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Or do you have you had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=3506.06,3508.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1015","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some negative experience in that because it is a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=3508.38,3512.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1016","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"small community. 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I will tell","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5452.06,5456.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them about what my experience has been but if they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5456.11,5458.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ask me what is it like what is it what am I going","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5458.15,5461.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to experience. 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You've had this fabulous career and you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5500.0,5503.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have four children and you know what's the secret.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5503.63,5506.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How do you do this. She just married the right","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5506.72,5508.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5508.88,5509.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Easier said than done. They took her to try. But","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5511.6,5516.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we don't talk about that. But she's absolutely","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5516.49,5519.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right. I mean having a supportive spouse is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5519.29,5523.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"absolutely key. Do you think it's better to have a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5523.16,5526.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spouse in your profession because it does take","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5526.31,5528.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"away from someone you can talk to. He understands","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5528.74,5533.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when I told him I had to be taken apart. Sometimes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5533.72,5537.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it almost might be competition for jobs. I mean if","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5537.8,5541.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you're both in the same area and you both want the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5541.67,5543.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"same kind of job. I think that can be a problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5543.83,5545.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there have been I know of some cases of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5545.79,5548.72"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"couples getting divorced because they ended up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5549.17,5551.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with different opinions about whose career should","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5551.96,5553.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"take precedence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5553.82,5554.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I would try to tell young women talk about this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5556.44,5559.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before. The same way that you might talk about do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5559.79,5563.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you want to have children. We're going to follow","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5563.54,5566.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one religion or the other sort of issues that are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5566.57,5569.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1632","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"important when you're deciding if you're going to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5569.21,5571.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"make your lives together. Talk about that one too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5571.43,5573.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know that they do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5575.48,5576.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1635","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah exactly. I ended up not having to have that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5579.66,5582.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conversation because we we already agreed upon it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5582.08,5584.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before we had a discussion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5584.81,5586.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am very lucky. I've been very lucky. A lot of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5588.81,5591.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the way that you deal with that lock yourself who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5591.35,5595.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has taken advantage of oneself. Anything else that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5595.79,5599.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1641","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you want to share.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5599.57,5600.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1642","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean I have lots of other stories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5603.51,5604.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5606.78,5607.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"will stop here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934#t=5612.14,5612.86"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36701/annotation/1645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/701/original/MS0650_McNeil.vtt?1650911249","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/701/original/MS0650_McNeil.vtt?1650911249"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36702","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["MS0650_McNeil.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73094/file/158934/transcript/36702/annotation/1646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- Now I assume it's recording because I see that it's gone five seconds. So that's a good sign. This time you Anish Belcher. April 4th 2000 shoot. This is why we do both. This is their Saturday April 4th 2006 and this is an interview with Gordon field and we'd like to talk about where you were formed and where you grew up. Sure. I was born in Ann Arbor Michigan. My father was a professor of psychology at the University of Michigan. And I grew up there two older brothers and I went to public school through the through high school and it was a great place to grow up around it. I was born in 1956 so the 50s and 60s there was the usual university turbulence. It was exciting that it didn't have a lot of effect on my life. And I'm assuming you had a lot of support for your schoolwork and that was the expectation that you would go to. Sure absolutely. My parents were always thought that all of us were brilliant and they will go off and do wonderful things. In fact my father is a psychology professor wrote a number of works that are used as textbooks and textbooks and so forth. In psychology teaching our world. And he would put people family and friends into these books either by simply using their names for a case study or not using the names and putting people in. And he has one description of a family that he describes as the family of gifted children. And he was going to do that in advance. It was a surprise. No no I I really only found out about a year later. I didn't read it. Now what did your brothers end up doing. My oldest brother who was born in 1949. He's a computer repairman. He works in a company that maintains large mainframe systems mostly for publication and printing and so forth. He lives in Baltimore. And my other brother was born in 51 is he works at the Pentagon. He was a career military went through ROTC into defense intelligence and so he worked in defense intelligence in the Pentagon and I guess about a year and a half or two years ago now he retired from his military position and the next day went back to doing the same job as a civilian. His academic background. So history actually end up getting a master's degree in history as an army a computer repairman brother studies linguistics she learned relationship well actually it is completely unconnected. He learned about repairing computers when he was in the army. He was in the army. He was he dropped out of school after his first year in 1968. So he enlisted and chose the longest training school that the Army offered. And all the tests and so they offered him any training regime he wanted. He picked the one that would the longest period of his service and would not send him to Vietnam. Right. So he spent the time they trained him on how to repair a missile. And then they sent it to Germany and he was a telephone operator for a year and a half because the missiles didn't even do repair because we didn't actually use them. So when you think about since you had two older brothers did you feel competitive with them and you try to keep up or they're a lot older they're younger than five and a half years older or seven years older. So I was coming a long way