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Dr. Codrescu has a unique mastery of the written and spoken word. He has many volumes of poetry, essays, stories and autobiographies to his name. His most recent book is available over there, I believe there's one left, and it is entitled Raised by Puppets: Only to Be Killed by Research. I think many of us can appreciate that title. And it is a collection of National Public Radio commentaries. He is currently finishing work on a book about the recent events in Romania entitled The Hole in the Flag, and it will be released in May. He is the recipient of many awards and honors, including the prestigious Pushcart Prize, which he's won twice, once in 1980, and again in 1983. Dr. Codrescu, however, is best known to us through his popular and topical essays which are frequently featured on National Public Radio's, All Things Considered. His essays are a favorite among the members of the committee and the world. And as I can attest that for sharing dinner with Mr. Codrescu, he's as delightful as his essays. So please join me in welcoming tonight's speaker, Dr. Andrei Codrescu.\r\n\r\n- I almost wanted to change my speech once I got here because we had a very interesting dinner with conversations going back and forth, things about Poland and Romania that interests, interested me intensely. And certainly the Romanian situation is one of the more mysterious going on in Eastern Europe right now. And I'm very tempted to not speak of this literary matters which I brought before you, which are not quite that literary. Actually, they're all political disguised as literary in places. But perhaps, if there isn't a room in there, somehow, maybe I'll both deviate from these, and if you feel inclined to interrupt me, do that as well, or ask questions. First, great being here because of the snow 'cause we don't have enough in New Orleans. And I want to dedicate these remarks and this evening in particular to my friend Hans Volker, a poet who died in California last night, a very dear friend. Oh, I don't know what that has to do with anything except that he's a poet, and he brought a lot of pleasure to our little community there when I lived in California, and he was quite a remarkable writer and thinker. And then he died. I mean, it's horrible when anybody dies. But when poet's die, I think, I don't know, moves me more somehow. One dear to me, anyway. So anyway, the title of this talk tonight is what Eastern European writers are going to do for us. And it's a perverse title because us meaning who? I mean us Americans, but I feel very American myself, but I'm also Eastern European writer. I would say what I is going to do for us, maybe there's another title, or what us is going to do for I, you know. One of my tittles that Eastern European writers are going to bring us back the Mississippi River. Not only that, but they are going to bring the Mississippi River back. How are they going to do this? In order to explain this, I am going to begin the two buildings, two writers, two art forms and two views of life. The buildings of the museum from Brukenthal, and the bookstore Kaniga Russkaya, both of them in Sibiu, Transylvania, Romania, which is my birth town. And the writers are Mark Twain and Joseph Stalin. The arts are painting and writing, and the two views of life are the tragic and the comic. The reason the Romanians have two of everything is because if you're Romanian, you have two choices. You can be born in the city or in the country. Okay, if you're born in the city, fine. If you're born in the country, you have two possibilities. You can be the offspring of a peasant with small acre of land, or you could be born to someone in the collective farm. If you're born to someone that land fine. If you're the spawn of the collective farm, you have two possibilities. You can stay in the village and die of hunger or you can join the army. If you die of hunger fine. If you go into the army, you have two possibilities. You can get a desk job or you can get to the front lines. Desk job fine, in front, there are two possibilities. You can get shot in the leg or you can die. If you get shot in the leg, that's fine. If you die, there are two possibilities. You can get your own cross or you can get dumped in a common grave. If you get your own cross, fine. If you go in to a common grave, there are two possibilities. You can take the TV as it is or you can take door number three, I mean. In Romania, people used to play two possibilities. They still do while waiting in line for everything, or for bread or books. And so the object was to never run out of possibilities until you get what you wanted, until you got there. There was never anything you wanted whatsoever, there is never anything you want. And by the time it got there, so you never run out of possibilities. So another thing that Eastern European writers are going to teach us is tremendous optimism that flies in the face of every fact. I said at the beginning that I was going to begin with two have those things I first mentioned, but also in the true spirit of possibility, I'm going to speak a few other things. I mean, very soon this talk will sort of resemble its subject, which is the Mississippi River and obvious of talk flow of you know. Somebody asked me if I had enough words for tonight, I think. One thing I might do is drown you in words. And it is also entirely possible since you are no doubt savvy audience that many of you have drowned already because you're very conscientious and kept up with every single Eastern European book in translation that was published in English between 1958 and 1989. And even the strongest swimmer among you probably could have gone down upon encountering something like the Yawning Heights. Has anyone ever read that book? It's a fabulous book, it's 1500 page allegory by a Soviet writer named Alexander Zinoviev, about life under communism. And Zinoviev, of course, was parodied in the title The Communist Cliche of the Golden Heights of Communism, which every essay ended with, the Golden Heights of Communism. She called them the yawning heights. Of course, on the other hand, in English, you don't name a book the Yawning Heights and make 1500 pages and expect anybody to actually buy it. The result of that would be sort of a drowning narcolepsy, which was actually the state of the Eastern European writer for the past 45 years with the exception of those occasions when he or she was purposefully kept up all night by electrical means have buckets of frozen water. And those times the writers are very awake indeed. But for the most part, they slept, I slept through my entire adolescence. Whenever our eyes fell by mistake because we averted our gaze as much as we could on the front pages of Pravda or its clones, our Romanian Klonos Koskenteya we're out like a light. Just all you have to do is look at it. And I don't know, I'm sure you've seen Pravda as well, but as the newspaper, it has changed somewhat. Now in his pictures, but it used to be the newspaper with more words per square inch than the condensed English Oxford Dictionary. It was just a dense, no advertising, no banter, no news, no news at all. I don't even know what the post Komsomolsk Pravda looks like, I haven't, but nobody can convince me that it can be terribly different even if they report train disasters and nuclear accidents and so forth. A pro style like that of Pravda isn't born in an instant. It took decades to turn language into cement. So I mean a bit of news before the sort of monolith of prose that was forged by Soviet propaganda, no won't do it. They were snoring, people were snoring at their desks. This is the case in my work bent over assembly lines of public meetings, in lines of