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1904,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112103#t=2749.9,2754.124"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112103/transcript/25151/annotation/937","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that Japan was, quote, \"a rising star of human","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112103#t=2754.124,2756.717"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112103/transcript/25151/annotation/938","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"self-control and 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At 12 noon in the Gallery of the Memorial Union, Jane Bachnik from the Department of Anthropology at the University of North Carolina will be speaking on \"The Traditional Family in Modern Japan, \"Is There a Future?\" Tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. in the Gallery of the Memorial Union we will be showing a film entitled, \"We Are Driven,\" which will focus on the Nissan Motor Company and Japanese management techniques. Tomorrow evening in the Sunroom of the Memorial Union at 8:00 p.m., Richard Bohr, who is the Executive Director of International Trade for the State of Minnesota, will be speaking on the myths and realities of U.S. and Asian trade. Tonight the keynote speaker is Dr. Bruce Cumings. He will be speaking on \"Northeast Asia in the 21st century, \"Political, Economic and Military Challenges.\" Dr. Cumings is Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, and is a member of the Committee on Korean and East Asian Development. He received his doctorate in Political Science and East Asian studies from Columbia University. Last year, he was invited to the Institute On World Affairs but was called away at the last moment to do a film documentary on North Korea, but this year we're pleased that he can be with us this evening. Please welcome Dr. Bruce Cumings.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much for turning out on a Sunday evening to see somebody who might well not show up. I'm very sorry for those of you that were here last year when I didn't show up and canceled at the very last minute, but I was working with a tense television documentary film group making a documentary, actually about the Korean War, and we had wanted both North and South Korean participation, and had been negotiating with the North Koreans for about two years. And then in October, I went to North Korea for two weeks of very difficult negotiations, came back, thought we would never get in to film in North Korea. We were all worried about the Siberian winter, which of course figured in the Korean War, American Marines and soldiers learned about the Siberian winter in November 1950. We didn't think we'd be able to film very well on November 1987 unless we wanted to film snowbanks and so on. And meanwhile, I'd accepted an invitation to speak here, and literally within 24 hours, I think, of my speaking engagement here, we got word that the North Koreans would let us in, finally, and the documentary was in the final stages of preparation. It's the absolute last time that we could go, and with the winter closing in, it was absolutely the last time in 1987, early '88 that they could have us. So anyway, I apologize very much, and I'm happy that you were kind enough to invite me back. We spent 2 1/2 weeks filming. I got 25 interviews and a lot of footage, and left just as the winter was coming. We had an Indian summer, so I thought it was quite serendipitous. At least, the Siberian winter treated us a lot better than it did American soldiers in 1950. I'm not going to talk much about Korea tonight. I was scheduled to do that last time, but I looked over your program which was sent to me a couple of weeks ago. So, I think it is really a very fine program, not because I'm on it, but because of the diverse nature of the presentations, and it seemed to me from some of the things I had already seen, I've seen the film tomorrow called \"We Are Driven,\" that the people who organized this symposium really wanted to get across not simply the challenges that Asia presents to us, but also a deepened understanding of the sources of industrial development in East Asia and the difficulties of industrial development in East Asia. \"We Are Driven\" is, I think, a very good documentary, a very honest one, which gives an insight into Japanese automobile workers that's quite different than the usual image. The title of my talk, which I hammered out with Pat Miller, she wanted me to talk about most of Asia and I refused simply because we're very parochial if Asia is huge, and I don't know anything more about Southeast or South Asia than I know about England or Africa. If I can talk about China, Korea, and Japan after a fashion. We narrowed the title to \"Northeast Asia \"In The 21st Century, Political, Military, \"and Economic Challenges.\" Now, Americans are very optimistic people, as we know, and they like to look into the future, but I personally am still trying to figure out the 20th century. I don't know a thing about the 21st century. I have no idea what it would be like. Furthermore, I'm not at all sure if I could even sketch the political and military challenges that are likely to face the United States in the 21st century. We're living in a time when I think our basic understanding as citizens, as scholars, and as political leaders in the world when our basic understanding, which was formed, I think, in the aftermath during and after World War II, is increasingly irrelevant to charting the future, whether it's Gorbachev in Russia, or Deng Xiaoping in China, or Ronald Reagan II in Washington. I say Ronald Reagan II because he's become a detente-nik in recent years. It's very difficult to imagine that the Procrustean bed of assumptions that have governed the cold war and American Soviet relations are likely to continue much into the future. It would be almost impossible to imagine Ronald Reagan getting up and talking about the Evil Empire in November 1988. And I think it also would be very difficult to imagine the Soviets acting like an Evil Empire, invading Afghanistan and something in 1988. And I sense that we're just at the beginning of what I think, I hope in many ways, the fundamental changes in world politics. And that of course means that our military challenges will be very different in the 21st century, or even in the near future. The only military challenge I can think of to talk to you about is North Korea, which is really the odd man out in the extraordinary changes that have occurred in Northeast Asia in the last 20 years. It's the one country that is still, along with South Korea, caught in the tensions, the kind of glacial conflict that has existed on the Korean Peninsula since the 1940s. That's the real element of continuity, and yet even there that glacier is slowly breaking and melting, and I think some important changes are just around the corner in Korea as well. So, I think I'd like to talk mostly about the economic challenges, and I don't really know what they're going to be in the 21st century. I just know what they are now. And rather than give you a lot of statistics or make you feel bad about things like the 10 largest banks in the world being Japanese, our deficit being funded by the Japanese, our trade deficit looking like the gross national product a few years ago, rather than talk about that, which I think is really well-known to all of you, I'd like to talk instead about how to think about our challenges and our competition with East Asia. How can we arrive at that necessary empathy, if not sympathy, to understand the people we're dealing with, or to understand ourselves, really, I think we need to understand them. And I was particularly moved to take this tack by an article in the New York Review Of Books in the current issue called, \"The Jingo Olympics\" by Ian Buruma, who has become a New York Review and a New York Times headache, misinterpreter of mysterious East. And he started off this article on \"The Jingo Olympics\" by saying that he had been revulsed. He had felt revulsion at the Olympics in Seoul. And he asked, was that a sign of his decadence, his Western flabbiness? I thought he should have stopped there and just said, yes, and not written the article, but he went on and said, is there something to the idea of the rise and fall of national, even racial vigor? And the whole article is shot through with this idea of Koreans and also Japanese as full of national and racial vigor, and somehow a throwback to the past. And he's really pretty explicit about which past he's talking about in that the 1988 Olympics are compared throughout the article for the 1936 Berlin Olympics. He said, \"How will countries that lack \"the thirst, that scoff at notions of national vigor, \"to take the good life for granted, \"be able to compete with people who are so hungry \"for achievement and recognition for power, \"for gold medals,\" and so on and so forth. I encourage you to read the article, but not because I recommend it but because it's the first time that I've seen commentary on Korea take on the character of much of our commentary on Japan. Korea's a poor country. Korea has a per capita income of about $2,000 a year. To the extent that it's richer than it used to be, it's only a matter of relative wealth. Most Koreans live at a rather rudimentary level compared to Americans, and the country's had tremendous industrial growth and dynamism for the last 20 years, but it's still is fundamentally a country trying to pull itself up, not necessarily by its own bootstraps, but pulling itself up. Along come the 1988 Olympics, South Korea finally decides that it's going to have its coming out party, show itself to the world. They put on a wonderful opening ceremony for the Olympics. I thought it was really quite amazing, a very diverse set of ceremonies, which for the first time opened up, to the world anyway, suppressed traditions and heterodox art forms that the elite often has suppressed itself. These were in many cases, non-Confucian art forms. And then along comes Ian Buruma and he says, \"Aha, folk art. \"Where have I heard that before?