behind. They were finished from high school when I was in junior high. So that really wasn't an issue. So your parents had you basically they were out of the House by the time that you had come home. Yes. But by the time I was an adolescent. Yes. Do you have any memories of great schools or things in science or that kind of teacher interest or a classroom teacher. I was always I always loved math. And so that was something that went all the way through grade school science. I have almost zero memory if there's so much I don't think there. What do you remember about that. It's just that it was it was always a lot of fun beautiful it was satisfying to get a right answer. It was the right answer and it just it was it was entertaining. In high school I had much much more focused interest in science would read a lot of popular science books books about things like Crystal symmetry that sort of thing. Ellington's looks really old fashioned popular science books that time. But I just found them fascinating. Anything by Martin Gardner that sort of thing a lot of science fiction as well. But I liked the idea of something that involves mathematics and involves things that you could pick up the touch which is what attracted me to solve state physics samples you could look at some of the pretty but there's some theoretical work. Do you have any memories of junior high or high school that kind of had a lot of great math teachers mostly great women including a fabulous calculus teacher in senior year in high school was was a wonderful wonderful Miss Cunningham she was Think from Alabama she was certainly in the south I think from Alabama and you're one of those since your school teacher who and she she she was a wonderful wonderful teacher prepared us very well always encouraged everybody and expanded our vocabulary as well as you bring up a paper with the correct answers on people that was very perspicacious of you and then we'd all go home and look it up. So she really challenged. Oh yeah ultimately I think that in our school system apparently it was very very good. Absolutely. And it was still at that time. I don't know if it is now through the high school junior high and high school was tracked both in English and that sort of thing and in mathematics. So it was an elite group and I was lucky that I had a lot of friends who were also academically focused. And so it was not weird to be in the calculus class. But the chemistry class and that sort of thing she never did take physics so it conflicted with orchestra. Well I took my first physics class as a sophomore and this opens up the first dichotomy to your interest in music. When did you first get interested. Oh as a small child I sang in the choir in elementary school and took up the violin in fifth grade and our school system hearing orchestra music dance I started to learn to play the violin just great. That was partly because my brother had played the violin and had not done well at it and dropped it. And so first of all we had a violin but also that that is my right which I don't know that I had a very good violin partly because I didn't have a lot of patients to practice. In fact at one point my high school orchestra conductor said to me. You're such a good musician why can't you play the flute how much time was warming for and how long did you play the violin. I played it from fifth grade through high school. And you were also singing I didn't think so much through junior high and high so I took it up again sort of late in high school and then also college and graduate school and ever since then I've never stopped. And that's an enormous sources of pleasure. The group of kids that I hung out with in high school we were all in the calculus class chemistry class. Some of this is a class we were all the orchestra and the choir on the band etc.. So it was definitely a group where there was no stigma for being smart and being academically ambitious and that sort of thing that I think was an enormous lesson that not only my parents of course enormously supported but that there were a lot of people who were just like me. You know that the social quarrelsome dating whom and who's wearing what was also the late 60s early 70s but things were a little more subdued. But being academically minded was cool with that group. So really there was no pressure really. I mean in a lot of ways this was an expectation. And of course you would do that. Why would you not want to do it. Why not. Well it also sometimes I think people get this if they don't have that support group I think they get distracted doing. They don't perceive learning as being something that would make them popular or not popular. But that's the expectation of the group of course will be personal. I'll get to our calculus. So you always knew you were going to college select where you went to college. My father went to Harvard and I was applying to various elite institutions and you and dad said well you're going to fly to you. And then the information that you was sending me included a lot of things like a call about some new haven was at the forefront of slum clearance. Know. That's not a big thing. Where else did you fly. Just out of curiosity. I don't even really remember. I remember that I applied to Yale because of that and certainly I applied to Michigan because that was you right there. Yeah I don't remember. So you ended up at Harvard. And what was your experience like there. It was an interesting time to be at Harvard because it was during the period of the non merger merger with Radcliffe and Harvard had not merged but it sort of merged. Now first things are quite different but this is still a time when these women were admitted to Radcliffe and then were admitted to Harvard. But we both graduated from Harvard Radcliffe to my diploma is signed by Derek Black and Latino Horner. So not much really happened more or less during my during my 40 years there. And by that time I was already a physics major. Well how did you. A little background. I guess let me go back to a little bit of what I was going to say before I went in that direction which which is it was a time I arrived there in 1973. That was the time really of the women's movement was very very big thing. And the numbers of women were very small compared to the numbers of men. And so it was kind of a polarizing time to be in that setting at that time. But there was a time she kind of felt the pressure to push toward extreme opinions rather than being sort of somewhere and building. And so that was that aspect of it was sort of looking back on it rather it was not something that really affected my life in a big way that I could see. But I went there. I started out with the intention of seeing a chemistry physics major which is what I actually graduated. It's a joint Major. It was a joint Major. They're not not a double major but there was a program where you basically took half your science classes and chemistry happened because like I said I had not had a physics class at that point but I have had a great experience in chemistry. Another wonderful woman teacher in our school system and so I knew I liked chemistry but I also knew that I liked mathematics and I wanted to use mathematics and I thought well I know I'd be able to use a lot more math and physics and I would write stories and why not do the joint degree. And so the first year I took math and organic chemistry 500 people in the class four hundred and ninety eight premed one history of science major and me. That was really great. I'm sure it wasn't quite that but I always heard organic is the weed out biology. It absolutely did. It was. I didn't enjoy organic because organic is a lot of memorizing reactions and memorizing heterosexually psychologist at the other. It was boring memorizing ranchers was not really what I wanted to do scientifically the first semester actually I got a C plus the first thing I ever got in my life first lesson only in fact and the second semester we started to get into orbitals and quantum mechanics and chemistry as much as you do with the again which is much but it wasn't memorizing and that well that was terrific. That was wonderful. And I feel like the light clicked on. Oh yeah. That's really what I want to do with that. How did you feel about that C plus because I'm assuming you've gotten good grades. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Well obviously it was very disappointing but it was clear to me why that happened. It was not a sense of I'm incapable of doing science. I just didn't memorize an interest you know. No I didn't. I just didn't interest me. Semester was much better. So then that's sort of the standard cycle of classes was you do those in the first year and the second year then you take a physics class and that was it. Okay this is it. This is what I want. So the only other chemistry class that I took choice within the classes was the physical chemistry class. Could you emphasize an area one over the other. Yeah. Basically you had to take. There were some minimal number of both and then the rest of them you chose from among the set and so I said I took one more chemistry course and then the rest of it was all physics and tell me what you like about the crucifix I know you like the combination of physical versus theoretical. Yeah I like the reality of it. So you're learning about actual real things in the real world you can see and touch and taste and I really like those faces because you're dealing with crystals and Crystal symmetry and the arrangement of atoms of space and what is that. How does that arrangement affect what it is that their properties. Why is it that when you arrange the carbon atoms this way you get graphite when you write carbon and that way you get diamonds and they're very different in ways that you can understand. And so it's it's a combination of the beauty of the mathematics and the physical reality of what you're doing that really appeals to me. I found self service actually as an undergraduate. After three years I had completed the undergraduate requirements because I'd come in with quite a lot of AP credits and so at that point I could have since I graduated but I really wasn't ready for college and so I was able to do a master's degree in the final year of course only not do any research and so I just spent a year taking one of the ones I should apply to policy physics class for a man named David Turnbull who has now