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You know, much of what we are told, we are told, that it comes with a great deal of authority our parents and our grandparents at least our spiritual parents and grandparents will often say to us, well that's the way it's always been. And sometimes they will, they will tell you, well, that's the way God ordained it. That's God's will. And fortunately from time to time, God calls up profits among us to speak what is His will. And at times what we are told is God's will and what is actually God's will, are two different things. So fortunately for us, we have with us two profits in religion tonight and it gives me a great deal of pleasure to introduce a very good and dear friend, Katrina Swanson.\r\n\r\n- Thank all.\r\n\r\n- Thank all of you for inviting me to be with you this evening. It's uh, indeed in honor to be here with you in Ames and for us to be working on some of these issues together. Can everybody hear me? Great. We're here tonight to talk about the changing role of women and religion. And especially I was asked to speak about the concept of authority as far as women have been involved in religion and then things spiritual and what has been happening through the centuries has been illustrated among other places in scripture. And I think that words and especially in scripture words are very important. There are six words that have been used translated to the word authority in English that come out of six different Hebrew or Greek words that I will be dealing with tonight. And it's interesting. I'm just taking these six words because they are texts that have to do with, of the authority of women down through the time. The first story I want to tell you is the story of Esther because one of those authority words was used to talk about Esther. The story starts out after the emperor Xerxes had been having a seven day drink them up party with his buddies and he invited his queen whose name was Vashti to come and meet his friends. In fact, the scripture say that he was kind of feeling no pain, only they used different words than that.\r\n\r\n- And Vashti said, 'Thank you very much but no, thank you.' And so the emperor didn't quite know how to respond to that kind of a response. I guess he wasn't used to anybody sort of not accepting his invitations, especially his wife. And so he spoke with his advisors and I don't imagine that any of his advisors were women and his advisors said we think you ought to get rid of her because if the other women in the empire hear about this then we're all in trouble because the other women are going to start not doing what we asked them to do too. And so Xerxes did get rid of Vashti and then it began to get a little bit lonely. So everybody said, well, now it's time for you to get a new person to keep you company. And so Xerxes kind of had his own private Playboy club. And he had a tryout for people to come and decide which one he was going to pick. And this contest was such that it took each of the contestants a whole year to get her act together to perform for this one night or to be available for this one night. Well, comes on the scene a very very lovely woman whose name was Esther. And she must have really had a very special personality because the people who helped to prepare the women for this contest really took a liking to her. And sure enough, you can guess this next part of the story is that Xerxes decides that Esther is the lady for him. And so they, she becomes queen Esther and everything goes along fine for a while. And fact, Esther has a marvelous uncle named Mordecai who has been her guardian down through the ages. And Mordecai finds out that some folks are going to assassinate Xerxes and he blows the whistle in a way is a bit of a hero because he has saved Xerxes life. But there's so often a villain in these stories and the villain's name was Hayman and Hayman became the prime minister of this thing. And unfortunately Hayman just kind of had a big swelled head which got bigger and bigger and bigger. And somewhere along the line the emperor decides that it would be a neat idea. I think probably Hayman decided this but the emperor did something about it. If everybody bowed down to Hayman and so Hayman could feel even more important and Mordecai Esther's uncle felt that he really couldn't bow down to a human and that Hayman wasn't God. So he didn't bow down to him. And so eventually the story got around that the reason Mord.. Mordecai was not bowing down was because he was a Jew. And so Hayman decided to get even with Mordecai by getting the King to issue a decree, saying that all Jews would have to be killed on a certain day. And Mordecai was pretty upset and Esther found out about it and it's really beautiful to see their relationship there. She really cared. And so they got together and Mordecai said we're all in this together. Something's got to be done. And Esther says, well, ordinarily you're not supposed to go see my husband, even me. And let's see, invite you to come in but we'll figure out a way so sure enough. And I think probably God had something to do with this. The King happened to notice Esther walking by his quarters and invited her to come and talk to him. And she, Oh, I forgot the most important part of the story. She said to Mordecai before she did this, she said I'm going to fast and pray for three days. Please get everybody else in in the capital city to join me in this fasting and prayer. And I do think that is the most important part of the story. And so everybody joined together, all the Jews in Sousa and Esther fasting and praying that she would be able to talk to Xerxes about this. Well, I'm not going to tell you all the rest of the details, but Esther though Esther does manage to turn things around and Hayman ends up just getting such a big swelled head that he ends up getting home on his own gallows that he had put up to see, to see Mordecai hung on and then eventually Mordecai and Esther and King Xerxes figure out a way that Xerxes needles to say could save face because there's always that aspect and and things that involve authority so that the Jews were not killed and that they were saved. And then it was decided that a holiday should be declared to celebrate this. And that's where Esther's authority comes in because the one, the one of the two places and the Hebrew scriptures that are not in the Apocrypha where the word authority is used because the Hebrew scriptures don't seem to use authority because it's not a concrete enough concept is when this letter is being sent out to, to begin the festival to celebrate the deliverance from this horrible persecution. And Esther puts all of her full authority behind the letter to Institute the festival of Purim to celebrate this festival. The word for authority in that story is the word token, which means positiveness. And I think so often when we're thinking about authority we don't necessarily thinketh. Think of it in terms of positiveness. And so I think it's very touching to realize that this first example and scriptures had something to do with a woman. Now, I think it's kind of interesting to look at this story of a woman's fall from authority Vashti or prominence because the leading men feared her influence over other women. And I'd like to tell just a quick little story and I hope I'm not going on too long about all of this. When I was first married, I was a clergy wife. I was not ordained then. And my husband had an old football playing friend named Lauren Devin, who was a priest in the diocese of California and his wife and I were good friends. And I was the kind of clergy wife that said that I wanted to be independent. And I didn't really like being a clergy wife and one thing and another, and I can remember Lauren saying to George don't you let Katrina spend much time with my wife because I don't want her to get that way.