\" It sounds like Volkisch, something like that. It sounds like the Nazis. He actually said that in the article. So the Koreans present themselves to the world and Ian Buruma essentially says you're a bunch of fascists and I'm not interested in you, and you can call that my western decadence, but please. And he said he was so happy when the American athletes walked into the stadium wearing Mickey Mouse ears and talking to their friends in the audience and trampling over a couple of African delegations, because this represented the freedom and the joie de vivre and the devil-may-care attitude of Americans. Well, I actually was quite humiliated as an American by the behavior of our team in the Olympics, and by some of the other American behavior there, but I don't want to get into a debate on American behavior, but rather to look at the way in which Ian, to call to your attention the way in which Ian Buruma talked about the Olympics and about Korean development. Now, if you turn to Japan, one of the better examples I could cite of a similar type of analysis, besides Ian Buruma's articles on Japan, would be one by Theodore White in 1985 in the New York Times Magazine, which essentially said the Japanese are fighting the same war that they were fighting in the 1940s, they're just fighting it by economic means instead of military means, and we're losing it. And the article was suffused with the imagery of the 1940s of Japan on the March, a kind of juggernaut. How are we gonna stop them? Or as Ian Buruma says, what about people like us who may be decadent and maybe a little bit flabby, but we take the good life for granted, how are we gonna compete with these people? Well, I'd like to now get into the main subject of my lecture, which is to try and talk, not about the 21st century, but really about the early part of this century or even the later part of the 19th century, and try and convince you that all of this stuff is old as the hills, this kind of prejudicial understanding of what is happening in East Asia. It's in fact, part of a pattern that goes back at least a century. But as preface to that I'd like to recall something that Joseph Schumpeter, a great political economist, talked about in 1942 when he described capitalism as a system that is simultaneously creative and destructive. It moves forth in great waves of creation and destruction. That understanding of capitalist development is my own understanding as well, and it's the basic underpinning of everything I have to tell you. I don't think that much about East Asian development, the challenges we face in East Asia, or American decline, can be understood apart from the fact that the Japanese, the Koreans, the Chinese on Taiwan and Singapore are simply outcompeting us at an old game called industrial capitalism, and the waves of creation there are creating waves of destruction here. Right now, I think we're entering a new world. We're entering a world where a student who is 22 years old can mess up 6,000 computers in the United States, and I don't know about you, but I've read that particular article very carefully because I really couldn't understand what a virus was in a computer. We're living in a world of undreamed of technological innovation, of stunning transformations in the course of its production, whole new worlds of fiscal and economic activity. Just in the last couple of years people have started a kind of 24-hour a day monitoring of stock markets on a world scale, as you know, because the technology is available to do that. The creativity is exhilarating coming out of this extraordinary change before our very eyes, but the destruction is terrifying. In some cases it means the destruction within a family of a father who loses his job at the age of 55 and someone says, \"Well, go get retrained for computers.\" You know, when I'm 55, I doubt that I'm going to want to get retrained on computers. There's something else. I'd rather continue to what I'm doing, retire. Creativity and destruction not only exists simultaneously, but they come together with dizzying speed. It's occurring everywhere on the world, but especially in our relations with East Asia. And the psychological result of that is often a profound sense of unsettling, of unsettlement, a sense of not having one's bearings straight. A sense of a person like me who's been an academic for 15 years and can't tell you much about where the 21st century is going 'cause I'm trying to figure out what's going to happen tomorrow. And I was much more confident five years ago in my predictions than I am today. And I think that reflects both the speed of creation and destruction, and also the personal unsettling, the way in which one's cherished assumptions don't explain things going on in the world. In our relations with East Asia, this speed has the particular phenomenon, or takes on a particular character of Japan suddenly appearing out of nowhere, or South Korea is a better example of that, appearing out of nowhere, within a couple of years. One American buys the first Korean automobile on the American market and two years later 200,000 Americans every year are buying those Korean automobiles. And one has a sense which is represented, I think, in Ian Buruma's rather dark glass looking at Asia, a sense of a great advance happening suddenly, without warning. And then this comes together with the equally unsettling and unfamiliar notion of American decline. I think both are grossly exaggerated, both East Asian advance and the American decline, but that's what we read about all the time. And I think one can see it everywhere. I just saw a movie called \"The Last,\" what was it, \"The Last American Hero\" or something about, anyway. It's about a football player at LSU, and he, everything is just wonderful in the 1950s when he was a football hero, but by the early 70s his whole life was falling apart 'cause all he knows is football. The story itself isn't important. It was a movie about a lost golden age. It was a movie that was very sentimental and appealed to American's deepest emotions about a lost time in the past when everybody was happy in this country. And I think Ronald Reagan's rhetoric has spoken to that kind of nostalgia and sentimentalism throughout his administration. I'm sorry to be part of this two days before the election, but I think many Americans are deeply discomforted by this combination of people that we never competed with before, suddenly outcompeting us simultaneously with the sense of decline. As I say, almost always exaggerated. I recently read a paper by my friend and colleague, John Dower, who teaches at University of California, San Diego, and did a book called \"War Without Mercy,\" about World War II, which won a couple of awards. It came in second for the National Book Award. It's a good book, I recommend it to you. And in that paper, he talked about grassroots perceptions of Japan in this country, what Americans at the grassroots level think. I must say I was when I read this, I felt a lot better because they're far less credulous than most of the Asian scholars who look at Japan and who write about this for the media, much less prejudice than Ian Buruma or Teddy White. The first piece of evidence to back up what I've just told you, in a poll taken about six months ago, a question was asked, does Japan engage in unfair trade practices? About half of the American people thought that Japan did engage in unfair trade practices. What surprised me was that half didn't. I mean, that was a bit of a surprise. At the same time, 68% of average Americans, Midwesterners mostly, said the Japanese had captured global markets because they produced quality products for a good price. Now that's just a realistic judgment from the marketplace. It doesn't have anything to do with stereotypes of Japan. Their cars are better, at a better price. 53% said Japanese corporations were better managed than American corporations. And 51%, as against 23% in the minority, said that the Japanese simply worked harder than Americans. Now, you'll see, if you haven't already, films like \"We Are Driven,\" and you'll listen to other things this week, you can make your own judgments about whether the Japanese work harder. But at least these are real things. They suggest a rationality and a better understanding of the situation by grassroots people in America, in the Midwest especially, than amongst some of our specialists. The second piece of evidence that Professor Dower adduced in his article was simply to take his own little poll. He's an historian, he doesn't do polling. He just walked into a company in San Diego that had recently developed a joint venture with a Japanese firm. And he asked them what they thought about the expression, \"You can't trust the Japanese.\" Engineer A, a Midwesterner in his late thirties said, \"Of course, you can't trust the Japanese. \"Just remember Pearl Harbor.\" Engineer B, a Southerner in his late 30s said, \"Yeah, that's probably because Americans generally \"are suspicious of people who don't talk a lot.\" Engineer C, a Mexico-born engineer in his mid 30s said, \"I hear the same kind of talk all the time \"about the Mexicans. \"You just can't trust them.\" All right, just as an aside, North Korea is a funny place. You meet people you'd never expect to meet, and I happened to meet the Korean real estate agent from Los Angeles wearing a Hawaiian shirt when I was in North Korea, and I befriended him. He turned out to be a very funny fellow, interesting fellow who incidentally loved North Korea for reasons that I'd never quite got clear on. But anyway, I said, \"Oh, do you sell to the large \"Korean community in Los Angeles? \"Is that what you do your real estate with?\" He goes, \"Nah, I don't trust the Koreans, \"I sell only to the Mexicans.