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My name is Martha Stewart, and I'd like to welcome you to the Institute on World Affairs. Before we get started today I'd like to make a couple of announcements. The three o'clock lecture this afternoon has been canceled. Ricardo Melendez Ortiz is on his way to Tokyo right now. So he can't be with us. The eight o'clock lecture this evening is still on however and at eight o'clock, it will be in the Sunroom where Gerardo Bedowski, the director of the Natural Resource Program at the University for Peace in Costa Rica will speak on forest development and conservation. Our speaker today, Dr. Robert Waller may already be familiar to many of you. He has taught business management at the University of Northern Iowa since 1968 and served as Dean of UNI School of Business. He is an expert in applied mathematics, economics and social policy with strong convictions about the importance of the environment. He's also an avid nature photographer and a skilled musician. This is a man of eclectic interests and talents. Currently the state of Iowa has had the good sense and foresight to financially support Dr. Waller through the Institute for Decision Making at UNI allowing him a year away from the classroom in order to ponder a vision for Iowa. He's the author of many books, he tells me many technical books, which I have not read but my personal favorite is a collection of essays on romance, Iowa, people, and the environment entitled Just Beyond the Firelight, my copy of which I might add has been read re-read and lent out so many times it has yet to make it to a bookshelf. I might also add that there are copies of this book on the table behind and later today, if you're interested they'll be available for purchase. So please join me today in welcoming one of Iowa's valuable natural resources, Robert James Wallen.\r\n\r\n- I would just as soon talk about poetry actually, or photography but that's not what I've been assigned to do. This is a tough piece of work we've got ahead of us in the next hour or so. I'm going to get right into it without any delay. As you know, from your week here and from your general reading examples of environmental degradation are all around us now. The earth is warming, there's no question about that, Due to human production and consumption activities we see a decided deterioration in the ozone layer. That's already been confirmed. The landfills are bulging, nobody knows what to do with hazardous waste. Our soil is eroding from rapacious agricultural practices. Acid rain is destroying prime forest land and water and species extinction is accelerating at an alarming rate. As some of you may not be all that aware of the species extinction problem, maybe you've had something on it this week, I'm not sure, everybody knows about the elephant, and some people know about the blue whale those are sort of big and lovable and so on. Estimates are just phenomenal in terms of, nobody knows what's happening to species extinction for sure. The biggest estimate I've seen which is probably too high is a hundred a day, it's running right now with the destruction of the rainforest and so on. I'm going to do a piece on that before too long because not many people are really aware of what's going on. Anyway, you get the point. There's a lot of environmental problems, you've been thinking about them, talking about them all week and other times too. What's more interesting, or just as interesting is at the very same time, we're seeing an ascendance of the desire for political freedom and economic freedom all over the world. And we can't be any more current about that than what occurred yesterday of course, in East Berlin with the wall opening up. In Moscow, the comrades are running their own beauty shops and auto repair firms. Vietnam even, the government is experimenting with the encouragement of privately owned business in the retail and service sectors. Bulgaria is doing the same, venture capital is being supplied to entrepreneurs in Hungary. Tanzania is cutting back on the public payrolls. Angola is trying to sell state companies to private entrepreneurs. Nigeria has abandoned exchange controls and India is witnessing a phenomenal rise of middle-class desiring VCRs and no meddling in their business affairs. So on the one hand, we ought to feel a lot of exuberance. And certainly we do about the ascendancy of freedom but particularly political freedom all over the world. Freedom is afoot and commerce seems to be more and more unfettered. At the same time we ought to be haunted by the not so vague sense that our natural systems are crumbling around us. And I might add before I go any further in case you have, anybody has this comment later centrally planned economies are no better at dealing with the natural environment than our democracies. There's plenty of evidence to show that. But that's not the point of my talk today. The issue is this, given the rising political and economic aspirations of much of the world what can we say about the relationship between freedom and treatment of nature? That's what I want to talk about. There are I think three ideas that are central to all of this. The first has to do with the politics of democracy particularly as democracy currently functions in America but like it or not, we are the model that everybody looks to. Second, there's a matter of private property. And third is the ethic of economic growth which regardless of how you cast the present trends and world economics is the propellant for almost everything that's going on. And I think we need to emphasize that over and over again because it's being overlooked with all of the cheering about the releasing of government controls and the ascendancy of private enterprise. The reason for this is economic growth. That's why countries are doing it. It's not just because they think independent business people are wonderful. Let me talk then first of all about politics and the natural environment. This is in three parts as I said. Presumably political freedom involves not only other freedom of not only freedom of speech and other rights similar to that but also the election of a representative government. I'll take that