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Tracy Kidder, who most of you know as, as the author of a book, which won the Pulitzer prize and the American Book Award in 1982. A book called, \"The Soul of a New Machine.\" Which details the, the creation of a computer. Mr. Kidder tells me that this is probably the last time he will give a lecture based on the material in this book at least in part. And I think he wants to talk a little bit about other things he's now working on and has taken an interest in. Tracy Kidder was at the Writer's Workshop in Iowa city from 71 to 73. He pleasantly enough to me re, no sound yet but he remembers Iowa very fondly. You can tell somebody who's, who's really sold on Iowa. When you drive him back from the airport to Ames, from Des Moines to Ames. And he says, isn't the countryside beautiful? Because- Only a true Iowan can appreciate the landscape in that way. And in addition to his prizes, Mr. Kidder is a contributing editor to the Atlantic Monthly. And he asked me to say for the engineers in the audience that he also received the Ralph Roe Coats Memorial Award from the American Society of Mechanical Engineers. That I hope that's meaningful to somebody. I asked him what it was and he said it was important. So there it is. We're very pleased to have Tracy Kidder with us tonight. It's my pleasure to introduce him to you. So without any further introduction, Tracy Kidder\r\n\r\n- What I wanna know is why is it that these great seats of American learning where we have all the technologists and scientists in the world, nothing ever works. If I, if I start mumbling and you can't hear me, yell out, yell or something, in the back Back in 1978, when I dallied in the world of computers I heard a great deal of talk about the coming of the personal or even cozier term, the home computer. It seemed to me then that the machine that the industry's ability to make such machines and to give them names came first. No one really seemed to know what to what people would do with a personal or home computer. And for a while marketeers went to pretty extreme lengths to think up some jobs for these machines to perform. My favorite was menus. These machines \"jumpin' Jehoshaphat!\" \"Mr. Science has Bob \u0026 Ray,\" used to say would actually relieve housewives of the very difficult and dangerous responsibility of planning for their family's nutrition. This is a kluge. There we go. But clearly the computer industry was just stalling until they hit on the right formula for selling their machines. And now they found it. Anyone who watches TV has seen the ad, a young man leaving home for college, ecstatic parents seeing him off cut to the youth, returning to very despondent parents he's flunked out of college. If there were no voice in the ad to tell you why you might think it was because the kid is chubby. Or because he left home on a railroad train. A bit of a bit of belly and a passenger train don't symbolize success in our age. In fact, of course the kids corpulence in his choice in transportation or just symptoms of a deeper lack of good judgment on his, and especially as parents part the kid flunked out of college, the voiceover tells you because his parents didn't equip their home with a computer. This is a powerful fable playing as it does on the love of parents with their children. Evidently this ad and others like it work. The home computers have become high, hot items, I'm told they're selling like jelly beans. And I feel sure that that's at least partly because many parents and especially ones who know little or nothing about computers, believe that in these machines lie the secrets to success for their children. Success in school, first of all. I don't quarrel what the proposition that an educated person ought to know how to use machines that are fast becoming as ubiquitous and maybe as important in America as automobiles. It would even probably be, probably be a good thing, if schoolchildren actually understood something about how computers work. It's clear that in special situations especially for severely retarded children sometimes the computers can be very handy, but the ad I mentioned clearly implies more than that. It implies that the computer has somehow become the very source of a good education, the prerequisite for one. And what about this term computer literacy? Which you hear all the time, these days. That terms suggests a lot. It attaches a positive, moral value to familiarity with the ways of computers. It suggests that being able to handle a computer is as important as maybe even a satisfactory replacement for the ability to read with the discernment and to express oneself with clarity and style. But the equation of computers and education and particularly of computers and literacy seems to be so fundamentally shallow, false deceptive. And if it should gain widespread acceptance potentially cruel that I hardly know how to begin unraveling it, so I won't. But the term, this is my polemic, by the way I'll get to some more stuff, some good stuff later. The term literacy means to me a jointness with human language. Obviously it's not the ability to write enduring works of literature, if it were then only a handful of people in any age could claim to be literate. But the ability to read enduring works of literature and some not so enduring ones and to do so with real understanding with the light, that's part of what literacy means. It's not a simple matter understanding human language, it means understanding ambiguity and irony. It partakes of what John Keats called, \"Negative capability.