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I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=21.97,23.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"understand your parents were Russian immigrants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=23.93,26.92"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's right. And you landed me on these events","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=26.98,30.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and how they lived abroad for 13 years. I lived in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=31.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one place and then my family moved to. 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She's a full time professional she and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3725.88,3729.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1012","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my son worked together and they both are full","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3729.21,3731.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1013","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"professors. 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Now it was right near","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3736.11,3738.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1015","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where she worked was used to go over the nurse to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3739.2,3741.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1016","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the next room. But that wasn't possible in my day","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3741.54,3746.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1017","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that didn't exist. As I told you. You couldn't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3746.76,3751.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1018","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"send a child to a nursery school was a laboratory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3751.27,3754.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1019","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And some wouldn't take them until they were 5 No 3","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3755.85,3759.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1020","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not less than 10. 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But the first","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3762.31,3766.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1022","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"three years you had to have someone taking care of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3766.3,3769.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1023","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it isn't always easy of course. 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I always say I don't know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3792.95,3797.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1029","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when we have a quality of the men and women as","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3797.45,3801.11"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1030","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well. A man scientists kind of is that having","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3801.18,3804.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1031","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"managed to have a career in the family","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3804.43,3805.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1032","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"nobody has ever asked about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3808.47,3810.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1033","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No I will say that men are becoming much more","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3813.6,3815.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1034","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conscious of wanting to have more time for family","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3815.88,3818.64"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1035","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3818.64,3818.87"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1036","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that is also changing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3821.83,3823.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1037","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What do you think can be done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3827.24,3828.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1038","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think they shouldn't assume from the beginning","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3843.37,3845.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1039","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that they can do as well as men. I mean that's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3846.28,3850.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1040","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very important that they have some confidence to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3850.84,3853.75"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1041","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be sure that they don't like this very attitude on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3853.75,3857.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1042","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"themselves. And some women who are very good have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3857.29,3861.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1043","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that problem. They don't know how good they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3861.4,3864.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1044","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They think they're as good as they should be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3865.93,3868.78"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1045","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well I think that just something you keep at it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3872.63,3874.85"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1046","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know I think then the great progress has been","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3874.88,3878.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1047","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"made. I mean when industry was forced a company","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3878.99,3883.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1048","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like DuPont Anderson they were forced by","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3884.0,3886.46"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1049","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"affirmative action to hire women they found out","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3887.69,3890.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1050","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they might feel that they were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3890.93,3892.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1051","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In some ways a lot of loyal and more dedicated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3895.19,3898.16"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1052","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well let them try having women before you say that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3899.43,3902.