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seventies?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2669.31,2672.57"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/799","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He wrote, \"The plains, while less stunning at first sight,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2672.57,2677.3"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/800","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"last longer, feel the aesthetic sense fuller,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2677.3,2681.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/801","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"precede all the rest,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2681.83,2683.8"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/802","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and make North America's characteristic landscape.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2683.8,2687.887"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/803","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We hope we can honor that landscape,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2688.9,2691.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and let it fulfill the promise that Whitman saw in it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2691.15,2694.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"allowing it to provide different kinds of bounty","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2694.77,2698.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the people of the nation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2698.08,2700.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wheat, where it belongs, grass where it belongs,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2700.21,2704.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people where they belong, and even buffalo,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2704.32,2707.51"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where they belong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2707.51,2709.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2709.22,2710.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We'd be happy to take questions or whatever, so thank you,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2710.35,2714.74"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anybody, questions, comments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2714.74,2718.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e I have a question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2718.08,2718.92"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2718.92,2719.77"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm George Dough from the department of history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2719.77,2721.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I teach a course in on the Great Plains,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2721.38,2723.927"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm very interested in what you're having to say,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2723.927,2725.83"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and having read a bit of your work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2725.83,2727.52"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Your critics, perhaps not legion or many,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2727.52,2731.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"particularly on the great Plains.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2731.38,2733.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they say a number of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2733.49,2734.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm wondering how you respond to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2734.96,2737.82"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of which is that you fail to distinguish","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2737.82,2740.59"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between sustainability and exploitation of the land.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2740.59,2744.543"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/825","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They say, to the extent that you don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2745.76,2748.67"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"adequately distinguish as well, between submarginal land use","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2748.67,2752.13"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and marginal land use.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2752.13,2754.38"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And still others would say, that it doesn't make a lot","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2754.38,2757.41"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of sense to substitute buffalo for hereford is ecologically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620#t=2757.41,2761.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115620/transcript/27361/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in fact, 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Dr. Popper, Frank Popper has a degree in government and public administration from Harvard University and Deborah draws her degrees from Rutgers University in geography. They've both been working in the planning department. Urban studies and planning at Rutgers University in New Jersey. And they've come up with some very interesting ideas about the Great Plains States. These ideas of theirs have been quite controversial in some sectors of America. And have been picked up by the mainstream press from papers as far away as Los Angeles and Washington DC and the Boston Globe. The New York Times has done quite a lot with the article on a couple occasions, and a woman who writes for New York Times Magazine has put out a book about their ideas called \"Where the Buffalo Roam,\" and her name's Ann Matthews, if anybody would like to find that. The Poppers are gonna talk about their idea for the Buffalo Commons, and I hope you'll enjoy it. We'll have time for questions after they finish. And Frank popper will start their presentation, then Deborah Popper will do the second half. Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Thank you, Christina. Is this on?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Okay. And, Deborah and I would also like to thank all the organizations that made this really atmospheric occasion possible. Deborah, could you stand up for a minute? In Matthew's book about our work was reviewed in USA TODAY, where the USA TODAY reviewer described the Poppers as, \"As fearsome as Buffalo to many of the residents of the Great Plains.