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With regard to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=13.96,17.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Department of Chemistry. So. 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There was a. Kid in my class from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=3730.46,3733.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/902","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Manhattan. Terrible New York accent and. 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I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=3742.25,3744.6"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/905","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought he had a speech impediment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=3745.06,3746.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/906","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh poor guy. He just can't talk right. Well a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=3748.4,3752.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/907","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little by little my ear adjusted and I realized.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=3752.42,3754.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/908","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Now I have a problem sometimes when I go","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=3756.87,3759.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/909","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back to the east coast. Especially if it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=3759.02,3761.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/910","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Massachusetts or something like that because they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=3761.69,3764.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/911","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have a fertile sex and also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412#t=3764.42,3766.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35377/file/104412/transcript/21796/annotation/912","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay well Bob I think that's it. Oh God. 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And we're here on the campus of Iowa State University to record the oral history the memories of Professor Robert Jacobson. With regard to the Department of Chemistry. So. Bob do you want to start just by saying a few words about yourself. OK in terms of my history I was born and brought up in Waterbury Connecticut went to the University of Connecticut as an undergraduate I got my bachelors degree there. When I was in my senior year there. We had a visit from Professor William Lipscomb who was at the University of Minnesota at that time. And it turns out that my Professor of Physical Chemistry Yukon was also a HD from the University of Minnesota. And they encouraged me to apply to graduate school at the University of Minnesota. Which I did among other places. And I ended up deciding to go to the University of Minnesota. And while there I decided to join Bill Lipscomb group. And so I got my PHC and physical chemistry with a specialization in x ray crystallography. And then did you do a postdoc. I had a postdoc offer from. Actually I got it through the National Science Foundation. But to work with roots and kangaroo in England. But at the same time I received an offer from Princeton University to teach there. And to join the faculty so I had to decide which one to take. And after a lot of hemming and hawing I decided to go to Princeton. And start. My teaching career there. I didn't know that about you. And I taught at Princeton for five years. And then. Iowa State contacted me to see if I would be interested in coming here and taking over the remains of Bob Randall's group. Rundle had died. That 63 64 year. And he was in a situation where. He was trying to expand the crystallography group. Here at Iowa State. They had made some. Commitments in terms of instrumentation purchases. And the reactor was just being started here. The bill and he was planning on having X-ray and neutron diffraction facilities here. And when he died suddenly then they were looking around for somebody to come in and take over that. And so I came out and gave a seminar here and interviewed and they gave me an offer. And so I decided to leave Princeton and come here. And. So then. Did you. Get you started as an assistant professor. I came here I was an assistant professor at Princeton. So I came here as an associate professor. They offered me tenure here as part of the offer okay. And. So was your research supported by the Ames Laboratory from from the time I came here. My research was supported by the Ames Laboratory and by the Department of Energy and its predecessor with the ABC. And who was chair when you were hired. It was Charlie Getz who was head of the department at that time because they made the change after gets to go from our department head to a department chairman. Okay. And what was. Against like. I never had any problems although I you know I really was only here as head. For just a couple of years I think it was before they made the change. So I didn't. Have a lot of experience. Interacting with them. But my interactions have always been fairly pleasant with a minor road problems. And and who was your supervisor in the Ames lab or in your program. Manager