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past,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518#t=2775.54,2778.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518/transcript/29910/annotation/979","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I do not think that they came anywhere close","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518#t=2778.51,2780.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518/transcript/29910/annotation/980","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to finessing that central problem in their motivation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518#t=2780.47,2784.563"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518/transcript/29910/annotation/981","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think exploring Mars for scientific reasons","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518#t=2786.81,2790.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518/transcript/29910/annotation/982","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and potentially even for cultural 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it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518#t=2796.06,2798.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518/transcript/29910/annotation/985","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not sure I wanna send these folks to Mars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518#t=2798.24,2801.064"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518/transcript/29910/annotation/986","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(crowd 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Before introducing him, let me remind you that there will be more lectures in this series. Tomorrow evening at 8:00 p.m., Friday at noon, also in this room, and then there will be a whole-day conference on Saturday, which will be a very good opportunity to pursue the topics of these talks in some more detail. And flyers with all the more detailed information are on the back table by the books. The conference on Saturday will be upstairs in the Paeonia Room. Before introducing the speaker, I would like to acknowledge the institutions and organizations that have made this lecture possible, the Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences in Berkeley, California, the Iowa Space Grant Consortium, the following academic departments, Physics and Astronomy, History, Journalism and Mass Communication, and Geological and Atmospheric Sciences, also the Office of the Vice Provost for Undergraduate Education, and the ISU Committee on Lectures. I hope you can stay and join us for refreshments after this lecture. And now, Michael Dahlstrom from the Department of Journalism and Mass Communication will introduce the speaker.\r\n\r\n- I am pleased to introduce your speaker for tonight, an esteemed science reporter from The Washington Post, he wrote the column, \"The Way Things Are,\" which has served as the basis for three published books. He's also worked on the Miami Herald and currently writes a column entitled, \"The Rough Draft,\" and is also working on a book about the future of everything. And tonight, he's going to tell you how to avoid getting captured by aliens. So now, I am proud to introduce Joel Achenbach.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Michael, and Professor, that was the first time in my life that anyone has ever pronounced my name correctly. It's Achenbach, it's a miracle. I worked for three years, can y'all hear me, I know it's noisy in the back with the people practicing something in the other room, can you hear me okay in the back? I spent three years working on aliens, thinking about aliens, writing about aliens, and I've spent most of the last year writing about the presidential candidates. And this was a surprisingly easy transition. There really are some remarkable similarities, in both the extraterrestrial life issue and in presidential politics, you're constantly wondering, \"Well, is this true, \"can I believe this person, \"is this just pandering, \"is this person just telling me what I want to hear?\" And I do think that if one of the candidates is an alien, well, you know it's Gore. I mean, you know it's Gore, 'cause when they created him, they didn't get human speech quite right, the technology of human speech, he speaks too fast sometimes, doesn't blink enough, he doesn't know how to fidget, you look at the guy, you think, \"Something here is not quite right.\" But it's funny, Gore thinks about extraterrestrial life, he's actually someone who, when he's not out there pandering about heating oil, he goes back and he thinks about things like the future of the Earth and extraterrestrial life, and actually, tomorrow night, I think you have Steve Dick who will be talking here, who, in addition to being one of the most knowledgeable people ever about this topic, going back to the ancient Greeks, about the topic of extraterrestrial life, Steve was at a conference that Gore hosted at the White House in 1996, in December of '96, about the idea of extraterrestrial life. And what you notice about that is that he had it in December of '96, he had like a month after the election, trust me, you will not hear Al Gore talking about aliens on a stump out there. You can count on it. I sent him a copy of my book, I don't know if y'all saw this coming in, it's called, \"Captured by Aliens.\" I sent him a copy, a nice engraved copy, 'cause I've interviewed him before and I've gone jogging with Tipper, it's a true story. We went jogging together and ended up jumping in Lake Michigan together, long story. But anyway, I sent him a copy of the book and I thought, \"No, the moment he gets this \"his aides are gonna throw this in the burn bag. \"There's no way he's gonna be photographed \"reading this book with that title.\" So you should find out from Steve, tomorrow night, exactly what the vice president said about the aliens. And Steve also has a book I was reading on the airplane that he contributed to, called, \"When SETI Succeeds,\" who knows what SETI is, I assume everyone knows what SETI is, most people? SETI is the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. But there was one line in here that caught my eye, and I'm gonna point this out, it says, \"At some point, we may switch to active SETI, \"sending encoded signals \"rather than passively receiving them.\" In other words, beaming messages out into space. Now, I've been hanging out with these candidates, and these people are not gonna do this, okay, they are not gonna send messages into outer space, 'cause it's just, it's not a winning platform. And in fact, it has been tried in the past with very, very poor results. I understand this is the third best water in America. If anyone knows what two and one is, let me know. There were three attempts really to communicate with aliens in the past, and actually probably more than that, and people may have set fields on fire, it'll go, \"Hello,\" or something like that, so the aliens would see from space, but, famously, there was the Pioneer plaque in 1971, I think, or 1970, Carl Sagan was involved with that, it shows a naked man and a naked woman side by side, and the man has his hand upraised, and the woman standing next to him, and it was horribly controversial, because, first of all, they're naked, so it's like pornography into space. Secondly, there was a big controversy about the man had genitals, the woman did not. And plus, the man was the action figure, he had his hand upraised, whereas the woman was just sort of standing there, so it was sexist, there was a huge controversy about that, so that didn't go over very big. Another time, 1974, Frank Drake, who many of you may know as the author of the Drake equation, which calculates the abundance of life in space, particularly, the abundance of intelligent life that might be sending signals to us in space. Drake took it upon himself to use the Arecibo Telescope in Puerto Rico to send a message to a globular cluster, maybe 25,000 light-years away, that had a bunch of information about the Earth in it. And immediately, there was an outcry, particularly, some astronomers said, \"You can't be screaming into space \"the existence of life on Earth, \"you don't know what's out there.