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Good evening, I'm Corinne Whitlatch, the Middle East program coordinator from, I'm going to turn it up a little bit. I'm Corinne Whitlatch. Is that okay. The Middle East program coordinator for the AFSC here in Des Moines. Joining me in welcoming you tonight are the other organizations that made this possible. The Iowa Humanities Board, who is carrying the primary financial support needed and the other organizations in our community that are providing the emotional and mailing list help that's needed. Those organizations are the American Association of University Women, the UNA of Iowa, United Nations Association, a new organization maybe you haven't heard of called CIPR, which is the Consortium on International Peace and Reconciliation. This is an organization within the Iowa inner church forum. The other organizations are the Iowa Peace Network and the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom. We hope that you will fill out one of these registration cards and leave it on the desk out there and I wanna remind you that this evening's talk is the keynote to a conference that will take place tomorrow, where there will be workshops discussing the possibilities of coexistence in its various dimensions. There are brochures out there on the table that describe tomorrow's workshop and we hope that many of you can join us then. We have prepared information packets that have many copies of news articles, United Nations papers that are relevant to this issue, any number of things. We have only a limited number of these and they are free and you can pick one up when you leave tonight or if you're coming tomorrow, get it tomorrow but please don't take one tonight and one tomorrow. Okay, I'd like to introduce you to this evenings programs participants. You'll be hearing from Hank Walnuts who's the director of the AFSC here in Des Moines and I'd like him to take a few minutes to tell you about the American Friends Service Committee's involvement in the Middle East over the past few years so you'll have an understanding of why I'm here before you tonight. Terry Meister, who is also here is the Mideast program director in St. Louis and she'll be moderating the discussion. She'll set forth some guidelines for that discussion after the speakers. Our featured speakers this evening are Dr. Menachem Brinker, who is here in the blue and Dr. Elias Tuma. If you watched Mary Jane O'Dell's program tonight you saw a real hot on the tape interview with Dr. Brinker that was made this afternoon. This morning, we had a press conference and there was a good report of that interview in this evenings paper so when you get home, I hope you pull out that paper. Hank, could you take a moment now and tell us about the AFSC\r\n\r\n- I won't tell you about all of the AFSC. I'll just tell you about the American Friends Service Committee's work in the Middle East. The AFSC has been deeply involved for decades in the human and political problems of Jews and Arabs. This stems from our fundamental belief in the rights of people to determine their own future and then the peaceful resolution of conflict. The AFSC has worked with Jews, Israelis, Palestinian Arabs and other Arab people for 48 years from 1931 until the war. Quaker centers in Europe with the assistance of the AFSC help refugees coming out of Germany to immigrate to the U.S. under the sponsorship of American Quakers. In 1938, after the horror of the Night of Broken Glass, a delegation of three American Quakers representing the AFSC traveled to Berlin to urge a different cause on the German government. The delegation met with the Gestapo and as a result for awhile, more orderly arrangements were made for people to leave the country with the assistance of Quaker work. The struggle to assist Jews to immigrate to the United States went on for many years. From 1931 until 1945, AFSC spent about $4.5 million in this effort. It represented one third of the committee's budget at that time, though patently negligent relative to the needs of the Jewish people during those terrible years. The AFSC's first involvement in the Middle East itself began in 1948 in response to an invitation from the United Nations, the American Friends Service Committee, we assumed responsibility under the auspices of the UN for providing food, clothing, tents and medical supplies to 250,000 Palestinian Arab refugees on the Gaza Strip. This work continued until 1950. During this time American and British Quakers worked with Palestinian refugees in the Gaza Strip, West Bank and Jordan on the problems of community organization, development and early childhood education. In East Jerusalem currently, we have established a community information and legal services project in association with Ben-Gurion University, we are working on a program of special education for Israeli Jews in the Negev region. The AFSC also operates 13 kindergartens in the refugee camps of Palestinian Arabs in the Gaza Strip. In the United States, the American Friends Service Committee continues its peace education work on Middle East issues by public education efforts such as this meeting tonight and the conference tomorrow. The AFSC has staff working on Middle East issues in 14 U.S. cities. All people have a vital stake in the political, economic and social future of the Middle East and the outcome of the Arab-Israeli conflict. All people will benefit from a settlement but only if it is a just one for the people of Israel, for the Palestinians and for Arab countries. Each of us must give priority to peace in the Middle East. On behalf of the AFSC I welcome you tonight to this program and it is our wish that in some minor way this can contribute to the work of peace in the Middle East.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Hank. First, I'd like to introduce you to Dr. Elias Tuma. Dr. Tuma was born on the West Bank and grew to adulthood on the West Bank. He came to America in 1955 and did his graduate educational work here. He has his degree as a doctorate of economics and is a teacher at the University of California Davis. For many years, Dr. Tuma has been doing special research and writing and reading in the area of the economic feasibility of a Palestinian State. A few years ago he met a Jew who was also doing similar research and recently they've published a book entitled \"The Economic Case for Palestine\". There's a copy of that book out there if you'd be interested in that. We welcome him here tonight and Dr. Tuma. Dr. Tuma is going to be interviewed tomorrow by National Public. You can stand up. If you listen carefully to All Things Considered during the next few days, you'll be hearing Dr. Tuma. That's one of my favorite programs.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. I'm delighted to see you here. You are being bombarded with all of these programs, morning and afternoon and evening and on TV and the newspapers and so on. I hope it doesn't become counterproductive. There is a danger of that. I'm interested that I was born on the West Bank. I was about to object to that because I wasn't born on the West Bank as it is known today but Dr. Brinker said, where is west of the Jordan anyway? So, but I was born in in a little village in the north, in the Galilee near Nazareth, it's called Kafr Yasif And so I'm not from the occupied territories as they are known now but I wonder if we were to apply this idea of west of the Jordan and east of the Jordan, I'd have to throw away my notes and start all over. Preparing notes has been a problem for me because the events have been moving very fast. I heard last night, Mr. Begin speak on and he introduced something that may become a famous thing. What I call the three nevers. He has decided never to go back to the 1967 borders, never to divide Jerusalem and never to establish an independent Palestinian State and this afternoon I read in the paper, it came I think earlier than the afternoon but I saw it in the afternoon. Saudi Arabia issued a call of war or for war against Israel and this was in the Wall Street Journal as a response to Mr. Begin's statement. The evaluation of these three r's by Mr. Begin would almost make me change my evaluation of the treaty that seems to be eminent now. There is a treaty that is pending between Egypt and Israel because these three nevers suggest that maybe the hope for peace is much gloomier than it was before he made these statements. The hope of course is that, not only he will change but those three nevers will be removed because without removing them, it is unlikely that the treaty will be a success. The hope in this is not to come