\r\n\r\n- So, we know what Vashti was up against, anyway. It's, it is the dynamic that goes on. And so it was interesting that because she refused to take part in what might have been unseemly proceedings. She was banished from her position of authority and prominence. Probably no women were part of that advisory group. But then I think it's really interesting to note the changing role of women in that short little story. And that's why I was sorry that I left out that important part of the story, because I think it was because of religion that that change took place. And I think this is an example of spiritual quest or development. Esther comes into the story in chapter two as a pretty little powerless girl and eight chapters later, queen Esther, the daughter of Abihail had full authority. How did that change take place? And I think that's something we need to think about when we're talking about authority of men or women in our own time. First of all, she did have beauty and personality but she also had concern for her relatives. And she also had fear. She was frightened about taking the risk to go to her husband and work for her people. But she also had courage to take that risk. And then she used her wits and her ability as a hostess to entertain the emperor and Hayman to pull off the strategy that she developed and for relationship with God. And God's people through prayer and fasting. Now that's not an old fashioned thing. That is a timeless thing that people can still use in our quest for spirituality not only our own relationship with God but our relationship with each other and working together to use our authority together and with the help of God. Those were quite interesting. I feel those were very interesting dynamics of how this authority could take place. There were some other scriptural women whose stories involved the use of the word authority. In other Greek words, not that same tokhev a Hebrew word, meaning a positiveness. And some of these other stories were in the Apocrypha. There was Anna who was Tobit's wife, who was unfairly told that she had no authority to eat stolen and it wasn't stolen food. Using the word authority in a negative sense there. There was Judas who points out to the town leaders who were so worried because they were under siege that maybe they had done something wrong. And that's why all of this was happening. And she said nuts. It doesn't have anything to do with us. It's God who has the authority. And so Judith had the nerve to point out to people that it was God who was the person in charge here via authority completely. And it was interesting that she had that position in that situation. Then there is a section in Sirach, the Wisdom of Sirach where all human beings who were formed by God from the dust were given authority over everything on earth. And this, I think ties in with the changing role of women because what happened to us, we're part of humanity. What happened to us that for many parts of our human history, we were not treated as part of humanity who shared that authority over all of all of the earth, men, human beings Wasn't sharing that. We're not sharing that authority with us, but if we have that authority, how have we, or how are we going to use that authority over everything on earth? And there again, I think that comes into today and we have to realize what and how we're going to use the spiritual authority that has been given to us. The other question we need to ask is do we share that authority with all human beings. Whether we're men or whether we're women, how, you know we can gripe about not receiving the shared authority but we also have to realize who are we leaving out and how are we sharing that authority? I'm going to skip over some of the other scriptural things that I had picked out because I'm just getting too Gabby here. So I'm going to skip up into the the scripture concerning Jesus of Nazareth. And this, one of the, I think she things about authority from Jesus , was opened up by a woman. And this was a woman that some of us like to call mother funder. And there are two stories two places and Christian scripture that refer to this story about authority. One is in Matthew chapter 20 verse 25. And the other is in Mark chapter 10 verse 22, 42. One of them does not mention, the Mark one does not mention the mother at all. And the Matthew one does not mention the names of the mother's sons. And I think that's kind of an interesting difference in the two stories, because names are important with people. Anyway, mother thunder had two sons who were close friends of Jesus. One day, she knelt before Jesus and asked him to say that her sons would sit at his right and left in his realm. Jesus said they didn't know what they were asking. And that the privilege was not his to give. When the 10 other friends of Jesus heard about this request, they were furious. So, Jesus called a meeting and said that national rulers wheeled full privilege and authority over folks, and here is the word authority. And this situation, it was the Greek word, [foreign Language 00:18:23] And it's the word seldom used in secular Greek only used and scriptural and religious. But who ever in this group, this is what Jesus is saying again, the national authorities like to have authority over people, but whoever in this group wants to be great or first will be your servant, or your slave. Jesus went on to point out. I didn't come here to sit around and be waited on but I came here to serve you and to use my life for many, many people. I think this is an important story because I think Jesus is contrasting here the difference between spiritual quest and secular quest for authority. And I think the issues and the possibilities for women here are very very complicated. Is Jesus trying to bring back the balance of authority with which all humanity had been in doubt back in that creation verse from Sirach probably not, but what the woman listener who hadn't asked for recognition for herself, but for her sons feel that the servant role to what she might have been accustomed was elevated or changed by using it as a pass key to greatness. Or would she feel cheated, that Visible authority was withheld from her as usual, even through her sons. This has definitely been an issue for feminists and society and religion. Feminists who wish to be included in roles of authority, even while realizing that these roles as carried out presently are tarnished with negative. And remember Esther's authority word equals positiveness negative oppressive power procedures. Lot of feminists don't want to get into that. Many feminists wish to be included in traditionally male roles while transforming those roles. Back in 1974, when I was first ordained to the priesthood we had a meeting about six months after we were ordained and Bishop Carter again, met with us. And we were grappling with a lot of these issues about authority and about transforming the priesthood and kind of what priesthood meant. And Bishop Corrigan looked at us and he said if you all end up being the same kind of priests that men priests have been forever then I've wasted my time.