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today we are very honored with us for Senator Charles Grassley to take time out of his busy schedule to come to Iowa State. We should talk about the express purpose of the Space Program and space exploration in general and what his views on it, are on it and in general and in particular as dealing with NASA, commercial space programs and international programs and how they relate to the United States as well as us here in Ames and we're gonna get his views on particular programs and in general and then everybody in the audience is gonna have an opportunity to ask questions. And so feel free to participate, this is hopeful gonna be a very interactive session and without further doer I'd like to introduce Senator Charles Grassley.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much for the invitation. Thank you as well for being patient as a group and particularly your officers who since last summer were trying to get me to come to the campus to visit with you on this very subject that we're visiting about today. Also thank you for understanding the fact that I could not be here in October because of the extended session of the Congress. I canceled for some date certain that we had set in October, I appreciate that very much. Today is kind of Iowa State University day because I came from a meeting in Waterloo's sponsored by the Iowa State University Extension Service. That meeting was on the subject of agricultural problems, international trade, probably a whole six hour conference that I should have been at for the entire day. Because there were a lot of subjects there of value as a resource for me as a United States Senator. In the meantime, I came down here to visit with you and I was there as their Launch on speaker. A meeting like this is a global value if I don't listen to your concerns about space programs. Particularly since you were so good to invite me to be a resource person for you. I do have a presentation, asked to address some specific issues. I don't pretend that the value for me, of a meeting like this is what I have to say to you and then to run. Since as an organization you've asked me to come and listen to your points of view as well as to respond to your questions. I'm very happy to do that and hope that from my position as a member of the subcommittee on... I didn't relate it organizations which term related organizations includes NASA programs. I hope that I can be that resource person for you, but more importantly I think it gives you a chance for me to relate to me your feelings about the federal government involvement in the space program, about your views on the government versus private sector commercial, the commercialization issue. Most importantly I suppose to all of you is the level of funding in these programs. And so I guess from the standpoint of whatever you wanna bring up about the space programs I hope I can be responsive. If I can't be responsive in the way of responding to your questions, I hope I can at least be a good listener and take those views that you have as a society audience and membership to let me know your views. Kind of, as you understand Congress as I indicated to you I was trying to be here late in October when I thought we could adjourn. I suppose Congress is a little bit like each one of you as students cramming for finals, congress always trying to race through our budget agreement. Which budget agreement I voted against not because necessarily what Justin did or did not do to space programs. But mostly from the standpoint of how it would hurt economic growth at the same time raising taxes on Americans. And almost in the sense that raising taxes you can satisfy the appetite of Congress to spend money. It was that budget agreement that really, for all practical aspects kept me from meeting with you in October, because it went till October the 27th. This budget agreement probably being late and the fact that we did not finish until October 27th, says something about Congress that probably you don't study in your political science courses here. But it's fact that Congress never really makes a decision until you're at a crisis time, whether it deals with space programs or whether it deals with budget deadlines. I can see it coming next year we are supposed to meet on January the 3rd and we will meet on January the 3rd. But nothing very seriously will get done in the Congress of the United States until probably after the president meets with his state of the union message and probably after a traditional February recess. So you see again I can see coming up next year 1991 basic flaws Congress has in a way it does business. That basic flaw is we don't do enough during January or February and we tried to do it all, during the last few months of the year. I'm glad you don't manage your university that way or your space research programs that way or you wouldn't have the good reputation that you have in these areas. The result of this whole process is bad for the economy for the country and for individual programs that we support including the one that's on our agenda today. Our support for a forward looking space policy will be tested in the near term, not just on the subject matter itself. The good or the bad of specific programs but also it's going to be tested because we're in an era of large budget deficits and Congress taking those extraordinary measures to get those budget deficits under control. So it would be wrong for me to talk about a space program to you without talking about some of the deficit issues that face us. Because the deficit is in fact, an 800 pound gorilla of American