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evening to the evening's lecture. And on behalf of the lectures committee and student body government who funded this, this evening we are, I think, very fortunate to have our guests for at least two reasons. One good reason, is that there's a great deal of ferment in China and a great deal of confusion in I think the Western press, about what is going on in China to a certain extent. And if you followed the press at all you've noted that the present leadership has said over the past, say six months, things like, the country can expect a hundred flowers in science and culture to bloom. And in particular that a new spring in art and literature can be expected. Now, this has raised all kinds of anticipations on the part of the Western press. That all kinds of things are going to happen. And you find projections based upon some of these statements that things I will change in the arts and sciences. Things will, we will find a new current and new cultural achievements, perhaps. And if you look at the reports in the last several months and even in the last month, for example, you can find reports that things are changing in China. And I'll just give you a couple as the illustrations. Peking radio it is said, now air is \"lilting folk songs \"and traditional Chinese music.\" Which apparently they didn't do in the past. Recently a Canadian Brass quintet visited China and played music from Bach-Beethoven, music that was heavily criticized as reactionary two or three years ago. The quintet was praised in The People's Daily on March 26th as or was praised for it's \"Skill fidelity \"and interpretation in lively bright performance, \"which left the audience with a deep impression.\" These are the signs of the new spring, apparently. And it's, but there's a very difficult thing to deal with I think. Because we've got for one thing anyway, we have a distorted Western journalists or a Western journalists distorting variety of events and the occurrences in China and interpreting things. And if you read their commentaries they are essentially perceiving this as a great sign of progress that China is coming round finally, to the Western view of things that there is, that you know, that the Western approach to the arts for example, is the way go, the only way to go. We have a problem here, this could be a pattern of continuity where we're jumping. I think we're jumping the gun quite a bit. It's difficult to tell what all these events mean. And another problem we have is just how much of a lid, really was on the creative arts in China. The performing arts in China over the past 25 years. And then of course the projection question is what kind of changes can we expect in the next decade or so? These are the types of questions that are being raised, at least in the Western press on China. And I think we are very fortunate this evening. When we have a lecture titled The Theater In Revolutionary China or The Theaters Role In Revolutionary China that will raise perhaps, some of these issues or maybe clarify them for us at least. And the second reason that we're very fortunate here is that we've got somebody who has experienced the whole thing, as Chairman Miles said once, \"If you wanna know the taste \"of a pear, you have to taste it.\" or something to that effect. And in our case tonight, I believe we have somebody who knows a great deal. She trained at the Shanghai Dramatic Academy, graduated there in 1952. And from 1952 and 1971, she worked with the Shanghai People's Arts Theater, performing primarily in plays about the history of China in the past 150 years, but also in some Western authored plays. Thus, she has been directly involved in the subject that she's talking about. She brings to us suddenly a whole new dimension of China that we haven't really investigated here at all before. I believe we are in for a very stimulated evening. And I'm very pleased to introduce Chen Wan-Chi.\r\n\r\n- Since 1972, there are at least 8,000 to 10,000 Americans, have visited China in the past five years. Plus of course, maybe few 100 or over a 1000 American-Chinese have gone back for visits in China. So I think a lot of Americans here now know something about China, and have visited a few cities, communes, and factories and usually brought back at least I think openly, I always heard very favorable remarks about what's going on in China, probably privately have some doubts about what they have seen in China. That's very natural because for few weeks and with a guided tour, what you can see is very limited. And particularly when you try to interpret it you will find it very difficult. So for me to speak here tonight I would want to explain that because of my own upbringing and my education and my work in China I'm used to certain concepts, particularly in my talk I'm used to certain terminologies which may sound very strange to you or even very repulsive to you because you're not used to it. But to me, it comes very natural. I try to modify it, so you can accept it or you can understand it easier for you to understand, but I think if I worry this too much, I worry about this too much. Then, you know, I won't be able to speak very openly or very straightforward with you. So I think I'll try to explain everything which I have experienced. I observed in my, during my lifetime in China. And if you have any questions, you can raise after my talk and Jerry and I both be willing to answer any questions. So first of all, like Adrian said that China is experiencing at now at this moment, some changes it's not quite clear yet but bound to have some changes because just in the past year, China lost three major leaders who had founded the People's Republic of China, Zedong was the first one and then followed by Chou En-lai. And then Nguyen Tan Dung last September he died. So what the Chinese revolution Mao Zedong led the Chinese revolution. And he paved the way for the Chinese people to match along this road. And he set up all kinds of guidelines and policies in every field for the Chinese people to carry it out. So up to this point, what the Chinese followed was Mao Zedong basically, although during certain years in the past, from the '49 to '76, there were times when other policies prevailed in China in a very short period, particularly in the early '60s from '60 to '62. But basically Mao always could bring back the, pushing the Chinese people along