\r\n\r\n- When he said that to me, don't worry about it. I felt like somebody had hit me right in the middle of the forehead. It hurt that Wasn't really what I wanted to hear. And yet, in spite of the fact that I didn't want to hear it. Those words have stuck with me for the last 15 years as a Lodestar pulling me forward or pulling me who knows where in my search for how I live out my life as an authority or as a person in leadership. And so I, I don't think that's a clear issue as to whether women are going to transform these authority modes or not, or whatever responsibilities are or whether it isn't. Everybody should take part in transforming these authority modes so that they become the Esther positive rather than the negative national authorities that Jesus wasn't too thrilled with and what he was saying. Okay, let's skip over the rest of the scriptural stuff on him getting a little bit long-winded here. I wanted to just say for another place that people can look for feminists or feminine or female aspects of authority as we look into our spiritual quest and remember that our spiritual quest is not just in the future, it's almost a cyclical thing where where we've had dry periods in history and rich periods in history and so we need to look back and see how these patterns are and get ideas from our past because many of those ideas can enrich our futures together. And another place that we can look at role modeling and look at the questions that maybe are raised is in the Christian tradition. We have a tradition of people who have have been recognized as having a specially spiritual lives. People we call saints, and I'm just going to quickly list off a bunch of them so that you can get some ideas. We had Saint Junior who was mentioned in Romans chapter 16, verse seven, who was notable among the apostles, probably a bishop. We have Saint Plataniday, who was a monastic founder in the third century. And we had Saint Olympia who was ordained. We had Saint Nectarios, who served on the cathedral staff and constant nautical before her death in 410. We had Saint Roligan who was the queen and founded a monastic order and was ordained validly, but irregularly, before she died in 587. We had Saint Hilda who founded a famous coeducational monastery at Whitby in the British Isles. It's interesting to note that three of these spiritual leaders founded communities. Are spiritual women still doing that today, successfully? What sorts of communities, what are the needs and possibilities for us. This field at this time, how will that shape our future spirituality? Might it be that we need more corporate spirituality more co-operative spirituality? How have women faired on our spiritual quest in terms of interfaith conversations? I must admit that my space, my my experience is a little bit limited on this. I have done ecumenical work. And so I would trust that if you are interested in in exploring how women have faired on the interface conversational level you'll do a little bit of your own research there. But I found that in reading the final report, for instance, from the Anglican Roman Catholic International Commission women seem to be excluded from what they called the Koinonia communion of the church community, except for the one reference to the Roman Catholic church as 'her' and the Anglican church as 'sister'\r\n\r\n- Then, I found that later on, they said the authority of the church will be mediated through them. Wait a minute, through them, that means community and each of its members, and this is Christian authority when Christians so act and speak, men perceived the authoritative word of Christ. Hmm. Does it matter if women perceive while the community is bearing its responsibility toward all mankind? If women's perceptions roles and responsibilities are not a concern to the men who are presently assuming authority, all members of that International Commission incidentally were man. What is the godly way for such excluded folks to proceed? What is the will of God both for the excluders and for all the excluded? You know, that's a hard question to answer. Well, God does have some surprises. Even though humans can ignore those surprises sometimes, for instance, on page 84 that final document in paragraph eight there was some discussion of the importance of Peter and the other apostles as witnesses to the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Not a word that an each in this document of between Anglicans and Roman Catholics there was not one word that an each of the four gospels the books about Jesus' life the story of Jesus resurrection, that women were mentioned as being the first human witnesses of Jesus returned to human life. Not a word was mentioned in that document. And it was interesting too that those women were performing serving roles which Jesus had said would make you first and gray as they took spices to care for the corpse. Is that why Jesus honored them as first but what happened to their descendants sisters in terms of inclusion and recognition down through the centuries why did their brothers choose to ignore God's surprise and making them, that means the first one making the man! Whoops,.. man the first witnesses. Why did their brothers choose to exclude them from the papacy and from the recognized ordained ministries or maybe choose to bury the history of their early sharing of those roles. Anyway, how can we go on from that exclusion and work together now. In 1985, the Anglican and Orthodox Christian joint-doc final commission decided that they could still talk in spite of the fact that there were problems such as the ordination of women. You know, that's how these interfaith discussions go. And then in 1972 and the Lutheran Episcopal dialogue they did talk about women's priestly ministry as baptized or as was acknowledged, even though a episcopal the Episcopal church was not yet ordaining women to the priesthood. However, the document itself is loaded with such words as fellowship men, men and mankind. So women weren't currently involved in that either. Anyway, there, there are more ecumenical more interfaith things sort of along the same lines. It's interesting to notice that in the Jewish Christian dialogue documents they were prom primarily concerned with language and process of working together. Women and men were neither included nor excluded. Authority and roles were not even issues. The emphasis seemed to be that both of our traditions are living and developing. And I think that's something for us all to be proud of and to rejoice in that maybe those are the more important issues than some of the other issues that become so negative. If we can be positive as we search for the kind of spirituality that we want in the future. And so I think that we, as far as my input is concerned, I I really want to just leave you with that thumbnail sketch of some of the things that have gone on in our history the positive things and the negative things. And I think that if in our question and answer period we can all together grapple with some of the futures and some of the ways that we can ensure that all of us can work together on forming, what's going to happen in our own spirituality as individuals and in our corporate spirituality as we all try to work together and with God for the future. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you Katrina Swanson. My name is Abe Stein. I'm president of the Ames Jewish congregation. And I guess I'd like to welcome everyone to the third annual dialogue. And before I get any further, I think we ought to recognize the committee that put this all together for the very excellent work. I know from the Ames Jewish Congregation Dave Gradwell and .. Barbara Pleasance. Who else? How about the, how about Saint Davids? Any of the committee here? Oh! Thank you. As a lay person, I have often wondered about this disparity with all of the, having grown up in a, an Orthodox household and hearing of all the female heroes, as well as the male heroes in our background. Also wondered why women took such a subordinate role in this religion. So again, I compliment the committee for having chosen very well. Our second speaker tonight, Devorah Jacobson Rabbi Devorah Jacobson is a native of, Miami, Florida. She received a Bachelor of Arts from Brandeis university. Attended the Hebrew Union College Institute of religion in New York, and was ordained rabbi in May of 1982. She also attended the Manager Foundation and the subjects of graduate ma.. marriage, a graduated based program, marriage and family therapy, And has participated in a very long list of human services in the St Louis area, where she is associated with the she's associate executive director of the B'nai B'rith Hillel foundation, serving all of the colleges and universities in the St. Louis area. Well, I won't go through the long list of accomplishments of this person. And in the interest of time I think I will present Rabbi Jacobson at this point.