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Raise it up. How's that? How's this? Is this better. Okay, as I was saying, my name's Scott Nicks and I'm with Latin America solidarity committee. One of the organizations that is sponsoring this event I have a few quick announcements before I turn you over to Marin Solomon, who is with the aims interfaith committee on central America. Another one of the sponsors of this event. In the back some of you were looking at the buttons and the t-shirts and such. We also have a petition we'd like you to sign on aid to the contras. And we also have some postcards that we'd like you to send to our Senator Chuck Grassley, urging him to vote for a bill that will be coming up to hand all aid to the contras. And while you're back there, I'd like you to pick up one of these green sheets. They're known as the peace calendar and they list some of the events that are coming up until the first week in February. I'm just gonna go over a few that are important. There's a meeting of the Latin America solidarity committee tomorrow night at 7:00 PM and 232. We'll be talking about strengthening the people the people context we just started with block on we get out so hope some of you can make it to that. There's a meeting on Thursday of this next week of the Progressive Action Coalition. The PAC is another co-sponsor of this event and we'll be talking about nuclear madness week coming up the second week in February and also February 1st, a Sunday, there'll be a meeting of the Aims Interfaith Comittee on central America. And that's at 2:00 PM in the United church of Christ. And they will be having a speaker, a teacher from Aims High I believe who was in Nicaragua this summer. So pick up one of these green sheets if you didn't get all that down. And now I think I'll turn the twisted microphone over to Marin Solomon.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. I'm glad to see you all here this evening. We have a real treat in store. I first heard about Charles Liteky when he was part of the second Witness for Peace delegation. I was part of the first Iowa peace delegation to Nicaragua. And last summer as you all may have remembered when the Contra aid passed and I felt that all of our work was for not Charlie and three other veterans became very creative and started a wonderful fast on the Capitol steps. Well, first Charles gave, as you know, was a a Vietnam chaplain and had been awarded the congressional medal of honor. And he returned this in protest and front of the Vietnam Memorial. And then later he and three other veterans started a fast to change our central American policy. And those of us who sort of halfway supported it by fasting one day a week, which was very little but we took a great deal of a sense of creative strength from what they were doing and what others were doing. And it was with a great deal of pleasure that I introduce Charles Liteky at this time. And we are also very pleased to have with him on this trip, his wife, Judy, and they have just moved from San Francisco in December to Washington DC where they can spend all of their time working on the great peace and justice issues of which we all share. Charles.\r\n\r\n- Thank you. I was just trying to find out where Judy is because she usually lets me know when I've come close to the end and I have about five minutes to go. So what we'll do is try to stop at least by nine o'clock here and open it up for questions. So if you'll let me know when it's about five minutes to nine, we can begin to wind up. There's so much to talk about in relation to US involvement in central America that we could go on discussing this for hours and hours. This happened to me one night up at the University Richmond Commonwealth and we just went on since we were living in Washington DC could go back that night to about 11 o'clock at night. And I'm happy to do that because I think we're talking about something very serious here. I don't think we're just talking about a little brush fire down in central America. That's happening in Nicaragua and in El Salvador I believe that we're talking about ultimately the survival of this planet, because I think there are deadly connections between US foreign policy in Nicaragua and El Salvador and with our relationship with the Soviet union. Maybe we'll mention a little bit of that tonight. I will invite you to ask any questions you would like to and also to share any of your own comments, your own insights. If you disagree with anything that I'm saying, please speak out because I would love to be proved wrong because I don't like the conclusions that I've reached about the direction in which our country or the leaders of our country are taking us. And if I'm wrong, when I can go back to San Francisco on retire as planned and continue my sailing lessons on the Bay. But when I became aware of what I regard to be the gravity of this current situation. And the fact that I am a Vietnam veteran and lived through that tragedy, I think heightens my awareness and my horror about what's happening there. And I'd also like to preface what I'm about to say because I get some reactions of this nature and one as recent as this morning. And I think this fellow happened to come in late but he said, \"I hate to hear anybody lambasting America, bashing America,\" you know and that's really not what I'm doing. If I didn't love this country, and if I hadn't loved this country all my life. I would have never went and risked my life in Vietnam and I would never be doing what I'm doing now but I don't think it's love to allow myself as a person to continue in any kind of sickness or illness which is affecting me physical or mental. I seek help for it. I seek, if I can't see what's wrong myself I seek to critique of someone else. And so what is with our organizations and our communities and our nation? I think if we really love our country and that's what I regard as patriotism, then we're not afraid to criticize it and correct the errors or the ills and go on as a result, of that trial and error, failure and correct process that we all go through in any kind of progress and build a greater country. So, I regard what I'm doing right now going around the country, sharing the truth of my personal experience in Vietnam and in central America. Plus the reading that I've done on the matter in the last two years plus the experience of many people who have lived and worked down in that area for years that I have every reason to trust the experience of professional people of Jesuit and Franciscan Priest, of Protestant ministers of Jewish rabbis, of teachers who've been in the area, nurses and doctors who've lived in the area who may have no reason to doubt. Who are going around this country at great material sacrifice to themselves speaking as I am doing. And I have no reason to think these people are trying to subvert the country or trying to dupe me or others into adopting a communist philosophy. I'd like to start out with