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1053","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think that's the one thing. 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I don't know whether we'll","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3919.98,3921.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1059","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ever get away from that but it's far more husbands","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3921.81,3926.09"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1060","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"do far more and leaves them in the way of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3926.12,3929.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1061","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"childcare. 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With some online sites think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3940.42,3945.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1065","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Against getting youth energy is the interview and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3948.95,3951.48"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1066","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I want to ask you what he thinks everything about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=3951.49,3954.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1067","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"him right now. 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And Ron","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4215.29,4220.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brownstein invited me to act the way he said I was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4220.3,4224.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the only one from those days who are still","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4224.56,4226.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sentient to come and talk about the days when I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4226.04,4229.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was a student. In particular thing let me talk","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4229.24,4232.12"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about here and who is the most distinguished","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4232.12,4234.55"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"professor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4235.24,4235.66"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4237.76,4238.24"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that and told of some of these stories","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4241.9,4245.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there as well. And one of the things that I tell","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4246.28,4249.5"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you was that my thesis which was coming in here in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4249.5,4252.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the paper. At least 10 years ago I haven't looked","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4252.65,4256.04"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at them and more recently was still being cited","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4256.04,4259.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and we have a 10 citations. In that year now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4261.33,4266.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's amazing. So this was. What. They said. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4266.31,4271.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thirty eight. More than 60 years. But that's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4273.63,4277.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"unusual. And one of my fellow graduate students at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4277.2,4280.26"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that time a fellow named Alec released his thesis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4280.26,4284.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But there was also something you cited. So I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4284.52,4287.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's unusual about that. So some people do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4288.12,4292.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember at least some aspects of work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4292.32,4294.39"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But as I say I would like to be remembered for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4298.18,4300.87"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well I think that there's a very good chance that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4304.53,4306.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that will happen and I think LUDDEN And then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4306.78,4310.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you're here that I want to thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4310.1,4311.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Robin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=4312.41,4312.69"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36662/annotation/1158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/662/original/MS0650_Cohn.vtt?1650911098","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/662/original/MS0650_Cohn.vtt?1650911098"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36663","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["MS0650_Cohn.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914/transcript/36663/annotation/1159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- LAWRENCE Sweeney and I'm interviewing Dr. Mildred Cohen at the University of Pennsylvania. It's March 19th 2002. Thank you for your time this afternoon. So I'm so open it up and ask you So what was your childhood like going out. I understand your parents were Russian immigrants. That's right. And you landed me on these events and how they lived abroad for 13 years. I lived in one place and then my family moved to. They always lived on the outskirts very far north in the Bronx. All right first of all. That. For the city. And from the ages of 13 to 19 I met in a cooperative. My father was very interested in. The Jewish culture and I felt that people who were similarly interested in and formed an organization built it from an open housing project and that's where I live between the ages of 13 and 19. And then I left home and I was on my own destiny. And your interest in chemistry did not turn away in high school. Well I went on a course I was very proud of my school we had two years of chemistry. Often I you know I could take the second year if you wanted to. I had an enthusiastic teacher. But that wasn't the only reason I had a friend whose father ran a couple of dairy salons and he also manufactured cosmetics. And he told both of us his daughter and me that cosmetic chemistry was a wonderful field for me. I remember that that also was possible for. These men. Neither of them were very strong friends as I always was. So. Interest in science in high school I was very good at math. I was on the high school math team I was the only girl which is true in school I was the only girl on the team. So I was always attracted to those things relevant to the social sciences. And your parents must have made your interest in chemistry. Well not my father. He and they both had a great respect for scholarship particularly my father who. Was very disappointed as I said something similar. They were my brother. My brother was older designed to be a lawyer. He wanted it. How did somebody got a page in philosophy. And so I chose chemistry first of all he encouraged me. He said I can do anything I liked because it will be easy and I could. And. Although. He he approved of my studying science he thought that was a scholarly pursuit. Now one of the major events going on during a time of growing up and never shaping what you were able to