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And, of course, the political science department, all of who have put a lot of effort and some considerable resources into the series. We're extremely fortunate tonight. Our guests and our speaker is one of the most distinguished international leaders in the area of public policy. He's served probably now under eight presidents. My notes say seven, but I think Bush is probably the eighth. And he has held positions ranging from disaster relief, he was the executive director in 1964 of the Federal Program to rebuild Alaska after the devastating earthquake. He was instrumental in designing and implementing the new federalism programs which affected all 50 states and local communities in the United States. And of course, as you can see from the title of tonight's topic, one of his more recent positions, from which he moved on to other things, just three months ago, was as the Assistant Administrator of the Latin American and Caribbean Bureau of the Agency for International Development. He's a distinguished professional in the field of international management. He served as president of the American Consortium for international public administration, and vice president of the International Institute for Administrative Sciences. He was born in Des Moines, he holds what we believe is the first Bachelor of Science degree in government or political science from Iowa State, having convinced the chairman of a larger department at the time that this should be a major. So he is, in fact, the father of the political science program at Iowa State. And he received his degree in 1947, and his master's degree in Public Administration from the University of Minnesota. Speaking on drugs, Trade and Development, please help me welcome Dwight Ink.\r\n\r\n- Well, thank you very much. It's good to be home again. Like I come home, whenever I have a good excuse, sometimes when I don't have a good excuse, I do still have a fam. And well, that helps a little bit from time to time. Well, tonight, we're going to talk about the Western Hemisphere and some of the problems associated with developing these countries, some of the obstacles, some of the impediments. I should warn you, I should warn you in advance that newspaper, I think it was the Washington Post several years ago. And a story about me, said that I had charisma, almost approaching that of a filing cabinet. Someday, maybe I'll equal out of a filing cabinet. But I try to compensate for that by taking interesting subjects. I think this is an interesting subject. And I think it also helps a little bit to illustrate why I'm one of those who believes that public administration is the most exciting profession in the world. I think by a wide margin. If we had six or eight hours, I would develop that to some extent, but some of you don't want to stay that long. When I was here on the campus, like many of you, I had a lot of fun writing editorials, or what was then called The Daily Student. I wrote with great authority and conviction, with the level of confidence I no longer have. I remember writing one editorial suggesting that faculty should be graded by the students. That got quite a lot of attention. It did not endear me to the faculty. And I must say I had several professors that I had some difficulty communicating with that to that. I also wrote an editorial saying that the Iowa school system I thought had begun to get out of date when the Indians left Iowa. You know, that's the the great level of confidence and solid which I used to dash off those editorials. But a number of people thought I didn't know who'd written the editorial. I thought it must be some eminent though probably brash, professor at Iowa State. And I got invitations from around the state to go out and visit and discuss school reorganization. By lightstone, the professor who was interested and we did, we flew out around a number of communities talked about reorganization school districts, that was my introduction into public administration, I might say. Latin America, beautiful country, I think beautiful people, great music. And it'd be fun, just to spend a couple hours talking about some trips just to Latin America. I can recommend a number that I think you'll enjoy. Some of you I know have come from Latin America, some of you know good many places I don't. But we're dealing today with a grimmer side of Latin America, problems of trying to overcome very deep seated difficulties that have some of which have roots going back many centuries, some of which have roots going back to the initial Spanish occupation of some of the countries. We need to recognize that the United States is no longer, plays a dominant role in foreign assistance that it once did. Time of the Marshall Plan, we were the donors. And we played a very major role in the recovery of Europe, recovery of good many countries around the world. Today, there are a number of countries in particularly Europe that devote more of their gross national product percentage wise to foreign assistance than we do. And Japan in total dollars has surpassed the United States in terms of economic assistance. But we still are a major player. And we are the only donor in the world today, that tries and I think to some extent succeeds in having a comprehensive policy with respect to the development of countries, particularly in the Western Hemisphere, and some countries in Africa, a few still in Asia. When I came into this job four years ago, it seemed to me that many of the approaches that had been used toward development were pretty over simplistic. I mentioned earlier today that helping the poorest of the poor under the Carter administration, in the beginning of the Reagan administration, focusing so heavily on privatization, neither of which are comprehensive, neither of which were really very successful. The Bipartisan Kissinger Commission came forward with something which I thought was very good in terms of a comprehensive approach to helping countries recover themselves. And it attracted