\r\n\r\n- Thank you for the kind introduction. I'm honored to be here and flattered to have been invited. Traditionally before I teach, I like to start with a blessing and given that the new month or the new moon in the Jewish calendar which is a lunar calendar, begins this Friday and Saturday the month of Iyar. I'd like to begin with with the blessing for the new moon. And it's also an example of new liturgy which Jewish women are writing. So I thought that was appropriate to include and I'll wait until everybody has a page. Also on the page that you're getting is a, a reading called Apple source by Judith Plaskow. We don't have time, but I hope you'll read it on your own. It's an example of what I'll be referring to as new Midrash or new stories that women and men are writing based on the biblical text and which reflects certain modern and I think feminist sensibilities. So, beginning with the, on the green page, 'Welcoming the new moon of Iyar', Then the rabbi said the secret of wisdom, Chokhmah, is in the name of the moon, when blessed from every side. Then the moon began to, then the moon began to wane. So after we have inherited the moon in its fullness, we desire to inherit it in its defective state, to gain knowledge of spirits and demons inheriting the moon on every side. And whoever would like to join with me in the actual blessing please do.\r\n\r\n- Blessed it is our God creator of the heaven and the earth. You have ordained that each month the moon be renewed as a woman's body. Both are a source of strength for those who are bearing the burdens of this life, for they are the symbol of hope then all maybe reborn to new life. [foreign language 00:37:38] Blessed is our God, who renews the months. Amen. Our topic this evening is women in the spiritual quest issues and possibilities. The topic itself, I suspect maybe an issue for some. Indeed, for many Jews, I suspect for most modern people, the notion of a spiritual quest is an issue, if not a problem. It's a phrase that makes us feel uneasy. As Jews our concerns and agendas throughout this century have been highly secular. Jewish refugees had to be saved, antisemites had to be opposed. A Jewish state had to be re-established and nurtured. Oppressed Jews in the Soviet union and Ethiopia and elsewhere had to be helped. We could not allow the Holocaust to be forgotten. Highly important tasks, all of these but highly agnostic, the spiritual life, the quest for a life with God has been peripheral to our ongoing concerns, peripheral perhaps even in our synagogues. Since the end of the 18th century with the political emancipation of Jews from ghetto existence, most Jews have undergone a steady process of secularization. Now, at the end of the 20th century, we realize how much more modern we are than Jewish. How much we are as one rabbi put it, 'A community in search of a faith'. Now 200 years after we emerged to participate in the life and the thought of the West, we feel and see signs all around us pointing to the spiritual emptiness of the West. We hear voices around us searching for the new age and the last dimension of the spiritual. Now 200 years after religion was assigned to its own little cubbyhole to make way for secular society. The role of religion is being reconsidered and re-evaluated. As Abraham Maslow has written about the place of religion in our schools and education, which leaves untouched, the entire region of transcendental thought is an education which has almost nothing to say about the meaning of life. Within society at large other religions in general and Judaism to be sure, there is a call for renewal. And furthermore a quest to redeem the spiritual. There is a movement that wants to go beyond the Judaism, we learned about in Sunday school, the Judaism of reason and rationality, beyond the Judaism which was equated solely with ethics. A move is underway to explore the dimension of the non rational, the mythic, the mystical, the experiential, to talk about faith and God. To recover that which for so long has been repressed, including the elements and of the feminine. And so it will, it is within this context that I begin the discussion of women and the spiritual quest within Judaism, because a major part of the movement of renewal of Judaism and Jewish life is concerned with and spurred on by the inclusion of the life experiences and voices of Jewish women, as they go in quest of the divine. What have Jewish feminists had to say. What have been their concerns and their questions and how have they created a theology that is both Jewish and feminists. We begin with the understanding, that the major experience which many Jewish women have of Judaism, is marginality. Excluded by Halakhak, Jewish law from participation in the public roles of the synagogue, alienated by masculine language referring to divinity overlooked by lifecycle rituals which view women as passive or invisible, women are viewed by normative Judaism as other. In fact, a whole section of the Mishna, the first code of Jewish law, is devoted to legislation for and about women. And it assumes a view of women as abnormal and irregular and therefore requiring special sanctification. Ours is a tradition created by men, interpreted by men passed down from father to some. All the classical normative sources of Jewish theology were created by for men. Women's voices are hard to discern. And the theological visions we have received are incomplete. From early on women experience moments of exclusion, moments of feeling as an outsider. They are told, you don't count in a Minyan prayer quorum. You don't have to say Kaddish for your loved ones, Kaddish being the Memorial prayer. And be careful less your voice arouse men in prayer. You can't initiate a divorce, a religious divorce and you can't serve as witnesses in a court of Jewish law. From early on, women experience a feeling of betrayal by their people, their tradition, and their God. Betty Freidan in her writing talks of first stage and second stage feminism, to appropriate her language, the first stage of Jewish feminism, roughly coinciding with the decade of the seventies moved towards correcting women's marginality by asserting that women should be included where we had previously been excluded. Arguing on the grounds of simple justice, women demanded to have equal access to positions of leadership and authority. The questions of the first stage were questions of equality and equal access. Can women be rabbis? Can women be counted in a minion? Can women read Torah? Can women say Kaddish? For the most part, these first stage questions, were questions of Jewish law and tradition. All these concerns parallel the first stage of secular feminism. The era, equal pay for comparable work, the opening up of predominantly male professions to women. In both the Jewish and secular realms, what had been labeled male was still understood as the norm, women wanted to be counted within the male model. While the questions and struggles of the first stage remained unfinished in both the secular and the Jewish world. We are seeing the second stage unfolding. The second stage moves beyond questions of equal access, to questions of spirituality. Beyond the male model to different models and an exploration of a different way of thinking and acting. The second stage begins by asserting that women are not other, that women's experiences are Jewish experiences, even though they have been ignored by sacred texts in our history. The questions of the second stage are not, can there be women rabbis and cantors, but in what ways will women be leaders of the spirit? What models of leadership will they adopt or create? In what ways will women in religion transform Jewish spirituality. Here, we tried to better understand more about the differences between men and women. 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Women are more likely to be concerned with such questions as who is hurt and who is left out? Then with such questions as, what are the rules? From Gilligan and others, we will learn more about men in leadership, men and women in leadership as well as how men and women's approaches to spirituality will be different. But there is more to say on this topic. A friend of mine tells the story of the time at the conclusion of High Holy Day Services during her first year as an ordained rabbi, two congregants rushed up to talk to her. The first, a middle-aged woman blurted out, \"Rabbi, I can't tell you how different I feel about services because you are a woman. I found myself feeling that if you can be a woman, ah, that if you can be a rabbi, then maybe I could be a rabbi too. For the first time in my life I felt as though I could learn those prayers, I could study Torah, I could lead the service, I could do anything you could do. Also, the service made me think about God in a different way, I'm not sure why.