the way that he wanted, that he had charted for the Chinese. So what my own experience was based Mao's guidelines. And because what we went through in the cultural revolution was to review our work, reevaluate our work and criticize ourselves, and really understand what Mao wanted us to do. So, from the beginning I want to first introduce you to a very different concept of art and literature. That is, the role of theater in the Chinese revolution. The revolution I'm referring to is the revolution which led to the founding of the people's Republic of China under the leadership of Chairman Mao. At the very beginning of this revolution the Chinese communist party made it very plain, why it is necessary to include art and literature as a component part in the revolution. The theory behind this is as Chairman Mao stated in his article \"On New Democracy\", which he wrote in 1940 which says, \"Revolutionary culture is a powerful \"revolutionary weapon for the broad masses of the people. \"It prepares the ground ideologically before the revolution \"comes, and is an important indeed essential fighting front \"in the general revolutionary front during the revolution.\" And here I add after the revolution, it's soul task. The art and literature's soul task is to serve the economic base and to consolidate the new revolutionary power. This is the principle Mao had set for art and literature. So in practice, how does it function? The Chinese revolution always had two armies, the army with guns and the army with pens, as we say. Which means the cultural army, The communist party acknowledges the importance of army with guns to win the revolution, of course, Mao had always said the power comes from a barrel of gun. It always deemed, but at the same time, it always deemed the cultural army as absolutely indispensable for uniting her own ranks and defeating her enemy. So putting practice, from the very early days in the red army days, that was when Mao was fighting the nationalists from the mountains in Jinggang Mountains during those days. And then afterwards that's the long March from Jiangxi all the way to Hunan 7,000 miles Long March. And in the years of war of resistance against Japanese aggression followed by The Wars of Liberation from '45 to '49. And after the liberation of the whole nation, except Taiwan now, the theater art carried out the tasks outlined by Chairman Mao. Which combines education, propaganda, and entertainment in performing arts. In the tough years of civil war between the nationalists and the communists from 1927 to 1937, 100s of cultural teams were formed, which consisted of song and dance, skits, living newspapers, Peking operas, and its variation of provincial local operas, folk arts, all kinds of theatrical art forms which were familiar and acceptable to the masses of people. These cultural teams, which were formed by the communist party, marched alongside with the red army. And they produced programs to inspire and educate the army. Many of their programs were quite successful and lasted until today, remains to be very popular with the workers, peasants, and soldiers. And these cultural teams not only perform for the army but in times of actual fighting with the enemy. The men in the cultural teams turn into medical evacuation teams and the women became first aid nurses. So, they helped the fighting. And after the red army entered into a new territory taking in a new territory, it was a task of the cultural teams to calm the fears of the people, of the local people, explain the policies of the communist party. So as win the confidence of the people. All of these were done in art forms. It's not just talk but they would produce immediately skits, or a song or whatever art form, which would be very familiar to this particular local people. And the cultural teams would produce programs just to explain the policies of the red army and the policies of the communist party and to calm their fears, and make them accept the red army. So in the process of consolidating the liberated areas and carrying out various political programs, the cultural teams would produce programs and they would coordinate with the political movements. This has always been the tradition of theater arts under the leadership of communist party, all the way until 1949. Since the founding of the People's Republic of China, the conditions for the theater people had changed for the better, more their lives were more stable and they have better equipment and communications plus cultural exchange with foreign countries, became possible and gradually increasing after '49. Then this exchange with foreign countries, which has both its positive and negative effects on the Chinese people. Although the principle of the theater arts remained the same. There were times the cultural workers as we call them, because in China, we don't call them artists. We call them cultural workers. So as to make it clear that they are not a special group of people who are divorced from production workers or peasants in the countryside to indicate that this is just a division of labor between people. So you work in cultural field you're called cultural worker. He works in the factory, he's a production worker. So the cultural workers, after 1949, because of the change of conditions. At times, the writers and actors working in the cultural field deviated from the guiding lines set up by Mao. The deviation was caused by the easier living conditions and outside influence. And the confusion, what is the confusion? The confusion is who should we serve first, Are we going to serve the workers, peasants and soldiers, or are we going to place more emphasis on serving intellectuals and bourgeoisie in the city? Because in the red army days, there was no confusion. Of course you serve workers, peasants, many peasants really because you went through all the rural areas mostly the red army, what they took over was rural area. So you serve the local people they are all peasants. But once after the founding of he People's Republic, then you match into those major cities where you have lots of intellectuals, and you have lots of national bourgeoisie in the big cities. So, who should we serve first? This became a question. The other question was, whether we should, the relationship between popularization and elevation of art and literature, should we popularize first, or should we raise the standard first? This is one question. Follow