\" Now Engineer B also said, when I asked whether you can trust the Japanese, he said, \"Actually, this is a British-owned company \"and we often hear from the British \"that you can't trust Americans, \"especially Southern Californians.\" But Dower cites other evidence that Americans, especially those engaged in business practices or in inviting Japanese groups to come to the United States, still regard the Japanese as an alien and exotic people. And that there are people with whom no serious, or easy personal interchange comes easily. No, there's a certain formality that's almost impossible to break through. Then he goes on to give a number of quotations from a brochure that was handed out to Kansas City businessmen about how to get along with your Japanese counterpart when your Japanese counterpart visits and then shows up in Kansas City. And, there was a list of 15 things you were never supposed to talk about, Pearl Harbor being one of them. But it was all designed to make a very mechanical kind of interaction. And the people who wrote that brochure were themselves people who thought the Japanese were alien and exotic. But anyway, we have a sort of mixed judgment here of some people really looking very openly and with a clear mind at our relationship with East Asia and with Japan and others operating out of a very different and often prejudicial set of attitudes that sees the East as exotic and alien, and the West as un-exotic and familiar. Of course there are people like Art Buchwald, who in one of his columns suggested that in order to restore amicable relations between the U.S. and Japan, a Japanese executive should all be invited to attend Harvard Business School, where they would quickly unlearn everything they knew about manufacturing and productivity, and learn instead to focus on quick profits. And he recommended this as a way to get Japan's trade surplus to disappear quickly. In mid-century, 20th century, Henry Luce, who of course was the founder of Time Magazine and Fortune, and a great supporter of the Nationalist Regime in China, and also one of the earliest American, multinational businessmen, corporate types interested in Asia, published a set of articles in the June 1947 issue of Fortune Magazine. I'm sure you thought I was gonna start talking about Henry Luce's \"American Century\" speech in 1941 or '42, but instead I wanted to pick up an article, a set of articles from a different time. It was precisely when the containment doctrine was being extended in 1947, the Truman Doctrine, the Marshall Plan and all of that. There are a bunch of articles in there, including one that stunned me as a person who worked on Korea and that, there's an article about how, if we just helped the Koreans a little bit with expertise and technology, in no time we'll be exporting textiles and bicycles and all sorts of other light industrial goods, which I thought was quite prescient. But in any case, Luce argued in an editorial introducing this special issue in June 1947, that American destiny lay to the west, not the frontier, but a new frontier in Asia. He thought we should marry our advanced technologies to Asian labor, raw materials and markets. His was, as I said, a prophetic vision of of people who never thought there was anything wrong with exporting, not just American capital, but American technology, American capital goods, the means to make capital goods. He was looking for some sort of a division of labor. What he apparently didn't think about was that over time this would empty out our basic industries, create unemployment, create the rust belt and all the other things you've been hearing about for a decade or so. But I think Henry Luce, like so many other Americans, underestimated the people he was talking about. Henry Luce's relationship with Chiang Kai-Shek and Madame Chaing, and the nationalist regime, I think was, in large measure, a measure of his own ignorance about Asia. In any case, I think there was a gross underestimation there of what would happen, to use some of the terms that I'll come to in a minute, when the East woke up, or when the Koreans and the Taiwanese and the Chinese and all the others started playing our game of industrial development. But in any case, we do know that however prophetic Henry Luce was, for the last 40 years there's been a marriage of American technology, expertise capital with Asian labor, Asian markets, Asian raw material. However prophetic he was, he didn't understand what this would do to the American industrial base. And he didn't, I think, have a measure of the kind of anti-Orientalism, or even what Edward Said has called Orientalism, the lenses by which Americans and Westerners look at Asia would be as persistent, as difficult of enlightenment as laughing so long over time. And that's what I want to get to now. We've all heard the old Kipling tale about East is East and West is West, but it's very hard to find anyone saying that East is not East and West is not West, but that we're all human beings living on the same planet. You hear that of course from idealists and visionaries and so on. But one very interesting statement of that idea is from Friedrich Nietzsche, who was never known for his kind heart and a pleasant outlook, and who was a thoroughly Western man steeped in the Western tradition, as Western a man as one can think of in the late 19th century. But in his essay called \"Schopenhauer As Educator,\" he has a statement that says, \"Orient and Occident \"are chalk-lines drawn before us to fool our timidity.\" What does he mean by this, that \"Orient and Occident are chalk-lines drawn before us to fool our timidity?\" Well, this is on page two of the \"Schopenhauer As Educator\" essay. And the essay begins by asserting that you assert the law, and I'm quoting him now, \"a law that every man or woman is a unique miracle.\" And he said man all the time, he was in one of the few things that Nietzsche wrote about on which he was always wrong, was women. But anyway, he says, \"There was a law that every man \"is a unique miracle. \"Artists know this. \"They dare to show us man, as he is, uniquely himself \"to every last movement of his muscles, \"more that in being thus strictly consistent \"in his uniqueness he is beautiful and worth regarding, \"and in no way tedious.\" In the next paragraph he developed an argument that all human beings, all of us are responsible for ourselves for our own existence. But this is a responsibility we prefer to avoid. \"It takes a lot of courage,\" he says, \"to take a somewhat bold and dangerous line, \"or attack, or approach with our existence \"because after all we might lose it.\" And then he goes on to say, \"Why is it that people cling \"to what one's neighbors say? \"Why are people so parochial? \"Why is something believed fervently in one place, \"and 100 miles away people fervently believe \"the exact opposite?\" And it's in that context, right after he says that, that he says, \"Orients and Occidents are chalk-lines drawn \"before us to fool our timidity.\" And what struck me about this passage is how rare it is even today. And more than that, how rarely it penetrates the kind of axiomatic or knee-jerk or gut level thinking with which we think about the East and the Orient. I mean, if the New York Review of Books, which after all is supposed to be, and its editor thinks it is, the leading intellectual organ in this country, to publish Ian Buruma's racist crap as if it were worth publishing is really something. And so that the New York times like to publish Ian Buruma. So anyway, Nietzsche's point was that it's parochial to bind oneself to views that are no longer binding even a couple of hundred miles away. And he says, \"How can we find ourselves again? \"How can man know himself?\" \"Human beings,\" he says, \"are things dark and veiled.\" And then in the passage that I think is quite beautiful he talks about crossing a bridge and constructing one's own bridge, really, to try and meet other people, to cross the stream of life, and to understand each other. Now, what does this all have to do with Asian American relations? I think a set of images, which as I said, are axiomatic or unthought-out or knee-jerk images, are frozen in people's minds and invoked time and time again, and stand between us and an understanding of our brothers in Asia. They stand between us and an empathy, or what the Germans call verstehen. I don't speak German but I've heard Germans say verstehen. But, something like that. These images, these assumptions, these axiomatic ways of thinking stand between us and an empathy, an understanding of the people we study or the people we think about these days in East Asia. So we need a bridge built, a kind of bridge of relativity, or at least of empathy, and yet, as I say, I think a kind of Orientalism, which renders all of that strange. The other is strange, different, exotic, constantly gets in the way of that bridge and that understanding. I often think that Asia is almost like a Rorschach inkblot. When Americans talk about Asia, they often express so much more about themselves than they do about Asians. And again, it's like Ian Buruma and Teddy White, people, him. I think that one characteristic of this mode of thought is to say that there is some sort of hierarchy in East Asia, where Japan is first. It's the country that does things best. It may be the head demonic power of the 21st century. Its industry is highly developed. And then other peoples come along. Maybe the Chinese or the Koreans. Up until recently, as recently as my graduate school training about 15 years ago, I was told that Japan had succeeded in part because it had developed an ethic of achievement, an orientation toward achievement. And there's a book, really, using Weber's ideas trying to explain Japanese development. But China and Korea had not developed because of the way in which Confucianism militated against the acquisitive instincts. China and Korea, because of their Confucian past simply