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He's currently a professor at the University of Nacional in Bogota. And Mauricio is also the author of two books concerning the Colombian labor movement. \"Here No One Is A Stranger\" and \"Neither Slaves Nor Serfs.\" Tonight Mauricio will be speaking with us on the subject of human rights in Colombia. Though much has been made in the news recently about the drug wars and their effect on the Colombian and American politics, Mauricio tonight will be focusing mainly on the internal conflicts and the effects on the Colombian people. He will touch upon the internal situation in Colombia as it is affected by the American drug policy. And he will also deal with other social factors which play a great role in the daily lives and the human rights of Colombian citizens. Tonight for Mauricio's presence we have to thank the philosophy and religious studies club, the philosophy department, the history department, the anthropology department, the Latin American studies committee and the Latin American solidary committee on lectures, which asked me to announce that tomorrow at 06:30 in room 37 here in the Memorial Union they will be having a meeting. And most of all, we need to thank Fred Evans who's done quite a lot of work to get Mauricio here for us and Mauricio for showing up. So thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- Okay. First of all I would like to thank the lectures committee, the different organizations that sponsor this talk, and my friend Professor Fred Evans, whose interest on human rights in Colombia brought me here. I'm gonna talk about human rights in Colombia for 40 minutes or something like that. And then we open up the discussion for questions of the sort. The title of the talk tries to show that beyond the so-called drug war in Colombia and in some other Andean countries, there are other wars that sometimes the news don't cover. And especially there is a serious problem of human rights violations that develop or are done by different forces, the state, the army but also the leftist guerrillas and recently the drug barons. This human rights violations sometimes are not taken into consideration in the news. So that's the main focus of my talk today. The talk is divided in three main parts. First, social forces and kind of historical background of the present situation, second human rights violations and finally the present situation and the future. Let's start with the first part. Social forces. First of all, Colombia is located in the North of South America. Colombia has a size as big as Texas and New Mexico together. The population is close to 30 million inhabitants. Colombia is the third country in population in Latin America after Brazil and Mexico. 65% of the population live in Cuban Heights and because of the geographical situation, the mountains and the different regions, the country has regions almost absolutely isolated in which the state up to the present is not a real force there. We're gonna see the situation later on. Colombia's economy was not until last year in a bad shape in comparison with other Latin American countries. The gross national product grew at the rate of 5% yearly during the '80s. Last year was lower. The New York Times of last Sunday show that Colombia and Chile was the only big Latin American countries with a positive growth of the per capita gross domestic product. Colombia being bigger than Chile. The external debt is close to 17 billion but is less than the external debt of Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, even Venezuela and Peru. The international monetary fund has considered Colombia as a good country. We are good guys because we pay the debt, the interest so we have nothing but relationship with the monetary fund. However, since last year, signs of economic decline have appear in Colombia. The decrease of the GNP, increasing inflation and unemployment. But the paradoxical situation in Colombia is that the present violence is not exactly the result of a collapse of the economy. On the contrary, we had more or less a good economic growth but our violence respond basically to political problems. Let's see this aspect more in deep. First, Colombia's political system. Colombia is one of the oldest democracies in Latin America. During this century, just one successful military coup took place in Colombia. But if one looks closely to that democracy, one realizes that it's so close, so tight, so narrow that most political scientists called Colombia a classical case of oligarchical democracy. In deed our political system allows really the existence of just two traditional parties. The liberals and the conservatives. In theory opposition can exist, but in practice this does not happen for different reasons. On the one hand opposition was officially banned up to recently. On the other hand, the leaders of the opposition are the main target of the human rights violations as we are gonna see later. Therefore oligarchical democracy is the main characteristic of Colombia. Colombia's political system and a weak legal opposition. In a sense, we are, as most of the Latin American countries, we have a very weak civil society. The ruling parties, the liberals and the conservatives have enjoy the system for so long that they don't really care about the people. People continue voting for them because there are no alternatives and because the strength of the clientelist system. As someone said recently in Colombia, the worst is the goals of the country is it's ruling classes. In the past, the ruling classes used to fight among them dividing the people, but when the level violence reach high levels, they reach an agreement. So our political systems have changed from coalition of those political parties to open struggle and then coalition, and then struggle. That's the history at least of this century. The State in Colombia is weak because of the traditional manipulation of the ruling classes and of the traditional political parties. It lacks legitimacy to impose the rule of law. So we have strong ruling classes but weak legal system. Strong armed forces but we weaker state. Impunity in Colombia is almost the law. And this puts a serious threat to any attempt to correct human rights abuses for example. This is true even for the present government. The president Virgilio Barco was elected in '86 and his period is gonna finish this year. This is true for this present government despite its efforts to welcome the situation of violence to stop the human rights abuses and to defeat the drug barons. Let's see the other actors, the social actors in the Colombian situation. The military. Traditionally in Colombia, the military had been