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I am Mark Witherspoon. I'm a lecturer in the Greenlee School and advisor to the Iowa State Daily and Ethos Magazine and the Hooray Magazine. And I get the privilege of honoring my heroes up here. Not honoring 'em but just introducing 'em. Petition is what we call, I thought was gonna be the forgotten freedom in the First Amendment. According to surveys going back to 1997, annual surveys by the First Amendment Center, on the state of the First Amendment, only one in 100 Americans can name petition as a freedom in the First Amendment. So we as the First Amendment committee started looking for, how were we going to have a whole day devoted to petition? We thought we might have some problems finding the speakers. Fortunately that wasn't the case. We have petition going every which way in Iowa. And the beautiful part of petition is there's so many ways to go about it. As you know, petition and assembly are kind of related. Assembly, we can all get together and talk about what we don't like, what we do like, whatever. Petition is similar but opposite in the fact that you can have a minimum of one person who doesn't like what the government is doing and that one person can go and do what he or she wants to do to tell the government, \"Hey, I don't like what you're doing.\" It can be a petition with signatures, it can be a lawsuit, it can be a petition to remove people from office, and there's other ways to go about this, to tell 'em what you think. I want to quickly introduce the panelists up here and then I'm gonna let them have it. But before I introduce them, I wanna introduce one other person who I think is very integral here. Actually, I'll introduce two but the other one is not here at the moment. Clark Kaufman, a reporter at the, not just a reporter but one of the best reporters in Iowa who works for The Des Moines Register, did a series of stories, ah, the other one just walked in, did a series of stories in The Register earlier last year about Cass County and its auditor and sheriff doing some things people thought might not be exactly honest. Clark, would you stand up? And for this series, he was the finalist for the Pulitzer Prize, which is the, as far as journalists are concerned, that's the Oscars. So I think we need a round of applause for Clark Kauffman. He epitomizes what we at the Greenlee School consider great journalism which is informing the public and educating the public about information, about issues that they need to know so they can make better decisions about how to improve their community. And in this case, it worked to perfection. And I'm gonna let Mr. Filmer talk about that. We have three cases tonight that we are gonna be talking about. We have Arlen Nichols and Mark Gannon who successfully sued the Iowa State Foundation to open their records. We have Ronald Filmer representing the Cass County seven, who I think we need to stand up and give them a round of applause too for their They're here. Are they six or seven? And I'm sure Mr. Filmer will talk about 'em, but I will also introduce them a little bit later. And then we have Henry Oliger and Ryan Doll who successfully petitioned to get an issue important to Iowa State students on a special election ballot. That is the city council term of two years instead of the four years that they have right now. Now I'm getting off and I'm gonna let you come, listen to their stories about how these First Amendment, I was gonna say advocates but I think heroes, partake of their First Amendment rights to rectify what they considered injustice. And we're gonna let Ryan and Henry start.\r\n\r\n- Ryan's got to run the class so I guess we'll tell our story pretty quickly. One thing I think that Mark kind of alluded to on his opening bit is, was probably a little understated, is just how little people know about the right to petition. I think everybody on the panel as we were talking just beforehand during, at least at some point, didn't know that petitioning was included in the First Amendment. I know that Ryan and I were a little bit confused when we're asked to talk during First Amendment week as to what it was until we talked to Mark a Little bit more and found out that it was the right to petition that he was interested in. So we were doing some background research on First Amendment and thought that the right to petition was kind of an interesting evolution of rights. It was derived from the Magna Carta but it really came to fruition in the United States during the 1830s. The citizens of the District of Columbia were sending letters and repeatedly approaching the House of Representatives to make slavery illegal in Washington, D.C. And it was bogging down business of the House. So they adopted a standing order that said that that was an issue that was out of bounds and that they wouldn't accept any petitions on it which was subsequently repealed. But it's one of the only case laws in the United States where the right to petition has been denied at the federal level which we found a little bit interesting. But as far as our story, we petitioned on behalf of 731 residents of Ames for the right to have a special election on the city council term lengths reducing them from four to two years which is the default term length in Iowa. And that election was held on the 5th of April and even though voter turnout was rather low and A. Shea did fail, we think that it was a very vital part in the progress of the Ames striving towards the stated one community objective. Some of the things that we did in our process were during a joint meeting between the city council and the government's student body senate, we had legislation out to support this special election which passed unanimously. And then after that time, we collected the signatures and submitted those through the appropriate channels, through the county. And then back to the city and addressed the city at one of their meetings to set the date which was the 5th of April like I said, which was held jointly with the hotel/motel tax question. And then we held a education and voter registration campaign which included included a number of letters to the editor both the Daily and the Tribune as well as an editorial in the Daily and a number of stories in both those papers as well as an extensive amount of canvassing in the community as well as on campus. And I think that if there's one thing that can be taken from our campaign even in defeat, it was the impact that just a few individuals can have. We concentrated most of our canvassing efforts, door to door campaigning in ward 2 in that precinct which was the highest voter turnout in Ames in this election with 490 individuals even though only 135 of them voted on our side as opposed to 4 of 5 which had 56 individuals vote and 50 of them voted on our side. So our science must have worked as well. I think there was just a few problems in our campaign one of which was an assumption was made that due to the extensive voter registration efforts by new voters project and both parties for the presidential election in November, we felt that most community members in Ames would have already been registered at their current address and that was somewhat of an oversight. We probably had four or 500 students that we talked to that had either changed their address or had registered for the general election at their parents' address so they weren't able to vote in this election and didn't know that the registration deadline was a week and a half before the election. So that hurt our efforts a little bit. And then some people view the defeat as a problem but one of our main goals was to bring the discussion to the table of students of the concern of part of the community that they were not being represented by the city council and this part of the community is commonly referred to as students but we refer to them as community members who attend Iowa State. And I think that a moment in the campaign that kind of illustrated our point was the front page of the Daily a few days before the election had the headline of not just passing through. And I think that that was exactly what we were trying to get across as the students and other individuals who are only in Ames for a limited period of time still have a very important interest and are very interested in the government of Ames. One statistic that we came across during our campaign was that 47% of Americans change residence at least once every five years. And I think that that's something that's often overlooked in this debate about students just coming into a town and trying to make radical changes and then being gone in four or five years. I think that we are successful even in defeat.