this question is, use what kind of form and content to popularize and towards which direction to raise our standards? You see, who set up the standard, what is supposed to be the highest standard for art and literature, how do we measure it, if we follow the Western standard? Or we in China would say bourgeois standard, which means we should elevate our art and literature towards the direction of Western bourgeois art and literature. Which means if we reach that standard, then we're perfect. If we don't reach that standard, then we are low. Is that the way to measure it? This is a very important question. These confusions made the cultural workers at times forget what is needed and can be accepted by the workers, peasants and soldiers, and became overly enthusiastic in raising the standards of art and literature to the heights of the feudal bourgeois or petty bourgeois intellectual standard. Which as we found out later, when we review our work was a disservice to the workers and peasants. Because the result of this kind of elevation was undermining the efforts of the workers and peasants and soldiers, in their effort to build a new socialist China. The well publicized cultural revolution started in 1966. Was a review of the cultural work from '49 to '66 on a massive scale, inviting the whole nation to investigate and reevaluate the role of culture in a socialist construction. And it's process, the cultural revolution touched upon the political and economic fields. Now, here, I want to pause for a little while and introduce my own work and my own background. In 1949, I applied to study acting in Shanghai Dramatic Academy. Before that, I had interest in theater because of my family. And during the war years in Chongqing. my family was in Chongqing. The theater, arts were very, we're blooming in Chongqing because they produce lots of those plays concerning the war against the Japanese. And we had many good actors in Chongqing. So my parents used to take me to the theater, so I became very interested in theater. But in those days in China, at least I'm talking about the areas nationalist government was in control. The status of theater people, whoever worked in, you know in the cultural field wasn't very high. Particularly the actresses, were looked upon not too differently from prostitutes, because of the, theater were mostly controlled by the gangsters. And they would force the actresses to do whatever they want them to do. And if you will want to be in that field, if you were really after fame and position, then you would compromise yourself intellectually and physically. So that's the reason that the status of theater people particularly actresses in a society was very low. So although I was interested in theater, but I never thought I would enter that field before 1949. But when liberation came in Shanghai, there were troops, cultural troops, which were sent from the liberated areas because there were one quarter of Chinese territory. Long before '49 was under the control of the communist party. And like I said, they had their own cultural teams. They had their own production, they had their own tradition. So when '49 came, of course Shanghai became a new territory for the communist party. So you follow their tradition. The cultural troops were all sent in to this big city to educate us in Shanghai. So we saw many of those new productions and traditional on a liberated area productions. Like \"The White-Haired Girl\" was in opera form at that time. And also the several dramas. One of them called the anime \"Without Gun\" which means the hidden enemy KMT, Kuomintang agent. You know, this kind of plays, drama. And I went to see these plays and I was quite moved by some of them. And I find the acting style was very very realistic. And I could tell the actors in those plays were really part of the masses because they behaved and they projected, they depicted these peasants or soldiers on the stage, so realistically, you're bound to be moved by them. And forget that these are the actors, you know as if really is real slice of life, depicted on the stage. And it was very fresh for us. So on the other hand also the publications, you know right after '49, when communist party took over Shanghai the publications emphasized on these kinds of cultural activities. And they had evaluated these works very highly. So we could see that the whole concept of art and literature was changing. And the social status of these kinds of people was quite different from what we look upon the theater people before '49 in the nationalist areas. So I became interested and thought, you know, well now it's different. Nobody looked down upon these kind of people. And they actually, we looked up to them because they gave us such fresh ideas. So I talked to my family, \"I said, what about it?\" Because at that time the Shanghai Dramatic Academy was started to enroll students. So I said, I wanted to go. I convinced my sister and my mother quite easily because they saw things no more or less the same as I did. But my father was a little behind. He wasn't quite convinced that it's changed that much. So he objected, he said, \"Well can you find something else \"more worthwhile to do with your life?\" So I said, \"The world's changing, it's not the same \"as before, nobody really would look down upon me \"if I become an actress.\" So, but he wasn't convinced. So finally I went to apply and I went through the examination anyhow. But after I was accepted, at that time you see right after liberation, wasn't completely free. We had to pay a little bit of a tuition fee. So my father didn't want to give me that tuition fee. Finally, of course, you know, in China wives, although nowadays of course women are very independent economically, but even then in '49 guess my mother could, because the fee wasn't that large. So she could gave me out of family expenses, I guess. So she gave me the fee and I went to the Dramatic Academy. That was the first year of course, after that things became very clear. I didn't have any trouble. So that was how I enrolled in the Dramatic Academy. Since then I became a member of the Chinese Theatrical Circle until I left China at the end of '71. So to be an actress or a cultural worker in China is something very different, from any other parts of the world I think. Of course that's my thinking maybe there are places in this world similar to Chinese situation, but from