manipulated by the political parties and has not played the interventionist role that they play in other Latin American countries. In Colombia as I said before, we just have one military coup in the seat in the '50s. And it's different from what happened in the South of Latin America. But it doesn't mean that the military are weak. On the contrary, in a sense in Colombia, the military almost rule without facing the criticism that the Southern countries, in Latin America face. The army for example, is strongly anticommunist and the is one of the biggest in Latin America. The army has fought for more than three decades with the leftist guerrillas. And I can say that, although there are no proofs that the army is directly planning, for example, the human rights violations especially the massacres and the political assassinations that I'm gonna talk later. Nobody in Colombia thinks that the army is completely innocent. I mean, the army is in a sense involved, but it's not there. They lead their sector. As for example, you can say of the Argentinian military or even Pinochet in Chile. This is not what happened in Colombia. Besides, its anticommunist commitment of the army produces approaches between the military and any rightist group, even if this rightist group has links with the drug barons as we are gonna see later. Another social actor, the church, the Catholic Church. In the past the Catholic Church was one of the glue actors of Colombia's everyday life. Now, I think that it's power has diminished but it still is a very powerful institution in Colombia. Traditionally, the Catholic Church in Colombia was one of the most conservative in Latin America. But in recent times, some priests and some Catholic layman and woman have done a turn strongly to the left. The hierarchy is still concerned about it but it also wants to play a more positive role in the finishing the violence in Colombia. But since the church has been so close to the traditional parties to the ruling classes, it doesn't have a strong legitimacy to play an immediate role. Because I mean people don't trust at least the hierarchy of the church. Another actor, the opposition. Within an oligarchical democracy, there is not enough room for legal opposition. And that's what happened in Colombia. The lower classes usually prefer to express the demands through the traditional parties because independent organization hardly survive in Colombia. For example, the UP Union Patriotica, a recent group formed by leftists has suffered the assassination of close to 1000 of its leaders. And some of them, all the other leaders had to fly from the country to go into exile. So I mean, the government say we allow opposition, but in reality is very difficult to have a illegal opposition in Colombia. Besides the leftist parties in Colombia are very weak in part of due to this situation. But due to internal problems. The communist party, for example the oldest and the most stable of the leftist parties usually doesn't get more than 5% of the total vote. So the leftist Colombia is not more than 10% in terms of elections. Within this context, it is possible to understand the existence of the leftist guerrillas in Colombia. Indeed, the Colombian guerrillas are the oldest in Latin America. They start the fight, or the fight before even Fidel was in a Sierra Maestra and before the Sandinistas began their fight. This fact shows both their limitations and their strengths. Limitation because if a guerrilla movement after thirty or more year cannot win a war, I mean what possibility does it have to win the war in the future? So that's the limitation, but at the same time if a guerrilla movement survives for more than 30 years it means that it has a kind of popular support and there's some degree of popular support. And that's true. From the beginning of the '80s, there have been peace talks in Colombia between the different governments. The last government by Belisario Betancur and this government Virgilio Barco. They have been talking with some guerrillas groups but up to the moment, just one group, the famous M-19 the famous group that kidnapped diplomats in 1980 and that took by assault the Palace of Justice in 1985. This is the only group that has accepted negotiation and now is on the way to transform itself in a political party as it happened in Venezuela in the '60s. But on the other hand it means that the government has reached an agreement with just 15 or 20% of the guerrilla. Most of the guerrilla moment is still fight. The strongest very close to the communist party insist in peace talks and even they have declared unilateral truces but there is no agreement in the short run. And the other groups I am not say the names because some initials are hard to keep in mind. But the other groups are still fighting and they don't want to set said any political dial. So in a sense, there is a war a political war in Colombia. And sometimes I mean it doesn't have the coverage by the news as the problem of the drug war has. In general, one can say that in Colombia the opposition is weaker as we said before and the only kind of opposition that can survive at least under the present circumstances is this kind of the guerrilla movement. Talking in the sense of political parties. Finally, two recent actors that create a lot of problems in Colombia. First, the drug traffickers or the drug barons. Colombia is as other Latin American countries have accepted in the past classes that come from a very poor background and that are going up emerging to a better economic condition. In the past we accepted people coming from this. I mean, we, the political system, the social system accepted these poor people going upward. Even more, the presence of the so-called informal economy, street sellers, informal jobs, illegal activities and so on has been one of the main characteristics of the Colombian economy since last century. In the '70s, the trade with marijuana into the US opened up some roots for the newest traffic of cocaine as everybody knows for the news. The later the cocaine trade produces incredible profits. For example, three of the Colombian drug barons were considered among the 50 richest all of the world. They really make a lot of money and in a country as underdeveloped as Colombia is, they can buy almost everything they want. They can, for example, buy protection from the police. You have to think that a policeman just makes 100 per month. $100 per month is his salary. So if you offer him 200, 500, that's enough to buy this policeman. The drug barons can buy judges, politicians, almost everybody in Colombia. And of course, in some other places like here, for example. I mean here in the US. They are informal businessman, very