didn't make good capitalists. Now within the space of 15 years that idea has proven itself to be ridiculous. And one of the perpetrators of that idea, Lucien Pye, has now come out with a new book saying, well, what I really meant was aggressive Confucianism. And you can see a kind of aggressive Confucianism taking hold in East Asia. But in any case, there was a perception of hierarchy in which somehow Japan had been a successful modernizer, not counting World War II, but if you take that as an aberration, a successful modernizer. China had failed and the whole question was how had China failed? And Korea was seen really as a kind of little China, an inviolable failure. And the kinds of explanations given for this often were ones, the Weberian ones, often bowdlerized Weberian ones that I just gave you. So these images which are, in the case of Korea and China, only 10 or 15 years old, these two places as either indolent or exotic. If they're not indolent and exotic, but they go communist then they're real dangerous, but in any case we don't understand them, but somehow we thought we understood the Japanese. Now this particular hierarchy is as old as the first Western encounters with Japan, Korea, and China after the industrial revolution. Now, I think it's fair to say that Japan's industrialization can quickly be characterized as having three phases. The first phase began after the Meiji Restoration in 1868, led by light industry, some armaments. And this textile light industry phase of industrialization lasted roughly into the mid 1930s, by which time Japan had become the most efficient producer of textiles on a world scale. In the mid 1930s, in the middle of the depression and the preparations for war, and indeed, the seizure of Manchuria at the beginning of the Pacific War in 1931, Japan launched its second phase, which was a heavy industrialization phase. That's when the first Toyota, well, the first Datsun, anyway, was produced in 1935, coming into a market that had been dominated by Chevrolets, Fords, and Buicks. And then that phase lasted maybe 20 or 25 years as Japan penetrated the low end of the American automobile market in the 60s. And then that second wave of heavy industry gave way to a third phase that we're in now, which emphasizes high technology, knowledge industries, electronics, communications, and so on. I don't wanna talk about that. What I wanted to talk about is that at each point when Japan slowly, over decades, builds up in one of these industrial phases, and then bursts forth, each phase is then marked by strong protection for developing industries, state protection, adoption of foreign technologies, comparative advantages deriving from cheap labor costs, lateness in world time, maybe superior organization. Then there would be a bursting forth into the world market that always struck everybody as strange, new, and unsettling. I think the Japanese were really the originators of the classic product cycle that Raymond Vernon has been lecturing on and writing about at the Harvard Business School for many decades. A professor named Nakamatsu in the 1930s, wrote a series of articles where he argued for Japan joining a product cycle where you have the rise, the apogee, and the decline of particular industries with the idea that when an industry was in decline like textile Japan, ought to fob it off on someone else. And of course you see them fobbing off their textiles in Korea and Manchuria in the late 30s and early 40s. But anyway, from this he did time series curves of this product cycle and he got a pattern that he thought looked like flying geese. And he said, this product cycle, Japan would master or should master this product cycle and become the leading industrial power in East Asia. So, one can find commonalities between this early work and Raymond Vernon's later work on the product cycle, but what I'm getting at is that far from doing anything unusual, outside the natural order of things, Japan has been following the trajectory laid down by some leading capital ideologues who believe in comparative advantage, who believe in the product cycle. The fact that they do it better is no excuse. Now, as the flying geese have taken off in Japan and as Japan's products have penetrated foreign markets, Japan's history of striving toward advanced status in the world economy really reminds one less of flying geese and more of moths toward a flame. In other words, it's not just the bursting forth that surprises everybody, but it's also the sense of threat and danger that comes with it, which of course resulted in the 1930s and 1940s and in an American and Japanese war as part of World War II. But anyway, three industrialization waves, each one having its period of bursting forth with Japan following a kind of classic product cycle of industrialization. Now, none of this would have occurred to travelers visiting Japan before the Meiji Restoration or before the industrialization of the 1880s. The feudal or semi-feudal Tokugawa Regime was best characterized by the saying of an old samurai to his pupil. And here I'm quoting this old samurai, told his student \"There is such a thing as trade. \"See that you know nothing of it. \"Portray it as the only game in which \"the winner is disgraced.\" I never get a laugh at that. Isn't it interesting? I mean, I have said this about three times to audiences and I never, I think this is one of the most profound and funny statements I've heard in a long time, but people don't laugh. I tried to slow it down this time. \"Trade is the only game in which the winner is disgraced.\" People hear that and they think, what? But it represents a completely different worldview, where taking advantage of someone else in a transaction is considered bad rather than good. What impressed the Europeans at that time was not Japanese efficiency and production, but that unlike China and Korea, it was clean. And the Orient did not equate with the indolent as it seemed to everywhere else to the Europeans. The Edinburgh Review, in 1852 wrote this of the Japanese. \"They are Asiatics, it's true, and therefore deficient \"in that principle of development, \"which is the leading characteristic \"of those ingenious and persevering European races. \"But amidst the Asiatics, the Japanese stand supreme.\" The first American diplomatic representative in Japan, Townsend Harris, said the Japanese looked, quote, \"clean, well-clad, and well-fed.\" Well-clad and well-fed. \"And lacking in either extreme poverty or wealth.\" But with this sort of thinking of Japan as clean or a country that didn't like trade, one can therefore imagine the startled surprise which greeted Japan at defeat of China in 1895, And more importantly, its defeat of Russia in the Russo-Japanese war in 1905. At that time, Westerners were not only accustomed to think in racial terms, but they spoke freely so that one can look back at books at the turn of the century and see, really, very much of the world described in racial terms. So that Japanese success was all the more inexplicable because they were yellow and not white, although they soon became a sort of honorary white. They still are, by the way, in South Africa. At the turn of the century Japan materialized like my Rorschach inkblot, onto which Americans and Europeans projected their own hopes and fears. Missionaries began referring to the untiring industry of the Japanese. \"All night long the sleepless sounds of labor \"are rampant and furious,\" said one of them. \"This habit of ceaseless occupation extends to \"the very highest classes.\" An Englishman, Philip Lyttelton Gell, wrote in 1904, \"I shall turn Japanese, but at least \"they can think and be reticent. \"Witness their organization, their strategy, \"their virile qualities, \"their devotion, and their self-control, \"above all, their national capacity for self-reliance, \"for self-sacrifice, and for silence.\" Silent and sleepless, their work was and awfully well-organized. In one large hall of Tokyo Commercial High School, a number of bays, actually, it's Tokyo Commercial School, I don't know if it was a high school or more, probably a more advanced school, a number of bays or recesses are labeled with the names of the principal mercantile centers of the world. And in each of these a number of students taking the roles respectively, of bankers, importers, exporters, brokers, insurance agents, and shipping agents carry on active simulated international trade in strict accordance with the business usages of the places at which they are supposed to be dealing. This was not the so-called economic animal of the 1980s, but Japan at the turn of the century. Now Westerners, once Japan burst forth as an industrial power, even if only a regional one at that time, they typically explained all this through a combination of Japanese sweating of labor and shameless copying of foreign models. Yet in so doing they simply mimicked British attitudes about another late industrializer, Germany. It's very instructive to look at some of the British books written about Germany in the 1880s and 1890s to see the same kind of things running through those books as through commentary on Japan, or some of our commentary on Japan. And I bring up the German example because obviously the Germans are part of that industrious west, those virile Europeans, and we can't say that any racial category here is interfering. You find someone like Theodore Roosevelt attributing Japanese successes entirely to their virility and their samurai spirit. You find the French a bit less sanguine at the turn of the century, worrying about the competition of yellow labor. A quote went on to say in 1905, one French analyst, quote, \"Japanese labor does not seem to be the cause \"of the depreciation of salaries in the west now, \"but it would be so if Japan, victorious over Russia \"and master of the celestial empire, \"organized Chinese labor in the world market.