\" The second congregant, a man in his late twenties took her aside and said, \"Rabbi, I realized that if you could be a rabbi, then certainly I could be a rabbi.\" \"Knowing that made the service somehow more accessible for me. I didn't need you to do it for me, I could do it. Be involved with Jewish tradition without depending on you.\" What are we to make of these two conversations? It seems that when women function as clergy, something happens. People experience her as less foreign, perhaps. The experience is more natural or accessible. In general, people don't attribute to women the power and prestige that they often attribute to men. Therefore, when women become rabbis or priests, there is often less social distance between the congregant and the clergy. The lessening of social distance and the reduction of the attribution of power and status can lead to the breakdown of hierarchy within a religious institution. If you can be a rabbi, then certainly I can be a rabbi. Clearly, some would argue that the breakdown of traditional religious hierarchy is bad. However, many of us would say that such a change could bring about a more profound and welcome situation. It could lead to synagogues that see their rabbi, not as professional Jew or authoritarian leader, but as a teacher in the best sense of the Jewish tradition. And then see the congregations not as passive consumers of the rabbi's wisdom, but as active participants in their own Jewish lives. Furthermore, for as long as the rabbi has been a man, a Jew has often projected the image of the rabbi onto God. But when Jews encounter a rabbi who is a woman, it forces them to think about God as more than male, more than female. It provokes them to raise questions like what or who is God? What do I believe about God? Perhaps these questions and more can lead us to consider a more authentic relationship to Jewish tradition and to God. In the second stage, we look carefully at liturgy and specifically at the language of our prayers and the ways we talk to God. Since tomorrow's talk is devoted to this subject, I will only briefly mention it here. In this stage, we confront the dominance of masculine imagery in Jewish prayer and we ask, is it enough to substitute pronouns to say, God She, instead of God He? What other images are available to us in our tradition? How can we express our kinship with God? But the issue of the maleness of God language does not end there. It moves us to question the nature of the God we pray to. How do we think about God? Where do we find God in our experience? Is God up there, transcendent above it all? Is God near us, within us, close by within each person, and thing and tree we see? What images will most powerfully evoke and express the reality of God in our lives? In this stage, we will also question the very notion of the Canon of the Prayer Book. For we will ask, how have women prayed in the past? Are there women's prayers that we too can use and incorporate into the Prayer Book? And we will ask, are there not prayers and blessings that we can write that speak of God and that speak of our own experiences and our own quest for the divine? What does it mean to make changes in the liturgy? What are the risks? Where will we find communities to save them in? In the second stage, women have had an intense interest in ritual. We have asked, what is ritual and from whence comes it's power? For as women, many of us are moved by ritual and by it's power to transform. We recognize that ritual by the very nature of its repetitiveness and predictability triggers deep and cognitive responses within us associated with spirituality. We recognize that among other things, ritual makes profound statements about our values and our place in the social and religious order. In this stage, we have looked for, rediscovered, recovered, reinterpreted or invented rituals that speak to and reflect our experience. Sometimes we have taken traditional forms, like the celebration of Rosh Hodesh, the new moon. Seen by our tradition as a women's holiday, but long forgotten in practice. Because of its connection to the moon and monthly cycles of fertility, we are experimenting all over the country in small Rosh Hodesh groups with a mix of old and new symbols and prayers. We have, for example, reclaimed the mikvah, the ancient ritual bath for spiritual immersion. And we use it now for feminine rituals of rebirth. We have brought a new focus to Passover with the Feminist Seder where we seek to tell the story, Haggadah by building on the theme of liberation to make women's experience and struggle and issue for all to discuss. In this stage we ask, not only whether women can participate in traditional celebration of rituals, but do these express women's deepest spiritual feelings? What must we do to become shapers of the Holy? As a friend of mine asked upon the death of her mother, how have Jewish women traditionally mourned their mothers? Are their customs or obligations which women exempt from saying Kaddish have developed to observe and to go through mourning. If there are not, can we shape new responses? So at times if we cannot recover or rediscover, we do invent. So that the tradition expands to speak to the moments of life that are especially part of a woman's experience. Giving birth, weaning, rearing children, having an abortion, experiencing a miscarriage or menopause. We remember and we invent because ritual helps us come close to God's healing powers and presence. In this stage we ask, how can ritual help deepen the spiritual lives of men and women together as they experience together, infertility, sexuality, adoption, parenting and empty nest. And here we begin to sense where feminist religious thought can take us. For feminist, Judaism will mean not only the restoration of women, but the recovery of the feminine element in other's fears as well. Such as the ways we relate to the environment, the earth and our place on it. Arthur Wallace Scott puts it this way, \"We need to hear the true Torah which teaches the necessity of rhythm of making Chavez, of pausing to take a breath, to rest, to meditate, to contemplate, especially the need to pause from incessant, exploitive economic development. Not to end development but to pause long enough to sense again its limitations, its purpose and its owner. In the last decade or so, we have come to see the 300 years of life without a Shavuot has brought us near the edge of killing the human race and poisoning the biosphere. The world is teaching us that if we will not stop ourselves in a chord with Torah by making Shavuot, by allowing things to live fallow and renew, we will stop ourselves by catastrophic force. The sense of biological and social rhythm. The week, the month, the sabbatical year, the Jubilee year, may very well have come into our tradition out of some matriarchs closely sensing of her body and of mother earth. We need to hear that teaching. In the second stage we ask, not can women read Torah in public, but what about the essence of Torah itself? In light of our concerns we struggle with what Torah means and with what it is. And some would say the task is impossible. That the central text of the Jewish spiritual tradition is neither a tree of life nor a wellspring of redemptive waters. That it is contaminated beyond repair. That the Hebrew Bible itself seems to supply the very models for women's oppression. That makes it urgent to assign it to the annals of our distant archeological past and get on with the issues of contemporary change. For many though, this is not possible. It is not possible with most things, including