from trusting in Mr. Begin. I think the hope is that these three nevers will give more incentive to the Palestinians to continue their struggle for changing them into what may be acceptable. The Palestinians obviously do not expect Mr. Begin to give them freedom. Freedom is never given actually. Freedom must be taken. And the treaty which will be signed, I think it will be signed may be a vehicle for moving from this sort of gloomy evaluation I'm giving to a much happier one where it will be only a first step on the road to a peaceful settlement and coexistence. The hope of course is that it will be by political means and not by violent means. Why these three nevers must be removed because they must be removed if we want peace to take place. For the peace to be possible and lasting, it has to deal with the issue that is at the heart of the problem. The issue that is at the heart of the problem is the Palestinians and the future of the Palestinians. It is not the Sinai and it is not the conflict between Egypt and Israel. That conflict is tangential. As a matter of fact, the Sinai was offered to Egypt a long time ago. It was offered after the '67 wars. It was offered in 1973. If it would be a return for signing a treaty separately from the rest of the Arab countries and that offer was not taken. The heart of the problem is the Palestinian issue. What happens to the more than 3 million people who are at the moment without a state, without the national identity as recognized in international circles, at least within territories and boundaries that they can call their own. These three nevers must be removed because on the level of security, security issue that seems to be an important issue in all debates on the matter of the Middle East because on the security issue, not to remove those nevers, never to return to the 1967 borders, never to allow the division of Jerusalem, never to allow a Palestinian State will be contradictory to the idea of security. Security in the long run will require accepting the idea, accepting a formula that war territorial gains cannot be retained. If we accept that war territorial gains can be retained by the victor we will be giving a logic, the logical argument for the Palestinians and for the Arabs not to stop their violent struggle at the moment but continue until they are the victors and as a matter of fact there are many who say, the territory was taken by war and it must be regained by war. And if we want to break that kind of an argument, then we must accept the formula that war territorial gains must be returned or at least returnable and anything that is not returned must be only by negotiation and not by the power of arms and the power of the military. The other reason why these nevers must be removed is that only by creating mutual acceptance can security be guaranteed. You can bring in all the armies in the word and stand them there on the borders. You can separate the two groups but you cannot create security and we can, we already see that regardless of all the defense expenditure, the security is not guaranteed and I think Dr. Brinker would probably talk about that. What the insecurity situation in Israel is. Regardless of all the expenditure, all the jets and all the tanks and the $3 billion or 37% of the national income that Israel spends on its military. Nevertheless, the security is not there and therefore mutual acceptance between the two parties is essential for that security and that will not come without removing one of those three nevers. It's the self-determination idea. Those nevers must be removed also because the independence or the self-determination and the security are tied to a third dimension in the argument and that is the economic viability of the Palestinian economy, wherever they are. Whatever feature the Palestinian unit is going to take, it requires it to become economically viable and it is not going to be economically viable, able to survive and not only survive but offer its citizens an acceptable and decent standard of living unless they are free to make policy and unless they are secure and therefore the three aspects are related. So the three benefits we want, which will be mutual are parallel to the three nevers that we must remove. I would like to talk about this in a little more detail. Why should Israel for example go to the 1967 borders, regardless of what Mr. Begin has said then he's known to change his mind when it seems to be politically convenient and the assumption is he will. Well, the reason for this, again, in terms of feasibility, in terms of the realism, first of all, any solution must have an acceptable formula in terms of boundaries. What are the boundaries for the state? And in this case, one can find various types of arguments for different kinds of boundaries. If I were asked in a previous publication I wrote, the most logical approach is to go back to the 1947 partition plan and I would have done that at this time had the United Nations not changed its position in a sense by going to the 1967 borders. In other words, there must be a logic to the boundaries we choose and the logic of the situation at the moment in terms of political international legitimacy, the United Nations has in its Resolution 242 mentioned the occupied territories in the 1967 war. The distribution of population is another argument and the third argument is the fact that at the moment, the ceasefire, the truce exist in those boundaries and therefore it seems that this is the most realistic boundary that can be utilized as the boundary between the two groups. In the United Nations Resolution, some people of course debate them, whether they meant the 1967 boundaries or not as they are now, whether it's all the territories to be withdrawn from or some territories to be withdrawn from. It seems to me that any modification must be consistent with one of the three dimensions I said, I mentioned. The self-determination idea. The freedom of policymaking and therefore any modification must be done in cooperation between the two parties and the same applies to East Jerusalem. Some people say West Bank but do you mean also East Jerusalem? It is not a question whether one means it or not. The formula for peaceful coexistence requires that we accept the idea that war territorial gains cannot be retained by force like that. And that has nothing exceptional about it with respect to East Jerusalem. The only exception can be by negotiation between the two parties. What kind of a formula can be applied to avoid dividing the city in civil matters, dividing the city in terms of mobility but in terms of politics, I do not think that the determination of Mr. Begin that Israel will never allow Jerusalem to be divided. If he means it in every respect that will lead to peace, I think it will lead just away from peace in that case. One question that has been raised and it's often raised, why do the Palestinians have to have a state or why do they need self-determination? There is an autonomy plan right now, which Mr. Carter has sort of accepted. Mr. Begin, I don't know if he's proud to have introduced it but he has never disowned it so far, at least. But the autonomy plan is defective. It's a useless plan. It does not bring any benefits to the Palestinian people that need some benefits to improve their situation. I have at least 13 points, 13 arguments against that plan. I wrote them down and I sent them to President Carter and to President Sadat and to Mr. Arafat and to many people. I'm not sure anybody read them. I know, I think Mr. Arafat read them because he wrote to me about it. But the point here is that the autonomy plan as such is a defective plan. The question that is more important is whether we have a better plan that will be consistent with the idea of self-determination because self-determination is the heart of the problem here. The two main points are withdrawal from the occupied territories and the right of self-determination. Now why the self-determination is important in this case. The question is not rhetorical, it is not simply for propaganda purposes, it is a basic issue in the life of the Palestinians. For one thing, the Palestinians have been struggling and I think they will continue to struggle for national identity. Question of national identity. The idea of sovereignty as a people and self-determination will be a prerequisite for that and I think people of the United States probably are the best equipped to understand this. They revolted for it. They wanted it, they have it, they have supported it in other parts of the world and it would be rhetorical of me to add anymore to that. But for the