\" That ability as he wrote to rest amid doubts and uncertainties without irritable groupings, after fact and reason. Of all the possibilities inherent in human language, metaphor seems to me, the most amazing and powerful. The essence of metaphor lies in multiple meanings. Metaphor is the power of suggestion. Through, through metaphor words can be made to resonate the way a single string of a guitar, if you pluck it, makes other strings sing. Metaphor proceeds from the possibility of two things being right or true at the same time, which if you think about it is one of the more interesting facts of life. Metaphor is not a ha, a power that happens to reside in computers but it is a power available to people who use computers, obviously. And one I might add that scientists such as Lewis Thomas, was possessing their own writing. What I'm complaining about here is not the not computers are all of the ways in which people use them or the people who build them, I'm complaining about advertising and the powerful and inane messages being spread about computers in order to sell them far and wide to people who don't really have any use for these machines. I feel especially cantankerous and about to be bored by the language that's being used. Punch, punch up the already wildly inflated mystique, of the computer. I wrote up, this book a few years ago about a team of computer engineers. I was very interested in the machine that they were building, but to me it became the setting. The intellectual landscape of the story I wanted to tell. I was trying to write about people mainly. People who were doing something more difficult and interesting and challenging, I think than playing games of solitaire with user-friendly machines. User-friendly. If it weren't probably unconstitutional to do it, I'd ask for a moment of silence to kind of play with that term, user-friendly. What does it mean? That a given computer is easy to use? What does it imply? The machine has human qualities, very important ones indeed. Of course the computer is no more capable of being friendly to a user than a Parisian shopkeeper is capable of being friendly to a tourist. It's just advertising, of course. But I don't the term user-friendly because at the basis the meaning of the word friendly when you sort it all out. User-friendly suggests that the quality of friendliness lies in sheer utility. What I was hanging around with computer engineers I found some of their shop talk charming. It seemed to me that they use the specialized language of their trade in inventive ways. Look at how many terms human beings have taken from the trade of house building and applied elsewhere. Terms such as square or level or going against the grain. It seemed to me that these engineers stood, they stood near the very beginning of some analogous process. And I was charmed because in their application of machine oriented terms to situations of everyday life and also to the old eternal questions about God and man I thought I saw a surfacing of the human tendency to invent and play with language. Their talk seemed fresh in the world that could be stifling, like most worlds. But computer talk has gone around the bend now. It's become unexamined language. Interface, a term usually used incorrectly. I'll do that myself in a minute. Has become, I think the equivalent of such ready expressions as, \"Have a good day.\" Bank tellers have to say that or else they get punished. And, and, one, one I really hate, \"I hear you.\" This is language employed as a substitute for caring whether the person you're talking to has a good day or not. It's language use to disguise the fact that you haven't really heard that you're not in fact interfacing with anyone. Covering up is what's involved in those terms now, it seems to me. The term computer literacy falls into the same category. Let's consider for a moment that new machine, the Apple computer companies Macintosh. Already just in the name, cuteness approaches. The machine itself has all these neat little buttons with the pictures on. If you wanna erase something, you push the one that has a trash can drawn. Welcome to \"Saturday-morning cartoon.\" Here's a machine designed to treat everyone, if you'll forgive the anthropomorphization as a child it's a silly and a obnoxious to me as music. You ever- You ever hear a carpenter talk about a mchammer or a mcscrewdriver? The Macintosh, what's going on? I think it's mainly just a pathetic attempt at wittiness at the playful use of language for the purpose of entertainment. Something that truly literate people accomplished with ease. But I think what's being sold is the illusion of humanness in the machine and with it the dangerous illusion that in manipulating the computer you're involved in a real exchange. The sort of exchange that human beings carry on with each other through natural language, but a much safer and easier exchange because the machine really can't talk back, can't offer a friendliness. The Macintosh isn't friendly in any real sense. It offers the second-rate friendliness of a certain convenience and usefulness because I gather it really is a pretty good computer. Which brings me to the issue of quality in my polemic, a central issue, and what