a quote from a book called Turning the Tide by Noam Chomsky. Who is a professor of linguistics and a political analyst who teaches at MIT. In his introduction he says, we live entangled in webs of endless deceit but with a little effort its possible for us to extricate ourselves. And if we do, we will discover a world rather different from the one presented to us by a remarkably effective ideological system, a world which is uglier and even horrifying at times. He goes on to say, and I'll paraphrase this that if we dig a little deeper, we will find how we as individuals, wittingly or unwittingly contribute to the misery of the rest of the world. And I'm still discovering that myself. What struck me about this particular quote was not that we live entangled of webs of endless deceit because I, like a lot of other Americans have effect have accepted the fact that politicians from time to time lie to us or withhold truth from us. I never get too excited about it because in most cases it doesn't involve directly human lives. But in Vietnam, it did involve human lives. The lives of the Johnson administration and many of the military men who supported the war in Vietnam resulted in 58 to 60,000 young American lives somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 million Asian lives. Another 75,000, young American lives veterans who have taken their lives by their own hand in one form or another, since the end of the Vietnam war. Plus around 200,000 wounded in Vietnam. And God only knows how many psychically wounded or are still being discovered by veterans counselors. All of this related to a lie by our political leaders of that era, right? I didn't realize I was being lied to at that time. I was not a youngster when I went to Vietnam, I was 35 years old. I should have been, I say to myself a little less naive and a little more mature, but I wasn't. I think I was every bit as naive and as trusting as the 18 and 19 year old men that I went into support. And I'd like to try to give you a rationale for that. I was born in American into a military family that was also Catholic. These represent three subcultures of my early youth. Most of my life was lived aboard Naval basis. My father was in the Navy for 32 years. Most of the time I saw men dressed in some kind of a uniform. So, the military was a very valid way of life for me coming up. Also, I belong to a church which admitted then and still admits of and I respect it for those who embrace it, a just war theory. And without going in to all of the ramifications of the just war theory, basically, it's this that we as individuals and as communities and as nations have every right to defend ourselves against another person or another group of people that we regard as unjust aggressors. We also have the obligation in using violence to overcome violence to establish some sort of proportionality between the violence that is committed against us and the violence that we use to stop a violent act. So there should be some proportionality. So for instance, the bishops Catholic bishops of this country, have come out with a pastoral related to the morality of the possession and use of nuclear armament. And we won't go into that, that time. I do not accept that 'cause I don't see how there can ever be any proportionality established in the use of nuclear weapons myself. And if we are not going to use them then how can we possess them? Morally speaking. But that's just a little bit about the just war theory which I once accepted as part of my life. The other, principles that I accepted from my American culture was that I was raised to believe that this country of ours had historically been around the world, the defender of freedom and democracy and the Liberty of all people. I believe that we actually were the bastions of freedom that our constitution and our bill of rights and declaration of independence would be applied to the rest of the world. And this is why we were so involved around the world. Subsequently, I found that that's not true. All of the history that I received as a child , taught me then both in grade school and in high school. And I never was much of a student of history myself the way it was taught to me, it was taught in the forms of names and dates of famous people. But since that time I've been involved in a different kind of history, which some of you may have read or be reading now, as I am. And it's Howard Zinn's history, of people's history of the United States. From the point of view of the people who have suffered. The oppressed, rather than from the point of view of the governors or the rulers or the policymakers. There's also another very good history around out that I would recommend by Paige Smith. Who's written a seven volume history up to the 1940s. From the time this country was founded until 1940. But these historians tell us, that this country was indeed founded upon the blood of a lot of innocent people that there was a lot of genocide of the Indians practice that all through the relations of this government, with the Indians, for instance 371 treaties have resulted and 371 treaties have been broken. And we are still trying to exploit the Indians in the big mountain affair which some of you may be familiar with. So, when there is a doubt cast upon our ideals by one source or another, a book, a person who tells us something dramatically different from what we believe in. And especially if it's something that we hold precious this is very shaking psychically. Now, having participated in the conflict in Vietnam out of patriotic motives that I've spoken of and come away alive is distinct from many who did not. I was very grateful, but at the same time I will say, that all of these lives had to be sacrificed but at the end of the war when I left Vietnam and I was a Catholic chaplain in Vietnam gave full moral support to what we were doing. But when I came back, I was still not convinced to the fact that our cause there was not a just one. I did not have a conscience raising experience in Vietnam. Like two of the fellows that I fasted with Brian Wilson and George Meiser were also Vietnam veterans still. They had this while they were in Vietnam they saw the horror of it all there and they were able to make connections that I was not able to do. I felt bad because we had asked young men to participate in a no win war. I don't know how many of you have seen the movie Rambo but I went to see it because I protested against it in San Francisco. But one of the lines that Rambo says to his former commander he says, \"Well sir, are you gonna let us win this time?