\" Now, I ask you? Today, Deborah and I would like to tell you about the work we've been doing on the agricultural and economic and environmental and land use future of the Great Plains. We'll focus on why that work convinces us, that much of the fate of the Plains lies in a vision that we've called the Buffalo Commons. We'd like to spell out some of the details of that vision, because they've been frequently misunderstood, in part because they've been frequently misunderstood. Just so we start from the same point of view, same reference point. Let me show you the area that we mean by the Great Plains. Right now, you know. Now, the area that we consider the Great Plains, and I should say it's a very standard historians, geographers definition, going back, for example, to the work of the Great Plains historian Walter Prescott Web in 1931. For us, for Web, for lots of other people, the Great Plains begins at the 98th Meridian, a solid line running from North Dakota to Texas. If it helps, the solid line runs about say, where Aurora Nebraska is, or where Hutchinson Kansas is. The West edge of the Plain, and again, it's part of the standard definition, is the wavy dotted line there to the West, which is the Eastern most extension of the Rockies. The region consists of by this definition, parts, and that may become important later when we go again to the question. Parts of Penn States, no one state is actually totally within the Plains. The area as defined here accounts for almost a fifth of the land area of the contiguous United States. It has a distinctive grass pattern. Short grass and mixed grass, has a distinctive soil profile, crop output, geology, elevation, and most obvious to the eyeball, relatively little in the way of trees and rainfall is relatively sparse. As you go from East to West, annual rainfall drops below on an average basis 20 inches of rain a year. We've shown San Antonio on the East edge of the Plains here, Denver on the West edge of the Plains, but the largest city actually in the Plains, is Lubbock, Texas, about 170,000 people. Think of that. I mean, here you have a fifth of the United States, and the largest city in it, is the size approximately slightly less than de Moines. It is on the whole as it's very well-known, a rural and small town place. Total population of the Plains as of the latest census is about 6 million people, maybe a little bit over that. That makes it about the size of a middle state like Georgia or Indiana. As I say, on a fifth of the contiguous United States. It's a very evocative area in American history. This is the area legendarily at least, of the pioneer homesteads of the big sky, the Dust Bowl, one room school houses, straight line interstates, custom combines, prairie dogs and antelope, and yes, buffaloes. It's the locus of novels like \"Giants in the Earth\" and movies like \"Last Picture Show,\" and most recently, of course, very evocatively, \"Dances with Wolves.\" It has an interesting literary history. In fact, the Great Plains does. A lot of the early 19th century, mid 19th century, great American writers spend a surprising amount of time in the Plains. Here I'm thinking, not just George Catlin but also Washington Irving and Walt Whitman, And basically all of them were captivated by the oceans of grass, mysteries, intimations of infinity that the Plains offer. The region's history. And again, this is a very standard interpretation. Shows a basic pattern, federally subsidized settlement and cultivation, produce a boom. That boom then goes too far. It leads to overgrazing and over plowing. These then lead to a bust, which features heavy depopulation, especially heavy, in the deepest rural parts of the Plains. So it's a region that historically shows this boom and bust, highly unstable economic pattern. Two such cycles, had already run full term in the American period already. One in the late 19th century, the other in the early 20th century. The first began with the Homestead Act in 1862. Then immediately after the civil war, running through a lot of the 1870s, there was very heavy settlement in the Plains. The 1870s period happened to coincide quite coincidentally, with a period of relatively high, deceptively high rainfall in the Plains. But beginning in the 1880s, there was a series of very difficult winters, heavy cattle die ups, beginning in the late 1880s and running through the 1890s. There was what we would now call a depression that hit the Plains, hit the country, as a whole. Hit the Plains especially hard. So by about 1895 or so, Nellie Bly, the famous reporter for the New York world, was chronicling writing about fully loaded wagon trains of settlers headed East, out of the plain, in Nebraska and Kansas. No doubt heading many of them, back into Iowa. The defeated settlers, of the first cycle of settlement on the Plains. Second such cycle, as I mentioned began early in the 20th century. There were new homesteading laws, that allowed larger parcels of land to be homesteaded, up to 640 acres by about 1916. And again, there were some good years. Early 1910s were very good. Again, I believe rainfall was very high. And then, the World War I hit. And it made World War I did, the wheat produced by the Plains, an enormous strategic asset for the Allied cause. If you're recalled World War I history, most of the main battles of World War I, in France or Belgium or Russia, or what is now Ukraine, were actually fought in or near former wheat fields. And often by people who in peace time, would be tending, cultivating those wheat fields. Under wartime conditions, they could not. This made the wheat of Montana and Kansas and Nebraska, as I say, a great strategic asset. Slogan at the time, was wheat will win the war. And these were very good years for the Plains. That was the high point of that cycle. The cycle soon turned, there were locusts in the early twenties. A rural depression hit the Great Plains in 1921, followed by the national great depression in 1929. And then finally the ecological catastrophe, of the Dust Bowl, beginning in 1933. These two cycles, the late 19th century one, and the early 20th century one, decisively demonstrate for many observers, not just for Deborah and me, but for many observers. The economic and demographic marginality, or at least the very heavy difficulty, of settlement on much of the Great Plains. And the cycles, the two cycles in the past, and the one going on now, third one, accumulate. They add onto each other. And as a result, there are large numbers of deep rural plains towns and counties, that had their high year population in 1930 or 1920, or even in a surprising number of cases 1890. And have been steadily losing population ever since. There's an old saying on the Plains, there's been two good years of agriculture, 1916 and next year. The overall story of the plains in terms of the cycles, demonstrates very clearly what the great, again, Plains historian, this time from the university of North Dakota, Elwin Robinson calls, \"The Too-Much Mistake.\" He was writing it, if I recall, 1966, looking back on plains history. For Robinson, too much mistake, basically is what I've just been describing to you in terms of these cycles. Too many people, too many railroads, too many farms, too many roads, too much cultivation, too much for the land to take. Land, nature, the economy eventually rebel. Plus the cycles, plus the instability and thus the cumulative aspect of those cycles of instability. They're adding onto each other. Now, Deborah and I, writing in Planning Magazine, in December of 1987, argued that in the 1980s, a new such cycle was clearly clearly evident. Its roots in fact, went back to the 1940s with the onset of large, modern, contemporary federal agriculture subsidies. But that it was ongoing as of the late eighties. And we also argued in 87, that this cycle was likely to go lots farther than the two previous ones. Writing in the late eighties, we had lots of evidence. The agriculture and energy economies of the Great Plains were in near depression. There was continued depopulation, and not just of newcomers, now of people who themselves or their ancestors, had been able to withstand the two previous terms of the cycle. There were heavy rises in soil erosion by the late eighties. And by some measures, these rises in soil erosion in some places actually approached Dust Bowl 1930 style rates. They've been drawdowns in the Ogallala aquifer, which is a giant limestone water bearing formation that essentially underlies the Southern two thirds of the Plains. Even changes in American dietary habits, had shifted against the Plains. By 1987, Americans already consumed only two thirds of the beef per capita, that they were consuming in 1975. For that