what I read about other countries, even other socialist countries, I find it still quite different because the importance of the communist party placed on culture, the responsibility of cultural workers in China has greatly increased. We are not looked upon as just entertainers. Rather, we are more like educators. We are told it is our responsibility to use the form of theater arts to interpret the revolutionary programs and party policies and to set moral standards in society. And to inspire the people towards building a new independent socialist China. Any cultural worker in China who tried to seek self-expression, seek limelight, fame or position, sooner or later, this person, this actor or whatever you're doing in the cultural field would be subjected to a severe criticisms. The periodical rectification movements in the cultural circles are just aimed at this kind of people. So in order to perform our responsibilities as cultural workers and gear to the guidelines set up by the communist party. The Chinese cultural workers have to obtain the stand and the viewpoint of the workers, peasants and soldiers. To remold our world outlook, to see the society and the world through the eyes of the workers, peasants and soldiers, to put these in very concrete terms. This means we have to integrate ourselves with the workers, peasants, and soldiers. We have to go to the countryside, go to the factories and army camps. Not as visitors, just as a person go there to collect material from a production or to be an observer in these places, but to live, work, and study with them from time to time. Try to get them to accept us as one of them. This is necessary because it is the only way we would be able to understand their inner thoughts, their feelings and their inspirations. And our work is precisely to portray the heroes among the workers, peasants and soldiers. Our theory for creative work is to combine revolutionary realism with revolutionary romanticism, which means we are not acting only as a mirror of the society, but we also have an ideal, which we wish to fulfill. When we depict a person on the stage we depict a piece of life of society on the stage. We are not trying to depict them as it stands now. But as a society or a human being should be in the future. This is when the romanticizing comes in. In practice, the heroes on the stage would become the models in daily life for people. The impact of art and literature on shaping the social moral and the behavior of human beings in society, is so great. So from our own experience, the cultural workers in China feel they have a very great responsibility and also they feel it's a challenge. If you can really help shape the society and shape that behavior of human beings. Now we have throughout our work in China from my own experience, we have positive examples of our work, but we also have negative examples of our work. And this is very good because we learn from these negative examples. So we know what to prevent. You see, we put on all kinds of plays in the '50 and early '60 used to be, we have a annual schedule of say, we want to put on 12 place for this year. Then we have one third of our place selected from Western classics. Western classics and Western modern contemporary place. We select four of them and that will select one-third from the Chinese classics. And then we have one-third from Chinese contemporary which are playwrights in the theater would create, or if some other theater has a new play, we can always take take it from them. So it's one-third, this is the proportion we maintained for many, many years. That's why we produced all kinds of play in the '50 and '60. And because we always collect reactions from the audience we called seminars, we select representatives from different groups to talk to us, and also they would send in letters about their comments, their criticisms, or their praises to us. So we can evaluate the work, our own work. And there were also direct reactions when we put on a play on the stage. For example, we put on the, now I'll give you the positive examples, which we put on one play was called which was a play wrote for the, during the period of 1952. When the marriage law was proclaimed in China. This was because, this was the first law after liberation and try to protect the rights of women and children. And this was the play about a peasant girl who once understood the marriage law, who had enough courage to stand up for our own rights. Who in the play she was among the first ones in the countryside to have a free choice of our own lover. But of course in the process, she had to fight with her father, fight with matchmakers, this kind of this story. And after we produced this play, we took it to the factories and countryside too, and we find the reactions because that was closely connected with the movement during that period, everybody was in studying that marriage law and everybody was discussing about it. And it was a pivot in the society because it was such a you know, it's a breaking point in China, particularly in the countryside. The feudal system was so deep-rooted, whereas, you know a young girl looking for our own lover and have a free choice, that was unheard of before. And was looked upon as a scandal, if a young girl was going around with our own choice and, you know, fighting for our own rights. So when we put on this play of course the hero, the heroine in the play was such a young girl. So in that, when we presented this play, we get reactions directly from the audience because the audience immediately you know, relate to this kind of, some relate to this young girl, sympathize with her. Some was the older generation, those particularly probably fathers and mothers were really resentful, that we put on this young girl as the heroine on the stage. And this was, you know, what kind of impact. So, you get in a particularly the Chinese peasants and workers. I love that kind of audience because they are so straight and they're so enthusiastic, also they are so, how do you say, if they feel something they are expressing right in the audience. You know, this way, you get the direct reaction that you really, now you say they're not so sophisticated. You know, not like we have intellectual audience you never get anything from them because, because you know, they feel, \"if I express myself \"maybe that shows that I'm not sophisticated enough. \"So I have to hold in. \"If I want to laugh I'll laugh halfway, if I want to cry \"I cry halfway and I'll never show my emotion.