politics. The question you can ask is how many programs does it hurt? And the answer is true of any 800 pound gorilla aspect of any issue, it hurts everyone that it wants to. In an era of constrained budgets, the issue of what programs should be pursued by government and what space activities can and should be conducted by the private sector as an alternative. All of these have become highly controversial but they're most often highly controversial not because of those of the specifics of the issues dealing with the space programs. But because of space programs as a priority or non priority within the federal budget or where does it come in the prioritization of those issues? Although space programs didn't do too badly on the appropriation front. Now for those of you that were hoping for 24% increases is present in boys hopeful, then the fact that we went with only a 13% increase probably doesn't look very well to you. But there will be 1710 billion dollars more to span in space programs in 1991 that wasn't there in 1909. The President made his requests for a 24% increase to proceed with major projects such as the Space Station and the Moon Mars Initiative. In the latter case, this latter program was zeroed out entirely in the budget. While funds for the space station were $500 million less than the president had requested. However, at this point in the debate 1991 versus 1988 the space station is an accepted fact by Congress unlike in the previous year when it was so close that my vote on the conference committee was the deciding vote for moving ahead with the project, when the chairman of the committee then Senator Proxmire now retired was leading the charge for doing a way with the space station. But the total 1991 figure will force NASA to stretch out or scale back several other programs. Still I don't think that the 13% growth is not bad and for those of you who have an agricultural background and see agricultural programs taking a 25% cut over the next five years for what they were otherwise going to cost. A 13% program ought look pretty good. Now it was just 37 years ago this January that the United States entered the space age. Today we are reassessing what programs should be pursued by the government and what space activities can and should be conducted by the private sector. The recent malfunction of the Hubble space telescope and the grounding of space shuttles have raised questions about NASA's ability to carry out its plans for the 1990s. Some in Congress field that we cannot justify spending billions of dollars in large NASA projects any time of shrinking budget resources. And when the complexities of past projects have resulted in cost overruns, delays and significant defects and failure. And let me say parenthetically at this point from the standpoint of those things I just mentioned that are glaring shortcomings of recent NASA history. That doesn't single NASA out in any respect. Those of you who have followed and I don't expect that many people follow everything that their senators do, but on the area of these very same areas of cost overruns delays and significant effects and failures in production. Those are all common problems that we have with defense programs as well. And some of those very same things that are wrong within the defense department, of the way it does business to some extent or shortcomings of the way NASA has done business. Now my perception is that it's going to be easier to change the way NASA does business than the way the defense department does business. And not that it should be easier to do one or the other and there would be more savings and benefit to the taxpayers of our country the extent to which we could accomplish those changes in the department of defense. So I'm not beating on NASA today, because very much so, those have been projects of mine with the department of defense since 1983. The shuttle and Hubble flaws have raised questions about the reliability of the space show. The effectiveness of NASA's management and quality control and the future of NASA has planned large projects. Now NASA responds that it is correct to past problems and should be judged on how it handles any future problems. Let me say also parenthetically here that again those of you who are really familiar with space the federal government involvement in space know that there's about five departments of government involved in some aspect of space programs. So again, we tend to go to the major research organization NASA to maybe find fault, but there are probably faults in the space programs of others as well. Because of the questions raised about NASA's ability to manage and achieve its goals, Vice President Quayle in a position he's been specifically assigned to by the President of the United States as chairman of the National Space Council. Quayle has asked NASA administrator, Admiral Richard Truly to put together an outside task force to consider the long-term direction, and the future of the space program. This panel will examine broad management issues and program content. The panel will examine an organizational structure, planned activities, assurance of mission success and adequacy of overall scale based on the workforce. We can get into any of these issues today indeed I look forward to your telling me your views, your private citizen, your student, those of you who are on staff here and how you respond to these and how you see them as constituents, because I think I need to know what you think about those that most deserve and merit the highest priority. Since the beginning of civilization humankind has sought to explore the frontier and increase its knowledge of