do. Well I should say for one thing I was very young when I graduated from high school and college and that was because I started school and just after World War One. And the schools are very crowded and the nice if the bright little kids. And so I got skipped a lot and I finished high school when I was 14 and I graduated from college did something good for my 18th birthday and I had a master's degree just before I'm months before I was 19 and so. And then I got a job. The depression of course having a tremendous effect on my life and everybody else's at the time my father's business went bankrupt and so on. So we managed to survive. But there was no money for me to go to graduate school. I had always worked you know on Saturday I was in. Working places like Macy's on Saturday and so on and I saved up enough money for tuition for one year. And I could live at home going into Columbia. So that's when I got my master's. I lived at home. And. I couldn't get a scholarship assistantship anywhere. I applied to 20 graduate schools. I should tell you I was a bright student. I was fired by the captain and I was very young which was in my favor or against it. But in any case no not in this scholarship. And when I tried to get a teaching assistantship at Columbia they wouldn't get to a Bureau. They go to a woman I should say. I was very young at the time and because Columbia College was all male at that time they weren't going to have any teaching and then so I I had a great sense that I could to go to school and I had enough for one year with them and my mother right now. And I had to take a job that was in nineteen thirty two which was still the death impression and I was just unbelievably lucky. I had taken the civil service exam. In my senior year in college the junior chemist and I passed and I thought I'd never hear from them but a year later they offered me a job. Turned out I had nothing to do with chemistry. They only me a job. And incidentally that was a few weekends they dropped my grant and through your scientific game and the difference in salary was a journey comes back to two thousand dollars a year thing is scientific and paid for in and it was a sum professional rating. Which I later found out was very difficult to change professional even though I was entitled to the professional name game. So. As I say I went and worked for two and a half years and in fact right before we started your masters and then the Sampson ends you your thesis I think with the masses and you demand your clients is doing something that if your brains were good they just gave you a master's degree when you completed the necessary because they didn't make a fuss over massive services. Yes. And. Many people didn't even bother getting medicines they went straight for the today. But since I had the money I knew I couldn't continue after that one year took me just a year to get a to say no. In fact I was very disappointed that they didn't let you into a laboratory a research laboratory. When I entered graduate school he couldn't do that to pass the qualifying exam and to take the whole thing that you had to take at least a year and a half of courses. So it was the first year and a half. Now student got into early stages right. So then after you completed your masters once you started working in the government lab. And how was that. Where was that. It was. It was actually for the NACA which is the predecessor. It was the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics and it was Langley Field Virginia. Well it was culture shock. I had never been out of medical really. I never lived outside of New York City and to go to a small town in the south and it showed it was a culture shock where I worked. I was originally after they offered me the job and I have accepted. They sent me a telegram saying this job has nothing to do with chemistry. It's computation in connection with Aeronautical Research. Well I it was my nothing academic. I was up and I thought well I'll go down there for the summer if I can't stand it I'll leave. So I went down there and did I couldn't stand it because the pound the machine when they called a computer and an employment computer they call it a calculator calculating machines in those days it was a mouse and it was electric it was manual. And if you want to multiply five digits let's say my three 3 three You pounded out three times manually then you shifted your hands in the next column thinking you well eight hours a day of that was more wearing than being a typist. And I decide was not for me so I let it be known far and wide that I was a chemist and that was my job doing research and chemistry. And one of the section heads and entered the. Automated position and so I started doing research and I stayed there for two years. I was very interested in it. It was very interesting I was studying combustion airplane engines. And at that time that was before the jet engine had been invented. They were trying to. Combine the best characteristics of the diesel cycle. And the auto cycle I say in an airplane. The important thing is pallets of weights so you can't have a diesel engine. That's far more efficient because they're so heavy they have to be heavy because of the compression ratio the pressure so high the anyhow. So they were trying to combine the spark ignition and then when the diesel cycle available there was some project to develop. That was more efficient than a lot of others out of control. And at this lab and I think I radio were the only one. Oh yes. And how was that experience. It was a trial by fire. I would walk into an office and older men would stop talking. I had quite an experience. One nice thing about it was that my immediate superior was very sympathetic and very supportive. And so I knew my relations with him it was fine. And it's just that they would never promote me. They told me so I got to the top salary of a rank. And then about a year and a half. And I asked whether I would ever be promoted to my rightful position which was junior chemist. Which as I told you was a professional writing and I was so no. And I asked why he said he the reason she would tell me that the head of the whole organization was in Washington. He wasn't that women didn't believe in women scientists working in the lab. In fact he had seen me working in the lab and had issued a memo. He was visiting me so me and I was wearing an engine will have something like this. I was wearing a khaki kind of coat. Fellows what that those links to. And he said I was going to work in the lab. So I said All right. And he would give me something to work for me I the experiments so someone else can do. And they did. But they signed the young man came at a higher rank than I did. It was a physicist thank. And we got on time. Here I am in this way. But when I asked why the head of this nation's name was Lewis. Different women there were two reasons they gave me. One was that if men scientists were next to women scientists they invariably left their wives and married the women scientists. The other reason was that she might have men working at the home. I already have. You have nothing to worry about. So I decided it's time to leave that place and sound. So you left after telling me about the iniquities. I took a leave of absence and went back the next summer to earn some money. So although I was there about two and a half years. And many months I went to Columbia. I went back to Columbia because again I could live at home you see which made it possible for me financially. Assuming you had an interesting time for engineering. Yes. Because the projects I was working on lab were chemical engineering projects. I thought I had a very nice. Problem that I wanted to work out which was very suitable for a synthesis in chemical engineering and I thought I can take all the necessary coursework and then go back and work because they could let me work on it there. I get my period to say that but I guess it didn't work out that way because they didn't have any women in chemical engineering. I'm part of this planet. We've been looking for prominent female engineers any time of difficulty locating women that have had a career in the time period that we're looking at. Well I met one woman at Yale once when I was lecturing the likes of that from loved ones and she told me she was a German refugee and she had a degree from Germany in chemical engineering and when she came to this country she was told she'd better get herself a PFC in chemistry because