\" But this has no problem with workers and peasants. You know, they agree with you. You know, when the young girl was fighting with her father and you have people from the audience shouting slogans supporting \"Right on, go ahead!\" Or this kind of, and then you have the other side with a you know, because they disagree with this kind of behavior on the stage. So, this in turn inspire the actors. I think, you know any actor would appreciate this because, even if you're not so not emotionally involved in this role, just because of this kind of reaction from the audience, they really push you right into that. So I find this kind of, you know, reaction this kind of direct exchange with the audience was very very exciting and very good experience. And we know immediately that, you know our work has some kind of impact on people's thinking. So it's true, we get the result because after the show, when we go to a local area in the countryside we usually stay there for a few days. And during the day we would visit those peasants. If they are working in the field we try to help them in the field so we can talk to them. And then in the early afternoon we start to prepare for our show. And so we have some dialogue with the audience during the day, so we can ask them \"what you feel?\" The next day, you know, \"how do you feel about play, \"what do you talk about?\" So we get immediately the remarks about, certain people feel very encouraged, because they see this is a policy. And because the heroine won in the play. And in the process, of course you explained, now what is the government policy now? You know what we are encouraging. So, and some people if they have some problems there in their mind, they can't accept this kind of new policy. They also can express it, and we can explain more during the daytime when we are talking with them. So this kind of exchange and this kind of experience I find it's, you know, from my description, I think you can find it. Not only we use our profession to depict something and trying to explain something but we follow up with our dialogues with the audience. So it's quite an educational process both for them and for ourselves. So in the process we understand more, you know, what's their inner thought, you know how they react to this kind of policy, how they react to this kind of relationship? So this is one example I think it's quite positive in my career. Of course, there are other contemporary place, when we depict some kind of, you know, positive character from the workers and peasants and depicted correctly, you often get this kind of positive reaction. But we also have negative examples, the kind of play we put on. Like I said, we used to put one-third, one-third, one-third. So we did put on some Chinese classics. One of them is written by Cao Yu he's a very famous Chinese writer. He's very respected until today. He's very respected but he's also a very very honest writer. After '49, he only wrote two plays one in the early '50, he wrote about the medical doctors who considered, this high intellectual and who these kinds of people, he was very familiar with because he himself came from a learned background and he was educated here before liberation. So he never really understood workers, peasants and soldiers in China. And he's very honest about it. He tried, but he just felt he couldn't write them in depth. So he just never produced a play about workers, peasants, and soldiers. The next play he produced in the, was late '50. He wrote another play was a historical play, It about the feudal war between Wu and Yuan dynasty. That was another historical play. That was all he produced after '49. But he's respected because he's very honest with his trade and he never tried to fool anybody. So, and he has experienced his writing technique but just because he couldn't, he can't understand workers, peasants soldiers. So he can't write about them, that is all. But we produced one of his play. One of his plays he produced in the '30, Sunrise, the story was about you would call her a high-class prostitute in the in the 1930s. And it could be interpreted as a tragedy of our victim of that society. You know, she was a high class prostitute. She was surrounded by people like banker, stockbroker, and homosexual and all kinds of people that she had to deal with. But she has conflicts in her own mind because she was tempted to that kind of life. And then she find it was empty and she wanted to get out, but she couldn't get out. And finally, she come into suicide and, you know she was caught up in that situation. She couldn't get out of it as she was agonizing over her own guilty conscience. And she couldn't get it on with this kind of people any longer. Finally she committed suicide. That was a story about this woman. And you see when we put a portion to us ourselves, to put one-third, one-third, one-third, after '49, even, you know, from our professional viewpoint every play we want to put on, we have to give some kind of social meaning, you know, you can't just say, \"I want to produce this just because this plays wonderful, \"just because the characters are so vivid \"and we want to produce it.\" No, this is not good enough. You have to find out to present to the committee or to the leadership that why, what kind of social meaning this play would have if we produce it? So for this play, we found the social meaning which was for the younger generation in China, who had never lived that kind of life and who never saw that kind of life before. Maybe it would be helpful if we present this kind of play and to depict that period of Chinese history, and that particularly a sect of life, show them and how decadent that was and show them, you know this woman became the victim of that kind of society. So that was the rationale of our play. But when we presented it in 1959 we got reactions from the audience. First of all, the audience was a little different from other contemporary place. Which means we attracted more national bourgeoisie in the city, who were familiar with that kind of life before maybe who had lived that kind of life before '49. And also we attracted more intellectuals from government agencies and from universities, you know these people who read more, or who have some kind of background of pre-liberation life. Or usually that kind of people