\" You may think that I'm just quoting racists and dopes, so let me turn to some British socialists, Sidney and Beatrice Webb and others. In 1897, some British socialists argued that Japan, quote, \"has proved to be the most formidable ground \"for the development of the bacillus capitalisticus.\" \"It's not yet 30 years since Japan emerged \"from its grand revolution, but the bacillus capitalisticus \"found there the most desirable conditions for its growth, \"especially plenty of extremely cheap labor.\" Their prediction in 1897 was that in the not distant future, quote, \"the bacillus capitalisticus would be killed by the fagisitus socialisticus. In 1901, the Japan socialist party opened its doors and I think all its members were arrested within hours, at least by daybreak. Now, Beatrice Webb and her husband, Sidney, Fabian socialists, maybe not the most discerning Fabian socialists, went to the Orient at the turn of the century, and then in their diary of that period you can find Beatrice writing in 1904, that Japan was, quote, \"a rising star of human \"self-control and enlightenment.\" She found the Chinese could be, quote, \"a horrid race.\" The Koreans also a horrid race. Sidney found the Chinese and the Koreans \"lowly vertebrates \"who show us what Homo sapiens can become \"if they don't evolve.\" The Japanese, however, and I'm quoting again, \"shame our administrative capacity, \"shame our inventiveness, shame our leadership.\" Be at this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112103#t=0.0,2789.09388"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - AV203782_Northeast_Asia_in_the_Twenty_first_Century_b.mp3"]},"duration":2571.9902,"width":640,"height":40,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/112/104/small/lecture.png?1620062672","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/content/2/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-iastate.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/112/104/original/AV203782_Northeast_Asia_in_the_Twenty_first_Century_b.mp3?1620062672","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":2571.9902,"width":640,"height":40},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV203782_Northeast_Asia_in_the_Twenty_first_Century_b.vtt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Host:\u003c/strong\u003e Bureaucracy of the future socialist state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=6.046,8.963"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another Fabian, Sir Oliver Lodge, wrote in 1907,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=13.65,18.587"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Witness the magnificent spectacle of Japan today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=18.587,22.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The state above the individual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=22.21,24.47"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Common good above personal good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=24.47,27.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sacrifice of self and devotion to the community.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=27.04,29.767"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Some of you may remember that H. G Wells,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=31.15,33.713"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in his book called A Modern Utopia written in 1905,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=35.65,39.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"called the elite, the progressive elite","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=39.4,41.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of that modern utopia, samurai.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=41.1,43.463"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, he didn't go quite so far","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=45.41,47.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as Sidney and Beatrice Webb who went to the Soviet Union","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=47.08,49.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the 1930s and likened Stalin's new communist party","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=49.25,53.07"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"copyrights to the samurai vocation for leadership.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=53.07,56.853"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25153/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, why were all these people across the political 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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104/transcript/25154/annotation/838","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- [Host] Bureaucracy of the future socialist state. Another Fabian, Sir Oliver Lodge, wrote in 1907, \"Witness the magnificent spectacle of Japan today. The state above the individual. Common good above personal good. Sacrifice of self and devotion to the community.\" Some of you may remember that H. G Wells, in his book called A Modern Utopia written in 1905, called the elite, the progressive elite of that modern utopia, samurai. However, he didn't go quite so far as Sidney and Beatrice Webb who went to the Soviet Union in the 1930s and likened Stalin's new communist party copyrights to the samurai vocation for leadership. Now, why were all these people across the political spectrum lauding Japan in the first decade of the 20th century? The answer, I think, is fairly simple. British decline and German and Japanese advance and the Japanese were the British allies after 1902. After two great waves of industrialization, lasting a century and a half, England found itself beset by newly rising industrial powers and an obsolescent industrial base, or increasingly obsolescent one. So a period of fervent soul-searching went on with a watch word being efficiency. Alfred Stead title his 1906 book, Great Japan: A Study of National Efficiency. He thought that the Japanese have lessons from which the British might learn to solve their internal problems. Japan, but especially Germany, could serve England as an example of a country pulling itself up from agriculture to industry in the space in a few decades. In the case of Germany, through hard work, help from the state protectionism, diligence, purloin technology, wicked copying, and an alert progressiveness. So in other words, Germany was for England what Japan is for our industrialists today. A combination of miracles and cheap tricks. The image of Japan, or East Asia, and West can turn on a dime. During World War one, Japan was seen as a kind of scheming jackal. Enjoying a war boom and tripled exports but not participating in the war except to take over, or try to take over, parts of China. But in the 1920s, when it ended a period of economic stagnation and pursued free trade policies, it was lauded for its liberal institutions. By the 1930s, the middle of the 1930s, with the world in depression, protective tariffs everywhere, and Japan embarking on aggression along with it's heavy industrialization. Once again, a problem appeared. For British businessmen in 1936, quote, \"The wiley Jap was determined to stop at nothing and his efforts to bamboozle shoppers in England and was stealing our markets.\" The Japanese workers, according to the British textile businessmen, lived in hubbles and ate rice and worked for a pittance. Now just a few years ago, a European industrialists referred to the Japanese as living in rabbit warrens, a bunch of work of workaholics living in rabbit warrens. In 1935, however, a man named Gunther Stein wrote a question book with the ironic title, ironic for them, called Made in Japan. For him, the country was a model of industrial efficiency that, were it not for the tariff laws and protectionism that divided the world economy in the 1930s, he said Japan, quote, \"might become the largest exporter in the world and in a very short time.\" I think Stein rightly saw heavy industrial, heavy industrialization spurt of the mid 1930s, quote, \"the beginning of a new epoch in the industrialization of the world.\" Japan's problem was not that it was doing well but that it was doing too well and it was upsetting the balance of the world system. And he said, \"this is the real reason why all the other countries complained about Japan.\" With Japan's attack at Pearl Harbor, of course, it's an increasingly tough image of the late 1930s turned into one of pure racism as life magazine said in December, 1941, \"the whole cartoon aspect of the Jap,\" that's just what they said, \"of the Jap changed overnight. Before that sudden Sunday, the Jap was an oily little man, amiable but untrustworthy, amiable but untrustworthy, more funny than dangerous.\" And then suddenly it shifted. Time magazine issue of the same day, December 22nd, 1941 featured Admiral Yamamoto on the cover decked out on the view of a moldering lemon and gave readers instructions on how to tell Japs from China men. By 1943 most of the characteristics that the Fabians had admired in Japan were being used to explain why the Japanese were aggressors. The strong group life, the all powerful state standing above the individual, mindless subordination to authority. I think you all can fill in the blanks of that. However, there still were places where the gentler Japanese virtues were appreciated. In Mussolini's Italy, the Gazzetta del Popolo in Turin argued that in contrast to the flabbiness of the American liberalism, quote, \"one cannot imagine a better antithesis to this liberalism and the exquisite temperance and the sublime abnegation of the Japanese. Dear gentle, elegant, heroic Japanese be welcomed to our side. We will conquer.