no woman would hire a chemical engineer and so she went and got a PSP in chemistry and the engineering was for than men. That's right definitely. And you know that's a cultural thing. My husband had a Vietnamese Student now and his wife was a chemical engineer and I got to know her so well and she told me that in Vietnam the men are chemists and the women other chemical engineers because they think that women are much more practical and men are much more capable of abstract thinking and so they are the customers for women to be the chemical engineers but not in this culture. Interesting. Well I also interviewed. Former police and see what took place in France. They did her. She's had a successful career in chemistry here in the States. And she said it also was difficult for her because growing up in Europe it was right for women to have an education. So for her to come here and then have all these difficulties getting an education and getting jobs you say that I was just lucky she was lucky because she was important sort of mentor agent whatever that is. It was also a constant shock for her because that was the situation here. Well I'm not so sure about Europe. I haven't I haven't got all the papers but I know that very few women I do spend some capital in Oxford and London Paris and there are women all right but very few have tough jobs. And there aren't that many in Oxford that said that there was one million little. Kids. With. So and where I am in Paris I worked in a research institute and there was one woman who was in charge of the department legal as well. So I'm not so sure about. It may have been better but suddenly not equal opportunity for you. So then you were setting again and I chose heraldry as my mentor and. I may be repeating myself I don't know. But he said you know what. You know I've been my graduate student. And I said Why not. He said I'm not paying attention to my grammar things. And that I had some self-confidence having already published to think this is serious. And this fueled the rejection because in your sense that I have love and self-confidence in the first year I'm in that job that I have I work on a problem when I grow up. He really told me what it was all about. And I'm glad that he let me do it independently. So I felt pretty confident he was he must have been paying attention to me. That women even today still have this having the confidence to do their own publications. And they see that the male. Sex psychologist thought it was said to me now everyone has your self-confidence. But I was you know I was always. Successful in getting jobs or getting scholarships. But in my studies and other things as well. And then I didn't have a lot of self-confidence no person. I mean I and also the influence of my father. I shouldn't think I could do anything what happened to me. So I didn't suffer from that problem which is a great help in society when I'm in a discipline where the men sometimes when they are cameras being. You see what difference in my generation had in the current situation as far as women are concerned that the silence is them at that time the discrimination was overt. They make no bones about it. They told me Gloria they wouldn't give a woman a teaching assistantship. And when I got my PHC. Back here though it was the Depression still got my attention. I worked 30 so then I should get my degree. So thirty eight because they require a hundred printed copies of your faces in order to get 150 sorry holding 50 and being the lucky in chemistry if you'd had it published you could use reprints and have a special title page and cover print and so on. Otherwise you'd have to be sensitive to your own expense. And so you didn't get your degree and you turned it in. And so I take a bath and promise to 38 and so I had to wait until 38 to officially get my. But I actually finished at thirty seven and then in case Columbia had an outstanding chemistry the for those years really very good people and industry recognized that and they used to send their recruiters around in April. And each one of them like DuPont Standard Oil Linda hair salon would hire one apiece and the notices would go up on the bulletin board. By the way for me at that time had a very large student population. We had 75 candidates from the age to 200 graduate students together. And the notices would go up on the vulnerable or the chemistry department and they all looked over at the same thing. Mr. So-and-So from such a such company will interview all prospective employees of this year male Christian. Yes. Yes. So that's what I mean about being over there when I was a little boy. So I never had an interview of course I was out on two counts of. That of course is illegal today. And anyhow whenever I tell this story to you I think I say ha. I can't believe I'm about. It was very open. You're trying to get me a job and I remember coming to you saying nobody wants you. So when I got an opportunity and you're going to biochemistry I did. The situation was better than because there was no women in chemistry that were physically effects. How did that opportunity. Well as you probably know a hearing discovered deuterium. And at the time I was working with him he was concentrating the other stable isotopes and. Stable isotopes were being applied as trenches and biology and chemistry. And one of your students who have received make a couple of years was working with Shanghai one other thing that's for medical school and they were really the pioneers. We did the initial pioneering work on traces of our chemical studies and the video was then at George Washington University. We wanted to get into this field and so he went to them and asked them come you could hire you how to handle isotopes. And they knew I was looking for a job. So they suggested me. I was later told by Rittenberg that when the vineyard found out there was a woman I was suggesting maybe he met me. So that would be personal. He said he didn't want me. And so they told me I was the only one of the country who was qualified. And that's when I got the job. Now I'm 38. You are Sumerians. Yes. And he was a student at Columbia. Yes. Well he was an undergraduate at Columbia. But I was a graduate student. But we learned of course together. He was a very he was a senior in college. We met in a conversation about physics. And then he went to Princeton for a year and then he didn't give him a fellowship there. He got funded then yourself. He ended up in it and we went until he had a speech thing too which was a year after I got mine. And then we get married. And 10 and you went to Washington University. That was much later analysis later. Oh yes. That was after the law. And what happened it worked well in nineteen thirty seven. I took this job with the vineyard. And he in the spring of thirty eight he got the job as head of the properties at Cornell Medical College in New York. And then my husband and I figured out that there's a probability of zero that we would both have jobs in the same city at the same time. But we were very lucky there were no means of helping him to find out the household. He was a very good physicist. He was actually offered two jobs and one that was in New York. So he took that one. So he took a job in Brooklyn Polytechnic and I went to Cornell. I stayed there for eight years old during the lawyers I had my first two children during that period to my husband's double doing over you owe him by less than 500 Queens College and then the war broke out. I mean the United States got into the war and he left queens to work on the war crimes. And I stayed at Cornell all those years. And then forty five his project. After a day later the project ceased and he got a job at NYU and then in 46 he was offered a job in Washington University. And I march and hours and I couldn't get out. In force. To the event and then I feel that I. And he wanted to me because. I've learned all I could. You know I'm going to post that for a year. By this time and I felt you see the video around it his research on a team basis and nobody got to do an experiment of this. He wanted it done. There was very little the and practically zero. And I felt that I respected me greatly as a scientist who was an excellent. Scientist. But you know after four years I felt like I learned all I could. And I wanted to have some ideas of my own no emotion to explore about him. And he controlled my life I mean he wouldn't recommend me. I knew if I loved to read so I had to say. The only way I