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He's the director of the Immigration and Naturalization Service whose jurisdiction involves the 13 western counties in Texas, with the office at El Paso, Texas, and the entire state of New Mexico. So let's have a nice, good hand for Al Guigni.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much. I appreciate the opportunity of coming down here to speak to you this morning or this afternoon. I'm going to be talking about sanctuary and I have a prepared text. When I'm done, what I'd like would be to answer any of the questions that you might have regarding what I've discussed or any other matters you may want to bring up. Sanctuary and alien rights. The rights of aliens in this country, specifically the rights of aliens, are to be found in the laws passed by Congress. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 with its various amendments, and the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, comprise the major laws designed to address aliens, those individuals who are neither citizens nor nationals of the United States. While sanctuary is a word appearing frequently in the press in connection with aliens who are citizens of El Salvador or Guatemala, it's not a term to be found within the pages of the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act. Sanctuary is an emotional term, one dating back to the Middle Ages, used to describe safety to be afforded an individual who applied for sanctuary from the King's soldiers while the individuals seeking refuge remained within the confines of a church. Sanctuary in the last five years has become a modern term, one associated with a particular movement in this country to provide aid, shelter, and transportation to citizens of Guatemala and other Central American countries for the purpose of smuggling those aliens illegally into the United States in contravention of this nation's immigration laws. Sanctuary is not a legal term, and therefore does not provide any alien with the specific rights under the laws of the United States. If an alien is to be afforded the right to lawfully enter and remain in the United States, that alien must first be the beneficiary of the laws passed by Congress. Since 1875, there has been almost continuous attention on the part of Congress to problems of immigration and the admission of certain defined classes of aliens. The United States Supreme Court, without exception, sustain the full and unbridged power of Congress to make the rules for the admission of aliens, and in that context, Supreme Court Justice Frankfurter ably articulated in the 1954 decision in Galvan v. Press that policies pertaining to the entry of aliens and their right to remain here are peculiarly concerned with the political conduct of government, that the formulation of these policies is entrusted exclusively to Congress, and that this nation's highest court must therefore under our constitutional system, recognize Congressional power in dealing with aliens. The sanctuary movement has sought to purposely smuggle illegal aliens across our international borders. Those involved in that movement have publicized their illegal activities while seeking to excuse or explain away any liability under federal law which would subject them to criminal sanctions. However, no amount of wishing, no quantity of dreams, no measure of good thoughts can excuse the known and intentional violation of the laws of the United States. If an individual who is not a citizen or national of this country leaves his homeland and attempts to make a new life for himself in the United States without the proper immigration documents or without having been properly inspected and admitted to this country, then that person is subject to being detained by immigration officers for the purpose of having his deportability adjudicated at a formal hearing. Those individuals who conspire to transport or aid illegal aliens in making them unlawful entry into the United States knowingly subject themselves to criminal prosecution. The sanctuary movement began in the spring of 1982, when several churches in Tucson, Los Angeles, Berkeley, and Washington, D.C. declared publicly that they would provide shelter and assistance to central American aliens. Since that date, there have been arrests by immigration officials for the illegal transporting of undocumented aliens with convictions issuing from federal juries in Tucson, Arizona, Houston, Texas and Brownsville, Texas. The communities of Berkeley, California, Cambridge and Brookline, Massachusetts, Madison, Wisconsin, Tacoma Park, Maryland, St. Paul and Duluth, Minnesota, Ithaca, New York City, and Olympia, Washington in addition to 247 or so churches and synagogues have declared themselves to be sanctuaries. The state of New Mexico on the 28th day of March, 1986 was proclaimed a sanctuary by Governor Tony Anaya. However that proclamation was rescinded by the new state governor in January, 1987. Members of the sanctuary movement admit that they are aware that their efforts in aiding illegal aliens to cross the international borders of the United States without either the proper immigration documents or requisite inspection by immigration officers are against the law. However, they excuse their actions by likening the reference to those of the abolitionists who gave refuge to runaway slaves or to the Christians who aided the Jews to escape the Gestapo. Finally, the members of the movement justify their smuggling activities on the premise that the aliens transported from El Salvador and Guatemala to the United States and secretly moved across this country Their rationale, the law of asylum is being incorrectly applied and therefore the aliens are lawfully in the United States. To understand the rights of aliens, it's first necessary to understand what laws pertain