\" Yeah. I could identify with that because the way we were fighting the war in Vietnam it was a no-win war. Had it not been for public opinion. We could still be there. So when I got back from Vietnam, like a lot of veterans, I tried to put it behind me to compartmentalize it in a place on the back roads of my memory never to be called forth again. And was successfully able to do that. And I was trying to help other Vietnam veterans, who were suffering from drug addiction after the conflict was over then I went into the veterans administration, worked as a counselor there for a while, living in San Francisco. But then, my wife asked me one night to go to the home of a friend of ours and listen to the story of a Salvadoran refugee. I somewhat reluctantly accepted the invitation, went along with her and spent an hour listening to this little girl tell her story of escape from El Salvador up through Guatemala into Mexico, finally across the river into LA and up to San Francisco. It was an incredible story of death and torture, the torture of her father of such a macabre nature that I don't want to go into it. And if anybody's interested in any of these horror stories please read a credited accounts of these by Amnesty International, which is a fact finding group that even the administration will sometimes respect. But what bothered me most about this story of hers was that her father said, that he was sure there was an American present at his torture session. And then I began to think back to Vietnam. I began to think back to project Phoenix in Vietnam in which we killed 25 Vietnamese peasants who many of whom were killed indiscriminately in an effort to destroy, we call the Viet Cong infrastructure. We tortured, through the Green Beret, the CIA advisories capacities another 36,000. That is written up in Richard White's book called The Morass, which I'd encourage you to read. If we wanna talk about human rights abuses and what not the war crimes that haven't been prosecuted that occurred in Vietnam. We did prosecute people for Malay and I think that's to our credit but there was more than one Malay in Vietnam. And before it slips my mind, I would encourage you to go and see the movie Platoon if you haven't seen it already and it'll just give you a slice of life in Vietnam and it's sort of a capsulation of all the atrocities that we committed, the different kinds. It's not the ultimate movie, I don't think on Vietnam. 'Cause it doesn't go into the history of Vietnam, our involvement that proceeded the actual sending of troops down there or what happened thereafter. But I think it's the best things we've had so far. And thank God we're getting beyond Rambo and movies like Missing are not missing something like a dangerous mission or something where former Vietnam veterans go into rescue supposed POW's in the area. So, as I said I successfully put this all behind me until that Salvadoran refugee began to remind me again of Vietnam. And I had to hear more stories. One was not enough. So I heard three or four and then began to read and the first book that came to my attention was Dr. Charlie Clements book, witness to War. Dr. Charlie Clements was a Vietnam veteran, an air force pilot. The second in his class at the air force Academy. Had a brilliant promising career in the air force ahead of him. But after flying 50 missions in Vietnam and carrying away some of the dead bodies of the young GI's, he finally had enough of it. And asked to be relieved of duty. They thought he was crazy to give up. They thought he was just suffering from combat fatigue to give up a promising career like this. So they sent him back state side and put him into a military mental institution. When they finally released him and discharged from the service he went on to embrace nonviolence through Quakerism and became a doctor and started working in third world countries finally ended up, in the early eighties, in Salinas, California. Where he was serving in a free clinic, there is Spanish speaking people there. And he began to notice some strange marks on the bodies of some of these people. And finally, they admitted that they were from El Salvador or from Guatemala and had been tortured. So, he had to go down and find out for himself. And the way he chose to do this was to put a 70 pound back pack of medical supplies and make contact with the guerillas in the conflicted areas and go in and serve them medically. He said that he made it very plain that he would not carry a weapon that he embraced nonviolence. So the whole time he was there for a year of traveling around with these people, that he never saw a Russian. he never saw a Cuban and found only one antiquated Russian weapon. Most of the weapons these people were using were M 16's captured from the ambush of the Salvadorian army or weapons that they had bought from some of the officers in the Salvadorian army, that our tax money is still paying for. I encourage you to read that book. Another book that was very influential in my metamorphosis was Ray Bonner's Weakness and Deceit which goes in detail. He's a lawyer turned journalist in detail, the weakness and the deceit of the Carter administration preceding the Reagan administration. So we can't blame this all on Ronald Reagan and his administration. And that's not what I'm here to do. I don't consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat at this point 'cause to tell you the truth, basically I don't see all that much difference. In some of them I do. There are some very Sterling people there in my opinion, in our government. And they've given me great hope. People like Bob Muller which you probably never heard of from Long Island New York or Lane Evans from Illinois. But they're just incidentally, Vietnam veterans. They've tasted a little bit of war and they're not going to readily let this happen again. But after reading that, I was still working at the veterans administration. And I said to my wife, I think I've got to quit my job and go down there myself and I just have to find out more for myself. So I saved up some money and was already to go with witness for peace, which you may have heard of it. As a matter of fact, if anybody's interested in going on a delegation with Witness for Peace there's one coming up in April and the deadline to get ready for that is February 13th but we have some material on that table inn the back. I recommended as a good organization to go down with 'cause they do take you out to meet the people as well as the officials in government. And you live with them, you pick coffee with them cotton or beans or whatever's going on at that time. And you really get to feel for the people, for whom the revolution was fought. And many of whom fought the revolution themselves. But Witness for Peace, put me on the list. And I got bumped off the list twice, though I was getting a little bit discouraged after I'd quit my job. I had the money to go. I said, well, I'll get together with some veterans and go down. We'll get up our own delegation and go down there. And about that time, Dr. Charlie Clements called me and asked me if I wouldn't go. So providentially, it worked out perfectly. Go down to El Salvador, Nicaragua and Honduras for a two-week trip with 11 other Vietnam veterans. One of whom was a nurse. So, we did that. All of these veterans had had combat experience or had seen the results of combat in Vietnam. So they were not naive people about war or about weaponry or some of them were former intelligence officers or about a cleanse for war. After three days in El Salvador a visiting with our embassy officials, the representatives of the Salvadorian government, the political leaders, the representatives of the military in El Salvador the peasants out in the countryside the mothers of the disappeared are visiting the hospital there in El Salvador, I was emotionally decimated and couldn't wait to get out of the country. Now we went silent for three days, from sun up to midnight. And that's not enough to make anybody an expert. I'm not trying to even come across as an expert but it is enough to give you a taste of what's going on in the country. Particularly if you go to the Basilica in El Salvador in San Salvador, where there are 450 refugees hold up because they are afraid to go out in public because they are suspects, these are women and children and old men, of having collaborated in some way with the guerrillas. 