uneaten beef, they were substituting in their diets, fish mainly, and chicken. The plains didn't produce either of those, so that the shift in dietary habits, was harming the Plains. Also by the late eighties, the federal government no longer built or had decided rather, no longer to build the large dam and irrigation projects, say like the one along the Missouri river, in the Northern half of the Plains, that had done so much in the past to underwrite great Plains economic development. Now, that's what we were saying in late 87. Since 87, a number of new pressures on the Plains have emerged. And the ones I've just described, have largely persistent. Let me describe some of the new ones for you. 88, 89 and 90 saw serious drought especially in the Northern Plains. From 88 onward, there was the savings and loan collapse which in truth actually seems to have begun in plains, rural plains, Oklahoma and Texas, as we all know it's still, it's since spread nationally. But there's no question that the savings and loan collapse came earliest to the Southern Plains, and seems perhaps to have lingered longest there. Since 87, there has also been growing credibility for the greenhouse effect, and while the various models of what the effect will actually do to the Plains, vary a lot in their details. Most of them are not really very happy in their main lines for what will happen to agriculture in the Southern, say half of the Plains. And again, on the sort of front of perversity, even American foreign policy has shifted as it were against the Plains. Those of you who've traveled say, into the Dakotas or Montana or Wyoming, will have noticed a large number of missile silos and air force bases. Most of whose targets essentially were the former Soviet Union. As the former Soviet Union looks less menacing, to the true interests of American national security, and as the federal budget deficit becomes more pressing, many of these bases in the Northern Plains will become more and more, and silos in the Northern Plains, will become more and more expendable. North Dakota supposedly is the world's third greatest nuclear power. As those silos are dismantled or made less prevalent, the actual economic impact they offer to the Northern Plains is going to go away. And there's gonna be a lot of local huff as far as we can see. And still yet, another front the nation has become much more dubious about the farm subsidies that underlie a lot of great Plains agriculture. The 1990 farm bill, actually lowered some of the prices paid for Plains commodities. And the early indications from the Clinton administration are that the new USDA will in the next farm bill, likely lower some of those subsidies even further. Other indications from the new Clinton administration come from the Interior Department, which seems to want to, for example, increase the prices of money, excuse me, of water from federal the irrigation projects. Historically, the Plains and a lot of the rest of the West have gotten these water subsidy, or these water rentals at well below market price, it's a form of subsidy. It is likely to be diminished some, so also is the land rental on BLM Bureau of Land Management land, which again historically, has been below market. BLM has heavy holdings in Plains, Montana, Wyoming, and New Mexico. And these changes in land and water prices on the part of BLM are likely to amount to, assuming they go through of course, a revocation of what has been in the past, a substantial subsidy. Above all, however, since 1987, the most striking thing has been the continued outflow of population, particularly young people from the Plains. The 1990 census, for example, showed continuing population hemorrhages in the Plains, especially in the rural plains. As defined here in Nebraska, has 52 counties in the Plains. 50 of them, showed population losses in 1990 as against 1980. North Dakota has 41 counties in the Plains. 38 of them show population losses in the 1990 census. Oklahoma has 23 plains counties. 22 of them showed population loss. And in fact, across all 10 plains States, in every single one of them, the majority of plains counties, showed population losses. Of course going across the Plains, some counties were hit harder than others. And in particular, the biggest proportion of losses seem to occur in the smallest and often the most remote, and most rural counties. That is, the ones that were already falling behind the most economically. Now, I wanna emphasize, that this ongoing depopulation of the deep rural Plains, is an evolutionary process. It's largely, but not entirely, largely free market driven. That is, stated simply, people are voting with their feet. They are, however reluctantly, and despite their determination and their deep love of the land, with which Deborah and I fully sympathize, they're leaving the deep rural plains. They may not want to necessarily, their families may not want them to, their communities may not want them to, they're feeling they have to do so, anyway. That is, again, in Elwin Robinson too much mistake manner, nature, and the economy, are taking their course. If this process continues, and Deborah and I, think it has so much momentum, and such profound roots, that it most likely will. Then in about a generation, large parts of the rural Plains, will be extensively depopulated. Not totally be populated, but certainly more depopulated than they are today. We've done very rough estimates of the likely extent of these areas, using census and other publicly available figures, and project, very roughly, that about 110 counties, representing about a quarter of the land area of the Plains, could be possibilities for this continued heavy depopulation we're talking about. They have, this quarter of the land area, quarter of the number of counties, only 6% of the total population of the Plains, which again, would give you a sense of how comparatively under-populated they are already. They have a total population of about 400,000 people. These are the kinds of places that we think are possible candidates to become part of the Buffalo Commons, which Deborah will now tell you about.\r\n\r\n- This is truly an interesting setting. We haven't spoken in someplace like this. I'm not sure whether the Frank shouldn't have started singing the Great Plains of blues or something. To pick up where he left off. When we first began talking about and writing about the Buffalo Commons, we were really using a metaphor, as a way of re-envisioning the practices in an area that he clearly experienced difficulties. Over the course of decades really, of loss of income, loss of topsoil, loss of water, loss of people and loss of community. And so we were trying to discuss and describe and think about, where present practices were proving unworkable What could be done? What could be replacement practices? And we expected that the trends that Frank described to you, would continued pretty much along the same lines over the next generation. And only at that point, only after these trends and the effects of them, had become so, over, so clear, would they be confronted head on? And we expected that at that point, only then, as I say, when things had become so clear, would say, government feel obliged to do something. As government generally waits for extreme problems to actually get in and do something. And so we hope that its actions would incorporate an ethic, that treated land and people with respect. We wrote a tearing down the fences, replanting the grasses, restocking the animals, including the bison, and creating the Buffalo Commons. But, remember the term was thought of by us as a metaphor. And as a metaphor, it was supposed to really be evocative. We discovered it was provocative for many rather than evocative, but that was our intent. Now the first term, Buffalo, was supposed to evoke the regions past, one that might suggest lessons