\" I mean, the implication is, I mean, something could come eat us, or it means just it's dangerous. And this in fact, since that moment, has been, I think, the sort of general agreement that we do not announce ourselves intentionally. We have all our leakage, \"I Love Lucy,\" goes leaking out there, but we do not intentionally say, \"Hey, we're here, come find us,\" we don't do that. So that didn't go over very big. And then third example that pops into my mind of trying to communicate was the Voyager record, which was, again, Sagan and Drake and some of their pals, put together this sort of early CD-type disk that had a bunch of digitized images and sounds and things like that from Earth. And it included greetings from about 56 different diplomats in different languages, just saying hello, so that the aliens would understand, we had all these different tongues out there, and it also included whale greetings. And I have this tape, I play it occasionally just listen to it, and it's all these different languages, then somebody goes, \"Moo.\" It sounds like a cow. And it's always bothered me, because the truth is, we don't really know what the whale is saying. And I keep thinking that eventually the aliens are actually gonna find this spacecraft, and they're gonna decipher the meaning of all these encoded messages, and someone's gonna go to the leader of the aliens and say, \"It's the damnedest thing, \"it's seems like there's 56 different people saying hello \"and there's this one creature \"telling the most disgusting joke.\" So this is a very good book, but I don't think we're gonna be doing that, I don't think we're gonna be sending a direct signal. Now, by the way, I'm just rolling here, if anyone wants to suddenly ask a question, do not hesitate, I'm a newspaper reporter, we're rude, we're just like, \"Stop, question.\" So if you wanna ask something as I go, don't hesitate, we are gonna do questions and answers afterwards, but don't hesitate to interrupt me. My book, it's broken into parts. So the first part is sort of science, the middle part is a detour through what I call Alien Country, and the third part is back to science. And I try to carry people eventually to the whole realm of biology and what is life and to bring the narrative to kind of a thudding halt into some really complex science so that people's eyes glaze over and they realize how complicated the topic is, because most books, they tell you that, \"We've figured it all out,\" and I try to make people understand that we have not figured it all out, and a lot of the questions lead to the whole realm of biology. But the hero who keeps popping up in my book is Carl Sagan. Sagan is the hero even though, at times, he said things that were kinda silly, he entertained the possibility, early on, that we've been visited in the past and there were signs of ancient visitors in some of the monuments and the ruins around the planet, kind of the Erich von Daniken idea before von Daniken had that idea. He also thought that Phobos might be an artificial moon of Mars, which is one of the two moons of Mars, he said it might potentially be a hollow object. And Sagan was always the ultimate optimist, he thought there were maybe a million civilizations in this galaxy alone, a million different alien civilizations right now existing in our galaxy that we might communicate with. Now, this is a very optimistic view of what's out there. And at the same time, even as he speculated about these things, he's the hero of the book because he always defaulted to, \"Well, what do we really know?\" And he was willing to admit that we didn't know yet the truth about extraterrestrial life. And to his dying day, he would tell you that, although he had spent his whole life searching for it, he hadn't found it, and to me, that showed a great deal of courage. And plus, he was just a very entertaining guy, I interviewed him before he passed away, he died in December of '96, and I interviewed him earlier that year out in Seattle. He was sick, he was bald and very, very thin, and when he first answered the door, I didn't even recognize him instantly, and then he started talking in that famous voice. I don't know how many of y'all saw him on TV or ever saw, \"Cosmos,\" but he has this unmistakable way of pronouncing words and italicizing things. And we sat down, and we talked about all kinds of stuff, and the one thing that we talked about a lot was an experiment that he did in 1975, that he and Drake did in Arecibo, in which they figured out, they thought they had figured out the way to detect the aliens, which is to look at an entire galaxy at once, I mean, don't just look at one star. And Jill Tarter was here, I guess, last week, and talked about the way they do their searches right now, Sagan and Drake wanted to use Arecibo to look at the Andromeda Galaxy and a couple of other galaxies, with the idea that surely somewhere in that huge whirlpool of solar systems, there would be a super civilization, a very, very powerful civilization that would be able to beam a message, detectable with Arecibo, all the way here on Earth, across two million light-years of space. In other words, you look for the brightest source out there, in the same way that when we look at the night sky, we don't see the nearest stars, we see the brightest stars typically. And so Sagan and Drake, I talked to both of them about this, they went to Puerto Rico, they got up very early in the morning, were driving to the telescope, which was back in the mountains, and Sagan thought, \"We may make the biggest discovery \"in the history of science this morning. \"I mean, it may have them before lunch, \"this could be it, we could get the signal.\" And Drake was always a little more even keeled 'cause he'd done more of these searches and he knew that they typically did not pan out. So they get the Arecibo, they turn on the machine and the data starts coming in, but all they get is just static. And they're looking at the screen and there's just static, and the telescope is scanning the entire galaxy out there. And Drake said that he looked over at Sagan and he started to slump in his chair, and then he started to stare out the window. And that's all they saw was static, and Sagan told me he was depressed for a week, they'd spent a week doing this, he just was totally depressed, 'cause he kept wondering, \"Where are they, \"where are these aliens, what are we not doing right, \"what part of this problem \"have we not thought through carefully enough?\" Because he believed they were out there, he believed that they would be sending some kind of information, but they weren't picking it up. And so that's sort of the ongoing question in my book is, \"Well, where are they?\" And Steve Dick has written about this, this has been something people have been asking for more than 2,000 years, \"Where are they?