the world. Humans have endeavored to explore our world from the deepest oceans to the outermost boundaries of our solar system and beyond. We're all amazed at the recent new images of Venus sent to us via Magellan. Discoveries that will tell us more about both Venus and her sister planet, our planet Earth. Today they're unprecedented opportunities to expand the frontier of knowledge and to expand human presence and activity. The budget places limit on these most exciting frontiers, so we must learn to deal with these budgetary lemons. At the same time, we know that the exploration of space has benefits for the United States that go far beyond, things that are easily quantifiable. There are specific payoffs in the form of new materials, technological discovery and micro gravity research. The eventual commercialization of space if successful, will stimulate economic growth and improve life on earth. And I suppose again let me digress just a minute, I suppose to some extent it's very clear to some in Congress and the federal government in a private sector that without a doubt, there's no problems with commercialization in space. On the other hand it's a fact of life in some respects with land stat there's been some problems that have come up, come about as a result of commercialization. So I think we still have to have some question Mark there but I hope it's a question Mark that airs on side of learning to rely and hope for success on privatization. As well as maintaining success within the public sector involvement in space programs. There has been a decided portion a part of the house of representatives, very much on the side of privatization. Because the house committee has put in its committee reports an overwhelming emphasis that it should move in that direction. But no price can be put on lifting the spirit this is the non quantifiable aspects of this and what it does for us as a society, what it does to encourage us to move forward in the future. No price can be put on lifting the spirit of people everywhere like that which occurred at the time of the Apollo landings on the moon or the pride that we as Iowans feel about Lauren Schreiber or Peyton who commanded that the discovery mission or the other IRA astronauts, Pinky Nelson of Charles City, David Hilmers of the Whip, Ronnie Cunningham oF Creston. No value can be calculated for the wonder in generated by pictures of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and in August of 89 of Neptune sent back over a million miles by Voyager. And no quantitative measure of any kind can capture the benefit of expanding human horizons, human greens and the human domain. The key to developing space successfully will be stable and sustainable funding for a balanced federal program of science applications and man space activities. Of course, coupled with encouragement by the government of the development of the private sector of the commercial potential of space. While we can't overlook the setbacks the U.S. Space Program has made major advances in unmanned planetary exploration U.S. spacecraft has made essentially a grand tour on the major planets, of our solar system and if had landed on man vehicles on Mars to explore its surface. In astronomy U.S. orbiting observatories have given us a window on the stars and into the creation of the universe. In just 30 relatively short years, the progress of man space flight has been amazing. The time from his first suborbital flight by Alan Shepard the first steps by humans on another heavenly body the moon was less than a decade. This was followed by the developments of the world's only man reusable space vehicle the space shuttle. The benefits of space for the U.S. economy and society are numerous and substantial. For example the satellite communications industry is a direct result of the development of States telecommunication technology. Live via satellite would not be possible today without the early federal investment in space. As evidence by our wide variety of other advances from new lightweight materials for aerospace and other applications, to life saving breathing equipment used by firemen. To long life micro miniaturized electronics used in medical equipment such as pacemakers. The space program continues to create new business opportunities and to contribute to our economy at the same time making life better for people that would not have so good of a life. Most recently, the shuttle Alana's was launched on a final secret military mission to monitor person golf events and support of our troops there. Frankly much of the future of our space policy will be resolved once we as a nation decide on the issues of space leadership. In other words, is it still important for the U.S. to be preeminent in space, during the space age for 30 years? The answer has always been an emphatic yes, but space has long since ceased to be a concern of only the United States and the Soviet Union. The European space agency, plus Japan, China, India and Israel also have their own capabilities to launch satellites today and the European Space Agency and Japanese programs are especially vigorous and highly competitive to both those of the Soviet Union and the United States. Thus maintaining leadership no longer is a contest between the United States and the Soviet Union, but with other countries as well. For example, the European Space Agency clearly wants autonomy in space sometime in the future and plans to build a reusable spacecraft for carrying people into orbit. It is a real possibility that by the late 1990s Europe will no longer be relying upon other countries to take people into orbit. The question now is whether it