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for getting a little water here. It is water. It is not gin, as many newsmen might take on at this stage. It's delightful to be here, and I know that Dr. Atanasoff is with us in spirit. He's not been feeling very well lately. And I had him scheduled to come to Washington Lee University for two or three days later in the month, and he had to cancel out. He'd had some bad news from some tests taken in Baltimore. And it wasn't very bad. It was a little series of small, small strokes. His memory is very good on almost everything, except he has no memory of his present wife. Now that presents a problem, but they're dealing with it in a proper way. And I was talking with him on the telephone. Actually, we were both laughing about it. I imagine there are good many husbands who in one way or another would like to at least momentarily block out some little part of their memory of their wife. At any rate working with Dr. Atanasoff over a period of the years I was working on this book was really a great experience. And of all of the people that I worked with from heroes to scoundrels over a period of the last 45 years, he is the one who has probably made... His invention has made the greatest impact upon the lives of everyone and society. And I'm glad to be here to talk about his invention and to talk about what it can mean and should mean to all Iowa State faculty and all of the students here. It was 50 years ago this fall that John Vincent Atanasoff was working late in his office in the Physics Building, pulling together on a drafting table, the major concepts for a machine he hoped would provide a faster method of solving complicated simultaneous equations. By the fall of 1938, Dr. Atanasoff had been puzzling with this problem in one way or another, for more than a decade. And most of that period without measurable success. The problem had been there for ages. And there are a record of men tackling this since England's Charles Babbage made his first unsuccessful efforts in the middle of the 1800s, the Monroe calculator and international business machines tabulator had been in use for several decades, but they were analog devices and were much too slow. And at one time, Dr. Atanasoff considered the possibility of tying several of the Monroe calculators or IBM machines together to improve the complicated equation solving. But he discarded that idea as representing too little improvement. Atanasoff's frustration grew as he saw his bright students of mathematics and physics tied down for hours with the tedious routine of calculation. The frustration grew as he worked on his own doctorate in theoretic physics at the University of Wisconsin and felt much of his productive time was wasted and hours and hours spent on a Monroe calculator with routine figuring. When he returned to Iowa State as an Associate Professor of physics and mathematics, he was determined that there must be some way to solve the simultaneous equations. By the winter of 1937, Dr. Atanasoff had contemplated essentially all the possible ways to solve the problem. At the height of his frustration, he went to his office one cold evening in the winter of 1937, 38, and went for a drive. It was something he was accustomed to doing to soothe his mind and clarify his thinking. In this case, he drove several hundred miles East to Illinois Road House, and he often jokes that he really didn't drive over there to get a drink. Although he got one when he got there. Iowa was dry in that period of time, but genuinely, he went out to drive. And this was a way of clarifying his thinking. And when he sat there in the quiet of that tavern, over in Illinois, his thoughts became clear suddenly, and he put together all of the thinking that had been going into his work as an electrical engineer, as a mathematician, and as a theoretic physicist. He came up with these ideas. He would use electricity and electronics as the medium for his computer. In spite of the custom, he would use base two numbers, the binary system for his computer, at a time when people were trying to discourage anything in that area. Third, he would use condensers for memory and would use a generative or jogging process to avoid lapses that might cause leakages of power. And fourth, he would compute by direct logical action and not by a numeration as used in the analog computing devices. While he had worked out in a general way, the concept of the modern computer in the winter of 1937, they were only theoretic concepts that he believed would result in a machine that would give the solutions to the complicated linear equations. He still had to get his ideas down on paper in a manner that would convince others on the Iowa State faculty, that his concepts were worth exploration. His first job was with the drafting board, and the mathematical computations to convince himself that his ideas were really as good as he believed they were and were salable to the skeptical members of the faculty who would be reviewing his project under the tight fisted administrators at Iowa state, who would give final approval to all research grants in those depression years. 