\r\n\r\n- Henry pretty much went over the election. And if you guys can't hear me, I apologize. I did lose my voice during this campaign and I am still trying to work on getting it back. So if you can't hear me, just let me know. The biggest thing that I found interesting when we were looking up information on the right to petition was the right to assemble and how that was pretty much considered a subsidiary point to the right to petition. That the right to petition was the bigger issue when this was first set up. And a lot of that goes back to turn of the century labor unions when they were trying to set up and they were trying to get together to get petitions to change things. And that's where you see a lot of the case law and a lot of the court cases that came out of this, they went more with freedom to assemble and not so much with the right to petition. The other thing that we found that was really exciting or that was really interesting with this was the ease of getting a petition together. When we first presented this to the city council and talked to Mayor Tedesco and the city attorney, they said that we could go about doing this but we would have to get 10% of the people that voted in the last general election. And at first that had us kind of scared until we realized that only 4,625 people voted in the last general election. And so it only took us 463 signatures. So for as much as people don't know about the right to petition, it is extremely simple to use and I think it can make a very lasting and important change. And I guess we will pass this on.\r\n\r\n- Will you go next?\r\n\r\n- Can I go?\r\n\r\n- I'm sure that when our founding fathers put the right to petition in the constitution, they were not thinking about creating a right. They were not thinking about a right to petition the court for the removal of the county sheriff or the county attorney as my clients did last year in Cass County. I wanna first say that I appreciate the School of Journalism sponsoring this sort of an event. And it's fun to tell about our success in Cass County in removing the county attorney and the sheriff. But before revealing how the legal mechanics got going in this case, we must point out that nothing would have ever happened if it was not for the exercise of the freedom of press and the work of Kauffman in The Des Moines Register. His efforts in that regard were somewhat overwhelming. He did day after day of study of the records of the Cass County Courthouse, he interviewed witnesses, his report was a very first-class job of reporting on what happened, and I can't thank him enough for what he did for the petitioners because without his work it would have been a very difficult task. My involvement, I got started because I am the chairman of the Cass County Democratic Party in Cass County and our central committee met in July. And this report of Mr. Kauffman was published in The Des Moines Register on February 15th of last year. And shortly after that, there was a investigation ordered by the state auditor's office and there was not an order about that time. And a couple of events happened in that occasion as soon as this new story came out. One was the auditor's thing and the other was the day after that happened there was a bunch of firearms moved from the county attorney's possession to the sheriff's possession and these firearms belonged to the county. At any rate I was meeting with my central committee meeting in, I believe early July of 2004, and there had just been a report filed. This took about 4 1/2 months for the state auditor to make their report. And I had a lot of my fellow members that were disturbed by the fact that these individuals were still in office, and the state auditor's report was there. And it was very damning in our judgment. And we passed a resolution calling for their resignation which made the press. As a result of that July meeting in the adoption of the resolution, it prompted Mr. Tyler of Atlantic, a prominent Republican in the community, to write a letter. And as I recall, he indicated that this is one-time he agreed with the Democrats, which made me feel good. And later on, Mr. Tyler contacted me and discussed what was possibility and he asked me about a recall petition. Well, those of you who are not familiar with it, the state of Iowa to my knowledge has no provision for a recall related to any political office. And we live close to Nebraska and besides Nebraska football, we hear about Nebraska recall and Nebraska all kinds of things. They legislate all their government by petition which is off the subject but I think it's a lousy way to do your legislating. But anyway, when Mr. Tyler was into my office, I told him about chapter 66 of the code of Iowa and that provisions of that chapter are not very much used. In fact, when we got involved in this and started to do research, it had been approximately 20 or 30 years since there had been a case that we could find that dealt with the right of petition for removal. He discussed with me the possibility of going forward with that. I told him that under those provisions there was a requirement that one post a bond and that would have to be set by a judge and I had no idea what that would be. And he said, \"Well, let's move on.\" And I said, \"Well, I wasn't sure our firm \"would wanna get involved in that. \"I would have to check with my partners.\" And we had reviewed the state auditor's report and frankly, I felt that anybody that read that report should be very disturbed. And I thought there was enough in the state auditor's report which was available on the internet to make anybody believe that there was no reason that these individuals should continue in office, at least continue in the office without doing something that would rectify the sort of things that were complained about. And I'll discuss this a little further later. I told Mr. Tyler that it took at least five plaintiffs to bring this lawsuit of petitioners. And he said that he knew that he could come up with those individuals. And a few days later, he did come up with those. While my firm had real concerns about this, we felt that it was something that somebody had to undertake and it really, even though we were well acquainted and had to deal with both the county attorney and sheriff for many years, it was something that just had to be done and we undertook it. And that all occurred in late July and on July 30th of last year, the petition was filed in district court. And that was almost 5 1/2 months after The Des Moines Register's story on the thing. In order to conduct these proceedings, somebody had to be appointed as a prosecutor. The state law chapter 66 which provides for these kinds of things has the county attorney conducting those proceedings except of course when the county attorney