grocery stores. The narcotic effect of Pravda as well as official speeches came from certain recurring words, productivity, the five year plan strides forward progress, dialectical scores of others. In various combinations, this words of pure morphia. So another thing that Eastern European writers can do for us who live in the electronically charged forever awake global village is how to sleep. At least that's something that Eastern European writers were able to teach. Now that they are about to join the TV globe, they'll forget how to sleep. To get any sleep, they will have to reread their own works from those blissful days. Nostalgia for sleep is already haunting the average individuals who missed their old boredom. That's absolutely true. I have proof of this, which I will later bring before you, and the the part about television. Anyway, I couldn't wait to get out of there. So I felt when I did leave like a little word that was trying to escape from a page of Pravda. So I'll go next to another business which interests me of a lot which is the business of escape which I find of burning urgency for various reasons. People ask me how I escaped. And I think escape is the art of our time. A few years ago, two Romanians escaped in a crawl space made by placing a fake ceiling over the real ceiling of a Vienna bound train. They emerged five days later and are photographed proudly holding the fake ceiling for press photographers. Between them, they'd eaten the small wheel of cheese, a hunk of black bread, two onions and the chicken wing. The two travel folded around each other like hippocratic snakes. One of the last escapes was made by the East German, Heinz Brown who drove across the border in a car with three Soviet officers. The Soviets are characteristically stiff and unfriendly to the German border guards, perhaps a bit more than usual since the mannequins made by Heinz Brown himself. In Romania, people climbed into the smokestacks of ships bound for the West. They promptly died on the engines were fired. There was a slingshot tree on the Romanian Yugoslav boarder. You climbed in until your friends pulled the tree to the ground and they let it go, and released to catapult you about a mile across the minefield into Yugoslavia. Sometimes people made it. If you made it and some people did, you have something to teach Westerners, namely, how to escape. It's harder to escape from the invisible, ubiquitous electronic prison of TV, but it can be done by carefully studying the literary works of good Eastern European writers, each one of which is a manual for escape. What's more, there were successful escapes. At first, people escaped by making dummies to take the places at work, in restaurants, in parks. There was a border guards in Bulgaria who came to work one day, saw himself sitting in his usual tower and went back home to sleep. Eventually, all those countries are going to escape. They will escape here where we are, and are thus going to teach us another great lesson, the limits of our tolerance. Now, there are erotic newspapers for instance, in Eastern Europe. Romania, when I went back there in January, I discovered the great number of new papers and among them was an erotic newspaper called Soluble to Kiss. It was printed on course paper made probably by the editor, and it had pictures of naked people that look like blobs from outer space, you can really couldn't tell. There were also bare breasts on Romanian television during the revolution. They were in the bad prints of a Yugoslav beach movie without subtitles. The bare breast follow gruesome images of women and children murdered by the secret police in Timisoara, and they were there for a reason. They were there to remind people who had seen the painting of Liberty Leading the Masses that Liberty has bare breasts. I'm getting into something very serious here, which is very soon. This may seem frivolous. It is important to notice too, because I think representation of naked people in art are under attack in the United States while they're enjoying this bad pictures. I think another thing that these some European writers can teach us is the heady feeling of overthrowing censorship or going directly to the from narcolepsy to ultra awake aphorism. That's what the why. This business of television which I'll keep going back to again and again has to do with the fact that the Romanian \"revolution\" was, the Romanian \"revolution\" put revolution between quotation marks is very much a creature of television was invented and created on television. The images that we saw were very carefully collaged to give us the pictures that probably will be with us for a long time because there is no such thing as the denial of a picture. When we saw the very famous photograph of a woman and her child killed with a single bullet on our TV screens, it is an image that will never go away despite the fact that we now know that the woman died of alcoholism in the hospital and the child is from somewhere else, and they were collaged together for the purposes of making this powerful thing. I was there on December 28th, which was two days, two days after the Ceaușescu were executed. And I went to the television station and what seemed to me because I wanted so much to believe that I was in the presence, I was in a real revolution. What I did see was what seemed to me a spontaneous, continuous spontaneous broadcasting of various things. And at that point, television had issued a call to the masses to come and tell their stories. And throngs of people are outside of the television station waiting to get involved in stories, and it seemed as if almost everyone did. All they had to do is go in to pass the first, be allowed in by the soldiers and go into a booth and speak to a producer, and be let in to tell the stories. One of the most moving stories that I did hear was by a peasant from Maramureş who spoke very movingly about the plight of his village and what happened to his people, and ended his speech at the very unusual plea for the government to increase the salaries of what he called our brothers, the miners, and the shortened dead workweek. It seemed, totally I mean, he moved me to tears that point. Well, on June 15, six months later, well, immediately, actually, after the speech, the salaries of our brothers, the miners were raised, and the workweek shortened. But on June 15, when Iliescu needed goons to beat up the students in university square, who did he call on? Our brothers, the miners, okay. Since this may be coincidental, but he threw everything under a certain shadow of suspicion for me, and, of course, being there, both times, the first time experiencing nothing but euphoria and believing it, and then the second time, feeling that everything had been a conspiracy and put together for various reason. And very soon after a week in Romania, I started to get this cast of mind, this paranoid cast of mind in which nothing was incidental, everything was somehow connected. This is a, and of course, the fact that Romania being a special case because so much of this was faked. The secret police never went anywhere, they kept listening to everybody. And they listened to us in our hotel room. We picked up electronics in the wall. But what are they listening for? Because everybody was talking, we were all talking about everything. And it wasn't just things were during Ceausescu's era when we couldn't talk about things, and so they had things to listen for. And there were a few relatively select things that you could pick up, namely jokes, I think. What they would listen for was jokes. I think for the past two decades, I mean, the one subversive thing that couldn't be controlled by the vast police apparatus was the cultural jokes at least