or. Well when I came initially it would have been. Called who was the head of the. Tip my tongue and I can't think of a lot of hands. No. Before Harrison back. No. Oh. You started the Ames lab. Of course. Spending spending. Yeah yeah. Yeah. So what was spending like. He was somebody that. Had his ideas on how to do things and you quickly learned. What you should do and what you shouldn't do in a lot of these were little idiosyncrasies like. You better be in working on this early morning because he'd likely wander around to see which groups were working at a sorority in which word and he felt he's in on a sorority morning you should be in on this early morning. Some of these sorts of things but they were all a little idiosyncrasy in terms of the science. There was never any problem. OK. So. What were you what were the job expectations when you started. Well especially on the university side. On the university side. It was. A situation where I was half time teaching and half to our research. So the teaching would be typically. The physical chemistry teaching. There was a crystallography course that was taught every other year. And I would. Usually the one that would teach that. And then. If I wasn't teaching that I might be teaching the. Undergraduate physical chemistry course or I often taught. General Chemistry. About one year out of every three I would teach. 177 or the equivalent the first semester of general chemistry. So I kind of rotated between general chemistry and. Physical Chemistry. And. Was there a certain number of papers you were kind of expected to publish every year. Was. It. Good. Was there a standard that. There wasn't a particular standard. You were certainly expected to publish and I think we all knew that. And so we tended to. Publish and. So much depended on just. How things went. That particular year you know you sometimes you have students working on research projects that. Work out as you hoped then other times. What look like they should be straight forward projects turned out to be things that don't really were good and you had to retrench and have the student work on something else. Yeah I know that. So there is you know if you're not doing that kind of thing you're not at the forefront of research. You never can predict exactly what's going to work and what isn't. And a lot of what we were doing in the. Especially in the early to middle years was that we were trying to. Make the transition from. Doing crystallography by. Film techniques or by. A. Single crystal assimilation contradicting techniques. To some. Approach that would be more user friendly more automated. When I came to I was state. Typically what one did was to put a crystal on a different arm or. Take. Film pictures. For a while to a large part. This required that you. Take pictures over about a month period of time because you. Films were. Such that they only had a fairly small linear range of intensities that they could record. And so you had to take a particular setting of the crystal. A number of different exposure times. To accommodate intense reflections and spots that were very weak so it would take a month. So it would take a month or more to do this and then you had to read each intensity and what we would do is we would take one characteristic. Hopefully well shaped reflection. And. Take a piece of film and measure that reflection. For a small period of time and then gradually increase the period of time moving the film slightly up. So we had a film scale. Wow. And then we would use this scale to match against every reflection of all these films. To come up with. An estimate of the intensity how painful and it there was a saying that went around for those research groups that were fairly large and at that time it was mostly males that were involved in doing the the work. But a lot of these groups would hire the wives to come in and read these intensities because for some reason or other. The women were more accurate at reading the matching because you had a you had to not only match. What the intensity was but you had to take into account that some spots along gain a little bit and some are contracted and that affects the overall intensity number. And we. So one of my big goals when I came was to try to. Avoid having to do all of that and get something that was more automatic. The other approach that. Had been started here. Was one where. You did. Some of the initial measurements by phone. But now you use Polaroid film so you could make very quick exposures. Use this to get. Information on what the crystal a unit cell was. Repeating it was and then also what the likely Crystal system was. We took this information. We went over to the comp center ran a program there that would tell us what angles we should set the cross the lab. To measure these thousand reflections or so that we would have to measure. And then we would put. This information. Just came out as a big list. We would use this and we had people and students or there was one technical person that was on the payroll. That would take and set the angles by hand on a three angle to frack down water and do this for a thousand reflections or more. And again that took you know in the neighborhood of a month to collect all of the data the data was more accurate but it was still very time consuming to do this. And you can imagine that. Your accuracy at setting angles at 9:00 in the morning was a lot better than at 5:00 in the afternoon. You started to get errors and you started to get mis readings things. So you had to worry about all of that. And so one of the big thrusts then when I came