we have in our audience. And of course, we also a small portion of the audience because we have surveys. You see, every time when we saw the ticket we'll try to figure out who came to see us, you know, how many, what's the proportion of production workers, what's the proportion of administrative workers and other kinds of audience? So for this play usually we attracted that kind of audience. And small portion of school students and workers. But the reaction from the audience was not so positive to us when we review it, because first of all, the most outrageous one of course was we got telephone calls from audience who asked our costume designer that where can she buy the same kind of high heel shoes whom the heroine wore in the play? You see because we reproduced that piece of life, right? And the research was good. So all the costume, everything was according to that period of history and evidently attracted somebody in the audience and the she looked around she couldn't find that kind of shoes in a shoe store. So she wanted to find out where we got it. So she can go try and buy a pair or something. And the hairstyle, you see because the heroine was that kind of hairstyle. And some audience was interested in the hairstyle and ask the makeup, you know, which hairdresser that we had hired. So this kind of reaction that gave us a feeling that this certainly was not the purpose of our play. And we didn't anticipate that we would arouse this kind of interest among people. You see the social meaning we had put in that play didn't have the, didn't realize, all right? Not Many people wrote to us and telling us you know, \"Oh, you know, now I understand how decadent \"the society was.\" And you know, no, we didn't get that kind of mail and we didn't get the kind of reaction. So, which means we failed. If that was our purpose, we failed. This was one example that we find that our motivation, or at least our outward purpose didn't come true. And another example was similar because we produced Western classic, and we produced \"Camille\", a French play. You know, the storyline was about the same. And then we also justified it with same reason say, show the French decadent society and that kind of thing. You know, the hypocrisy of that society, what drove Camille to suicide, right? So, this play we produced and sure enough, our purpose didn't come true. Instead, now we also got some outrageous reactions. Because that was more serious because we got a letter, actual letter from high school students in Changsha city who said, \"I was so moved by the play.\" Evidently the heroine acted very well. She was so moved, she cried so bitterly for her. And, but at the end, she said in the letter, she said, \"I wish I could live even one week, the life of \"Camille\".\" \"Then I would die with my eyes closed.\" That means, you know, So this was much more serious, you know, than asking about shoes and hairstyles, because this was deeper. You know, why this young girl who was brought up in a socialist society would want to live the life of Camille. So our presentation was wrong, or because the kind of social meaning we want to extract from the play really isn't there. We just trying to put something on this play but actually, the writer on that play didn't have the same kind of purpose as we have. So the end result is that, you know we affected some young people's thinking and made a representation of the society. We evidently misled her. So, this was another example. And I think, you know, aside from our stage shows, in our daily life, we also could tell that the impact of art and literature is so great. You see, I can tell you a story about my own colleagues. You see in China, adultery is a punishable behavior. And because we want to protect the family life because we think family life is very important. Family unit is a basic unit in society. It should be protected. So adultery is frowned upon and the can be punished. So one of my colleagues, she committed this because, she has three children, but she had affair with another guy and they were discovered and she was being criticized in the group. And the first time usually the first offender is not too serious because we find that may be, she had some kind of, I don't know how to explain it. Maybe just go a stray once, right? So we try to talk to her, you know in a group saying, \"this is wrong, you shouldn't do that because you would disrupt other people's life and all that.\" And then after some time she committed again. She had an affair with another guy and was discovered again. So that time, the second time was more serious, which means you have enlarged group of people talking to her. And I'm saying that because in China, I don't know the Chinese tradition is that, you know you all always, maybe the phrase's not, every Chinese is, you know, you don't like to be openly criticized or you know, face saving. This is very important with the Chinese tradition. So, you know, when you have an enlarged group of people talk to you, of course naturally more people would know, you know, your mistake. So this is more serious. And, but after the second time, it didn't work. She would commit third time again, she committed adultery. So then of course the leadership felt this was quite serious because her husband, you know, this was maybe it's hard for you to understand when the organization discovered that she committed adultery, nobody told her husband about her affair with the other guy. The reasoning was that, you don't want to disrupt the family life, try to reason with her. Make her correct her own behavior. But in the meantime, you don't want to hurt the others particularly she has three children. So, you know, sometimes you feel it's kind of ridiculous because I know a lot of people know but the only one who doesn't know is her husband. That she's having an affair with somebody else. But at the third time, the organization was getting impatient. And the people also around her felt, you know she's very unfair to her husband this way. So, people's began to talk, \"you know if you continue \"this way, maybe your husband would discover \"and this would really disrupt your own family life. \"What about your children and all that?