long since retired but who was one of the grand old men of say he really wanted people who was in on the beginnings of the field of physics is really only dates from maybe the 30s and 40s and yet I think he was actually trained at the time. But anyway he's one of the great old old figures in the field affected but the Materials Research Society has an award named after him on earth and all of that and he was a wonderful wonderful man. Illinois suspenders and a belt. Just a wonderful man who was willing to to give me advice when I asked for it and talk to me about the science and I took this class from him. Not very many people said it was a small class that introduced me to say something okay. This is what I want to do. And then I took another class from face transformations and things like that which is something that he was a big important figure in the beauty of the subject really really captured me. So how did you finish in three years but what did you enjoy being students. I didn't know being a student but I've often said subsequently that the people who grew up through these physics professors are people who really like doing homework. Yeah I had a great time. Do you think that finding what you wanted to do not only are you good in it but it's something that you blog really helped you. Oh of course yeah. This is what I want to do now. Give me the opportunity to do it. They pay me on all these opportunities that we're open to the very many physics majors of course and so we get we do just about anything we wanted. There were no classes that were close to us or anything like that and you could get to know faculty pretty well because the classes are small and of course a lot of really brilliant people there. And so that was great for them. So I found all the kind of physics that I was interested in. So you finished your master's degree and then I went to the one gifted program and on the way to Fiji they give you another Masters something potential it. So I went to make it something that is quite large and so the entering graduate classes are large. My class was unusually large. I think what happened probably is that they had intended to have a class of around 40 or 45 and more people accepted their offer than I thought. This just happened just how good we were. My entering class in the fall of 1977 when I was sixty two students 60 men one married Chinese woman and me. Well actually that raises a question about Harvard back then I didn't ask what was the race of men two women were you in college it was sort of time in the physics department. There was me and Laura Galan who became a Rhodes Scholar digital editor for Nature. Never did that change your experience do you think. Well I mean it was an introduction to what my professional life was gonna be like but we haven't gotten any different because even though there are now more women in physics but scattered everywhere and also of course my cohort got many more women right. So yes there are more women students than when I was a student but I'm not a student there aren't more women senior women in civics faculties than there are women who were students when I was a student. So you move with your cohort. So in that sense it has not gotten any easier. It's always been that way but it never bothered you really. I mean again this was a time when I was a student at the time of the women's movement and you know women could do anything that men can. And I was in high school I built sets for the theater. There are no barriers or anything. So it's not really I'm actually aware of as I said it was a time when you had to have a polarized opinion not sitting in the middle wasn't really there but on the other hand I was. Of course I was taking some other classes with ratios are a little different. But I was also singing in local music which of course had more women than men in all the players that are not all male. Do you think that gave a nice balance to your life continue. It was great. That was a whole other different group of friends all interested in something that I was also interested in. You know we got jittery Earth concerts all over the place and it was great. So that was let me make my undergraduate years better than they would have been on that one. But then you went to Illinois 60 male teacher males one very tiny female but did you expect. Oh sure yeah I guess it started out that way and it never got any different. Who is your major professor David laughter wonderful wonderful man now retired in a year and a half ago what were your years like it. They were great. I had a wonderful time. I really like the work I was doing when I got on very well. We always joke because he was in grandfather training and he'd had lots of female students and certainly supported one of his female students to be just as successful as you anticipated that we would. He was very good about giving guidance so I needed it getting out of the way when we didn't do this. He was not a micromanager at all. I think he may have seen in me someone who was like him in some way. Things what similarities. Well both for a strong interest in music. Dave didn't say it wasn't. He didn't play or sing anything but he was a concert going. After he retired. He decided he wanted to learn to play the piano because he wanted to learn to play the Moonlight Sonata. Unfortunately before he got really good enough to play the Moonlight Sonata his hearing has never really been able to achieve that. But for him music was always tremendously important. I feel think I was going to say that a lot. He had he had had a he wanted people to have a life which wasn't true but he had had a family and so that was important and he felt that people could be good physicists do good science and also be involved in other things interested in other things be able to talk about other things. Was that helpful for you. Sure. Because that's definitely the kind of person I am not one of these people who is just a physics only person who has no desire to be that way. And so Dave and I were the personality. He also liked the fact that I could write well which is certainly not true of physics. He said I was the only you only ever had two students who wrote the first draft of the thesis only needed some small changes not didn't have to go through multiple drafts just one draft and then the edits draft. I only ever had two students for whom that was true and both of us went to Harvard. He doesn't know if that was a coincidence or not but it happened to be true. That's interesting. What kind of research did you work on his research projects or did he have. Yeah yeah. And in fact I I I had been interested in non crystalline materials and glasses when I was an undergraduate and he had done some research papers on them and not not doing laboratory research for telegraphic research kind of things and I was very interested in glass structure and things like that prep work for sure. I was interested in it. So we had to do a paper in this classroom to fix things. And he had been I guess my mom my first year first or second year at Illinois. He was on sabbatical maybe only half a year and he was off at Harvard and working with the lab and he was doing some work on some non-critical material and so I proposed to him and I work on some resistance measurements of these nonofficial veterans. And he said to me it was different than what he had done for most of his research had been which had been looking at the effects in Crystal. But it was something that he now knew a little bit about because he'd been doing a bit of it on sabbatical and found it interesting to him. And that's what we've decided that I would do. Did you enjoy that. Yes. A lot of fun. I got to I mean apparatus we all had to take all the experimental stuff to take the shots that we all had to go to the machine shop and be taught by one machine to how to operate the laser and the drill press and the milling machine and all that stuff. Well how well do you really think it was. I came in there with no background in that whatsoever and the men in the shop were men a few words and the one in particular who did the teaching of the students at that time became Kyle and Kyle's method of teaching was to walk me over to the leis and say you got your long feed and you got across feed you got speed control and then you turned around and walked away. I said Kyle what is it going to do when I turn it on. What does Kyle. Well I can't turn back. He looked at me and then he showed me a little. You didn't say anything more but he showed me a little bit more about all of us had to make our own cutting tool for two years on the laser. You take this piece of tool seal and take it over to the grinding wheel and grind it into the appropriate shape all these funny little curves. And so from his method of teaching us how to do that was to hand him over to the grinder and point at a drawing above the grinding wheel of what the tool was supposed to look like. And with all the angles marked and everything. So okay so I was trying to grind that holds up looking more and more like the other picture. And then after a while Serge looks a little less and less like the picture. So I took it over to Kyle and just handed it to him. So how does that look. And he looked at it. Let me just touch it up a bit for me back. No way but it would work. I just went off and made my made my exercise as a humanity person. I find this really fascinating because I would never do the thing that's always fascinating. The conceptualizing you have of an experiment in creating the apparatus. Can you describe that process. Mean generically if you have a question that you want to answer. Take my my thesis project as an example. What is the nature of the electrical resource activity in these amorphous materials. How does that change as you change their composition and what does it tell you about the structure the way the atoms are. Okay so that we're going to have to measure and we want to do this. We could do it was to look at how the to changes as a form you change the spacing in between. So we do that by putting it under high pressure and doing high pressure experiments with something that Dave's group did a lot of. So that was a natural thing to do. Okay. Well first we had to get the material and these are made by Allied Signal. So I had to contact people with Allied Signal and see if I could arrange to get some of them. So you had to have