\" And typically, the trend has been that people thought they were maybe on the Moon, no, not there, Venus, Mars, not there. The trend, typically, is they're not as conveniently located as we thought. Now, in my book, I'm gonna see if I can pull this out for a second, excuse me. Am I allowed to move? I feel like I'm trapped up here on this spot. My book, hold on a sec. Okay, I'm disappearing behind the rostrum, I'm gonna vanish. Okay, my book talks about the five biggest unknowns in science, and my list is that, and this is an arbitrary list, but I'd say the biggest unknowns would be, why is the Universe here at all? What is the fundamental essence of matter and energy? How did life originate? How does consciousness emerge from our brains? And finally, is there intelligent life on other worlds? Of those questions, the first four, I mean, those are all very important things that people are actively thinking about and writing about, the first four though typically involve phenomena at a very small scale, which is to say the origin of the Universe, while the Universe is, of course, incredibly huge, its origin is theorized to have been in a very small condition, essentially, what do you call it, a quantum fluctuation, or something like that, some minuscule event that takes place, and you go through expansion and inflation and get the large Universe. The fundament of matter and energy is little strings, little vibrating loops, you can't see 'em, but mathematically you can postulate that they're there. The origin of life, probably some little replicating molecule or a little collection of molecules, theoretically, that somehow would make the transition from non-life to life. Now, this is an incredibly complicated question that I'm not trying to say it's a small issue, it's just that it involve small things. The question of how consciousness emerges, well, molecules in the brain, little cells in the brain, neurons, axons, all that chemistry, it happens on a small scale, but aliens are big, aliens, they fly spaceships, they zoom around, and this is a real possibility. I mean, I don't know what the truth is, but it is possible that there really are intelligent animals on other worlds out there, and that the information about this will be something that we will be able to detect even in our lifetimes and we may make contact, I tend to be far more pessimistic about this than most people, but it is a real possibility. And so I think that's one reason why this has been such a captivating issue, and rightfully so. The odd thing is, to me, is that even as science is making this journey to figure out the truth about life in the Universe, there's this parallel track of UFOs and aliens and visitors and alien abductions, and it's a very appealing scenario because, suddenly, rather than dealing with all these sort of tedious investigations that NASA does, you can go down to your local bookstore and find a book that'll tell you the answer, it'll tell you, \"Yes, they're here, \"here's photographs of 'em. \"Okay, they're a little fuzzy, okay, \"but here's photographs.\" I mean, you probably have heard, I mean, that aliens are engaged in a breeding program, they're trying to breed a hybrid of humans and aliens, this is what I have heard, that aliens, essentially, they have something wrong with them, they're lacking something in their DNA, they have incredible technology, they're very, very advanced, very, very smart, but they're kind of cold and bloodless and they're sort of like scientists, okay? And no offense to anyone out there in particular, but they're kind of scientists. But we have feelings, okay, that's why they come to us because they want pieces of our DNA. I've talked to people who say that they have been sampled, and they've said they've had implants put into them. I was at this thing in Roswell and this person is like showing me this bump on her leg, and she says, \"Touch it, touch it,\" I'm like touching thing, and I told her, like, \"I think it's a zit.\" But she thought it was an implant. And that's sort of the whole, I mean, so much of this debate comes down to that, is it an alien implant put there by scientists from a very distant world who've traveled here across 59 trillion billion miles of space, okay, to do something with this lady, or is it a zit? Now, that's the question that haunts me. And another, a classic example actually is a space shuttle saw a flying saucer, do you know about that case?\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- I saw this on NBC, it was called, \"Confirmation,\" it was a TV show, Whitley Strieber was the executive producer, there's a video out the shuttle window of something zooming along and then changing directions down by the Earth. And if you do all the triangulation, you can figure out this thing must've been going thousands and thousands of miles an hour, and then made a 90-degree turn. So as a spaceship, well, the occupants obviously are not human 'cause humans could not survive that dramatic of a change in momentum. And there was a scientist, I mean, one thing you should know, there's always a scientist out there who has all the credentials, Dr. So-and-so, who will say, \"This is the proof, it's real,\" you can always find these people, you don't have to dig very deep. And there's a scientist saying on NBC, \"Yeah, this is a spaceship. \"And this shuttle, I mean, NASA has this image.\" Well, NASA says, \"Well, no, we just jettisoned some urine \"and this is a little flake of frozen pee \"that is going right past the window right outside \"and changing directions \"when we're firing one of our little booster rockets.\" So that so often is the issue, alien spaceship or pee? You make the call. Now, one of the reasons I wrote this book is, I hate the thought, in the title, I think I call myself a skeptic, actually I hate the term skeptic, it sounds so humorless, sounds like, skeptics, like people who have no fun, a skeptic is someone who can't sleep at night because somewhere there's someone believing in something that's not true. The nerve of these people. And it's true that if you ever read like a skeptic's magazine, there tends to be kind of a frowning face, \"We are not amused,\" quality to the whole thing. And so I don't like consider this to be a skeptical book and I tried to have fun with it, I tried to enjoy the research and all that, although a few times, I did think I was going crazy just listening to people talk about stuff that wasn't remotely true. But in fact, can I read something from my book, how long have I been, I don't wanna go on and on forever, I bought my cellphone, if it rings, I may have to answer it, okay, I'm gonna read you a little passage, is that okay?\r\n\r\n- Sure.\r\n\r\n- Just from a couple of characters, I hung out with these people in Las Vegas who thought they were from the Pleiades, the Pleiades is the Seven Sisters, the star system up there, it's really a striking little, a fairly faint, but a striking constellation, and for some reason, a lot of people who think they are walk-ins, which is that they think that they have had an alien spirit walk into their body, and they believe they are from the Pleiades, that's a very popular place to be from. And one day, we went to a vortex out in the mountains, I didn't know what a vortex was until they explained to me, basically, it's a place where there was an alien spaceship base, the spaceships were underground or something. So I'm gonna read this, hold on a second. Okay, \"The Starseed,\" the Starseed, that's the name of the people from the Pleiades, you understand, what happened is this woman, Jan, used to be called Val, and she had to go to her daughter and say, \"I'm not Val anymore, I'm not your mother anymore. \"Okay, she's now in a different body. \"I'm now Jan, I'm from the Pleiades,\" And I asked the daughter, \"How do you feel about that?\" And she said, \"Well, it's kinda weird, \"but it'd be awfully arrogant of us \"to think we're the only life in the Universe.\" So she bought into it, families are odd, everyone's got a story. Okay, \"The Starseed said the Pleiades,\" sorry, \"The Starseed said the Pleiadians \"had some kind of underground base nearby \"for their spaceships, \"Misha agreed to show me the place. \"I drove, Jan couldn't go, but her friend Deborah could. \"Misha and Deborah had different cosmologies \"within their mutual belief in an alien presence. \"Misha felt the aliens \"were probably positive benign creatures, \"she did not buy into some of the more terrifying elements \"of the abduction scenario, \"but Deborah had a darker vision. \"I could see her in the rearview mirror, \"she wore shades, she was by any conventional measure \"a pretty Woman, 40-something, blond, \"but with a serious brooding face \"as though she were contemplating \"an unpleasant appointment. \"She told me, 'In the early 80s, \"'I started getting hit with feelings of gloom and doom, \"'like the world was coming to an end.' \"As it happened, her ordinary life was ending, \"she began having abduction experiences, \"contact with aliens of a malign intent. \"They would come every night at 3:00 a.m. \"and walk around her bed, she couldn't move. \"She said, 'I've had some really horrifying experiences \"'being in bed and feeling like I'm being thrown out of bed, \"'feelings of being paralyzed, \"'I've visualized entities.' \"I asked her what she saw, \"'What I saw was the devil. \"'What I know today,' she said, \"her memory corrected by a realization \"of the alien presence, \"'is that what I saw was reptilian energy.' \"She came to realize that she herself \"was an alien spirit from the Pleiades. \"The Pleiadians are humanoids, \"this explains her ongoing problem with the reptilians, \"different types of aliens don't get along. \"There are also dolphinoids out there \"and serpent people who go, \"Tch, tch, tch, tch.