as axiomatic here. In the discussion of rights, our own Declaration of Independence has the following to say that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. And from Lincoln, of course, we have government of the people, by the people, for the people and furthermore for good or bad and not many people know this I think, we live under the legacy of a philosopher and economist named Jeremy Bentham, who said the happiness of the individuals of whom a community is composed that is their pleasures and their security is the end and sole end, which the legislator ought to have in view. In those words and, and others like them rest part of the dilemma I think that we and the emerging democracies now confront in dealing with the natural environment and any other problems I might add that requires sacrifice of the present for some long run benefit. The natural environment's slow to anger. It's it's like, it's like the kid on the playground who takes a lot of abuse over the years a quiet kid and he explodes finally in rage. I pointed this out in some writings way back in the, oh gosh, early seventies, I think it was nature is quiet and nature tends to be resilient. And until the last few years when the effects of our abuse have become all too evident nature's apparently suffered our mistreatment without any complaint. Apparently is the operative word there. Suddenly it seems to many people, our water has gone bad. Our soil has disappeared or become contaminated and our air is fouled. Well, let's ask, were there any warnings? According to Bill McKibben who wrote a marvelous piece in a recent, in the New Yorker recently, September 11th if you're interested, it's a preview of his book called the End of Nature, a frightening piece incidentally, McKibben says that a 19th century Swedish scientist named Svante Arrhenius recognized that humans were in the process of quote evaporating our coal mines into the air, end quote. And as early as a century before that, Jean Baptist Fourier had speculated about the same matter. The general scientific opinion held however that the oceans could absorb all the excess CO2 that we could produce. Until 1957, when a study by the Scripps Oceanographic Institute said, nonsense that's not going to work. Now there was Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson was an eloquent and ardent spokesman for soil conservation. And in his writings, he advocated contour plowing, clover planning, crop rotation and so on to retain soil fertility and the soil itself. And the name you may not be familiar with but should be revered in American life is a guy named Hugh Hammond Bennett. He's the grand old man of soil conservation. And he was convinced of the dangers of soil erosion by 1903. He spent his life studying and writing and speaking about this topic, and in 1928 he published a US forest service report called Soil Erosion A National Menace, that was 1928. And there were others, many others that warned us. Rachel Carson spoke to the dangers of chemicals in our biosystems 30 years ago. Nearly 20 years ago we celebrated earth day and promptly forgot all about it. In 1974, the first studies appeared warning of problems in the ozone layer, worries about the clear cutting of the Amazonian rainforest and other tropical rainforests had been around for a long time and anybody who just goes outdoors and walks along the rivers, and that looks at the forest and the birds and knows what's been happening. We've been trashing the place. There's no question about that. The question is why have we done it? We consider ourselves to be God-fearing and prudent forward-looking. We spend 52 cents of every tax dollar on military preparedness and we threaten to wave lasers around in the sky at the slightest threat from anybody else. Well, given our fear of God then and our potential enemies, how is it we've been able to ignore the destruction of our life-sustaining systems on earth? Think about it this way, if another country had been poisoning our water the way we have been poisoning it we would be on their beaches by now. We would have been there a long time ago as a matter of fact. Well, some people say the reason is biblical. That certain convenient interpretations of scripture not only allow but promote dominance over the natural order. And you can certainly find that in the Bible and interpret it that way if you want to. Others think it has to do with old habits that stemmed from the time when we confronted an unspoiled continent and simply saw no restrictions on exploding resources and getting rid of our trash. Well, I think it runs deeper than that. Those explanations probably have some validity but they don't promise much in the way of getting out of our current mess. And I've generally found arguments about religion to be unproductive. And obviously we've already breached our frontiers, the limits of nature. I think it has more to do with the particular and peculiar liabilities of freedom and more generally simply the way we go about our daily business. I suggest that there's a rather natural though, not necessarily admirable tendency to apply a high discount rate to the future. For example, given two alternatives one which brings rewards in the short run but has great long run costs and another which requires a present sacrifice, but with possible long run benefits of a substantial kind it doesn't take much change in the discount rate, the interest rate, in other words, as applied to flows of costs and benefits to make the short run alternative dominant. And clearly we do this, we manipulate the discount rate. We do it either overtly or in a real subtle psychological sense. We manipulate the discount rate to suit our preferences for short-term gratification. In brief, what we do is apply high discount rates, high rates of interest in our decision-making and every student in basic finance knows that the short run always will triumph over the long run when that occurs. Okay, look at the cost benefit study sometime, that deal with whether or not to build a dam in a wilderness area. You just study those cost benefit equations real carefully. And you'll find that it may only take a change of 0.4% in the discount rate being used to evaluate