is the defendant. He couldn't hardly do that. So the district court has the authority to appoint a prosecutor. And since the county attorney and the county sheriff were alleged to be acting in concert in the things they were doing, the county attorney of course had a conflict in that regard, so we had to have the district court appoint a prosecutor. They appointed me. Of course, by this time I'm the only one around that has enough knowledge really to do it anyhow. But I was appointed as a special prosecutor for the county attorney and temporarily as the prosecutor for the county sheriff. And that had to be approved by the board of supervisors which eventually was done. This chapter of the code provided that those proceedings had to commence within 20 days. One of the things though that we could do was ask for an outside judge, somebody from outside the judicial district. And because of the close relationship between a county prosecutor and the local judge, we felt that was a necessity. And so we asked for an outside judge and the suit was started on the 30th of July. And it was the 17th of August before the special judge was appointed. That was Robert Hutchinson of Des Moines, a very fine judge indeed. One of the other things that had to happen was a bond had to be posted. And I had to go before the district court of, not there and the chief judge of the district was the only one that would take it on. And he set a $25,000 bond in each case. And this bond is for the purpose of if the petitioners lose, then this bond was to pay the defendant's attorney's fees for defending the case. So this petitioner not only signed the petition, naturally they didn't sign it, I sign it for 'em, they signed it but they also put their money on the line as far as this prosecution of this case. The statute provided that the cases had to be started within 20 days and the supreme court was 17 or 20 days of appointing the judge so we couldn't serve notice on the defendants until the 20 days was up. That gave us time to get the bond in place. And we were ready to go. And the judge set a hearing, I think within two or three days of when the petition was filed, I mean from when he became the appointed judge. And he immediately set the trials and we had asked that the trials be combined because of the conduct, which I'll discuss a little further, was so much. They did so many things in common. But he separated the two and one was scheduled to start August 30th, 13 days after he was appointed, and the second one was to start September 7th, which was all within 20 days now. This is very short time in lawyers' time, right? I don't know how it is anybody else. If you've dealt with lawyers, they don't always get things done in that shorter period of time. Needless to say, very few of the lawyers got much sleep for that period of about 20, 25, 26 days. I later talked to Judge Hutchinson about it and he said it was the most stressful period that he had ever gone through during the same time. So I guess it wasn't only us lawyers that were at risk at that time. Well, I've taken a long time to get to the allegations in the petition that we filed. And what Clark Kauffman had brought to the public's attention more than anything else was the fact that the county attorney was making plea bargains which were saving people from losing their driver's license. At the trial it was shown that Mr. Barry made hundreds of plea arrangements where people could change speeding and other moving violation into non-moving violations. The hot case in that, the one that really blew me away, was one that a young lady was driving a 2003 BMW and it was in the year 2003. So it couldn't have been a very old car. She was clocked at doing 93 miles an hour. The individual was able to trade that one ticket for six defective violations on a quote, 2003 BMW, and to pay a fine which was $155 for each five miles an hour over the speed limit. This was a policy that Mr. Barry had established. That fine was $930 although the fine was not authorized by Iowa law. So this individual had converted out of a moving violation into non-moving violations. One of the things that came out in this procedure was that the county attorney was asking everybody to sign an affidavit that said, \"I was driving that car on that day \"and I was guilty of all of these crimes.\" And then they would list the six defective things that they had in their car. These were usually rear-view mirror, mudflap or whatever. They all were phony as could be. On cross-examination of the county attorney, I custodied him pretty good about that. And I asked him repeatedly if he believed those affidavits and for long time his answer was, \"I had no reason to disbelieve 'em.\" And finally, after he had said that for about a couple hours, and all of these individuals here can testify that in fact I didn't make him testify to that, he finally admitted that, yes, he did believe all those people. The interesting thing about all of that was that he had been publicly reprimanded by the Iowa Bar ethics commission for his conduct with respect to those. And this had gone to the commission. And then the way that works is if you disagree with that, you have a right to appeal it to the supreme court. He did not do that and in fact put out a news release that he was accepting that. This did not sit well with the trial judge in the case because it's a little one thing to say you're not challenging the action of the ethics commission, and then to go into court and try and dispute and take the position that you really didn't do anything wrong. It was just a little hard for the judge to swallow. In his work for the new story, I should say, Clark Kauffman also discovered the sheriff had a fund that was referred to as a drug fund. The state auditor also investigated this and learned that the sheriff with the knowledge and assistance of the county attorney was feeding this fund. This was by improper methods including the handling of drug forfeitures and automobile forfeiture. These monies were going into this account in the sheriff's office. The sheriff was not only using these funds for drug investigation, we'll give him credit he was using it for that, he also did things like sponsor fees for golf tournaments and purchase cell phones for the county attorney and others. And there were quite a number of items, a page of items, that we cross-examined them about at the time of trial. 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The defendant would then take home the gun or a vehicle and the forfeiture would go away. The next thing that made this kind of conduct most despicable was the Sheriff and the County Attorney were found to be acting together when they bought firearms and motor vehicles for the County Attorney, from the drug fund. So these individuals were funneling this money into the drug fund and then they were taking it out for these items. The usual procedures for that of course would be a system of taxation where funds are put into the hands of the County Board of Supervisors. You could buy these things or they could do it out, do it by bidding or other processes but in any way they would do it, it would be in the view of public scrutiny. In this case these individuals were doing this just the County Attorney and the Sheriff on their own. They, perhaps the most blatant example of what I'm referring to was the Sheriff's purchase of a Sako. I never heard of a Sako . until I heard of this case, but a Sako rifle would cost $2,554 which was apparently purchased for the benefit of the County Attorney. Just a little sideline, but I understand in order to use this rifle you really need a site that cost just as much as the gun did. So they were talking about $5,000 before they ever got that rifle