me I came back into the Reagan administration, I had served in two roles prior to that. Because of the controversy, involving the Contras, in the Sandinistas, I was left pretty much alone to develop. And I had, I was able to do it rather quickly, because I didn't have much, no one paid much attention to the economic assistance, I was able to redevelop and reshape, in the course of about two months, our foreign assistance program with respect to the Western Hemisphere. Speaking of contras, my office about 50 feet from Elliott Abrams, the Assistant Secretary, which you may have read about and Contra hearings and so forth. So we went back and forth quite a bit. I used to see Ollie North, in his outer office from time to time. I was introduced to him once. I really didn't know what he was doing. But it's not unusual to have military people working with the State Department because they were concerned with military operations too. But he and several of his colleagues, although we didn't know very well, We're liking them, at least my staff did, who knew him a little better to the individual Whose idea of gun control is aiming straight. And I think that may be a pretty good description at a time. By the way, I weighed in against the National Security Council, I thought it was a failure. I worked with the National Security Council since days of Eisenhower. And I tried, it turns out is good thing. I wasn't successful. But I tried so hard, particularly under Poindexter to get some of these issues that we're going to talk about on the agenda of the National Security Council never got one on one, the agenda, never even came close to getting on the agenda. They were busy with other things. First, now we know better what they were busy with. The policy, which I'll outline briefly, as a backdrop against some of the later discussion had essentially four points growing out of the Kissinger Commission, what I did was distill a whole series of recommendations or over 100 recommendations, I distilled them into a framework that had four major points, one, the economic stabilization, to get rid of the high inflation rates, that were absolutely ruining some of the economies and work particularly hard against the poor people. Second, economic growth, because without economic growth, there's no way these countries can earn the foreign exchange, they have to have to meet the problems of education, health, provide jobs, and so on. Three, providing an opportunity for people, particularly the poor people to share in the benefits of that economic growth. Because if you don't do that, all you do is increase, in many respects, increase the tension the polarization of these countries, and widen the gap between the rich and the poor. And finally, fourthly, is the democratization. I feel very strongly that there is a basic interrelationship between economic health of a country and its democratic institutions and processes, even though those processes may be quite different from what we have in the United States, because you have to tailor them to the culture and to the background of an individual country. Nevertheless, democratic process in one form or another, I felt was was very, very important. This development of course takes time. And therefore, there has to be really as an interim fifth element that is providing, helping these countries provide some kind of safety net, while all this stabilization and economic growth develops and takes years. By last developing, there is a means of sustaining the poor people providing jobs, providing health, at least minimal levels of education. And the donors have to do that, while they're asking these countries to take measures of austerity, reducing their debts in a way that we don't seem to be able to do here in this country, they have to have help, they have to have help, so that they can survive politically, no political leader can survive in any free country, with the kinds of austerity measures which I and others have asked these countries to undertake, unless they are provided with some assistance to cushion the impact, and as I say, provide some measure of some kind of safety net in the meantime. Now, there are a number of problems, a number of obstacles that these countries face, a number of obstacles that we face in trying to help these countries. First of all, the United States foreign policy is characteristic for its lack of continuity, and lack of reliability. It's hard for many of these leaders to feel they can depend upon the United States because we sort of go from one policy to another. No one can commit from one president to another. But neither can you commit from one Congress to another which is every two years. And you can't even commit from one year to another. Two years ago, after I had negotiated a series of agreements with a number of the leaders in Caribbean, North and South America. Congress suddenly without warning, and I mean without any warning, eliminated every dollar of economic support from funds from the United States. Just like that. I want to tell you, after persuading Seaga in Jamaica, or Febres Cordera in Ecuador, to take all these measures, which require greater political courage than we ever expect our political leaders to undertake, and then to pull the rug out from all of them by taking all the money away. What that does to the reliability of the United States is horrendous. We're smarter than that. But we don't seem to have a political will and a political mechanism, which enables us to provide greater continuity. One area that I'd like to go into before I get to violence, before I get to narcotics, has to do with conditionality. If any of you follow the debate on non-military assistance, and it's hard to do that, because the papers concentrate so much on the countries and the Sandinistas and the military assistance, but if you do follow it all, the basis on which we provide economic assistance to these countries, conditionality comes out very, very heavily. It's in the forefront of much of our discussions with Congress and congressional