our own lives to create a present in dramatic discontinuity with the past. Much less with a religious tradition, much less with the tradition as text centered as ours. And so like feminist historians with secular history, we too go searching for women's voices and experiences, for our mothers and sisters and heroes like Vashti, for the element of the feminine in Torah. We go exploring with new eyes, noticing images or stories or details we've never noticed before. Reading between the lines to find our history. For we realized that history, including religious history has been written by the male elite and that the voices and traditions of women and men not in the elite was suppressed by those with power and authority. We go God wrestling as one writer put it, \"Bringing to Torah the questions that reflect our own unique concerns, struggling to discover new layers of meaning. But this after all is an old Jewish tradition, is it not? By the process of re-interpretation and allegorical interpretation and symbolic understanding. Jews have always brought their ideas to the sacred texts. But the rabbis of old, we assume the infinite meaningfulness of biblical texts. We take passages that are troubling or sketchy, and we write them forward. We recognize as they did no doubt that writing and interpreting is a way to shape the world. And so we create Midrash together and individually, orally and in writing, we tell new stories and we retell old stories that connect our ancient history with our lives in the present. We tell, for example, the story of the binding of Isaac, but this time from Sarah's perspective. Because otherwise we have in the Bible only half the story, perhaps Abraham does believe that God wants him to sacrifice Isaac. But Sarah in a new Midrash, believes that their God is a God of love not cruelty and would never have placed such a demand upon them. And perhaps those who hear such commands should question whether they have heard God correctly, or retell the story like the one that you now have, Apple source. The story of Adam and Eve and the other woman, Lilith in the garden of Eden, exploring particularly the relationships between the women in the garden. We will hear the story of Hagar are in a new way and in doing so tell the story of all bad ladies and surrogate mothers everywhere. We retell the story of Miriam who with her well, nurtured and gave leadership to the generation of the desert. We reread the Exodus story and discover that it is women who nurture the revolution. But it is the midwives Shiphrah and Puah who are the first conscientious objectors standing up for the preservation of human life. Feminist biblical scholar, Phyllis Trible writes, \"A patriarchal religion which creates and preserves feminist traditions like these, contain resources for overcoming patriarchy. And it is new interpretive work like hers that continues to help us reread scripture to find ourselves in our own experiences in the tests. To uncover the essence and richness of biblical faith without sexism. But here too we will ask fundamentals of our faith, for what is Torah? Is it the five books alone? What of our own newly created Midrash? Will we consider that Torah as well? Was revelation a one-time event only at Sinai or are there many Sinai's? Many events of revelation that occur even in our lifetime. Once again, authority is questioned. The absoluteness, the fixed nature of Torah is questioned. The very authority that suppressed women's voices, the authority that created the traditions that we want to be part of is the very authority that we question and challenge. In certain ways these questions are not new and not intrinsic to women's experience. The rabbis themselves by putting forward the notion of two Torahs given at Mount Sinai, seem to be saying that the written Torah by its very nature was incomplete. Needing completion by the teachings of the oral tradition. Revelation they seem to be saying, wasn't ongoing process. In modern times too, Liberal Jews have questioned the Canon of Torah and choose to see revelation as an ongoing experience and the Canon of Torah as wider, much wider than the five books. As one Israeli educator said, \"What is Torah? Anything that helps young people to live purposefully that is Torah.\" Someone said that the feminist challenge is not necessarily different than others, we have faced throughout Jewish history. The Jewish thought has often succeeded in integrating and responding to other systems of fog, whether it has been Aristotelian philosophy or narcissism or pantheism, they would say that one of the things that characterizes Judaism has been as tremendous flexibility and openness to a wide range of theological speculation. Others would say, we are at the edge of something more radical, a new paradigm like at the time of the destruction of the temple in 70 CE. One that leads us to question and rethink all the fundamentals of Jewish faith. They would say like Judith Plaskow, that women cannot be fully part of Judaism without a complete transformation of Jewish life. For many if not for most, what I have been describing here, particularly the issues of the second stage may sound foreign. It may feel like it goes too far from that which we expect and look for in our religious life, namely the connectedness and rootedness to the past. The authenticity that comes from being a part of a long chain of tradition with all its time honored rituals and symbols. As one student responded when I described to her some of the new prayers feminists have written which we'll look at tomorrow. \"Wow, I didn't know you could do that.\" And then in the very next breath she said, \"But it would be weird to say those words because they wouldn't be traditional.\" New approaches to ritual and liturgy and texts will raise questions about tradition. Questions about unity, questions about authenticity, all of which reminds us of the problems and possibilities before us. To my students and to myself I asked, what kind of function will religion play in our lives? Will it serve a conservative function to preserve and to anchor? Or will it play a creative role? Not only being shaped by but actively shaping the tradition we call ours. The movement of renewals speaks to the all, to men and to women, for all of who seek the dimension of the spiritual. Judith Plaskow writes it this way, \"The most profound, intriguing and inviting of all Jewish theologies, the Kabbalah Jewish mysticism, teaches us that exile is the fundamental reality of present day existence. It teaches that one of the causes of exile is the alienation of the masculine from the feminine in God. The alienation of God and the shekhinah. But it also teaches especially in its later phases, that each of us can participate in healing the world by dedicating all of our efforts to the reunification of God and the shekhinah. Now that the masculine and feminine have been torn asunder, such work of healing is a mitzvah, a religious command. When the masculine and the feminine aspects of God have been reunited and the female half of humanity has been returned from exile, we will begin to have our healing. The world will then be repaired.\"\r\n\r\n- Let's see at this time we'd like to entertain questions from the forum, maybe it'd be better if the two of you came up here and bring your chairs with you so you can feel comfortable.\r\n\r\n- Okay, I guess we should monitor-\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- For my question where by, there's the Yiddish prayers, this is your question, like the other ways of a woman's prayerful and now I don't assume it, but\r\n\r\n- Yes and those prayers often in Yiddish, I suspect those prayers were in Yiddish?\r\n\r\n- Absolutely.