to us. And so, what were these lessons really? Largely ones of the wisdom of less intensive use of the land. The importance of ecological diversity, and I think the need to look at what distinguished the region. What would particularities of it, that one you keep in mind and should value and try to to emphasize perhaps. So were there practices in this past, that could be brought forward into the future. Not to recreate it, since after all that's really not possible, but to really learn from it. Were there things that were done better in the past that might suggest ways of approaching the present? Now, the second term Commons, really would refer to the need to value the land as a resource that we all have an interest in, much like air and water. And so private property rights, should not supersede the common good on these lands. But instead they really need to be held in balance. Public interest, general, community interest as well as the individual's interests. So what kinds of practices would be suggested by such a metaphor? It really didn't mean to us, buffalo on every acre. In fact, you couldn't have buffalo on every acre since that wouldn't be sustainable over the longterm. And what we have found since we started writing this is, I guess in 1987. Is that there, we've seen many practices springing up around the area, much faster than we anticipated. And whereas we had expected that only the government would be the really most critical player, we found strong private and private public kinds of actions occurring. And most of them really originate from within the region. So let me give you some examples of the kinds of things we've seen emerging, kinds of changes that have been taking place. Cattle and wheat, the regions prime, agricultural products, ecologically mimics the natural Great Plains. But in many places they don't renew it really, economically or ecologically. So restocked Buffalo, not domesticated, because they really are not tame animals, but managed really, offer one example of buffalo bringing past and future together. Private bison ranching in fact is on the upswing in the plains. Really, we found lots and lots of people suddenly getting into this. Lots of ranchers around the area. And in preference to cattle, those who have made this change have told us, that it's economically viable. And in fact, it's a lot easier to do, requiring less labor on their part. They find buffalo graze more widely than cattle, certainly both, because they don't favor a wider range of grasses and also are more willing to leave the riparian areas. They survive adverse weather conditions more easily. They bring good prices, and both for the meat, which at least up through now has been basically organic. And lowering cholesterol than beef. And, so therefore fits into this growing demand that Frank was talking about, in it's away from sort of high cholesterol beef. And then also horns, skins and so on, bring good prices as well. So you've got a good range of things that you can get money from. So those who we have talked with and found that they anticipated problems of fencing and brucellosis which we're certainly the big things that raised is, why you really can't go into this, have been in fact something that they could manage. They can deal with, they can inoculate. If you manage your buffalo, they won't jumped your fences although they probably can, if they really want to no matter how high that you build them, and how strong. In North Dakota, in fact, last February about a hundred ranchers or so, got together and formed the North Dakota Buffalo producers Association, with the intent of establishing their own slaughter house, doing joint marketing and so on. And in fact, they have just selected a site for that slaughter house in new Rockford, North Dakota. And several towns, put together serious bids and wanting that particular business. So they were pleased about that. There have been associations springing up of buffalo producers in Kansas and Wyoming as well. So you can see this as basically a growth sector. And at this stage in the development of the buffalo industry, producers can still take control and hopefully keep control, avoiding this large scale corporate organization that has really overtaken much of the meat industry. So, raising bison in this way seems to be a way to diversify the region's economy. And it's a part of the region's niche agricultural market. And it works on some of the more arid land, in the region. So that's one kind of thing we've seen springing up, that's I think is a pretty positive sign. Native Americans are actively pursuing initiatives to restore the place of buffalo in their culture for both economic and spiritual purposes. And there's a native American fishing wildlife society which is, in conjunction with about more than 20, between 20 and 30 tribes, worked on a project which would include increasing or creating bison herds on many of these reservations. Also talked about doing their own slaughtering, and doing their own management, dealing with increasing and improving management, and developing marketing skills as well. So they formed an inter-tribal bison cooperative for all of this. In addition, several individual tribes, the Lakota for example, have put forward similar proposals. And they really do stress the need to incorporate the bison on into tribal life, as well as the economics. In fact, I think, we had read somewhere that there has been some resistance to joining the North Dakota slaughter, in fact, because it might not incorporate the ability to you do, slaughtering as a spiritual ritual. So they would like to keep that independent. So it's very clearly got numerous different threads that it resonates with there. And additionally, individual tribes are encouraging their own members to get into private buffalo ranching for themselves, on their own private land as well. Another kind of Buffalo Commons land as we see emerging, is that sometimes farmers and ranchers have found their land really more valuable as habitat for game than as farm land. And they've made their living from fees paid by individuals who, or groups who've come out to hunt. In some cases, they farm, and they rent out the land in this manner. In other cases, basically this becomes their primary focus. But you can see this as a sort of private Buffalo Commons emerging. Another example. The nature Conservancy, the nation's leading land preservation organization, had little attention really to the Plains until about five years ago or so. And since then, they have begun to buy up, to preserve or restored different sections in the Plains and even, looking at various ecosystems that they consider to be particularly sensitive, and made contacts with an awful lot of landowners. One of their most ambitious projects is in Texas where they're working with a number of other groups, local governments isn't included. And thinking about the relationships between different areas within about an 18,000 square mile region, pretty large region. So, it's around the Austin and the Hill country and then West from there. And so within that area, they've been setting up some wilderness preserves, then designating sort of buffer zones. And basically doing this with an eye to what is particularly, ecologically important and perhaps preservable land at this point, the population within the area would be interested in maintaining and having access to and so on. So preservation is not just for the land sake there, but also for the local populations. And there are numbers of other groups, whether private like the Nature Conservancy or public that are considering things like this as well. Certainly Bruce Babbitt, secretary of the Interior has been talking about the new environmental policies and describing them very much as, he feels moving in the direction under the new Clinton administration, to pay closer