successful. I mean, cocaine is one of the most successful agricultural crop in international market. And they want to be accepted in the Colombian society. They do not have a specific project of society. I mean, I don't see the drug barons as a new political or new class with a specific project of society beyond the common rules of a market economy. They defend the capitalist society, especially against possible threats from the left. And that's where the things began to take a very strange path. They drug barons also have invested money in formal sectors of the economy especially they have bought Lands. Also at the beginning they had certain agreements with the leftist guerrillas that rule in the isolated regions as I said, at the beginning. In those regions, some peasants were cultivating coca leaves. Although the beginning, they have some agreements with the guerrilla, now, disagreements are broken in a general way. On the contrary what happened now is that the drug barons are buying lands and they buy lands in places where the leftist guerrilla have a strong, I mean strong position so the lands are very cheap. And as soon as they buy the land they decided to clean up. They literally said that they have to clean up this region. It means to get rid of the leftist guerrilla, the labor union, the labor union leaders, the peasant leaders. So that's the starting point of this huge human rights violations that we are gonna see later. The old land owners supported the efforts of the drug barons. Yeah, and that's amazing. And some of these old land owners were or are still part of the army. When a general for example, of the army retires, he goes and buy a land and stay there just carrel tracing or something like that. So that's why you began to see very exchanged connections between old traditional land owners, drug barons and certain sectors of the military. The army as I said before, if not, I mean I cannot say that it's directly tied to the drug barons, but it's clear that the army permit the existence of the private armies of the drug barons which I'm gonna talk now. And in a sense that's the close relationship that they have. Finally, before going to the last let's say social force in the present violence in Colombia, I will say that this theory developed but the US diplomats about the existence of close ties between the drug barons and the guerrilla. They call that narcoguerrilla. For me, is not true now. Maybe in the past, there were some ties because of the regions that they person lived, they were guerrillas around there. And sometimes the international trade of weapons armies, sometimes they were close. But now there are no signs of this relationship. On the contrary, they are fighting. That's another war. Sometimes, I mean, here, the news just present like the war between the drug barons and the government. But they don't see that the drug barons are killing leftist, especially leftist guerrillas and union leaders and peasant leaders. So in a sense, this theory about narcoguerrilla is just to create confusion among the American people and in a sense to justify a possible direct intervention in Colombia, in internal affairs as I'm gonna say later. Finally, the death squads. In Colombia in the past, we had sort of death squads but these new groups have appeared recently in the '80s. I mean, the government talks about the existence of 200, or something like that, death squads. They are not under a central organization. They are not centralized. They are not unified under a coordination of central organization. But they share common characteristics. Death squads appear as such in the '80. Some of them were created by the army as peasants' self defense groups against the guerrillas. Most now come from the private armies of the drug barons with the support of the old land owners and sometimes of the army. This is quite, if it was possible to hide, for example, to have schools for these death squads and to hire British Australian American or even Israel mercenaries to train those death squads. In a sense what happened is the drug barons give the money and the army and the old landowners, the legitimacy to those mercenaries. Death squads have grown very rapidly in recent years. The first of this death squads appear in 1981. And now, as I said before we have 200 or something like that. Although there are not enough elements to say that the whole army is involved in the anticommunist crusade, at least certain members of the army has been accused of human rights abuses, but no one is under arrest now, why? Because the problem is that when the army is accused, some of the military are accused, they say that these are just communist propaganda, and they closed files among them. And they say, \"No investigation, \"we have our military justice. \"They are our military judges \"are gonna take care of these problems.\" And in most of the cases, the military just absorbed the, so now we don't have any military involved in death squads under arrest. And besides we have very few people formally accused of being part of these death squads. But every day you see in the news that people are being killed in Colombia. So that's why I said before that impunity is more or less the law in Colombia. The government is so afraid of breaking with the military that usually it support what they say. Usually, sometimes they government doesn't support but in general. Okay, the training comes as I said before, I mean the military had control of these regions but these special places in which the death squads were being trained were untouched by the military. And on the other hand, leftist labor leaders and peasant leaders were killed or missing as I'm gonna talk later. So that's the part of the problem. Finally, I would say that there is another actor which is not Colombia that is playing an important role is the US government. The US government is playing certain role in the Colombia situation. Like for example, putting pressure on our government to repress, not just the drug traffickers, but in general, all illegal activities. And I mean, from this theory of narcoguerrilla, from the leftist to the drug barons, all of them are enemies. This pressure doesn't allow the government to develop an independent plan to take care of this drug problem. On the other hand, we have military advisors, American military advisors, DEA agents and recently, as you heard from the news, battleships and even there is a talk about brothers and other stuff. And other problem is the economic situation. Do you know, for example, that one of the biggest exports from Colombia to the US and to Europe is flowers carnations that sometimes there are problems with the flowers because the people from the consuming offices, stop the flowers from Colombia and after two or three days, these flowers are, I mean, spoiled completely. Another problem is the problem of coffee. The coffee international park was broken last year and it had preempted very serious problem in Colombia because some peasants are now facing a decreasing price in coffee. So in that situation, some of them can say \"Why do we have to cultivate flowers or coffee, \"if we have coca leaves which are more profitable \"than those crops that have problems \"in the American market.