was to try to. Automate these things. We purchased a computer that would be take up more space than in this office at that time because they were still just making the transition to. Computers that had non tube type electronics transistor electronics. I might mention that when I was doing graduate work. I work on. One of the very first computers that was made the Remington Rand Univac in St. Paul. Heard of it. We used the university used to get time on it between one and three in the morning because nobody else wanted it yet. And so we would go over and do that but all the programming was done in machine language Fortran hadn't come along yet. And so it was a laborious process. Everything that you put in was the punched paper tape. And the output was. From. By punch paper tape. And I spent a number of Sunday mornings taking punch paper tape and going over to the university. Teletype. Systems that could read paper tape and produce a printed sheet. To get results out. But at least that gave me the experience coming here I was familiar with computers. Sure. And so. I. Got started on a program where I had help from two people in the Com say area George culvert and Jerry Campbell. They wrote a language so that we could code the computer they wrote APL one type operating system. So we learned in addition to Fortran and other computer language. We use this to. Program the this PDP 15 computer that we bought. That was connected to one of these different diameters in order to we purchased a direct arm or that was a four circle unit. And. But this was all mechanically run. No electronics. So then I had Harold's game from the EMS lab instrumentation. Develop the appropriate electronics so we could put stepping motors and encoders. On the circles. So that we could run the different diameter. The instructions from the PDP 15. Was anybody else working on this kind of interfacing at that time or were you they were just starting to try to do some of these kinds of things. At the reactor here and there were a few other Oakridge was doing some work along these lines. There were some. Other. There was one commercial company that was starting to look at this kind of thing but nothing really developed enough so that you could. Go ahead and purchase any kind of. Unit that would be ready made to do it. We pretty much had to do things ourselves. The other complication we ran into is that. BOB RANDALL When. Just before he died had. Ordered these two fracked armors for mainland. Turns out there were held your lights to protect homeowners. But they were supposed to have. Built in optical encoders. And. The claim that. They held your lights made was that these would be accurate to one hundredth of a degree. Well. When we. Got these in and we tried to interface into those we turn it turns out their electronics were not stable enough. To give that kind of accuracy. And so. You could operate for an hour or two and things would be all right. And then the electronics would start to drift. In their optical encoders. And so we were having problems that you couldn't get reproducible results. Fortunately. Through the Ames lab. We had purchased this other different odometer and we had gotten our own optical encoders. And they turned out to be quite stable. The only difficulty we had with those is that for two of the four angled shafts. We had to use. Encoders that were not absolute encoders. There were just relative encoders. So that meant because our shaft emotions were very tightly constricted in space. So that meant we had to design something that had. A reference point in it. So what we would do when we were in the process of collecting data is that we would collect data for. Maybe a thousand and ten or 100 intensities of a thousand and go back then to the reference point and see whether indeed. The encoder was reading 0 1 it should be reading 0. And almost all the time it was these turned out to be very good that way. But you didn't know ahead of time until you had to build in all of these safeguards. Just to be. The side of caution be sure that you're getting the results. And then at the same time we were trying to develop instruments out of the reactor. We had to neutron direct armor. Units one for power work and one for single crystal work. That were being set up at the reactor. And that was being interface to a different computer. Yes. Nine 10. That's the reactor people that purchased. And did not get working. We got that working. We had. Intensity problems there. The reactor was a five megawatt reactor which is not a very intense source. And you had the problem of you had either had to have very large crystals. Which were often very difficult to get. Or you had to find other ways to. Try to enhance the intensity. The beam that comes out of the reactor the. The neutron beam. Is. A. White beam. So you don't get just a single wavelength. And we needed a single wavelength if we're going to have something comparable to an X-ray source. Sure. And so we had to use a monochrome emitter which meant you lost more intensity. While we also experimented a little bit with a white beam source. Where what we did was we tried to use. The crystal itself. And take advantage of the fact that the crystals doing diffraction in a particular position it's only gonna refract particular wavelengths. And so we tried to make some measurements as to what the intensity spectrum was of our white beam coming in and then use this in a computer program where we could analyze the diffraction pattern and convert it back to something that was approximately equivalent to a single wavelength source. And