attention to ecosystem decisions rather than specific species, preserving one endangered species without thinking of the larger context. And thinking about doing this within, sort of mixing public and private groups together to come up with plans to do this. So I think that this particular way of dealing with things is certainly more in line with what this present administration is talking with now. Now, another example, I think is the, or possibly the largest scale existing example of Buffalo commons land use is actually Canadian. The Prairie provinces have long experienced the same kinds of pressures that the lower 48 has had felt. And so they basically, Canada have established a public Buffalo Commons. They've opened in Southwest Saskatchewan along Frenchman river, Grasslands National Park. And it borders Montana. It's basically, I think a two parts is about 350 square miles. And they've talked, what they largely concentrated on is basically restoring native grasses to the area. And they talked about putting in bisons, and they have, and that's as far as I know. Now, farmers and ranchers in the area, initially were very skeptical and not terribly happy with the plan when they first heard it. But subsequently, as they reexamined their own situation, have decided that in fact, what they're unhappy with now is the slow pace of the bias. The prices that they were have been paid have been fair, and nobody has been forced at. So in fact, they wanting to, there have been ranchers in the area who felt, wait a minute, why doesn't this go forward faster? This is really what we need in this area. So that's another example, but it's Canadian. Now, I think these several examples can be viewed as building blocks, really, of a Buffalo Commons. Along with a variety of other previously established ones, like the national grasslands which appear only in the Great Plains, created during Dust Bowl days out of land that was basically left, or Bureau of land management acreage, which is largely land that never went out of public hands. And I think that these examples all really reflect a change, or expansion if you will, in the way land is valued. From the deeply ingrained notion that land is valuable when it is plowed, or sold or developed. That intensity of use is desirable. To an attitude that sees some land as really better treated more gingerly. So what might the Great Plains look like, a generation from now, when Frank and I expected something like the Buffalo Commons to start to materialize? Now, what I think, and obviously I don't know what it's gonna look like, but what I would expect is that, much of the region will appear to continue in present patterns overall. That we expect to see some broad shifts, a sort of gradual reordering of population centers, and the relationships between them. We expect to see, both an increase in frontier and an increase in urbanization in the region. The urban areas, are really likely to grow, picking up out migrants from both, the more rural sections of the Plains, as well as from urban areas to the East and West, people really seeking a more manageable urban environment. So places like billings Montana, or Lubbock Texas, or Cheyenne Wyoming, the largest cities in the Plains really with their populations of 50, 80, 100,000 are likely to be bigger than they are now. And I think so some of the smaller urban areas, like say Aberdeen, South Dakota or Alliance, Nebraska or Elk city, Oklahoma, with there more typically 10 to 20,000. These two will pick up, I think. Especially the more, that sort of the first place that the deep rural people go in there when they move out of the deep rural plains. Now the vast bulk of Plains farming, and ranching, and mining areas that are economically stable, I think, will remain. The region after all produces most of our wheat and we expect it to continue to do so. But I think these activities may cover less land area than they do now. They may occur really in the areas, where they are most workable, most resistant to boom and bust. Places that are more reliable sources of water, for example, where they have raised difficulties, I think, where the free market has indicated their unsuitability, they'll will retract And frontier like conditions, I think will increase there. And so the question is, what will arise in their place? That's where we expect, the kinds of private and public Buffalo Commons land uses, I've talked about to emerge. There could be other uses which emerge there, but that's really where we see them as likely. And in some ways, we see these as positive ones, very definitely we see them as positive ones. So we would like to see, in these areas which are not viable economically, replacement uses that incorporate high environmental values, and highest aesthetic values, and high human values. We foresaw the Buffalo Commons as a unitary, large-scale antidote when we first started writing. And it may be, or it may instead be a variety of improvisation, smaller improvisations. But the region's economy we expect, will be healthier if it features a larger role, an important role for preservation, for tourism, especially ecotourism, for recreation, with more land devoted to wildlife refuges, and parks and with larger populations of native species. But whatever our vision, the reality, I think will be created on the Plains, by the people of the Plains. Yeah, I think such areas can in fact have economic value and offer opportunities for people. As I said, we expect an increase in ecotourism and other forms of recreation with jobs that they bring. But to do things things right, really requires more than an increase and low paying service jobs. It requires people who know how to foster a vital ecosystem, who can do the complex research to figure out what the land used to look like. Who can make informed guesses about what happens when certain species are introduced or omitted, and can react intelligently when their guesses prove wrong. Okay, now, as will inevitably happen, I'm sure, it will need people to increase for example, the seed stock of native grasses which if one does real restoration, certainly much too small at the moment. And it will also need people to explain the same ecosystems to lay people in ways that really communicate their value, and make them enticing and exciting and worthwhile. To make the visitors to The Plains see it and understand it and value it. So, I think I wonder how we will treat the environment, what values we will bring to creating the places in which we live? In 1936 at the height of the Dust Bowl, the federal government published a report called, \"Future of the Great Plains.\" And this report concluded that the Plains difficulties ultimately sprang from what they call controlling attitudes of mind, that Americans historically had towards land. Nature was to be conquered. Habitual practices, our best. Natural resources are inexhaustible. Markets would expand indefinitely. Land values would keep rising. And these attitudes, gave rise to practices that really could not be sustained. Now, these attitudes certainly still persist. Anybody who wants to sell a house knows that they still hope that home values keep rising after all. But we think they are increasingly being superseded. There seems to be a growing willingness, indeed, desire to recognize limits. The limits don't dictate specific land uses, but practices need to take them into account and work with them. And so, we see increasing experimentation within these limits. And increasing experimentation, and incorporating wilderness into our land use fabric. So, how will we view the landscape of the great Plains, a generation from now? What will we actually see when we look at it? Will we only notice the urban oasis, or will it be a bread basket entirely tanked? Well, much of it have been turned into a wasteland. As people leave the deep rural areas, will new uses emerge for those places and the waste dumps find their ways to the formerly overgrazed land? Will it be replete with crops, and grass that we see without understanding, finding a really an endless boring scrubby, this stuff flat, nothing there. Or will we be thrilled by it instead? Will it evoke the response Walt Whitman had to it when he crossed the country in the eighteen seventies? He wrote, \"The plains, while less stunning at first sight, last longer, feel the aesthetic sense fuller, precede all the rest, and make North America's characteristic landscape.