450 people jammed into an auditorium just about this size, adjacent to the church there. Only there were no walls, it was open air So they could cook their food there as well and wash their clothes But I couldn't wait to get out of El Salvador. And we got into Nicaragua was like breathing fresh air again, there was not the tension in Nicaragua that there was in El Salvador. We didn't see, a preponderance of military presence on almost every corner as there was in El Salvador. We saw actually very few military people around the Managua area. And the people just seem to be moving about a lot more freely and laughing. And you could go out at night in Nicaragua without fear, wander all over the town if you wanted to. There was a joke there, that the embassy in Nicaragua is the only American embassy in the world, where the US ambassador can go out by himself for a walk and not worry about being assassinated. So when we got to Nicaragua, we went on a similar tour public officials peasants the whole bit. And I didn't get the idea that this was such a tremendously oppressed society, that the state department was calling a totalitarian regime. At that time, the principal was still in operation. But, I did get the idea that there was a revolution going on there at that time, a cardboard city across from the American embassy was growing. That reminded me of Vietnam people coming in from the outline vulnerable areas, seeking safety in the big city and having no homes to go to, they start making homes out of cardboard and plastic. So I had a chance to go and visit cooperatives there, to visit and see the effects of the land reform in El Salvador. To talk with opposition, political parties there. To talk with some disaffected merchants in the market. But on that trip, no one that we talked to who disagreed or was disaffected with the policies of the Sandinista government said that they would prefer the contras. And then we went up into the mountains and saw people working on coffee plantations in a cooperative way. We learned about hospitals, aid stations that had been destroyed by the contras. Teachers that had disappeared or had been murdered, doctors and nurses who had been murdered. Some women and children who had been blown up in trucks when the roads were mined. But still there was this feeling of hope in Nicaragua that they were trying to do something different. What is different? They didn't want a totally capitalistic society like the United States or the Somoza regime from which they had been delivered by the revolution. They wanted to try something different. And there were those in the Sandinista government who had studied the principles of Marxism, mainly the principles directed toward a more equitable distribution of wealth. And here you are taking a young government with a country in tremendous debt. With thousands of displaced people with a medical and a health system there was which was practically non-existent and people dying from simple things like diarrhea, dehydration. And so they set out to build this new country. And they said, what they wanted was a mixed economy. They wanted some private enterprise and they wanted some government control. They wanted a land reform and they wanted a constitutional government and free elections. They began to do this right from the beginning. Now in our minds, back around 1981 as far as Nicaragua was concerned in 80. We saw them drifting more toward Marxism and control over the people. Similar to what we judged to be present in Cuba then was acceptable to us. Their idea, for a new non-aligned nation with a mixed economy, with so much government control it was not acceptable to the United States. So we had to set out to try to destroy it. How are we gonna do this? The people were not ready for another revolution. They just been through one. There was no broad base support among the people who could affect the revolution but there was this group of escaped former Somoza national gardener. They had gone into Honduras, they had gone into El Salvador. And at that time they were mainly involved in Bandra treat to survive. And they had this idea that one day they would go back in and reconquer the government, take it all over again. That was their dream. Well, our CIA with the permission of the administration began to capitalize on this. They began to form a new fighting force to train, to supply and resupply them in Honduras and somehow or rather to convince the Honduran government to play host to these people on their borders. So this is what happened over a period of years. All the time, this was going on our government was telling us our state department was saying and people like Elliot Abrams was saying, \"We do not want to overthrow the Sandinista government, all we want to do is put some pressure on them to bring them to the negotiating table and help them to get back to a democracy, which is acceptable to us. And that's what the story was. And also we claimed that arms were flowing. The Nicaragua was exporting their revolution to El Salvador. Well, the CIA agent who was in charge of monitoring that flow of arms from El Salvador to Nicaragua his name is David MacMichael. And he defected from the CIA and now goes around the country telling the true story of the CIA involvement in that area. And if you haven't had a chance, please invite him to speak along with John Stockwell or Ralph McGehee or Phil Redhinger. These are all CIA people who are, so to speak, coming out of the closet. The conscience is finally got to them. They see the lies themselves. They know better than anybody else what propaganda and lies are all about because they've had to manufacture it. And they can tell you some very chilling stories about our government involvement, CIA involvement all over the world, all back through history. Through the history of the CIA, to the world war II. So that was a lie. Since 1981, there have been no transfer of arms or flow of arms from