persuasive skills is why they should actually send you the stuff. And then we need to have pressure so I was going to do a whole set of measurements which meant that I not only had to subjective sample to high pressure but also to a magnetic field. So I had to design and build a high pressure cell that would go in the magnet. So I had to do all the dimensions. And I had to learn how to how to design a high pressure cell. Now this was not new technology but I had to make my own particular one particular and I had to wait the wire around for the heating to be open and heated up. And Dave gave me some help with that but made me understand how Bridgeman feels work and so that I had to do all this had to be made out of a material that would hold up under a very high pressure and also would be non magnetic because I was going to put it in the magnet and would withstand high temperatures while doing all of that. There aren't too many such materials. And I looked through all of the different information I had yet and determined that an alloy high nickel super called Rene 41 would be just the ticket for this. So I tried to procure some of that and it turned out that nobody uses to make jet turbine and nobody would. So I needed a foot. I knew. I needed a rod that was maybe three inches in diameter and a foot or too long so much I knew they would sell me a boxcar load but they wouldn't sell me. So I vanished. Ultimately I still put what I. I persuaded them to sell me just a foot. I think what happened is that it basically fell off the truck. I don't think that Christine. No it's not that it's just that I think that they had a shipment that just ended up being a foot short. Do you think they felt sorry for it. Oh well then I ended up with my 144 841 and that material was designed that I had was more complex than any graduate student with no machines no expectation that I would do that myself right. Because we have professional machinists and they they actually need to sell for me. That was I made this simple little things and they made the thing that had to be exactly right or else it was going to blow up. It's good that they work on that. And so they made that for me but I had to wait the heating wire around it that I'll not get all that to work at all the electrical leads to work and everything and then put the whole thing in the magnet and then fix the magnet after it broke that particular magnet. You know you're in trouble when you take a piece of apparatus apart and you find the serial number and it starts with this. This is I think it was the first superconducting magnet that Varian ever made. And when I tried to take it apart because it wasn't working I had the schematics and I had the magnet and they were not the same. Somewhere in between they had modified design had blood drawn. So I'd call up here and everybody who had ever worked on this negative just either retired or died. So is this typical. This isn't the way they're experimental projects always works. It's perfectly normal. Here's my question What are you doing on this. And it either doesn't turn out the way you wanted to or doesn't give you the answer that you want. Well that doesn't give you the answer that you want. Well just go with the answer that nature of nature always gets good right. That's when you have. But it may not be what you thought might not be it may very well not be what you thought it would be. And in fact that's more interesting to me Rutherford used to say that if you ever get the answers that you were predicting then you should be disappointed because now you can't learn anything more. Whereas if you get an answer you weren't expecting. You to take you're in a new direction and you just you've learned something you thought you knew something and it turns out that's not true. You learn something different. So if there are experiments that fail. In fact one of my graduate students who graduate his first experiments that he was doing for his thesis failed we went we thought we were going to measure these particular expectations as a function of magnetic fields. And there were no expectations observed. And so that's when the advisor has to have the project in the top drawer pull up the drawer and you pick up the project that's going to take about six months and you give that to the students and they do that. Is that a lot of added pressure to direct this graduate students with their projects. Sure. Because because if they fail if they fail they don't get a degree. And this is good for you. It's not good for me but also if if I do an experiment and it fails well I've done a lot of experiment. I'm going to do more experiments. I already have a degree. They don't mess with you. I mean I've certainly done experiments on my own sabbatical that fail and experiments fail but then I go to another seven. That's not a big deal for me but for the students. The student has to have an experiment that works to graduate. So that's long tail it telling you is this is the way physics experiments work. You come up with an idea. You design the apparatus for it you build the apparatus make the measurements you do the mathematical analysis of the data and figure out what the data are telling you. Then you write it up you publish it you get a spring and then you get a job and then you write more articles. That's right. In ten years. Keep going it keeps going and help graduate students do the same thing. But the business of designing the apparatus and building up and breaking it and fixing it and all of that is just the way you put you enjoy that. Oh that's great. So once you get your piece and I'm assuming your experiment was successful you did get a degree. I did get a degree but I still have to sell my adviser retired and give up his lab and he cleared out all the stuff that was there and e-mails me myself I still have your office. Did he try to glue an orange ribbons around if you want my colors. No. Sweetness so very soft. So once you got your degree then what did you do. I was sending you just wanted to go find a regular faculty position or we don't know the normal path in physics and other sciences. Is that right after graduate school then you have a postdoc. Yeah. And so I was looking for both. I got interviewed for some industry jobs but that was sort of you know you kind of do that too. But that was not what I was after. And I interviewed a couple of postdocs and Dave wrote to a lot of people he knew saying I have this student she's looking for a postdoc. And one of the people he wrote to his address will have it on my cheek who had been his classmate Chicago when they were graduating together. And he said Oh I've always wanted to exchange postdocs. So I met up with you I wrote turns and they had written to her and I met up with her at the March meeting and we talked and she decided that she would offer me. And so I went there in December of 1982 after I was going to go a little bit earlier but I got married in December. That's exactly what's. Hold on. So where did you meet your husband. We shared a tee off. He was a year arrive a year earlier. He was also physics. So I mean we share an office with like ten years in it and we shared that and we discovered that we were going to the same concert separately and we started to go to them together five years later. Was it helpful to have a partner or to find a partner that no one knew physics but also enjoy that other part of the music. Oh absolutely. I just mean that we we have a friend who refers to us as the twins which is especially funny if he's ever seen the two of us together because he's a foot taller than I am and has a full beard and this big guy. So physically but we have enormously overlapping interests there's really very little that one of us is interested since he hasn't Well just this begs another question. You're obviously arranging for a dual career. How did you manage that. Well he knew that he wanted ultimately and industrial life. He did not want an academic journal. And so he was willing to simply follow me around. So I got the postdoc in my key and merely arranged for him to interview with some tackles various faculty and that she knew. And so he ended up getting a postdoc with a professor was actually the chemistry department. And so he followed me. He finished I finished in December and he finished the following May when he joined me and I see them and worked for this girl and chemistry department. And then when it came time my postdoc for me to look for jobs. I looked for academic jobs in places where I thought it would be likely that he could find an industrial town. So Carolina was one of them. And so they offered me a job and I took it. And so he's finished up his postdoc he arrived. I went there in 1984 and he arrived and I guess October thereabouts I remember and a lot of the faculty members in the department at Chapel Hill worked as a consultant for DuPont and they were just building up a lab their electronics division in Research Triangle Park. And so he arranged for have to interview with them and hiring him because that all worked out very very well worked out. Do you think it would have been different if he had chosen academia. It would have been much harder to find two jobs. I mean these jobs are kind of gone on the ground so that would have been much more different. And I watch people I know who go through that duel and I did a study on my own in my own case it worked out very well and that we did what many couples do which is one career is the primary the other secondary is the difference between us and many other couples and a lot of couples and some male's career that he was perfectly content. We want to get this real job. And so wherever I wanted to go that there was some reasonable opportunity for him. He was quite happy with that. And it's good that you didn't have to live apart for too long. Yeah I was only four. I think it took us a year after we moved to North Carolina for us to have lived together longer than separately. We got married but it was just it was an extended period at all. So how did you like working once. It was wonderful. She's been an enormous influence on my career. All kinds of ways. You describe five minutes or so of course I learned a huge amount of physics with her and ended up doing quite different kinds of experiments with her than I had done as a graduate. Why do you think that those with these firms that were there and the kinds of things that