\" We hope we can honor that landscape, and let it fulfill the promise that Whitman saw in it, allowing it to provide different kinds of bounty to the people of the nation. Wheat, where it belongs, grass where it belongs, people where they belong, and even buffalo, where they belong. Thank you. We'd be happy to take questions or whatever, so thank you, Anybody, questions, comments.\r\n\r\n- I have a question.\r\n\r\n- Good.\r\n\r\n- I'm George Dough from the department of history. I teach a course in on the Great Plains, I'm very interested in what you're having to say, and having read a bit of your work. Your critics, perhaps not legion or many, particularly on the great Plains. And they say a number of things. I'm wondering how you respond to them. One of which is that you fail to distinguish between sustainability and exploitation of the land. They say, to the extent that you don't adequately distinguish as well, between submarginal land use and marginal land use. And still others would say, that it doesn't make a lot of sense to substitute buffalo for hereford is ecologically. 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There are lots of these other places around the continent. I'm thinking here of the rural Pacific Northwest to the Great Basin, or the Colorado Plateau in the Western part of the country. The same thing, in fact, it's largely true. If you look at, say, Central Appalachia, place like Eastern Kentucky. The same thing is largely true. if you look at the lower Mississippi Delta. The same thing is true in most Northern parts of the Midwest. All of these places are places where traditional agriculture traditional extractive industries don't really seem to have much of a future. Young people are leaving, population's getting older, a lot of government policies. Some of some longstanding seem to drive this deep population even further. Some kind of alternative, we think preservation-oriented is going to have to be developed for many of these places are sensitive. As I said, the process has gone farthest in the Great Plains and that other parts of the country are eventually, we think, going to have to develop some kind of locally adapted version of the Buffalo Commons on their own for their own rural cells. Your first point, interested me, it was something about--\r\n\r\n- I was saying that some of you critic say that you don't distinguish between exploitation and sustainable agriculture and your plans were readjusted...\r\n\r\n- Okay. I'd argue that different.\r\n\r\n- Did you want to get in a lock of--\r\n\r\n- What, you were about to say something, so I'll say something after you.\r\n\r\n- Well, you probably had something better, so.\r\n\r\n- No, I don't, never did.\r\n\r\n- Okay, my own sense is less based on a misunderstanding of our work, this distinction between exploitation and sustainable development. Our sense is very strongly, well... In more frequent and more, shall we say, in your face criticism of our work is we wanna move people off the land who are doing fine as it is economically. And I would argue to you that if you look at our work, and listen to what we said, we've never said anything like that.\r\n\r\n- Oh, I understand that, but people in Nebraska understand it.\r\n\r\n- Okay. But what I think I heard you say, is a tread of polite academic euphemistic way of saying the same thing. Our actual work, if you listen to it closely allows people--\r\n\r\n- Allows people, as if we have any control over the situation.\r\n\r\n- It says people, economic enterprises as far as ranches, mining, whatever that is doing fine in place should have no earthly reason to move and we, and anybody associated with us should have no designs. However, there are so many places, as we say, we estimate about a quarter of the counties and the plains fall in this category where traditional ranching, traditional farming, traditional mineral exploitation is so clearly failing and in truth historically, has been failing in many of these places for more than a century. It's so obvious that some new preservation oriented use should come into its place. One odd thing that happens here, at least, shall we say, less polite exchanges. It's nice to be here in this academic setting, looking around the bar, and the lights are only blinding me about 50%. I don't think you can realize that by the way you stand. I know I have much more appreciation for say, Rockne's performance. In fact, they're doing their stuff app one. One of the things we are frequently accused of is foisting some kind of social engineering and social experiment approach on a place that doesn't want it, okay? That I think is a complete misunderstanding. One of what we as academic researchers have within our technical like power. So we can't force anything on anybody. The fact is, however, that for the most part, the traditional mining agriculture ranching that is failing these quarter of counties, that's the actual social experiment supported by government going back, at least, talk about Homesteading Act. Supported by the contemporary subsidies, supported by past Bureau of Land Management and Bureau of Reclamation Policy. And this is a century-long social experiment that in these places, not all the Plains, but in these places, is not showing such great results. And we're simply suggesting that there may be a more free market alternative to that, that reverses the political polarity. We're not the federally-oriented social engineers. They are the recipients of federal largesse for 130 years. And it's not working, we're saying, look at economic reality, look at environmental reality. These are failing towns, failing counties dropping water tables, mounting soil erosion, young people leave, counties are getting older and older, they're depending very heavily, often on agricultural or other subsidies that don't seem to have that much of a future. We're simply saying, look at the alternative to the century or more of ragged performance.\r\n\r\n- I think actually, let me just respond slightly differently. But, It's sort of the same... Two things, one is that, what we're talking about, is another form of sustainable development. And so, we're not saying that everybody has to do this. We're saying, can we, in fact, increase the pool of things we do that qualify as sustainable development. So I think that's really the most wrecked response I have to that. The other thing that I think is, I don't know the we're confusing exploitation. I think there are cases on the Plains of clear exploitation if, in fact, you're mining the Ogallala Aquifer for your agriculture, that is, you are taking out a whole lot more water than it's going to come back into it. You are exploiting. There's no question about it. You can't say you're not , that that's sustainable. You'd have to come up with an alternative practice that didn't use up the water to say that it was sustainable. So, there are cases of true exploitation on the Plains. But, I think we have, you know, when Frank says we hate on them, you know, we've mapped these things. We have not actually though, in any sense, gone through and targeted and said you know. Your farm is doing this, and you're good and you're bad and so on. We don't have a plan that's that specific in that sense that we are in confusing sub-module marginal and so on. And those terms, I think, to get to your other questions I think they're related, because we're not designating anybody in anybody's lands on that specific basis. We're talking in general about different kinds of practices. And, I think people in the area are gonna have to figure out where they fit in these things. It's not us who can do that, but we're really talking about, how can we rethink what's going on? We know, everybody knows, that there are difficulties in the region. And it's, you know, there are difficulties in the region we live in too, and we all need to rethink what it is that we're doing, wherever we live, to come up with better practices. So, I think that's, you know, that's kind of how I would respond. Did we leave out one point?