Nicaragua to El Salvador to export the revolution there. El Salvador doesn't need the help of Nicaragua. They're doing fine on their own. And on the aid that comes to them from refugees up in this country, there is a flow of money from the refugees who come up here and who are faithful to the people they've left behind. A lot of money flows from here by the people who are working and below, what is it, a basic wage pay and sending a sacrifice and to send their money back down there. The administration also lied about the MIG event. When Nicaragua was supposed to be bringing in MIGS from the Soviet union, or what in the world was Nicaragua gonna do with MIGS. The minute that Nicaragua crosses over the border or acts in any way aggressively toward Costa Rica or Honduras or Guatemala or any country down there, they're gonna be wiped off the face of the map. And we'll be using the real friendship pack to do it. So-called legitimately. So Nicaragua, why would Nicaragua risk that regardless of how big an army or how many people they have underarms? But they don't, they don't answer arguments like this. Either in our state department or in our embassy in Nicaragua. So that was another lie. They also had the temerity to lie about the pulps approbation of US policy in Nicaragua. They recanted on that the following day. They've lied about the CIA's involvement in the overflights of Nicaragua and the dropping off of arms that's coming out now and will continue to come out. When testifies they've lied about the Iran scam. So when this government of ours lies to us about its presence there, about its policies there, why should I believe anything it says about the oppressive nature of the Nicaraguan government? I should, at least it seems to me doubt it. And I should at least go out and talk to people who have been down there who have spent much of their lives working there about the oppressiveness of this government. And I'm not saying that there are not human rights abuses that go on in Nicaragua. And I am not a champion of the Sandinista regime. I don't have to be, I can be perfectly neutral because I don't pay taxes down there. I don't support that government. I used to pay taxes here and an wage, some of my tax money has been applied to purchase those weapons that are going down there to destroy life. So I'm responsible as an American citizen to criticize this government and to help correct it, right? So when people say to me what about the Sandinista's or what about Afghanistan? So all those things are same, I have to do what I am primarily responsible for and I will criticize the Soviet union for its involvement in Afghanistan and atrocities being committed there. But I think we have to tend to clean up our own house first and take care of first things first. And that's the involvement in our government in chicanery and lives. So, after I found all of this out and came home I just continued to read and went on a public speaking tour around the country with Dr. Charlie Clements. And then I went to on another trip, six months later to Nicaragua exclusively this time and spent two weeks with Witness for Peace people working with the Nicaraguan people, talking to the peasants. But I could see that the embargo that we imposed upon these people and the guerrilla warfare of the countries, but this was having an effect a very deleterious effect on the economy and in some cases on the morale of the people there. And I came back the second time from Nicaragua even more determined to do more if I could to help bring this to an end. And one of the things that led to that believe it or not was an interview that we the Witness for Peace delegation had laid into a cold night in a mountain village of in Northwestern Nicaragua. And this woman who had lost two of her sons and her husband in the war, had one son left. And I think she had one dress left that she was wearing. And she said to us, go home. she said, and put your hand on the chest of president Reagan. She knew his name. I never met a peasant in Nicaragua who didn't know the name of our president. So put your hand on his chest and tell him to stop killing us. 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Well, when the word got out around the nation, the response was overwhelming. After 47 days, we felt that it would be irresponsible for us to continue without at least stopping for awhile, to see if we couldn't join a protest movement that is very much alive. And not to necessarily to be leaders in that movement, but to join with the people who are working so hard to bring this to an end. The other two fasters have chosen to take their life risking situation down to Nicaragua and serve as ambulance drivers and truck drivers along those roads close to the border that are being mined now and that have resulted in the deaths and the maimings of many Nicaraguans and even internationals. So that's what Brian Wilson, one of the fasters and Duncan Murphy will be doing. They're trying to take a first delegation of veterans down in mid February. They'll be opening it up to citizens who would like to join in the future as well. I've chosen to go on protesting from the Capitol Steps along with my wife, Judy, and a solid core of committed people in Washington, DC. We feel that it's so serious to keep the truth of this matter and to keep challenging our government to truth and honesty and compassion in government that we moved from San Francisco to Washington, DC, where God has blessed us with a very nice house. And we can offer hospitality to protesters and peace people who are demonstrating and doing civil disobedience. We have a couple of people in our house now. But we feel it's very important to be out there with signs and loudspeaker systems proclaiming what we see to be the truth. If we're wrong and there anybody here thinks that we're wrong, please tell me so that I can go back to San Francisco because I don't wanna be doing this, believe me. I don't think anybody does. I don't think any of us here tonight want to go through a lifestyle change. If we have marketable talent in this country, we're very blessed because we can live fairly good lives. You know, Judy and I had plans for $130/40,000 home. We had jobs that would support the kind of payments we'd have to make on a mortgage in San Francisco. We had all kinds of, I think, legitimate, materialistic dreams that many people do in this country, but I'm not willing to have my lifestyle supported by the lives and deaths of innocent people elsewhere. How is that happening? Well, with my tax money that goes into the government and the government gives out contracts to the munitions industry and this money ends up not coming back into the economy, but going into the pockets of high tech military organizations or corporations. Noam Chomsky, if you ever get a chance to hear him says, \"This is the way the rich in this country get the money from the poor, through the military industrial complex.