committees. And it's not much understood. There's a lot of confusion surrounding conditionality. In other words, the conditions under which we provide economic assistance in Central America and the Caribbean, we're providing a large amount of course. The position that we have taken has gone from on the one extreme, what I would call an extreme, basically, in the Carter administration, of handing it out without much conditionality at all, just to help in the idea that they need help. And somehow providing funds is going to resolve in some good things happening to the early Reagan Administration, which says, if you're our allies, if we can have military bases, we'll give you money. Both of these breed dependency, both these undercut the will and the capacity of developing countries to develop themselves and stand on their own two feet. They're self defeating, in my view. One thing I liked about the Kissinger Commission is the way in which it tied the conditions under which we provide assistance to the to their performance. But I found when I came in, that those arrangements, and the steps that these countries were being required to take were primarily written in the United States, written in Washington, to a large extent by people who didn't really understand, but even when they did understand, and some of them were pretty good restrictions or limitations or guidelines. Nevertheless, they were not homegrown. Or if you're hitting a small Latin American country, a country which is already sensitive about Yankee imperialism, a country that is in which it is politically difficult to speak in a friendly way toward the Colossus of the North, to be forced to accept help from the United States, on condition that you carry out a whole series of unpopular, politically very unpopular measures that the US measures is demeaning that political leadership, it weakens the capacity that political leadership to exercise leadership. It undercuts the will to implement and not surprisingly, when the first thing that goes wrong, the first problem that comes up, it's blamed on the United States, at some made in US plan, a Yankee plan that was forced on us. They walk away from it, they walk away from it. I eliminated all of our conditionalities except one. I said the one conditionality is that you missed the president ,develop a plan. Our economists will talk with your economists will give you data, we'll exchange information. But you have to come in with a plan that addresses these basic problems that you've faced. And when you do that, come in with a plan that really addresses the problems and we'll provide funds to you. I think I mentioned this afternoon but unfortunately, all the first cases I ran into was El Salvador. And El Salvador, President Duarte is very very popular both in the White House and on The Hill. He's our strongest ally in Central America. He thought, and everyone else thought, and frankly, I do too, that he could make an end run, either to the White House or the Congress or both. And get back to business as usual, he could go ahead and get the money without really doing anything in a way of dealing with inflation, dealing with debts, dealing with human rights. Human rights is one of the conditions I put in I asked him to deal with corruption. I didn't tell him how to do it. I said these are things which you need to address, in order for me to be able to defend using the taxpayers money of people in the United States, in El Salvador, rather than addressing needs here at home in the United States. That went on for weeks. It went on for months. Secretary Shultz called very concerned about what was happening with respect to our strongest ally in Central America, if not the Western Hemisphere. And the role that he was playing in dealing with the country issues in the Sandinista issues. I had a call from the head of the National Security Council was then Mr. Carlucci. also concerned to the credit that both of them they didn't direct me to this stop, cease and desist. They just wanted to make sure that I was aware of the heist game, stakes game that was going on. Finally, after nine months, they did come in with a plan and we did a little negotiating around the edges. Duarte, I said, no conditionalities Mr president. He said, What do you mean no conditionalities. He said, I'm the conditionality. And he laughed. He laughed. And he implemented it. It was his plan. He could stand before his people and say this is El Salvador plan. This is my plan, which I have formulated, not the United States plan. As I mentioned, this afternoon, when I left I had a very nice note from President Duarte, because he felt that he had gained stature. He gained strengths with his people through that process. There are going to be many other impediments that make this job very difficult on the part of the leadership of these countries and and on our part, in responding to their needs. But I wanted to focus a bit on the problem of narcotics and violence. And in some cases, the two are rather interrelated. The fastest growing narcotic use in the United States by far of course, is cocaine and crack. These are derivatives as a Coca Bush that grows in many places of the NDN. But particularly in Bolivia, Peru, to some extent, Colombia. It pays farmers roughly 10 times as much income per Hector, as other crops do. Consequently, the economic leverage is very, very strong. It produces so much money and the mafia, the narcotics mafia, has so much funds at its disposal that it is able to bribe at a level far beyond what we've experienced in the past. It's almost an order of magnitude Well, sometimes it is more than an order of magnitude beyond what you typically see elsewhere. In terms of offer or bribery. I don't know how many people accept these bribes. I think quite a number do, at the same time, I think it's perhaps surprising that not more do and view the potential value of what they're able to offer. We do know that a substantial amount of the Bolivian economy is involved in narcotics trafficking. But consequently, when