\r\n\r\n- One last quick point. The shift we are talking about from if you were extractive users to preservation users is happening anyway in the free market. It's happening in terms of, for example, population flux. It's happening in the rise of white Buffalo Rangers throughout the Great Plains, having a history of running cattle, decided cattle that worked for them, discovering that buffalo does work for them. All of these kinds of changes, The Nature Conservancy bias, the Indian things that we're talking about. All would be happening regardless of whether Deborah and I had ever appeared on the scene at all. All we've really done is sort of observed it from the outside and chronicled it, and coined the name to describe the overall process. The process would be happening in any case, even if we had never appeared on this. It's a deeper process that has anything to do with Deborah and me and our work.\r\n\r\n- Yes ask.\r\n\r\n- Why is the buffalo more sustainable than a cow?\r\n\r\n- Okay, I guess in general I think that we're using, yeah, we're using the term buffalo. And as I tried to say, I think that they, you know, they have an historic place in the region. But they do graze more widely. So you're less likely to overgraze, but you can't overgraze. You put too many buffalo on too small a portion of land, and you can overgraze just the way you can with cattle. But they will graze more wildly. They will move out further away from the rivers. And so I think those are two of the reasons, but you probably in much of the region, you do need something that goes around and tramples the ground and if you don't have buffalo, you may want cattle. But I think that's kind of why we think, it's a useful substitution.\r\n\r\n- Also, just the practical terms. They drink less water, they eat less grass, they more easily move, they're easier to curb, with a little foresight. The ranchers we've talked to have told us in truth it's an easier and shorter day to run buffalo than to run cattle. And in the end, you get better proceeds. We've also started noticing some of the extension services of the area starting to move in this direction. We gather in the face of some considerable political resistance. Let's, for example, North Dakota State University's extension for the first time, two months ago in January, was it? Put out a pamphlet and a fan familiar with on how to raise buffaloes. In a very detailed and sort of in terms of sort of equipment requirements, feed requirements of standard balance sheet, and where to get further information. But it only did so, after it discovered that perhaps, you know, 200 former cattle ranchers in the state were already in the buffalo and we're doing well, and wanted more information and more people see likely to be going into the business. The market is actually moving in this direction of its own volition. And while it may, in the end turn out to be a niche market, it seems to be a very large niche who's exact dimensions nobody knows yet. Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I'm gonna come from the other direction talking about the free market. It sounds like you're talking about buffalo free market rather than Buffalo Commons. And what is, you know, we already have the introduction of a new crop, or a new product on the market. In the expansion oriented economy, you have the phenomenon of high prices in the beginning and the first people in to make money. What's to prevent that from going away of most successful products go into the too much stage that you're criticizing the lead and the cattle front.\r\n\r\n- Okay, a couple of things here. And this is development. It's development that's therefore described on a couple of different fronts. In some cases, you have, yes. Private buffalo ranchers who may begin it just for the sort of standard economic moments. Okay, and who are delighted to find that buffalo, at least for now work permit. There are, however, other fronts that are described on this other sources of buffalo cultivation, other sources of buffalo production, and in some cases, other forms simply of having a buffalo, and running them free. Might not at all in a private farm and the basis for that, the Indian things never talked about, the nature conservancies going on in the 21st century. Again, it would be larger than experiments in places like Texas on Nebraska or North Dakota. You can have, as we see, the Buffalo Commons set of land use has been merging both private buffalo ranching before economic resonance and free ranging Buffalo elsewhere, much larger holdings that are there, that are being run much more for preservation, ecological preservation. So there are a whole bunch of problems of the Buffalo Commons coming together here and given the early stage they're in, it's hard to know how each of the different streams will develop, how each of the different streams will relate to each other. With those few on this report I leave you with a whole bunch of emerging Buffalo Commons laying all over. You seem to be working better than any of the individual proponents would've predicted even two or three years. This is why Deborah is describing our work in 1987 I think almost by now historical inquiry and interest 'cause since 1990 and all these other folks. You were right with the second point that you made that Buffalo ranching in itself if conducted the wrong way could go down any of the paths of the cattle industry, that have proven so objectionable. It could happen, your life, one of the things we were encouraged by the fact that, for example, the folks that go in to buffalo from cattle seem quite aware of department or what happened all of a sudden have all the middle people operative. They want to avoid that cattle. That's why they wanna go, for example, in North Dakota in Kansas to a cooperative marketing arrangement quick. Rather than falling into some kind of middle person trap early, which seems to be their understanding of what's happened to cattle in their state. So they know the histories there's some certainly better possibilities. The tracks that they're talking about, our possibility could work that way, or it could turn out, you know, the actual economic niche as a mark for buffalo is smaller than anybody anticipated it. But right now, there don't seem to be those limits there. And the folks in the buffalo, one to avoid the traps of the cattle industry that they basically, as far as I can see, seem to be real happy to escape. These all former cattle people are not allowed to go back.\r\n\r\n- Right, meaning some sense there, this is again sort of moving into the future, you know, what will happen? And we don't really know, but one of the things that we talked about with people, and that they have indicated to us is that they know that the success of buffalo industry depends on keeping the buffalo raised in a particular fashion that doesn't dislocate the way the cattle was taken care of. So, they don't want to shoot them up with all sorts of pointers... because that will probably result in the market novels. In which case, why, in fact, go into something, and can develop it, where turns out you might as well stay with what you were doing before? So the people, at least at the moment, or probably the leaders in the field and they're fairly influential. Or we understand going to be pretty careful about what goes on and use their influence as well as they can to maintain the industry in a way that keeps it successful, I suppose, as far as they're concerned. There is some internal pressure at this point for it to keep working, you know, in a somewhat more benevolent venture.