we. We came up with this approach and I remember once when Bob Hansen was director of AIM's lab. We had these meetings every few weeks or so. And one of the physicists. And I got into a somewhat heated discussion as to whether it would work or not. And I thought it would and he said he he didn't think it would that there would be too many things overlapping with one or another. And he gave us. A large chromium crystal that we could try. Chromium. It has a magnetic scattering that goes along with. And so instead of getting a small unit so you get a cell which is eleven times bigger. OK so a lot more density of fractions. So it gives you a lot of diffraction spots. And we tried that and fortunately we're able to show that we could get the structure of the magnetic structure chromium. Shortly after that three mile island occurred. And. Congress and the Department of Energy decided that. Research reactors were too similar to power reactors. And so they decided to cut funding for the research reactor here. And so a lot of that investment we made in terms of trying to get instruments that would work there just went down the drain. Yes I did profit a little bit from that in that. Argonne was. Starting to put together their intense neutron source pulsing of drugstores. And so I spent part of a summer and then I collaborated at other times during the next couple of years with the Argonne people. Because some of the work that we did with white beam then was applicable to pulse neutron source. And it also gave me an end if we ever wanted to do diffraction work at Argonne. Because I had a number of. Close contacts there then that I could twist their arm a little bit and get high priority. And I know that. You did a lot of. Work. With industry. At what point did that start to develop. I mean industry in the sense of. Helping improve technology in commercial it was more in the latter part of my academic life here that I got involved there I worked quite a bit with. Molecular Structure Corporation. And this was at a time. That they were. Beginning to use area detectors. So the technology had improved from film to single crystal simulation counter type measurements. To area detector measurements. So now you could. With area detectors as you probably aware. You can measure complete diffraction pattern in just a day or so. One of the. Difficulties that one has in trying to get accurate intensities. From diffraction measurements is you always you have to worry about effects due to absorption. Because some x rays pass through the crystal are going to be more strongly absorbed than other x rays pass. And so before you can get an accurate intensity number you have to correct for absorption. What we would do on a. Scintilla Asian counter type system angular system where you're moving the crystal ball around is that we would. Examine the crystal and get. Just by using optical reflection get an approximate size of the crystal. So we could describe its approximate shape. And then from that you could use mathematical expressions to go ahead and. Get an absorption. Measurement. We could also do. Empirical absorption by since we had the freedom to rotate the crystal around in a variety of directions in space. We could get a direction where you could observe. X ray diffraction and continue to observe it as the crystal was being rotated. While this meant that you could get an empirical estimate of the absorption because different thicknesses would occur as the crystal was rotated and you could use this to empirically get absorption. Measurements and then use this to correct your dataset. While all these go out the window pretty much when you have an area detector. And so. In y last few years before I retired. I. Maybe four or five years before I retired I spent part of a year with molecular structure Corp.. Looking at their system and coming up with some preliminary programs as to how to do this absorption correction. Then I continued to work on it. After I came back here. And when I retired I could continue to work a little bit more on that. And they've been using that program now since then. Which kind of leads me into the natural question. What what achievements in your career are you most proud of. Here probably it's setting up the diffraction facilities so that. They could be. Fairly readily used by students that didn't have a. Very extensive background in crystallography. That probably took my diffraction course but that would be about it and their interests would be usually typically primarily a synthesis. Maybe they're from an inorganic synthesis group or an organic group. And they want to use it just as a tool. To do crystal structure determination molecular structure germination. And we ended up having this system where these kind of people could come in they could just sign up for time on the unit they could go ahead and collect the data and we had the necessary programs both for data collection and to help them do the structure solution work so they could just take that over to the com center their data run the appropriate programs over there. And then I would usually see some of them every once in a while where they had some problem that was a little less than routine. And was that. Facility. For the lavatory or was it used by the university. What we did was we set it up in such a way that Ames lab people had priority in terms of using it but if there were time still available on it then somebody from let's say an organic research group here or somebody from metallurgy could come over and use it and we had a firm number of users that way and then we