is still important for the U.S. to lead in space overall and whether or not it must lead in all areas future decisions on U.S based policy and programs could be significantly affected by these answers. In space policy address last year President Bush stated that it is America's destiny to lead in space and his goals. Space station freedom and eventual basis on the moon, and Mars would establish the United States as a preeminent space faring nation. Those goals are because of the deficit in real jeopardy and it may even be a agreement even in this room even within the Iowa State Society, your organization of whether or not those being in jeopardy are serious or whether Congress made a serious error by not totally agreeing with President Bush. Those debates that you might have along that line are probably no different than the debates we have within the Congress of the United States. Whether we fulfill the vision of President Bush or whether other more immediate needs distract us is what the coming space debate is all about. We need to call up on America's best minds to help us at both at Iowa State and elsewhere. If we're to meet our goals with the resources available. I feel good knowing that there were so many islands interested are knowledgeable about space issues. People who are ready to engage in this debate. I look forward to hearing your ideas on the space program particularly future decisions to be made. I welcome your input whether it's orally now or whether you write to me and remember if you write to me, expect an answer don't only expect an answer for me expect an answer from any of your elected representatives at the state local and federal level because representative government is a two way street. You communicate to us, we also have to communicate to you. Today that's easy because we're together as it was for me at noon with Iowa State University people in Waterloo or it's going to be at five o'clock this afternoon when I go to a meeting that I have in De Moines to speak to a meeting from a firm. So I want you to be a part of that debate, you can be a part of that debate I welcome and I'm sure every Congressman and Senator, Republican or Democrat from Iowa welcomes your opinion on it. So I thank you for inviting me today but more importantly I thank you for being patient about six weeks till I could be here. Now, your first question or just your comments, I would really like to hear what people who have views on our space program feel about some of these issues. And don't be limited please, just to the issues about space that I discussed. So there's a lot of issues dealing with space that I haven't discussed that you might wanna ask about or you might wanna put your opinion out about.\r\n\r\n- We know our space industry is largely concentrated on the West coast, what can we do to get aerospace industry here in Midwest and specifically here in Iowa?\r\n\r\n- First of all there's a major problem within NASA that has, I shouldn't say just NASA maybe it's almost any federal bureaucracy and I'm coming at this a long way. I suppose there's easier ways for me to answer your question like saying, there's the high educational levels of islands, so the work habits, the work ethic of islands, the fact that space building rental costs in California are so gigantic and when longterm contracts run out companies that are doing that work are gonna move to places where buildings space is cheaper. But I think there's another major problem we have to deal with if we're really going to be successful in this area. And it's at the federal level, a problem with NASA now I'm getting back to where I started. They have tended to put grant money, where grant money has gone before, that's an example. So there's a bias against universities that haven't done a lot of space work and had a lot of federal space grants in the past and we're trying to break that monopoly of a few major universities both East and West. There might even be some Midwest but I think of them in my mind concentrating in California, in new England and maybe a few places in Texas, but it doesn't matter generally not missing the Midwest. So there's a certain point system, you make an application as a university. There's a certain point system that will give you extra points because you've already done some work in that area. So there's a bias against those universities that haven't done that, we need to break that bias to a considerable extent and we are just now beginning to try to crack that in Washington. And we're just to some extent, getting some universities in the Midwest, having a greater concern about fighting hard for some of those federal dollars. And then in a sense communicating that view to congressmen and senators they are probably activate congressmen and senators previously not activated or concerned maybe not even realizing the problem or how it works. So it's a circle that you go through, but we were able to one year ago and this was written up in the Iowa State daily about the consortia of University of Iowa state getting some money that wasn't previously allocated and quite frankly the arguments that I use when I talked to Admiral Truly about these things are this. That you know when you consider and I'm not talking just about Iowa although Iowa is preeminent in this area but when you talk about Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota just to let's expand that the three States. How well we do as high school graduates on test scores? And maybe these aren't as good as they ought to be nationally but they're still preeminent for the United States because we ranked one, two or three on most of these. And Iowa's usually one in a lot of them, that when you write off universities like Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin to some extent where all the brains are going to in the first place because we tend to educate a large number of islands at Iowa universities and I'm sure it's true in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Just think of the potential for research expertise and for opportunities to get the best people teaching you're missing because you give scores, extra points to universities that maybe also have good student bodies. But it seemed to me like you're limiting the pool that you're gonna make use of in future decades, okay next.