\r\n\r\n- Often the women's prayers that we are uncovering now were written in Yiddish. Women were often not educated to, they didn't learn Hebrew but they knew Yiddish. And so they wrote the prayers that were their own examples of spirituality, their own prayers in the language that they knew in Yiddish. We have sent out, we ran out, we have different anthologies of those prayers and now we are learning more about them and asking wouldn't we want to include those as well in the Prayer Book? In other words, how did the prayers that we have in the Prayer Book get there? And since the prayer book itself developed over several thousand years, maybe we wanna consider now including some of those prayers. Just like in the 16th century, we included the prayers of the mystics and it's an anthology. And so those prayers in Yiddish we're now considering them as part of the Canon of the Jewish Prayer Book.\r\n\r\n- Okay, yes Ian.\r\n\r\n- Well, back to the bar, though Yiddish is relatively recent, were there any older evidence of similar kinds of writings?\r\n\r\n- We can uncover Hannah's prayer examples from the Bible itself focusing in on someone like Hannah on her prayer and beseeching of God for a child. That's there, the Torah would elaborates on that even further. We just haven't focused on those things. If we were to read the texts with new eyes, the feeling is that we would find even within the tradition written by men for men more examples, at least we could have something to begin with. The Lilith I mentioned Lilith, there is a tradition, how many have heard about Lilith? Okay, so many of you know Lilith that's a part of Jewish folklore. And the example that I gave you is written by Judith Plaskow. That's kind of a contemporary story about Lilith. In other words, the traditional Lilith is that story is written to kind of put Lilith down because she was such an assertive woman and did want equality with Adam in the garden. And so the Folklore is not only did she fly away and leave the garden, but she then went on to become a demonise and to kill Jewish babies, hundreds and thousands. And that's why in medieval times, as part of the folklore culture people would put emulates on creeps. Because of this notion of the Lilith of feminine demonise that would come to destroy the babies. So it was a negative Lilith was turned into a negative. Judith Plaskow recaptures the tradition of Lilith but recasts it in a more positive theme.\r\n\r\n- Okay, other questions. Okay Ian, sure.\r\n\r\n- I'm sorry. I'm wondering, when was the first ordination in your church?\r\n\r\n- In the Anglican Church worldwide, a woman priest was ordained in China on the Island of, actually in China for the Island of Macau in 1943. And the church was so horrified by this that she agreed to withdraw from functioning as a priest after the war. And she has since then rediscovered and celebrated. She's now shifted that was 40, more than 40 years ago, her name is Florence Li Tim-Oi. In the United States, the first event of course, the second wave of women were again ordained in Hong Kong this time in 1971. And it's so we're very, we have a great debt to our sisters in China. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Who did the ordaining?\r\n\r\n- Why is this all happening in the areas? Talk about that.\r\n\r\n- I think I can't give you a, I can just give you my ideas on that. I think maybe the people there were practical and realized that these women were needed. Florence Li Tim-Oi was the only, she was the deacon then, was the only person who could, ordained person who could get in and out. The men were not able to pass through the Japanese seven enemy lines. And she had a very thriving ministry there and the people desperately needed her priestly ministry. And so she went on a very long and arduous and dangerous trip through enemy lines over the mountains to meet in a pre-arranged meeting with Bishop Hall of China or Hong Kong. And he examined her and they had a retreat and then he ordained her so it was a great personal risk. And obviously it was a godly act. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, just a commentary on that after having looked in the third world. I think you'll find third world peoples are much more open to women in professional religion, leadership positions religion than in the first world and it may be because in some of those societies are matriarchal societies although they claim to be macho cultures, but the backbone of those cultures are the women. That's true. I have a question for you. I recently attended a workshop in the Moines and there was a feminist from Chicago and it was brought up, how are women to get involved in the hierarchy in the Roman Catholic church? And she said, \"Oh, we're not interested in that because that is filled with power and is filled with the prestige and we're going to leave that to the men. If they want it, they can have it.\" \"And we will pursue another way, a way where authority is self-evident.\" And one comes to mind two people, Dorothy Day who served the poor in New York and Mother Teresa of Calcutta who serves the poor in India. Two women who could walk into the office of any president in the world or address any assembly on the basis of what they gave up their heart and which and it's been talked about, but they should be then the way for women to establish their credentials today. And that's fine for extraordinary women, but what about ordinary women? Okay, do they know destiny?\r\n\r\n- Well, this is the complicated issue that I alluded to earlier and I got that from my contact with leading Roman Catholic Women, especially in the seventies who felt that they did not wanna fall into the traps of the power things. And I see this especially happening in the Anglican Church, the Episcopal Church now today is getting far more centralized and a higher titles more precise titles and tightness is really happening. And I think this is a dangerous thing. I think it's also happening in our secular society. I think of the fact that you can't have a bank account without a social security number is something that's very dangerous in our culture. And I think that's related to this negation of the hierarchy by women who have their eyes open pretty wide. I don't know how I personally feel about that because I feel that I'm a little bit like Bishop cordon saying to us, I think if we have the opportunity to get within some of these structures and try to help I don't, that's a little arrogant to say...\r\n\r\n- Hmm.\r\n\r\n- To help clean them up, that's better. But I also think, and I was searching while you were talking about Dorothy Day and Mother Teresa. There's certainly must be men who have done similar things without titles on the door and Bigelow on the floor who can walk into presidential offices. And it's back to what Christians boss told us to do which is to serve. How boring it is to sit around with our Bigelows on the floor and have everybody else doing all the fun things. I really don't think that's as much fun as getting out there and getting your hands dirty and being with people. And that's on a spiritual playing and honest and honest serving plane and on just being part of this planet and assuming race, that's where it's at. So sure we can be bishops or we can be priests or we can be garbage collectors. We're all working together for this wonderful earth that God has given all of us authority over.\r\n\r\n- Excuse me.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- We do have men and women in powerful places like the, oh, Golda-\r\n\r\n- Margaret Thatcher, Golda Meir, certainly.\r\n\r\n- So there must be some roots for other women.\r\n\r\n- I think women and men are all human. And the main thing is we have a variety of vision, of function, of spirituality. And some of that variety is really very, very good. But some of it we have to be very careful and transformed. That's the arrogant word I was looking for. I don't know whether that's the answer you wanted.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- A couple of things that came up here were interesting podcasts between Jewish and Christianities and different roles and opportunities for the women. One is the maternal duties and quarters in Christianity referred to duty, otherwise if the duty goodness lacks the prior for Scripture, and so the way that the opportunities and the charges and\r\n\r\n- Someone wanna take that one?\r\n\r\n- You take it out.