\r\n\r\n- Moving from rural areas to urban area I think this is just a small micro-turbulent form of\r\n\r\n- I think that what we're talking about is a part of a large phenomenon of this kind of movement. And, I think it does generate a certain amount of pain while it takes place. You know, certainly people in the region, look at some of their towns and say, and, you know, they feel like their ancestors were there, they came out and they would like to stay there and don't feel that they can. And that is a painful process parents want their kids to come back and the kids don't come back, whatever. So I think there, you know, it's not the hardest thing in the world, perhaps not. But it is a process which in fact in its sort of natural working sort of I think does generate a certain amount of pain. I think, we are saying that we're sort of tracking in some ways the process from the end what's happening. And then, are there ways that you can ameliorate it in some ways? Are there kinds of practices that can go out into these areas, that will make them more viable than they are? Which may, in fact, retain people in the area, to do somewhat different things.\r\n\r\n- Actually something I am picking up through your question, is this comparative perspective absolutely right that what's happening on the Great Plains is not the people could pass for free. The website Mexico city, or San Paolo or Karate. There's a much smaller number of people involved. They're for better or for worse, less visible on the nation's screen of attention. And as far as we can tell, the people who are leaving the Plains tend or the deeper or more difficult part tend to be going, either, to more stable raw areas within the Plains, or to the large cities of the Plains, or larger cities right on the edge of the Plains like Minneapolis and so forth. It's not the wrenching human slum creating thing one sees and hears about for example Mexico city but if a population movement of some size occurring in an area of some considerable historic and cultural and mythic resonance. But you're right. It's not the problems that he's saying. It's not that level changes. At to some level, I'm certainly feeling better about our work, because of your question. Yes.\r\n\r\n- I think it is significant, you know, what we're doing, 'cause I can have a personal response to that which is, you know, I don't know but I think that there should be a preserve for rich people. So, that's my own political judgment. And so I would like to see some other. There're other people who wanna stay there also get that opportunity. But that's my own political judgment certainly.\r\n\r\n- What you're talking about, you're absolutely right. It's happening in some places of employment in terms of rich people, especially outside it make sense. The fact is though that, Ted Turners of the world are not really attractive, let us say, to Western Kansas or to Western Oklahoma. It's just not that track. Ted Turner's ranch, in fact, is not quite in the Plains, it's actually in the mountains and Galton Gateway if I recall, a little bit outside the area we're talking about. However, your idea of a local stubborn, sometimes wealthy, sometimes we think not so wealthy, elite is much more accurate than my senses which keeps most people Frequently, we're talking about people who are not making that much money at all, but the just like a lifestyle. And that's what keeps them there and we get into depth when I get into arguments with them. They say that instead they're gonna want cattle, we've got no problem with them as long as they're doing it to their own satisfaction. Our sense is, however, that in some places, and then here certainly Kansas local homeowner might be better examples. The parts of the Plains that have used the Northern mountains. With this local elite is finding it harder and harder to get by. And these economic pressures we're talking about and the environmental pressures and perhaps in coming years the government subsidy pleasures that is really going to squeeze this elite which is much less strong. Certainly national politics and there was a time when state farming actually was being used in national politics or even the State politics. The actual influence of such people, is shrinking even within their own States. Colorado and Texas would be particularly good examples especially urban plain States. But our sense is, this is a kind of why is a local elite. It's a local elite which in many places, it's losing a certain amount of its power and withdrawing as it were from larger State and national politics. And the influence of this elite is not strong enough to prevent the deeper structure forces we're talking about from creating something like in many places. Even as this elite resistance, and even has in some places this weakly joined partners. Does that help?\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- Okay even in Montana, for example, the latest congressional election which had this fascinating thing\r\n\r\n- Right.\r\n\r\n- About the liberal Democrat from Western, more environmental, more urban, more timber oriented Montana running against the conservative republican Plains. And then the, you know, the western liberal environmental democrat wins out over the wide from Eastern Montana for the one seat that is left in the state. You know, the two of them have to run against each other only one can triumph. And you know, the vote in Montana politics goes in, I wouldn't say a Buffalo Commons direction, but let's call it environmental directions in a way that would have been inconceivable.\r\n\r\n- Which is bearable.\r\n\r\n- Yeah.\r\n\r\n- I think that the cost cut down and so there indeed has been an increase in conservation through most of the Plains States, in fact, in conservation of water, yeah. That there's less, say, if you went back 10 years ago, something like that. If you looked at how much, what the practices were about a decade ago, they would have been more wasteful than the present practices. So there is an attempt not to use things up. Not to use the water up as fast. What did you wanna say?\r\n\r\n- Yeah That's a complicated way of saying the effect of... His argument basically incorporates issues of...\r\n\r\n- He looked at some specific ranchers actually, I guess he does a couple of case studies. And If I recall up behind. And what he has found is that those particular people have a very comfortable life at this point, based on very heavy waters. And they know it will come to an end, because the only way they can do what they're doing, is really, it's a depleting way. And they know it will come to an end. They're gonna keep it up until it comes to an end and their next generation won't be able to do it. It's sort of, a sort of fabulous way of looking at it. So it's clearly that attitude exists out there as well as other towns in other places, where people think, perhaps, if we're a little more careful we can extend this and it won't be so bad. I mean, I think I should kind of...\r\n\r\n- One thing that I also remember making relevant savings Texas actually got a lot heavy use of Conservation needs My congratulations to, I am just remembering what he have to say but of course that's of value. Is that in Texas The problems in Texas that are coming up,\r\n\r\n- Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/42964/file/115621#t=0.0,1870.728"}]}]}]}