50 years ago, this fall Associate Professor Atanasoff then 35 years of age was immersed in the final drafting of the papers and the completing the mathematical calculations necessary for a formal request for a few hundred dollars to be used for the material and for the employment of a graduate student to work with him on the computer project. In the spring of 1939, Dr. Atanasoff received his grant, a huge sum, $650 to hire Clifford Berry, a brilliant graduate student, and also to buy material. He had to work that into it. Those were the first simple steps of a story that is almost unbelievable. Dr. Atanasoff's basic electronic digital computer concepts were stolen by Dr. John Mauchly, who was a visitor here on their campus in 1941. And those ideas were incorporated in ENIAC at the Moore School of Electrical Engineering at the University of Pennsylvania. The Iowa State College administration and the Chicago patent office failed to follow through on an application for patents on the Atanasoff-Berry computer. Had they followed through, it's doubtful if any students at Iowa State would have had to pay tuition these days. Because those concepts are in every computing device that's out there today. Dr. Atanasoff and Clifford Berry went into the Navy. Dr. Atanasoff went into the Navy, and Clifford Berry went into war industry in California. And they relied upon this Chicago patent lawyer to follow through. They didn't keep on his tail enough obviously, but they made periodic inquiries. And it's difficult to pin down specific responsibility for the failure showed at Iowa State. You must remember that in those days, there was a great deal of fluctuation on the staff. People were going into the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, they were going into war industry. There were a few who were here constantly through that period of time. Those who were here had new staff members coming in and they were buried with work. So I would assume, and looking the record over closely and Dr. Atanasoff has the same view that this was one of those projects that just fell between the shafts. And as he was at the Naval Ordinance Laboratory in Washington, DC, he made periodic inquiries back here. He was back here, periodically, went over to look at the machine, and I'm told that Clifford Berry came back, looked at the machine and they would put their hands on it lovingly. But they asked people what was taking place, and they couldn't find anybody who was in charge. And this went on for several years. And Dr. Atanasoff as is true in many of these, with many people of his inventive nature, they get through with one thing and they get involved in others. And perhaps if he had been totally diligent on this, he could have made something happen, but he was doing work for the Navy. He had dozens of projects for the Navy and during the same period of time, engaged in inventive things for the Navy that were really of great significance. But during this period of time, he was working for the Navy, Dr. Mauchly who initially... Dr. Mauchly was a very well educated man, in physics and mathematics. But somehow he didn't quite understand all of the things that Atanasoff had told him, all of the things he had read in Atanasoff's 35 paged book explaining his theories or in the explanations he'd received from Clifford Berry and Atanasoff. So he shows up at the laboratories, the Naval Ordinance Laboratories in Washington unannounced to pick Dr. Atanasoff's brain. Now he didn't say, \"I'm here to pick your brain.\" He says, \"Good to see you, John old boy,\" and how are you doing? And a few things like that. \"By the way, what about this?\" And Dr. Atanasoff, too trusting proceeded to explain some of these things. This would've been in 42 and 43. It wasn't until about a year later that Dr. Mauchly came in and said, \"By the way, John, I'm working on a computer. Now, it isn't anything like yours. It surely isn't.\" And Dr. Atanasoff interested in this subject, pushed his work back on the desk and said, \"Sit down, and tell me all about it.\" Mauchly is, \"I can't, it's classified military secrecy.\" And Dr. Atanasoff who'd been quite open and frank with Dr. Mauchly was disappointed and a little suspicious, but again, he got involved in his work. And this wasn't the only time. Mauchly came back several times and even came back with another fellow who was working with him on this, a fellow named Presper Eckert to make some specific inquiries on something that was really hanging them up. And Dr. Atanasoff gave them some papers that had the solution for that little problem, but this thievery, and that's what it was, of these concepts was hidden successfully under a national security classification until some point in the early 50s. Dr. Atanasoff never did see. He saw the ENIAC machine. But when you look at the outside, you had no concept of what was on the inside. And Dr. Mauchly had told him this is different than yours. I can't tell you how different it is. His first indication of just what had happened came when a lawyer for IBM came and visited him at his home in Frederick, Maryland, and said, \"If you will cooperate with us, we can break the Mauchly Eckert patents.\" Dr. Atanasoff was genuinely enthusiastic about this. IBM, a pretty big place, a pretty big operation. They would have the money to really go into this. And he was gonna cooperate and he had some conversations with this lawyer. Then he didn't hear anything from the lawyer for... He never heard anything from that lawyer. But a few years later, he found out that IBM had taken the information that they had from him and had shoe horned themselves into a patent sharing agreement with Sperry Rand. Very interesting big business operations. From that time on, Dr. Atanasoff was rather suspicious of lawyers for big corporations. In fact, there were two or three who came along during that period of time, who he gave rather short shift to simply because of his suspicions about the IBM people in Sperry Rand. One thing that broke this whole matter apart, and I don't know whether Dr. R.K. Richards is in the audience or not. I wish he would stand. And if