you attack it, or when the president of Bolivia attacks it, he's threatening the livelihoods of 1000s upon 1000s of people in his own country, many of them poor farmers, many of them representing an important political component of anyone who wants to be elected president is also attacking an organization which is very skillful in terms of physical threats, kidnapping, murder, torture. It was only in 55, that the government was able to go back into the Chapare Valley of Bolivia, which is the second largest coca growing place in the world. My first visit there, I had heard the President, his people explain how they were attacking coca growing and reducing the amount of coca. I went into the valley it's quite away from La Paz, down in the upper reaches of the Amazon, got out into the area began talking to some of the campesinos looked at some of the records that the the government people had that were out there checking the eradication. And I discovered with the help of one of two of our mission people, I discovered that the plan was in fact, providing an opportunity to greatly increase not decrease the amount of coca growing. It also had a provision which said that any community which was participating in this program, extensively to reduce coca but wasn't reducing it. Any community that bought into that the government would agree not to pursue the traffickers in that area. In other words, the protection for the traffickers. So, through the process of totally distorting what President Paz had in mind, you had both the traffickers were really had a great, they were increasing the amount of coca that was coming in. And they were likely protected from interdiction efforts from enforcement efforts. But I stopped that on the spot. And that was not a popular move, by the way, is very unpopular. And it hit the headlines the next day. Matter of fact, we were hurried out of the valley. Very, very quickly, I might say. There are quite a few of you here, but I am going to pass around some of the pictures I passed around earlier this afternoon. To give you a little feel for what I'm talking about. This first group deals with the Chapare Valley in Bolivia. And you'll see several pictures, looks like at first glance, the green lawn in front of the homes. These are not green lawns. They are tarps covered by green coca leaves that are out to dry. They're then picked up by little trucks, pickup trucks, you'll see pictures of several pickup trucks that then haul them to the laboratories where they're processed into paste, and eventually in the crack and then go to bigger laboratories where they're refined into cocaine. You'll also see several coca fields where these bushes are growing before the leaves are stripped. And you'll see one picture just by coincidence, they took a picture at the very minute I was making the decision to withhold USAID net amounted to about $35 million in that one Valley US economic system. So that was quite a shock to those people. I went back about a year and a half later. And I'm not sure I should have but I did because we were providing more funds to try to help them find alternative income if they were to stop growing coca. And we had put in motion an educational program, through television, through radio spots. I mentioned we had to buy Life insurance for the people who worked for the television station because of the death threats that they got by putting on videos that shows how serious the paste was affecting the health of many of the young men and women in their community. visual evidence of how the health had deteriorated. All this was of course threatening to the mafia. So, a lot of death threats. I went back in, as I say, to try to work with some of the leaders in the community and see if we could expedite the program for eradication ends and substituting other forms of income. We somehow we got separated from most of our guards. Someone said that, that was done by design. I don't think so I think it was ineptness. Probably on my part and everybody else's part. Whatever the reason, we got separated, and we got a word with them that they were going to kidnap me. I extorted data that they really did. On the other hand, I wasn't sure that that was a rumor. Then we got word that they the leaders of the Coca Growing Association wanted to meet with me. Well, I thought that maybe if we met in a kind of an open area, I'd be a little less likely to suddenly somehow disappear. So I said, all right, I'll do that. By the way, I love western movies. I like John Wayne, not just because he's from Iowa. Borrowing from western movies, I said I agree to this, provided they leave their guns outside the meeting place. And they agreed to that. So we went to this place. It was kind of like a place in Iowa, where you sell livestock. It had a roof over it, but it's kind of open air too. They left their guns outside. But what I hadn't thought of it all shows my lack of experience in Latin America, is that they had these huge machetes, which they did bring in to the meeting room. I was pretty uncomfortable. But as we got into the meeting, our guards finally found us. It was not a friendly meeting. It was not a friendly meeting at all. But we did meet with them and got out of there. But the reason I'm going into this is that about four months ago, almost exactly four months ago, I made my last visit into that valley. The educational program had begun to take hold. And we met with hundreds of farmers. There were no threats. Well, there was a threat to the embassy the other day, I forgot this the embassy had to close down for two days. But you know, that you can get along without embassies, I hope that's not recorded. Strike that from the record. But out in the valley. In the valley, the farmers were no longer afraid to meet with us, at least a number of them were afraid. A little anxiety was evident but they were willing to meet with us and meet with us in groups and talk seriously about growing fruits about doing other things, training that gives them an opportunity to make a living