operational. This rifle was instead of being, and it was true that no one knew about this rifle except the County Attorney and the Sheriff. The sniper who apparently would be the person that would use the rifle, knew nothing about it. This firearm and 15 others that the County attorney had out of the Sheriff's office was returned to the County Sheriff into the County Sheriff's office. The Sako rifle went to the Sheriff's house and the rest of the items went back to the Sheriff's office and his 15 firearms that the County Attorney had, went back the day after Clark Kauffman story in the De Moines Register. I'd like to say in the middle of the night, and I guess it was only eight or nine o'clock at night. But, why he couldn't carry him back in the daytime would kind of raise suspicion. Well, both the defendants contended the purchase were necessary for safety of the Sheriff's office. The Judge just didn't see it that way. Judge Hutchinson and his decision made it clear, he could not see any rational reason for this kind of conduct by either auster. There are many other items of misconduct that were alleged and shown in the trial, actually 10 days later, the Judge in two very well written opinions, found both parties had been guilty of misconduct and removed them from office. Chapter 66 has not been used much in the past and as I indicated has been very little used. The case law decision under it which we used to be guided by, we and the Judge, pretty much had protected them and very rarely, I think I counted them at one time, I don't remember the number but I think the cases that were appealed to the Supreme Court and this were used much more in the past and it has been in recent years, like I said it'd been at least 30 years since there had been a case. But in the cases in the past, most of the decisions on appeal were favorable to the defendant office holders. So this was a very heavy burden that was undertaken here for the removal of these folks. One cannot say enough for what the petitioners did. They put their name on the line, they put their money on the line. I was very proud to represent them. There was no polls taken locally, so I can only say what I feel from observation was the public was very much behind us. There was, as there always is in those kinds of things, there was some dissent. But I think that it was very successful. I mentioned that this came up, I didn't, I guess I really didn't state as I intended to earlier, that one might think that a Board of Supervisors would get involved in this. If you're familiar with Local Government, we have a Board of Supervisors, and in my judgment they're the political, really truly political body we have. I get on my soapbox, I don't think that we should be electing all these people. But that's beside the point. But I think the County Board of Supervisors as a policy making body in the county, should have had some authority over these people. But they have none. I think how they would have had a moral persuasion authority and they sat by very much, I think intimidated pretty by these two individuals and more than anything, probably by the County Attorney I think had they used their persuasion, I felt all along that if these folks came forward, I think we've all observed in political, in observing people that get in trouble in politics, the best way to deal with your problems in politics when you're in trouble is to be honest about it. And they come forward and say, \"whoops, I made mistakes but we're going to correct them. We're going to be, everything's going to be transparent. You're going to see everything that happen. And you won't have anything to question my integrity after this.\" I think it'd be either of those folks would have done that, this case would have gone away. But it did not. People like my clients had heard it. I think it was, excuse me, a very common feeling within the community that every week not just the Des Moines Register, but all the newspapers in the state were saying things about our community and we didn't like it. And these people took the law in their hands in the only way they could and brought this petition that was successful. And I can't say enough for them, again I can't say it enough for Clark Kaufman and the Moines Register on this either.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Yes. I'm Arlen Nichols. And I was a co-plaintiff with Mark Gannon and The Citizens for Open Government in Ames, Bill Cooner. And I'm going to be very brief. And I think we're, I don't know whether we're fortunate or not to be in the Memorial Union that used to house an organization that forgot all about freedom. Now, we went to court for one reason and that was the open the records at Iowa State. I didn't do that much, I knew the attorney who was my next door neighbor in Chicago, and I introduced to Bill and Mark to him. And I want to say that we were successful in the Iowa Supreme court, unanimously. I read in the paper where the foundation here has said that they're changing their way of doing business. Yesterday we discussed one thing, we said that it's funny, we thought the Iowa Supreme Court changed their way of doing business. Again, thank everyone here, I want to thank everyone here from Ames, the people from Atlantic, the students from Iowa State and I'll turn it over to Mark Gannon who really put the work collar on along with Bill Cooner and I was just kind of a writer. Mark.\r\n\r\n- Well, thank you. This has been, even though Arlen and I have been kind of on the front line and in the papers, this has been an issue for, there's been a lot of people behind this. If we started counting names, there're 30 or 40 people at least, have been been instrumental in this process. My involvement got started when I used to be the land manager at the college of Ag at Iowa State. And one of the, I was taken into the Dean's office in December of 1996, to tell about a gift that was given to Iowa State University given to the ISU Ag Foundation and people are gonna get confused all the names but don't. It's different than the foundation, but not that much different. And was told that this was money was gonna be used for the animal science program. He explained that he didn't know who the lady was. It was just kind of a mystery, she gave her entire state to the university but that President Jischke had decided that that money was gonna be used for the animal science, the intensive livestock building. And so that's just kind of the way it was. I spent the next month or so getting ready to manage our farm, figuring out where the money was handled, working with, the money, part of the money was already in the foundation. As it turns out the investigate, I was kind of foolish in the fact that I was trying to figure out who she was to make a long story short, when we finally got the records of Marie Powell after several years, it turns out that they knew who she was within two weeks after she died in December of Christmas, right before Christmas Eve, 1995. There was memos in the file, John Pesek, who was the Head of Agronomy had written Dean Topo and told him who she was, what she wanted. She had met with Neil Harl years ago talking about what to do with her farm. That was in the file at the foundation even though when a year later when I as the manager of the Ag foundation and we're the title holder to the property, we found out, I found out as a manager, almost a year after she died, that we had this gift. And that was after the foundation, the university had gone to the court to get her will changed, to get the right to sell her farm, said that she didn't have any buildings to One of her wills, two of her things she wanted, she wanted to maintain her buildings, and she wanted her farm not to be sold. Well, they went to court and got both of those taken care of prior to the, the Ag Foundation Board knowing much about, the President of the Ag Foundation didn't know about it till he had to sign the agreement, coming out of the court and all that was done behind the scenes by the university and the ISU Foundation people at the time. But anyway, while I was the land manager at the College of Ag, we kind of held that farm in reserve with the idea that maybe they would raise enough money for the intensive livestock building. And then I left, I got kind of frustrated with that situation and some others I left in the, between 1999 and 2000. And about December, I met one of the board members, a guy from Clarion who I was instrumental putting on the board and was talking about this Marie Powell thing. And he said, \"Do you know what we're selling the farm?