in Romania. And the policemen listened not only in order to compile files, but to hear the new jokes, which they probably then passed on to their intimate. So there was never an interruption in the transmission of jokes. Do you hear about the Political Joke Contest, the first prize was 100 leu and the second was 1000 leus, and the first price was 15 years. Unlike these other Eastern European countries, until the revolution of December 1989 in Romania, the joke was almost the only form of popular protest. Romanian woman told someone, told a joke scholar actually. The Hungarians, this was in November. The Hungarians make revolutions, the Pols, they make strikes, the Romanians, we make jokes. That wasn't as it turned out true happily, but everybody made jokes but eventually the Romanians also did other things. December was quite an unexpected ending to nearly a half century of grim jokes. It's something worth talking about because one thinks of pre-communist Europe and finds a little to laugh about. For the Jews in IB Singer's novels, for instance, make jokes and they laugh in the face of misery and impending doom. And they love to make jokes, but life itself is no joking matter to them. But in Eastern Europe, by the mid 1960s, life had become a joke. And the quintessential form of truth telling in almost all those countries had become a joke. So in addition to the jokes time honored, parabolic and satirical, and pedagogical functions, it had an existential eschatological dimension that included everything. I mean, the joke had metamorphosed to become total. And the inhabitants of this interior, of the interior of this joke reflected it in myriads of ways. They laughed to death and others laughed and died watching them. Milan Kundera's novel The Joke, follows the joke in one of its more familiar but least disguised guises in one with the most important to us I think in the West. Another thing Eastern European writers teach us, which is simulation of the real. Everything in mid '60s Prey in his book is assimilation. Folkloric ensembles imitate folklore, Communist Party members imitate Western capitalist fashions, young Czech kids imitate what they imagined to be young American kids. Imitation extends to emotional life, where everyone is caught in a world of a simulation of feelings. The lies have become so generalized it is impossible to remember the truth. The truth, of course, has been relativized by earlier imitations, and is now without expression. For Kundera, the real and the real sounding are perfect, are complete and perfect opposites. But unlike some Westerners, he believes that the discerning or merely awake person is capable of telling the difference. Things which resemble each other superficially can be substituted for one another only as long as we sleep. Czechoslovakia as well as Romania slept for decades. And they slept the sleep of those who'd rather not be awake, and they prefer the dreams to the lies that surrounded them. Public life was composed entirely of slogans, textbooks are filled with lies, television was boring, and the pages of the newspapers as I mentioned earlier were sleeping pills. The front page of every book had Ceausescu's picture in it. Everybody woke up in February in Romania when school which had been interrupted by the events in December started again, and all the kids in the country simultaneously tore up the first page in the textbook. It was the noise heard around the world. The revolution is terrible, a friend told me in Sibiu because we haven't slept a wink since began, we watch television all night. Everyone fell asleep prompted nine in the evening when Ceausescu appeared on television to talk for two hours about who knows what. Nobody could remember. The Ceausescu's books filled the shelves of bookstores, nobody read them. One of the most entertaining moments of the Romanian revolution was from students threw all the books out of the windows of the party headquarters and off the shelves of bookstores. On television and the ceremony, the Ceausescus appeared surrounded by fake peasants playing fake folkloric music. The unreality of reality during this era will never again reappear. I remember in fact being in school and writing everything in a dream sort of rushing automatically through my essays toward that inevitable phrase that ended all the discussion, which was the golden heights of communism. Another friend of mine in Romania, the wife of the man who bemoan the peaceful television of Yurov Shelve had already bounded neatly typed doctoral dissertation on the revolution of 1848. \"Now tell me Prey, what am I going to do this? \"I was supposed to defend it in February.\" Her dissertation began as it was proper with a quotation from Elena Ceausescu and was riddled throughout with quotation from the leader himself. You could no more purge this sort of document than you could debug the Intercontinental Hotel in Bucharest. Already some Romanian scholars are beginning to mourn the demise of the oral culture of the political joke. Writing in Luchafaro, Radhika Zaffiro says that the oral joke is a completely different creature from its transcriptions now appearing in Romanian newspapers. She submits the two modalities to an analysis and concludes that the permission to transcribe means the end of an era because beginning of this point orality will partake of the written, and something of the artificiality and formality of written description will enter oral telling and vitiate it. Well, I can do that actually. An adversary culture works best with language attached, jokes that mime, pantomime, sidelong glances, Mokhtar rolling of the eyes, et cetera, are only minor form. Nevertheless, I think I'll take a chance, if only to point out to you the history of Romanian communism which can be taught more efficiently in jokes than any other way. Is it true a reporter asked Ceausescu that your people are freezing from lack of heat. \"Yes,\" Ceausescu replies but nobody died from that. \"Is it true,\" insist a reporter \"that there is no food and everyone is starving?\" \"It is true,\" Ceausescu says but nobody ever died from that. The astonished interviewer throws up his hands, \"Have you tried cyanide?\" Next to Ceausescu himself, his wife Elena was the most hated person in the country. It appears that at long last a citizen obtained the gun and tried to kill the dictator at a mass rally, but he missed. \"How could you possibly miss?\" Asked the colonel in charge of torturing him. \"It was the crowd,\" the man says. \"They kept shoving me this and that way. 'Shoot him, shoot her.'\" This was possibly the last joke told about the Ceausescu family. It was as if even the jocks had run out of anything but the crude fantasy of revenge. The citizen assassin in November had been only a character in a joke became only too real in December when he and his friends pumped a great number of bullets into the tyrants bodies. This deserves a little digression here. It turns out that's another story that we did here during those days, which is that executions clot forms of soldiers actually did the job but not turns out the two men in fact killed the Ceausescus. Two men who are very powerful in Romania today. One named Voiculescu Voican is a former philosophy professor and Colonel of the Secret Police, and the other is another man named Ionel Boyeru, who is among other things, an amateur astrologer in a very strange figure with a long beard who Rasputin like who's seen flashing in and out of the corridors of the parliament. The reason why we never actually saw the videotape of the execution which was explained then as the cameraman in the moments having ran out of film is because they've not killed then by a squad immediately after the mock trial, but by these two people. At 6 a.m. in Romania, the radio stations used to begin the program that, \"Our leader is getting up, so should you.