has been misnamed the computer revolution. Last year I happened to sit through dinner with a gaggle of authors. all of whom had written books having something rather to do with computers. They talked heatedly with great excitement about the computerized means they were using to write about computers. About all the amazing ways in which you could record and edit your pros and then transmit it to a publisher, and how very revolutionary all of this was. Not once, however, not even in passing that any of those authors talk about the contents of their books. No one seemed remotely interested in the question of whether all those sentences, paragraphs and pages, which through the wonders of high technology could now be concocted and put into print with blazing speed and maybe even some savings in costs were worth reading. I realized this is an old complaint but when people talk about the information revolution for which the computer presumably serves as Che Guevara, I keep wondering, information about what? I think it's pretty clear that our ability to spew out information through computerized means is already far outstripped our ability to come up with information that's worth anybody's time to bother about. Word processors. I know writers good writers who swear by them. And I feel sure that writers who work against tight deadlines can use them to good effect. Word processors can give daily journalists for instance, the power to do revisions, a luxury many could not afford before. I'm suspicious though. I bought an electronic typewriter not long ago a sort of halfway word processor. I used it to write a second draft of some stuff and it lived right up to its advertisements. It allowed me to turn out a much neater second draft than I'd ever produced before. And it really did increase the speed with which I rewrote. But looking back at that draft which needs a lot of further rewriting, I find that I don't care that the typing's neat. That doesn't matter because a neatly type manuscript is easily bought but one that deserves to be typed perfectly, that's harder to come by. As for the speed, I think this new typewriter lets me type too quickly. I need my second, third and fourth thoughts as you've gathered by now. And I , And I was so enchanted with the machine and so involved in writing into it that I didn't have many of those. It's, it's not a fault in the design of the machine, obviously it's just a matter of learning how to use it or adapting to it the way fine carpenters adapt to their tools. There's a larger point though what, what the is computer is known as word processors really have to offer our society. Increased production of pros and the main more stuff in print but not better stuff. Shakespeare we are told, wrote \"Hamlet\" in a few weeks but it wouldn't really matter if it taken him 15 years. To put it another way, I've resigned myself to the fact that electronic typewriters and the like won't enable me to write \"Hamlet\" not in three weeks, not in 15 years. I believe that compared to the invention which is the English language the invention called a computer is a paltry thing. Literacy, real literacy to me is to me the ability to revel in our native tongue and any number of utilitarian arguments can be framed for acquiring literacy, that sword. But utilitarian arguments aren't necessary. Literacy gives a person access to the best that humanity is known and thought a reward that is sufficient in itself. So I believe that the difference between the ability to operate a computer even one that isn't especially user-friendly and a mastery of the English language is the difference between knowing how to do something and knowing why you wanna do it. So much for my polemic. If you can stand it, I would like to change the subject and talk for a while about the residue of my experience about what I really care about. Not the using of computers or the ever-growing heap of nonsense being spoken about them, but the making of things specifically the building of a computer and the building of a house. A few years ago, I spent my time watching computers build a new computer and last summer, I watched some carpenters put together a new house. Don't ask me why. I'm not sure. I have a feeling though that the combination of experiences ought to be edifying. Obviously the two undertakings of building a house and building a computer are very different. There is for instance, I think a greater calmness in the carpenter's approach than in the engineers. And I think that has something to do with tradition. The basic principles of the automatic digital computer were laid down in the 19th century but that technology is really much younger than that. And computer engineering history gets scrunched everything speeded up and the, as in the by now hackneyed gimmick of time-lapse photography. Remember the Walt Disney movies where you saw roses bloom in 25 seconds, that sort of thing. The engineers I know would speak of a, of a 10-year-old computer as ancient. A lot of the primary tools the engineers used, were as new were almost as new as the machines they were trying to build. It was different. It's different with carpenters, it really is. I was asking one, a very thoughtful intellectual carpenter the sort of person who constantly analyzes his own thoughts and then sometimes analyzes his analysis. I was asking him to explain his obvious affection for his tools. And he held