\" And I said, \"You are.\" And he says, \"Yeah.\" And he said, \"Well, we had to.\" and I said, \"Why did you have to?\" And he said, \"Well, they said at the meeting that we had to.\" and I said, \"You didn't have to sell that farm. And so what are you going to do with the money?\" And he said, \"Well, we're gonna put it in the livestock. And the utility of the livestock building.\" And I said, \"Well, why are we gonna do that?\" And he said, \"Well, they apparently need it.\" And I said, \"Well, we've got a board, and it's in the board minutes when I was still there that Dean Topo said that we'd already raised all the money for the intensive livestock building and it was already funded.\" And he said, \"I didn't understand that.\" So, he was kind of new on the board. He kind of come in midstream, so he went back to some board meetings and I guess caused kind of a ruckus and kind of raise these questions and I went to the newest dean at the time and within probably a couple of weeks after hearing that they were to sell the farm and is trying to explain to him what she wanted, what they were doing, And he wasn't really interested, in fact, he basically told me that I was poking my, sticking my nose, where I don't belong, and so that got me started. At the time I knew what Bill Cooner and some of his group of curmudgeons were doing and there's a few of them in here right now. So I went to Bill and I said, \"Bill, I think here's a story that that may help you with your openness with the University and the Foundation.\" You know, I think they've been working for years trying to challenge some of the openness at the university. And I knew the facts behind that case, you know. The first meeting I ever had with Mrs. Powell's attorney, a phone conversation, not too long after meeting with the Dean, the first time I heard about the property. His first words out of his mouth was \"What you were doing with that with that money is wrong.\" And I said, \"Why is that?\" And he says, \"Because she would have never put it in. She wanted that for seed science people. And putting that in an animal science program she would never have agreed to that.\" And so that got me started trying to try to protect it within the Ag Foundation. And after I left, I couldn't have done anything about it anyway, at that point in time, all right. You know, I was just an employee, I wasn't one of the board members. But I guess then we started getting together and and Bill saw the merit in the case. I went to the Ames Tribune, they wouldn't have it. They just couldn't see the merit there. They didn't think it was worth the trouble to drive up to Fort Dodge and research the case. So we went to the Register and Frank Santiago, down at the Register, bought into it. Convinced his editors to do it. So that was the start of the Marie Powell's case. That's what brought me into this whole open records issue. And in the meantime, Neil Hurl and Bill had a group of people that were, we ended up calling \"The Citizens for Open Government\" that were trying to get openness at the university. And so I kinda joined into that group. And in that timeframe, we were negotiating with the Foundation, or people were talking to the Foundation trying to get more openness through the Foundation, and you'd get a little bit here and a little bit there, but it's more policy things which they could change, you know, in a moment's notice. So I guess they came out with a new open records policy. I didn't think was good enough. So we, I guess I'm getting things out of order, but I guess, in the meantime, we heard about a guy in Des Moines that was, that was pretty crotchety he was wanting to take some people to task too. So I said at the meeting one day, I said, \"Well, who is he?\" I mean, you know, \"Let's find out who this guy is.\" And I think he kind of steered, I mean, just the idea. Some of the group were more vocal than others. And I think some of them were kind of the idea, well, you know, \"I don't know we wanna push this too hard.\" you know, but so I made a point to, and I think I'm trying to remember all the circumstances, but bill and I, we got together and met Barlin and realized that he was passionate about it. And the big key that Arlen talks about and I do too, is that we found a law firm, an attorney that was willing to take it on and knew the merits of the case, felt good about it. You know, to me, there's about five or six people that were instrumental in this whole deal. And people want to look at Arlin and I, and I think those were necessary too. But, you know, it could have been done without Bill or that couldn't have been done without Tom Hanson. Frank Santiago was, you know, he takes as much credit as anything. You know, guys like Neil Harl sitting in here, gave me the confidence to feel that we really had something that we could push for. And, you know, it took a while and in this town, you just have a hard time fighting the university and it's not real popular. Most of our supporters were university supporters. They were retired faculty, they were associate deans that most of them retired. Most people that are on the staff, do not want to take that risk. I mean, they worked under a president that would, I don't know whether to say retaliate, but to mean it was a tough situation. And it's not really popular to do that, you know in our names, but it worked out and we felt we had the law on our side and I don't know. That's probably about it, but, you know, it's been a long process. And again, after meeting with Tom Hanson we didn't realize what we could do. You know, I mean. I didn't Know what we could do under the law and he told us how he could it, and we raised some money to try and fund the process but it was a drop in the bucket compared to what it costs really probably to do it. But now that we won, you know, I mean, he can get you know, he can get paid more for his cost, but.\r\n\r\n- I'd like to add just one other thing that the National Society for Professional Journalists also kicked in. And really that was the only media support we had. We asked several of the newspapers and television areas for monies. But like our attorney said, that's a poor place to ask for money, maybe. I guess, that's it.\r\n\r\n- Want to thank y'all for telling your stories. I'm sure there are questions. Surprisingly one from Bill Kuhner.\r\n\r\n- I want to agree a lot of people will bow in this effort.\r\n\r\n- Oh yeah.\r\n\r\n- But of all people, only two people had guts to the University. The rest of us were very reluctant to become party to it\r\n\r\n- Yeah. And two guys did that.