\" In the post-war era, roughly from 1945 until 1971 or 2, Japan wasn't much of a problem. In fact, most of its successes were lauded by Americans and by scholars of Japan. But in 1971, on VJ Day, Richard Nixon published his new economic policy and caused the so-called Japan shock or shocku in Japan. And from that point onward, that of course involved a 10% tariff on temporary, on imports letting the dollar float and so on, from that point on a sense of unease and foreboding has marked Japanese American interactions and increasingly East Asian American interactions. Now, perhaps in things I can say about Korea to try and bring it into line with Japan, but I think by treating you to a little bit of what Ian Bulmer said will be enough on that. What is most interesting to me, as a scholar, is to see the contrast today in 1988, between the grassroots evidence adduced earlier by dour that I gave to you on what the average American thinks about Japan and an increasing tendency in the Japan field. A field that used to be characterized as having a lot of Japan Apologists. Wall one word, Japan Apologists, people who would all be trying to explain the Japanese instead, faking an increasingly foreboding, crisis ridden sense of what Japan is doing. If you want to see this, you could look at the Journal of Japanese studies in the summer of 1987, where Chalmers Johnson, a scholar who now teaches at UC San Diego, is was well known for a book called MITI, the ministry of trade industry, and the Japanese Miracle said that, Japan has become a supply side monster. Supply side, of course, had to do with the rhetoric of the Reagan administration, but Johnson saw a miracle turn into a monster, from a book published in 1982 to an article published in 1987. I think that's quite disturbing. And it represents the trend among Japan specialists. I'll just close by saying I don't think Japan is doing anything different today than it was doing at the turn of the century. It's more successful. I think the Koreans and the Taiwan government and political economy, several other Asian states, are taking a page from the Japanese book but also a page from the book of late industrial development on a world scale. You have a lot of creation there and you have a lot of destruction around the rest of the world. I would say, not nearly as much destruction in the United States as in the third world. If you wanna to compare, a very precise comparison, you can look back about 10 years ago to what was being said about Brazil and what was being said about South Korea. South Korea was considered an economic miracle, although one with difficulties in the late seventies. Brazil was also seen as an economic miracle. But there was no idea that South Korea would within a few years completely outpaced Brazil as an industrial economy. Instead people were talking about Brazil being the major power of the Southern Cone. And then the debt crisis, the oil crisis and the debt crisis hit. And of course, Brazil and a number of other formerly reasonably successful industrial developing economies, have been in stagnation in a crisis in a kind of 1930s-like depression. So I think that capitalism has its creative and its destructive tendencies and it also distributed success here and failure there. And without an integrated perception of that one can never understand what's going on in East Asia today. This asymmetry in the development, the industrial development of the world. We're used to the asymmetries in the United States but on a world scale the asymmetries are absolutely stunning and astonishing. I think when you compare say Latin America to East Asia. But I don't find it anything surprising. It's the name of the game. Capitalism is a game where most people who best operate in the market succeed. But that means cornering the market or monopolizing parts of the market. That's nothing new. It might even be a description of how most capitalists operate rather than the textbook description of the kind of hidden hand operating in the market. But regardless of what you think about my analysis of that, what I would like you to focus much more attention on is the way in which we think about these problems. I think about them in one way which has to do with comparative industrial development. But above all I try not to think about them in a way that would distinguish us from the Japanese that would use the kind of categories that I quoted extensively to you tonight both from turn of the century publications and also from contemporary publications. I think the most important thing, even for solving our own economic difficulties at home, is building bridges, reaching across if for nothing else to try and understand how the Japanese and the East Asians do it but above all for that empathy and understanding which is essential because we all live on the same planet. Let me stop there and I'll be glad to take any questions you have on what I've said or, or anything you may want to ask me about Korea or my trip to North Korea or anything else. Thank you. Yes\r\n\r\n- [Man] Yeah. Is about a group of people who are specialists, who are taken for granted by their society and those who are not only specialists acknowledge they did in fact come up with the theories, that's why they didn't.\r\n\r\n- [Host] Mhm\r\n\r\n- [Man] And the hook is they weren't lovers, they were, in fact, jealous of the new east. That's what they drew a picture of, it was terrifying the . But they were thought of as the lovers. When they said something was rocky in the new east, it must be really rocky. What does it mean to ?\r\n\r\n- [Host] Well, I think that a book like Said's needs to be written on the East Asian field and perhaps the South Asian and Southeast Asian field. But I don't know those fields. I guess one saving grace is that generally people don't listen to scholars. And then may be that's why the average attitudes are so much closer to the reality. Not the average attitudes but the attitudes of non scholarly, grassroots Americans who may happen to be competing with the Japanese or welcoming a Japanese delegation. But that's not really a very good response to your question. Why is it that people who profess their love for the area they study end up interpreting it in a way that as you've said is monstrous? I perhaps wouldn't use that word but I didn't use it in the case of Chalmers Johnson who talked about a supply side monster. One reason I think is that many people who become area specialists or specialists in comparative studies don't do enough in examining their own assumptions before they embark on that task. They don't do enough to truly understand what it means to be Western in the first place. And I think that it's precisely the reason I read that passage to you from Nietzsche and whatever you think of Nietzsche here's a man who is very serious about trying to understand himself. Sigmund Freud I think said, that nobody in world history ever understood himself better or was likely to than Friedrich Nietzsche. But when a person like that has a thorough understanding of himself, he's in a much better position to understand somebody else who may be different. But secondly, I think there's something here, I'm on very soft ground but I think I've seen it happen time and time again. There's a sense in which when you take all that time to try and master a language, live abroad for a long time, live with people who are ultimately recalcitrant to you in some way you. You have deep down and often un-intuitive a sense that I'm going to possess those people. I want to make them- I'm going to be the interpreter of those people. And they should sit still and not complain about my interpretation. I'm going to tell my back home what makes the Koreans tick or what makes the Vietnamese tick. And I think there's a often a deep, deep down sense that one wants to dominate them at the level of interpretation. And when they resist that interpretation you become very frustrated. Ivan Hall, who is in many ways considered the Dean of Japanese studies in this country, and Roy Andrew Miller, an old, old friend of mine from Seattle, who I have tremendous respect for. He's one of the very few American specialists who was truly fluent in Japanese. That's another secret of the trade. Roy Andrew Miller and and Ivan hall have both been writing articles recently where they make fun of the Japanese and the way that the Japanese say, oh, no foreigner can never truly understand Japan. Or, no foreigner can never truly understand the Japanese language. And of course the Japanese do have certain insular qualities. Not all Japanese, but some do. And one can easily go to Japan and find plenty of books written on the uniqueness of the Japanese language. But it's a distortion to say that they're all like that or that this is a necessary part of their whole culture. And it's especially a distortion when an Ivan Hall, at the end of a long career, writes with such bitterness about the people he's devoted themselves to, to studying. And so at some level, I think there's a sense that I want to study you. I want to dominate you. I will interpret you. And be quiet if you don't like my interpretation. But as I say, I'm on weak ground there. And I'm not a Freudian and I'm just trying to figure out the world. And I don't know how others will think about what I've just said. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Host] Well, that's, that's a very, I'm very glad you asked. As Richard Nixon used to say, because I just had a discussion the other day where where some, where a senior scholar on Japan really said, basically that to the extent that Japan has a democracy it's what we taught them. And now they're biting your hand to feed them there's this. And I think that really draws precisely on what I just said. Here, here is America coming with its democracy and the Japanese implemented under unilateral occupation as a defeated country we write their constitution or a good bit of it. And then we spend another 40 years sort of gesticulating and waving our hands and saying, wait he didn't understand it. He didn't understand what we meant and we shouldn't have such a strong state. We shouldn't have become a supply side monster. I mean, not Lyndon Johnson, Chalmers Johnson uses several of the images that I gave you from the turn of the century, the state above the individual, the solidary life or collective life. And he says a market doesn't operate there, a hidden hand can't operate because the Japanese was always getting in the way of the hidden hand. So we were talking about this in my seminar a couple of days ago. And I pointed out that Louis Hartz, who I think is one of the great interpreters of American democracy in his book, the Liberal Tradition in America. So, here's a European immigrant who was born in Omaha and he grows up in Omaha. And somehow he goes to Harvard and his entire life teaches him that Americans don't understand liberal democracy. That there's a fragment in America. Somehow, four fifths of it has been understood. But if the other fifth that Lewis heart kept looking for why isn't it there? These people don't even seem fully to believe in the enlightenment. I mean, that, that's sort of thing he said, that's a, that's a universal experience. It isn't surprising that the Japanese would interpret democracy in their own way or that they would now be deeply troubled about a democracy that was imposed from, at least partially, from without and a constitution written by foreigners. So, I think Japan is a democracy. I think that it's probably going to evolve into a more Japanese form of democracy than it is right now or that it has been for 40 years. But at any rate, I think this business of presenting our model of democracy implementing an under rocket patient and then later on, as you said worrying about it is precisely this business of getting bitter when people don't fully understand us and the problem that we often don't fully understand them. Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Host] Well, it depends on why one is being disturbed. In other words, if you're unhappy or Americans are unhappy or anybody's unhappy with Japan putting tremendous pressure, on pressures on its workers the kind of pressures that will be detailed in the film tomorrow, why does that happen? Is it because of the nature of the Japanese? Their culture? The role of the state? The way in which unions operate there? What's the reason for it? It seems to me to be much more embedded in the nature of capitalism itself than any specific Japanese reasons. And I, if you misunderstood me to say something else that's not what I intended. I, I'm always struck by this literature on our competition with East Asia that it, it doesn't except at a very often unconscious level that a capitalist success is a success. You see, what's diabolical about the period we're living through is that for the first time capital's success isn't success for us because someone else is doing it. And so that's what I tried to get at with mine was Schumpeter's notion of creation and destruction as an integral part of the capital system. But I can assure you it's, it's a radical thing. It's like, you know, it's like I can only think about, I've seen analogies to this. So I can't say what's in my mind, I was going to say it's like someone breaking wind in church to, to talk about capitalism as a system in this debate. You see, but somehow, if you don't talk about capitalism as a system, you can't understand what's going on. And, and, and yet most of the commentary on Japan doesn't say you've got a ruthless form of capitalism there, which maybe you do. I don't know. That might be one interpretation. It's seems to be at least part of what you're getting at but that's a, that's a contradiction in terms that's an oxymoron to ruthless, to successful pressing your workers and getting, getting productivity out of them on a scale of even we can't shouldn't do that because there's no legitimate, no legitimation that will allow you to say that unless you step outside the assumptions of the capitalist system. But what strikes me is that, that often, instead of doing that, and I think Chalmers Johnson is one of the main people who knows that, instead of doing that he'll start invoking stereotypes about Japanese culture, Japanese politics, or even calling them monsters. Yes. Yamaha\r\n\r\n- [Host] Well, I don't know to answer the question most honestly, but it seems to me that what I said in my talk about this guy at the turn of the century, Alfred Lord said, give me efficiency or or give me death is what he says in that book. We have to be efficient that in the 1980s, which has generally been a constricted decade on a global scale, because one can see it in the decline of world trade and the various crises over the last 15 or 20 years, in the 1980s there's been a widespread perception of decline on a world scale. And therefore people start talking about efficiency and austerity again. And I think that what has happened in the third world and in the socialist world is that sooner or later they have all come to recognize that they are subject to the same law of austerity and efficiency and that what is going on in Soviet union and in China, more so in China I think is a recognition that in order to survive they're going to have to be more efficient and more austere. Only in their context, austerity means moving toward a market allocation of goods and services, instead of the socialist one. One of my students the other day when we were talking about this, I said, you know, the Chinese don't like the iron rice bowl anymore. It's a built-in welfare system. We get a job, whether you work or not, you have a job and a cradle to the grave security they're doing with the iron rice bowl and the interest of efficiency. And the student raises his hand so much smaller than iron rice bowl. And, you know, I was thought of speechless as I am right now in that one, can't answer that without really stepping outside the, the discourse on capitalism that you have to have efficiency, you have to have posterity, but if you want to compete in the world market, it seems that that's what you have to have. And so many of the changes in China and the Soviet union are analogies of changes that have gone on in the United States and elsewhere with the drawing down of spending on social welfare. So on and so forth. I think that there is coming that the Chinese have for in recent years and are today facing a kind of crunch point that which made the point is the one at which the market and the socialist system or the allocation of goods and services according to a plan, as opposed to market mean And the Chinese have just recently pulled in their horns and stepped back from further extensions of the market and further extensions of autonomy to the coastal regions that they're trying to develop. But if I put my money on anything, it would be on Zhao Ziyang and his tendency in China, which is to, maybe with some backing and filling once again, press forward with extensions of the market and press forward with exporting as a means of gaining foreign exchange and building up China in the next 20 or 30 years. So, it seems to me that a part of coastal and Northeast China is going to be integrated into the Northeast Asian region as a kind of peripheral economy. But one that, that, that's unusual in that it has an enormous domestic market. As you know, when Korea began producing consumer durables and exporting them, they had a tiny domestic market. I, I first went to Korea in 1967. One of my great capitalist coups was to take my ten-year-old little plastic paper quarter into Korea and get more for it there 10 years later, then I could back in the United States when I decided I didn't need it. And so I sold it to a local guy who gave me twice what I paid for it in the States. Now, of course, today the situation would be reversed but that's because of the extraordinary way in which the market was so tiny, foreign goods were excluded and there was just nobody there to buy an automobile or, or a TV or a refrigerator. China has about maybe as many as 200 million people with the kind of pent up demand and purchasing power that that Korea has had in the last 15 or so years. And so the Chinese can calibrate the relationship to the world market and the domestic market more easily than the Koreans and the Taiwanese have been able to do. So, probably they'll survive but I'm not sure the world will survive with a flood of Chinese goods at least the capitalist world back to your point. Yes\r\n\r\n- [Host] I'm quite hopeful. Not, not on, on any real evidence, except that, I mean, I should preface that by saying that the relationship between the two Korea's are about as bad as the relationship between any two countries in the world. That's the first thing that ought to be said. All you have to do is pick up the North Korean press to realize how tense the situation is there. So one is happy with small things. And the small changes that have gone forward recently are quite hopeful. The South Korean president, Roh Tae-Woo, has proved himself to be a very subtle politician. And he has also seems to feel that South Korea is in a position of strength. Vis a vis North Korea, which is something very new for South Korea. And he is energetically sending one proposal after another to the North Koreans for talks or exchanges of some sort a six power conference to resolve the problems on the peninsula. And the North Koreans are making their own changes, although much more incrementally. Probably, the most important thing that has happened though is the involvement of external powers, Hungary and South Korea establishing diplomatic relations for the first time, China and the Soviet union starting to trade with South Korea, which is putting pressure on the United States, which I must say, the Reagan administration has dragged its feet unconscionably on the Korean question for eight years and really led as a result of their policies to very high levels of tension in the mid 1980s. But finally, a little bit of reciprocity has begun we're way behind the Chinese and the Russians in terms of what they're doing for South Korea, as opposed to what we're doing for North Korea. But just last week, the state department announced that travel would, would be okay to North Korea that a certain limited trade for develop mainly in medical goods and things like that. And that once again, American diplomats would smile at North Koreans if they saw them at the UN. But I, I think that we're in an election year, most of you probably, One thing, professors should know that they don't, is that one survey to talk about the survey is taken amongst about 50 students listening to a professor lecture and was found out that everybody was tuned in altogether only about 10% of the time. And they had a whole list of things people were thinking about during lecture, sexual fantasies, being the one that built the largest. And many of you were also probably thinking about the election while I was talking. But at any rate, there are these, there are these changes going on and I hope they'll achieve some fruition. I actually lost where I was going with that. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Host] Oh, I think it's happened. And it's been happening for several years although I don't want to blow it out of proportion. There are, of course I tend to know college campuses better than other places where a lot of recent racial incidents that most of the many of the best universities in this country have had very serious racial incidents on some of this is directed at Asians but mostly it's directed at blacks. I don't know how widespread it is. It's very difficult to gauge. I have a friend who his family suffered in the holocaust and he was always telling me to keep my eye on those Nazis in Idaho because, you know, that's the way Hitler started. And I kept telling him that I thought that eight paranoid schizophrenia in Boise, Idaho didn't make a fascist movement and he should stop worrying about them although I understood why he worried about them. So, there's the sense of, you know, putting this in its place, proportionately speaking, there hasn't been a great rise, but incrementally, there, there, you know, this is really bubbling up. I think the main reason I gave this talk tonight was because of, this bubbling up and and my sense that I almost tear my hair out. Sometimes I opened the morning paper and see what people are saying about what Japan is doing or what's wrong with this country in this industrial competition. So, I wouldn't, I mean, to the extent that you're asking me to make a prediction I expect it to get worse, but on a world level what I think is going to happen as an increasing regionalization of the world economy. I think that, that the European integration in 1992, the establishment of a common market throughout Europe, will unquestionably propel similar tendencies. So that you'll probably also get a regional regionalism in East Asia and the Pacific basin. One can look back at the 1930s and say, that's very dangerous but maybe when history doesn't repeat itself, and maybe by wise policies and clear understanding of what's going on we can avoid the kind of racism and militarism and conflict that occurred in the 1930s. I'm not too optimistic about that. And the reason I'm not optimistic is that in Japan, I mean I didn't say a thing about what the Japanese say about Americans, which is also a big problem. Maybe I should have to balance my talk tonight but in any case, I constantly see people thinking with their guts and with their axiomatic sort of visceral assumptions about what's going on in the world today and failing to do a clear analysis of of the nature of industrial capitalism. So yeah, I think the whole burden of my talk tonight is to suggest that that's likely to increase, but I hope it, I certainly hope it doesn't get out of hand. I'll be glad to take a couple more questions until 9:30 if you want. Unless- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Host] Well, it is mentioned from time to time and occasionally Japanese commentators will, will argue that the U S wouldn't have dropped those bombs on, on the Germans let's say or on flights. But I think that, the reason why you don't hear more commentary about that is that the Japanese are not a bunch of militarists, you know still fighting the same war as they did in World War II through different economic means. I think that, that to the extent that those two bombs have any, any silver lining in that terrible cloud it wasn't in creating a widespread pacifist viewpoint amongst Japanese, the Japanese massive, again one doesn't want to exaggerate this, isn't necessarily something that would stand in the way forever of Japan, again, becoming a military power. But it is a fact that every time Japanese right-wingers try and go worship at the shrine of the fallen soldiers or something like that, all of this wells up again and Japan is an anomaly in world history these days. And that it has in many ways, the strongest economy in the world, certainly the second strongest but no commensurable political and military power. And every time the Japanese leadership or the right wing of the liberal democratic party tries to push Japan in that direction, it runs into a lot of flack at home not to mention in Asia, in it's region. So, the one salutary thing about the dropping of those bombs seems to me to have been, to create what what some people quite wrongly and euphemistically call a nuclear allergy. What it really created was a fairly one of the few industrial countries with a really widespread body of pacifist thought. One more question, if there is one. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- [Host] Well, he's made a number of proposals going back to his land of a stock speech a couple of years ago. What I think is the most important thing that's happened in the Soviet Union is, is the replacement of Andre Gromyko and his line on foreign policy. And that line, as far as I can understand it was that Andre Gromyko was like general fighting last war, world war II was the great national tragedy and experience, and tragedy of the Soviet union and the century, I think, and from that came a foreign policy doctrine that what you needed to make sure of was that Germany and Japan would not again be in a position to make war and Andre Gromyko, I think, and his allies were focused on that which made them very brittle in their dealings especially with Japan initially would over a long period of time of Germany. And then that got better. But with Japan, that brittleness extended right into the last couple of years or in, into the period just before Gorbachev took power stupid policies that fought with the Japanese over a couple of little wind swept islands. Stupid policies that alienated wide ranges of the Japanese citizens. They saw that public opinion polls always showed that the Soviet Union and Russia is one country the Japanese liked the least and the world. And I think Gorbachev has fundamentally transformed that policy away from a concern with German and Japanese, revanche. Away from a real tradition in Russian foreign policy. So, he's going to probably be making all sorts of proposals along these lines. And really, I think the Soviet Union wants to be a participant in the Pacific basin economy and it already as a participant in a big way with its Naval forces in the Pacific, but at any rate I think that that change, which ultimately of course led to Gromyko being retired just a few weeks ago was a very, very important change. I might just say one more thing about that because it relates to my talk tonight and the 21st century that I never talked about. I started off my talk by saying that I thought the world was changing very rapidly and the structure of post-war international relations was, was crumbling almost before our eyes. And that's, that's another footnote to that, that that the change from Gromyko to Gorbachev. What has happened, that I think people haven't sufficiently understood, is that you have had a rapid turnaround of Soviet American relations. So that today the kind of conflicts we had to three or four years ago, almost very difficult to conceive but that's likely to deepen. I'm sure the study union's relationship with Western Europe will deepen. And what this does is it clears a lot of underbrush. It clears a lot of obstacles to a serious U.S.-Japan conflict. Now, I've thought for many years that that our greatest problem was in fact the Japanese industrial economy. And I also thought for years that it would be interpreted racially or culturally, but I think what has happened at the level of the structure of international relations is that the very rapid waning of our conflict with the Soviets, which I think, as I said, well, only deepened unless an entirely different leadership comes to power on the Soviet Union, is also going to leave a kind of vacuum. Now, one of the Soviet commentators said you know what we're doing with our new policies we're taking away your enemy and then you won't know what to do with yourself. And this was going to hit the fan to use another obscene analogy in the early part of the next administration when Caspar Weinberger's 3% per annum incremental in built defense budget and all sorts of weapons systems that cost more than the 3% in increment are going to have to be dealt with in this country without a real enemy that justified having those weapons. But I'm really the biggest sort of foreboding that I can see in the future is the vacuum in our old enemy which might with our old enemy which might allow a new enemy to loom up and there's a very serious misunderstandings on both sides of the Japan-U.S. relationship made me think that the 10 years from now I would be very surprised if we were at each other's throats with the Soviet Union. Wouldn't be so surprised if we're really at each other's throats with the Japanese. So anyway, that's what I'll end on. I thank you for your attendance and questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40478/file/112104#t=0.0,2571.9902"}]}]}]}