other than growing coca. I feel very strongly that education is the most important element of a program dealing with narcotics, even though I would argue that by itself, that's not enough. I think you do have to have interdiction I think you have to have eradication. You have to have help in finding other means of of livelihood. But education is terribly important. And the most exciting thing in Bolivia was last summer when we help finance well, we did finance a series of marathons that were run in the four largest cities of Bolivia. And La Paz there were about 4000 youngsters that participated in that marathon that ended up in the stadium. About 15,000 friends and relatives were there in the stadium waiting for them. And there was a big then TV program carried by radio throughout Bolivia, Anti-narcotics. No one would dared Participate in organizing that a year and a half earlier. No one. Make no mistake about it, the narcotics traffickers and the narcotics effort is still very strong in Bolivia. Four years ago, it almost controlled the government before Paz came in. It still controls a good portion of the economy of Bolivia. But the silver lining is that education and some degree of enforcement have combined to help and if somehow Bolivia can continue it's strong leadership in this area and the United States will have sense enough to provide the help which now we're on again off again, they don't know whether we're going to provide help or where we're going to pull it away. We can continue to provide help and have some consistency in our foreign policy in that respect. I think there is considerable hope in Bolivia, but it could go the other way. Peru is more difficult. Peru has more terrorist groups. It has the largest coca growing area in the world. In the Alto Huallaga and I'll pass around some of these pictures will show you how it looks in Peru. Like we'll see is a series of air strips in the jungle. I took these pictures on just one swing by chopper over an area that Colombia, Peru and Ecuador converge. You'll see a whole series of air strips you'll see some of the plains of the traffickers. You'll also see some of the land that was being stripped when I was down there was for every hectare that's eradicated there a larger number of hectares that are being planted in Peru. You'll see also that this is hilly land, you'll see that they strip the hills of trees, pull the trees down to the bottom and burn. They plant the coca on this land which is not very good to begin with. It's rather fragile land, very hilly and some of it is planted vertically, the rows are planted vertically. It's a combination, which reflects the most dramatics but despoiling the land I've ever seen. It exceeds even what the Gang of Four did in China. And I thought that was pretty dramatic. Perhaps not an area, because China's so large, but in a given section, this is more dramatic, even then what the Gang of Four did under Mao China. The airplanes that you see up close, by the way are our planes that have one of them. They suspect as we went by, had a lot of cocaine in it. And after we took a picture we found out that it did. One of the choppers you'll find is one we went in. Which by the way we couldn't get in when we wanted to. It's only occasionally that you can get into the upper Huallaga because of the terrorist groups, The Shining Path, and some other terrorist groups will attack anything anywhere. They're anti establishment. They're not ideological, they're not communist. They're not anti-communist. They're anti establishment. And they had linked with the narcotics traffickers, very heavily in Peru. We had two choppers, one of which was blown up. Two of our people were killed. This one that I went in, as I mentioned earlier, we counted 22 bullet holes in it that have been patched. They, just to give you an indication of how serious that situation is. Again, several of you've heard the story. About a year and a half ago, I guess it was a large group of about 400 men were in the upper Huallaga uprooting Coca, eradicating coca. They were making some headway, traffickers combine with the guerrillas surrounded them, ambush them. They called for help. The government said in a column of 99 heavily armed policemen who in turn were ambushed had to fight their way out. And the military had to come in to rescue the whole group. This is pretty serious business. It's very hard, very hard for communities to develop in that kind of environment. It's virtually impossible to progress with respect to democratic processes and institutions in that kind of environment. It is really a horror story. And in Peru, it's getting worse. I have, on several occasions, told Congress that I'm very much concerned that unless we provide more assistance and provide steady assistance in this area against the narcotics in time, we may well find a large portion of the NDN part of South America, several times the size of Iowa, being controlled not by governments that are elected by the people, but by governments that are controlled and operated by the narcotics traffickers supported by the guerrilla groups. I'm very much concerned about that possibility. And what it might mean in terms of terrorist factions in the Western Hemisphere. The one little story that was kind of interesting; We were looking for coca in Ecuador, where they're growing coca maybe, coz Febres Cordero, has a very strong policy against the narcotics traffickers, he's been very effective. We found it very difficult to find coca growing in in Ecuador. And we finally found an area where there seemed to be a small clearing of about, I would say, about half an acre. We landed in that, we didn't have the military group with us. We just had a couple of guards. Bender was guarding me at the hotel. Just when were landing in that little clear jungle area, someone said, there's a laboratory. And sure enough, there was a narcotics laboratory. It's at the end of clearing. Well, what do you do? When you find something like that, normally, you have a contingent of 22 military armed