Palestinian peoples, it is something I don't think they can compromise on. Another, there is another reason for this and that is the trend in the world today. After the Second World War, the tendency has been for peoples in various parts of the world to seek freedom and independence and I don't, I have not seen it anywhere written that freedom can be for some but not for others or some people should have more freedom than others for one reason, or in terms of the logic of it. Sure sometimes we do it by force. We deprive certain people of the freedoms but the tendency in the world has been to spread freedom and independence and that definitely applies to the Palestinians as well. There is the question of realism involved here. The acceptance of the right of self-determination at least from my standpoint and I should have said this before, I do not represent any Palestinian group. I do not represent the PLO. I wish I could represent them but so far I have not been asked. I'm not sure they would accept my views either. But from my standpoint the recognition of the right of self-determination by the Palestinians is probably the surest and shortest cut on the road to end the violent conflict and to create some kind of peaceful coexistence. And I say some kind, because it has to be what kind of existence will have to be determined by the two parties and no one from the outside can tell them what kind of coexistence it should be. These are benefits that will probably be for the advantage of the Palestinians to have self-determination but self-determination also implies the responsibilities. And it goes without saying that if the Palestinians assume self-determination and they will have options, what kind of government they will set up, what kind of relations they will have with their neighbors within the context of course of coexistence because that would have to be a condition for both parties. I mentioned the idea of security and here it has to be coexistence within that context of coexistence. They may have options of Federation with Jordan or with Egypt or with both separately or combined. They may have, they have the option of cooperating with Israel. They have the option of being totally independent. In whichever way they decide, they would carry the responsibilities of their decision. And one of the responsibilities will have to be the respect of the sovereignty and independence of their neighbors and this is as close to the idea of peaceful coexistence as any two nations can come to and therefore, when we call for self-determination it is not only a benefit for one party, it will have to be a benefit for both parties. The self-determination has another aspect to it in addition to the idea of coexistence. It is required as part of the responsibility, it gives that group the responsibility to take care of the economic aspects or the economic requirements of life of the group. I'm an economist, so I have to talk a little bit about economics. The creation of a state is a big economic burden and therefore the first responsibility of the Palestinian State, I'm assuming that self-determination will lead to a Palestinian State because I think that will be the option of the Palestinian people to have a state of their own. The first responsibility will be to create a viable economy for the people. What does that imply? It implies to start with a minimum expenditure on defense. A state that is new, that is small, that is relatively poverty-stricken in terms of resources, the State of Palestine will not have many resources, not any more than Israel has. Israel is poverty-stricken, Israel doesn't have any real resources. Both parties as a matter of fact will have only one major resource and that is the human resource. Natural resources are very few. The land is quite limited. Water is quite scarce and there isn't much to brag about except this real state on which is good for construction purposes only but the human resource is important. This state cannot afford not only materially but they cannot afford in the sense of responsibility to spend much on arms and military and therefore one of the responsibilities will be to devote as much of the resources available to the creation or reconstruction of the economy, the rehabilitation of the Palestinians, especially those who would be returning, who would be homeless in order to build for them the home that they will need. We did quite a bit of research in this. What it will take to create the Palestinian State. I will just give you a few figures to just go from the rhetorical part, give you some facts that we are dealing with. The book that was mentioned in introduction is a technical book. It's not a political book. It is a book in economics and what we estimated here, the state would have roughly 2.8 million people within five years of its creation. These would be those who live at the moment in the occupied territories but with addition to those people we think will be returning The labor force within the five-year period will be something like 650,000 people and these will have to be employed. We estimate that the amount of water available at the moment will be double by means of efficient use and by means of more drilling and simply better utilization of what there is. Out of this we would be able to have roughly 100,000 people employed in agriculture. With modern technology, these would be as advanced as any in the region. We would expect construction, building homes and factories and whatever the construction industry to employ something like 100,000 people, probably a little more than that. We would expect the services, government services, the trading, commerce, tourism and all that to carry out a major part of the labor force, almost half or 318,000 to be specific, that's what we estimated. We expect industry and manufacturing to take the residual and that would be an increasing number as the demand for labor in the other sectors decreases. In other words, there is an implication here. Is a very important implication that in addition to the human resources the state must depend on manufacturing and industry. There is nothing else to depend on and the industry must be developed in such a way that it can absorb the population as the other industries or as construction begins to decline when the construction business stabilizes after the big waves of returning refugees or , which means now we'll have to add at least 50% because of the inflation. With this amount, we would be able to generate a national per capita income, national per capita income of $800 a year, again in 1975 prices and if we bring it up 50%, $1,200 a year is respectable per capita income in the Middle East. It is much lower than the Israeli per capita income but it will not be out of line with situation in the other countries of the region. Where will this come from? Where will this money come from? I think many people would think this is really a very small amount compared with what has been spent on arms and so on, because this is much less than for the five-year period, much less than Egypt and Israel spent in the 1973 war alone, much less than that and therefore the amount is not a large amount yet it has to come from somewhere and where will it come from? I'll give you these points only in figures and then move on to other aspects. We think the Palestinians will obviously carry their responsibility by saving. They will have to save and invest the modest amount of 15% of their income. In the early period it's going to be very hard but I think they will do it. It may be much more than that but at least a modest estimate will be 15%. We expect the United Nations to continue its services for the period of transition, which we expect to be something like five years. The amount they spend is not very large but it is essential primarily because of the experience of the United Nations in rehabilitation of the people, in relocating people, in the logistics of it. So this is extremely important. We expect the State of Israel to pay compensation for any land and property that cannot be retained. We have tried to make an estimate of the value of this. This is extremely hard because even though the Government of Israel has records of everything, I'm not sure the value and the records are either totally open, accessible to us or accurate, especially for the early period. In any case, we did depend. I say we, because I have a coauthor on that book and I must recognize him for that purpose. The estimate comes from United Nations, estimates made in 1950,51 of the land and property abandoned in 1948. This does not include 1967 and primarily because we do not