\" \"'Some of them,' said Debra, \"'May come from the center of the Earth.'\" \"I asked her, 'Why are the aliens coming here?' \"She said, 'I think there are some out there \"'that are seeking power over our planet. \"'I think there are some who can't evolve themselves \"'until we remember who we are, so we can evolve.' \"These theories were also evolving, \"everything was up in the air, \"there wasn't a single narrative that everyone agreed on, \"many aliens, many agendas. \"We reached the Red Rocks area west of the city \"and drove down a gravel road \"into an area been graded and plaited for a subdivision. \"The desert air was so clear, \"it was hard to tell the dimensions of the hills around us. \"We walked through a picnic area, \"Deborah lingered in one spot, clearly stirred. \"'Do you feel something?' Misha asked. \"'Yes,' said Deborah, 'chaotic energy.' \"'Are you a little nauseous?' asked Misha. \"'Yes,' said Deborah, \"'you know what this reminds me of, reptilian energy.' \"Misha said, 'But wait, \"'this was supposed to be a Pleiadian base, \"'the Pleiadians are humanoids.' \"And Deborah said, 'No, \"'maybe it's the reptilian Pleiadian base.'\" See, it was complicated, there's like reptilian Pleiadians, humanoid Pleiadians. \"We walked across a flattened spot \"where someone would soon build a house. \"Chalk lines prefigured the rooms to come. \"Las Vegas is racing into these mountains \"as fast as the developers can pour concrete. \"The population of the county hit a million in the 1990s, \"and the projection is for two million by 2006. \"The Pleiadian base will not have the same energy \"when it is covered with houses and lawns. \"The city and its expansion \"showed the best and worst of the human race, \"our creative energy and adaptability \"let us invent an entertainment megalopolis \"where there'd been nothing \"but a small town in the desert, \"but it is all powered by greed, \"by a gangster's vision of free-flowing cash. \"Now, they wonder where they'll get water. \"Do these things happen on other worlds, \"do civilizations last for millions of years, \"sticking around long enough \"to be detected by radio telescopes \"if they have a Las Vegas somewhere in their psyche?\" \"Deborah and Misha put their hands \"on the dry powdery surface \"of the rust red cliff at the edge of the basin. \"They felt it, the energy. \"I climbed onto an enormous rock \"vaguely shaped like a spaceship \"that looked as if it might take off \"for the Pleiades any moment. \"'When we touch a surface,' I announced, \"'we feel not the solid matter of the thing, \"'but merely the electrical repulsion, \"'the energy of the electron's shell.' \"In other words, I was trying to impress them with knowledge \"with which I had only the faintest acquaintance. \"'Einstein,' I said, 'was the person who figured out \"'that matter is the same thing as energy, \"'it's the same stuff in different form, \"'matter, the saying goes, is frozen energy.' \"And Misha said, 'Did you hear that the feeling is \"'that Einstein was a Starseed alien?' \"Then something wonderful happened, \"Deborah came upon a plaque buried in the ground, \"it said, 'Lizard Lounge Cabana.'\" \"Apparently the local Rotary Club \"was going to build a cabana in that spot \"named The Lizard Lounge. \"'Reptilian Lounge, no shit,' said Debra, \"she laughed, vindicated.\" People find the evidence if they're looking for it. Believing is seeing is a saying that you here out there, and scientists do it too. Scientists also tend to find things that they were already looking for, and sometimes it leads them astray. Percival Lowell, of course, famously would stare into his telescope, 100 years ago, out in Flagstaff, at Mars. And at first, he wouldn't see anything, but if he waited long enough, this is what he wrote in his books, the canals would come into focus. If he kept looking, he'd see the canals. And he figured out and promoted the idea there were all these canals on Mars, and therefore, there was intelligent life on Mars, and of course, it was more advanced than us, 'cause the aliens are always more advanced. And his evidence was that a species that could do engineering on that scale of canals across the entire surface of the planet, that clearly they had greater technology than we have with our puny little canals. And plus, they would've solved all the problems, the political problems of getting along from country to country, therefore they were sort of morally more advanced. I talk about this stuff, I don't wanna sound like I know exactly what the answer is, one thing I noticed was that, on this topic, people who go into it come out thinking that they're the one sane person when it comes to aliens and extraterrestrial life. And after I spent a couple of years on this, I realized, \"Hey, no, actually it's me, \"I'm the one sane person, \"I'm the one who's figured it out.\" I actually, at one point, with these Pleiadians, they were curious that I was so interested in the topic, and they kept saying like, \"Are you feeling drawn to the vortex, \"what's drawing you into this?\" And I mentioned offhand that I have a sleep disorder that causes me sometimes to be paralyzed as I'm going to sleep, I can't move. This is called sleep paralysis, it's not that unusual of conditions. Has anyone here ever had that, where they? Okay, one weirdo in the back, anyone else? Okay, it's a thing where you're still conscious and you can't move. It's very alarming 'cause you feel like someone is doing it to you, okay, and plus, you tend to have these auditory hallucinations as though someone is coming into the room, you actually hear intruders, it's quite disturbing, and of course, stupid me, I mentioned this to the Pleiadians. And they're like, \"Aha, \"okay, he's one of us.\" And so they thought I was from space too. And they got me to agree to be hypnotized in a hotel room to see if I could recover a memory of the first time I was abducted, or whatever it was that was causing this experience. And I went through with it, it was in like the Sahara Casino Hotel, whatever, I'm sitting there, and Deborah, she put me into sort of like a alpha state trance kind of hypnotic thing, and I tried so hard to remember exactly what happened the first time I ever had this sort of sleep paralysis. I was with my friend, Trey, we're driving across West Texas, on the road actually to Roswell of all creepy things, and there was this Bob Dylan song on and suddenly, I couldn't move, and it was just really creepy, but I couldn't remember any aliens, I couldn't remember any flying saucers or anything like that. And of course, I felt really bad that I disappointed Deborah, but the fact that I couldn't remember anything, I mean, that's they operate. I mean, that's their MO. If you don't remember being abducted, I mean, that's probably evidence that you were. So if you have no memory like that, I think you should be worried. And in doing this book, I tried to look at all aspects of it, I went, at one point, to Vancouver, to the set of the X Files, and interviewed Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny. And the irony is that Anderson totally believes, excuse me, totally believes that, as she put it, \"The aliens are here and the government is covering it up.