to refugees and the granting of asylum. Through the years, various laws have been enacted by Congress, which authorizes the Attorney General of the United States to withhold deportation of an otherwise deportable alien if that alien can establish that he would be subject to persecution upon deportation from this country. In 1950, section 20 of the Immigration Act of February 5, 1917 was amended so as to provide a statutory bar to the deportation of an alien to any country in which there was a finding by the Attorney General that such alien would be subjected to physical persecution. With the passage of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, section 243 authorized the withholding of deportation of any alien within the United States to any country in which there was a determination that such alien would be subjected to physical persecution, and withholding of deportation would be effective for such period of time deemed necessary by the Attorney General. 13 years later in 1965, Congress amended section 243 to provide for the withholding of deportation to a country when the alien was found by the Attorney General to have either his life or freedom threatened in that country on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. In 1968, the United States, while not a signatory to the 1951 United Nations convention related to the status of refugees, acceded to the United Nations protocol of that convention held 17 years earlier. The protocol bound partners to comply with substantive provisions of articles two through 34 of the United Nations convention. Article 1.2 of the protocol defined refugee in pertinent part as an individual who only through a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion who is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable for owing to such fear is unwilling to avail himself of the protection avowed. In addition to the definition of a refugee, the United Nations convention provided in article 33.1 that no contracting state shall expel or return a refugee in any manner whatsoever to the frontiers of territories where his life or freedom would be threatened on account of his race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion. Article 34 stated that contracting states shall as far as possible facilitate the assimilation and naturalization of refugees. At the time the United States acceded to the United Nations Protocol in 1968, some 17 years after the United Nations convention, the president of the United States and the Senate believed that the UN protocol was largely consistent with existing United States law, specifically section 243 of the Immigration Act. The remarks of Senators Mansfield and Proxmire that the United States already met the standards of the protocol are evidence of the widespread belief that any difference between the protocol and existing statutory law in the United States could be easily reconciled by the Attorney General in the administration of the immigration laws and that there was therefore no need to modify the existing statutory language. 12 years later, the Refugee Act of 1980 amended the language of section 243 so that it now basically conformed to the language of article 33 of the United Nations protocol, but that amendment, just like the protocol, omitted any specific reference to how great the possibility of persecution must exist to qualify an alien for withholding of deportation under section 243 . The language in that section literally provides for withholding of deportation only if the alien's life or freedom would be threatened in the country to which he would be departed. Section 243 does not require withholding of deportation if the alien might or could be subject to persecution. In fact, the section omits any reference to the term refugee and addresses the entitlement to withholding of deportation to any alien within the United States who meets the standards set forth by statute. The United States Supreme Court on June 5th, 1984, provided guidance in understanding the standard of proof necessary to be met by an alien seeking to benefit from withholding of deportation in the case of INS v. Stevic. That decision set forth a requirement that an application for withholding of deportation under, under section 243 be supported by evidence which established that it is more likely than not that the alien would be subject to persecution on one of the specified grounds. The Supreme Court pointed out that the legislative history of the immigration laws showed that Congress did not intend to alter the standard of proof by the passage of the Refugee Act of 1980, and that the clear probability of persecution standard was applicable to section 243 , withholding of deportation claims. The principal motivation for the enactment of the Refugee Act of 1980 was the desire on the part of Congress to revise and regularize the procedures governing the admission of refugees into this country so as to avoid the piecemeal approach to admission of refugees previously existing under sections 203 and 212 of the Immigration Act. The Refugee Act of 1980 adopted and expanded upon the protocol definition of refugee and intended that the definition be construed consistently with the protocol, but the mere fact that an individual came within the definition of refugee did not guarantee resettlement in the United States. The House Judiciary Committee was of the opinion that the new definition of refugee as contained in the 1980 Refugee Act did not create a new, a new and expanded means of entry into the United States, but instead was for the purpose of regularizing and formalizing the policies and practices that had already been followed. Congress, Congress distinguished between the discretionary grants of refugee admission of asylum and the entitlement of an alien to a withholding of deportation if he met