expect the 1967 land and territory to be left behind. All that will be returned. The amount after we added to it, 6% a year and compounded it, comes to about $3 billion to be expended over a period of five years but we make full disclaim on the accuracy of this but we regard it as a point of departure. It can be raised. It can be lowered by negotiation between the two parties. The residual. No, not before the residual, we expect the foreign countries to give some aid, U.S. I'm sure will want to carry, probably the U.S. government will be upset if they wouldn't ask to give some aid. So I think they will give some, Germany, France, England, Russia, China, I think they will all be willing to contribute some. We can ask for $1.1 billion in total. The residual and this is an important part to be paid, not because of the quantity but because of the responsibility attached to it, the residual, we expect the Arab countries to set up an Arab fund for Palestine that will fund this and our estimate is something 2.4 billion only but again, this will be the residual. Whatever the amount, we expect the Arab countries to accept that responsibility and we did not approach any of the Arab countries but we are hopeful and optimistic that this will not be a problem. The responsibility however, in addition to the economic aspect, which goes with self-determination is the creation of an atmosphere for the mutual acceptance. And here I would like, this might sound like simply rhetorical but I think it is a fact of life because security for one is necessary for the security of the other and the responsibility on creating the atmosphere for mutual acceptance will have to fall on the peoples of the two states, side by side and self-determination will make it necessary for those people to carry that responsibility. Well, I can go on and on and I'm sure we don't wanna hear any more of this. I would just want to ask, how do we get there? What are the steps? What shall we do? Of course, I wish they would ask me. They have never really asked me but I keep telling them anyway. Well, if we look at the various parties, I would like to put my main interest here in the behavior of the Palestinians and Israelis. Mr. Sadat has made up his mind. I think the Saudi leaders, I'm not sure whether they are worrying about the headlines of their paper or not but tomorrow is another day, there'll be another headline. What I would like to ask is what should the Israelis and the Palestinians do? And the U.S. a little bit. I think the first condition for Israel at the moment to reach some kind of peaceful coexistence, the first condition is a scaling down and eventual cessation, I say eventual because these things take a little time at least, scaling down and cessation of oppression, deportation, discrimination and arbitrary actions against the Arabs within Israel and in the occupied territories. Second thing, which is at least equally important or even more important as a sign of goodwill, cessation by Israel to establish settlements in the occupied territories because these lead not only to the establishment of settlements, they usually lead to land expropriation, to domination, to renewed discrimination and you cannot have these together and say we want peace. They just don't go together, period and this has to come to an end. At the same time a condition that must be satisfied is a scaling down and cessation of violence by the PLO. You cannot ask one party to stop the unaccepted behavior and let the other party go on with what it is doing if we want that kind of goodwill to be shown. A more important and probably more courageous step, which probably two years ago would have been called impossible, utopian, idealistic, nonsensical, is no longer any of these is to take some brave steps and probably dramatic ones by the PLO to challenge Israel and prove it's interest in peace the way President Sadat challenged Israeli 16 months ago. We hear from Israel, from Israeli leaders that the only problem is recognition of the existence of Israel, cessation of violence, wanting to live with Israelis side by side. Frankly with the present government in Israel, I don't believe a word of it but then who am I to say, let us challenge them. Let's find out. Do they really mean it? Let us put them on the spot. If they mean it, the conditions can be clear cut, withdrawal and recognition of self-determination and here we are ready to negotiate. This is probably, as I said two years ago would have been called nonsensical but President Sadat has proved it is not nonsensical, it can be done. He put Mr. Begin on the spot. He thought he will not accept it and Mr. Begin put Mr. Sadat on the spot, he thought he will not come to Jerusalem and they both found themselves in a trap and I think they are probably happy about it but at least the assumption is it will lead to something positive. I can apply the same thing to the Israelis. Israelis suggest that the PLO is not willing to accept the existence of Israel or the Palestinians want to destroy Israel. They do not want peace. They do not want coexistence. I think they can do exactly the same thing, let us challenge the PLO. Do you really mean it? That withdrawal and recognition of self-determination will end the conflict. Let's put them on the spot and I think there will be surprises and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if they will take that step one or the other. In the case of the PLO, I'm not suggesting things that are out of my own thinking. I heard yesterday Arafat speak and I read his interview with Congressman Findley where he said, withdrawal from the occupied territories and recognition of the right of self-determination will end the violent conflict. I also heard President Assad of Syria addressing the Trade Union Federation, the Arab Trade Union Federation in a long speech in Arabic in which he was quite explicit, withdrawal from the territories and recognition of the rights of the Palestinians for self-determination will end the violent conflict, doesn't mean it will end all conflict but then we will deal with those by political means. Let us put them on the spot. Let's find out if that's what they mean and I think it can be done. The last condition that I wanna talk about is what the U.S. can do and in this case I am in many ways terribly disappointed at our policy, policy of the U.S. government which has been in many ways blind, misguided, misinformed and in many ways with the fixation, it is not flexible at all. We did that with China, we hit our head or they hit their head, they didn't ask me. Again, I don't think they asked many people in the United States cause policy-making is done behind closed doors and they ignored the existence of China for 25 years. That giant country was not recognized. Now quickly of course we are friends and relatives. We have even exchange. How long will we do this with the PLO and with the Palestinians? The PLO is recognized by 102 countries, probably 103 now in the United Nations. It is recognized by the Arab League and most important of all, as best as I could determine, they are recognized by a vast majority of the Palestinian people as their representatives. Why should any outside country, especially a giant respectable country like the United States ignore that fact. So what I would like to suggest is that it is high time for our policy to recognize the Palestinian rights and their representatives and work through them to modify attitudes that need to be modified and create the atmosphere for direct contact between the parties because it seems to me direct contact is feasible, it is desirable and probably the surest way to the peaceful coexistence I would like to see.\r\n\r\n- Thank you Dr. Tuma. I have a little logistical note in here. One of the women who was working at the literature table, her neutral colored London fur coat was picked up, if one of you happened to pick that up by mistake we'd really appreciate it if you could take it out there now, she's naturally feeling really nervous about that. Dr. Brinker is a professor of comparative literature in modern philosophy at the University of Tel Aviv. He's on a leave of absence this year at Harvard where he's a visiting scholar and has been taking some time to do some public speaking. He was very interested in politics in Israel and was involved with the founding of a political party named Moked which is now a part of Sheli which has representatives in the Knesset. Dr. Brinker.