\" I mean, she said she literally would be shocked if that were not the case. And those of you who know the show, Gillian Anderson plays the skeptic on the show, Agent Scully. The believer on the show, David Duchovny, told me that he thinks it's all nonsense and he says the show is essentially almost a religious-type show, like, \"Touched by an Angel,\" because what the show tells people is that things don't happen for a random reason, there are bad guys out there conspiring against you, and I thought that was a pretty good analysis. And in general, I'm always kind of discouraged that science hasn't done a better job of fighting this war, in a sense, against pop culture, or of making its view of the Universe and of life sufficiently compelling and beautiful to people that they feel like they have to turn to these much more dramatic narratives to be excited. And I sort of think that being alive, being a human being and having consciousness and having, I mean, if you think about the way our body works, it's such a miraculous, amazing, complex system that I'm not really sure you need to throw in flying saucers and aliens to have a dramatic narrative. I'm gonna wrap up here in a second, and I wanna take questions, but let me just mention a couple other things about aliens, my biggest objection to the aliens is they have no information. I mean, they come here, across all of space to visit us, and all they do is say, \"Be careful about nuclear weapons,\" or, \"Beware of global warming,\" they don't ever tell us like what is their biochemistry, I mean, are they carbon-based, do they have liquid water in their metabolism, and are there lots of other species on their planets? They don't ever tell us anything, we don't learn anything from the aliens. And so when I was doing this book, eventually I got kind of bored with it, as interesting as the humans I was dealing with. I think that speculation can be very useful, Sagan was very useful 'cause even as he speculated about polar bears on Mars, getting people thinking is a good idea, sometimes crazy ideas turn out to be true. 200 years ago, no one believed that rocks could fall from space, scientists said \"That can't be true,\" they did not believe in meteorites then. 80 years ago, when someone proposed that the surface of the Earth moved, that there were these plates shifting around, that Africa was once joined with North America, that idea was rejected. Well, it's true, crazy ideas sometimes turn out to be true, but when you go through life, you should always remember, most crazy ideas are wrong. They are crazy, and I think that the alien idea is in that category. I'm gonna go ahead and take questions here, but let me just finish one more point, if I could. The Universe is so big, it's hard to imagine there's no intelligent life anywhere out there. And I think the distance is not a trivial factor, if they're 70 galaxies that way, it's gonna be kind of hard to communicate with 'em. In general, I think that we are very much at the beginning of the search, I don't think there's much data on extraterrestrial life, I think there's a lot of speculation, there's plausibility arguments, there's some nifty ideas. But when I interviewed Stephen Jay Gould for this book, he just kept saying the same thing over and over again, \"No data.\" He didn't wanna take a stand, and I think he was right, 'cause there's really no data on it yet. It may happen, and they found signs of liquid water on Mars, there's signs of liquid water beneath the surface of Europa, Planet Finder is this telescope their gonna build in the next 10-15 years, that might find the signature of life on another planet out there, we may have data in our lifetime, but at the moment, we're still very much at the beginning of the search and this idea that it would be arrogant of us to think we're the only intelligent life in the galaxy or whatever. You hear this all the time, it would be so much hubris to think that we're the best. Our attitude doesn't matter, it's an empirical question, it doesn't matter if we're arrogant or not, we have to go find the answer, I think it's one of the great unknowns in our lives is what's out there, how do we fit into the life of the Universe? In a way, it's sort of like who are we? And I think we should go find the truth. So, thank you. All right, who's got a question? Is anyone really mad now that I said they're not real?\r\n\r\n- What do you think the motivation is to believe in aliens and abductions and all of these complex phenomena?\r\n\r\n- Well, I mean the simple answer that you hear a lot is that aliens are sort of like secular angels or demons, and that they essentially play a role that other kinds of spirits and mythological creatures have played for thousands of years. And I tend to be a little, and my feeling is like we are a model-building species, we think about what the truth is out there, we invent stories, we are storytellers. And this idea of visitors is a very powerful and evocative story that, in a sense, is not that no irrational, if you accept that most scientists probably think that there's intelligent life somewhere, or at least that it's a possibility, all the believers are doing is sort of tweaking location, all they're saying is, \"Okay, well, \"rather than 100 trillion light-years that way, \"100 trillion miles that way, let's just put 'em here.\" They're tweaking the matter of location, I don't really think, one thing I notice is that when I talk to someone who's a true believer in UFOs, and I assume there's people here who strongly believe in them, I've never thought that the people tended to be irrational or crazy to believe in 'em, I don't think people are dumb to believe 'em, I just think it's a different way of analyzing the data, it's a different way of interpreting it. But it is striking that the alien stories are anthropocentric, in that the aliens are fascinated with us, they can't keep their hands off of us, I mean, supposedly, this is a very open-minded view of the Universe that there's life everywhere, but the alien stories tend to have this anthropocentric central irony to them, the aliens have to come here and there's something about us that they crave. Another question, yes, sir?\r\n\r\n- One thing that like, you interview so many different people, and somehow you have something nice to say about all of them, with one thing that comes just to an exception being the people who want to colonize Mars. It sounds like they somehow tick you off, if I may say that.\r\n\r\n- Okay, that's a fair comment, I have a chapter in there about the Mars Society, and I don't think it's unduly harsh, but they had their founding convention, and I thought it was very unsuccessful for them because they lapsed very quickly into, they didn't really explain why they wanted to go to Mars very well. It came off sounding very much like manifest destiny, which was the term they themselves began using. They said, \"It's the manifest destiny of our species \"to colonize Mars and eventually go out into space \"and colonize other worlds.\" Now, this is a philosophy that has not served our planet well in the past, I do not think that they came anywhere close to finessing that central problem in their motivation. I think exploring Mars for scientific reasons and potentially even for cultural reasons is a very interesting idea, and I could imagine supporting it, I'm not sure I wanna send these folks to Mars. Okay, or actually maybe that's the solution, but. Who else has got a question, yes, sir?\r\n\r\n- I'm just wondering about your response to the question before about true believers not being irrational or crazy. I have to say when I first heard you talk about Deborah, she maybe sounds irrational and crazy, and I thought if you were her, you wouldn't be very happy about the way you talked about her.\r\n\r\n- Okay, there's a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118518#t=0.0,2841.15592"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - AV204729_How_to_Avoid_Getting_Captured_by_Aliens_b.mp3"]},"duration":1396.0098,"width":640,"height":40,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/118/519/small/lecture.png?1624896217","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/content/2/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-iastate.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/118/519/original/AV204729_How_to_Avoid_Getting_Captured_by_Aliens_b.mp3?1624896217","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":1396.0098,"width":640,"height":40},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV204729_How_to_Avoid_Getting_Captured_by_Aliens_b.vtt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Will not invalidate the experiences of others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=5.207,8.