\r\n\r\n- I was wondering, it's sort of a two part question why in this last budget battle was it so hard for Congress to get up the gumption to spend a little over $200 million for the space exploration initiative which was going to be technology development for Mars endeavors and what will it take Congress to start funding this program?\r\n\r\n- A change of attitude on the part of the house of Representatives and I don't say that just cause I'm a Senator that's a fact of life. They zeroed out the program, so anything that's available is a result compromise between the House and Senate and more support in that Senate than in the House. So I suppose what you ask is not an easy answer because it involves key people being key places and making decisions and all. How the attitude of Senator Garn who was the only Senator to have been on a shuttle mission. How hard he's willing to fight because he's one of the few people really know and understand it and devote his life to it and sometimes as one individual fighting the course you might wear out. Now that doesn't mean he doesn't have a lot of help but I'll tell you it's a very complicated area. So you rely considerably on people like that. That's maybe one reason why anything was preserved at all and how you are effectively able to challenge the House of Representatives. It's also has good people and they feel strongly about their views but I guess the only answer I can give to you is keep up your requests flowing to Congress so that they know that the issue hasn't died out the grassroots and just have to hope for the best. And, but I mean, you're talking about trying to persuade Congress through the representative process that you do.\r\n\r\n- Do you think it's time to start large scale operational state of Soviet Union as the space is protected by them?\r\n\r\n- Maybe I can't answer that yes or no, but I guess I could answer positively. That I see a tremendous advantage to both economies when they're going through worse budget situations than we are and we're starting out with a stronger economy than they are, they have to divert more from military to economics than we do because their spending a higher percentage of their GMP on military. You might say that also gives them more potential for improving their private sector. But I think that it's to our advantage to start looking in that direction and almost every day opportunities improve and receptivity is improved even by the hardest core people within the Congress. You're really talking about maybe the real answer to your question is the extent to which can do, we continue to build trust as we have over the last two years, maybe four years we started but the last two years really trust being built and then a year ago now when the East block breaks up, you see real changes being made. And so you just galloped further trust but it's the extent to which we continue to build trust now. Sadly, that building of trust is probably related and this could be considered a weakness as long as he's in power. It's a strength to Gorbachev staying in office, just think of the talk you hear every day about possibilities of famines and food riots in the Soviet Union this fall. If that encourages the ascendancy, the KGB and the military again and you have another cold warrior like we had seven or eight before Gorbachev or since 1917 then we're in trouble. I might answer the question differently at that point, but I have to say now that I'm very encouraged to be looking in that direction and do not find a mental block to doing that. But ask me that four or five years ago I probably would've said no. I think you were, you had your hand up simultaneous.\r\n\r\n- Instead of each station was very complex machine and it's important slash bag double slash like the machine you've taken off for extensive maintenance but also consider that many of our future projects like space stations they include the required shovel points, a lot of shovel points. Do you support construction of a business facial border after the endeavors?\r\n\r\n- I suppose what you're asking in order to make it the space station entirely efficient as long as you've got all that money invested in a space station that you'll be able to go to and from it as often to fully utilize it that's the basis for your question. I think that I would say today no, but I wouldn't say that forever because I do support the space station. You understand that? You've heard me say in my remarks where two or three years ago my vote was the deciding vote in this effort when Senator Proxmire was trying to cut it out we had a nine to seven vote that kept it intact. So down the road once that investment's made we're going to look at every way to make maximum use of it and it's not like we were buying into a big question mark, it's a question now or tomorrow. And I guess I have to say realistically today knowing the difficulty of maintaining what budget we did 13% increases and knowing that we're kind of locked into some