\r\n\r\n- As I expressed my views in a very detailed way on a television interview today and as I agree to most of the things Professor Tuma said, I would limit myself to several additional notes, that has to do with the point why an Israeli, why Israeli Jew, a Zionist Israeli Jew would prefer the solution of two states in Mandatory Palestine or in biblical Israel to any other solution and I'll be very brief, as brief as possible and will prefer to answer questions later. In the abstract, we can raise the question, why do national states, the idea of nationalism is very far now from most parts of the Western world, West Europe, United States of America, why not recommending binational state, a state that will be neither Palestine nor Israel. As Begin and Arafat are both recommending it and my answer is that the peoples in Mandatory Palestine, both the Palestinians and the Jews are regarding their states, the Jews, the state they are having, the Palestinians, the state they are desiring to have as embodiment of national aspirations. And in this case, when the two nationalities involved are regarding a state as an embodiment of national aspirations and no national state, a binational state is not doing justice to the aspirations of the two nations. And therefore, since both Begin and Arafat knows it very well therefore I assume that when Begin is recommending annexation as he did not so many years ago, annexation of the West Bank to Israel and he promises individual rights to the Palestinians living there, I assume by this larger Israel he means a state where Jews will always have the dominating role and when Arafat is speaking about a secular state, by this he means land where Arabs will always have the dominating role. And I don't believe that even in terms of individual rights, equality will ever be guaranteed for Jews living in Arafat state, of Arabs living in the large Begin state, therefore I recommend, despite all the reservations we may have about the idea of a national state and I admit that we may have serious reservations about it especially when we see America or West European democracy. I recommend in this case, the solution of two national states, the State of Israel, which already exists and a Palestinian State. Now this natural solution is rejected by the majority of Israelis. There was at one point, two or three weeks after Sadat dramatic visit to Jerusalem when there was tremendous amount of flexibility in public opinion in Israel and many Israelis changed their views under the impact of saying that they were sure to be impossible turning before their eyes, to be a possibility, a visit of an Arab president to the Knesset. There was a point at which in answer to questions put at a poll, 30% of Israeli Jews answered, the day I will support the idea of self-determination for the Palestinians including the right to have their own separate state, if it is shown to them, if it is clear to them that this doesn't endanger the existence, the security, the sovereignty, the integrity of Israel. Usually the number of people supporting this idea among Jews is lower than 30, perhaps 15% or something like that. The fears Israeli have of a Palestinian State. Sometimes people really do have have them sincerely. Sometimes those fear are just manufactured or exploited by political demagogues. The fears are mainly of a strategic nature in the bold sense of the word, that is everybody in Israel may know that since Israel stood several wars with the whole Arab world surrounding Israel, Israel may stand a war with a small Palestinian State that cannot add much to the amounts of weapons and manpower that was maneuvered against Israel at '67, '73 and '48 and yet they have this fear for the security of Israel, which may be called fear for security but only when you interpret the word security and give it a much broader sense than the never will and the find and the exact sense, precise sense that has to do with armies, their superiorities, weapon and so on. And this fear has to do because they consider this state to be militant, to cause day to day troubles, to affiliate perhaps with the Soviet block and in that way to be in a constant position to attract the old Arab world to wage another total war against Israel. Now this fears, nobody has the right to come down too easily. It is Israel after all that accepted the partition plan at '47 and was attacked. It is the Palestinians that didn't accept the '47 partition plan and the position of the Palestinian organizations today is still quite ambiguous on this point. Personally, I believe that most of the Palestinians know that Israel cannot easily be destroyed, that going on with another war, two wars, three wars, four wars with this magic cycle of wars returning every seven years, every eight years might in the long run bring to the destruction of Israel, might, but in the process it may bring also the destruction of the Palestinian people. I sincerely believe that the majority of Palestinians see this thing quite clearly. I believe that many Palestinians, not only because of this but because of general moral humanistic principles would like to accept Israel existence as a fact but there is general feeling in Israel and this feeling is shared also by people like me that are accepting on principle, the principle of self-determination including the idea of a Palestinian State in the very near future, couple of years. There is still a general feeling that some clear signs to this moderated attitude must be shown on the part of the Palestinians but I agree completely that the only way to see it is as Dr. Tuma was suggesting to put the Palestinians on the spot. He was suggesting to put the Israelis on the spot, that is that Israel will cancel these nevers, that Israel will declare that it will be willing to negotiate with any Palestinian representative not excluding the PLO, that will recognize Israel existence and that will be able to accept after negotiations, the result of negotiations and guarantee the sovereignty, integrity of the State of Israel. That is the only way out and the initiative must come out of Israel. I believe that when Israel takes this initiative that was accidentally twice suggested by two ministers in Israeli cabinets, by minister of health Victor Shem-Tov and by minister of transport and public information, Aharon Yariv, that if Israel declare this, I think the Palestinians and the PLO will have to make themselves more unambiguous, very vocal on what they see as a solution and the atmosphere for starting serious negotiations will be created. For dividing biblical Israel or Mandatory Palestine into two national states, I have also reasons that are special reasons for Jews and for Israelis. In 25 years, in the whole area which Israel is now occupying it means Israel, it's June borders with the occupied territories, in this whole area in 25 or 30 years, the Arabs will be the majority. The only way for Israelis to go on holding this larger Israel will be the way the South Africans or the Rhodesians are holding the blacks of those countries. No Zionist I believe can be unworried by this perspective since Zionism as me and many Israelis understand it is based on the argument that the suffering and the persecuted people is entitled to his homeland and Zionism is based on the argument for the equality, not only for individuals but the equality for groups, for nations. Therefore nobody can accept easily, such a frightening prospect in which you will have to choose and which every Jew in Israel will have to choose one of the two bad alternatives, either a state will stop being the embodiment of Jewish national aspirations, it will stop being a Jewish state or it will have to be an oppressive, discriminatory ultimately perhaps fascist state. And the only way out of this is to guarantee the national character, the Zionist character of the State of Israel with the guaranteeing of a national character of a Palestinian State living alongside Israel in peaceful coexistence. This is an additional important factor that helps to persuade many Israelis to be ready for changes in their attitude to the conflict. Now I believe this change is urgent. This change both in the Israeli camp and in the Palestinian camp is urgent. There must be mutual reciprocal recognition of rights and it must be done in the very near future. Very near future I mean, in terms of couple of years, not a couple of weeks or of months. Why? Because the peace treaty which is between Egypt and Israel, which is a tremendous event of historical significance, that this peace treaty can be guaranteed only when some other steps are taken. I don't know how long Egypt will be able to stand complete solitude in the Arab world. I do know that if the self rule in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip is emptied from