\" At 6:30 there was a second announcement, \"Our leader is doing his calisthenic, so you should too.\" At 7 a.m. there was a third announcement, \"Our leader is now having breakfast, wish him Bon Appetit.\" When I went to Romania in December shortly after the revolution, I found my old aunt and uncle who I didn't even know they're still alive. They're shivering miserably in a cold little apartment in Alba lulia, and they hadn't had any heat in years. It was really a wonder that they're not dead. I mean, I don't know how they kept warm. \"What is the difference between the Hitler and Ceausescu?\" Asked another joker. Hitler turned on the gas. Also known now to us a story that's still developing and is still mysterious was the terrible orphan story. There are 130,000 abandoned children in Romania, many of them have AIDS. And they are the direct result of Ceausescu's draconian birth policies, which demanded five children from every family. Abortions are outlawed, and women are regularly checked at the places of work to ensure that they're not having illegal abortions. And this policy created artificial baby boom in the '70s, which then resulted both in this great number of children in the orphanages, and in the students and the young people who went out in the streets and in fact, toppled the regime. So there was a further irony to that. It was precised this generation that went into the streets and the post Ceausescu. On the train to Bucharest on December 28th, 1989, a woman told me, \"These foreign reporters came to our kids school \"at Christmas and asked them, 'what do you want for Christmas?' \"One by one, all the children except one said, \"our mother is Elena Ceausescu 'and our father is Nicolae Ceausescu, 'and they give us everything, we don't want anything.'\" \"But there was this one ranty kid in the corner crying. 'what do you want for Christmas?' They asked him. \"My mother is Elena Ceausescu \"and my father is Nicolae Ceausescu, \"and I want to be an orphan.\" And he got his wish. On Christmas Day. Well, and the last joke I did here in Romania, and this is a new job, this is definitely post Christmas. In hell, the devil got the big iron pot boiling and ready for the Ceausescu, but Elena kept screaming and making it impossible for the devils to stick her in. \"I can't boil on anything but the gold cauldron,\" she said. I know you had to be there. By that, I mean, the Ceausescu Palace in Bucharest, which is rather extravagant and had gold faucets in toilet, bathtubs. Anyway, but to go back to the beginning now of my story. I assure you I'm rambling only a little bit. I want to talk a little bit about the two buildings that I promised to tell you about the Museum from Brukenthal and Kaniga Russkaya bookstore. A baron from Brukenthal was governor of Transylvania in the 18th century. He was the lover of Maria Teresa, the Austrian Empress who gave him half the Vienna gallery for presents including quite a few very good Flemish paintings. And the art loving baron was also the inventor of the Rack, a torture device invented especially that is the Torture Rack, not the clothes rack. A device invented especially for Horia, the leader of a peasant rebellion. He also improved the Iron Maiden, and was fond of public dismemberment and hangings in the square in front of his house. Two centuries earlier, Vladimir Paler head held impaling in the same square. And only a year before, now, I should say a year and a half, Nico Ceausescu, the princeling heir to the Communist Throne of Romania, who made Sibiu his very own personal fiefdom was torturing political prisoners in the basement of the secret police building facing the same square. And he too was fond of fancy devices such as a thing called the Mobra motorcycle, which is a device for stretching the prisoner and tearing off selected parts of the body. His home from Brukenthal is where my girlfriend Marinella and I went to make love because there was never anyone in there. The best rooms, the best rooms were where they kept so-called socialist realist art. There were big paintings of healthy young workers and best of all, a full scale bronze Lenin arriving at the Finland station on top of a bronze locomotive. Behind this mammoth sculpture was dark and that is where Marinella and I discovered the future. I saw the bronze wrinkles on Lennon's neck contracting and expanding. So, another thing Eastern European writers teach us is that the backside of communist statues can be as educational as the back seats of cars, thereby equating Lenin with Henry Ford. The business about the torture actually is more juxtaposed actually to the scene of our young, young liberation there. He's more elaborate in the book that I've written because some of the discoveries of the methods that the secret police used in Sibiu were extraordinarily inventive and terribly cruel. And a reporter from the New York Times in December asked me, David Binder, who's actually a very well read man, and he's read Romanian literature among other things. He asked me if there is a cruel streak in Romanians. And I didn't think that actually there was although there's so much inventiveness in that area, I would point that way. My theory was that actually despite this sort of business, what there was was an inventiveness that had to do with bodies after they were dead. Dracula impaled his victims after they were killed. And so it was an inventiveness that had to do with projecting a much greater sense of terror than actually they were capable of which is a defense of small people against larger history all around them. But I heard other stories too. The bookstore, Kaniga Russkaya is what I used to go in the summer when I was a kid because it was cold inside and absolutely nobody ever went there. The Red Army marches blood from the turntables and the clerks regarded me suspiciously, they sensed something funny. They thought I'd come to steal cold air, which I later found out was air conditioning and unknown technology to most Romanians. Lined up against the wall or the complete red bound editions of the works of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Gheorghiu-Gej. This is where party officials upon promotion bought to the sets that adorn their unread office walls. But in addition to these giants of communism, the bookstore also had the complete leather bound works of Mark Twain. Now, here's a perfectly intriguing paradox to my adolescent mind. This was the place of the official light of communism was thought they had nobody ever came near it. The existence of an official dream world right alongside the one we lived in most of the time, but it existed only in the shadow of whispers made for a dizzying paradox. The only thing that made sense to me was the cold. I suspect that it takes great reserves of cold to maintain an official reality. I found the same thing in churches when I started frequenting those in some kind of further lesson search. But Mark Twain wasn't probably as my favorite writer. I believe that I read everything he wrote then including his letters from earth which are hard to find in English. Twain was immensely popular everywhere in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union in the 1950s and '60s. This had something to do I believe, with the fact that he's brand transparent humor provided us with a weapon to resist the humorless creepiness of life all around us with it's endless privations and censorships. For myself, and for my adolescence imagination, Twain provided the fuel of an exuberant fantasy. My very favorite book was a Yankee in King Arthur's Court, which held out the hope that