\" So in that sense, I think that the US is playing kind of an important role in the Colombian situation. That's the picture of the social actors that I wanted to show you as the first part of this talk. Maybe later in the discussion, we can go in deep with some of these actors. Second, human rights abuses and violations. What this picture shows is a very complex and even cultic situation. Different actors fighting for power in different wars that the amazing thing is that Colombians do not see as wars. I mean, I'm not saying that Colombians that we are used to war, but in a sense people don't feel that we are in a war. Despite the fact that every day there are like 15 political assassinations in Colombia. People say that happens in Chile or that happened in Argentina, but not in Colombia. That's one thing that it's important to stress. This war is not new unfortunately. And the other aspect is a very inhuman war. Of course, no war can be called a human war, but in the case of Colombia as it happens, civilians have been killed, people are missing or just dead. So, I mean, it's something like what is happening in Peru. And I'm not saying that it's the same with this group China Path and the whole repression from the state but more or less, we are getting closer to this example. All social actors violated human rights. The state, although, as I said before is not officially the head of the repression program. The state does not do what it has to do to stop for example, the increasing violence in Colombia. Up to the late '70s, human rights abuses and repression in Colombia was done throughout more or less traditional ways. Both sides for example, the army and the guerrilla killing each other and the army was torturing people, the guerrillas were kidnapping people but what it's different now in the '80s is that for example political prisoners are less, but it doesn't mean that their repression is improving. I mean, is not going worse or something like that. No, now we don't have a lot of political prisoners but we have missing people. Desaparesidas and or just people that are found dead after five or six days. According to human rights groups in Colombia, in 1988, there were more than 5,000 assassinations for political reasons in Colombia. I mean not taking into consideration common violence, street violence and so on. In the last year, 1989, the amount reached almost 6,000. It meant that almost every day, 15 people are killed in Colombia for political reasons. Although the biggest number of these assassinations is from clear reasons, more or less 40% of those assassinations are for clear political reasons in the last two years. But also we have witnessed in Colombia recently increasing assassination of prostitutes, beggars, small drug dealers in the streets, street boys and so on. In 1988, there were more than 65 massacres. We call massacre assassinations of five or more people. In 1989 last year, the number reached 67 of those massacres. The victims of these assassinations up to last August were generally people from the left, as I said before this group that UP, Union Patriotica had been the main victim of this political assassinations. Almost 1000 of its leaders have been killed. But also junior leaders, peasant leaders, Andean leaders, even some politicians from the traditional parties that in part the approach to the people or they defend human rights, they are being killed. In last August '89th, a new situation began to change. I mean, a new situation began to so changes in the path to violence in Colombia. The assassination of Luis Carlos Galan who was at that moment the candidate, the presidential candidate that had the most support from the people. With this assassination, the trends of violence in Colombia began to show different things. Up to that moment, the main targets of violence were peasants, workers, intellectuals, soldiers, policemen, poor and lower middle classes. But now with some exceptions, what is happening in Colombia is that almost everybody can be killed. I mean, from the upper to the lower classes. And that's the new situation. In a sense that's what explains why the government decided to declare once again because it's not the first time, once again, war against the drug barons. As I recall it at least five or six times the different governments have declared war on them. But now what it's happening in Colombia is that the the ruling classes suddenly realized that the death squads were a real threat not just for the left, as they thought in the past, but for the whole society for the whole democratic system. The government that didn't control clearly the death squads in the past now see that they are a real threat to the democratic system. But in a sense, to try to stop the death squads and they drug barons that are behind them is too late in a sense and is very difficult to do at least in the short run. The death squads were allowed to exist for a long time. And in a sense, this is not, I don't see any possibility of finishing it, stopping the war, at least in the short run, because the death squads are supported by the drug barons by certain military and by certain landlords. So in a sense, this groups are tied to groups from the ruling classes and that's very difficult. I mean, in a sense, the government always had been the supporter of the ruling classes and now it cannot go against the ruling classes or certain sectors of the ruling classes. In Colombia it's different from of course from what happens in Central America. We cannot say that the good guys are on this side and the bad guys are on this side as I have shown even the leftist guerrilla had problems in the past certain ties with the drug barons not any more and there are human rights violations. On the other hand, I mean, you cannot say that for example, the drug barons are the bad guys and the rest of the society is the good guys. Part of the politicians are in both, not directly at least indirectly with the drug trafficker. So it's not an easy situation. Even more, the drug economy is so strongly that it had cause presence in all sectors of society within the army, within the politicians as I said before. In