\" So of course, by this time, she also began to have a little cool-headed, you know try to think that this is more serious. And usually in this kind of criticism, meetings, this kind of meetings, we would try to talk to the person to reason with the person. Also try to find out the cause of this kind of behavior, why she does it again, again, again. And try to help her to review her own life. \"Why you feel you have to fall in love with another guy, \"what's what's bothering you \"and know what's behind all this.\" So finally we analyze with her and she talked about her childhood. She talked about her present life. She talked about what she reads, what she, you know what she thinks, oh finally with the whole group, we figured it out. And she agreed that she was deeply influenced by the classic French literature. You see, she was a fan of Balzac, you know, from very early age, she read all the translation. You know, the Chinese translation work was very good. You know, we translated the whole works of Balzac and the Tostanoski and you know all the great writers of the 18th and 19th centuries of French and Russian and English. So she was a fan of Balzac and she read all the translated works at Balzac, and she really felt, she used to imagine and put herself in that kind of position of certain heroines in Balzac novel. And she told us that the one of the novels of Balzac novels, well, where the heroin said, \"A husband is not enough. \"You must have a lover at the same time.\" And evidently, she imagined about this. She had this kind of illusions or whatever, and she put it into practice. So she could again and again fell in love with someone else. Not that she hated her husband. No, she says she doesn't hate her husband. And she doesn't, but she just felt this is more romantic. \"If I have a husband and I have a lover at the same time.\" So, this was the the kind of impact you'll find because when she first committed this kind of mistake, both she and we didn't understand. What caused it until finally we try to talk it out, to try to analyze. And she really went very deep into her own thinking. Then she found out she was influenced by that kind of novel. So the facts, these facts really proved that art and literature do exert a great influence our mental and social consciousness. So if we handle it carelessly, it could give people wrong ideas. And could be poisonous to people's minds. So, because of this kind of experience, we realize like in Chinese society, the workers and peasants, they need the service of intellectuals. They need to unite with the intellectuals providing the intellectuals, providing these intellectuals share the same goal as they have. So to put this idea in a common sense, which means in the Chinese society the workers and peasants, they are the people who are responsible for producing material wealth for Chinese societies to develop. But the cultural workers, the people in superstructure they're responsible for creating spiritual wealth, for the Chinese society to develop. This is a division of labor between production workers, peasants, and the people in superstructure, work in superstructure. So, when you think in such terms then the next question is you see the workers and peasants they're responsible to feed us, to cloth us, to build buildings for us to live in. And the things they produce has to be good and gradually make it more and more perfect and also healthy for us, right? They produce food for us. It can't be poisonous because otherwise will be dead. And if anybody try to put poison in the food we eat then he'll be caught, that's kinda revolutionary, enemy of the people. So, there's no problem with workers and peasants whatever they produce is good for the society. Accumulated material wealth for the society. And it got to be healthy, good. But for the other part, for us cultural workers, what we produce whether this is really good for the development of society, whether it is healthy for the society, this is abstract, how to measure this. Because it's possible for us to produce something harmful for the society spiritually, but we may not be caught right away not like a worker put poison in the food. Then he'll be discovered very quickly. But if we put some things, spend some wrong ideas, some poisonous ideas into people's minds we may not be caught right away. It's very tricky. The kind of things that we produce, how to measure this, whether it's good or bad for the society. So any ideological influence which is detrimental to this effort is impermissible in Chinese society. Maybe you can put in a little bit because it's abstract. 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reactions,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377#t=43.4,47.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377/transcript/29645/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"measure the social effect of your work,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377#t=47.7,51.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377/transcript/29645/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they'll discover that what is good, what is bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377#t=51.03,54.69"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377/transcript/29645/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because the goal is there, what we want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377#t=54.69,57.223"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377/transcript/29645/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So because of the majority of the Chinese people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377#t=60.64,63.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377/transcript/29645/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"want to protect the moral of this new society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377#t=63.29,67.623"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377/transcript/29645/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So this is our 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painting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377#t=106.03,108.533"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377/transcript/29645/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All the things around you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377#t=110.65,112.063"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377/transcript/29645/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this is more and more so 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influence which is detrimental to this effort is impermissible in Chinese society. Maybe you can put in a little bit because it's abstract. You're not caught right away, but sooner or later when they evaluate the work, measure the reactions, measure the social effect of your work, they'll discover that what is good, what is bad. Because the goal is there, what we want. So because of the majority of the Chinese people want to protect the moral of this new society. So this is our responsible. This is the way they measure your work. So some people ask, \"Is this brain washing?