there's someone... Dr. R.K. Richards is the man who lit the candle that illuminated the whole picture. Dr. Richards had graduated electrical engineering here from Iowa State and got his PhD, I think it was from MIT. Am I right? And he was in the New York area working for IBM and also writing books on technical matters dealing with computers. In 1962, he'd had enough of the East Coast and decided to come back to Ames where he had farming interests. And at the same time he was working on a computer history. And in that computer history and going into that, he mused briefly that when he was in college here at Iowa State, he had been a casual friend of cliff Berry. They were both radio hams, and he had gone over to the Physics Building with Cliff on one occasion, and Cliff had kinda in a vague way, explained and shown him some computer project that he was working on. And Dr. Richards, at that point mused, I wonder if anything ever happened on that. I wonder where this fits in the computer history. There wasn't anything in any of the books. He came out here to Iowa State and he went to the library to try to find something about it. There was nothing in the library. He searched quite widely and in literature, there wasn't anything. He talked to a number of people in the faculty, and they remembered that there was something like this, but they didn't know any of the detail. And then he had a conversation with Sam Legvold, and Professor Sam Legvold had retrieved one of the drums of the ABC computer. Also Sam Legvold was a close friend of Sochen and Maya of both Dr. Atanasoff and Berry. He had been working on a classified Navy project with Dr. Atanasoff in the same period of time when Cliff Berry was working with him on the computer. And he didn't learn much about the computer from Dr. Atanasoff because he wouldn't, but he was there with Cliff Berry and they were exchanging kind of general views. And Sam did not recall any of the technical things, but he had enough faith in Cliff that he was sure it was something of some importance. And he had enough faith in Dr. Atanasoff. And that would've been the thing that really ignited R.K. Richards' interest in this. And then he very systematically went through the business of trying to get the plans to pull them together, urging Dr. Atanasoff. Dr. Atanasoff was very enthusiastic about somebody getting into this, but he was building a house. He was building it himself. And he was caught up with the plans, it was a different kind of a house. And he really didn't have time to dig into his papers. And besides his papers were strung all over, which was unfortunate. But then Dr. Richards got a hold of Cliff Berry. And Cliff Berry was very young and enthusiastic about this and had the time and took the time to write letters back to Dr. Richards. And that exchange of correspondence was a classic search for the truth, with the questions being very clear and precise, and the answers being very clear and illuminating the issue. And by the time there was this exchange of correspondence, Dr. Richards had been successful in finding out where Dr. Mauchly was. And after he got this correspondence from Cliff Berry, he finally got ahold of Dr. Mauchly at his home. Dr. Mauchly didn't want to talk about this at all. But there were some things. Now he was very adamant in saying that he hadn't been out here at Iowa State for a week, except Berry was all wrong on that. He'd been out here five days. Then he didn't want to go into any of the other detail. Oh yes, he was out here. And yes he talked with Dr. Atanasoff. He didn't really know who Berry... He didn't even remember Berry's name. This was a situation where he had what he wanted. Dr. Richards had the acknowledgement that he had been out here in night. And he couldn't even remember what year. I'm sure it was faking on that one too. He couldn't remember it was 40 or 41. And that's just exactly the way Richards put this in his book on computers. There was one and a half pages in that book that laid out that indeed about three points that he made. The computer was built between 38, and 41, 42. That Dr. Mauchly was out here in 41. But in 42, Dr. Mauchly had initiated a project for ENIAC. Those three points. And from that, that was what led the lawyers... I'd say, it's amazing how many Iowa State College electrical engineers were involved in this. At that stage, it was Henry Hanson who had graduated in Dr. Richards class, who was general counsel for Honeywell. And he got a hold of Dr. Richards' book and saw this. And Honeywell was one of about six or seven firms who were particularly outraged in that particular period of time. But the fact that Sperry Rand was charging $20 million, $20 million, for each firm that wanted to build computers. It turned out they were a little greedy, and that was a downfall. Instead they asked for 5 million, they asked for 10 million, Honeywell, Control Data might have accepted it. But they asked for 20 million. And there were about a half a dozen firms that contemplated litigation. The firms that actually went into litigation were Honeywell and Control Data. Control Data took theirs up in Baltimore. Honeywell took it up Minneapolis. And then after a period of... This was long legislation, probably as long a record has ever been produced. Seven years of litigation, 135 days of trial, Dr. Mauchly was on the stand for two weeks examination and cross-examination. Dr. Atanasoff was on the stand for two weeks examination and cross-examination. There is no institution in this country or in the world that could have done the dredging of all the facts that was done in that case. Sperry Rand had the