a sense also the government is alone. And that's another picture that one gets sometimes from the news. The government is alone in this war against the drug barons, against the death squads. Why? Because the traditional politicians they don't care beyond of their interest, they don't care. Some of them even they have ties with the drug barons. In the past there have been accusations by different politicians saying that some of them receive money for the political campaigns and so on and so forth. Of course no proof because there is not the possibility of having enough proofs to demonstrate that, think that for most of the Colombians, it's their reality. So some traditional politicians don't care about people and the others are tied to the, have certain kinds of ties with the drug barons. The army, the same as I said before. I mean I cannot say that the whole army I cannot say today that the army, the are armed force in Colombia are all a part of the drug barons, no. But of course there are certain ties that everybody in Colombia knows. The left on the other hand is not willing to support the government because in a sense, the left is the victim, is the target of human rights abuses. So, suddenly the left cannot change and say, \"Okay we are gonna support you.\" Because on the other hand, it's amazing. But with this so-called drug war, sometimes you see that for example, a building of the union is taken by the army looking with a justification of that they are looking for drug barons or the drug traffickers, but in reality, they are trying to take some leftists union leaders and something like that. So in a sense for the left, it's not easy to say we are gonna support the government in this war because they are still the main target of the human rights abuses. In that sense, it's very unlikely that the left supports the government. The recent of offensive of the drug barons has decreased a little bit since last December. By the way, as Gabriel Garcia Marcus says, the problem with the drug barons is that, I mean what can finish the war with the drug barons is not exactly the army or the government.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112736#t=0.0,2773.488"}]}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - 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that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=9.877,13.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes no one has any explanation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=13.12,16.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the actions of those drug 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all","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=28.66,31.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hit some special parts of the drug traffick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=31.54,36.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And of course the assassination of Gacha, Rodriguez Gacha","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=37.701,41.37"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who was one of the heads of the Medellin Cartel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=41.37,45.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Was also an important issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=45.29,47.333"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But on the other hand the business is still on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=52.41,57.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, Cocaine is still coming to the U.S.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=57.23,59.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I remember it was in the news program","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=60.89,65.098"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they showed that the amount is increasing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=65.098,67.198"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I mean, there is no an easy end.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=68.72,73.337"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And of course, they already killed Rodriguez 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shows","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=116.0,118.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that most of the people support kind","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=119.34,122.053"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of dialogues between the government and these actors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=122.053,127.053"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Especially with the drug barons","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=127.21,128.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737/transcript/26045/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to settle down this 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And sometimes no one has any explanation of the actions of those drug barons. But anyway, the reason offensive has decreased a little bit, it seems that the government after all hit some special parts of the drug traffick. And of course the assassination of Gacha, Rodriguez Gacha who was one of the heads of the Medellin Cartel. Was also an important issue. But on the other hand the business is still on. I mean, Cocaine is still coming to the U.S. And I remember it was in the news program they showed that the amount is increasing. So I mean, there is no an easy end. And of course, they already killed Rodriguez Gacha. Now, if they kill Pablo Escobar and the other heads of the Meridian cartel, some of the young drug traffickers are gonna take their places. As soon as their business is a very profitable business. It's not easy to end that. When the other act of the U.S administration appears, pushing Colombians for a solution that, I mean it's not the solution that we would like to develop. Recent polls in Columbia shows that most of the people support kind of dialogues between the government and these actors. Especially with the drug barons to settle down this violence. Because I mean, it's not possible to live forever with this degree of crime and violence. But you see the answer of the U S administration is that no deals. Of course here in the U S there is a serious problem of drug use. And we are concerned with that. But it doesn't justify any U.S intervention in Colombia or in any Latin American country. Finally, what do I see as a future? First of all, as I said before, I do not see any easy ending of these different rows. Neither the wall of the guerrilla, nor the drug barons, the death squads or even they army fighting against these other actors. None of these actors can win completely. At least for the time being. But one thing that we can say or we have to do in Columbia and with the help of people like you, is to stop the high degree of violence the human rights abuses. I mean, that's for sure that has to change. For example, is important in Colombia to grow a new ethic about the respect of life. That all sides not just the government, because sometimes the lefties, guerrilla, say, \"Look, it's the state.