\r\n\r\n- Yeah. We appreciate that Bill coming from you. The other thing that I think gets lost in this is it. I think as much as anything is that we were really asking for the border regions to do their job. And that gets, that isn't brought up in these articles or anything else. But that's the big thing. That's where the statutes were that was their responsibility to oversee it. They're the ones that set up these foundations. They were given the authority to set up the foundations and that's a state function and we're still gonna be on that case. I mean, the whole story kind of revolves around opening up the foundation but as much as anything is getting the board of regions to do their job and believe me if any system's broken in Iowa, it's the region system and maybe we can keep working on that.\r\n\r\n- That gentleman there.\r\n\r\n- John.\r\n\r\n- If you're successful in getting the record open, how far back in the records could that one go as far?\r\n\r\n- We asked until 1995 However, the attorney did say that since the payroll was being paid by the State of Iowa and all of employees were State employees, he thought that the very direction of funds, would make those records available to, of course, I think they can hide behind a lot of those records that are 10 years old but, that's the legal opinion we got yesterday.\r\n\r\n- 95\r\n\r\n- Well, to 95. That's what we requested but there's really no reason to think he can't go back to the beginning because we based a lot of it on how the foundations were set up originally. So if they're open to 95, why would they not be opened beyond before?\r\n\r\n- That's interesting.\r\n\r\n- You spoke about the foundation suggested that maybe there's more than one foundation here? Like is there a college foundation and then an agriculture one?\r\n\r\n- Well, there was an Ag foundation that was set up in the 1930s by a banker that donated 10 farms and put a hundred thousand dollars into a fund that was used kind of, it was kind of the beginning of the experimental farms. That was called the ISU Ag foundation. That's why part of this is confusing because I think when the original call came down to the university about this gift to the Ag Foundation, the goal was directed over to the ISU Foundation. And so they investigated this and tried to claim it as their own. And, but yeah, there's about, well, All the affiliates have to file a report to the Board of Regents every year. And Iowa State's got nine or 10. Now they wouldn't necessarily call them foundation. There's ISU Research Foundation, there's the 4-H Foundation, there's the Ag Foundation. There's quite a few really.\r\n\r\n- I wanted to correct that it was the Ag Foundation that did all this improper procedure.\r\n\r\n- Partly but the ISU Foundation. Marie Blackwelder was the one that was up there to Marie Powell's attorney within a week and told we've got the notes from her attorney saying that he said that he was the President of the Ag Foundation and wanted to change some of the well, he went up there when he said, \"Prove that to me.\" He said, \"Well, the Ag Foundation has been rolled into the ISU Foundation.\" And when the Attorney said, \"Prove that to me\" then that's when they went to court.\r\n\r\n- I think they said, \"Put it in writing.\" And he wouldn't put it in writing.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- So there's nothing to university Foundation does without having the University.\r\n\r\n- Ask if they don't get to the microphone if we could repeat the question so everybody could hear it.\r\n\r\n- Okay, he would.\r\n\r\n- All right.\r\n\r\n- It's on?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Well, I'm wondering if someone could explain the difference between a proposition like they have in California and a petition, okay? And then, the second part, because apparently cannot have a proposition in Iowa. Okay. And put it on the ballot. Now, the other thing is, is the department foundation part of the ISU Foundation? And will they make their records available?\r\n\r\n- I don't think they have a separate foundation. They have a fund.\r\n\r\n- Is that it?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I can't answer the questions about the proposition, we'll let Ryan answer that, but I can tell you this about the foundations. Every record is public unless the foundation can say it's confidential. All of the records of all of the foundation. That was the ruling of the Iowa Supreme Court.\r\n\r\n- And that's one of the things that really got us stirred up when we got the records of Marie Powell's money, is that when we felt improperly gifted to the intensive livestock building, it turned out that it wasn't all put there. Part of it went to Brenton Center, part of it went to Reiman Gardens, part of it went to remodel offices in Curtis Hall. Now that was eventually supposedly put back. I don't have the records for that. But that was known. We didn't even know that until we got the records of the Ag.\r\n\r\n- And that was also repaid to the Foundation.\r\n\r\n- So I guess that's part of my point. They didn't open up the records of the Foundations. You know, even if they say it's going somewhere it can go somewhere and go, it can be reversed. You know. They can show you a receipt that says it went somewhere, but unless you have the whole record, you don't have anything.\r\n\r\n- And the best that I can respond, as I understand actually the propositions in other States, at least in Nebraska, which is closest to me out in the Western part of the State, Nebraska, they petitioned to have various propositions put on their ballot. Many of them are constitutional provisions and then some of them are statutory things. Like I read the Omaha World-Herald every day and they're always talking about petitions to establish gambling in Nebraska. Then the citizens over there are sick of their money going over in the Iowa, but they can't seem to get the voters to go that way. But anyway, that sort of thing is done by petition. And of course the other State that come to mind where they operate with propositions, which again, I think are all put on by petition is California. And I was observing to one of my fellows on the way in that California has passed laws, which I think the attempt to regulate economics. And maybe that's not quite the way to say it but to establish new rules of economics. Like I remember they passed a proposition a few years ago that said insurance rates on automobiles had to come down. I never quite figured out how they could enforce that. But as I understand they did, somehow.\r\n\r\n- Iowa also has provisions depending on what type of petition you're trying to put forward on whether or not it can be on a general election or if it has to be its own special election which prohibits somethings from ever making it to the voters.\r\n\r\n- Both of those cases involve members of the bar. What can you say about what the Supreme Court has done in the two cases? Because both these cases really represent the breakdown of ethics on the part lawyers.\r\n\r\n- I didn't quite understand your question, Neil. We couldn't hear you.\r\n\r\n- My question was both cases involved members of the bar. What has the Supreme Court done because in both instances, the problem was really at the bottom, the breakdown of ethics on the part of lawyers involved. And the one case pushing through the sale of the farm against the clear wishes of the testator, and against the sense, actually, once you look at the records. The other case county attorney, who I think by any stretch of imagination, is violating ethics. Iowa has a tough reputation, very tough state when it comes to those who hold the license to practice.