also got involved. To a large amount in cases where somebody would. Maybe you would be for example original Iraq would synthesize something and he didn't have a student particularly interested in doing it. Themselves but would come and ask Well could somebody in my group take a look at it and see if they could do the structure of germination. And I use these kind of things a lot of times for. Graduate students in my group to get them some experience in crystallography. For zero be a variety of kinds of problems that would come in then. And so that would give them good fodder to go through and try to learn. You know it's one thing to have me talk about it in a classroom setting and it's another thing to come into the laboratory and actually do some of these things. That's where you really learn it. And usually in my approach when I had a. Graduate student join the group would be to try to pick out a problem that I thought was going to be fairly straightforward. And have the student learn the techniques that way. And then as they became more accomplished have them do structure determinations that are more challenging or to get off into working more with hardware modifications or computer programming to do you know we had various ideas we wanted to try out to help improve structure determination once you had the data sets collected. And some of these were done a lot of them. Look great on paper or disaster but they were the kind of things that you could get more experienced courageous student and then they could do a little work on and then we could make a better judgment as to whether there is any hope and really pursuing that. Or should we take a different road. Sure. And. Can you say a few words that what did you expect from your graduate students and what did you think they could expect from you. What were your what were their responsibilities to you and what were your responsibilities to them. Well in terms of. Their responsibilities I expected obviously for them to give their best best efforts in both working in the laboratory and then doing the appropriate things on their computers and so forth to try to learn crystallography and to do the structure terminations. I wanted. My students to be in a situation where if they went out into teaching. Or into industry. Or working with government labs I've had students that go all these roads. That they would be able to do the sorts of things that they would be expected to do. And you know it might be that they would end up teaching at a small college and hardly ever do any further work in crystallography. But you never know what they're how they were going to end up and what they were going to end up doing. So you wanted them to be prepared to do any of these kinds of things. And some of those and it would vary a little bit depending on which area they were working and when we had the reactor going I was in a situation there where I wanted to be sure that somebody. Who finished here and then went our God and say our Oak Ridge would be able to go ahead and do the appropriate things using neutrons rather than using x rays and so you know in some cases you modified things a little bit one way or the other. And I expect that anytime that. A student had difficulty that he would come in and talk to me about it. And I usually had no problems that way they usually were not reticent at all about coming and. The only problems I ever encountered there were. Language problems with some of the Chinese. I had one that was. Is an. Older student. He was very nice. But he was very reticent about coming in and asking questions and when he'd come in you would. I would try to explain something to him and he would not like yes yes he's understanding it. He'd go away two days later he came back and asked me almost this day. So I quickly learned when he comes in let's go to the blackboard and if I wrote it down on the blackboard then he seemed to comprehend it. Oh. Right. But he was one that I always felt sorry for because. He had a tough time trying to find a position in the US. He was from China. He they had he was married they had another child when he was a graduate student here. So we had too many children according to the Chinese policy. So he was trying to find a position in the U.S.. He was maybe 10 years older than the typical student. Because he had taught high school for a number of years in China before he decided to go on before he was allowed to go on to graduate school. What happened to him. He finally found a position out on the West Coast. With some industrial for good but it was touch and go for a long time. And he wasn't. Really exceptional student. You know. So he didn't have that type of ability that you could say well he's better than most of my typical students. So what happened to your students. You know I'm not a national lab industry. Oh I've had him. I've had students go to the national labs. I have one who's. Working at Oak Ridge. I've had students go to industry I've got to wind it up but MSE. I've had a number of men that have gone on to teach in universities. I've got another one at 3 am. So it's across the board pretty much. I have one who's I think he may be chairman of the department now a University of Texas. But I've got other ones at small. Colleges. I've had some that do like. Maybe work on one crystal structure year that they have a lot of teaching and they just have a small amount of time to do a little bit of research but they keep their fingers in it. I'm going back to the department a little bit. Can you tell me what do you remember about the dynamics among the faculty