\" But sometimes the state say, \"Look is communist.\" All sides, most respect and in that sense, most people responsibility falls on the back of the government. It's the government, it was elected to respect the laws. It can be ironically to say that we have to humanize the world, but this is, I mean, something that has to be done in Colombia. Respect for civilians. Not killing of civilians. Not kidnapping of people. I mean, for example, soldiers who are not in a battle field cannot be killed and so on and so forth. The government is responsible of impunity. It must prosecute the military involved in human rights abuses. It has to stop the death squads. And the amazing thing is that, the military intelligence knew where those camps were, but they didn't do nothing in the past. Now they are tried to do, but the death squads are moving very fastly. And I would guess, with the support of some maybe military. It's important to build a real judicial system. It's not a problem that all judges in Columbia are piped by the drug barons or the by the leftist. In general, in the Colombian system, the judicial system has been very weak. The state doesn't give enough money to the judges. And so it has to, I mean, to regain credibility, legitimacy. The state has to develop a real judicial system. And to prosecute civilians and military in both the regulation of human rights and regulation of law. Of course, another thing that I see is that there is no positive. I mean, no one in Columbia wants U.S intervention, neither in Columbia, nor any Latin American country. I think that the U.S can help with, for example, better economic conditions. Why don't you, I mean the government help us with a new reconstructing deal or a building. The coffee pact, the international coffee pact was broken last year. And that way peasants are gonna still cultivate coffee. Or the same with flowers. Some of the Colombians talk about a kind of Marshall plan. That's not for the immediate future but I think that in a sense what creates this coal economy or the existence of sectors in the Colombian society, willing to support the drug traffick is the whole economy. I mean, our economy is so weak. That the people live the only way to survive in a sense. So we, with a better economic condition, I cannot say that tomorrow is gonna be finished everything but at least somethings can change. Of course, as our president says, there is a problem of demand here, but you know, a lot of about that. I'm not going to talk about that. And I don't see why there is no the possibility of having a serious discussion about the possibility of legalizing, at least some drugs. I'm not saying that I'm in favor or against that. But some of even a former secretary of state and some other Americans, and of course in Latin America people say, let's talk at least about this possibility. This would have, one advantage, is that at least the violence involved in the illegal drug traffick will diminish. But of course, I see that the legalization of certain drugs can be very dangerous. So why don't we start to talk about that? You know, very passionate approach. Finally, I guess the important thing is to try to preserve the respect of human rights everywhere. Not just in Columbia but in any place of the world, in which the human rights have been violated. Thank you very much. So if you have a question so far, criticism.\r\n\r\n- And the next one I would like to point attention is about the period of the war of 18 in Columbia. The point that I would like to Europinionist about the distinguish between one situational, and the seclusion of the human rights. And why is it that people inside the institutions\r\n\r\n- Okay, now more questions and then I can answer or each time I answer? Let's say, okay.\r\n\r\n- Do you feel there's been a greater degree of violence or just resentment in the American policy to get drug barons and people accused of drug crimes you know with blood hands extradited to the United States? Is there then a greater increase in violence because of our policy trying to push that. I know that there was a lot of opposition to getting that path.\r\n\r\n- Okay, yeah.\r\n\r\n- To what degree is the whole financial system of Columbia dependent on drug money? And how does that even reaches the United States and our banking system is designed to be dependent on drug money also?\r\n\r\n- Yeah. Okay, let's answer these questions and then we can go on. First of all, of course, I didn't, I mean I don't say that the whole Army. the whole Navy and the Air Force are involved totally in the human rights abuses. But on the other hand, I don't trust the common answer is that certain individuals. You see the problem is not the whole army just one or two persons. There are things that are not very completely clear. For example, what happened in the early eighties when they death squads, begun to be trained in, for example in the central region and with the help, even from the military, some of the military. But of course it's Colombian situation is different from what happened in Argentina. It's clear that we don't have a military commander trying to planning the whole preparation of human rights. That's true and I would say that, of course there must be and there are some members of the military that have not involved even in the whole problem of drug or in the human rights abuses. But there are certain things that are not easily explained. The respect of human rights in Colombia has been an important issue since the late seventies when Amnesty International went to Columbia and make the strong accusations on the govern. And since then we have had a strong human rights new movement. It's like, we were talking with Fred today and this like a new social movement, not very popular in the sense that not all of the people know about that. But we have a strong Human Rights Committees. By the way there is one in the U.S. And after the talk, I can give you the address or if you want to contact this Human Rights Committee. And also in the last government, the president established and in a special office in close attached to the presidency called The Human Rights Office. And by the way, he was a historian. The person in charge of this office, but it's not enough. I mean, we can recognize that the government is doing some efforts, but it's not enough. About the problem of extradition, in Columbia, I would say that most of the people don't like extradition. But the amazing thing is that with these crimes that the drug barons are committing they associate assassination and everything. Sometimes people can say, \"Okay, extradite Pablo Escobar.