\r\n\r\n- Well, as you may be familiar, the Supreme Court, well, if I understand the rules on the Ethics Board, there's a group of lawyers that first hear the ethics complaints. In Iowa, anything, but a county attorney and the complaint is about you as a practicing lawyer, it goes to a commission member. I think there's five or six panels at a time and I'm not sure whether it consists of five or seven individuals. There's four of those are lawyers and I think the other three are laymen. But the exception of that was with, at the time this occurred, as far as the County Attorney was concerned. was the county attorneys had their own group of ethics board. And it's my understanding that that's now been changed. And so, now the same body that hears all the other ethics complaints, will hear that. In this thing and what's happened lately with respect to the county attorneys and the production of information, I always have a feeling that it looks to me like they're out to protect the prosecutors and the law enforcement people. If you ever noticed that the grand jury is hardly ever used in the State of Iowa, except investigate a police officer or somebody of that nature. And we had one out in Western Iowa recently where the County Attorney made the comment when they failed to enter a bill or failed to indict the individual that had shot somebody in his home, the story was they were out to recover this guy's pistol that another police officer's pistol, which this guy had walked away with somehow, I don't remember the details. But the police officer went to his home, another police officer went to his home, they did check into that. He went through and they broke in, they didn't use any kind of a siren system or any microphones to tell him to come to the door. They went in and apparently the guy looked up and maybe he had something in his hand, he was shot dead. The grand jury was called and the grand jury entered no bill which means there wasn't any indictment issue. Those ones seem to be the only kind of cases that the grand jury has ever used. And I've never dealt with that as a practitioner, I'm not in the criminal area, in fact, the case that I was involved in was completely out of my bailiwick. But then if you observe, it always seems like they use the grand jury as a way to clear the police officers. And I've wondered about closed cases where they indict some young individual for some freak accident that happened or where a county attorney's information is issued. What would have happened if that was given to a grand jury but those individuals aren't given that privilege like the police officers. And I guess my feeling is, and I'm quite concerned, and I backed the Des Moines Register in everything they do in trying to get out information from DCI investigations and other things, In this case that I was involved in, there was a DCI investigation, the Attorney General's office said they would help me when I asked them for the help. The individual who later had handled the grand jury investigation out in Cass County, told me, he said, \"If you guys bring these cases, you got to figure out how you're going to prove them yourself.\" Now, I was a prosecutor that stood in the shoes of the county attorney but the Attorney General's office wasn't going to help me. They had a DCI report, they wouldn't provide it to me. I told them I was going to subpoena. And he said, go ahead and we'll meet you in court. I had like six days to prepare for trial. I didn't have time to pool with him. But that indicates to me an attitude that needs to be changed. The Des Moines Register and I think Quad City Times, both criticized the Attorney General for not pursuing this case in Cass County. I concurred in that 100%. I wrote to the Attorney General a letter in criticism of their failure to cooperate with me in that manner. The DCI report, the Des Moines Register asked for that, and I don't think this has been public knowledge, but I'm sure the DCI was asked by the Des Moines Register for a copy of that report and the other investigation that was done in Cass County and they denied. I don't know whether that was through the Attorney General's office or the DCI itself, but they refused to open those records. It's been pointed out to me and I've read the case, I can't cite it right now, but there's an Iowa Supreme Court case where a problem much like this was a big news story and lots of things that went on with it and the Supreme Court held that that report should be produced. And it gets down to the same problem that people in Cass County had. It costs money to protect your rights, to get what you're really entitled to. That's not right and I think it, I support very much the journalist's effort to open up public records. I've found that a huge problem. My work in most part in the past with civil work usually motor vehicle accidents and that sort of case, it's always been a battle to get public records in my experience, particularly if there was any criminal charge filed. This is despite my view, the fact that the people I've dealt with, are just almost always terrific people. The police officers, the servers that I deal with, the highway patrolman, the state auditor's people in this investigation we dealt with when the County attorney and the Sheriff, they were just fantastic. I thought, excellent public servants and we'd be proud of them. But why then the people in the Attorney General's office and the law enforcement people themselves, are always so reluctant to put out the hard work that they've done and the investigation just blows me away. I can understand that. There's just no rational reason for it as far as I'm concerned\r\n\r\n- Any more questions? I was going to put Clark on the spot if, I mean Clark, could you speak to the, you know the recent audit that we just did and maybe answer question on the reluctance or what you found on why public officials are reluctant to open public records or And speak about the audit that just didn't really\r\n\r\n- As far as the reluctance at the Attorney General's office I mean, I don't\r\n\r\n- Speak up.\r\n\r\n- Journalists are not used to public speaking.\r\n\r\n- As far as the Attorney General's reluctance to cooperate with the prosecutor in the Cass County case, that was amazing. I wasn't too surprised that they wouldn't cooperate with us in terms of making public the DCI report but it does raise that question of what the criminal investigation actually showed. Because since it went to the grand jury, we have no real insight as to what the investigators really found out. So that's that. Question, what was your, the other one?\r\n\r\n- If you speak to the public records audit that was just finished and published and as opposed to five years ago. And then, I mean, you know, this is public open records and open meetings are not just for the press. Therefore, you know, anyone who just came in. So you might, if you,\r\n\r\n- Well, yeah, that's right. What we tried to do in the public records, was basically sending people into police stations, into school district offices, city halls, all around the state to find out how much access the average citizen might be able to get when they just ask to see certain types of records. And what we found was a similar pattern, somewhat to what we found five years ago which was a lot of reluctance in certain quarters to part with any kind of information, but it does, it varies from one jurisdiction to the next. And in some instances, people would be very cooperative, make all the information public and others, reporters were running into situations where they were followed from the courthouse by law enforcement personnel. There were some kinds of intimidation tactics. One reporter at the Register, just recently was kind of tossed out of the Federal Courthouse because they have some regulations there in terms of anybody who goes into the Federal Courthouse needs to show a government issued picture ID. And then after you pass through the metal detector. So theoretically you wouldn't pose any kind of a threat to anyone but you have to pass some other kind of undefined test before you can even enter the Federal Courthouse. So we fight those kinds of battles on a regular basis.