can leave is if my husband left me. And someone who is on a job in Washington University which I knew had a very good chemistry and probably doesn't take it. And he once told me if I may David was as happy as happy as it might be way. So the Washington University which is a very good year for both of us. And you were there for how eight years. Although we were away for. One year I was in Harvard Medical School My mother was a visiting professor and M.I.T. that. And the second time was spent with a sabbatical. I spent eight months at Oxford conservatory. And then much course imagine primarily because he was offered a very prestigious chair. He was a Donna professional. And uh. Interesting job he couldn't tell you about. And here I give him. And so. A digital era you followed your husband or I need you. So I came here with him when he was looking over the job. I didn't know him. And uh. It was a summer you know before the action came. And the head of biochemistry wasn't around anyhow. We had a conversation some anyway and they tell me there are no jobs. But. I. Get the sense he was the head of the Townsend Foundation and probably quantum physics. I knew him but he wasn't. He was out of town on their first visit. And when he came back and found out I've been here in the situation that and also a job that we were considering coming here. They asked me to come back. So I am back here a week later to get a cinema. And he offered me a job on the spot. So. I kept up until that time even doing just research. No. Two years before I came here for 21 years I didn't have a faculty right. But in 58. I was made an associate professor. I mean I was never my assistant professor. I couldn't very well became assistant professor after 21 years. I was an associate professor and that's the rank I had when I left Washington University. And that's the rank I got here. And after a year I was made a full professor. So I had a rather unusual climb up the ladder. So by the time you can do you can 1960 would say that in the Depression World War 2. And now it's starting to. It's giving near to the civil rights. Era. Well they don't reach out 68. Did you see a lot of changes or progression in opportunity. Well you know many women don't realize this. I've been involved in various panel discussions and you know the statistics and so on. There were more women studying science when I was a graduate student than there were in the 50s and 60s a greater abstraction of the total student body. But women in the 30s and 40s then in the 50s and 60s. Why was that. I mean I don't want to. I think it was because there drove a lot too. When the men came back from the wars they want women to have a lot of non-traditional jobs. They wanted them out. So the men could get the jobs and when educated women were the way they did it was they had this propaganda that they first of all you have to get married. Secondly you should have children. And furthermore according to Freud if you didn't bring up the children yourself the first five years of their life there would be little monsters and so educated women who got married and had children and didn't pursue careers because they stayed home and took care of their children. I know it is very exceptional that I had children and worked at the time that I did when I was in New York. And even when I was in state Louis when my child was in first grade she was the only child whose mother worked. She felt pretty exceptional. How did you get. Well I felt I would be very frustrated if I had to stay home and not do any work and I didn't think a frustrated mother was any good for a child. And how did you balance I did have a housekeeper who made it possible for me to manage is that oh I had a lot of thoughts her second time that I had. Crises. No. Do you like your career. Well after I had children I didn't have anything for them. And. Some of those. Well for example. When I had my second child. I. Had. Hired a new. Article on dating someone I met. A caretaker anyhow for my children. And she. I had to go back. This was during World War Two and I had promised to teach you see during World two they took in a medical class every nine months. And. I promised to teach. Beginning June 1st when a new class was coming in. And. My son was born on March 14th. And. When I came home from the hospital with this lady. She disappeared. And there I was stuck without any help. Well I had promised to come back. Into it first. And I was. It was very hard to get people to do that kind of work during the war for obvious reasons every rolling is hard. Everywhere. I mean they were having women and so a lot of women who had done this kind of work out of the country. It's like. Of course in New York. There was such a thing as trained baby nurses. At any rate. I felt I had to go back. I hired. A registered nurse to take care of this infants. And I got my mother to take care of my older child. And I went back to work. But after a week I mean I just couldn't afford this nurse who was getting me as much as I was. I. Told my boss that I had to have a week off to. Find someone. And I did take a week off and I went to an agency. So I mean that kind of thing. And then life wasn't easy because. She just came in and by the day and. And left as soon as I got home. So you put the influence of that but. I had this two year old. I had to. Feed her and make her and cook dinner for myself and my husband and read her scent. And oh well that wasn't easy. But then when she got. Something at three I consented in nursery school. Which helped a great deal because basically you had three children. Yes I think no one was selling signals. Yes I did. Obstacle to continue to expand your family. Oh yeah. Well. You know I had a good housekeeper. As I did on the third try and stay close to firing two to two of them. My god brother said me the next 30 years and owned three children grew up and any doctor. Yes. So there's a lot of stars in this. And that's something the family is going through today. So you must've done something right there. But what's more than a role in stable marriages. And. Then you came to you and that was in the 60s. And how was that experience. Well was fine. I was in an apartment. I should tell you that not having a faculty position at Washington U wasn't all negative. There were advantages. I usually that the was some of the families. And so the prove it I say this but the fact is that because I wasn't on the faculty I didn't have to teach. I was much more flexible. And if a child got really sick I stayed home. I couldn't do that if I were teaching you. And. Another thing was that I was not. On the tenure track. So I wasn't competing with my male colleagues. And so I got along with them fine. Because I was no threat to them. And lastly and most importantly from a science point of view. Because I didn't have to worry about tenure. I didn't have to publish or perish. And I can take the long range problems. Ones that I was really interested in but in fact taking a long time to do it. And women really couldn't afford to do that. And I could. And so for example I didn't publish a paper. I went there in 46. And. Only in 49 was its first paper. I focused on my own as I remember. And. That's because it opened up a new field. It took me a long time to get all the methodology and instrumentation and so on but I had to do it myself. So it isn't all negative. On the other hand you are dependent on the. You have to be in the good graces of your chairman. To of you do if you're a faculty member of a tenure. So it's in their present time. Now. What you also found in various organizations and oftentimes you a networking helps disappointing women in careers networking with women I know. I will say this. I was in a public crossroad for many years and then had getting 40. We got the Nobel Prize the year after I got there and she was very supportive. She really was. And I remember the first time I got invited to give a seminar at another university as she was as pleased as she met my mother. You know she was beaming up and she was very supportive. And her husband who was chairman of the department could help nothing. You know they were partners in science. The two of them they were together. So Washington University was a very good place. I will say that they had many more women than the fact that they have and they haven't as I discovered in 1970 they asked me to chair a committee on the Status of Women at this university. And I was shocked when I found out the status of