limits, even though I spoke about $245 billion dollar more that can be spent on domestic programs over the next five years. We're still locked into a five year decision that Congress has made. Now within that five year decision there are some changes that can be made from year to year but under the procedure, if I offered an amendment that accomplished what you want to accomplish and it was X number of hundreds of billions or millions or probably billion, a few billion dollars. I would have to say where the money's coming from so that means you take it away from some other program you increase taxes or you see prior to Gramm-Rudman that was never possible. If I want to stand up and offer an amendment to accomplish what you want to do and I get 51 votes that's all there is to it. That's one reason why you don't have a lot of responsibility or didn't previously have a lot of responsibility in the scheduling of money because it was almost environment that anything you wanted you could have as long as you got the votes for him. Now, where are you going to get the money is part of the equation for the first time. So it brings another whole focus into the debate. Where do you get the money? So you're hurting some other course as you take money away or some segment of the economy is hurt as you try to raise taxes. So I probably didn't satisfy you very much but the answer is yes, but not now probably is the best way I can answer your question. I'll get you and then you go ahead.\r\n\r\n- With that budget juggling that you talked about we can take away from one program to help Mars for instance. You mentioned that is linked to that Mars, is linked with other domestic programs. How are you prepared for this?\r\n\r\n- I'll tell you it isn't only, that's just within our subcommittee. I mentioned the name of the subcommittee HUD in an independent and other independent agencies. It's kind of or how do you divide up the work among 14 sub committees of the appropriations committee? This HUD and independent agency subcommittee is one of 14 committees, subcommittees that determine all of the discretionary funding within the federal budget which discretionary funding by the way is only about probably 25% of the entire federal budget. But how do you divide that up? And so you try to divide up the workload, I suppose a few years ago maybe a decade and a half ago somebody decided this is how it ought to be divided up. I can say this and maybe this is what you're getting at if you've really studied it you're probably understand that some of what we call the 302B allocation which under the budget law decides, X number of dollars for the department or for the defense subcommittee and X number dollars for the agriculture subcommittee X number of dollars for HUD independent related committees and you go along that till you cover all of the projects, all 14 committees, see it tends for this reason to hurt our subcommittee more than some because if you're under a mandate to cut across the bar, within our subcommittee, particularly in the HUD we have a lot of what are called mandated programs. That just cannot be cut because of the demand out there is automatic in a sense that the money is gonna be spent. So let's suppose you have a 5% across the board cut but 50% of your programs are mandatory programs. That means the programs that are discretionary are gonna take 10% cuts and that has really, to that aspect hurt space programs. Now that's within our subcommittee. So in a sense if somebody could devise another scheme that would put space programs in some subcommittee where they didn't have such a high percentage of mandated programs I guess I'd have to say space programs would probably be better off, but that isn't going to happen and why it isn't going to happen is simply this is because every subcommittee chairman in the last four years they've been Democrats with the six years before that they were Republicans. It doesn't matter whether you're Republican or Democrat. You got a certain authority within your subcommittee, you'll fight like heck to maintain it because there's a lot of power that goes with it. So it just doesn't seem to be realistic that you're gonna get that allocation change. And somebody else would probably doesn't want space programs because they may feel it hurts their mandated program. While you've got some people in the subcommittee that really understands the programs and are supportive of the program. So that's the offset, you got to Jake Garn there to look out for you. Your names and then I'll get you to sir.\r\n\r\n- You can a comment on related area.\r\n\r\n- Go ahead.\r\n\r\n- Thanks. What I'm really concerned about the prospect of war in the Middle East. And I don't know if it's last year you remember Congress you'll do whatever can to prevail on the administration by all means to prevent that. I for one not trusting our reasons for being there it's not among the agencies of being well I think it also has to do with us avoiding the airstrike of Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union by continuing our military dominance and our presence in many parts of the world. And this sort of place for us to continue this kind of economy and resist the important changes. I would simply ask you to work with all your might to help us to make those kinds of changes to prevent the unavoidable war.