up a loft, his 22 ounce framing hammer and gave it a shake and said something about function following form. His hammer incorporates big improvements in the fastening of the head to the handle, but otherwise it's nearly identical to the Roman claw hammer, which really is an ancient device. Anyway, the differences between computer and house building are as numerous as you'd expect when it's just be most of the similarities and of these I'm most taken by the fact that both the engineers I observed and the carpenters I've been following around seem at bottom a little other worldly, spiritually motivated toward their tasks. There's something poignant about both teams, I think and something rather admirable in that poignance. And to explain these impressions to myself, I have a sort of theory about how in America, at least one pattern of technological change can affect opportunities for practicing craftsmen. And now I'm gonna, hey, an awful lot more than you probably wanted to hear about houses but I'll get back to the computer engineers too. Modern house construction really begins in the 1830s, when the population of Chicago swelled to several hundred souls building in an old style there was a fellow he wanted to build a warehouse building in the style, then prevalent style I'll call it post and beam. The fastings we're all made of wood. And at the joints, wood is removed to keep the joints strong, you need relatively massive timbers. So the would be warehouse builder found that that such large timbers weren't real relatively readily available around Chicago anymore. So he built his building out of thin pieces of timber instead spacing the timbers closely together. And here's an important point fastening those pieces of wood together with nails. There've been nails before, of course, for centuries. The ancient Chinese were very clever in making nails and the Romans were too, but until the 19th century or late 18th nails were rather scarce and expensive. Some indication of that lies in the wills left behind by English carpenters of Massachusetts Bay. A lot of these documents say in effect, I bequeath my, to my, to my heir is my 1000 nails. I don't know how many nails went into that warehouse in Chicago but in building a modern single-family house of say 2000 square feet, a thousand nails would barely get you started. The fellow in Chicago documents show had kegs of nails at his disposal. And you could argue that he couldn't have built as he did, if techniques for manufacturing nails hadn't already been developed. This is a significant moment in the history of building. Architectural historians now apparently agree that the Chicago builder was the first Chicago building was the first balloon frame structure. And balloon framing is the direct antecedent of the framing technique in widest use today. You can argue that some do that here in the coincidence of a new framing idea and the existence of manufactured nails lies in essential underpinning of Suburbia of the veritable land reform movement that began after World War II. The, the attempt to put the largest large majority of Americans in houses of their own. An attempt for which I think we have yet to feel all the consequences. But that's off my subject. One other effect, it shows he's head of the rise of balloon framing was to reduce the difficulty of the house building craft. He didn't need to be able to fashion those complicated wooden joints anymore. Well, you need to know, needed was how to pound nails. And that's not such an easily acquired ability as any of us amateurs have learned so vividly through our thumbs but it's not one that requires a long apprenticeship either. So it's sometimes argued that balloon framing made the dream of owning a house realizable for millions. More people could become competent carpenters than before. I wouldn't wanna push the point too far, but it's clear that while framing a house is still pretty complicated only the worst sort of duffer can build a structure that won't stand for at least 20 years. You can do a pretty shoddy job of framing and nail plywood on it, and it'll stand because nails are strong and plywood has immense tensile strength. You could say a lot of the same things about a computer. If it works, if it works adequately then the user probably won't know or care about the elegance or lack of it, and the machines innards. It may make a difference in the machine's performance but it probably won't be the, the determining factor in that machine's commercial success. The people to whom the hidden elegance or lack of it matters mainly are the kind of sawers, and especially the builders. Back to houses, almost nobody in America stays in the same house for 20 years now. But so, and the framing of the house doesn't show. Moreover in the usual situation, a builder pays an economic penalty for taking more than merely adequate pains with the framing. In one usual situation, the builder works for a set price, which he'll receive no matter how much it actually costs to erect the building. That's the deal, the carpenters I was watching had with their customers. So the faster they framed in the fewer materials they used, the more money they'd make. I watched them frame their house. I won't bother you with the details but I hope you'll believe me, when I say that they were fussy. They claimed that fussiness would pay a nearly perfect frame would make the finish easy to apply. And there was some truth in that but they went far beyond such considerations, I think. And eventually, they acknowledged that. One of them said to me, rather sadly, We try to be businesslike , but I guess we're really in it because we like it.