military men, when you go into dismantle a laboratory. We had two pistol carrying Well, one had a pistol and the other had a gun. We decided that we couldn't just walk away from it. So we we landed, one of my guards jumped on the plane, he fell flat on the ground, the pistol bounced over. At that point, I thought that was probably a mistake. We didn't know, you know, who was there, what kind of guns might be pointed at us. But we ran over, stumbling over, got this little laboratory. I wish I had a picture of the laboratory, the little ramshackle thing. They're very inexpensive. I have to tell you, not much in the way of sophisticated equipment. We broke everything we could, we pile it and pour kerosene over it because they use kerosene in the processing of coca leaves. As we're intending to burn, everyone looked at everyone else for a match. None of us had a match. So who was going to go back to the chopper and it's an open territory back and forth. And I didn't volunteer, but someone went back to the plane couldn't find a match in the plane. Very embarrassing situation. We assumed we were being watched. So what we did was a few things that were most durable and most difficult to replace, stinking to high heaven, we took back to the plane, put on the chopper and flew back. The president of Ecuador heard about it, I'd have to meet with him the next day. He thought that was the funniest thing he'd never heard of. And he talked about it to the press call it The Matchless Raid. And here's a picture of the group. We got back in the safety of the chopper, and we were congratulating ourselves for getting out of the way of not not congratulating ourselves for having destroyed this. Well, I just want to say that we're dealing with people that are really very courageous, far more courageous, and we give them credit for in dealing with problems of violence and narcotics that are very serious in Latin and Central America. We've got the Civil War in El Salvador, We've got the Sandinista Contra problem, which seems like it maybe beginning to be diffused now, we had until recently, a very ruthless suppression of guerrillas in Guatemala. Whether that's a way to do it or not, is a very interesting question. We have Noriega in Panama. The violence is a major deterrent to economic growth, social stability, and democracy. Despite all that, we do have more democratically elected leaders in Latin America and the Caribbean than in its history in the history of the Western Hemisphere. We do find in Central America that there is a reversal of the economic problems. The growth is modest, but it is improving, we find the health is improving, not rapidly, but it is improving, education is improving. But if we could somehow get rid of the major part of this violence, and the threat of narcotics, I can't see how these countries could help but take off and be real success stories, at least in the most part. Why don't we open it for questions? Comments, disagreements.\r\n\r\n- I had a comment. When I heard you talking about sending the army in and the high rates of violence and corruption. I thought you were talking about Washington DC, but..\r\n\r\n- We haven't quite progressed that far yet. We've got all the crime in Washington, but we haven't sent the army and yet. It has been suggested. 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And, and by the way, I, I'm not,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=806.41,811.373"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I, I'm very dissatisfied with both","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=812.327,815.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the executive branch and the Congress","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=815.02,817.28"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in terms of the whole country issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=818.954,820.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't agree with either one of them","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=820.34,822.36"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but that's not my area - thank goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=822.36,824.373"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(Man #2 laughing)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=824.373,825.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Mr Aim:\u003c/strong\u003e I think we, I've run out of time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=825.82,826.653"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Man #2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, thank you very much and please,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=826.653,828.121"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"(Crowd clapping)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=828.121,830.871"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25302/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/025/302/original/AV203836_Drugs_and_Trade_Development_b.vtt?1620124123","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/025/302/original/AV203836_Drugs_and_Trade_Development_b.vtt?1620124123"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25303","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV203836_Drugs_and_Trade_Development_b.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186/transcript/25303/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- [Mr Aim] I doubt that it'll get any worse. Uh, I, I don't think the improvement is going to be very substantial, so long as Noriega is there. Noriega will be there as long as either he's alive or, and/or the military support him. Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Woman #1] I was curious what overtures your department has been making towards Paraguay in light of the change over in regimes and the belief that General Rodriguez will be elected on May 1st and considering that Paraguay is increasing in the drug business.