\" For example or Rodriguez Gacha of course. I would say that 90% of the Columbia school, like to, I mean, to do something with Rodriguez Gacha. 'Cause he was really a killer. But it's not I mean, for any worry, I can think that here it's more or less the same to have Americans taking to a different country judge with different laws and putting in jail in a different country. It's not very calm. I mean, and it's not just a problem of being common but it's a problem of sovereignty. The pressure that the U.S does sometimes for the extradition is not well received in Columbia. That's true, but sometimes the government assumes and the problem of violence is not just against American interests. Now there have been problems. But in general the government is the one who says, \"Okay we're gonna start at this kingpins of the drug barons.\" And so what happened is that the government is the one who is suffering the bombings and now in the recent times. So I don't know if, I mean, the problem of extradition it's a problem of principles. People, would say, would answer, \"We don't want extradition.\" But maybe in certain cases. Yeah, but as a general idea nobody trusts or believes that extradition is the way to solve situation in Colombia. And on the other hand, what is very striking for me and for most of the people who are thinking in that problem, is that the whole propaganda on extradition shows that the Colombian system is so weak. And has shown is weak, but it's not that weak. So weak that, in a sense, the last stage or the next stage is gonna be invasion. I mean, after what happened in Panama on the battleship close to Columbia. I thought the next country was going to be Columbia. Of course that didn't happen, fortunately. But with this kind of idea that the Colombians are just crazy and the judges they don't do anything. That the police is corrupt. The next step can be invasion. I mean, that's not the solution, of course. The financial system is very difficult to say the real impact of the drug money. And the money that comes from the drug traffick. But in general, people say that the positive growth of the Colombian economy in general, are due mostly to the money that comes from the drug traffick. In the past certain banks have been accused. And even some of them went into problems because of that problem, out of that relationship. And in Panama, there was a strong connection. And I would say that impart some banks in Florida. Some banks in here also being fed by the the money that comes from the drug traffick. What happens in Columbia is that if the government wants to have a strong currency we have the so-called in the state bank. There is a special place which everybody can go and change dollars for pesos. In theory, you are not going to be asked why in reality, there are some cameras and taking photos of the people who are now changing huge amounts of dollars. But of course the drug baron can say, can hire a kid or someone to go to that window, ask for this change. So, but, and this is, I mean it's a huge amount of money every day is changing. And the whole laundry operations has been denounced sometimes. But it's pretty difficult to have data on that money because somehow underground economy. Yes.\r\n\r\n- You described an exchange in the relationship between the drug producers and the guerrillas. And now 'cause there's a lot of violence between those groups. I was wondering what was responsible for that change? Where the guerrillas asking for a share in the profits or tax on the producers or what?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, there are certain explanations. Maybe that I gave the idea that at the beginning they were very good friends and then they have problems. No, from the very beginning, there were problems. Even the first death squad that was established in Columbia. It was created in Columbia. It was called ; death to kidnappers. And it was because one of the left escarian woman kidnapped one of the person tied to these drug cartels. So the first death squad was founded by the drug cartels. What happened at the beginning is that they have differences but also they have some deals. Sometimes as I said before, peasants cultivate Coca leaves and the guerrilla asked for a small tip or tax sort of tax. But later on, the problem is, or the problem began to grow because not just, the guerrilla sometimes ask for more money but that that could happen, but also this problem of the drug barons buying land and then decided to, clean up the regions. So the biggest threat was the leftist and guerrilla. And on the other hand, of course, I mean if someone can ask Pablo Escobar, \"Do you believe in, what do you believe in?\" He says, \"I believe in trade economy, market economy capitalist values.\" They are businessmen. They are interested in entrepreneurship. Based in a sense, in a way, very dangerous in another way. Yes.\r\n\r\n- When you talk about the invasion, what justification, how would the United States pull off an invasion? Would they go in against the drug trade? Is there more profound reason of the creation of the drug traffickers with the leftist guerrillas or part of that is true but that's even more profound reason for such an invasion or would it actually be\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I mean, there can be certain reasons. Of course, to go against the guerrillas will be not the smartest thing to do. They didn't, I mean, the government didn't go to Nicaragua. They just paid the contrast. In Columbia, that would be not as smart to say, \"Okay we're gonna defeat the guerrillas.\" Because in a sense the guerrillas cannot win. And they in a sense, the army can control certain regions and the guerrillas are just gonna stay like that. The main reason or their rationale or the reasons that I can see is tied to the drug traffick. If the U.S government began to show the Colombian government as kind of Noriega's government that the barcode is not exactly Noriega but it's a puppet of the drug barons. The Columbia still debut, the big producer of cocaine, ultra former of Coke, Coke leaves. So in that sense someday, I mean hopefully there is not going to be that day, but if the government of Columbia shown very weak and very corrupted, I mean more or less the same happened in Panama, Of course Panama's situation is different in the sense that it has been a kind of semi-colony of the U.S since the day it started. And the huge military presence there. But I mean, when I saw the invasion of Panama, I said most of the Latin American countries or the Latin American people would think like that can't happen in our country.