\" Because as long as they can convince even poor people in this country, that we are being threatened by the great communist horde from the East that is now establishing a beachhead on our continent. Even poor people are willing to sacrifice, some certainly middle-class people. What did our president and what does the state department appeal to? They appeal to our basic instincts of fear and the metaphors that the president used in his last attempt to seduce the American people in the Congress were so bizarre that members of his own party told him to knock it off. The Red Sea lapping on the shores of Arlington, Texas and so forth, they're coming over, Red's coming over and hoards across the Rio Grande into our country. The refugees are indeed coming. There's a million here now at least or very close to that. We have 100 in the Bay Area alone and our president calls them economic refugees. Where were all these people before 1980, 1981, they weren't coming... I mean, the economy down there was just as bad if not worse than it is now. So what really troubles me is that I see it happening again. It already is another Vietnam and I didn't think we'd have an opportunity to stop it, but the downing of Hassan Moises and the Iran scam is helping us. And there is a possibility that this Congress of ours just may put a halt on the remaining 40 million. that is to go down sometime after February 15, when our president is scheduled to, not necessarily on the 15th, but sometime thereafter to make a statement about the willingness of the Sandinista regime to come to the negotiating table. And I'm sure he's going to say that in spite of the fact that we have increased our military pressure down there by $60 million, the Sandinistas will still not come to the negotiating table. Well, I'd like to read for you a gist of this, an article in the Washington Post, just the first few lines of it that came out on January the 20th. This comes from Managua. \"Eight Latin American, foreign ministers and the heads of the United Nations and the organization of American States launched a major Central American peace initiative today amid us concerns that they are taking advantage of a scandal to weaken Reagan administration.\" They're accusing people who want to employ a peace initiative called the Contadora peace initiative of taking advantage of their chicanery. I mean, this is the kind of Orwellian logic that this administration is into today, so look for that. As talk begins to develop about the possible success of the Contadora process, look for the administration language like that of Elliot Abrams to keep repeating. Abrams has accused the Contadora group of trying to impose a fraudulent treaty. Now, why would they want to impose a fraudulent treaty that would not bring democracy to Nicaragua and therefore fails to ensure peace? He has charged that the Contadora group pressures the four pro US states, here's the pro US states, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras and Guatemala, all of whom are economic dependence of the United States. A Mexican diplomat, one of the Contadora countries rejected the criticisms calling Abraham statements, \"A clumsy expression of political arrogance.\" And I believe in it . So what do you do? What do you do if you believe this is true? That you're a member of a country whose government is really wreaking havoc on the poor people of this world, especially those in emerging third world countries. What do you do? That's the same question I ask myself. My answers have come mainly from prayer and fasting. Fasting is one of the most radical, spiritual, personally spiritual exercises that I know of. And whenever I pray for guidance, it comes in one form or another. And if anybody's familiar with this, you know that you have to pray first, maybe do a little fasting as a form of prayer and then wait for an answer and it'll come. It might not come on the day or the time you asked for it, but it'll come in the form possibly of a book, a person, or maybe even interior enlightenment. But I believe that all of us can do something because we are the government. This administration is going to change. It's gonna be replaced by another one in two years. Who's it gonna be? What kind of people are they gonna be? What kind of people are gonna represent the congressional districts in Iowa? Well, that depends on us. Senator Moynihan from New York, one day came up to the Steps while we were fasting, he says, \"You should not be lambasting us, you should be lambasting the people,\" he says, \"they're the ones who put us here. I mean there's a certain amount of truth in that, but I don't believe in lambasting anyone. I think that most of us are sincere about the candidates that we have elected, but also think that there's a great many of us that just don't know what's going on because we've got too many other things to be concerned about to get on with our own lives and they are legitimate concerns. I didn't know what was going on back in 1982 or '83, I was getting married in those years, you know? All I knew about what was happening is what I saw on the evening news. So I'm not trying to criticize anybody. Yeah, I actually could criticize myself. So where was I? But the thing is, I've been awakened now. Now I have an obligation, now I know the truth. What am I gonna do about it? The truth has made me free to act in one way or another. I can run away from it, I can look for another country. I can find myself an island someplace, but unfortunate... I think it's fortunately that the principles that I try to live my life by biblical and the principles of this country of justice for all people would leave me burdened with a tremendous guilt if I didn't try to do something and I couldn't live with. I think we can bring about a change if we want to. We can put people in Washington to represent us who have heart and compassion as well as head. And I think they're over the 50% mark now in just head and no heart. How do we do this? Well we look for those candidates, maybe somebody here will want to run, maybe. Think about who could run in these districts to replace our North American contras and that's what I call them. Everybody who voted for contra aid has identified themselves just as president Reagan did. He said, \"I am a contra too.\" They've identified themselves with one of the most brutal group of mercenaries that has existed in Central America. So they're responsible for this. So I said, \"Well, we have to get rid of the North American contras and get some people with some heart and head in there.\" I've run just a little bit over with my time, but I would like to read just a very short poem from a Salvadoran poet. He's now in this country, in a sanctuary. His name is Agustin Diaz. It's called \"The Refugees Hymn.