women at this university. Tell me more about that. Well for example at the College of Arts and Sciences. They didn't have a single woman full professor in 1970 not one. I mean that really shocked me if Washington University then assemble they weren't. Anything like equal numbers of course but there were several interests are. A rarity here. There was not one not one woman's full professor they had a couple of associate dresses and there were two buttons here that had never been an adult. Well that was George Washington University to Washington University both in the medical school and the regular campus but there were many more women on the faculty member here. Why do you think that. Well the East Coast is much more traditional families. And so you know because it was an exceptional year it was true of all of the Ivy League schools. I wish when I was in Columbia there was one woman. Professor of chemistry problem she was an assistant professor. She retired. As an assistant professor I think. And. For twenty five years I didn't have a of money. So it wasn't at all unusual. But in 1970. You see I tell you a very interesting statistic. About that time 70 71 I gave a seminar on the third thing. And the man who introduced me was how it struck me who. I'm painting. I chaired a committee on the status of women at the Berkeley. And since he was introducing me He took the opportunity to give him a 10 minute summary. Of what he had found. And he really said something that shocked me that in 1970 they had fewer women on the faculty and birthday than they had in 1920 in absolute numbers. And you can imagine how very they expanded between 1970 and 2019. And they had fewer women. In numbers in 1978 in the 1930s. Why do you think that way. Well I told you what happened the 50s and 60s and then no women got trained in the 50s and 60s. So for another 10 years or so and there were very few women available new ones available. Well I don't know why it happened but I'm just telling you the figures. Sent you to this. I mean here is how long. It took us about six months to. And then we handed in a report. Which they tried to water down. What was the impact of that report that had an impact. The first thing they did of course was one of the recommendations we made is that that being a woman on every appointment and promotions committee of every school and you could only electricity for a full professor because otherwise it's a conflict of interest. If the associate professor. Comes up with the notion. About. The college of arts and sciences which is really the heart of the University didn't have a wonderful professor. So we said until they didn't have they shouldn't borrow a woman from another school to sit on that committee. So the day after the report was accepted by the dean of the College Board has never said on this. As college. So I said that I would on. One condition that as soon as they had a woman full professor I would get off. And so I accept that that in the first year I was on. We haven't a full professor from Jordan. She had a research on tenure track position. Thanks. We find. First what we thought the president next year. So it did have an impact because there are a large number of women compared to those members. It's not a lunch I. I don't know what the theory is. I think there something like to call the university so maybe two. Do you think that was also a women's movement. Oh no question. We never would have any committee without the women's meeting. Have an amusing anecdote about this chairmanship. I knew the man who was the president of the faculty of selling at that time. He was the one who asked me to. Tell this committee. And he said No I don't know what these women were talking about. I don't know anyone that discriminates against women whether we come through with the report. And he said Oh. And I said to him. I said to me you know. I said. It took me 21 years to get a faculty position. So he said a man would have been fired long ago. But by night we would finish our report. He said. Yes look there is discrimination. I mean it was obvious from that report that it was not over there i a. And then of course there really could be some of them tried to do something about it. But I think there. Is cause lag. Behind it and probably a rush to. See. See that time. Most women playing season signs were teaching at smaller colleges. That's where they were. Because the industry wouldn't take them my day either later and they did approach. But. When I come back they are saying they won't hire a woman. They might hire a B.A. as a technician. So. You faced you've experienced many instances of discrimination but that was institutional. You see many young women have told me that they've been put down by their professors or their colleagues. And so I never was. Organizationally I was institutionally I was I mean I didn't get them jobs papers and so on and so forth. I didn't get the rank. But intellectually I was always accepted. I never remember anyone downgrading. You're not helping yourself financially. Well it may have been because I had the self-confidence you know these things. Is actually reaction nice business if you think you're in Syria are you not sure about it but they're going to treat it that. So you've been in that time. And you've seen many changes. Oh yes. No he hasn't. First of all the number of graduate students Well the medical school when I started out. And every school including Washington University and this school when I first came to the medical school had an unwritten code 5 percent of the class. Well then that was true in all the schools that I was there which Washington Cornell Washington University. And that has changed now is now 50 percent give or take. Either way two percent. Not only here but undergrad and in graduate school there are at least as many women now in biochemistry and the life science in general as. There's been a tremendous increase in the number of things given to women. Wanted to in the life sciences. Why do you think happened to entering the work force because there's been studies that say that even though the number 77 women at 18 to Steve Wozniak physicians when they actually go out to industry or there after the numbers drop off again. Well there's no question of that. I don't know the numbers drop off but it is certainly true that. This university for example we have a disproportionate number of men in the highest rank a full professor. And that's generally true. I think it's more than just this university. Now at this university I was recently on another committee on gender equity. Tell me more. Well I really should find out. I don't know what that's. The report's been made public yet so I'm not sure I should tell you all about it. But I don't think there's any one to tell you this. One of the things we puzzled about was why it wasn't that there were fewer than a small percentage of full professors the number of associate and assistant professors. And we looked into the promotions and they were promoted at the same rate. And then one of things we found here I do remember is is that nature is that when I hired people at the full professional level. That's when they hired men and also I know the women who didn't make it to the top the number of professors left. There's a lot of competition was probably yes. So and So places like Harvard are increasing their percentage of meaningful professors all the time because they can stay open so to speak or move them or whatever you want to say from places that don't Taliban. So I don't know it's a complicated question. And there is also the fact that many women do drop by the wayside and not drop by the wayside and they don't go to the prestigious research institutions because they don't want to be in the right place. You might change some of the it's a complicated question and I don't. I know there have been studies and they don't all say the same thing but it has changed so much. For example I'm a member of course of the American Society of biological chemical and now it's called by chemistry and microbiology. When I was oh let's say in my 30s and 40s not a single award was ever given to me not a single one of the American Chemical Society except that government level which was specified to it was given to a woman in those days last year I went to the ISIS thing now and used these biological chemistry it was there were four awards and all four were given to women. Now that is just unbelievable to me because as I say when I was the