flows of costs and benefits to flip that decision one way or the other. It's not very hard to manipulate that either intently or just psychologically, because it's always an estimate anyway. Now this phenomenon is true I suggest even when we're dealing with long run tangible problems which makes it even more interesting, such as the decay of our physical infrastructure in this country our gas mains, our water mains, our sewer lines. Do you think that the bill for the bailout of the SNLs is big? Just wait til we start looking at the repair of the infrastructure in this country because it's been neglected. Some of our sewer mains are a hundred, 150 years old and we're going to have to tear up the streets to get at them. New York is already discovering that. It's even more true when the short run increases, the trade-off is even more true, when the short run increases are intangible commodities versus more distant and somewhat abstract intangible kinds of things such as beauty or wilderness or even an abstract notion such as the survivability of our species. Alexander Hamilton, it just resonates in the Federalist Papers when he says, quote, momentary passions and immediate interests have a more active and impervious control over human conduct than general or remote considerations of policy, utility, and justice. Carl Sagan says the same thing in metaphor, we are like butterflies, who flutter for a single day and think it is forever. I like that. Why do we choose the short run then and refuse sacrifices for benefits in the long run? Are we evil? Oh, I don't think so. Ignorant, stupid, possibly. Among other things just consider this, we lead very busy lives. The pace in America is just incredible at the moment. Is the environment on your list of things to do today? Probably not for most people. That's not pressing or so it seems, and nature has that way of sort of, maybe like the quiet kid on the playground. We'll get around to that kid after a while. Nature doesn't fax you and ask for an immediate reply. Connected with this is our system of learning that tends to get us by on a day-to-day basis. In simplistic terms this system can be described as if it feels good, do it. And I'm really not being, trying to be humorous there. Put another way, in light of the complexity that we confront in our decision-making and in our individual planning, there's a great difficulty in doing very detailed decision-making and planning under conditions of complexity. So we tend to respond to rewards and avoid punishments in my estimation. And overall, that's not a bad strategy for daily survival, tends to work out pretty good. The problem arises however, when we try to apply that strategy to the long run when we have to take the long run into account. Sacrifice doesn't feel good. And therefore we don't want to do it most of the time. And we don't. Well, who should be taking care of the long run then? Obviously we've had problems that have been building up for a long time, who should be taking care of them? Well, ideally our elected officials are supposed to be those with the long view and the ideal, a workable democracy always involves some compromise between what strong elected representatives believe is right, and what the constituents say. But that's not the way it's working. It seems in fact that our politicians are always running for office and notice if the pronouncements of the Declaration of Independence and Lincoln and Bentham are to be taken seriously, this is probably the way it's supposed to be. But we have also been successful at transferring our short run inclinations into political preferences. And we demand that our politicians accede to them. When it comes to matters requiring the government to ask us for personal self-sacrifice, we'd behave in much the same way that we do in our daily lives, favoring short run rewards and avoiding punishments. And we translate these feelings via the mail or the lobbyists or the campaign fund or the ballot box. I have to resort to a fairly lengthy quote from the legendary columnist and political philosopher, Walter Lippmann at this point, he just thunders about things like this. He says, faced with choices between the hard and the soft the normal propensity of democratic governments is to please the largest number of voters. The pressure of the electorate is normally for the soft side of the equations. That is why governments are unable to cope with reality when elected assemblies and mass opinions become decisive in the state, whether or not statesman to resist the inclination of the voters and there are only politicians to excite and exploit them. And he continues, democratic politicians have preferred to shun foresight about troublesome changes to come knowing that the massy veto from the electorate was latent and that it would be expensive to them and their party if they provoked it. Lippmann wrote that 45 years ago, things haven't changed very much. No politician I know of has come to us yet and said, citizens, the natural environment is in danger. You must prepare to sacrifice for the future. If you've heard that anywhere that let me know okay? Even though the conservatives currently in power in Washington are worried paradoxically and sort of perversely as a matter of fact. Kevin Phillips the conservative analyst was writing the Washington Post and he described the current state of things as quote, a frightening inability to define and debate America's emerging problems. And even President Bush's director of the budget Richard Darman last summer really climbed on the government and the voters for mimicking spoiled children with demands of, quote, now now-ism, our collected short, collective short-sightedness, our obsession with the here and now, our reluctance to adequately address the future. And yesterday I might add that President Bush along with Margaret Thatcher and Japan decided not to do anything about CO2 emissions for a while. You may have seen that, oh that was Tuesday actually they did it. In addition to the short-term thinking there's a problems of, problem of knowledge. I'm still talking about politics in the democracy. And in general, Americans have a distaste, this is a bit of a generality, they have