\" \"They asked me why I came over here. I answered that I thought perhaps I'd find the peace and tranquility that in my country doesn't exist. My country is a hell. They drop napalm. They destroy the countryside. They kill my people. They saw death, To come to this land, I crossed fields and cities but crossing the border wasn't easy for me without suffering and cruelty. The end of my suffering has not yet come because for the government, I am not a refugee. Their henchmen pursue me. The famous immigration police run after me. What bloodhounds as if they were dogs and the refugees were rabbits. It is a disgrace this Yankee government. It exploits humanity and respects not even its own laws. It persecutes the refugees with brutal fury.\" This young man left an adopted daughter and his mother there and suffers a lot of guilt for that. Do we have any questions now, I'd like to maybe like to stand up for a moment and take a stretch, I've been sitting... If you do, please feel free to do so. Any questions or remarks of your own, or please?\r\n\r\n- Did you get any type of written response or verbal response from the administration during the attack, any type a memo or anything?\r\n\r\n- Not from the administration, but we did get many visits from congressmen. Senator Harkin was very supportive and continues to be. So Senator Kerry is another one. We put out a statement that was endorsed by 80 congressmen and senators at that time, that they would not let the contra aid issue die. That was before Hassan Moises and the Iran scam. So they have more fuel now for the battle lies ahead for them. Please.\r\n\r\n- You said that in '81 or '82, you were aware of some of the atrocities going on. What did you attribute this awareness to? And after that, what made you see the light and realize what's going on?\r\n\r\n- The beginning of it was that little Salvadoran refugee and her incredible story of death and torture and her journey from El Salvador up through, you know, finally up to the United States. And also shortly after that, the parish that I belong to St.John of God, a little community Catholic Church in San Francisco, decided that we would investigate the possibility of becoming a sanctuary church. And so my wife and I volunteered to be part of the education committee for that. So we had to do a lot of reading and the reading we went beyond the reasons for the refugees being here to the causes. I mean beyond the symptoms to the causes. And so now we have to try to correct the causes as well as take care of the refugees.\r\n\r\n- Did you go on to be the sanctuary?\r\n\r\n- Yes we did. After nine months of consideration and education, the church voted 91% in favor of becoming a sanctuary. And that's where they're at right now.\r\n\r\n- For about a year now, I've read and heard very little about El Salvador in the media. Can you tell me why?\r\n\r\n- Well, because most of the attention has been on Nicaragua and that hasn't been all that much, but I don't think that the major media wants to cover what's going on in El Salvador. And you could say why, I could give you my opinion why, because I think the major media including some major newspapers is controlled by the moneyed interest in this country. A lot of people don't agree with me on that but it just makes sense to me. It's part of the disinformation campaign or policy that's been going on for a long time in this country. This is one way that the wealthy elite in this country can control us. That is by not giving us information. They can't control us with physical terror, the way it is done in Central and South American countries, but they can control us by keeping us in the dark. And this is why they use the CIA so effectively, you know, they used it to overthrow a legitimate government in Guatemala, and in Vietnam, and in Chile and now they're trying to do it again in Nicaragua. But I think we're finally catching on, you know, Vietnam chastened us and it should have chastened at least the Vietnam veterans and the families who realized that what happened there was a lie. And so I believe there's an awful lot of media control. Most of our major newspapers are syndicated, aren't they? You know, I mean, they're controlled by, you know, one or two corporations. So when we talked to journalists down in El Salvador about this very question, they said, \"Look, when you send up article after article and it never gets printed, sooner or later you learn what they want to hear and that's what you send up. Unless they happen to be very brave and expose the truth like Ray Bonner did in his book, \"Weakness and Deceit\" and some of his reporting back in that era and he lost his job. But that doesn't make much difference cause I think he made a lot of money on his book. And he's now doing one, it's gonna come out this summer with one on the Philippines. I'm looking forward to learning all about that too. Please, sir.\r\n\r\n- Is the Catholic Church somewhat divided on the contra aid issue or what's happening in Nicaragua?\r\n\r\n- The Catholic Church in this country or the Catholic Church in Nicaragua?\r\n\r\n- No, I mean from the oak valley in Nicaragua.\r\n\r\n- The word I got, and this is sort of, by the underground grapevine of religious in the Catholic Church, and she said that, she understood that the Pope told the US ecclesiastical structure to lay off of Nicaragua. So we don't have any strong condemnations by the Catholic clergy in this country of the atrocities of the contras and that's very sad to me. But we do have some... I think some stellar and courageous ecclesiastics like Hunthausen from Washington, Gumbleton from Detroit, what's his name, Arthur Sullivan from Richmond, Des Moines, are we still in a Des Moines diocese here?\r\n\r\n- No.\r\n\r\n- At least in Iowa. So the other thing is that, that there are two churches in Nicaragua. The same as there are two churches here, well, two or three churches, you know, poor, middle-class and wealthy here, but there are two in Nicaragua, the rich and the poor. And the wealthy still support and the cardinal there still supports, is more in tune with the wealthy elements there. That he is with the church of the poor, but the church of the poor in Nicaragua is I think, alive and very healthy. And when people say, well, what about the expulsion of priests from Nicaragua? Well, these priests spoke out against the revolution. If the priests or nuns or anybody in Mexico speaks out against the revolution there or the government in Mexico, they'll be asked to leave. When they speak out against the government in El Salvador, they aren't asked to leave, they're murdered or they disappear. So, you know, when this government of ours tries to be the standard bearer of freedom and democracy and against human rights abuses and they cry out against the oppression in Nicaragua and say, \"Well, okay, that's good we do that,\" but what about Guatemala, what about El Salvador, they don't wanna talk about that. They say, \"Well, we're making progress there. It's slow, but it may take another 30 years.\" But you know, so, please.\r\n\r\n- What sort of reaction do you have from Veterans of Foreign Wars organization?