age that these women are getting it now a single woman was being given an award and it wasn't that they weren't going to have it around they were the only one to actually yes if you get to a woman mostly the golden level which as I say is specified for men. So you think that's evidence of social change. Oh definitely different. And when I started out in biochemistry there wasn't a single department that had a wheel chair and now it isn't unusual that you can walk in multitude. Oh yes. But that was all later on. Well even so from Zambia when I got elected for the National Academy that was like and one other woman was elected in fact I have a 60 elected. Now of course everyone is upset because let's say only six or seven women get out six or. But then two women and nobody complained about it. I mean you know it was so taken for granted. That's what I mean by the discrimination being over. Everybody knew that women didn't have a chance. They said so often you see and what are the struggles that the younger women I'm talking about when I was in contact with them. Let's say in the 70s 80s is that they didn't realize this that there was discrimination against them and they didn't need it as undergraduates very often and then they came to grad school and found out that there was such a thing and they were devastated. They didn't know how to handle it they didn't know how to cope. But I knew it ever since I was this very obviously. And so I could it in a way I could cope better with these people who didn't know that it existed and had no strategies defenses. Tom. What do you think about that. In one sense and a couple of scientists in are for various reasons perhaps like you just mentioned maybe when you realize they're not having to kill the bastard girls over overtly early as before so that maybe women aren't as aware of these obstacles or as they don't know how to cope with them when they do meet them. Perhaps the consciousness isn't there isn't in the 70s. Guess how many women could could survive those obstacles in my day. You see you had to be very dedicated and pretty strong belief in yourself in order to put up with it because now they do get researchers the sciences and they do get scholarships and so on and so forth and fellowships and they get jobs. So I think. Maybe psychologically there is this advantage but in practical terms that I don't see anything going backwards. And you give lectures in and you have given we have. And what do you measure. Well I feel that one time I made a study I stopped I got tired of the Statistical Office of the women who had gotten Nobel Prizes. And that was two smaller groups. So I did the women in the National Academy to see where they had gotten their undergraduate education was a really coed school. Was it all women's college. How many were married. How many children and it was very interesting. What I found out now my figures are all because I quit doing this about six or seven years ago. But what I found was that well for the Nobel Prize women it's easy. There are only nine of the nine women to find them. All five had children. Of the three women who are educated principally in this country because three of the women who got Nobel Prizes coming for work they did in this country but they were all Europeans and educated Europe. That's Marie happened there and getting Corey and Rita Cheney and me to bring down the three women who were educated in this country and that's the government said Jack Russell the yellow I certain email only. It's not intentionally two of them were graduates of my alma mater entered college two of the three now when I went to the National Academy at that time I think this is going to change. The school the college that had us law graduates the National Academy and any other was my art a lot of college it's very surprising because when I went there the science education was miserable. But it's a fact. There was a single woman who had gotten her undergraduate education on the West Coast at the National Academy. So I guess that won't be true anymore. I think as time goes on and it will be true that helps us a lot. But at the time I stopped using the women of the National Academy. The average age was I 60 foreigners. That's certainly in the 60s and they had gotten their education undergraduate education four years earlier. So it reflected what things were like when you see the products of that era. Now I'm sure many of them will come from coed schools and from the West Coast coed schools and so there are very few women's colleges left by training centers and the women's college anymore. So I think the picture will change and probably has even in the last six years since I stopped making the up but I thought it was very interesting that this question of whether women could have careers and families as well that as I remember more than half of the women in the Academy did such as unusual almost like being conscious of the fact that are urban I don't like what a scientist is an astronomer. She has four wives next thing this thing has fallen the question of whether a woman can have it all. Yes basically. Well of course when you see that starting societies aren't interested in the answer necessarily. They're interested in the average scientist. And I don't know what that thing is. Because when you achieve obviously especially to begin with and whether a woman who isn't quite in that category can manage to have a family and show me a career too is another question. I remember when I was an undergraduate there were two women in the chemistry department. Neither of them was mentoring. There were a lot of women in small colleges and colleges that didn't do research but only taught to but that isn't sure today. But I think one of the reasons that we want to do this project like you said mean these are primarily prominent women that were interviewing but. I think in terms of role modeling and mentoring it's very important to see trends and how those women were able to have their career and their family if they had a family. You know I've never I never believed in this mentoring and role model business but I changed my mind. I think it's very important. I see it was important to me than it is to most women studying science. And I think it is important that they know that it can be done. I once participated in the early 70s in a panel discussion at Princeton that was organized by the women students like who felt very strongly. These were all science women scientists and we have a very diverse group. Everyone from a 20 year old English from computer scientists to an associate professor of physics from Italy. And then lastly I was the criminal field and we started out they asked each of us to get a shot at about five minutes ago. And what do you think all those really. They all have fathers we expecting them to achieve. It's very very interesting and why it would be the father and the mother. Well because in most cases they came to careers as though the father decision is a dollar or something. But I'm just telling you for what it's worth. I don't know how General that is but in that ten or twelve different fields. So I think that's an important thing for them. Very important especially when I look back and I think I remember my father at early age. We'll discuss something very serious serious topic can you much better. Yeah he was showing me his gun and Gino a friend of his library. And that was when I was very very young my time is my dad and how he influenced me. And you're right. Well it wasn't true of freedom loving multitudes. She's written an autobiography. Her father was opposed to her and. Well it wasn't true appeared in court either. They sent her to the steps the official school but it was an uncle in her case. What sparked your interest. You told us you should let us go. And I think you ought to know that. And I think I think this is a treaty that limiting successful tell that I tell young women if they ask for advice and some of them have if you get married be careful of marry. Now I have seen graduate students whose husbands seemed very supportive up at their jobs and then they got pregnant and they said you stay home you need a husband who doesn't just pay lip service. Who really is interested in saying that you have a career. Uh the other thing I suggest in view of my own experience is that you tried to work in a field that's new and develop skills that are unique and then they have to hold. But you have to do something different. You have to do