a distaste for the study of science but the next one is not a generality, and an even greater dislike for the study of mathematics and a complete misunderstanding of how knowledge goes or goes about getting built. Americans do not understand how science works and how knowledge gets built. Now you add to this and intolerance for ambiguity and you'll find that in the academic world more probably than anywhere else, what are the tests going to look like, how will my grades be determined on, on, and on and on. And the faculty, the faculty is no better. How will we be judged? How am I gonna, you know, I was dean for a long time, and I learned those things. We have an enormous intolerance for ambiguity as a society and as an academic community. When you do this, add our dislike for science to our fear of mathematics, to our intolerance for ambiguity and serious thought in general you have the makings of ignorance and intolerance for an ecological science that has to talk in terms of estimates and probabilities. And people don't understand that scientists, even hard scientists in the physical sciences, even with their great successes still fundamentally are talking in terms of probabilities. It's just that they're awful close to being right in terms of moonshots and so on. But in terms of new knowledge, the probabilities are are not quite as high. The problems that we confront are simply too new and they're too complex for quick and easy answers of the kind that both the electorate ourselves, and politicians demand. The cause effect chains are long and subtle with feedback effects and surprises inherent in them at nearly every stage. For example, and this is something a lot of hasn't been publicized much at all. The greenhouse effect may contain within itself, that is the warming of the earth, feedback effects that we don't even know exist or just can barely begin to think about. One possibility is that as carbon dioxide and other gasses trap the solar infrared radiation and the atmosphere begins to warm additional water vapor will be created. And as the water vapor is created, this leads to further warming and hence to more water vapor. That's called a positive feedback system, if you've ever, if you haven't studied cybernetics. Or the warming may melt the permafrost in the North releasing methane, which is contained within the permafrost, which in turn leads to more warming which in turn leads to more melting of the permafrost. Notice I've said may on both of those? That's the state of where we are right now. Estimates where perhaps, may, maybe, it might happen. I'll come back to this in a moment. It's all very subtle, it's all very complex and seems apparently beyond our reach. An anecdote in International Wildlife illustrates this a commuter in smog choked Atlanta maneuvers his out of tune Chevrolet through backed up rush hour traffic. And three years later, trees die on a North Carolina mountain top. Subtle, the chains are long and very complex. At the moment we only know three things. One, there are going to be some environmental changes. Some of them are irreversible, irrevocable. Some of these changes, first of all, there will be changes. Some are going to be irreversible, as far as we can tell particularly the earth warming problem. And three, we are uncertain about the magnitude and timing of the changes. And Americans tend to be impatient with such theoretical niceties. In the absence of conclusive proof, probabilities are always necessary. Thinking about the future always involves probabilistic reasoning, but it turns out humans not only dislike probabilities by and large they aren't very good at using them. Estimating them or dealing with them. For example, there's plenty of evidence in the decision-making literature to show that we assign higher than warranted probabilities to desirable outcomes and the reverse to things that we don't want to happen. We do it all the time. This amounts to kind of a psychological denial. And I suggest we as a society are going through a mass case of psychological denial right now. Adley Stevenson said given the choice between disagreeable fact and agreeable fantasy, we will choose agreeable fantasy. And I might add that when it comes to the natural environment, we tend to deal with probabilities in a mighty curious fashion. And here's an example. Think about this for a moment. The US Food and Drug Administration demands an incredibly high level of proof of safety before drugs are put out onto the market. Everybody is aware of that, okay. The tests go on and on and on and on for years. Now think about how we deal with the natural environment. We just go ahead and do it and then ask for proof of harm later on. We do it in the complete reverse from the way we handle drugs in our society. In general then I argue we favor the short term while nature requires long-term thinking. And we most decidedly transmit these preferences to our elected officials or those seeking office. And it's just not in nature. I mean, you can look at all kinds of problems the recent catastrophic health care plan and the way that's being dealt with at the moment. It's just a, it's just a shambles. It's another case of the short run versus the long run. The fault, ultimately, as much as we might not like to admit it is ourselves. The fault is in the electorate and not in our public officials. Do you agree with this? I used to think it was the reverse. I wanted to think of it as the reverse, but eventually I came to understand that blaming the politicians is simply a way of excusing ourselves. In other words, we get the kind of leadership that we deserve. Eventually, and this is the problem that Litman dealt with a lot, even 40, 50 years ago, events began to outrun us that democracy doesn't seem to be able to respond rapidly enough to certain kinds of events. For example, it's hard to imagine for me at least, a United States without the Everglades. Somehow the Everglades is just always been part of the United States. When I think of great wonders of the world in fact, I think of the Everglades it looks like they're gone. The most recent forecast is that they can not be saved. There are people who are trying to reconstruct the entire ecosystem