were available to do questions that were around materials. We had equipment that was available and so I I took up optical experiments and that's what I do. I've done that ever since. So in that sense it is a very direct input but she also takes when she takes proteges. It's not just for the period that you're with her group. It's four hours for him. So ever since she comes to understand her she's opposed us quite well and identifies in them characteristics and ambitions that I think often we don't even know we have. And so she then later when for example someone as they often do will ask her. Oh. We need a young person for this National Committee. Who should we ask. Well that's something Lori would like to do. And so she would. Then of course it's up to me to deliver it to really good mentor. A wonderful wonderful mentor. And ever since whenever I have the chance to meet with her at a meeting or whatever we can find the time which for her is hard to sit down have lunch or at least maybe just sit down over coffee and I'll tell her what I'm doing. And she'll say things like well do you get with that I think it's time for you to direct. I don't have to do it but it's generally very good advice. She has been a wonderful influence. It sounds like she has also assisted you. What profession. Well that's a good question. What. How did you begin to interact and professional organizations from when did you start going to conferences. My first conference was when I was finishing graduate school. The big meeting in my field to CPS marched me right. And so I went for the first time in March of the year in which I graduated. And what did you think of it. A lot of people have just gotten much bigger but it was just trying to the format of this meeting is there are sessions from 8:00 a.m. through till 5:00 p.m. then their special sessions in the evening and they run continuously. And there are some sessions that have invited talks that are 30 minutes long but most of the sessions are contributed 10 minutes long. So you're trying to take in the information in 10 minute increments and there's only so much you can sell. If you're in a session where all of the papers are very much on the same subject and so you already have some background on what you're hearing that then you can actually get some nuggets of information. But if you're walking into a session where you don't know very much or if the session is a kind of mix then you're hearing all this stuff that you can't you simply can't absorb that amount of time and people just can't explain enough of it. So that was overwhelming and I had that experience trying to take stuff in in that short amount of time and just being around. I mean there is a big place that is sitting around that many citizens none of whom like you and majority were male. Correct. Oh of course. And how did you find that experience. Same as it was everywhere else. It's always been that way. And you've been pretty active. Yeah. And again this is due to both my advisor Dave Lazarus who was editor in chief for this is for you at that time. So he was very much involved in then M.E. who was president of I guess the year before I maybe the year I arrived and right around that time. So she was present. And very active and she suggested my name for the Committee of Women and all that kind of thing. So she got me involved in these things and made it clear that she felt that this kind of involvement assuming that you had sort of the temperament for it was kind of a civic duty not another one. But she because you pointed out this also gives you a wonderful opportunity to meet an awful lot of active and in many cases very important people in the field and possible collaboration. Any idea exactly what we're going to jump here since you mentioned the Committee on Standards of women. How did you enjoy your work with that group. It was very interesting. One of the few opportunities as a professional was to be in a room which is how large is that it's nine members. It's a three year term and you go through your staggered term listening monitors so when you synthesis the committee from the existence of the mid 70s. So it's collect data it suggests things that the society could do to enhance the participation of women. It started despite his program and in fact I have been going on for a while. And while I was chair I institutionalized it actually attached he said it had been a freestanding thing that Millie and Judy and Clark had done and attached it. What are some of the issues that you really notice in this work. Well I think the climate issue is definitely there it's there and to some degree in every department. But it's quite variable. There are some departments that really are very very welcoming there as much as you can be when there are no departments that have more than 30 percent among the graduate students. I can't think of any different that many departments have more than maybe six or seven women on the faculty. Even in a very large department. So there's always always some issues even from that category of men that I refer to as the benign clueless who it's not to say that they do believe that women should participate more than they come that women are just as good as them but they just they're clueless exactly like that. It is just an example that not exactly that context that I had a meeting with the chairs of the science department at Chapel Hill which we were talking about issues in connection with the advanced proposal and talked about how letters of recommendation for women are written differently than letters from men and the chair of the Chemistry Department who really is right minded on all of these issues. No question about it. I sort of looked startled and after the meeting he went back to his office and pulled out the last letter he'd written for a female graduate student left a letter he's written for male graduate students put them side by side said Oh my God I do it too. This is somebody who really gets it. He gets it absolutely gets it but he did not notice that the climate issue and then simply numbers just getting numbers no couples will go back to the Kremlin fish or postdocs just like those back in 1984 took up a faculty position know Carol and I was the first woman hired him tenure track departments. How was that. It was interesting. There were two aspects of course I would say to the first I'm not the first woman in the department ever in the history of that was I think had some influence over the experience I had years before a very important person in gravity's series a man named Bryson which just died last year. I think he had Dennis Chapel Hill as had been his wife do. It was also a very important person in the field. The university department had not given her a position and do it and this was when even when the. But it was years before I got there they were still talking about things they were still talking about how what a really dumb move that was. Why is it that we didn't take the effort so that we could have kept both grades do it feel to it. They didn't like her in substance that's not really quite how it happened but in fact one of the less discreet members of the faculty some years ago mentioned to me that I was not their first choice that they had to be to I guess a lot of great memories. We will go where you'll always be better. But the two people you mentioned just having their choices that they would have preferred before me one of them won the Nobel Prize not too long ago and the other the distinguished professor at Harvard. So I don't feel bad that's still not a very you know this kind of bar and you got to know this guy. He has no filters and a lot of what he says I don't even know if this is completely true. I know part of it's true and it may not be completely as he says it anyway. Most of what he says isn't completely as he says it is. And that's just because you're the first woman did you feel extra pressure when you came in at some level the other aspects besides being the first woman I was also the first person they hired and about seven years. And I was also you know the department was was aging. So you're the younger. Exactly. Mean the way I would put it is I arrived at Chapel Hill and the group retires. Any connection between the two. But it was true that the group in my son's discipline had just reached retirement age and they just fell off the edge of a cliff very quickly after that. And so was much younger than anybody. You were a baby boomer. I was the age of their daughters and they just didn't quite know how to interact with a colleague who was female and their daughter's age. They knew well and they tried. In fact two senior professors both now retired went out of their way apropos of nothing individually separately to tell me that in their son and daughter in law's household Mabel was the daughter and the son in law the two of them shared the cooking. What I was supposed to do with this information. I have no idea but I took it as a sign they were trying to say something like Okay I know I'm old fashioned but at least I raised my kids to be egalitarian and I understand the system the way it should be. That was my interpretation. I think you were right. But how did this impact on your P.A. experience growing up in your research. Well I mean it's the perfect kind of forgotten how to determine in a long time. And they had to remember how to do that. And they when it came time for my first interim reviews a three year review they suddenly realized Oh wait we ought to have somebody assigned us as a mentor or something. I'm not quite sure how many volunteered or doctor said he would do that. No he's not my field but he likes me on and one of my great friends and I never quite figured out what it is he actually did. I think he spoke up for me at a meeting or something I don't know. But he did try to help me with getting grants. So the one person actually who chairs the search committee that hired me who was also my scientific older brother he was the first student of David Lazarus and I was the 40 seconds to. So we were bookends in fact we ended up organizing Dave's retirement party side by side. And so the guy Larry was named tried to help me with this grant getting which he was certainly helpful with that. But they really quite know what to do. And even the previous hires they've had some years earlier were not laboratory experimentalists they were astronomers