\r\n\r\n- Okay, you mentioned earlier that part of the solution would be that the oligarchies open up the politics of the country to the social forces represented by the guerrilla labor unions, as the leaders. To what degree is that possibility at Columbia now particularly these .\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I mean, we are like an in a street without any exit because, I mean, we are in a very difficult situation because it's not the best time to do reforms to say, \"Okay now we are gonna up.\" Of course, that will be great but I can see that it for the government is not easy to say, \"Now we are gonna open up the political system. And 'cause now we have these specials from the U.S from the internal sectors, from the army sectors, from the right, which in a sense are tied to the top bands, but other sectors are not tied.\" So, I mean, now there were possibilities because what happened is that the politicians last year and the beginning of this year, they decided to boycott a political reform that was going to take place in Columbia. World's going to, to be bothered by the people. The politicians had a problem with the president and they decided not to go to the Congress. So they when they reformed was discussed by the parliament, there was a minority. So formally it was not approved. So you see that the ruling classes are not willing? They don't want to share the power? I can say that probably the president wants but he doesn't have the support of the ruling classes. The traditional parties and all the other Hunter not all of the left wants to have dealings. Some of them are still thinking and just are throwing the state through the popular war on something. So for me, that's the solution. Like to open up democracy to have a real economic democracy. More share of the pie but I can see that at least in wonder, this is consensus. This is not the easy.\r\n\r\n- Please pull it up. You mentioned that back the political class and it's the oligarchies not wanting to open up. The military was separate from the older guard. Do you agree to separate the two? What is it's current, the military would also resist it. Is that so?\r\n\r\n- Yes so.\r\n\r\n- How much of this politics is on USA to Columbian military?\r\n\r\n- Ah, yeah, no, that's another issue. As I said before, the military are very close to the ruling classes. We, I mean we don't have to live like the Peruvian experience in which the military took a different approach. In general military supports the traditional politicians. And we depend a lot of, from the U.S aid in military. For example days after the assassination of Galan in August, we got some airplanes and helicopters and bicycles.\r\n\r\n- the drug trafficking also stops the growth of a third party or fourth at the same time.\r\n\r\n- Yes, and also because for the Alisa, I have this feeling that for officially, for the Bush administration there is a still this theory of Nacogeria. So if you will deal with the guerrilla in a sense you are opening up the path for the drug barons to get into the political arena. In Columbia, the government, fortunately doesn't share this theory now. But I can see that the help of the U.S is not just against the drug barons but against guerrilla and sometimes it's being used not against the labs, the laboratories of the drug or the places in which the drug barons are. But the places in which the guerrilla is still there. So it's a very complicated situation. And what it's most difficult is that the president, the government is leaving. I mean, it's like being increasingly alone, alone. And that's, I'm not saying that for example there is gonna be a military coup tomorrow or something like that. But, eh, I feel that the political situation in Columbia is taking a very difficult process. And I don't see in the short term any changes. Because the traditional class and the ruling classes are not willing to share power. The army strongly anticommunist and opposes any change in the political system. The left discouraged or some of them don't want to talk and still fight. So the civilians The solution, that's the problem with human rights. We'll see if the civilians, if you are joining a junior, I mean you are not going to be killing immediately but you are on the thread. So, it's a little bit pessimistic, but sometimes reality is like. I don't know, if you have more questions. So I guess, yeah, please.\r\n\r\n- You mentioned the legalization of drugs.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I'd like to, just wondering about your opinion on the moral issue, For example, you know in our society we view drugs as being really bad. And how would we present this to our children? I was talking about the negative aspects of drugs and how would I if something like that happened, how would I explain them?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, okay what I was saying is that I was not supporting the legalization of drugs. Of course, I was saying that there must be a discussion. An open discussion about the pros and cons of pros and factors against these issues. That certain politicians have talked recently. I see some, let's say positive facts in the whole international situation. The violence even here, for example, in the streets of New York. I don't know exactly your city. So I cannot talk about that, but in the cities, like New York or Los Angeles too, you see every day there's a high degree of violence tied to this situation. On the other hand, I see that drugs have a very difficult I mean, very bad consequences for people. So I'm not saying that the solution is legalization. But the, I don't know at least from a historical point of view, you see you will have in the twenties this lower the provision of alcohol and the whole violence involving that. I don't know, eh, it's not, I realized that it's not an answer. But I just wanted to say that my position is not clear. And that I think that if there must be a talk or discussion about that, and shall wait, for example the terrible impact that can happen in young people and the problem that is happening here and in some other countries. But I mean, why not just talk. Instead of say, \"No, no, no, no\". Or Joe saying, \"Yes, yes, yes.\" Okay, thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40902/file/112737#t=0.0,2063.544"}]}]}]}