down there and whether they can do that or not I'm not sure. I don't know how much you've read about that but a lot of it has to do with farm runoff and so forth, nitrogen and so on. Anyway, it looks irreversible at the moment. The pathetic thing is we see it happening, we don't want it to happen but we're like the narcotics addict. Every time we think about a cure it seems worse than the disease itself for it means short run sacrifice for the long run good. Then there are other world class environmental problems if this isn't depressing enough. I've been talking about the greenhouse effect and the thinning of the ozone. There are some others, the poisoning of the oceans and so on but in terms of democracy, we're going to have we're already seeing something similar to what occurs within a country, a democratic society in the sense that each nation is trying to pursue what it thinks is good for itself. Each nation is independent. Yet we seek to all agree to certain kinds of bans, for example, chloroflurocarbons or dirty coal-burning processes, even when it's not in the short-term interest of any of them to do it. And even the developed countries have been slow to act on these matters. My gosh, something like 67 nations agreed to to limit CO2 emissions this week. And as I mentioned before the US, Japan, and England voted against it for God's sakes. Well, there's good reason for that I might add since we have about five to 6% of the world population and we contribute 23% of the CO2 emissions to the worlds, to the worlds, to the atmosphere. Okay so now we ask the underdeveloped countries to come into line with us on, for example, chlorofluorocarbon emissions. Why should they? It's not in their interest to do so in the short term and God knows they've got short term problems to solve without cooperating in the solution of problems caused by those countries and ourselves included who have been so wanton in the use of the world's resources. Consider Africa just for a moment. 45% of the population in Africa is under 15 years of age. And you only have to think about that, and there are other statistics that are almost as frightening to take the world into account, it's hot in Africa too, as you probably know. And they would probably like to have air conditioning just like we have air conditioning. And I guess we are working on some substitutes for the chlorofluorocarbons now in air conditioning, but you know, it's just an example. I'll come back to Africa in a little bit. When I talk about diapers, I think that's in my talk somewhere. You might keep that statistic in mind. And maybe it isn't. Let me take a short digression here for a moment into poverty. I'm going to talk about that for just a minute within the context of the politics of democracy. 18 months ago, as part of this Institute I presented a talk that dealt with the relationships between poverty and the natural environment. My contention was then and still is that poverty is a major obstacle to intelligent treatment of the natural environment. Indira Gandhi, once remarked poverty is the biggest environmental problem in India. And in brief, my argument at that time ran as follows, the poor with severely constrained sets of alternatives confronting them and criteria oriented to the short run even more than our own will surely not view environmental protection and enhancement as important criteria in making decisions as a Jesuit priest from South America once told me you don't preach religion to people with hungry bellies, or as Thomas Fuller once observed he that has nothing is frightened of nothing. And I might add those who are hungry, poor, and thirsty care not about the condition of the river or acid rain, or let alone the the highly probabilistic forecasts about the polar ice caps melting in the year 2050. When you're poor you get what you can today and to hell with tomorrow. So along with the basic injustices, suffering, and human indignities that accompany poverty we have a second order effect, in that the deterioration of the very ecosystems that sustain us will be encouraged particularly as the developing nations attempt their long climb towards prosperity. And now the cycle starts to close. For as we devote more and more of our resources to crash programs for cleaning up the environment undoubtedly the poor, those with the least political clout will suffer as resources are transferred and reassigned to other priorities. Let me turn now to the notion of private property. Rousseau in his famous discourse on political economy in 1758 said it should be remembered that the foundation of the social contract is property and as first condition that everyone that should be maintained in the peaceful possession of what belongs to him. Private property rights certainly seem to be a natural accompaniment to political freedom and certainly economic freedom. And such rights bring us directly into the clash between the private interest and the public interest. I bluntly forecast that this clash, particularly in the realm of private property rights versus public rights will become one of the major areas of debate in the next decade or two. Consider for a moment our rivers. They've been dammed, and silted, polluted and drained, channeled and straightened, wire strung across them. Oil spilled into them. And last week, this week, and they've been used as drag strips by the fools among us. Fortunately, that's the last one's been recently outlawed in Iowa. I first began really seriously thinking about this when I encountered wire across the Shell Rock River on a long canoe trip, which I took a few years back. It's a small but clear example of what economists like to call externalities. That is to say someone is, is benefiting at the expense of someone else. I get the profit, you get the costs or part of the cost, economists call those externalities, externalizing the costs. Cattle defecate in the river. And there's a spoiling of recreational opportunities. You haven't lived incidentally until you've been, you're coming 15 miles an hour through a fast rapids towards, towards barbed wire that's got 110 household current strung through it. And your dog is sitting up on the front of the of the canoe, looking