\r\n\r\n- The Veterans of Foreign Wars pretty well left me alone and other veterans within the peace movement, but there is a strong veterans peace movement going now. We have a coalition of Veterans for Peace which is comprised of about 13 or 14 nonviolent veterans organizations, it's very encouraging around the nation. I belong to that and participate in it. Many of these folks will be going down to Nicaragua as part of that peace team. I think it's very important that we do go into the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign War. And of course there is that one stellar post and if there are any veterans here, I'd encourage you, if you're into peace work as a veteran to get in touch with them in Santa Cruz, it's called the Bill Motto post. They're the only Veterans of Foreign War post who comes out publicly and disagrees with US policy in Central America and they're gonna help to sponsor this peacekeeping team down there. So I hope that you're not seeing me as one who is bashing America or even bashing the government. I'm criticizing it and it's my country, it's my government . I have every right to do that and I think all of us have a right to do that. And I don't wanna do this in any cynical, sarcastic way. We pray for the president and his cabinet everyday in the Capitol Steps because I believe that there is such a thing as divine intervention. It happened in the early history of the church to one of the greatest persecutors of the church of that day and that was a guy named Saul. And on the way to Damascus to persecute the Christians, he was knocked off of his horse, struck blind, had to be led around for about four or five days by other people. It was a great act of humility for this proud man. So Paul was stopped on the way to Damascus, who knows, maybe Reagan can be stopped within the next two years on the way to Nicaragua. If we can't do it, let's start off a prayer, you know, God do for us what we can't do for ourselves but help us to do for ourselves. Give us the courage, and strength, and the love to do it. And the beautiful part about what I'm doing now as opposed to sailing on the Bay in San Francisco and feeling the freedom, being in a sailboat and riding on the wind, is seeing the beauty of God and the faces of peacemakers around this country. And of young people who have already embraced at an early age in their life nonviolence. You're in for a very exciting life. I've only recently, about a year ago, made a full embracement of nonviolence and my life is exciting everyday. Cause I never know when I'm going to be called to step into a violent situation, that's what I'm committed to do. People think that a nonviolent person runs away from violence. No, he's committed to go through to it in the Gandhian sense, to step between the elements of hostility and take the blows rather than see your brothers or sisters hurt one another. Even step into verbal hostilities and try to calm the situation because you think that you've calmed it within yourself. I'm just a novice in this area but I know it's very exciting. Please, sir.\r\n\r\n- I just have to ask, in terms of your observation of contra aid or whatever you wanna call that in Nicaragua, are there enough laws that have been broken in your estimation to warrant an impeachment by Congress?\r\n\r\n- I think there's enough to warrant an impeachment, more than enough to warrant an impeachment, but I doubt whether there will be one. I mean, I would, you know, the man's only got two more years. It would probably take at least a year to bring about for the impeachment process to go through. So, you know, I ask myself, where do I wanna put my energy? The main thing that I wanna do now is stop the war, stop the killing. So I'd rather put my energy into that and I think a lot of others would too. I just think in view of the short time left four years and he, you know, he had just come out... going into his second term, that would be different. But thanks to some real possibilities of changing things now. I'm looking forward to 1988 and choosing the best candidate we can possibly find for 1988. But also I have to honestly say, because of the people we have in both parties and their insensitivity to human life, whether or not the best thing might begin to work in another party, a third party of some kind, is that feasible? Is it doomed to failure? No. And look to the year 2000, start to build now, you know, with people like the people I've met around this country who are dedicated to truth and compassion in government. I haven't made that decision yet myself because I say to myself, how can a person and most of our congressmen and senators fall into this category, how can a person who allows him or herself to accrue so much personal wealth and far more than what they need for their daily lives in terms of material needs, place to live, cars, so forth, all of the things in our materialistic society, when people don't even have enough to eat and don't have decent places to live in our own country. And then these people go into government and they're supposed to make policies that affect the common good. So I use as a measuring rod for potential candidates, their lifestyle. You know, I've heard Governor Cuomo of New York gave some beautiful speeches but I don't know about his personal lifestyle yet, I'd like to find that out, cause I think that's gonna bear out in the policies that a person makes. And how many of us are willing to pair down our lifestyles to work for peace cause I think there's a lot of us and that's what's beautiful, you know. One good, easy way to do this, if you want more money to help send to organizations that are working for peace is to fast one day a week. You send $5 or so, you'll save $5 that way. Or you can drop back to a Central American diet if you like meat, rice and beans, like they do. It helps you get in contact with what they're doing, it's a lot less expensive and you get all the protein that you need. I've been doing this since Thanksgiving, that was my last meat meal and I don't feel any worse, I don't feel any better... physically , but there's a lot of really creative ways of getting more and more involved. And if you're a person of faith and conscience and you have the slightest feeling that you're not doing everything that you can, I would encourage you to pray and fast for a couple of days and ask the great employer of people who want to work for peace, whether you call this employer, the force or the source or the great spirit, or God the father or mother, that entity, I believe will tell you exactly what to do. Won't leave you unemployed. Doesn't offer any unemployment benefits. Thank you very much.\r\n\r\n- I wanna thank you all for coming and thank Scott next to me, that American in the medium lectures and the progressive students group also and we all have plenty of work to do. Don't forget to write your postcards to Senator Grassley and we'll hope to see you all again. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/46849/file/120234#t=0.0,1980.89143"}]}]}]}