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've been to a meeting event group","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=8.82,11.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and everyone there believes in the aliens,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=11.25,14.27"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"believes in this scenario,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=14.27,16.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so she has a lot of support for that interpretation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=16.02,18.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So number, is it irrational if all your friends","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=18.95,22.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and associates say this really does happen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=22.37,26.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. And then what about the books?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=26.67,29.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Go to any bookstore, I guarantee you,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=29.77,31.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the number of skeptical books is greatly 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Mexico.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1324.29,1329.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there's all kinds of research going on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1330.62,1332.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the topic right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1332.69,1335.393"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1337.58,1338.413"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How about one one more question and then we're done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1339.45,1342.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyone? I guess not, I guess we're done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1342.82,1345.14"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.\nWhat is the scariest","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1345.14,1347.817"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"story you have?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1347.817,1349.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e The scariest?\nYeah. (laughs)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1349.93,1353.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e The scariest story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1353.08,1354.723"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me think about that for a second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1356.15,1358.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The scariest story was when I actually","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1358.87,1363.68"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"signed the book contract","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1363.68,1365.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and discover I was go have to actually write the book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1365.1,1367.993"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(audience laughing)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1367.993,1369.652"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, scary deadline. A lot of blank paper.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1369.652,1373.673"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyway, thanks very much for coming, everyone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1375.62,1378.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I appreciate it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1378.32,1379.277"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(audience clapping)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1379.277,1382.277"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Stick around and I'll think of it, okay, stick around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1384.392,1388.733"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't worry about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=1388.733,1390.65"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29912/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/029/912/original/AV204729_How_to_Avoid_Getting_Captured_by_Aliens_b.vtt?1624896218","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/029/912/original/AV204729_How_to_Avoid_Getting_Captured_by_Aliens_b.vtt?1624896218"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29913","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV204729_How_to_Avoid_Getting_Captured_by_Aliens_b.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519/transcript/29913/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- Will not invalidate the experiences of others. I've been to a meeting event group and everyone there believes in the aliens, believes in this scenario, so she has a lot of support for that interpretation. So number, is it irrational if all your friends and associates say this really does happen? Okay. And then what about the books? Go to any bookstore, I guarantee you, the number of skeptical books is greatly outweighed by the number of books saying that the aliens are here. You can go into a Borders or a Barnes \u0026 Noble, there's stacks of 'em. Occasionally you see a book like \"Rare Earth\" comes out and says there's hardly any life anywhere. Occasionally you'll have a debunking book but the books that sell the way to write, to make a bestseller in this country is to write something that's not true for some reason. Okay? And there is so much validation surrounding these people that I would say that they don't actually have to be that irrational to fall into what amounts to a worldview. The Heaven's Gate cult. 39 people killed themselves to link up with a alleged spaceship, following Comet Hale-Bopp. It was a terrible tragedy, and you know, okay, I'll concede these people were irrational but look at their environment. First of all, you know, of course they had this sort of nutty leader, but I got a list of all the publications in their library from the San Diego Sheriff's office. You know, they had all the books about aliens. They subscribed to all the alien magazines and plus and plus, you know, \"Scientific American\", you know, things like that. They were immersed in a culture that validated their nutty belief. As far as, you know, being irrational, I do think that the one mistake a lot of people make when they go into this is they don't understand how important it is to subject something to possible falsifiability. The one problem with aliens is you can't prove they're not there. I mean, there could be an alien sitting by a potted plant over there, I can't prove there's not because the aliens have powers of invisibility. And all I can say is that alien doesn't have scientific stature as far as I'm concerned, you know. I wouldn't give him credentials to go to a scientific meeting, okay. But I can't prove he's not there or it's not there. Yes, sir?\r\n\r\n- On all the interviews you do, the interviews in your book, you have a range for them to be resulted in the Drake equation. Can you deal with estimates?