\" That was between their house and a shoddily framed one might be that theirs should stand 200, maybe 300 years. That's not a difference that many people would care about. , let it collapse. Really only the carpenters care. They're, they're fussy for their own sakes, but it does matter taking care over things that don't show as part of what makes it possible for them to get out of bed on a fine summer morning and wanna do what they have to do in any case, which is to go to work. The building of this particular house began with a skirmish or fight between the carpenters and their customers. Very typical sort of thing. And the issue was complicated, but essentially it boiled down to $660, which is one 40 thousands, of thousands of the total cost of the house. The customers wanted the contract price to be $660 less than the carpenters proposed. The carpenters gave in bitterly, \"And won't get as good a house,\" said one. And about, about two months later the carpenter who said that ordered the mason to add a tasteful calmly flourish to the chimney cap of flourish no one had asked for. A flourish that the carpenters paid for. After the argument, over $660 one of the carpenters, assigned of a Yankee Craftsmen declared, \"They'll get a good house, we just won't give them anything.\" Every day for the next two and a half months, this carpenter mentioned that $660. He talked about it as money that had been taken from him and his partners. Usually he mentioned that some while performing some tasks some nice touch, not required by the contractor. It's not. The carpenters. These carpenters didn't end up making a lot of profit on this house. I find that fact a poignant, I suppose, that's the word. It's really not an example of the way that the world ought to work, I suppose people ought to get both spiritual and material rewards for their labor. And of course, a lot don't get either. The point I think of this small example is that one effect of technological change is to exact a price from the craftsmen person, perhaps, person for the privilege of exercising craft. If balloon framing among other inventions has led to a diminution of the number and difficulty of the skills needed to build a house, then obviously it is a deuce the possibilities for doing work that a person can take pride in for the sort of work that lends meaning to life. But building a house is still tricky and difficult enough that a carpenter can do craftsmen like work, but not, I think if the carpenter also wants to be able to afford to live in the kinds of houses he likes to build. Let me try to sharpen my focus on the engineers of computer hardware, whom I spied on for a while. One young member of that fraternity, and I use the term fraternity advisedly, once told silicon-based life would have a lot of advantages over carbon-based life. He said that he believed the time would surely come when the machines would take over, just like that, he said snapped his fingers. He'd been reading too much Arthur C. Clarke. It was, it was interesting though to me that this pleasant young carbon-based engineer took obvious an immense pleasure in the prospect of his his own path leading to his own obsolescence. And the real, or at least observable world of the present. There are any number of instances of such occurrences. One of the engineer's fathers had been a hot metal typesetter. That was a real craft. It's been all been destroyed by computers by the technology that the son is involved in. I find such information piquant and not wholly regrettable. What is regrettable, at least in my utopian view of what work ought to be is the exercise, is the exercise of craft that leads to no new craft at all, but to the migration of interesting tasks from individuals to systems. Taylorism scientific management, dividing a task into pieces so small that a well-trained monkey could perform any one of them. Taylorism as I read it, is a crafty solution to problems in production. But at some point I finally hope it's not productive. When I began the research for the book, I wound up writing about the creation of a computer. I found myself on the subterranean floor of an extremely stark industrial building, a place I called the basement. Because nobody had liked it enough to give it a name. The place anywhere in industrial USA, laid out in carders and cubicles, and a pattern familiar to behavioral psychologists and to smaller confused . I was very skeptical that the possibility that anything interesting or graceful could happen there, did seem remote. I met the lieutenants of this team of hardware engineers. One of them just as soon as I met him took me to a corner of the cafeteria and started telling me all these amazing things. And it was as if this fellow who as I began to learn was very observant, had been watching. I a variety of very odd behavior for a long time, and it had in fact for 10 years and had been waiting all that time for someone to come along and we could tell him, talk to him about it. And here's what he told me more or less. That these engineers, his team of engineers had been denied the right to build their this big new machine by their company. And