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, one thing I haven't mentioned in my talk is the whole system of Jewish law and whether there's an Orthodox Jews here to really represent that position. It would be even more controversial. I think what I had to say, because really that whole system it's not, it is a hierarchy in a sense. And you see I haven't talked much about it, but in a sense it is a hierarchy in the sense that there is a legal system and it has it's run by, and represented by men and for women that want to be part of that system traditional Jews. It becomes much more of a problem to want to be part of that system and to want to be a feminist or hold onto some of those values because the Jewish Legal System in and of itself is done by us, is interpreted by is promulgated by men. Women cannot serve as witnesses, women can not be judges. Women are not at the at least at this point the decisors, they do not decide Jewish Law. That's all done by men. So for people who are part of that system that's an even more difficult thing to get into. And I didn't really represent that very much, but so it may not be a hierarchy to be a decisor or to be a posek one, needs merely to be very knowledgeable on Jewish law. It's not an inherited kind of a position. So I would just kind of throw that out to make it a little more difficult, and so that doesn't seem so easy.\r\n\r\n- What you were saying gave me a response to what your question is, why would women want to be in a hierarchy or authority rather than just be that Dorothy Day, that just be or aspire to be Dorothy Day, the other direction? And I think that's the answer. Will be that it is the people in a hierarchy, and we're going to-\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Make sure of this.\r\n\r\n- Make the chapel?\r\n\r\n- To do what you mentioned, give up another view point, bring this whole point out. Dorothy Day and Mother Teresa can not do that again.\r\n\r\n- So we need one another, good. We compliment one another, okay. Yes, final question.\r\n\r\n- I had a question throughout I think since I would, and I wondered if you could expand a little bit on, and I forget the exact word to use, but this recapture, regain the Mikvah the ritual path which I was aware was apparently both coming back and reform Judaism. I would just be interested in your perspective on that particularly, vis a vis the Reformed Judaism.\r\n\r\n- Well, I hate to put things in categories and the movement for Jewish renewal does too, because somehow those categories have limited us in terms of our possibilities you see. Because sometimes when you say your reform, it conjures up in people's minds, things that you don't do. And the movement for renewals is much more interested in what are all those possibilities out there, especially the ones that we've thrown out that maybe we can reclaim or reconsider, okay? So I have a problem personally speaking in category in terms of the labels. With the mikvah it's being used now by women as part of women's rituals to mark points of renewal in your lives. For example, I don't do this, but a friend of mine in St. Louis who is in a congregation, does this. She has been approached by women who have gone through certain experiences in their lives, generally very painful experiences. And sometimes it's a matter of age, they're at a point where they kind of see themselves as they're at a different stage of their lives, and they wish to mark those points by a ritual. And that it seems appropriate for them to do as one element of the ritual to immerse in the ritual bath as a way of kind of saying the old is in the past and I am onto a new stage. I am kind of renewing myself, whether I'm age 60 and I'm at a new stage of growth and development whether it's because, I have suffered certain things in my life and I wanna experience the healing powers of the water of the mikvah and that those are leading me to rebirth. It's really the same thing we go through every year with Yom Kippur, okay? Yom Kippur the Day of Atonement is really, it really represents a day of death and rebirth. That is why traditionally we were a Kittle, the death shrouds, okay? And I know that sounds weird, but I'm just kind of explaining that that's what conceptually the day of atonement is. We asked forgiveness for our sins, we dress in white. It is as if we are going through a death and emerging at the end of a very long day of fasting and prayer and emerging a new, it's rebirth. Okay, so that's the same concept that we're doing with these rituals. It's a way of kind of going through the old or saying the old is part of us, but we're kind of moving on and we want to experience the rebirth that a ritual can help us experience. So I appreciate your question about reform, but I purposely stay away from it because see the ideas that in Reform Judaism you don't use the mikvah. Okay, like when I have to take a convert through conversion, and we go to the mikvah people say \"But your reform. why do you use the mikvah?\" Okay, in my feeling is these are all rituals that are there that can be very powerful and which sometimes can give meaning to our lives. Sometimes they can't. And so we exclude them, but very often they can. And in particular Reform Judaism has in its early classical stages, made a very conscious decision to dispense with ritual, with many rituals in order to stay in the more rational sphere of religiosity. I think there's a new thinking within reform that's going on now. And many people are wanting to kind of reclaim some of those symbols and traditions that were cast off.\r\n\r\n- I have a question for about the Jewish. You seem to be talking a lot about women's roles as slightly different or women's rituals and things like that. Aren't you or are you going to talk about the problem which is that by definition in the society and most of history if something becomes feminized, it therefore becomes inferior, for example, secretaries where the man would tell when secretaries were women or not when they advance?\r\n\r\n- Maybe that's why I'm with reluctant to flop it over. I really think that the hope is for all of us working together and not to compartmentalize. And one of the things that I feel really strongly about is when we talk about imaging God which we really haven't talked about very much tonight. I hope that as we try to get closer to God, we can take God out of the boxes of images, because I think images tend to narrow down the scope of the God that's infinite that should not be narrowed down. And so to go along with the giving God a lot of space so that we can, I think we can really in the long run, get closer to God if we don't narrow those images down. Unfortunately, I think images were maybe brought into being to help us get closer to God. And therefore, I think if we try not to feminize anything or masculinized everything but just say interesting, I used the word everything and anything accidentally just then, so that even those of us who are working in the field, quote, unquote, we slip into those little ways. But I think if we can humanize ourselves and realize that men have lots of variety, I keep trying to tell people, women are just like men. We're different from each other. We're not all gonna be alike. And so if we can focus on being together, working together and as Dom Helder Camara of Brazil said, \"Cut down the divisions.\" So nobody has to be first and second class, so we can all work together as God's friends. That's where I think it's a, by the way I forgot to put in a plug, I've got some books for sale back there for $15. Don't feel you have to buy them but if anybody is interested there's a can back there, just put the money in it. It's a book that George and I republishes about the ordination of women. It was written by a man in the twenties about ordination of women in England. They still don't have women priests there. And George has written a forward and a catch up thing at the end telling a little bit of a history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40528/file/112194#t=0.0,2812.89143"}]}]}]}