\r\n\r\n- I'll just give one very short response. I think it's legitimate what you say. So I don't detract from the debate on the early issue of space for my reason for being here and I don't wanna infringe upon my host, but if to the extent to which we ought to try every diplomatic, political and economic means and use some military always ought to be a last resort. I agree with you, and then further, I think that I'm gonna be looking for is the extent to which, in which the embargo we know that that isn't accomplishing anything and not only isn't accomplishing anything if that might be questionable, that there's still imminent danger to national security or the life to world society, generally as we resolve it. In other words the extent which containment might be a legitimate policy I guess I see we've had two months of containment in the Persian Gulf area compared to 45 years of containment with the Soviet Union. Since world war two, it seemed to me like it would dictate being a little patient to see if the embargo works. So I'll let it go there.\r\n\r\n- I just wanted can you give an examples of the mandated programs you were describing\r\n\r\n- I probably ought to give you a dozen but let me give you one. Because I'm not sure I can give you a dozen off the top of my head, but there would be a housing program called a housing program section eight. Where we enter into 40 year contracts with builders to use their own private money to build housing for 40 years with the idea that we will use it for poor people, so you got honor those contracts.\r\n\r\n- As far as funding from NASA but it's locked with the TA and it's very difficult to find one body for them NASA program as well as the other programs. How was that psychologically as far as innovative ways to raise money either the public sector, the private sector the commercial sector to fund money into space programs in NASA in attendance of the space?\r\n\r\n- I think I understand your question if I don't stop me if your question is philosophically am I encouraged Would I encourage partnerships between private and government on space programs? 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suggestion about putting up a space program and making a dollar and that'd be a way to involve the general public more directly in the space program, as well as other ways to finance NASA.\r\n\r\n- Well, I have supported things like that for other social or political or economic goals, both at the state and federal level. So philosophically I'm not opposed to it but I'll tell you, the amount of money that you'd raise, I think would Would be a spit in the ocean compared to what the problem is. I don't know whether it'd really be worse but I think if I were successful in getting that passed, you know, I could come home and maybe get cheered by you. But the final outcome, I don't think it'd be very productive.\r\n\r\n- Well what if we designed something like an infant tax bill for space enterprise, in some way or shape? We have new companies in space enterprise, tax breaks, that would foster development, commercial development, somebody raised their hand.\r\n\r\n- Philosophically, I do not oppose that. I have been supportive of tax incentives in other areas, that one's never come before us, and which I've supported. And some of them, as recently as this, this major budget bill that I've voted against, and the tax exemption of, of bonds issued by the state of Iowa and other states that want to put it into their beginning farmer program, as an example, that's only a six million dollar program but we still use that principle as a tax incentive to accomplish a certain social good. And so I don't find fault with it. The only thing is, you want to remember that as a practical matter, the value of a tax incentive is is less significant to the extent to which you have lower marginal tax rates. So when I went to the senate in 1970, or 1980, we had 70% marginal tax rates. They were reduced to 50 and then they were reduced to 28%. And then just recently for some incomes raised to 31, well no, the marginal tax rate now is 31, I guess, but when you, the lower your marginal tax rates, the less value those have and the less significance they have as a practical matter, see. So, you know, I favor lower marginal tax rates because that gives the federal, that gives the private sector more of an opportunity for the allocation of resources in our society than politicians making those determinations. Who else had their hand up? Go ahead, please.\r\n\r\n- Considering the age and the lifespan of the United States weather satellite system, do you see more money coming into the system next year? Considering the floods down in Missouri, with this being a farming state?\r\n\r\n- Don't sit down, Please ask, please state it again. Just the same way you did.\r\n\r\n- Considering the age and the lifespan of the United States weather satellite system and the floods in Missouri, and this being a farmer state, do you see more money going next year to upgrade the system?\r\n\r\n- I see more money going to upgrade the system but I don't know whether it's going to be that soon. Long-term, that's a worthy goal. And I think it is a policy of those administering agencies to pursue that through the, the budget, yes, sir?\r\n\r\n- Do you support multi year budgets for NASA, and it's mostly for , programs are, programs like we're going to Mars this year?\r\n\r\n- Yes, I do. But the, it won't happen as long as, I forget which congressman it is, but whose ever head, of the subcommittee, is very much opposed to it, or who in fact, maybe I shouldn't blame the congressman. Or maybe it's Senator Hollings on our side. Yeah, I think it is Senator Hollings on our side, as long as he's there, it's not going to happen, you know? And in fact, let me suggest to you that I, I have co-sponsored, they haven't really been my initiative, but I think they're real good ideas. So I co-sponsored them, two year budgeting for all of the government. That wouldn't necessarily mean two year appropriation, but two year budgeting. So on the broad outline, agencies that are administering programs that have more of a long-term commitment from the congress. Okay, next, can I look at my watch here a minute? Oh, I still have some time. Go ahead, okay, yes.