\" I think if you want to put it in this way, I agree with this, it is brainwashing. But I want to point out one fact, that is I think everybody's thinking is determined by his social being, by his environment, by the people around him. Everybody picks up ideas from books, movies, place, painting. All the things around you. And this is more and more so recognized by people here, I think. I was very interested in reading several articles in The New York Times and Times Magazine not too long ago, where I think it was the... One was the writer who made a survey about impact of TV programs among the public. And also sometimes I read the reader's letters to the publication. What they found the impact of certain TV programs has on human beings' behavior. Even when the...in the last, not too long ago, when they had the big, big incident in Washington, DC, where... Who's that guy, held up some Muslims in Washington, DC when he held up over hundred people as hostages and later on, I think there was a debate over how to cover this kind of news. There was some rethinking of how to use... properly use the communications you have. So I think... well we... of course from our viewpoint we feel we already experimented it. And we feel that all the people working in the mass media have a certain responsibility and already explained, what's our goal and the how to accomplish this thing. And anything contrary to this would be criticized by the people, not only by your own leadership but the people also have their own opinions. So, this kind of policy, I think the brainwashing... I feel that nobody really can avoid brainwashing in this world because you're influenced by your... We're all together and we influence each other. So everybody's brain is being constantly washed. So the only difference really is what is washed out. What we hope to achieve in China is to wash out the dirty base instincts of human being and to try to replace it with a loftier ideas. I think nobody can say a people less selfish, a people less greedy is worse than the people... This at least is our standard that people less selfish less greedy are certainly better than the people more greedy and more selfish. So what we want to do is to really replace these selfish and greedy ideas with a better one. So for this reason, we do accept the kind of censorship in China from the people, from the leadership, from our peers. So this is how we work. And this is why in China, the audience play a very important role in our theater arts, in all performing arts. The audience is very much aware of their rights and their responsibilities. They'll tell us through letters or meetings what they got out of the play. If there is any ill effects which would harm our common cause they would point it out, criticize us and sometimes come up with a new idea how to correct it. So this is the kind of relationship between audience and us. Yeah. So cultural workers are not special. It is really, division of labor in the society. The workers and peasants they feed us and they have the right to supervise us. So, whenever We want to put up a play, we do get a lot of help from from the peasants workers when we wanted to pick them. Maybe I want to go into a little bit about our working method, three in one combination which means the process of creating a new play, a contemporary play is when we found a worthwhile story we want to project. Then we would send a group of people from our theater including a director, set designer and the writer and a few actors form a group and go to that area to talk to that area, the people, and usually when you go there you get the help immediately from that locality and they would have people to work with you and to show you how this thing took place. And also to tell you, set up models for you and point out models for you to write about. So then after you live there for a while you have the draft of the play and you try to set it up in that locality, right there and get the opinions. Once you have a rough idea, you show them and they'll give you... They will try to enrich it and tell you more. Give you more suggestions. That that is how a new play would be created on contemporary theme in China. And that's what we call a three in one combination that combines the professionals and combines the administrative leadership and masses, which means the people in that area. So this is the relationship between audience. This is the working method. This is the principle of Art and Literature and what kind of role they play in the society. So all I know what I'm trying to convey to you is a different kind of concept in art and literature and how it functions in China. So... and this is exactly what Mao wanted, and this was the tradition set up by Mo since 1920s up to now. If China continues to carry out Mao's line in art and literature, time will tell whether we can achieve our ultimate goal in art and literature, which is again, Mao's ultimate goal quote. He said, \"what we want to achieve is the unity of politics and art, the unity of content and form, the unity of revolutionary political content and the highest possible perfection of artistic form.\" You see Chinese... the new culture in China the history is still very short. It's very young. It didn't have much time to develop. So this goal is still there whether we will follow Mao's line and try to achieve this goal and set up a new kind of culture, which is not quite the same as the highest perfection of art forms in the West or in other societies, but unique different kind of standard in China. So this, we have to wait and see. Now Tse Tung Mao has died and whether this would be followed up and we don't know at this point. So I'll end my talk right here and I await to your questions and criticisms. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45421/file/118377#t=0.0,652.01633"}]}]}]}