were there certain issues that were particularly controversial. Well there you know there were some of the usual things about curriculum changing how should we change the curriculum or not. And I remember some faculty meetings going back and forth about that. I remember one meeting where we had the. The. DEAN OF L.A. s over. And he was trying to make the argument that there should be more group requirements. And this was at a time that there were a fairly large number of group requirements in the department and in no way one more group requirements imposed on us. What does that mean the group requirement claimed you know how you have to take so many courses in things like history and philosophy you know things outside of Sciences. Sure OK. You know in terms of math and sciences we were fine. We were over what they wanted. But they wanted more in terms of language courses history philosophy English courses those sorts of things. And he came from a department that. Had a number of courses and you could take any one of these in any order. So you didn't have to take let's say American history before you took European History. And he couldn't see why we had this structured program where they had to take certain chemistry courses and you had to take certain math courses before you took this chemistry course in certain physics courses. And so we were going around and around with him are you trying to tell him. Well we were just our program here was the same kind of program that you would find at most other major university universities that taught chemistry. And if he was going to try to force us to cut out a chemistry course he wanted us to cut out. I think it was an advanced. The senior year in advanced chemistry course and substitute a liberal arts course instead. And so we went around that around it was a stormy faculty meeting and he left and I never heard a word about it since. I think after that somebody higher up told them no you can't do that. Is this is Iowa State University's science and technology. Which was you. You don't have to be mean. I don't even remember the name anymore. Fortunately I know it was somebody from either philosophy or history. But I don't remember which. Out of sight out of mind. Wow. So. How did the faculty interact socially. Moore So I think when I first came here they used to have dinners. Fairly often at other people's houses I remember going to guts his house once or twice and we had dinner there and then Corbett's and. Bob McCullough rallies and so forth. But then that kind of gradually faded out. And. I think to it was a case that in those early days there. The restaurant choices around the names were fairly limited. And I've heard. And people did this more. OK. So what. What. Aspect of the job did you like the most. I mean was it teaching writing papers traveling working in the lab. Oh I think the research and the teaching in general. Probably the. The only course that I really. Found I dislike teaching. One year I don't know how I got. Stuck with teaching that course but it was the trailer cause of general chemistry. The second semester where it was mostly descriptive chemistry and it was for those people that did not. Get through the course the follow the preceding semester. So I had students in there that had no interest at all in the course and. It was more just as I say more descriptive chemistry less first semester type baby became. Type subjects. So it was something that you know I had to do a little more work to prepare lectures and they'd come in and. Half of them would have the. Iowa State Daily up in front of them reading that you tend to do on a throat job get several of. But that was not a very fun course to teach but most of the other courses were fine from one. Usually I enjoyed interacting with the students. I think especially the. Junior level physical course the. Director of course and I like to teach those. Great. And. What. Aspect of the job did you enjoy the least. Or maybe you already told us told me about you. Yeah. And you know sometimes having to write things off and I'd rather do the work. And what what phase of your career did you enjoy the most in the least like the early part. Middle part in art. Probably early to middle. Because we were so involved there and doing all this automation and doing a lot of things that were really new and I had them larger research groups than. When I. First came here. I had. 14 graduate students wow because I had five students with me at Princeton who had not finished. Their work yet when I got the offer here and so they all came out here with me. And then. Bob Rundle had built up a fairly large group. Getting ready to do all of this work before he died suddenly and I inherited all of those. And so I had a really large group research group for the first couple of years for a number of years I had. Like eight students or sewing it all a good size Research Group and a number of them were quite bright students. And this was before the. Time where. You had many foreign students or most of these were. U.S. students. So that department changed a lot over the years and you want to describe some of the changes that you've seen and you know maybe give an example of a good one and a bad one. You know if there's anything that really sticks out you know you have changes in the way. The department is run but a lot of times these are dependent on a particular individual. One has his own way of doing things and is a little different than what somebody else tells. But. No I don't. There's nothing that comes to mind that something was particularly bad. One way