the standard of evidence required. Congress never intended that refugee status alone require the Attorney General to withhold deportation of an otherwise deportable alien, but rather Congress intended that the burden was upon the alien to show why evidence that establishes a clear probability that it is more likely than not that the alien would be subject to persecution on one of the specified grounds before such an alien would be granted withholding of deportation. Section 243 is the means by which the United States complies with the articles in the UN protocol, the agreement not to return an alien to a country where he would be subject to loss of his life or freedom on the prescribed grounds. Subsequent to the passage of the Refugee Act of 1980, the Immigration and Nationality Act provided a statutory right on behalf of the alien to petition the government of the United States for asylum. Section 208 directed the Attorney General to establish a procedure for a alien physically present in the United States or at a land border or a port of entry, irrespective of the alien status, to apply for asylum. The establishment of a procedure in which an alien may apply for asylum does not require that this government automatically grant asylum to all applicants. The protocol of the United Nations is silent on the right of an individual to be granted asylum. The obligation of the United States under article 33 is to refrain from returning a refugee to a territory where his life or freedom would be threatened in the country to which he would be deported. Article 31 of the protocol further provides that only necessary restrictions may be placed on the movements of refugees unlawfully in the country until such time as they regularize their status or gain admission into another country. The Attorney General has discretionary authority to grant asylum to an alien if such alien is determined to be a refugee, but refugee status is only available to those individuals who have been persecuted or who have a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, as set forth in section 101 42 of the Immigration Act. Generally under customary international law, individuals are not considered to have a right to be granted political asylum. The European convention for the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms signed in Rome in November four, 1950 does not guarantee an alien the right to enter or to reside in a particular country or the right not to be expelled from a particular country. Under the European convention, a country may deport a parent, even though it will result in the defacto deportation of minor children who are citizens by birth of the deporting country. The final act of the Helsinki conference set forth September one, 1975 in Department of State bulletin has been utilized to allow a family being able to leave a particular country rather as rights for people to enter a specific country. Refugees, asylum, persecution are terms to be found within the immigration laws of this country, passed by the elected members of Congress, laws that set forth certain rights for aliens, including an administrative process that allows the alien to be represented by an attorney, one that provides for advisory opinions from the State Department, as well as a procedure for judicial review. If an alien is illegally in the United States, and if he is unable to establish that he is subject to the loss of his life or freedom by evidence that shows a clear probability that he will be so persecuted because of his race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, then his deportation will not be withheld. This action is fully consistent with the United Nations protocol, as well as the Refugee Act of 1980. The sanctuary leaders would substitute their opinion in place of this nation's laws. They would offer emotion in place of reason. They would replace administrative due process with wishful thinking. If someone is charged with breaking the laws of this country, the issue of guilt or innocence should not depend upon his religious conviction, but rather an analysis of whether there is evidence to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that the laws of the United States were violated. The sanctuary movement does not provide legal rights to aliens, nor does it operate within the boundaries of federal law. The rights of aliens to seek asylum and the withholding of deportation are to be found within those statutes passed by Congress and not by participating in a knowing violation of federal law. In 1985, the United States government allowed into this country 5,000, 570,000 immigrants, 6,000, 60,000 refugees, and 6,500 asylees. The immigration law does provide avenues for relief for these individuals seeking asylum. It's the only thing that's available to them. I thank you very much, and now respond to any questions you might have.\r\n\r\n- Could you please talk briefly about the Margaret Randall case? Can you explain the laws that you invoked in the decision to order her out of the country and What are the laws to make that order?\r\n\r\n- Okay, the case is on appeal. She, she was ordered deported by an immigration judge and the deportation is under appeal. Miss Randall applied for an adjustment of status, which I denied.\r\n\r\n- Can you explain why the reason was.\r\n\r\n- The, the reason was that the adjudicator who had the case did not feel that she should be permitted to remain in this country. She came here as a visitor and was in overstay.\r\n\r\n- But there was no reason for a warrant.\r\n\r\n- Well, yes there was. She, she was, she came here as a visitor for a specific period of time. She did not depart, so she was out of status. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- Sir, it seems to me, and you correct me if it, what you're basically saying if the visitor's seeking, seeking asylum here as a refugee or an alien, if their politics concur with Edwin Meese's, they're fairly safe. If they're not, they better get ready to go back. Well, that's what it seems to me.\r\n\r\n- Well, figures from June 197, June 1982 to June 1985, indicate that asylum requests were granted from a person from Iran, Nicaragua, Poland, Ethiopia, Afghanistan, El Salvador, Uganda, Czechoslovakia. You're right. It depends upon what does the person submit for their claim for asylum. Each case is adjudicated individually, and then a decision as to whether or not it will be granted is made. We seek an advisory opinion from the State Department, and based upon all of the evidence, then make an individual determination.\r\n\r\n- What evident must an alien present to substantiate the persecution or the member of their family assassinated?\r\n\r\n- Okay, it depends on, on what, what involvement has the alien had. There are persons that have presented newspaper articles showing their involvement, their membership in certain groups. So if they can prove this, then in fact, if we believe that their life is threatened, then they are not sent back. Now, even, even when a person, his request for asylum is denied, he then will go into the withholding of his deportation. Now, as far as the El Salvadorians are concerned, in 1982, 14,000 El Salvadorians were apprehended by the immigration service, 5,566 were deported. From 1982 through 1985 for El Salvador only, 66,000 El Salvadorians were apprehended. 18,000 were deported. The others are either appealing their deportation, if in fact that's what took place, but they are still here in the United States.\r\n\r\n- If the members of their family have been assassinated, is that grounds for?\r\n\r\n- Well, I mean, it could be.\r\n\r\n- Does it depend on who they're assassinated by?\r\n\r\n- Well, well, the thing is, in order to get asylum, it has to be an action that's committed by the government.\r\n\r\n- What about the Farabundos?\r\n\r\n- If they're acting in concert with the government, yeah, but then they're gonna have to come up and show us the proof that they have this.\r\n\r\n- Which is impossible, right.\r\n\r\n- Well, 569 El Salvadorians, now this is from a district directors only, have in fact had their request approved. So no, it is not impossible. It's difficult.\r\n\r\n- Just speaking personally, what kind of evidence comes across your desk?\r\n\r\n- All right. All right, let me give you a case on someone from Lebanon. The individual came in and he made his claim that he and his family would be persecuted if they went back. We sent a notice to him indicating to him that we were going to deny his request because he made a claim. They then submitted more information showing newspaper articles, and finally came forward and said that his brother was a very high ranking official of the government had been, which had been deposed, but he didn't tell us this because he was afraid of what we might do, because he was not, he didn't have any trust in the U.S. government, but eventually by getting the information, yes, he was granted. Now that's just one case.\r\n\r\n- What's the status of the normal visitor. When they come over here, they have visitors status. How many visitors do we normally get a year? And how many the law can't find for its cases to the visitor stay?\r\n\r\n- Okay. About 400, 400 million people a year enter the United States that they're inspected. Now, how many of them come as visitors? I don't know, somewhere in the neighborhood of about four million because the people from Mexico come back and forth every day down in El Paso. They're coming as visitors. They have permission to remain for 72 hours within a 25 mile limit. They go back, they, they're back and forth. So I can't really give you any number.\r\n\r\n- Can you appeal if you're denied, in particular, Randall's visitor status? Doesn't the law allow an appeal because an extension\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- Does the law allow the extension?\r\n\r\n- They, they, they would prevent if, if a person who comes as a visitor can apply for and be granted an extension.\r\n\r\n- How long?\r\n\r\n- Depends on what they're asking for, and what's the reason. Normally you don't give, a visitor comes here for a period of a one year, and then you can give up to six month extensions.\r\n\r\n- What kind of, say an alien comes every year and has been threatened or been attacked, but can't produce physical evidence of that, is that not considered valid?\r\n\r\n- You wanna repeat that one? I'm.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, if an alien has, because of political views perhaps, been threatened or physically attacked in his country, and he wants to seek asylum in this country, he doesn't have any physical evidence of it, he broke a rib or something, how can he prove to Immigration Services that is in danger in his country?\r\n\r\n- Okay. Let, let me, let me respond by another example. A, an individ, an individual who is, I think he's a Nicaraguan citizen, but he's a legal, permanent resident of Mexico. During the latest elections, he was picked up by the Mexican police and taken to Mexico City where he was interrogated and released. After two or three weeks, he decided that his life was in danger, so he left Mexico and applied for asylum in the United States, based upon the fact that he had been picked up at his place of business and taken to Mexico City. All right, this is all, this is the claim that he made. There were numerous newspaper articles documenting the fact that he had been arrested by the Mexican police.\r\n\r\n- What if you're not fortunate enough to have newspaper articles written about you?\r\n\r\n- Well, let me finish. His claim was denied.\r\n\r\n- On what basis?