\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Well, Paraguay is a little bit like Haiti in that uh, we have provided assistance to non-governmental groups in Paraguay. We have very good relationship with the people of Paraguay, and we have a uh, a fairly substantial program in Paraguay because Paraguay has stronger institutions than many of the countries we're talking about. It does not involve large amounts of US funds, but our influence has been pretty, very substantial, particularly among the, the poor people and particularly among the small micro-entrepreneurs. So, our policy, as least as it was when I left, was uh, to, to continue, and, and to some extent, increase what we've already been doing in Paraguay, where we've got very good relationship. Haiti's another country. When, when they, we, we helped the Haitis get ready for the elections, which was very successful in so far as the voting on the constitution was concerned. And then when it came time to elect their leaders as you know, they, they, the military shot up to place killed a number of people at the polling places. 10 minutes after we got word of that, I suspended all aid to the government of Haiti, but I continued, and slightly increased, I would like to increase it more, The assistance to non-governmental groups in Haiti, which we, is still the case today. I had dinner with the ambassador, the Haitian ambassador, Saturday night. I found that fairly encouraging. I, I've just a little bit optimistic toward Haiti, not a lot but a little bit. Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Woman #2] Um, just in terms of the US provide go towards, um, are some of the programs more progressed regards to the local towns get much proof of all the funds or is um basically um, handed down from the government and non programs or non-governmental programs?\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Uh, no, major part of it either goes to the the small organizations or individuals, or goes to the government as a pass through. Now there's some things which that's not true. So the funds and the economic stabilization do go to the government to, to, um, so that they can procure materials such as oil that are needed for production needed to produce jobs. But a major part of the, of the economic assistance and development assistance goes to these micro-entrepreneurs we're talking about and health organizations, PVOs - private voluntary organizations working in the educational areas. Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man #1] What is the vision of the International Policy of America, related to the control of contracting to source the value, coca value, in place in names ...\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Uh, toward, policy towards the what?\r\n\r\n- [Man #1] I mean, what's the, the vision of the policy, American policy, towards the state coup de RA babu that the coca leaves has disintegration such as Bolivia, or Bornu, or Ecuador? Just that is the policy, it has tried to kill the production of these crops, or there are some attitude, uh...\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Well, they, the policy,\r\n\r\n- [Man #1] Yes, I'm talking about the policy.\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Yeah, there, there are several elements to the policy. One is, is of course the, the interdiction, interdiction - to interdict the flow of, of Coca leaves. And if that's not interdicted, the flow of cocaine, we don't have enough resources do that very effectively but that's part of it. The other is the eradication, helping the farmers who eradicate, a third is helping them find another source of income. And the fourth is the education program I talked about. Does that answer your question?\r\n\r\n- [Man #1] Yes, in some way because, and Bolivia?\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man #1] And I know what's the, the situation, sometimes the decision of try to implement or, or try to evade some international policy as in to eradicate the produce of coca crops, or coca, the production of coca, but sometimes the real battle is something more. Its cultural also, the consuming of coca and the migration.\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Yeah\r\n\r\n- [Man #1] The US state is trying to barrier because the producing of coca is not just for produce cocaine. We have the producing as cultural value to us in the modern places, for example in China respect the use of rice, we respect the consumption of coca's leaf.\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Yeah, well that's, that's an important distinction. We serve in our embassy, in La Paz, coca tea. I drink it when I go down there. The, and the coca, coca leaf is actually helpful when you're at, at those high altitudes. So there is traditional use of coca, in terms of the coca leaf, which is what he's talking about and that is permitted to continue. But the illicit use of it, which is to produce cocaine, and the crack, and paste, is what the Bolivians have declared illegal. Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Woman #3] How do you justify so much for an aid when the national budget is in such a deficit situation? And what things do you think are most important in aid, and what countries...