and zero. And so they hadn't had the experience of having somebody come in and try to build up a lab in living memory. I wouldn't know how to evaluate what you were doing and not not know how to evaluate the science. I was certainly very mainstream science and they could count the dollars and they could get the paper and they could read teaching evaluations you know in that sense what I was doing was not peculiar but what I was having to do to get there was to build up the lab. I mean I arrived in the lab was not empty. The lab was full of junk. And so first of all that had to be cleared out and then they weren't ready for it. They really weren't ready for anything but you got left. I got let's definitely go to hell on let's say it was a lot of these older guys had given up their research so I had left before I get the junk out and they were very helpful but they didn't really have it on their mind of what was going to have to be done so that I can hit the ground. So I didn't really hit the ground running but they didn't get their way they get my way and they really felt I needed to be lucky. So yeah they all pitched in all the stuff out of the dump and whatnot. And so they were very helpful. The associate the chair at that time was not especially dynamic individual not a great great guy. But the associate chair had given up on research a number of years ago and she said he managed to graduate student and get all the class teaching assignments like that and tried to be as helpful as possible to everybody. He was very helpful to me in doing in fact the lamp that I was taking over had done his lab years ago but he had done research on it for a long time. Is that different from different for most departments isn't it. I mean most people are actively researching and yet it was a demographic they'd all been hired in the 50s and this is now in the 80s and they were retirement plans so it was a pretty sleepy place. The department is far more research active now than I was. Well here's my other question. In terms of physics because it's such a small community do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing. I mean do you think that's been good for your career. Or do you have you had some negative experience in that because it is a small community. It's not that hard to get to know people who are important to you and who could be useful to you as collaborators or who can arrange for you to meet somebody you need to meet or can get you on a committee that you want to do something on. And so in that sense it is much easier. I think that chemistry doesn't. The community is much smaller. It's not as small as it looks in some sense because there's a large industrial there for campus because the ones that you will see at meetings are a small fraction of the total universe out there. But on the other hand if you're an academic This is something to be worked with anyway. So the fact is that our meetings are huge meeting of 8000 people not 20000 does feel pretty good. Once you've got tenure and you went through that and I'm assuming the tender process is pretty easy I didn't really notice they said give us the stuff here. That's just months later. So once you decide did you feel like a weight was off that a little bit. A little bit but to be honest it never occurred to me that most people are traumatized or felt like that's what it sounds like they were they really didn't get your way and they made sure you did everything you needed to do. And that's really a thing I didn't like I said I really almost didn't notice that it was a little bit of overstatement but it was not something I was asking about doing in writing papers. I just sort of kind of nobody told me different enemies in that. Oh no no no no no. It happens sometimes. No nothing like nothing purposeful grandfathers. I've got an advantage for you though that they came and they kind of all retired and get on the way. Are you the longest standing before. Before I had tenure I was the senior active experimentalists in the group. I had an opportunity to play a leadership role in a way that that's not all the younger people in the group now have as much though. How many people are in your department now 29 department chair in which people talk about the things that you would like to share about your research that you did while you were at North Carolina's special projects that you stick out in your memory or that felt like you felt like it taught you something specific and special. I mean that's the best research project is always someone you're working on right now. What were you working on right now I'm working on organic semiconductors I'm trying to understand their optical properties and how that arises from the structure and the chemical composition which is where my chemistry background actually comes in very handy. In fact students are working with me now discover that they have to learn much more chemistry than they know. Okay so if I'm learning it's not a bad thing. I know it's not that hard. It's much easier the quantum field. You enjoy working with your students. Oh yeah yeah. And I'm assuming you also teach you do you like teaching or do you love me or do you prefer me. I would not want to give up either one. They both are satisfying their discipline. You usually teach graduate courses or you teach an undergraduate. No actually for laughs I teach for a little graduate level mostly or graduate high school here except for specialty courses in experimental techniques and things like that. My mantra is using spectroscopy. So the people who teach the classical dynamics and the quantum mechanics and statistical accounts tend to be serious for whom that is their daily bread and butter in the same way that building apparatus is my friend right. So it's not a universal rule but most of our graduate courses are complex here. I mostly teach undergraduates than I've taught from first year students to seniors depending for the last seven years I've been teaching. Among other things I got close to time for a first year seminar on the musical instruments. The first thing I'm going to talk about. That was a professor in the music department. You have an absolute Grant. That's a lot of fun. It's huge fun and he's wonderful and I really enjoy working with him. He's also a very fine teacher so I learn a lot from him watching him work together because we're always both there in the class every day. We don't take shifts watching him teach and learn from him as well. So that's a lot of fun. I love teaching. I think I value teaching probably more more than more than many of my colleagues and some of them are not pleased about the emphasis that I'm putting out here you're actually changing the direction of. So I would prefer to do research and bring in money as opposed to objective teaching assistants that don't necessarily think it's like they think it's just fine the way they're doing it. And it takes a time when. And there's no question the research university the reward system is set up if you are a brilliant teacher and aren't doing much research. The rewards will not flow. That's right. How do you deal with that. Oh for 10 years faculty you just have to go with that. You can't you really can't do anything else because if you push them in another direction you risk that they won't get tenure. And that's not in anybody's interests. You hired these people because you want them to be with you forever. If you encourage them to do things that will prevent them from getting tenure that's not in your interests. So they have a chance then you mentioned your your music class. And I have to ask you. You balance your life and your work pretty well. Do you feel like you have parts of your life your personal life as opposed to your professional life that you enjoy. Oh sure. That's not been an issue. It doesn't really know. I them and I've chosen not to have children and that has made that balancing far easier than it would otherwise. But there's no question about that. Did you make that decision because of your job or it just worked out. What I particularly like. Well you know what we're going to edit this out. I don't have kids either so nice when there's someone else and we're going to edit that out but that probably does because a lot of times I ask women about this. Child care is always the biggest issue. But even so I mean there are times when I felt like I have a hard time stopping work and really enjoying life and just interest in terms of house cleaning and just balancing that or just finding time to do the things you want. So it sounds like you've made that a priority. Yes I have. I mean for one thing Monday night when chorus rehearsal is sacred time nothing gets in the way of that there's no meeting there is no there's nothing that I do that will prevent me from getting too close for one season because then I'm going to get to class and I'm going to be able sing something. What do what do you think. I don't necessarily make it sound like I'm working my way towards the office. Really. Well you're getting older. We have one woman in the. We started out as the first soprano tenor. She's going to go to court for 42 years. Say Carol anytime you're ready. Well I confess that I sang in the high school choir. I sang also but I also think sometimes your voice does lower. You. So it sounds like you really enjoyed it. It sounds like the singing really oh you that it's tremendously important to me that they have that musical experience not just to listen to music but only participate in a very important thing for me. The fact that my husband goes to it is awesome. He's a tenor which I can't tell you the number of courses I've gotten him to because I say I come with tenor tenors are very rare. So in fact he so he's not really a tenor. He just has the ego the great thing about seeing those it's a group activity. It's also individual that's right at the same time and you're being creative even if you're singing an older song really. Unlike an orchestral player you're dealing with something that has to do with emotion and kind words. The orchestra players are expressing musical ideas but they're not saying anything particular precise which you don't have to work on our facial expressions. Okay let's see what else we should talk about. Because I know there's no way I'll be able to get to everything. So there are things that stick out to you about. We talked briefly about your research and