\r\n\r\n- On the basis that he had violated the laws of Mexico by becoming involved in their local elections. They had taken him, they had questioned him, and they had released it. There was no further action that was taken against the gentleman. A number, three or four Mexican officials also came over claiming asylum that they were from the PANista party, and they were concerned because there had been some riots and things along because the political unrest that they have there, they made claim. They got to Ojinaga, which is right on the border and continued to drive 400 miles in Mexico and then made a claim for asylum. We did not adjudicate the claim because they withdrew it and went back home. So it depends on what kind of a case are you making. What are you saying? The fact that you walk in and say, I'm afraid to return to my country. Now, now one of the problems that we have, particularly when we're dealing with the South and Central Americans is, we have individuals who have left their home country. They've spent time then in Mexico for a year, and then they have entered the United States to make a claim for asylum. Now, Mexico is also a signatory to the act. If they have made no claim there, you don't have to come to the United States to make the claim. So a person who doesn't immediately make a claim when they arrive weakens, weakens whatever claim they may have, so. Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- Generally speaking, from what you've described so far, you have a substantial amount of discretion.\r\n\r\n- Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- In making these decisions. So it seems to me that the numbers of certain immigrants based upon the nature of beauty, because you could have made a grant discretion without going to appeal.\r\n\r\n- Yes you can.\r\n\r\n- So it's pretty much up to you as a INS bureaucrat to make these decisions.\r\n\r\n- Well, it would appear so, however, when a gentleman at the time of his or a woman at the time of the apprehension says, I came here to get a job. I came here to get a job, who later, after being in my detention camp, then says, I fear for my life and does not have the documentary proof, it becomes very difficult to approve someone like that.\r\n\r\n- We know some immigrants of El Salvador, Guatemala. pretty much as soon as they get here and contact Immigration and say, I'm afraid to go back and you know how sometimes, it's obvious your suspicion. Since you do that then, that is an acceptable response, or is it when you believe that all he has is not an article but simply, I am afraid to go back to my country. My husband's been killed.\r\n\r\n- Okay, if, if you make application, all right, the law provides that you don't have to come into the United States, that you can make application at a port of entry. If you are making this claim immediately upon presenting, or if you present yourself, then yeah, there's a little more substance that an individual can believe. However, conversely, this is an article dated July 16th, 1986, written by, it's in the Brownsville Herald, by Chris Hedges, Dallas Morning News. Salvadorians deported as illegal aliens from the United States back to El Salvador do not become victims of political violence, according to surveys by the Geneva-based Intergovernmental Committee on Migration. Some volunteer agencies alleged that deportees, upon their return to El Salvador, are imprisoned or killed. We followed the deportees for the first three months after their return because of these allegations, said Italo Arriola, director of the committee's mission in El Salvador. If one is to judge on the basis of our contacts with the people who have returned, one can assume that there is no risk. Now it goes on that the fact is the individual has got to provide us with the proof that there is a real fear, not, not that.\r\n\r\n- Well, let me ask you. I'm from Los Angeles and, well, I grew up with lots of Chicanos and Mexicans, and I don't remember meeting anybody from El Salvador the whole time I been there, and now tens of thousands of Salvadorians in Los Angeles. I'm sure they're all looking for work to support themselves, but they're there. We know about the war that's going on. There's also Nicaraguans there. We certainly know about the war going on there because we're paying for it. It's easy to get stunned on some superficial level. We know that people are being killed. How come it's undocumented here?\r\n\r\n- Well, when a person, when a person makes an application, they should make it to me, or if apprehended, that they can then make it to an immigration judge who's separate and distinct from me. When we get the request for the asylum, we then review it. We then go to the State Department for an advisory opinion in terms of what kind of activity is there in the village from which this person came and then, once you get that we have to decide, are we gonna grant it or not? You see, I have had personally people who we have arrested and apprehended and put into my detention camp in El Paso, Texas, who we have deported a year earlier. So it's not an easy task, but the thing is, the concern that we have is that the only people who can grant asylum is Immigration.\r\n\r\n- But you ask the Department of State for?\r\n\r\n- We ask them for an advisory opinion, but, but the point that I'm making is that I have had one or two persons who have described what they consider incidents and if those are the type of people that would have come before us or before me, we would have granted them asylum, but I'm not seeing those people. I'm seeing the people who are coming here who are saying the war has caused economic conditions so that there are no jobs, so I came here to work. Now, one of the things that's gonna be interesting is that the new Immigration Reform Act now provides amnesty for all aliens who were in this country illegally as of January one, '82. So if they'd been here and can document their residence, they will be eligible for a temporary, permanent legal status. That, that applies to everybody. Pardon?