop such a view about his conditions, his opportunism . And rainbow coalition created a very monolithic organization he at once was actually committed. Okay, I was the one that wanted to discuss the the coalition and was invited to say what they want to say. I would say hello to the green that grows on the ground. They appeal to a very old tradition in the United States or back in colonial times and it's where it's safe. And the meaning of Made in America did this as well. And now it's direct democracy where ever possible. In my opinion, depending upon how we structure ourselves. I don't know if the rainbow coalition with their authority figure out there and in anyway at least organizationally be similar to the greens and have roots in the greens. And I say that group is radical left the rainbow coalition . Does not raise the challenging questions of freedom, it raised questions around justice. But there's something more than justice, and that's freedom and that's why titled my book, the Ecology of Freedom. And I'd love to be able to open that and get it prepared but time doesn't permit me. Can't bother me about that, I haven't said I'm against love in my life. But I'm saying about grow or die means making matchsticks if you're turning out newspapers I believe there will be forms of growth and at the center of it also becomes a . I told you from my view right, and exercises, questions of growth depends upon who raises them. Raises up into democracy, there's growth. Growth's always a discussion not so much as the opposition of growth. When I talk of grow or die I mean my respect. It doesn't make any difference what it produce. It can be the most horrifying pesticide, the most cancer-causing biocide or herbicide giving off stuff, hypodermic needle. to go to jail for committing homicide even though they know it's designed it bad, et cetera, et cetera, and on and on. There will be growth I believe, in modern society but that growth will be gone. Problems will be made to last generations. Cars will be made where they are necessary and used rationally. That do not fall apart and have built in them. We will make a vast number of things admittedly we're not going to go back to the mid evil days. We will use our technology as rationally as possible. And we will try to use technology that brings a simple harmony to nature. Using solar technology, wind technologies, various types of heat pumps and other such technologies. We will try to grow quality food and not just simple emphasize square potatoes that are obviously and knowingly lacking in vitamin C. And not because they are useful for the agrologist and can be packaged with minimum bruises. It's known that their quality is lower. So, everywhere along the way it emphasizes one, quality. Not symmetry. We will emphasize everywhere along the way. Lasting things, not a throw-away economy. We will emphasize everywhere along the way, yes, growth, but growth that is meant to benefit not only human beings but the natural world. We can't improve upon nature. Without it, , you know, we really can. We can bring the Incas brought soil off the barren mountain sides covered in mineral maybe rock from 1400 feet high. A bit of back-breaking labor at that time but the point is you can extend the realm of life with the technologies we have if we use them ecologically, if we use them rationally and we pick not only a few needs which I think is crucial but also needs of other life forms. But it gets kind of silly when you start saying when one starts saying, let's go back into the process. That's the surest way of disenchanting anyone in the ecology movement. You're never going to get the safety on the back again. Not only that, rhinoceros again, it's silly. Not only that, it's alienating and it's demanding. Who want to go back to the process, I don't. I would like it to last more than say 30 years if I can with any measure of success that you've had the past few years. Okay, I don't want to go back in the process and I don't want to have to guard myself from saying . That's silly. So, Something I did in college, something about a problem. But there are different forms of rationality. All rationality is not mathematically rationality. It's not proposition or logic. It's not symbolical. It's not a rationality that most of us were accustomed to balance a checkbook and you decide to do a glitch. I'm literally occupied with these kinds of things. Is it worth it, was it designed? And there are other forms of rationale. And they're automatic. They don't use the machine as a model, they use the plant as a model. And they serve as how things develop organically from within their own internal forces. A seed, or an ape, or a shoe . This organic rationality is something we ought to go back and study again. It does exist. We confuse far too much of our rationality with a mere cause effect in rationality. So the human body is nothing more than a computer. No more than a factory computer. And I wish to challenge the fact that that's the only type of rationale we have. But that is a whole discussion of itself, obviously. That I can give major figures to selections of rationale. Want to go back far enough that Aristotle was often confused in developing a form of logic and . And that is even a different rationality then. But when we go on we find society . A different kind of rationality based on . As long as we don't hate. And don't go beyond hate. But there are organic forms of rationality. Not simply engineered in some forms of rationality to beseech us to use our technology and this is not debated by this system. We talk about . This is the real issue around rationality Our social skills. Our health skills. Our section skills. It goes on and on and on. Everything is reduced to a skill. I give graphic skills, mathematical skills, and that tells you of a certain kind of a rationality . But there's a whole world of skills. And when we talk about skills, an analogy is not a machine, the analogy is the lifeline. The western philosophy and in some sense the eastern philosophy. They strive for modern reasoning along lines of processes were developed. I just want to make that defense. But reason as distinguished from rationalism. Or in my opinion quite often for the wrong reasons.\r\n\r\n- Any last questions?\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40525/file/112190#t=0.0,2606.75918"}]}]}]}