\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] How do we justify aid when our, we have such a serious budget problems here in the United States, which is a very good question. I'd say a couple of things: first of all, as I said earlier, it is important to put it in context in that the person of our budget devoted to economic systems has steadily declined it is much smaller than it used to be. Secondly, it's small, much smaller than most other advanced countries. We are not helping other countries in proportion to our income to the extent that most advanced countries are. But the other side of that coin is, is it's also to our Southeast interests, is to our Southeast interests. Most of the opportunity for exports in the United States, increased exports. And the jobs that go with those exports are in the developing countries. But that potential for exports, and US jobs is not going to exist so long as they have, as they're poor, as long as they have economic instability. They've got to increase their capacity to purchase if we're going to be able to export to them. Secondly, I think it's very dangerous for us to not try to do what we can to help these countries deal with the cocaine problem, and the terrorist problem because that has a spill-over effect, potential spill-over effect throughout the Western hemisphere. Finally, there are diseases, which are threatening US agriculture. PES was threatening US agriculture, which we need to provide help to these countries. The med fly, for example, which threatens fruit. We have a barrier, which is funded by the United States. It's right across Guatemala now. Well, that's not very popular in Guatemala. There, well, there are a number of other diseases if time permitted I'd go into it, but we have another, another aspect of it is that the research which is done on corn in Mexico, the research has done on, on, on beans and, and Colombia on bananas. The banana industry is threatened with extinction. And unless the research we're supporting in Honduras is successful over the next few years, the commercial banana industry, will become extinct. So there are a number of reasons, I think very strong reasons, apart from, from, I hope that we have some reservoir of, of compassion toward our neighbors that have serious problems. Yes\r\n\r\n- [Man #1] From, from your description, it seems that the problems were proportional, to produce, to fly in the very half of the coin. Don't you think that the emphasis should be given to the demand side or, or be given to the demand, or, or?\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Oh, I think the demand side is extremely important. I think it's important that everyone realize that what is happening to the people in the, in the Andean countries, the corruption that the narcotics have caused, the impetus that's given to some of the guerilla groups, because it feeds funds in the guerilla groups. What is done in terms of ruining the health of young men and women in the Andean countries. What is done to the fabric of number of their communities is caused solely by the demand in the United States. Not by a demand in those countries, because it didn't exist, it didn't even exist until the industry began to develop to feed the, the appetites of the United States. But we have caused tremendous misery. We have caused the loss of many many lives in these countries, because of the demand of the United States. This demand in the United States is an extremely important component because all the eradication, all the interdiction in the world is not going to succeed unless there is a curb on the demand and also on, unless the education program in the Andean countries, as well as the United States takes on a whole new dimension of urgency.\r\n\r\n- [Man #2] One more question, I think maybe, and then we will have squeezed our friend, Mr. Aim\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Alright.\r\n\r\n- [ Man #3] Uh, you talked about the guerrillas Latin America being involved with the drug trade.\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Yes. They, now I should make clear, that's not uniformly true. It's really not true yet in, in Bolivia. It is very much true in Peru is true, to some extent, in Columbia, but it's increasing.\r\n\r\n- [Man #3] I guess point, was going to be though, that will it be, well you didn't mention to have anything about US government involvement in the drug trade. Now, I wanna make just two quick comments on this.\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man #3] First, I wanna go back here, I worked Welch, when I was in 69s voluntary services...\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Uh-huh, yes.\r\n\r\n- [Man #3] A lot of people in my organization later go and work for US-aid. And I remember one day running into one pat and he'd just comes back and said he'd been out in the bush for a long time. I asked him what he had been doing, and he said, well, \"We had to move the group of Mole Hill Tribe\". Know as you know, the Mole Hill Tribe comprised the CA army once, and that's why they were undocumented. And he mentioned that when he moved the Mole Hill Tribe they also had to move the elderly opium crop along with them as part of the arrangement. Opium was the primary basis of power in Southeast Asia at the time. Here we have a member of the US resource, besides just one person. There seems to have been a very direct CIA involvement with drug trafficking in Southeast Asia. Now we have another group of, of missionary army called Punters. Now there is a lot of talk about them having been involved in the drug trade, or in-trade, in Latin America. And also now there's a lot of allegations coming out about Bush, and other top officials, who have known about this. I guess...\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] Well, I'm not a,\r\n\r\n- [Man #3] I'm not saying whether you agree with all this or not, but you didn't even bring it up and that is a,\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] The reason I didn't bring it up is because I've never seen any evidence of it occurring. It doesn't mean that there isn't some evidence but, no one has been able to find it yet. And, now that's not true in Laos. But I'm not too familiar with Laos, but I've I've heard enough to suspect that, that that could be the case. I've not seen any, any evidence of it with respect to the Western hemisphere, or with respect with the countries. And, and by the way, I, I'm not, I, I'm very dissatisfied with both the executive branch and the Congress in terms of the whole country issue. I don't agree with either one of them but that's not my area - thank goodness.\r\n\r\n- [Mr Aim] I think we, I've run out of time.\r\n\r\n- [Man #2] Well, thank you very much and please,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40523/file/112186#t=0.0,833.69796"}]}]}]}