at the stars as you're rolling along and the sun is in your eyes okay? So I really began thinking about that at that time, the wire across the river in terms of how I felt about it, but not just that, the cattle defecating in the water destroying the bank and its soil and water retaining properties. On April 6th of this year however, the Iowa Senate Environment and Energy Committee killed a measure that would have required Iowa farmers to leave an uncultivated strip 16 and a half feet wide between their fields, their fields and nearby rivers and streams. And these are called filter strips. And they act as buffers to prevent erosion of our land and the poisoning of the waters by chemically laden soil. I doubt incidentally 16 and a half feet is enough but that's a start. As part of the debate over filter strips, Senator H. K. Hedge, a Republican and farmer from Fremont said, quote, it bothers me that we'd set a precedent of being able to go in and remove privately owned land from production. I have to catch my breath on that now. What the people who tout private property rights in matters such as these seem not to understand is that private property rights ceased to carry any moral imperative when the behavior of those holding such rights are encroaching upon the rights of others. In this case, the rights of the rest of us to enjoy clean streams, pure drinking water and the assurance that a productive soil base remains in place for ourselves, the generations to come and let's not forget our fellow non-human members of the natural order. And furthermore, it's important to note that the right of private property and we forget this, is a matter of culture. It's an artifact of civil society, not something ordained by the highest rational power in the universe. I see nowhere by the granting of private property rights have we also granted the right to despoil and to plunder, to exercise what the distinguished English jurist a long time ago, Sir William Blackstone called the sole and despotic dominion over the land and the resources of nature. He said the ultimate title does not lie in the owner. The title is in mankind, in the people as a corporate community. The rights of the individual in that patrimony are creations of the law and have no other validity except as they are ordained by law. The purpose of laws which established private property is not to satisfy the acquisitive and possessive instincts of primitive man but to promote the grand ends of civil society which comprehend the peace and security of individuals. Because the legal owner enjoys the use of a limited necessity belonging to all men, he can not be sovereign lord of his possessions. He is not entitled to exercise his absolute and therefore arbitrary will, he owes duties that correspond with his rights, his ownership is a grant made by the laws to achieve not his private purposes but the common social purpose. And therefore the laws of property are created by man and should be judged, reviewed, and when necessary amended. So as to define the specific system of rights and duties that will promote those ends of society, end quote. This is the doctrine of private property which denies pretention to what I would call or what Blackstone called the sole and despotic dominion. Historically, we saw regression in England to a notion that property had only rights and duties. And we saw all kinds of intolerable evils. We saw damage to their neighbors and to descendants and to the soil and to the creatures of the forest. So the public philosophy can be stated quite simply here. One, the earth is the general property of all humankind and the creatures who share it with us. Two private titles of ownership are assigned by lawmaking authorities to promote the grand ends of civil society. Private property is therefore, three, a system of legal rights and duties a product of culture rather than of divine origin. Those are my words towards the end there. If private property is a natural accoutrement to democracy and it certainly seems to be, then democracies have to immediately begin to lay bare the rights and privileges pertaining to such ownership. In spite of the farmer's wish to graze his cattle with access to the river and to plant his crops right up to the water's edge, I as a member of the public also have a powerful claim to float upon those waters freely and to take my water from clean unsilted rivers unhampered by barbed wire carrying 110 volts of household current. I've got more to say on that but I'll stop on that issue for awhile. Let me turn to economic growth and what I call the legitimacy of modern societies, which is the third and last part of this. If we wonder why we flounder so in attempting to deal with our environmental problems let me offer this as well. Politicians and the business community have in general disliked environmentalist. Environmentalists represent by the very speaking for nature, a cost of doing business. A cost that is heretofore not appeared on the income statements of business. Gross national product, our much revered measure of national of social advancement is computed through a sophisticated, but highly flawed set of measurements called the national income accounts. GNP is the most obvious part of that to most people. Now, unfortunately these accounts do not measure the true cost of doing business nor of economic growth. For example, if a business firm produces a product and sells it at some point the dollar value of this product is counted in GNP. There's a price that goes into GNP. But at the same time this firm pollutes the river or the air nowhere did these costs appear in our national income accounts, even though they are true and real costs of doing business. If a business firm calculated its net profit before taxes by omitting, for example, the cost of labor we would clearly say that they have overstated their profits okay? But we do exactly the same thing in the destruction of our natural environment. We've incurred costs that have not appeared in either our private or public accounts. Therefore we consistently overstate our economic progress and the measurements can get unbelievably perverse. If we go ahead and build a new sewage plant to clean up the