all content, Egypt will be driven back to the idea of waging war or joining a war waged against Israel. In a year, Egypt and Israel under the peace treaty day, they are going to sign next Monday have to decide upon the character, the nature of autonomy and to decide together the date for elections for these authorities. I assume that in this year Israel will do all that it can to find Palestinian, insignificant Palestinians, non-representative Palestinians that will cooperate with Israel in putting the candidature for the elections. Once it realizes and I think Israel will realize, the Government of Israel will realize that it doesn't find real representative personalities, Israel will be faced with the problem to give up the whole idea of self rule and autonomy or to look and find some ties, some connection with the PLO in order that the PLO will not boycott the elections in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and real representative personalities will be elected in these elections and the self rule will be given any content. Now, I don't agree with Dr. Tuma that autonomy or self rule plan program is as deficient as he sees it, especially when I think about it as a provision, as a provisional solution leading to self-determination. Part of its emptiness is quite good because by being a formula that everybody is going to give it another meaning, there is an area for fruitful discussion, for negotiations between Egypt and Israel and I would like to see Palestinians argue with Israel together with Egyptians about the content of this self rule, about the content of autonomy, trying to make it more and more similar to an independent state, when Israel will try to make it more and more similar to cultural educational autonomy. More similar to a big municipality that runs the territory. And out of this debate we shall see perhaps, hopefully, political life, free independent political life in the West Bank. Dr. Tuma spoke about oppression. I don't think all kinds of. Even when terrorists were hidden there but I don't think all kinds of oppressions can be stopped in a conquered territory but one oppression I would like to see stopped immediately and that is the prohibition, the forbidding of any free political life, political gatherings, political expression in the occupied territories. I would like to see the debates, gatherings, assemblies, free expression, not only in the press as they have it now but also in meetings and I would like to see Palestinians, first debating the nature of autonomy with Israel not only Egyptians but Palestinians and secondly electing their representative and going on with their struggle for complete self-determination. I would like to see the moderation in the positions of both Israel and the PLO taking place before two or three years, taking place together with the establishment of the autonomy, maybe from Israel it will mean changing the government, maybe for the PLO it will mean breaking its unity, not being the same kind of coalition they are now. That is those people who would not negotiate with any Israel under any conditions will have to leave it. Even if it means this, I would like to see this happen so that we shall be able to go on with the process of peace and to guarantee the part of the comprehensive peace we already have. The rest of the questions.\r\n\r\n- Before the questions start I want to announce that there's some coffee in the back of the room and you can feel free to get up and get a cup if you'd like.\r\n\r\n- Yes\r\n\r\n- I would like to, This is a question to both Do you agree with what then Begin are going to sign on Monday?\r\n\r\n- The question is, do both of the speakers agree with the Accords that are going to be signed on Monday by Begin and Sadat?\r\n\r\n- I wish I knew what they are signing. See, that's the problem. And since we do not know the details, it's my personality, I always try to give the benefit of the doubt and this case I would say, I agree they should sign but not stop there.\r\n\r\n- I think the same. The arrangements arrived at, we must take them as a package. So withdrawal to the El Arish - Ras Muhamed border in nine months, I think it's fine. Having the oil fields returned to Egypt three months before this withdrawal, I think it's fine. Having a Egyptian ambassador but let us not concentrate on the details. The fact that they are signing this is so important than even if other arrangements, even if I can object to this side or to the other side, the fact is of such significance that I'm not only agreeing to it but I'm very, very happy about it.\r\n\r\n- Don't you think it may cause more in the area?\r\n\r\n- Can I answer? It has the chance of causing more radicalism in the Arab countries and feel of ease in Israel that will prevent the next important steps that must be taken. Yeah, it can make the Palestinian so bitter, disappointed with Sadat. They cannot be disappointed with Begin because he never promised them anything better. I don't think they would believe that he will return all the Sinai Peninsula. They can be somehow encouraged by several facts. Dr. Tuma spoke about three nevers. 16 months ago Begin said, \"No Israeli government \"will ever dismantle a Jewish settlement.\" It was also a never and now Israel is going to dismantle 13 Jewish settlements in the Sinai area because the treaty demands it. So they can be satisfied for example with this because they can see that Israel, the never of Israel is not always counting more than the never of Egypt. When Egypt signed their Khartoum Conference agreement never to negotiate with Israel, never to recognize Israel. There were also three nevers there. So I think that the new dynamics where an inflexible personality like Menachem Begin, with some fanatic elements in his education, personality and views. If he's able to change his never and dismantle 13 Jewish settlements once he recognizes that they are obstacle to peace, maybe other nevers can be changed in Israel. So I really think there are rational grounds to expect both Israeli and Palestinians to be more rational and to be more prepared for moderation in order to carry the next steps of the peace process but I also realize that it will also cause radicalization of Palestinians feeling deserted by Sadat and it will cause certain ease to many Israelis that will think since now we don't have to face the danger of a total war, let's stay as we are with doing nothing. Now, there are two important illusions here. One of the Palestinians and one of the Israelis that must be ruled out in order, they will take the moderate, the necessary moderation. The illusion of the Israelis that by having the peace treaty, they took Egypt out of the conflict forever. Let us say to the Israelis, Egypt might come back to war if nothing else is done and the illusion of the Palestinians that this peace treaty is still somehow hypothetical phenomenon. That it can be broken anytime. Egypt can consider it all again, Sadat or other president and we can start all again as if this didn't happen. It happened. It will be difficult to find other framework, except the framework defined by this peace treaty for solving other problems and yet the other steps must be taken.\r\n\r\n- You might have heard, I think two days ago towards I think on NBC quoting what is called a high, a senior PLO officer who would not be named, who made the statement to the effect that we are going to take a wait and see position on the treaty, because if it can be shown to them that the autonomy plan will lead to self-determination, they will not be opposed to it. I wanted to know the name of the person but the name was not there but it was on the national news.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Dr. Brinker, It is my understanding that Begin's concept of self-determination to the Palestinians that he intends to allow continued settlement, Jewish settlements on the West Bank and that when Israeli's withdraw, they will withdraw to enclaves so that the military presence will be there to protect the Jewish villages. My question is, is that consistent with self-determination for the Palestinians?\r\n\r\n- Did everyone hear the question? In the back have you heard the question?