teaching. Are there other things that stick out in terms of your administrative experience or your experience with the institution in your life. Sure. I from 2001 to 2003 I led the effort to create a new general education curriculum for the for the college. I was in charge of that which was an experience that was interesting in all the senses that one use of that word. It was like herding 150 cats and 16 committees each of them mostly faculty and students and the occasional staff members on them and just we all had to move forward to get to this conclusion. So it was I learned a lot about how to conduct such a large project how to manage people how to get them to do what they need to do how to keep them moving forward and not mean the history committee was going to wander off in some strange directions to deal with them. But it was extremely successful that we were able to produce a curriculum that went through some vetting and so forth. But then when we finally brought it forward to the Faculty Council we had to rule on it. It was not only did it pass without a dissenting vote it passed without a dissenting remark. The faculty got up and said do you people know what you just. Ran. For faculty council or Senate to not have a dissenting remark. I was ready I had a number of things that I was ready to say you know what I thought the professor of surgery was gonna get up at the middle of my day when it happened. Yeah well the thing is the way our faculty council is set up is of course representatives from all across the university and proportional to. And there's more medical school people than there are college courses so there are more people councils so why this council which is mostly made up of people who do not see the graduate is charged with deciding what the undergraduates dominated that they can't they can't and they should be given more basketball tickets than undergraduate education. So I was ready for the professor of surgery who is going to stand up and say well back in my day but he decided not to do that I guess. So I want to have a drink. I said in my letter of resignation Yes I just consider that the duty that you asked me to perform has been discharged and I hereby resign from this office. What else did you write. That's a pretty major accomplishment. I mean that's something I am quite proud of. And in fact a recent exchange with a friend of mine at Harvard where their curriculum review process has melted down completely. And so we've had a little discussion. Peter what did you guys do right. I mean there's not a whole lot that North Carolina does better than Harvard but this is one of the best of all. But that's about Harvard not about. That's probably the biggest certainly the biggest administrative thing I've ever done I've been involved in a lot of other things. We did a previous Chancellor decided to put together a task force on intellectual climate and I was part of that steering committee for that and chaired the committee on faculty rules and reports which was a very very interesting process. I felt we had wonderful discussions came up with some wonderful recommendations about ways that we could change the reward structure to encourage faculty engage more in things that really would enhance the intellectual climate across the campus. And that report went into a black hole in the basement of our administration building. So it was a wonderful experience of actually producing I met a lot of really good people worked with them got to know them that in fact it was during that process that my coach teacher and I decided that we would teach you something. Well what else about North Carolina stands out for you. I mean it sounds like I'm in support of your research it sounds like they're supportive of your teaching. Well here's a question how did you decide you want to be department chair. I don't know what to actually. Well I guess it's partly sort of a demographic thing that when it came time for the chair the next year to be selected they were not very many people in sort of a subset of people who would be reasonable choices who were at the right point in their career and not too old not too young. They were tenured tenured professors in our department we don't have a chair who's not a full professor we don't have to because we have somebody. And so you don't want you don't want to have an associate professor share if you absolutely have to. For one thing they have to do the process for promotion of people to suffer so that we have enough professors we don't have to do that. So people the people who were full professors were not too old to take it on not being able to retire or simply were not interested in taking on that major responsibility point in their careers fun and have the temperament for it. There were not many choices I had been a teacher for five years. Did you like that experience. Yeah that was interesting. I became associate chair when the chair who preceded me when he became chair he wanted to put together his cabinet of people who would help him and he he wanted me to be in it but I wasn't sure exactly given my choice of things to do. All the stuff needs doing any thought I could do any of that. I just want to be ended up asking me to sort of make up a position that we ended up calling it a future for campus which really was to enhance the especially the undergraduate program but also the graduate program too. I mean one of the things we were under the gun that we needed more for the caterers and so part of my portfolio was just to figure out how to do that and make it happen. And so I did a lot of recruiting and figuring out ways to change how we did the classes so that we would keep the ones we got and drive people away. Exactly. And you're really working out quite the numbers. They just went up that's not just my doing national trend but also it was a lot of high touch. The thing is it's amazing when you have a prospective college students come in a professor will sit down and take 15 minutes to talk with him and his parents makes a huge difference. They think we're important. I mean it's amazing it's all out of proportion to the effort involved and the day after that made a huge difference and we now have sort of a system set up whereby that gets done every physics major is precious. We only graduate about over 15 a year every week I kept telling my colleagues if we increase it by one look at the percentage. If you measure one more physics major you're doing a really good serve one an impact. So after being associate chair you decided that you want. I was I didn't know you were it was just it was obvious to me as I said you just tell me you have a problem you know you look around maybe it might be time and I've been there you were there for 20 years. So it's time. Yes it's obvious me I do have the temperament to do this. I do have the skills to do it I want it to be done well so I could even do it for complaint. So what have you found the most difficult people. Absolutely. Being a department chair would be easy if the department had no people. I don't know if that can be arranged. The personalities and there are some very difficult personalities in my department. Know fewer of them than there used to be for which I thank all my previous chairs. But still some who make life quite difficult. And there are some who simply everything they do is make my life difficult. Simply having to swap them down all the time and there are others who really have their hearts in the right place and are doing really good things. But their personalities are such that they make life difficult with other people. So you want to say okay yes this is great. It's wonderful that you do this but could you maybe not get your colleagues back. Yeah that's right. There was one moment in the last year where over the renewal of one of our um tenured faculty there was a feeling that he had not treated a graduate student very well. And that was very much two sides to that story. But the Director of Graduate Studies he is one of these very good hearted but very abrasive people got sort of all up in arms about this and alienated a whole bunch of other people. So I end up having to have two of them sitting down in my office on the couch in my office getting them to talk to each other. And there was one point when one of them said well you should have known that that would make me feel bad when you said that. And I'm thinking if I wanted to become a marriage counsellor I would have thought different. I just really lost in. A marriage counselor would say well how can I know if you don't say anything. Communicates that that that's absolutely the most difficult part. And what's the easiest. I mean all of this sort of technical things dealing with the budgets and the paperwork and that sort of thing that you have to see arguments not so hard. What about the impact it had on your research and teaching. Well the teaching one course a year and sort of two. And so I'm able to keep that going partly because I've been teaching this first year seminar for seven times now. And I have the coach teacher and so it just goes along and it's not too much. It's only 22. So it's not that hard to do the research so far has been fine but is about to be problematic. It's been fine because I've had two senior students both of whom are graduating. One just got her finish her oral final oral a couple weeks ago and the other one is due to do it. And when they leave they will leave me with one student who is only really now doing the first experiments that will be part of this dissertation. I'm worried about that and I'm seeking some additional fun. I've got him covered for funding but I've got a proposal and I I've been bugging the program officer about to find out he's going to fund that to get support another student so that he needs to have I have needs to have somebody else write only. And also a lot of stuff we do need for him. So would just be equipment. One person's gotta be on the side of the table the other on the other side adjusting simultaneously. So so that's problematic. So I'm concerned about I'm trying to move my way to make the most sense but I've never had a very large group which is one of the things that we've run into in some of my interviews that sometimes women scientists or engineers find out they're good at administration or sometimes they get kind of sucked into the Mary Sue Coleman where the talent and so they end up giving