river, which we didn't count the costs on the value of the new sewage plant goes into GNP, into the national income accounts. You can't lose under this kind of an accounting system. Business people know this. And so do the politicians and neither want to admit it for such admissions cast considerable doubt on our progress as a society, as measured by economic growth. If the true costs of production were really accounted for there are quite a few business firms that would not be operating today. They'd be in the red. And prices, however would reflect the true cost of doing business. That's one reason and it's probably the major one, why the business community so stoutly resists environmentalists. Environmentalists represent costs of doing business that have heretofore been ignored. Recently in Clinton, Iowa a rendering firm operating under than the name of National Byproducts responded to complaints about odors emanating from the plant by telling Clinton officials that quote this firm is in business to make money not to spend money. What the management of that rendering plant is saying is an example of what I'm talking about. We do not want to pay the true cost of our production activities, period. Similarly, I doubt if Ronald Reagan would have been able to ask with as much assurance, quote are you better off now than you were four years ago? If we had really been measuring the true costs of what the production we had done in early 1980s. Another reason environmentalist are not held in high esteem is that they're like little figures out there on the horizon and they're jumping up and down all the time with signs that say limits, limits or possible limits. The encouraging words from Washington and elsewhere in our political structure are result of no politician really wanting to tell the citizens of this country the truth. And the hard grinding truth is this, we may not be able to continue to live the way we are now. Because the natural environment can not sustain our profligate ways, period. Nobody it seems, my God nobody, wants to break the bad news. Good reason for it. There's a tendency to shoot the messenger. In all of those cases and forget about the fundamental underpinnings of the environmental dilemma. And the most critical underpinning is an economy and a society that seems to be based on high-intensity consumption. And furthermore, it increasingly appears and this is incredibly frightening, that our entire legitimacy as a society is based on such consumption. I suggest we seek more economic consumption because we have been encouraged to seek more because more is good and less or the status quo is bad. And it isn't any more complicated than that. If you think it makes more sense than that, it doesn't. Nobody, and particularly the politician, wants to examine the legitimacy of our contemporary lives because the questions, let alone the answers, are troubling. William Lease puts it hauntingly. The principle of legitimacy for modern society now consists in a permanently rising level of consumption. There is no apparent end to the escalation of demand and no assurance that a sense of contentment or wellbeing will be found in the higher reaches and material abundance. In those societies where such a market economy already exists, and here we come, what I mentioned earlier, or is in the process of formation, a principle article of faith is that the economy should continue to expand and to offer an ever widening array of commodities for consumers. And a principle concern for such societies is to ensure that a sufficient quantity of energy and material resources will be available for this purpose. As I said, that's frightening, it's truly frightening. I think he's right. And it's also sad. That's another speech, but anyway, the sad part of it. But it becomes even more frightening however, is that resource availability may not be our most pressing problem in the near term. This is what we've been worrying about all these years. It may be the disposal of the byproducts from our production activities. For example, again, the greenhouse layer and the ozone layer or the greenhouse problem the ozone layer issue. The disposal of hazardous waste and everyday household waste. As I said earlier, our 5 to 6% of the world's population emits about 23% of the world's CO2 annually. And the Sierra Club in a recent article talked about this exact issue also. Think about the input, I tend to think of real simple terms I think about production processes as input, transformations and output. We've always been worried about the input side will we have enough fossil fuels to keep us going. Now we've got the double worry. We've got to worry about the output side. What are we going to do with all this stuff okay? In other words, it's the old familiar nemesis the energy crisis flipped over on its head. It's it's turned upside down. And wait until the rest of the world wants to start growing to get as well off as as we are. The numbers float around. But roughly we use, depends what numbers you want to use, 25 to 33% of the world's energy every year with our 5% of the population. Now you don't have to have a PhD in applied mathematics to understand that not everybody's going to be able to do that the rest of the world is probably not gonna like that news incidentally. One example is China. To power its development program China plans to nearly double coal consumption in the next decade. Oh my God. And by 2025 it may be the world's largest emitter of carbon dioxide. Well, the impact stemming from the high consumption society are obvious and they're everywhere. And I listed a number of them at the beginning of this talk. And I just want to digress a moment. I believe that the high consumption society that we have entered and are living under right now, which consumption exceeds all reasonable bounds has led to what I call a dopey culture. And I'm not talking about narcotics here. It's a culture that actually gets excited about new car models, the current range of intellectual garbage offered on commercial television, the latest stereo innovation, the latest facial cream, and probably a new design of toothpaste tube. It's all become mindless. And aside from those, with vulgarities