opportunity to put on the stand any witnesses and any amount of corroborative documents to support Dr. Mauchly. Honeywell had the same opportunity with regard to Dr. Atanasoff. And this is where I might say that my investigations and my legal training came in handy. Actually, I'm no mathematician. I'm sure as hell no theoretic physicist. It took me about two or three months to even get to the point where I could deal comfortably with some of these concepts and right with any fluidity. But I have had a little experience on investigations over a period of about 40 years. And Dr. Atanasoff was corroborated up to here. That means the network of documents and testimony supporting the fact that there had been an operational computer built here between 38 and 42 was solid. They didn't have the computer, unfortunately, that had been destroyed, but they had the plans. And at that particular juncture, there was testimony in the court that essentially anyone with those plans and with the knowledge there is today could have built an operational computer. And you heard the papers, the projects that were there, and you heard the testimony of Sam Legvold, and you heard the letters from Cliff Berry, which were testimony from the grave by that time because Cliff Berry died mysteriously in late 62, but his letters from the grave were the strongest corroboration possible because his comments about Dr. Mauchly in the letters were not accusatory. When he wrote to the Dr. Richards, he was simply setting out yes, Dr. Mauchly was there. Yes, we did this. He was not accusing Dr. Mauchly of anything, but those letters were really strong. But at the same token, the record was devoid of any evidence supportive of Dr. Mauchly having done anything with electronic computing prior to 1941, when he met Dr. Atanasoff. In addition, Dr. Atanasoff turned out was really a squirrel with regard to letters that he received in this. And he didn't even know how complete his record was. He got going back through his file at the request of these lawyers from Honeywell, and he runs into a letter from Dr. Mauchly in late June telling him what a great machine he had. And why this was really something and just absolutely a why with enthusiasm. And then in September, he had another letter. And at this stage, Dr. Mauchly was saying, \"Well, you know, you've got a hell of a great idea there. And I'd like to go in with you on a partnership. If Iowa state isn't interested, why don't you come out here at University of Pennsylvania? I'm sure we can get something going on this.\" And he talked about an Atanasoff computer. Well, Dr. Atanasoff hadn't screwed anything from Mauchly indicating he had any knowledge in this field at all. So why do you go into a partnership with somebody where you're the guy who is buying the ship and you've got all the knowledge? And so he wrote back, a very nice letter, much nicer letter than I might've written under the circumstances. Saying, \"Well, now, I still trust you John old boy, but I hope you understand that material that I haven't talked to you about was all incompetence. We've got lawyers trying to get a patent going on this.\" And he never heard anything back from Mauchly. It was, say, the light from Dr. Richards that set the whole thing going. If he had not written this computer history and worked this page and a half of material in, the Honeywell lawyers would never have known about it. Charles Paul who was the main investigator on the Honeywell would never have been able to put together the devastating record that was put together here. And we're fortunate that it took place at that stage because Dr. Mauchly was on the stand. He had the opportunity to tell his story. If Dr. Mauchly had been dead or Dr. Atanasoff, we would never know. This would never have been solved. And if Sam Legvold had not remembered and been enthusiastic about the ABC computer, chances are that Dr. Richards might have lost his enthusiasm. But he found the first evidence. Yes, there was a computer. Yes, Dr. Atanasoff worked on it. Yes, Berry worked on it. I have great faith in them. They were enthusiastic about this. And that was what set the whole thing in motion. There's movement on, at the present time, and I'm involved in it to some degree to try to get Dr. Atanasoff a presidential medal. Either of these would be appropriate, but there is Presidential Medal of Science that's given several times during the year. And there's also the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is probably a little more prestigious. And the president can give that at any stage. The governor of Iowa, Congressman Neal Smith, Senator Grassley, President Eaton of Iowa State, are involved in this. And there's a group of engineers and scientists that the Naval Laboratories in Maryland, I forget the name of the place now, who are involved in this effort and have done considerable work on this. I might say that I have written a letter. And one of the most important things on this, I think is the fact that the Coors Foundation, which gave Dr. Atanasoff their first American Ingenuity Award about three years ago, is involved in this. They are great political supporters of Ronald Reagan, and that occasionally is helpful. And it won't hurt. I'm sure of that. And their pitch is essentially the same as I have made. And I wrote a letter to President Reagan just a matter of a few weeks ago. And I'll just read you parts of that at least to give you an idea of what the pitch is. And I see no reason why this will not be done eventually. I would hope that it would be done while Dr. Atanasoff is still with us and is able to enjoy fully what it means. \"Dear