\r\n\r\n- Clark doesn't chapter 22, say that if you walk into an office and if they hold the records, they have to make that record available?\r\n\r\n- Well, it does, but then you actually get down to that issue of what actually constitutes a public record as opposed to what constitutes a government record. Because there are these exemptions, a growing list of exemptions to the public records law. But even when it's in black and white, we ran into situations where you would have law enforcement personnel say, \"I don't care what the law says. We're not going to get to that record.\" So that's obviously discouraging when you're hearing that from your lawyers or police officers who are violating the very laws they've sworn to uphold.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- I think that you'll find that the, while the first amendment is a wonderful philosophical tool, but where it really comes down to it is when you have open records and open meetings. And that's where you really find out whether it is a government of the people by the people, for the people. Because if the people can't get information that is theirs, the public, it is not these officials. It is the public's information. And if the people can't, if the public can't get that information they can't be informed and educated and come in and help the officials make decisions about what they want. You know, I'm sorry, I'm getting up so much but I'd like to say one more thing and then I'll shut up. What would be nice to create would be first amendment communities, where you have public officials who are truly public servants. And when I was talking about public servants, I'm talking about people who facilitate the public's wishes. And on top of that you have a committed public that makes sure that the public officials know what their wishes are. And if you have, instead of this, you know, give and take and it's our records, it's your records, if there becomes a cooperation, then you've got a wonderful community and wonderful synergy going on, but that can't happen unless the public has the information it needs to help the officials make those decisions and make sure that they're educated and informed enough to make those wishes known. And that also fits in the budget, you know and if they don't have the budget numbers, they can't figure that out. If they don't have the records, they don't know where the money is being spent and all that. And this is why this issue of open records and open meetings and the continuing tendency toward public officials to close, I mean, records and well for County. Or we have the rolling quorum. I mean, the audacity of the rolling quorum, where the Board of Supervisors in two huge issues where they're trying to decide who is gonna manage the Iowa Events Center in the Moines one issue, and the other issue is where they are trying to decide whether to increase gambling at Meadows. And you've got a Board of Supervisors, five people, quorum is three, send two people in the meeting, the other two waiting out here. Then what, a couple hours later, these two go in these two come out. Excuse me, these two come out first, these two go in and back and forth, back and forth to where there's no forum. There was no open meeting. The audacity of those people.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- That you cannot have a first amendment community with public officials who have that view, that attitude. And I'll vote them out.\r\n\r\n- If I could jump on a soapbox for a second. To go along with what you're saying about access when going in and asking for records, Ryan's not here, but all share his story 'cause Ryan and I share a life. So, but anyway. When we initially tried to initiate this petition, Ryan went to City Hall and was asking around about how to go about the petition. Then when he initially went in, he said, \"Hi I'm Ryan Dahl I'm a student at Iowa state,\" blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and asked his question. And after the third office, he went to in City Hall, he introduced himself as, \"Hi, I'm Ryan Dahl, I'm with a community group and we have some concerns and we'd like to file a petition.\" Oh that lady just right off the bat, knew that he was in the wrong building and sent him over to Nevada, to the courthouse. And when he got to Nevada, he said, \"Hi, I'm Ryan Dahl, I'm a concerned community member.\" And, boy, they knew right where to take him. So just for comparison, when he went back with the petition in Nevada, he went in and said, \"Hi, I'm Ryan Dahl, I'm a student.\" Boy, they gave him the run around again. And it's not exactly the same thing, but I think that that's something that, especially in Ames and Storey County is a real problem. Is that students are viewed as almost, I'm gonna go out on the norm and use the word Second class citizens. In the, you know, just because we don't, maybe we don't own property or we aren't here for a long period of time that we don't know what's going on. And that, you know, it's okay to push us aside. But on the same hand, as exposed in the Moines Register, student government, and occasionally we use instant messenger during meetings. So, I might be the only one in the room that knows what I'm talking about. I was talking to myself.\r\n\r\n- Technology and open meetings.\r\n\r\n- Ladies and Gentlemen, let me ask this question of Cass County I got. I guess I got two questions. One to two guys who've been thrown out of office. Is there any potential for the Marion Barry factor to come back? You know what, they could come back office someday.\r\n\r\n- As one participant I'd say short answer. No. One of the other consequences we recently had while supervising this election and two of the three had opposition.\r\n\r\n- I thought you would say two.\r\n\r\n- Well, I think short answer is exactly what he said. Legally it's possible. I think the only, I think there are still some pending ethics issues as far as the County Attorney is our concern then. And I don't know that those have been resolved by the authorities and what could happen if he were disqualified as an attorney, then of course he couldn't be running for county attorney but otherwise I think if they both wanted to come back and run for election, they could.\r\n\r\n- Do you see these folks around town how they treat you? Or how do you treat them allies and still be friends\r\n\r\n- I've not had occasion to, the sheriff still lives in the county. If I'd seen him, I'd be glad to visit with him. He was helpful to me several years ago I had coffee yesterday morning with the County Attorney's uncle. We had a good conversation, play golf tomorrow,\r\n\r\n- Are there any more questions or comments? Well, before we break up, I promised that we would meet all these people, especially the Cass County people. And I like to, we've called these people First Amendment advocates, and we've called these people First Amendment heroes. And now the Greenlee School would like to officially call them Champions of the First Amendment. And we have, which is obviously, that may not be the best part of it. The best part is you get to teach us first But would, Peggy is the one who, is she here?\r\n\r\n- Not here.\r\n\r\n- She's not here. Okay. But, but we wanna also make sure that everybody knows, Peggy Roland is not here, but she is one of the Cass County Seven. James R. Tyler, would you come up? We have the sizes and all this and they're all right. You may have to switch them later, but if you get the wrong size, you really need to . Blame Dwayne because he's the one that gave your sizes away. Dwayne Aker","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42828/file/115368#t=0.0,3234.7951"}]}]}]}