\r\n\r\n- Yes, sir.\r\n\r\n- I have a two point question. The first point, as you said, that many people that are coming here are looking for jobs specifically. Is there much difference between those people coming here for jobs and the ancestors that we have who came from Europe, Northern Eastern, Southern, and Western, who came to this country for jobs because there were none, and the second part of the question is, if it is up to the Immigration Naturalization Service to determine whether or not these people have valid claims of being in danger if they go back to the countries, should not be that organization be able to have research and be involved in these countries so they confirm it on their own without having to go to a separate government organization to get information and advice, counseling?\r\n\r\n- Okay. First part of your question, there were no immigration laws when there was a mass migration. However, the people of this country at that time in the 1800s decided that they were gonna put certain restrictions on whom should come to this country. 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They came in with a preference system in the early twenties and with minor changes, it's still there. In terms of asylum and sanctuary, no changes. The only changes that they made in 1986, had to do with what do we do with the untold millions of illegal aliens who are living in an underground society. Who have been here for extended periods of time? How do we deal with them? The answer was legalization and amnesty. The second point that they dealt with was, employer sanctions. Why are people coming? Because of jobs. How're we going to solve it? We're going to penalize the employer. The things that you're talking about, Congress did not want to address. In uh, the discussion stage, there was uh talk of increasing the numbers that went to Canada and to Mexico, and those numbers not used by one country would automatically roll over to the other. It's not there. But the fact is, as I pointed out, over 600,000 people entered the United States, legally in 1985 as immigrants to stay here. 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District directors and chief patrol agents are generally persons who have come up through the ranks or from other agencies within the government. And yet we're civil servants. Yes?\r\n\r\n- When you're dealing with issues like sanctuary, how do you deal with the ongoing church thing people who say their religious dictates override legal disparities going back to the Middle Ages.\r\n\r\n- No, the immigration service doesn't have any. Any policy where we would go into churches, specifically.\r\n\r\n- So\r\n\r\n- The state of the state of New Mexico, Governor Toney Anaya came out and said, \"New Mexico is a sanctuary state\". All right. So we went up and met with him and talked to him and asked just exactly what is it that you perceive? So he came out with some guidelines and the guidelines said that the state officials were only to cooperate with immigration in accordance with law. That's all we expected them to do. So many of the sanctuary, are a symbolic thing that we don't get involved in.\r\n\r\n- Yes, sir. Up until this point, been talking a lot about being on immigrated here. However, in one case, Margaret Mandell, an immigration official who made a decision about leaving said quote, Time Magazine why do you to go far beyond your disagreement with, or criticism of US foreign policy? Can you explain why, first of all, you will always look at the writings of everyone who comes in or is that your objective? And secondly why if we have freedom of speech in this country being in the first amendment constitutional guarantees apply, they don't apply to somebody who is trying to get permission to live here.\r\n\r\n- Well, again, because of the fact that the case is on appeal, I'm going to decline to answer your question.\r\n\r\n- Um, yes. Most of the discussion we've heard this afternoon is dealing with the burden of proof in terms of And in many cases, how much of the results oppression by governmental forces or para-military forces or whatever you get. And in the sanctuary trial, Judge Carol forbid the use of words like impression he's spoken in the court of proceedings. And how can this be justified? How, when is official word used or not on the specific case and how can, how can you justify denying a someone who's trying to gain from using those they're often to the situation\r\n\r\n- I can't respond to your question. The judge made the decision. I don't know what his rationale as to why I was.\r\n\r\n- I don't know. Yes ma'am\r\n\r\n- Are the quotas ordinarily filled for let's say the individuals from yours and from and from some of the other countries?\r\n\r\n- Uh no, you don't have you don't have immigration from the European countries Canada, Canada, which is 20,000 a year. It never, never fails more than 15. All right. But the way the law is written, those can't be transferred to a country that needs them. And those countries that need them are far exceeding the POTUS that they have now. Yes ma'am?\r\n\r\n- Is it not part of the uh pressure placed on the people immigrant due to the fact that if United States accepts some of the accepts part of the reality of the situation by our government that the US is supporting a government in El Salvador that bring pressure and impression on citizens. Does that not\r\n\r\n- If it is, it's not at my level. Now it may be in that when we get country reports and we are seeking other opinions, possibly, but it is not something, again, the proof that we ask is what, what the Adrian and his representatives are bringing to us.