\r\n\r\n- Yes, the estimates of the Drake equation is a bunch of factors, as you know, that go into just an estimated number of technological communicative civilizations in our galaxy and the numbers I've heard range from one, one or less, okay? I say one or fewer in our galaxy, would be someone like Ben Zuckerman or possibly the authors of this new book \"Rare Earth,\" people would say, it's just very, the constraints there's so many constraints on life that it's not likely to be out there. A guy named Joan Oro gave a presentation in Hawaii last year where he came up with 200. There'd be 200 technological civilizations right now. Frank Drake, he's, you know, the great figure in this whole issue, in this whole topic, thinks his number is 10,000. Sagan's number is 1 million and Seth Shostak's number tends to be tens of millions. So, and Seth Shostak works with the SETI Institute. He's a very intelligent scientist who's written a book called I think \"Sharing the Universe,\" something like that. So you have all these different numbers. You know, I don't think the numbers are really worth much. I mean, we don't, you know, we do not know how life begins. Therefore we do not know with how often, given certain conditions, life will actually appear. Plus we don't know how often those conditions exist. I mean, how many Earth-like planets are there? We do not know. We certainly do not know how likely it is once you have life going, how likely is it that it's gonna ever get beyond the stage of bacteria? You know, the Eukaryotic Revolution 2 billion years ago on Earth. Was that luck or was was that something that was sort of inevitable? I mean, what I, what struck me when I started doing research on this was that relatively recently we came to realize that life on Earth goes back way back to near the beginning of the Earth's history. And we think there's signs of life roughly about the time that the Earth stopped being bombarded with objects from space on a regular basis, maybe 3.8 billion years ago. If that's true, you could, as a an optimist say, look, life is easy. You know, life sparked up quickly. It just happened like that on the Earth. You know, life is no great shakes to get it rolling. But the pessimist would say, yeah, but it took 3.8 billion years, to get to the point where, you know, we figured out how to build a wheel, okay? In other words, it's a very long haul from the origin to now. Questions? Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- There have been some pretty exact examples of out-and-out fraud, continue to pushing that view that there are aliens among us. For example, the Roswell autopsy stating that there's . How widespread is out-and-out fraud and fakery in the UFO world?\r\n\r\n- The question is how widespread is the fraud and fakery in the UFO world. I think it's in the minority. I think that most UFO reports are not fraud. There are some, I mean, I went to a lecture in Laughlin, Nevada at a UFO conference by a man who pretended to be a NASA scientist. He was not, I checked. And he gave this lecture saying that, this is right for Heaven's Gate, but the Heaven's Gate people were at this lecture, they were in the room with me listening to this presentation. And it was a fairly charismatic presentation in which he claimed that there was a spaceship following Hale-Bopp, and it was going to somehow trigger a gravity wave which was gonna pass through the Earth and somehow spark or activate 12 strands of DNA in all of our bodies which would then have some wonderful effects. And this was all gonna happen in the next 24 hours. You know, in science things are always gonna happen practically never, okay. You know, 100 billion years from now, something's gonna happen, right? Okay, in the UFO world, this is happening tomorrow morning, 8:30, set your clock, you know? I could find the guy afterwards and I said, you know, come on. Is any of this stuff you're talking about, did you just make it up, and what's going on? He says, look, I'm telling people what they wanna hear. And he inscribed one of his books to the Heaven's Gate people. And that was one of the books they left behind in the library when they were all dead. You know, but a lot of... Fraud, I mean like, the Roswell crash saucer case. Is that, would you call it a hoax, a fraud? No, I would call that homegrown American myth. I mean, you go to Roswell, when I was there, there were two different museums each with a different version about what happened, each with a different crash site. And each with like posters, making fun of the other place for getting the story wrong. I went out to this ranch, the Corn Ranch, the Corn family owned this ranch. And there was like a little, I guess you call it an arroyo. It was like a little gulch. In fact, this part of the world is pretty dismal. I mean, there's not a whole lot in Roswell. I mean, I hope no one is from Roswell, it's a beautiful place, magical. Great restaurants, it's like Manhattan. No, it's, out in the middle of this field, you know, there's just like a little gulch. And that, according to the UFO researchers, is where the flying saucer crashed. Okay, which is actually the only sort of scenic spot within 50 miles. It just happened to crash there. You know, I mean, they have the technology, they can cross from Alpha Centauri to here, you know, with no problem but then like a thunderstorm, you know, crashes a saucer. But there are people leaving all these little notes, saying, you know, we're so sorry about what happened when you crashed here. And, you know, we love you and all these really emotional notes from people at this site. And I started talking to the family and I said, you know, \"What's it like to own the ranch where this famous thing happened?\" They said, \"Oh, we didn't know anything about it until a couple years ago, these guys showed up and told us that this was a crash site.\" You know, so somehow, in 1947, a flying saucer crashes there, and they don't find out till 1995 or something, you know? And that's how the story works is that, you know, you go there and you scrape the slightest bit into that Roswell story and it's just vapor, right? But it's a powerful and a very evocative myth that a lot of people believe in. There was a book that was written called, by Phil Corso called \"The Day After Roswell,\" where Phil Corso claimed to have seen the bodies from Roswell, and he did work for a while in the Pentagon. That book is a hoax. That book is, what did it mean? It just, it's not true, what he wrote, but a lot of people believe it and it sold very well. You know, so what can you do? Questions. We're running out on time here. Let's, we got time. Questions. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- What percentage of the world actually believes that there's life out there and do you believe it?\r\n\r\n- That there's life out there?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I believe there's life out there. I think that even with pessimistic numbers going into like your own little Drake equation it's kinda hard to get it down to nothing out there. You know, it just stands to reason to me that what has happened on Earth could happen elsewhere. But that said, that's just a guess. And I think we need to go find the answer. I think, you know, it's something to investigate. It's just pure speculation at the moment. As far as what most people believe. I think most people believe there's life out there. I think most people today believe there's intelligent life out there. If the mistake people make, I think, is they're too optimistic about it. That they specifically take intelligent life for granted. What we do not know as we go through our lives, is we don't really know what we are. We don't, it's really hard to appreciate ourselves. And what does it mean to be an intelligent creature? Well, we now know that at least from the standpoint of science and from the standpoint of evolution, it appears that to be an intelligent creature means that you are the culmination or at least you are a product of 4 billion years of evolution. How often do you have a biosphere where you have life that can continuously evolve and differentiate over 4 billion years? The whole universe has only been around for about 12, 13, 14, billion years according to latest estimates, okay? So 4 billion years is about a third the history of the entire universe, that's a very long time that there has been evolution here on Earth according to, you know, the world of science. And so being an intelligent creature is, you're a 4 billion year old entity. You're the distillate of 4 billion years of information buildup. You know, the simplest E. coli bacterium is an immensely complicated organism. A human being is the most complicated piece of matter that we've ever found in the universe. Human brain, specifically is an enormous, is more sophisticated than any computer we've ever built. It's not a trivial thing to be an intelligent being. So I guess in a visceral way I object to the way that the people who believe in UFO's just bequeath to these aliens all of the, you know, the gifts of intelligence that we've been working hard for 4 billion years to get here. So question, yes.