something that makes you a lot I always say that I feel sorry for that. Really. A scientist does explain. But always told me every day how beautiful and how similar it needs to be. I mean they they're really missing something. There's nothing like giving your self-confidence. I have a husband like that. So I don't think it's at all. That deleterious to get married. I think it's a plus not a life that is simple. Now has your husband does something like recognized. Oh yes. My husband was elected for the National Academy before I was. The only thing I got that he didn't and I think he he said to me I was a better scientist. But once again it feels a different way. Can you. Give us a theoretical physicist. And get a medal of science. That he was something like this just before he died. But anyhow he never got that but he might have been a. Anyhow. No he was a very well recognized. There was no. Problem of competition between us. And of course. Even even at the end of our careers he's still living like. It as well by that time when we came here he was earning more than twice what I was getting. By the time he died. I was thinking 10 percent less. Governments. Around. Him but it's not equal to me. There was about time. I wish I had gotten lots of recognition. Now you have three children and think that dinosaurs and two daughters and a son and a couple of hundred biochem that was less than time percent. He's a cell biologist. By this I mean golly I came against him and he's a good scientist and you're done as a scientist. Well they will never get over. As I just said both psychotherapist. And. How does their experience. Working Professional. Well they had a hard time when their children were young. It wasn't easy. I have little children. Lots of work. Never is you know. But of. The day is more childcare now available than it was for my daughter in law for example put her twins in. She's a full time professional she and my son worked together and they both are full professors. She put those kids in childcare when they were six weeks old. Now it was right near where she worked was used to go over the nurse to the next room. But that wasn't possible in my day that didn't exist. As I told you. You couldn't send a child to a nursery school was a laboratory. And some wouldn't take them until they were 5 No 3 not less than 10. That's great because my father could send them to the Pentagon. But the first three years you had to have someone taking care of and it isn't always easy of course. But. Because I know some. Among public scientists I know a lot of it have to think of like something that you know that isn't a solution. I think childcare is the most important problem of a family. I always say I don't know when we have a quality of the men and women as well. A man scientists kind of is that having managed to have a career in the family nobody has ever asked about. No I will say that men are becoming much more conscious of wanting to have more time for family life. I think that is also changing. What do you think can be done. I think they shouldn't assume from the beginning that they can do as well as men. I mean that's very important that they have some confidence to be sure that they don't like this very attitude on themselves. And some women who are very good have that problem. They don't know how good they are. They think they're as good as they should be. Well I think that just something you keep at it. You know I think then the great progress has been made. I mean when industry was forced a company like DuPont Anderson they were forced by affirmative action to hire women they found out they might feel that they were. In some ways a lot of loyal and more dedicated. Well let them try having women before you say that. So I think that's the one thing. And many some companies are enlightened and trying to make it flexible so that women can have families out of work as well. But I think we're still at the stage where the mother has more responsibility as a father and children. I don't know whether we'll ever get away from that but it's far more husbands do far more and leaves them in the way of childcare. And. So I think progress has been made. As you well know by no means as I told you it is in my opinion no true equality but. With some online sites think. Against getting youth energy is the interview and I want to ask you what he thinks everything about him right now. Well now we have become an historic object. People ask me to. I gave it probably actually estimating in Chicago that significant contributions about chemistry will last in the first half of the 20th century and I get asked to write articles. I have been impressed now that by the way is being published by this new journal of biochemistry and molecular biology education and the ABC has these occasional articles called Reflections and by this time I've written so many and the two that I gave you and others that I've written. I write one history book an encyclopedia of NMR the first volume is dedicated to the history of the subject. I was asked to write an article on how I got into the field from and I've been asked to write. For example I wrote a memoir called Corey a biography of him for the loss of a national academy and I wrote a chapter in a book called Creative couples in science about family Guernica. I haven't spoken myself I think. Well I wrote a chapter in that and so I'm really surprised when I looked at my bibliography to see how many such things I've done and I've given talks which I will never publish that are historical. I get in a recent video to a year and a half ago I got an award and this is I have ceased doing research. What was I going to talk about. So I had to go to lectures and one of them I gave the invasion of biochemistry into chemistry which was more or less a statistical historical kind. And the other one was a scientific subject. Oh well that does seem to phosphate but I've actually gotten an invitation to go to Prague for the year thousand three and they're having an international historian of science meeting and they're especially interested in women and science and they want me to talk about Gary Coleman I I become very interested in the historical aspects and I actually do quite a bit in writing then of course I'm writing on memoirs so you know after I left I had to retire at that time and retire at age 68. I miss the year day but anyhow I took a job at Fox Chase. I was there for three years since my cell I didn't continue for another three years to day work and then I came back here and I did some research here too and um here he Elijah you're emeritus steps now and I say that mother. Yeah I am. I knew you were different. Is that okay. Because I've seen it like that. This is a problem we don't know but a professor there say you can be either. So you could be professor emeritus professor emeritus. Yeah it's right. It's confusing after five years of marriage. And evolve these experiences here are your words your. There might be a I mean you hope that cause insights anything you've published more than five years ago was forgotten but that's not entirely true. My thesis which was published in 1938. I gave a talk at Columbia they invited me on the hundredth anniversary of the Chandler building. Now I have a novel which is when the chemistry is there and has made a historic landmark. And Ron Brownstein invited me to act the way he said I was the only one from those days who are still sentient to come and talk about the days when I was a student. In particular thing let me talk about here and who is the most distinguished professor. And. I think that and told of some of these stories there as well. And one of the things that I tell you was that my thesis which was coming in here in the paper. At least 10 years ago I haven't looked at them and more recently was still being cited and we have a 10 citations. In that year now. That's amazing. So this was. What. They said. So thirty eight. More than 60 years. But that's unusual. And one of my fellow graduate students at that time a fellow named Alec released his thesis. But there was also something you cited. So I think that's unusual about that. So some people do remember at least some aspects of work. But as I say I would like to be remembered for. Well I think that there's a very good chance that that will happen and I think LUDDEN And then you're here that I want to thank you very much. Robin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73074/file/158914#t=0.0,4318.51102"}]}]}]}