\r\n\r\n- Well, Begin never uses this expression of self-determination. If he used it, it will be a big step forward. He uses only the expression of self rule. He never uses this expression of self-determination and he doesn't want that the self rule will lead to self-determination. Now, the effect that Begin insist that after the nature of the autonomy will be decided, Jewish settlements will go on there, I think this is mainly for internal consumption, to make it easy for him with his own party. I don't think the Israeli government at the present moment have serious programs of putting new settlements into the West Bank. And I really feel that the role of the settlements had been exaggerated even by my own party. Every two months we had a demonstration against settlements, we called it obstacle to peace and my party, the Moked Party and then the Sheli, this was one of our main slogans. Even I feel that even we exaggerated the role of this. Of course, if there's going on to be more and more settlements in the West Bank, it will show that Israel means by self rule something ridiculous, something very empty of content.\r\n\r\n- Military enclaves will be left there, it's my understanding, in order to protect these, the villages that are already there.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, this is one of the argument. The other argument is that so that there will be peace there altogether, that people won't fight with each other. Now, I think that the settlements that Egypt and Israel agreed about status-quo, that is what they agreed really in Camp David. Though, everybody's using rhetorics. The Egyptian rhetoric to the fact that the settlements will be dismantled which wasn't accepted by Begin and Begin rhetoric to the point that he is going to add more and more settlements, which the Egyptians objected. I think they agreed on stalemate on settlements. So for the time being the settlements are there. Now there were Palestinians that said if we have self-determination we don't mind if the settlements remain there once they recognize the sovereignty of Palestinian State, for example the mayor of said so. The whole number of the whole Israelis in all the settlements in the Golan Heights in the Gaza Strip and in the West Bank is 4,300. So I don't feel this is an important factor. At '48 as the results of the war Israel had to evacuate many settlements that had many more people there near Jerusalem, near the Dead Sea, in the Western Galilee and other places. So I really don't feel they have symbolical value to both parties. I think this is not what is going to decide the future. What is going to decide the future is the content of the autonomy and the move from self rule to self-determination. The peaceful transition from self rule to self-determination for the Palestinians.\r\n\r\n- As long as the Israeli enclaves are kept there\r\n\r\n- Excuse me, I'd like to have someone else have a chance to ask a question if you don't mind. Perhaps afterwards you could continue your conversation. Yes,\r\n\r\n- I heard tonight that before the Israeli Knesset voted on the agreement with Egypt, Begin had promised to establish 10 more settlements in the occupied West Bank. My question is to Dr. Brinker again, if as he said, there is a sign of goodwill from the Israeli point of view then why do they keep promising the extreme groups in Israel establishing more and more settlements. And I think everybody looks at the establishment of these settlements as a major hindrance to these peace negotiations whether with Sadat or whether with the self rule Palestinian people.\r\n\r\n- Has everyone heard the question?\r\n\r\n- Well, as I told you, I don't think it is a major hindrance but I think it is bad omen. I don't think it's major hindrance. I don't see where Begin is going to take people for 10 new settlements in the West Bank. Most Israelis are now reluctant to the idea of having new settlements in the West Bank. Public opinion in Israel about this special issue changed considerably from Sadat visit up to now. Usually you had slight majority of Jews believing that it is important to have settlements in the West Bank, slight majority, 55% and so. Now you have a very clear minority of 30% that believe it is still necessary or desirable to have new settlements in the West Bank. The majority of Israelis don't want it. On this point, Begin party is perhaps in the minority but Begin wants to appease his people in his own party. He doesn't like to see his own party dismantled and there is a danger of this. There is a danger that a certain percentage of members of his party will leave him and will make the government fall or will create the need of new elections in Israel. I don't believe, if we meet again in a year we shall be able, I think to examine whether 10 new settlements were really established in the West Bank.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- I like to address myself to the danger of overpopulation in the small country. Neither of you two gentlemen have addressed themselves of the possibility in the future that this might happen someday. Can you foresee, for instance that Israel will limit its immigration policy for any Jew once they immigrate to Israel and will the Palestinian initiate a keeping the population at the present size. How do you foresee this and can you foresee that as a danger in the future?\r\n\r\n- This is a very important question, very serious one. It applies not only to the State of Israel or the State of Palestine, it applies to the whole Middle East, as matter of fact it applies to the whole world and the problem seems to be localized in some places much more seriously than others. As far as the State of Israel, I think probably Dr. Brinker will say something about it, but so far it seems that the immigration has slowed down quite a bit. As a matter of fact, there were as probably as many people living as people coming in and the birth and the population growth rate among the Jews in Israel is rather low. In fact, it's quite low. So in this sense, I'm not sure that it would be a danger because I do not foresee that a large wave of immigration is going to take place unless there is a crisis somewhere in the world then people come for refuge. The problem probably is more serious on the Arab side in a small nation, small country, the State of Palestine that we are talking about. However, there are two things we have to concentrate on here. What is the capacity of that area? And the second, what happens to the birth rate or to the growth rate? As far as the capacity is concerned, we did some calculations on this and this is as precise as we could be precise and of course this is subject to review and re-estimation and so on but in terms of the land space, the land area for agriculture, for industry, for habitation and so on, there's enough room for more than 5 million people in the West Bank and Gaza, East Jerusalem in the 1967 borders. As far as the water potential, which is obviously a very serious problem. There is the capacity to utilize up to 5 million people if no new technologies of desalination are created. Now, if we have new revolutionized technologies where the desalination of seawater becomes commercial enough becomes economical enough to use for agriculture, now they can use it only for drinking water in some places where they need it badly but where it can be used for agriculture then the amount of, the capacity will be much larger than that. So on one hand then with respect to the capacity, there is a long way before we have to worry about the state any differently from the way we worry about other countries in the region. The second aspect is the population control itself. And on this, it's not a question of the size of the area, it's the question of the other resources that you need and the population growth rate among the Palestinians is very, very high regardless how much land they have, regardless how much, to rehabilitate and to reconstruct the economy there is no way but to limit the population growth and this is not something to be imposed on them, this is something that will evolve. Right now you will find Palestinians who have already done this population control on their own because they have other objectives for their children, for themselves, for their retirement days, for the future, for the quality of life, whatever. So this is something which will come presumably with education, with development and with security. I don't mean security, military security. I mean the security of life itself, that you are able to concentrate on other objectives and so on. This I think, I share your concern but not only with respect to the State of Palestine we are talking about, the problem right now is much more serious in Egypt and in, probably other parts of North Africa, then probably it is just for the Palestinians but I expect the modification to take place almost in a natural way, helped a little bit with planning. This is something I would have talked about had I spoke more about the economy. One of the conditions for viability is to follow a plan. The plan will have to take into consideration what the resources are, what the objectives are and how to reach those objectives. One of these will have to be population, both as a demand factor in the economy and as a supply factor. And in this case, the Government of Palestine would probably take some action in order to create a balance between its human resources and the other resources.