was simple conquer in the head we too might wake up in the world different from the one we lived in. A world where we might exercise some control over our own lives. Interestingly enough, Twain's Yankee is a cautionary tale about a man who ends up exercising too much control, and that clued me into that possibility as well. In Romania, for the past quarter of a century, a single family controlled everything. But there is one other aspect of Twain's influence that was carried by every single one of my imaginative contemporaries, and that is the picture he gave us of the Mississippi River. I imagined this mighty river long before I actually laid eyes on it. The Mississippi runs to the creative imaginations of Eastern Europe and Soviet writers via Twain, so that one thing that Eastern European and Soviet writers might bring us back is the unspoiled picture of the Mississippi River the way it was before all the polluting industry poisoned it. Twain's romantic river is a different creature now when other writers have called it cloaca maxima or the central sewer. So we may be witnessing an ecology of the mind here, a purification by literary means a kind of exorcism. There has already been quite a bit of talk in Europe about the fact that the grand idea of \"Europe\" between quotation marks had pretty much disappeared in the West but was kept intact and the East where the normal flow of things had been brutally interrupted by Leninist Stalinist ideology. Wouldn't it be curious if both an unspoiled imaginary Mississippi and an imaginary Europe were to emerge simultaneously from the ruins of communism? Well, yes and no. This business of Eastern Europe's frozen development preserving the spores of European culture is a little more than suspect for a number of reasons. The environmental degradation in those countries is worse than it is in the West, even though the slower industrial development kept them from industrializing everything. I imagine some of the talks you've touched on that business. And the idea of Europe that Eastern Europeans might have preserved in is pre-war Europe, that cauldron of hellish nationalisms, and overblown rhetorics, and that we really do not need. But on the other hand, what the poets and artists of those countries will bring us is a naive belief in freedom of speech the way we should but don't practice it. They should bring us a renewed respect for freedom of speech and a passionate hatred of censorship. Since coming to America in 1966, I have followed both the writings of exiles such as myself and the work of freedom loving Americans who have not been afraid of taking political stance on issues. Exiled writers share with politically active American writers the belief that the writer must be engaged in the world he or she lives in , that it is not enough to scribble obscurely. When I first came to this country, there was a flourishing community of writers and artists who experimented with new forms as well as their own lives. They were out of the academic mainstream, but clearly in the mainstream of an American radical tradition that stretches from Walt Whitman through Mark Twain, to Alan Ginsberg and many younger writers. These are writers who took it for granted that America was big, that what was needed was a total push into the living vibrancy of American life. That one's job as a poet was to be central to the culture one both inhabited and helped to invent. The various anti establishment strains of American writing in the past three decades from the beat poets to the so-called language school writers constitute the genuine poetic culture of America. But something started happening to American writers in the 1970s, a creeping disease of irrelevance and obsolescence aided in large measure but the return of a literary establishment everyone thought that died in 1960. Bit by bit, the appearance of the professor poets, the proliferation of MFA programs in universities, the various journals surviving solely on NEA life support, the acrimonious debates on the relevancy of creative writing, and the ascendance of critical theory over the activist imagination began to take back the areas open by the wide ranging children of Whitman and Kerouac. At a certain point, American writing particularly poetry retreated into literary ghetto inhabited by fearful career-minded opportunists who wrote books not to be read, but to end up as lines in the resume. Literary movements are replaced by resume building subgroups. American life itself began to suffer from a dangerous narcolepsy that needed the awake eyes of passionate writers more than ever. While Ronald Reagan literally hypnotized the country with his presidential performance, our literature went to sleep along with everybody else. Is it any wonder then that someone like Jesse Helms, who doesn't know he's Rembrandt from his velvet Elvis, can strike freely among the snoring literate boasting science telling us what we can and cannot do? Can you imagine Jesse introducing restrictive language into the funding of art 15 years ago. He would have been told in no uncertain terms where to go by a violent storm of public opinion, he would have been rightly accused of being the new Joe McCarthy and he would have been burned in effigy by the Jefferson monument. For Eastern European writers working under the shadows of censorship being central to their culture was also given. We had no choice but to be political. Our slightest works were read and scrutinized for nuances and innuendo we didn't even know was there. It was quite flattering. Not so flattering was the possibility that we might go to jail for it, but the knowledge that it might give us a certain thrill as well as the sense of responsibility. In Romania in the mid '60s, censorship was of the quote soft varieties, Aksyonov called it. One no longer went to prison for four lines of versus Mandelstam did under Stalin, but one could be enjoined from publishing and life could be made more unpleasant than it already was in a myriad little ways. Toward the end of the '70s, the communist bureaucracies began to prefer banishment into exile to other forms of punishment because writers were too dangerous if they remain in the country. The wave of writers exiled from the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe had enormous impact on the American and in general Western literature. Here were poets and novelists who did not despair of the self referentiality of language, who did not worry unduly about the end of art or writing, who did not feel themselves to be post anything with a post, mother in post mortem. They wrote as if the world still mattered, as if the world was still real, and that's if it still had people in it worth paying careful attention to. The books of Solzhenitsyn, Vasily Aksyonov, Milan Kundera, Powell Gomer and Vaclav Havel brought forcefully home the idea that writing matters, that it is indeed intrinsic to our survival as human beings. In the technological societies of the West, writers have been marginalized just as all human beings have by the extraordinary power of the electronic media. Happily unaware of this phenomenon, Eastern European writers did not feel intimidated. Exiled writers came to the west in all flavors. Instructive in this regard is the difference between Vaclav Havel and Milan Kundera. Havel, the president of Czechoslovakia was a courageous dissidents who went to prison many times in defense of his beliefs. He's rather sober minded moral man in the mold of Tolstoy, Gandhi or Martin Luther King. He's not as from prison to his wife Olgar, exemplary of a mind concerned to justice which believes in bettering the world. At the same time, he's a man of his generation who likes John Lennon and what he calls The Ideals