or the other. And a lot of times the changes were small and usually beneficial then you're not major changes. And. I guess I'm. Fairly easygoing so it doesn't rile me too much. Okay. I think. I. You know. I really like to get any stories or any anecdotes that kind of come to mind over the years. Well I could tell you about. If it would be appropriate about a meeting we had here. At Iowa State the American Crystal graphic association. In 1971 was. I had been contacted a year before so as to whether we would be. Willing to host. The national meeting summer meeting of the American Crystal graphic association. This was going to be held in the latter part of the summer. And they were looking for. University kind of facilities. Where there were large enough so that such a meeting could be held. I was told to expect 300 plus registrants at the meeting. So I checked with the university powers that be. The time they were talking about was going to be just after the summer session here ended and before the fall term started. So you know the campus is going to be fairly deserted in terms of students. And it turned out that they had just completed Carver Hall at that time. And we were. Going to require. A facility where there were a large lecture rooms two floors. And Carver fortunately had that. And they also had the nice feature that the lobby that you come into on the first floor. Is. Pretty open. It has more seats for students that want to sit out here near the windows. And we were looking for something where we could have. The vendors set up their booths someplace and so we thought Carver Hall would be ideal. We now have two large lecture halls. We'd have some smaller meeting rooms. We'd have this big four year area that they could setup equipment in displays. And as I said I got the go ahead from the university I got the go ahead from the housing people because a lot of these people like gay men would have to reside in the dormitory. Here at Iowa State because there weren't a lot of hotels around there were going to support a large number of people. And so it looked like. You know we had. Pretty much everything lined up. And I had a pretty good sized research group at that time and we had. A couple of other people in chemistry physics and metallurgy that were. Crystallography oriented so I could use them on a local committee. So I was ended up saying we would do it and I was chairman of this local committee. Then we started encountering Hartley's local problems. Well one of the things that we and we had anticipated this is that people are going to be flying into the Des Moines airport. While they had to get from Des Moines to the university. So that meant we had to have some kind of a shuttle system with buses going back and forth. It's a week long meeting so you're gonna have people coming in on Sunday but some are going to come in a little later on in the week. Most of them are going to leave Friday afternoon or certain morning. Just things ended Friday knew. We were going to have to have a facility for a banquet Thursday evening. Well fortunately the union was available and there was no conflict at that time. At the time we were talking about so we thought we had the union all up. I got close to the time that. We were supposed to have the meeting. It turns out instead of 300 a little over 300 we had about 500 people that were ready to come. So transportation got more of a problem. The union told us. Sure we can have the banquet but at that time we couldn't serve liquor in the union. So we couldn't have any gathering that had liquor before the banquet which was typical of these links. Because we were hoping to have a space where they could gather you have a drink. Yeah. Yeah and then go in and have the banquet. So we had to worry about where are we going to have the. And then we were also confronted with the problem of Sunday evening. Typically they had a wine and cheese thing. Where are we gonna have that. Well we got a hold of I think it was the Ramada Inn at that time down on South Duff and they had a fairly large meeting room and they said that well they could have the. They had a liquor license so they could have the liquors the meat little preceding thing for before the banquet. They could have that there. So we had to cart them to down to South Duff and then cart them back to the memorial Union because there was no space down there for them to have both the gathering before the banquet and the banquet. They didn't have also a large banquet hall the only place they had the banquet hall was the union. And then they told us well they couldn't have the thing on Sundays because their license at that time the state didn't allow them to serve liquor on Sunday. And the fact that it was wine meant that they couldn't. And so then we had to search around. We found out a large hall that was a private haul out on East Lincoln Way. So we've carted them there on Sunday night for the wine and cheese. So we were moving all over the place and then we had a fairly large number of. Families coming. So that meant that there were people that were not going to go to meetings that we had to have something for you. And Ames is not Chicago or Minneapolis. So what are we going to have him do. So we had. So one of the people on my committee was organizing things that they could go to. We had them go to like ledges at a bus trip to ledges one day. It turns out I discovered at that time that one of my graduate students. Was half American Indian. You know he you would never know by looking at him nor by his name. But he was from Oklahoma and he was half jerky. And