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- I wanted I know you said you're not a spokesman for the PLO but I wonder if you could say, it is my understanding that the position of the PLO and indeed the whole Arab world to deny the existence of Israel and the right of Israel if this is indeed the case, would you say that granting self-determination to the Palestinians would change that position?\r\n\r\n- Has everyone heard the question?\r\n\r\n- Well, on the first part of it. You said the Palestinians and the whole world, the Arab world. Of course, this is not totally so because we already know that Egypt has come forth ward to want to sign an agreement which recognizes the existence of the State of Israel. We know that Morocco is agreeing with Egypt at least if not totally openly but it is implied. We know that the Sudan is with them. So here you already have three countries that are not objecting to the idea of the existence of Israel. The question of recognizing the existence of Israel or refraining from the idea of destroying the State of Israel obviously is tied to what other policies are taken. Now as I said, I cannot speak for Mr. Arafat. It is my impression and I just came back from Syria a short while ago, I mixed quite a bit with Palestinians there. I talked with Syrians and I asked many questions and I thought people were very candid in their answers to me. It is my impression that the readiness of Israel to withdraw to the 1967 borders, recognition of the right of self-determination of the Palestinians by the Palestinians will be a major step towards formalizing the acceptance of the existence of the State of Israel. Another factor which will be before or with this will be extremely important is the recognition of the rights of the Palestinians and of the PLO by the United States. This is probably as important if not more important because the Arabs and especially the Palestinians at least the people I have been in touch with regard the role of the United States in this case as critical because without that role the State of Israel would not be in that same position by any means.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- I'd like to answer that question. I believe I can tell you what Yasser Arafat.\r\n\r\n- Your are a representative of the.\r\n\r\n- I'm not a representative.\r\n\r\n- Excuse me, could you identify yourself please?\r\n\r\n- My name is from Syria . I met Yasser Arafat in Beirut in January. This question was put to him. His answer is, it is the wrong question. The question is not whether or not the Palestinians ought to recognize Israel but whether or not Israel ought to recognize Palestinian creation.\r\n\r\n- Yes\r\n\r\n- I would like to add a little bit more being an Arab Israeli. I'm from Nazareth and I lived in Israel since 1948, where I witnessed all the Israeli policy amongst the Arabs, the discrimination, the demolishing of houses. I wonder if the main problem is that, if there is a will, there is a way. Now, is there a will? And I want to talk more about the Israeli side. Why? Because the main problem is not only the people of the West Bank, it's not that these are not called the Palestinians. The majority of the Palestinians come from the part which is occupied by Israel, where their property was confiscated and that's one of the major problems. Even the Arabs who remain in Israel are having their property being confiscated all the time. I suffered from that. I witnessed because I'm an architect there. I witnessed the demolishing of houses, of Arab houses, Israeli Arabs who are Israeli citizens, who have their passport, who vote for the Knesset. Now, is there a way, before we speak about the other Palestinians why shouldn't we speak about the Arabs who are Israeli. Who Israel is always trying to show to the outside world that we are democracy by giving the Arabs all the right and the democracy, which is wrong. We are more like hostages rather than citizens. I am saying that as a man who lived in Nazareth since 1948, I witnessed all the Israeli policy. The other thing is that everybody is trying to talk about the Palestinians, that they should have the right or the disgusting things that you are like of the Palestinians. If you have the right as a Jew to have your own state, give him the right for the Palestinian to have his own state. Now to stand with the Palestinians. I have Yasser Arafat on CBS on Face the Nation. He's willing to accept any part which Israel would withdraw out of, from the occupied parts. And I know that because I read the declarations of the general assembly of the PLO two and a half years ago in Damascus where they change their style, they are not animal again, the destruction of Israel or they want one state. This has been changed because of speaking of that is the . I disagree with Dr. Tuma about that. I'm sorry for that but I disagree about his. I don't know if he's aware of all these things and now if you want to make.\r\n\r\n- Would you bring your comments to a close so that the speakers could have a chance to respond to you please.\r\n\r\n- Well, you can't have now an autonomy under occupation. When France was under German occupation, make his free government in England because they cannot have any elections on the occupation. Even if you're not under occupation. If you are Israeli, you don't have that very free democratic elections. I'm speaking about the Arabs in Israel. Well, I'm finished.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- I just want to clarify something very briefly. I did not mean that the PLO have not modified. As a matter of fact, I gave an example that there is modification. The argument, which we do have to face and we do have to answer. As a Palestinian, I have to answer for it. The argument is the charter, the covenant has not been changed formally and the PLO are aware of this. Sabri Jiryis has written about it in the journal of Palestine studies, those of you who are interested in finding what the change in attitude has been can see it in the journal of Palestine studies in English by a man who is the director of research on Israel for the PLO. And he itemizes the changes in attitudes but formally that change has not taken place and I must say if I were indeed a policymaker for Israel and I had certain reasons to use this argument, I'll definitely use it. So the argument on both sides, they have not formally changed their attitudes. About the policies within Israel, I don't think I have anything to add. I'm in full agreement. It all applies on both parts though. Maybe Dr. Brinker wants to say something about it.\r\n\r\n- Well, it is not clear. It is really not clear the number of leaders, the number of people in, for me, it is not clear and I have many friends like that met people from the PLO. For a period longer than one year they met two or three people, they met Sabri Jiryis every month, they met every month and even they didn't succeed in making clear to them what are the relations between the people in the PLO that will accept Israel and people in the PLO that don't accept it. And I think that Israel has to take the initiative and to come on with this declaration that it will negotiate with Palestinians and with Palestinians from the PLO, not to exclude them. If those Palestinians are recognizing Israel just so that we should know. I believe as my friend, indeed the majority of the people in the PLO will accept these solution or turn to the 4th of June borders. Self-determination for the Palestinians, recognizing Israel, respecting us both. I believe so, but we have no clear evidence. Now, people that are less involved in politics than me that didn't read Sabri Jiryis or Said Hammami or each one of our declarations and there are many contradictory ones and didn't and all the others, people that didn't read it and are hearing all the time other kinds of declinations, they really sincerely confused and then come the politicians that perhaps they know about it, perhaps they don't know but they're using it as a pretext, as a wonderful pretext. Do you know that the Palestinian covenant is taught at secondary schools, it is at high schools at Israel. Every student of high school opens it. 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