\r\n\r\n- I did not hear it. Were those immigrants from Europe also uh expected to give proof in the same way that Central Americans are now? Or is that a totally different..\r\n\r\n- No. Now, now. Okay. The, the numbers that I gave you are persons who are not citizens. Now, a person, a us citizen who is petitioning for his life, like in world war two, they don't come under the quota. Okay? So that you would have had a large number that would have been coming back from Europe, which far exceeded the quota, but they are separate from, they're not under the preference.\r\n\r\n- I was wondering about those who are not part of\r\n\r\n- Yes ma'am\r\n\r\n- I wanted to know, I am from the secret that there are 400,000 Jews could leave the soviet union that would like to immigrate in the soviet union. If uh the Cuban government decided tomorrow that 400,000 Jews could leave the soviet union and I know there's people in this country that these people should be allowed to leave the soviet union, would they be subject if they had 400,000 decided they wanted to come to the United States, would they be subject to the same rules? Would they be classified as a people who could achieve a salary status? Or would they be given the same quota that are given to all the other countries? How is that handled in the past?\r\n\r\n- A person, the person coming in a perfect example now assign these are not under the preference quota system. Okay. During the spring and summer of the eighties, we had the Mariel Boatlift and about 180,000 Cubans showed up on our shores. In key West Florida. The president then announced that he was accepting all of these people as refugees. He went to the Congress and they accepted them. We're still adjudicated in some of these persons, there are about 3000 of the Cubans who are excludable. And even though they are still here in the United States, they have all been ordered, do partial. But because we do not have relations with the Cuban government, they're in the Atlanta penitentiary and have been for an extended period of time, there have been court cases in terms of what do you do to these people that you can't send them back to the country and no other country has stepped forward to accept them.\r\n\r\n- Yes ma'am.\r\n\r\n- I know there are reasons for us to accept immigrants for humanitarian reasons and all this, I also know that there are reasons why, and this is part of the what are our obligations, you know full obligations Are they then eligible for our welfare.. I don't understand.\r\n\r\n- A person who immigrates to the United States. This is a person who was in a foreign country and wants to come to the United States to live and to work. They fit under the preference system, the quota system, if in fact their number comes up and they come here. One of the things that they have to do is they have to be self-supporting that if they go on welfare roles, then we would revoke the privilege that they have of staying here. Now excluded are persons who do not appear to be capable of holding a job. However, if relatives and friends sign an affidavit of support for him, then it's possible that person may be let in.\r\n\r\n- If I give a ride to an illegal alien, who's already in the country, am I guilty of violating the law?\r\n\r\n- If you knowingly committed this, you have to know that the person isn't an alien. Okay? If you profess that, you do not know it then no it's knowingly. Did you know the alien in fact was an illegal alien.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, you have to be caught in the act?\r\n\r\n- Yeah\r\n\r\n- Yeah Well if you wanna make a confession, good for you, but I'm not gonna arrest you.\r\n\r\n- Do you have enough staff? While we are going over this? Technically the person comes in and he is supposed to be self supporting his job and then he is laid off and goes on welfare\r\n\r\n- W w we're just moving into an area to cover. We've never been able to check. Okay. Unless somebody actually reported to us, we wouldn't have known. We've got what we call project save it's systematic alien verification. So we're going to the different state agencies pointing out that if you have aliens who are applying for benefits, if you would call our office, we now, hopefully we'll be able to tell you what they will be entitled to receive. Now one of the things that's interesting is that because of the budget crunch, many state institutions now are very, very concerned about who is entitled to receive these benefits. Now, the big issues that we've got coming up for us is the new immigration reform act, that uh, we'd been holding town meetings in El Paso. We're holding them at high schools, asking the public to come out. The first one we got about 350, And then just last week we held a second one trying to explain the rights. And the surprising part from our point of view is that at the last session, we had to do it in Spanish because the people couldn't understand what we were saying in English. So we conducted the entire session in Spanish and had at least 250 illegal aliens asking us questions, such as, I am married to a legal, permanent resident. She is on welfare. Does that make me ineligible? Uh, others, I came here as a student in 1980. Did not continue my education and went to work. So we're, we're coming in with a new era. So you have one side of the house says there are 2 million illegal aliens in the U S the other side says there's 14 million illegals. We don't really know how many we have, but these persons have a period of one year, beginning, may five to make application, to legalize their status. Then they will have lost this opportunity. Well, if there are no further questions, I thank you very much for allowing me to come here. It's been a pleasure. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46862/file/120259#t=0.0,1220.568"}]}]}]}