up their research. I think she was really torn about that. I'm not there yet it's clear that I do have a talent for it. But as long as I get through my my term is department chair I think I'll be able to do that. And then the question is what happens after we do another five years or I don't have any intention of doing that. My husband said when I accepted the job you said your first job is to train your successor. How has he dealt with the time issue and find his apartment. No he doesn't it doesn't bother him. I get home later and I'm out more at night. But he's a self entertaining and it really is not an issue and he enjoys his career. Oh well he's not. Oh he's not. No actually works the Duke. You can't have a number of years ago they had a big cost cutting measure and he was on the plastic. And so then he got a job at Rakim which was bought by Tyco then and had a big cost cutting measure and sent all of their manufacturing to Mexico. He declined. And then he was unemployed for 18 months which was stressful. And then he kind of pressure to put on fat that was just that was very difficult. It never was. We never got to the point of saying well maybe we should move on because then it was well then we'd have to find two jobs instead of just one live like that. I said I'd need to find someplace that was willing to take me as a tenured faculty member. And so that just really didn't look like the way to go. And he now works in the free electron laser lab at Duke their chief engineer keeping the machines running and building he likes it a lot. Although having done an industry his take on the lab their academic lab is like organizations. This isn't one is there not a structure not a structure. In fact he enjoys the job very much. But we didn't like being unemployed. He said he's enjoyed a lot. Well that's good. But I imagine that was really stressful. It was very stressful because he like he identifies himself as I am what I do right and I'm not doing anything or anything. It puts the added pressure on you financially. Financial loss was not really big. This was psychological it was a psychological. We weren't in danger of not being able to make a mortgage payment anything like this. We had plenty of savings. I'm comfortable. I still had a comfortable income. So that was the pressure the pressure was. You didn't have he's not a person. I don't see I don't see how people could. Some people do. And it was it was less the I don't have something to do as much as I don't have meaningful work I don't have an identity. This is my identity. We were careful that we did not switch into a mode where we took the attitude that he was working full time at finding a job. So you know we didn't expect that he would do more housework or more cooking or anything like that than he's been in the house but he was already doing well because he's still he was important. First of all did he have the time to be dedicated to his work. No he did not become a different take on a different role so that his professional life was still important. Right. Would you like to talk about know what I wanted to hear about actually the Latin American series involved would you like. That was interesting. I saw this thing came up on the listserv for women I certainly hope that's something that was something across America. What the heck. So I sent in my application and they decided to invite me to come and I think it was the only person in the series that didn't say I had no Latino connection at all. And listen to that not at all. And all the other people that they sent were looking at some you know they were from what most of them were from Latin America and they had made their careers in the U.S. and coming back down and talk about them. And so they sent me and another woman actually from North Carolina State University in vet school. And she does diseases that passed between takes and people feel another disease and send us to many stories. And it was it was a very interesting experience at the conference they sent us to was actually a conference on sort of human rights and science and society and stuff like that. It was a between the two. It was a very small conference. There might have been maybe 50 people there. Of course it's totally Spanish but they did they didn't have a translator and so forth for part of it not for the whole thing. But some of that I just sort of tried to pick up what I could from some of the transparencies and I do know some French so I could pick up a little from that. And so but sometimes the other woman was there would give me this one sentence summary of the last paragraph. And so that was that was kind of interesting. It was sort of funny because they asked us to talk about our science and then tell until about our life and science. And I think they made it an interesting pairing of myself and the other woman because we talked a little bit about our lives. And she she was from where I am today a major career in the U.S. and along the way she been married a couple of times and had several kids and was no longer married. Did she talk to you. I should talk about any topic but she talked about her kids and how that went in her life and her scientific life. And I only been married once and I don't have it. And so I definitely talked about you know among you know part of my life was the fact that I'm married to another physicist and so on and Maria told me afterwards that although the women who came up to talk or didn't come talk to me and didn't speak English very well. And so I asked her you know you have kids and no husband she has husband and no kids husband no kids part was very foreign to I guess that's because they don't like people there were not. And so this was a very very strange thought that strange in my own up to the community world. It's not that strange. It's not uncommon in women in science. I actually a lot of women a lot of women didn't get married but interestingly don't have children. Of course she can afford it. I mean there are a lot of ways children are. Yes they are. Well is there anything else that you would like to share before we stop. Can I give you a break before your next meeting talking about myself is not really there anything you like actually miss interactions with female students and younger women certainly inevitably end up being a role model. I have to be of the family. What I want you guys. I exist in this role model. And there have been times when I've felt a little conflicted about talking to young women to encourage them to come to me to make careers. It's been a great life for me. But there are a lot of challenges some of which I have been able to just a little more. They don't have really bothered me. But not everybody is quite like that. In fact the younger the women the less likely they are to have a fairly fixed. That's right. And this has been an issue. And there's some of the work that I've done where we've seen younger women who have been really outraged about things that most of us two or three years older. Well that's how you get over it. There's some generational generational thing and there's a certain level of how much do you want to tell them because you want people to be prepared into things with their eyes open but also hoping that it will in fact be better for them than it has been for more senior women. But on the other hand I guess I'm going to see a lot of young women think that it's all over that everything is equal there are no barriers and that there are no women are treated exactly the same as men. And even in areas like physics that simply is not true. And what happens I think is that young women do have that kind of experience or that stage in their careers because people like proteges and they don't like rivals. And as you become more senior and you move from one category you can see your experience become different and you're seen almost as not as a threat but your competition. And that's quite different than nurturing a producer right. That is dependent on someone who's whose glory you're just creating their own. Exactly. Exactly. So there's there's it's often I don't quite know how much to tell you about. I will tell them about what my experience has been but if they ask me what is it like what is it what am I going to experience. Well I can't say what they're going to experience but I suspect that what they're going to experience is different from what you're experiencing right now that it is going to be different as they become more seasoned as they rise in their ranks. So that's something that I haven't quite made up my mind how to feel and also to deal with the institutional issues of dual careers and things like that that I don't think a lot of women graduate students even think that they're dealing with their everyday struggles and haven't even thought about it to make at least academia what the different levels well Nellie Russell House has very often been asked the question. You've had this fabulous career and you have four children and you know what's the secret. How do you do this. She just married the right person. Easier said than done. They took her to try. But we don't talk about that. But she's absolutely right. I mean having a supportive spouse is absolutely key. Do you think it's better to have a spouse in your profession because it does take away from someone you can talk to. He understands when I told him I had to be taken apart. Sometimes it almost might be competition for jobs. I mean if you're both in the same area and you both want the same kind of job. I think that can be a problem. And there have been I know of some cases of couples getting divorced because they ended up with different opinions about whose career should take precedence. So I would try to tell young women talk about this before. The same way that you might talk about do you want to have children. We're going to follow one religion or the other sort of issues that are important when you're deciding if you're going to make your lives together. Talk about that one too. I don't know that they do it. Yeah exactly. I ended up not having to have that conversation because we we already agreed upon it before we had a discussion. I am very lucky. I've been very lucky. A lot of the way that you deal with that lock yourself who has taken advantage of oneself. Anything else that you want to share. I mean I have lots of other stories. 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