so he had an in with the tame Indians. So he contacted them and they made an arrangement so that people could be taken over to Thamer. And they put on a show for him over there. Wonderful. And this fellow also knew somebody who was in the Oklahoma acquisition area for school supplies. And so when we needed carrying cases and. Labels for people and so forth he contacted this guy and we got them dirt cheap because this particular fellow news such as us your supplier that had an excess inventory. Oh yeah. And of course we were working on a tight budget and with all this transportation stuff anything like this was a help. So that was great. And then we had. One situation where we. We also decided to have a picnic one night. So I think it was Tuesday night we were going to have the picnic on Thursday night was the banquet. So we took him to a state park and they had a pig roast kind of thing. And of course they had beer. Not supposed to have beer in a state park. OK park ranger came along we told them what the situation was ignored marginalized. Wow sound like that was quite a. And then the last thing that came up that was completely unexpected. We got just before the meeting. Thing Started drive for the setup for the companies that were going to set up their equipment and displays and so forth. And we know that in the basement area of Carver There's a loading dock. So we figured fine. All they have do is come in come in there get on the elevator go up to the first floor and this area was right outside the first floor there. It turns out when that building was designed. They forgot to. Put in any provision for a door that was wider than a standard door. There were no double door opening doors. Wow. And somebody told us just before the meeting all they had a terrible time getting desks into Carver Hall for the offices because they could just not get them through the doorway to come into the building. Great. So some of the vendors had to take things apart to get them in. And then at the end take them apart to kind of back out again. Fortunately there were you know they liked the facility. Once they got it in so they weren't too upset by it. But oh all these things that you never think of. So was it a success in the end. Yeah. Oh it was. It went off quite well. Great people really liked that. We had. One of the things that they did for those that weren't attending meetings. They had angered Chase. I don't know whether you're familiar with her at all. She's an artist from radio that does sponge painting. We arranged for her to come in one day and for an afternoon she did one of these sponge painting sessions. And that really went off well. People because she ended up with a. Picture of a lighthouse that she did all was sponge painting and she was one of these that was very good at talking about what she was going to be doing and so she came across very well with the audience. So did they just watch your paint or did could they. Was she teaching them at the same time. She was primarily just giving them a demonstration video. There were children there and all ranges of ages because a number of these came with the husband or in some cases the wife that was going to go to the meeting. Okay now it sounds like that was it really. So it was an experience. Yeah I think if I were asked to do it again I would have said no I did it once and that's great. That's great. Any other stories you'd like to tell or any any. Any question that I forgot to ask for that I should have asked. I don't know of anything offhand. There's one other story I could tell that doesn't relate terribly much to stay. I'll go in please just to show how. Parochial. People are. You know I was as I said I was born and brought up in Connecticut and New England. A lot of people there don't travel much on a big travel for me was going to New York City. I mean Yankee fans I used to go to New York City and. Watch. Even back in the days when Joe DiMaggio was there. But when I decided to go to the University of Minnesota I left Connecticut driving out to Minnesota. I crossed into New York City crossed the Hudson River the first time I had ever been west of the Hudson. None of my family had ever been west of the Hudson River. Got into New Jersey. And I was gonna go down to the parkway the Marine Park and the. Not. The. Berkeley. Pennsylvania Turnpike. I'm trying to think of Pennsylvania Turnpike to head out west as other routes were all two lane and very slow so I had to cut through New Jersey and. Stopped in New Jersey. Got. Gas at a gas station there and of course in those days it was all attendance. You never had the self service. Even now in New Jersey they don't have cell service. And this guy started talking to me. I could hardly understand a word he said he had a terrible jersey. The thought went through my mind. Here I left Connecticut. I've gone to states and I can't understand anymore. No problem once I got was Jersey. Good. That's most good. I have something kind of similar happened when I went to college. There was a. Kid in my class from. Manhattan. Terrible New York accent and. You know I've never really heard strong regional accents before and when. The first couple months I knew. I. I thought he had a speech impediment. Oh poor guy. He just can't talk right. Well a little by little my ear adjusted and I realized. Yeah. Now I have a problem sometimes when I go back to the east coast. Especially if it's Massachusetts or something like that because they have a fertile sex and also. Okay well Bob I think that's it. Oh God. And. 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