\r\n\r\n- How are the settings where connections with extraterrestrialites outside the United States?\r\n\r\n- That's a great question, and unfortunately I didn't have the budget to go fly around and really find that out. Anecdotally, my impression is that there are some places like Mexico where it's a very big topic and I think in England to some extent but there are countries in the world where it just simply is not an issue. In China, it's become very big and in Japan it's big, but a lot of places, it just is not a big topic. And I don't really know why that is, but there's no doubt that America is the global leader in ufology. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Do you think some of that has to do with socioeconomic bases in those societies, why they don't believe? I mean, in underdeveloped countries, they're not more apt because they don't have the education or the knowledge that we do here?\r\n\r\n- Well, I mean, you could almost argue that, you know, it's a frivolous pursuit and that it's a, it's almost a sign of affluence to be able to sit around and invent these narratives. But I do not know the answer to the question, but my suspicion is that this issue does not cleave along socioeconomic lines, you know, rich people, poor people, people of all different belief systems, you know, tap into this idea. It's a very powerful narrative. I mean, it's not like smart people don't believe in aliens and dumb people do. It doesn't seem to follow along any... The only thing I noticed for certain that sort of separated believers from nonbelievers is that believers tend to be much more skeptical of the government and of the official story of reality in general, you know, what scientists say. The believers tend to view science as a kind of monolithic community that is suspect. And they tend to believe the government account of things as being suspect. And it's very easy for them to imagine, for example, that the government is covering up an alien presence. Now I work in Washington. I'm a full-time newspaper reporter for \"The Washington Post.\" The government I report on could not cover up the alien presence for two seconds. You know? So anyway, question. Okay.\r\n\r\n- You talked about Carl Sagan and how he's disappointed that, you know, he didn't see anything in the static. If he had heard something, did he have a planned response?\r\n\r\n- The question is, what would Sagan have done if he had actually made contact. You know, he was such a busy guy. I bet he didn't make plans, any contingency plans for that. But, you know, I don't know what he would've done. It's actually, there's a whole issue of what do you do when you get the information? Which is why this book is here that Steve Dick worked on, which is, you know \"When SETI Succeeds,\" you know, what are you gonna do? And there's a whole protocol out there about who is supposed to be informed at what point. And I think at some point, the President is supposed to find out but the rules say that if you're an astronomer and you get the signal, I think you're supposed to contact, you know the Secretary of the International Astronomical Union. Okay, now we know that's not gonna happen. The first thing they're gonna do is they're gonna go to the local TV station and say, \"Aliens! We found them\". That's what I mean, I don't know but there is a official protocol on it. So how about just two more questions? Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- In 1908, there was some kind of extraterrestrial something that hit in the northern part of the Siberian wasteland that supposedly leveled lots of trees, killed animals. Do you have any idea about whatever that was?\r\n\r\n- Well, the gentleman is referring to the Tunguska event. I believe that's, it that how to pronounce it? Anyone know? The Tunguska event. Tunguska was a region in Siberia that suddenly kaboom, it was leveled. And what I think is interesting about that is that people always talk about, I mean, the theory is it was some kind of object, either a comet or some kind of meteorite or something that exploded when it hit the atmosphere. And that this was, in modern times, the best example of a catastrophic impact. Now let's think about that. As people always talk about, well what if a meteorite hit the Earth and hit Times Square? Like how many thousands of people would be killed? Or what if a meteorite landed right in the middle of Chicago? Well, the interesting thing is if a big rock from space or comet hit the Earth, it would probably actually land either in the middle of the ocean or someplace like Tunguska, okay. Place so obscure, like, a giant object from space had to hit it for anyone to ever know it existed. That's the definition of a remote place. But I think that they don't know what it was, but I've always heard it was like a, it was some kind of an object like a comet or a rock or something. Okay, the scientists over here confirm that, so solved.\r\n\r\n- Was it the spaceship?\r\n\r\n- Okay, and it could have been a heat ray, but you know, why would they, why were they aiming there? You know, the aliens, their technology isn't that good, they missed. Yes.\r\n\r\n- How much money do we spend in this area searching for extraterrestrial life?\r\n\r\n- On SETI?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, on SETI.\r\n\r\n- On the search?\r\n\r\n- Yeah. The federal government does not directly fund the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, which is SETI, the actual searching for intelligence civilizations because a Senator from Nevada, Richard Bryan, always thought it was crazy and refused to allow any bills to go forward to actually fund it. In fact, for a while it was funded, like 1992 and they yanked the funding in '93. And so that search is being funded with donations from individuals, but NASA has an astrobiology program that is going great guns right now. And it's been going for several years and there's, I don't know, over the course of 5 or 10 years they're gonna spend a billion dollars, I think, trying to investigate the extraterrestrial life in a very scientific fashion, which is, for example, there's a Sample Return program to go get a piece of Martian soil and bring it back. There are plans to build a telescope that can look for the signature of life in the atmosphere of an extrasolar planet, if we can find a planet like that, and there's a lot of researches on meteorites and even life on Earth. I mean, exobiologists tend to do their field work, by necessity, on Earth. They go to places like Yellowstone or Baja, California. I went for a \"National Geographic\" story, I went into this cave in Mexico where we had to put on these gas masks because it was filled with all this sulfurous fumes and gases. And we would study all the strange life forms that lived in this very horrible back-billed cave, you know, in Mexico. So there's all kinds of research going on on the topic right now. Question. How about one one more question and then we're done. Anyone? I guess not, I guess we're done. Okay.\r\n\r\n- What is the scariest story you have?\r\n\r\n- The scariest?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- The scariest story. Let me think about that for a second. The scariest story was when I actually signed the book contract and discover I was go have to actually write the book. You know, scary deadline. A lot of blank paper. Anyway, thanks very much for coming, everyone. I appreciate it. Stick around and I'll think of it, okay, stick around.\r\n\r\n- Don't worry about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45540/file/118519#t=0.0,1396.0098"}]}]}]}