on them I might tell you that my least favorite bumper sticker is the one that says born to shop, okay? I go out late at night the other night I sat down, I was flipping through the channels and here was one of those pseudo talk shows which are rigged up to sell goods. And there were people actually applauding car wax. I decided that was, that was it. If my Smith and Wesson had been within reach I had to put it right in my, I'd have put it right in my ear at that point, the people were applauding car wax and how well it worked. There was a guy demonstrating, God. And this mindlessness and this constant need for shallow and transitory stimulation we've forgotten how to think. And therefore we've lost the capacity to deal with issues that confront us as a democratic society in an enlightened and civilized fashion. So we cry to our scientists, that's the next thing we're doing. you just watch, hey scientists, give me a fix it. Here come up and fix this for us, will you? Oh by God they're coming forth too, explode atomic bombs and that'll send clouds up and that'll help the greenhouse effect. I mean they're proposals to this effect right now. The electorate doesn't want to change and the politicians don't want to change because the electorate doesn't. To change means uncertainty, ambiguity, and a confrontation with the really nasty question of if we're not growing as fast as we have been what do we do about dividing up the pie? Particularly the world pie as everybody else would like to live a little better. We Americans are approaching 250 million in population. What about the other or the rest of the other 5 billion? You don't have to, as I said to have taken advanced calculus to figure out that it ain't going to work under the current process. Let me summarize all of this. We should applaud first of all and I hardly do incidentally, the trend towards more political and economic freedom in the world. More open societies in general. I think we should seek a better material life for the world. You only have to look at the pictures of the Ethiopian babies, for example to understand that. I think we should have more free press. And I think we should have democratic principles everywhere. So don't get me wrong, our applause should not be muted when it comes to those things. But democracy brings no assurance that things are going to be all right. Particularly when we come to the natural environment. On the contrary, you can argue that an enlightened dictatorship is more capable of handling most of our problems than we are as a free and democratic society. As we struggle with a short-sighted electorate, politicians rather than statesman, the philosophical issues of private property, and the idea that rapacious economic growth is the very foundation of the legitimacy of our society. And that's what truly frightens me. If we cannot come to grips with the problems that democracy has fostered, then the problems themselves may bring about the demise of democracy. That's a little strong. I'd be the first to admit that, it's something just to think about. And all of this, all the debate, all the tears all the search for truth and all the millions that have died to protect democracy, it'll all have been in vain. For we'll we'll have allowed our own inadequacies to destroy ourselves. Remember this and nothing else from this talk. Sustainability is the first problem of any society. And how do we sustain ourselves? Well you need food and you need water and you need air. That's at the very bottom. Not even threats from from foreign powers can threaten a nation more than the demise of its natural systems. And if we allow the continued deterioration of our environment, I can see a possible scenario where our general freedoms are going to be abridged in an effort to confront the problems of resource use and the disposal of commodities. Just wait til you see what happens if gas goes to $4 a gallon where it ought to be, you know somewhere in there, know it's an arbitrary figure, $3.89, six, it doesn't matter. See how well Los Angeles would do in the face of that. They've got problems already. We tend to accept democracy as if it were the norm. That's another error we make, rather than the exception in the conduct of human affairs. And on the contrary freedom is an exception rather than the rule. And it's a rather recent development at that. As an early French philosopher said, freedom is the luxury of self-discipline. And I contend that this luxury like other exotic luxuries currently is in exceedingly short supply. Somebody is going to impose discipline on us. There is simply no other choice. I prefer that we begin to run against the traditional human grain to forgo our short-term behavior and think of the natural systems. But I'm not optimistic that we will, frankly, simply because of the way our day-to-day decision-making works. If you wonder do I have any practical day-to-day solutions to all of this? The answer is a cautious and tentative yes, but that's another two hours of talking. So I'm just going to leave you with this. We got to take this country back from the cretins. We've got to take the world back, thank you. Want to talk? Something? Argue? Bitch? Okay I think I'll go have my, oh yes?\r\n\r\n- It seems to me in the beginning you sort of confuse political freedom with the free market system.\r\n\r\n- That's a tough issue. That's a tough issue and I've been really struggling with that about the mixed economy, how far political freedom has to go to have a free market system and so on. You caught me on that, I don't have a better explanation than I do, provided a moment about what the boundaries are. How much political freedom do you have to have to have free market system? You know, Russia, China obviously would like to have zero political freedom or at least I hear that, zero political freedom but the benefits of a free market system. And I'm not sure, I think that's something that's in transition right now, it's hard to say where it's going to go. Sweden, they haven't done too bad a job with a mixed economy. You know it's a highly socialistic system but there's a lot--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40889/file/112712#t=0.0,3060.024"}]}]}]}