\r\n\r\n- With the recent Hubble trouble recorded, NASA and subcontractor both blame the blond hair, NASA becomes a project leader's failure to communicate with the subcontractor. In your opinion, does NASA have an ineffective management team and if they do what needs to be done to correct this?\r\n\r\n- Well, they could be. And I, but I don't think I'm going to charge that. I think that there's a problem that runs deeper and it isn't just within NASA, it'd be an a broad, basic government. I'm most familiar with it in the defense department but I think it would be typical of any department. There's tremendous peer pressure within the government agencies. And I only say it's worse in the defense department than other agencies, to go along to get along. In other words, you don't blow the whistle. We have whistleblower protection legislation. We've even enhanced it here within the last two years. And I've been a major endeavor of mine but it doesn't matter how good of protection legislation you're going to have, down there at, at levels where things get done in these agencies, they don't really believe, that they're going to be protected. And they probably got reason to believe that they won't be protected because resources don't allow everybody to get the attention. You know, not everybody, not every whistleblower can be a 20 year hero like Earnest Fitzgerald is, from the defense department. And so, you know, you just don't expose the agency because you're going to be punished for it. Now it's a sad commentary, isn't it? In government, that you get a badge of dishonor, if you try to save the taxpayers money or expose waste, fraud, mismanagement, bad, bad manufacturing, bad production, and even worse in the instances in space programs when it puts in jeopardy people's lives, like the o-rings of the Columbia. And, but that's the situation. We, we're never really going to improve this situation. And I had been quoted in the paper on this. So I'm just repeating something that I've said once before. We're not going to really change this environment, until some president, hopefully it's president Bush, but until some president has a rose garden ceremony and frequently hopefully, honoring whistle blowers, and giving them a badge of honor, okay. I forget who was next, I'll get you. And then you, sir, go ahead.\r\n\r\n- Should Congress support the creation of separate agencies for the management of future space programs such as the Mission Planet Earth or the moon or Mars mission?\r\n\r\n- I don't think so, but I wouldn't pretend to be an authority on whether or not we ought to set up other agencies but I think sometimes we tend to dilute authority. And when you do that you dilute responsibility and it's easy to get buck passing. It's a major problem within government, generally, the federal government particularly, I guess what the way to answer it for her. I'm not against considering it, but I I feel that you would have a, an overwhelming burden. You'd have some burden of convincing me that we ought to go with that direction.\r\n\r\n- Do you see the United States Congress actively funding the Space Station Freedom, enough that it will be operational by the year 2000?\r\n\r\n- Well, hopefully by the year of 97, because we just slept two years now, you know, but you're probably right in being pessimistic, that even if we're planning on funding it by 97, the way things work out in government, it probably won't happen until the year 2000. But I'm hopeful as a result of that major decision that was made two years ago, three years ago, maybe when we decided we were not going to scuttle it, we moved, decided to move ahead. You've got already tremendous investment to protect, there's general agreement of the good, it's potential of it. You, you also, the longer you go, the more you build up the, and I hate to use this term, but the vested interest in it, not only the corporation that's doing, the corporations that are doing the work but the jobs that are connected with it, you kind of get into a a be one mentality here where somebody in NASA probably can tell you every congressional district in the United States, where there is a bolt made that's put in the spacecraft or whatever holds it together. I've been through a mock-up of them. So that's, you know, more about spacecrafts probably than I do. I've gone to actually physically see what they're going to look like, but I don't know much about their operation, but anyway, you know, this gives it political support. You know, I could tell you in some areas of of defense where that's been bad and it's allowed the continuation of a lot of programs that shouldn't be continued. Some of them that even put the lives of American military people more in jeopardy than it does the lives of the enemy, but that may be a political situation that's good for the continuation of the space station which we hope has all good and no downside to it. But you know, only time will tell, next. I don't, I, I think that I should I will take more questions, but you don't have to feel like you have to ask questions. Well in fact, we've only got a couple of minutes left so do you want me to quit right now? Nobody had their hand up. Okay, thank you all very much. And glad you had me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/41088/file/112936#t=0.0,685.176"}]}]}]}