Mr. President, I'm writing in support of Mr. Joseph Coors nomination of John Vincent Atanasoff to receive the Medal of Freedom for his invention of the first electronic digital computer at Iowa State College in 1937, 41 period. Dr. Atanasoff, now 85 years old was teaching at Iowa State in the same year that you were most active as a sports broadcaster from Iowa's Voice of the Middle West, that'd be Aho de Moines, His experimentations with electronics as the answer to highly complicated problems in mathematics and physics was taking place in the Physics Building on the Iowa State campus in the same period of time when you were in around Ames covering Iowa State College athletics. A federal court decision in 1973 established firmly that Dr. Vincent Atanasoff was the inventor of the first electronic digital computer. And that the United States has a solid documented plan to having the first electronic computing device. One of the truly great inventions of this century. However, to date, there has been no recognition by the United States government of Dr. Atanasoff's achievement despite honors accorded to him by universities, colleges, and other scientific and civic groups. This lack of recognition of Dr. Atanasoff's great achievement by the United States government is inexplicable in the light of the honors he has received from such academic institutions, University of Wisconsin, University of Florida, Iowa State University, and numerous others. Dr. Atanasoff has been awarded the Governor Science Medal by Iowa governor, Terry Branstad. Also has been awarded holy medal, the American Society of Mechanical Engineers, the Computer Pioneer Award, and the Institute of Electronic Engineers for having designed the first electronic computer from Cyril memory. Even before the United States district court decision, 1973, the Bulgarian Academy of Science had done its own investigation and recognized Dr. Atanasoff as the inventor of the first electronic digital computer. On the recommendations of the Bulgarian Academy of Science, the Bulgarian parliament boarded him its highest honor, the Order of Cyril and Methodius, First Class. In 1986, Dr. Atanasoff was awarded the Coors American Ingenuity Award for his invention. While I believe it is inevitable that Dr. Atanasoff will eventually receive the national recognition he deserves, time is running out. Dr. Atanasoff, at 85 is in poor health. And I believe it is important that he be awarded the Medal of Freedom while he is still with us to serve this recognition by the highest levels of our government. I have researched his outstanding records and inventive years for the US Navy in World War II, and since my book, Atanasoff: Forgotten Father of Computer. I am confident that an award of the Medal of Freedom to Dr. Atanasoff will reflect honor upon those who recognize his achievement with a Medal of Freedom and upon past recipients of this prestigious award. Most important, the claim of the United States to being first in the invention of an electronic computing machine rests upon the record of Dr. Atanasoff as established in the district court in Minneapolis. Equal important, a Medal of Freedom to Dr. Atanasoff would create the opportunity to focus attention upon the importance of education in mathematics, physics, and other sciences at a time when science teachers need this recognition.\" Dr. Atanasoff was grand parade marshal at Iowa State VEISHEA celebration in May, 1988. And I'm sure you recall that you were accorded that honor by Iowa state in 1957. A time before you became involved in active politics. Anyway, I am hopeful that that letter and a number of others, and I personally have a feeling that the Coors support will be dominant, a factor that might move that matter. Now, I think that it's most important that people go to Iowa State here. Remember that something great took place here. And I'm delighted to see that President Eaton has made reference to this matter in countless speeches over the last year or two. And I'm also delighted that there is an Atanasoff Building on campus. I think these are the types of things that inspire students and let them see and inspire other professors. That great things were done here by a couple of men who were geniuses. And I'm sure that there are a large number of others here who could do the same or greater things that would be in the faculty and also the student body. Sometimes because things don't fall in line fast enough, people get discouraged. Dr. Atanasoff worked on this matter in one way or another for 10 or 15 years. 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better,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40476/file/247511#t=53.64,56.232"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40476/file/247511/transcript/68904/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it's this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40476/file/247511#t=57.159,60.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40476/file/247511/transcript/68904/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"generous quality of Doctor Atanasoff's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40476/file/247511#t=61.74,65.18"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40476/file/247511/transcript/68904/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I find to be most remarkable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40476/file/247511#t=65.18,68.359"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40476/file/247511/transcript/68904/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I also think that 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