of the '60s. John Lennon's death, he tells Olga, moved him more than the death of John Kennedy. Milan Kundera on the other hand, another Czech writer is an ironist, a humanist and the skeptic. One cannot imagine Kundera becoming the president of anything, not even if a literary society. His subtlety would not allow him. He would quickly debunk his own importance, find himself embarrassed by presumption and overthrow himself. Kundera is undoubtedly a much better writer than Havel, but Harvard is undoubtedly a much better public person. Havel and Kundera are both men of the '60s who believe in creative solutions. The black and white world of great power confrontations is that both Havel and Kundera are national heroes in their countries and they both matter. Their differences couldn't be greater, but they're both central to their and our culture. But what happens, to go back to Romania for a minute, what happened immediately after the revolution is that all of a sudden, all these books could be read and everything that was unavailable before could be seen. And in discussions with people there, I said, what happens to all writers now who had created an entire language to speak of our world and the language that as I said before mattered to everyone. They said, \"Well, our literature is now going to get worse, \"because you are going to have to speak directly \"of certain things.\" And yet, when I was there, speech was exploding everywhere, and the euphoria of the revolution had really unlocked people's tongues. Everyone was filled with anecdotes and stories. And there was a great proliferation of print and discussion everywhere that in fact reminded me very much of the mid 1960s in New York, when likewise, I experienced a period of great improvised literature and I could be handed a whole number of pamphlets and paper on the street corner to take home, a full book, possibly meme or magazines, a whole culture that was instantly made and something similar is happening in Romania, and probably in the other Eastern European countries as well, a kind of explosion of the word, and yet it's one that is undoing. Its undoing the highly literary and intelligently, and at times profound language that was devised under bad conditions, under censorship. When people spoke of freedom, especially writers, they envision the kind of younger writers, the kind of instant Jeffersonian democracy that was moving on the revolving stage, it's strobe lights around it. In other words, they had absolutely no idea of our reality at all. And so what they had in mind was an imaginary America that was gleaned from books and movies and illegally smuggled music, and then the America through which floats Mark Twain's forever shiny Mississippi. So what I'm telling you is that the end of the literature of the exile somatic to us has come to those countries and what is going on there is a reinvention of life language in liberty, which may not necessarily and probably won't mean a greater literature. A further irony, and the last one that I'm going to leave hanging in the air here is that in this country, art appears to be the new enemy just as it is being freed in Eastern Europe. And returning to my original question about what these artists and writers are going to bring us, I think one of the things and most seriously so is a renewed sense of enthusiasm for social justice and a keen pleasure in liberty. And, of course, there are other scenarios, and not so optimistic. And I think that's going to happen as well which is an invasion of thrashed culture of the tablet, and TV culture, and sex magazines, and exploitation films, and all the kind of junk food of the mind that we're quite used to ignoring if we can but serious Eastern European writers will begin like serious American writers to doubt their role in a society that's flooded by all this business. And finally, these are very curious times and I'll end it with an anecdote, Alan gets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115566#t=0.0,2762.952"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - 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poem,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=17.127,19.19"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567/transcript/27259/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was broadcast in its entirety on Czech radio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=19.19,21.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567/transcript/27259/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same time that punk can not be 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places.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=32.89,35.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567/transcript/27259/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the thing is pretty 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less","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=41.83,46.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567/transcript/27259/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mark Twain's genteelly corrupt 19th century","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=47.74,50.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567/transcript/27259/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than the nightmarish constructs of William Burroughs,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=50.75,53.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567/transcript/27259/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who's another Missouri writer, but,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=53.45,55.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567/transcript/27259/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one that wasn't available at Migaruska.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=55.49,58.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567/transcript/27259/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I guess between the two of them,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=58.1,59.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567/transcript/27259/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's the vision 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At the same time that punk can not be broadcast in the United States on radio because of FCC rules about dirty words. What does that mean? We don't know. I think we are living between dream and reality at this time, in both places. And the thing is pretty unsettled. And, the world to come in those countries may resemble less Mark Twain's genteelly corrupt 19th century than the nightmarish constructs of William Burroughs, who's another Missouri writer, but, one that wasn't available at Migaruska. But I guess between the two of them, that's the vision of, of Eastern European caution, between Mark Twain and William Burroughs. And so, I mean, I think Eastern European writers will bring both of those things to us in one form or another. Thanks.\r\n\r\n- If the audience doesn't mind staying around a little while, we can ask a few questions, I'm sure. So. Come up and take, come up here.\r\n\r\n- Yeah why not, as I talked for about nine hours, but yeah. About various things that I didn't finish, you know, but. It's better not finish any of these ideas because they're not conclusive in any case. None of them. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I'm interested in your dinner conversation.\r\n\r\n- Well. Well actually, we talked about Poland and Romania, and how different, how different things are. I think what we touched on is how different all these countries are, and how different their stages of various development, and how much in fact you need each other for various reasons. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Even though it's sort of a pseudo-revolution taking place, you know, the revolution was just sort of pseudo. Obviously people have a lot more freedom to say what they think. But some day, what, some day, what they're saying and thinking will get in the way of people and, what do you think will happen when the revolution is gone?\r\n\r\n- Well at this point, I wish there was some magic way to turn words into food. 'Cause then everything would be okay. I mean the economic situation is so terribly desperate that it seems that everybody's talking, but, you know. And of course, the... The government, the National Salvation Front in Romania encourages splintering of everything into endless grouplets, that only should run newspaper, and they all talk their own line, and that serves their purposes. So you do hear a lot of talk, but as to what it means, probably not much. I mean just people, possibly they are just indulging in the pleasure of talking still, because they were quiet for so long. But euphoria has certainly turned into bitterness, and the kind of talk you hear now is angry and bitter. And... I think also, that what's realized, there is something new has happened there which is that they have realized fully, whoever were the big players in this whole story, they've realized fully that the electronic media is a power. And that control of television is... That's where the new language of, the new language of images, manipulated in a certain way, are more powerful than the old ways of speaking, the old print shop, hangups of... I mean for quite a long time, those countries were hung up on the word, they feared the word, because I think, partly because of the beginnings of communism, which were forged in the print shop, in the dark of the print shop and the manifesto, and the conspiratorial discussion groups, words still had a kind of magic power. But things have changed pretty much by, you know, already by the mid-60's. Words didn't matter that much, certain images are more powerful. And I think that's, superstition of the words, they're sort of weaning themselves the powers of the superstition of the words. Although, you know, for anyone which I mean the, not just talking, but distributing those words is very important. And so I mean what lacks really is a way to get them around. The only opposition newspaper of any dignity, and, seriousness, is a newspaper called Romania Libera, and it is being sabotaged. It never gets to the provinces, it has its run cuts. Paper shortages being invoked, so, you know, old-style censorship continues very much in a level as well. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- What can we do as Catholic sisters, I mean it doesn't have to be too, I dunno, what responsibility that there is, that we have, to the people for instance, of our bitter conversation in Romania, at all?\r\n\r\n- Well one thing that I would very much like to see, is people going there, simply going there, and talking to people and meeting with various kinds of groups that needs to learn organizational skills. To learn how to create organizations outside of the State, you know, the so-called civil society that everyone talks about, you know, which was a term used in other countries, but in Romania there was never an opportunity to create a civil society, because the repression was so severe. So I mean, talking to people, that, and the other thing is just simply helping once, you know, finding the, you know, people who hold hope. And in this case I think some of the student groups, rather than the organized political parties, are really much more hopeful than anything else. Helping them get typewriters. Electric typewriters, copiers. Fax machines are pretty useless I think because the phones are so bad, you can't get through. Computers are very difficult to, you know, the software isn't translated, so it's hard for them to learn them, but you know, if anybody goes there, say somewhere, you know, connects and stays for a year, you know, and some sort of foundation grants us say $18,000, and teach 20 people how to, and translate software, and teach them how to use computers, that would be definitely a useful thing. There are all sorts of ways. But I mean, even on the most basic levels, there are people now doing all sorts of things for the children, the orphans, you know, just. But it's hard to, I mean, all these contacts will have to be made with real people, that have not connected with the government. 'Cause the government is nothing but bureaucracy. Although there may be honest people operating in there too, but it's very difficult to find. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Any prospect for a change? Waiting for reform by Iliescu, and his cohorts, and anything like that?\r\n\r\n- Well I think there will be a change, but I'm afraid it will be for the worse, you know. I think there will be overt military dictatorship in Romania before the end of next year.\r\n\r\n- Will that be Iliescu?\r\n\r\n- No, I think Iliescu will be removed and there will somebody like General Stanculescu, or, you know, any of these people. 'Cause nobody knows who really runs things in the country, and, the army has an image problem in Romania. Because they are seen as the heroes of the revolution, because they supposedly came to the side of the people, as it now turns out, they were actually the killers as well, because all the people killed were caught by the army. And, but that's not, they still, they are still seen in this great heroic role, and then, that is the reason why in June, the army didn't come to restore order on the call of the president, but the so-called miners were called in. Who also happened to be soldiers working in the mines, as a matter of fact, but, the army didn't come in, and General Victor Stanculescu, the defense chief, disappeared for six hours on June 14th, he was nowhere to be found. The president of the country couldn't find his defense chief for six hours. We asked him about that actually, interviewed him and he said, \"Well, I was at a Warsaw Pact meeting.\" And said, well he had, it seems like the president could find you, so. But he didn't want to get involved, because he didn't want the army to be seen beating people up, you know. But I think it's coming to a point of, there's such a widespread crisis of confidence in the government, that nobody believes it that the only solution is a military coup. Unless there is another revolution, then you know, it's entirely possible. The problem is complicated, but a nationalist question, because, it's a very, there is a very strong nationalist movement in Romania now, way to the right. Vatra Romaneasca, the Romanian Hearth, and it contains people of all kinds. It's been utterly infiltrated by people from the old regime. A lot of secret police is part of this organization now. They know only one thing, how to be brutal. And this organization doesn't have a large platform, it just has a nationalist platform. We like us, and we don't like them. And, they have four and half million members. Probably that many sympathizers, the largest organization now going. With, you know, some of nationalist government in Hungary as well, you know, we're headed for all kinds of conflicts in that area and they're not pretty, any of them, you know, so. Hope, I don't think. You know, yeah.\r\n\r\n- What, following along that line, what sort of catch manger will Moldavia Bessarabia be?\r\n\r\n- Well that problem is more of a Russian problem, than a Romanian problem, because, you know, so Moldavia wants to rejoin Romania. Yeah. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I've always been told that there are very substantial natural resources in Romania, and which have just gone a long distance, towards paying off the national debt. Why isn't the economic outlook good therefore?\r\n\r\n- There's several possible answers to that. One of them is that it's being sabotaged. By people who wants to... Who want to see the government fail.\r\n\r\n- Can't Romania feed itself?\r\n\r\n- I think the country can, I mean it seems like, it seems like it could. The problems are in the distribution and in the, and in the cumbersome... Yeah, in the distribution systems that are set up. The other thing that I've heard in Romania now when I was there, is that everybody says, \"Well, nobody wants to work anymore.\" Nobody's working, what's that mean? I don't know. I don't know if anybody worked before. They working even less. I don't, it's, it is mysterious, you know, and I mean, it has, there are parts of the country that are fairly well-off, in terms of food anyway. I know that, in my hometown in Transylvania, Sibiu wasn't doing very bad. And that's because there are markets set up by peasants from the surrounding area, and there was food coming in. There's quite a black market, too. But I don't know the problem of how these resources are managed, I think just very badly, just like everything else, because they, many of the major industries are bankrupt. The steel industries took most of the country's resources for quite some time, and it produced inferior steel with the purpose of bumping it on the American market at the time when the American market was depressed. So by the time they finally got it together to make steel, we had recovered, and besides, they didn't have the ships to transport it, they invested in that too, so, you know. This was mid-70's business. And I mean these things now exist, but they're useless. But I don't know, I haven't, you know, read a good economic analysis of why the country's in such bad shape, because it would seem like it shouldn't be. Because you're right, it has no foreign debt. On the other hand, the United States government hasn't renewed most favorite nation status to Romania, which I understand, and approve of. In fact. But, you know, does seem somewhat hypocritical, since Ceausescu himself had that particular privilege, during his tenure, so. Big mess. I don't know, I really don't know the answer to your question, I just haven't read, someone should be, you know, offering a little more than theory. At least some facts and figures, but, I haven't seen them.\r\n\r\n- We have one more question.\r\n\r\n- Yes.\r\n\r\n- Is there anyone among the, in the opposition, other than the nationalists, who could come up through another revolution, to be a leader, such as Bratslavav?\r\n\r\n- Well the intellectuals and the students are, you know, to my eyes, the only progressive political force in the country right now. They look toward Europe, they are... they have some very good ideas. But it's a student movement that resembles in a way the 60's here. And it's, it's not very well organized. And, the intellectuals have had to make a leap of the imagination to go into the opposition, rather than be dissidents, and that's turning out to be difficult. And there is something else too, which is that there has been a constant, a long-standing policy throughout Romanian history to divide the intellectuals from the working people, and from the peasants. And so there is suspicion and mistrust on all sides. And so I mean one thing that the students and the intellectuals will have to figure out is how to talk to workers and to peasants, and they don't know how. Yeah, so I don't, I think that until that sort of dialogue is established, I don't know what can be done.\r\n\r\n- One more.\r\n\r\n- Sure, one more.\r\n\r\n- This one changes the subject completely. I would like you to, if you can, just weave three points together that you made, and kind of, you sort of got me thinking. You sort of threatened to drown us with words, and in fact--\r\n\r\n- And I didn't?\r\n\r\n- To me at least, what you did was maybe, whet my thirst a little bit, rather than drown me.\r\n\r\n- Oh, okay.\r\n\r\n- You spoke of what I feel is sort of a desert of laconic mass media, and its effect on words in this country. And you mentioned the unfortunate death of a poet, Brendan, or his last name, which I see mainly as metaphoric of, the lines, perhaps, of poetry. You know, where do you, do you see any possibility of a revival, of real American poetry, in the near future? What would it take?\r\n\r\n- Well my friends, death is really pretty literal, you know. Yeah, I mean I would hope yes, but... I don't know, you know. I mean, I have, I've had a lot of worry about this business, it's called the disappearance of the outside and in precisely trying to figure out if, if the outside that I knew, you know, the one outside that I knew, in the mid-60's. And it was really outside, because it was outside established institutions. And that's what made it possible to have, I think, that point, and art that was at least potentially as interesting as the life around us, although I think the art was smaller than the life around us. It wasn't as interesting. Although we tried to reach for, whether that will occur again in this century, and I have a feeling that it won't. I think that we have been, we are now inside the growing interior, and one that is more and, that American life has been institutionalized, and we are being institutionalized, more and more. And there is almost no one outside, and if there was, they couldn't survive. It's almost impossible to find anyone now who's either not inside the university or a prison, or in the army, or inside, in any case. In a real and, literally, the outside is diminishing. I mean if you look at it ecologically as well, from, the wilderness is becoming smaller. So the outside is something that, you know, the possibility of it. And I'm not even sure that what I experienced in the mid-60's was a true outside, or whether it was a kind of flash before it all went away. I don't know, I mean I was looking, I always look at popular culture for cues, of that business, because, and to the language of the street, for that too, because that's vital language, and that's what language is in a true creative state. Because language in the street defines itself in opposition to the status quo, and opposition to institutional language. And we had a fairly vital number of languages around for a while in the mid-60's and perhaps beginning in the 50's with jazz talk and bop, and then, you know, beat talk, and, you know, street languages of various kinds, there was an actual culture being made out there. I don't see that happening now, you know, what I see is coming back from television, a kind of language that's very attenuated, and very... And if there is language going on in the street, you need to get co-opted very quickly, and it gets turned into advertising very fast. So.\r\n\r\n- How about rap?\r\n\r\n- Well I think rap is, you know, is a terrific street poetry, you know, so far as it has messages that appeal directly to the kids that it, you know. And to no one else, it's probably, you know, rap and graffiti, you know, and there you have, you know, something, but the connection is missing to to high culture, or to culture, you know, in a larger sense, which it seemed to me that, in mid-60's we had, we'd taken the entire province of the culture for our domain, you know, and using the language to speak at all levels, so. And maybe just more narrowly forced into some kind of, I mean, I don't see any writers, for instance, taking up rap, you know, poets.\r\n\r\n- Thank you again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/42936/file/115567#t=0.0,1286.424"}]}]}]}