other team had been given that charter and they had resolved to do it anyway. To recruit a bunch of brand new graduates out of school, and they called the kids and do it sort of on the slide. There, there was talk of wars and shootouts, big wins, so on. Realistically was the term that prefaced many flights of fancy. And this is really where I got hooked, hearing this tale, it seemed unusual to me that that workers in a most frankly commercial setting could get this excited about building a computer, what, to me looked like an immobile plastic box. Also, it was called a mini computer and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what in the world that meant. It was just I think post miniskirt or and I thought it was kind of amusing term. Anyway, they were obviously all charged up about building this new mobile plastic box. And they were working six day weeks, and as often as not 12 hour days, sometimes 16 hour ones. They said things such as I've had difficult difficulty forming sentences lately or the last, the one female engineer said to me once the last three times my husband's had to do the laundry. I forgot to go home and have dinner. My favorite remark along those lines was from a charming young man who rode a motorcycle had a beard said, \"I love my job. It's great, but outside of work, I do other things. I ride my bike, I go rock climbing and hiking.\" And he looked at me, so astonished and said, \"I haven't done any of that for about a year.\" There was, there was relish in their voices. And I wanted to know where that came from. I wanted to know how come which is sort of that central question in my profession. People rarely do anything for one reason only but often one reason or one motivation takes precedence. I thought it might be money. The one of the sub-lieutenants of the hardware side of the team known as the Hardy Boys found one day in the wastebasket and the lab, a pay stub that one of the technicians said thrown in there. And the technicians are, are supposed to be of lower status than engineers, but they, because they are lower status they were supposed to get overtime, engineers don't. He looked at the pay stub and he realized that this guy was taking home twice as much money as he was because of the all the overtime they were working. So, he could've, presumably under those sort of circumstances, you could start a little revolution a little palace revolt, but he took it to his next higher boss and they fed it over and discussed it and then they burned it. So nobody else would see it. And they, these guys had some dreams of being heroes. They were told they would be, they were promised stock but they all seem skeptical about the stock, anyway. I'm told that actually, this isn't it's not easy to figure out who said this first but it's an old dictum in engineering that the a dollar sign is the proper last tournament in any good engineering equation. And this was a decidedly commercial machine. It's virtue of us to put money on the bottom line. But these engineers knew that they weren't gonna see much of that. Really they, they didn't seem to be working primarily for money. And once you get past that and you've got a natural mystery. If it's not money or power, what could it be? How could you understand Henry Kissinger? The, the first clue I think I got at least in my interpretation of these doings was when came when a one of the most brilliant engineers in the basement wasn't connected to this team told me that he had a fantasy about a job that would be better than the one he had. And this was that he would go to work for a computer company who's, who's designed whose whose engineers did a lot of designs that left a lot to be desired, and he would be a janitor. And he would sneak into their offices at night and correct the designs on their blackboards and desks. All of a sudden I realize that, engineers are aesthetes. Actually that's something that scientists have known for a long time. Terrible arguments about scientific devices between engineers and scientists, but that's another subject. There ,then there was, there was something I came across called the, that I call the rules of the game. One was what, what's the earliest date by which you can't prove you won't be finished scheduling? There was another called pinball, I'll get back to that. There was one called signing up which was a kind of collectivization. The idea being that you agreed to do part of this machine you'd agree to do whatever was necessary to get it done and including, just ruin your life. Peer pressure as it was called, but which was defined as follows. If I screw this up, I'll be the only one, and I'm not gonna be the only one. I think for the young recruits, it was a little bit like graduate school. One, one young engineer got assigned a job of low priority for about six months, started to feel wretched because everyone else was working so hard. He got offered a chance to do some grueling work and and says, I said, I, I jumped on it really. Which is sort of an updated version of Tom Sawyer's Fence. Their, their chief administrator, there wasn't much female presence. She was just about, not, not old. There was, most of it said that she felt she was doing something important. The head of the Hardy Boys said he was doing it because he wanted to find out what he was worth. The tough talking computer architect, most amusing fellow I think wanted revenge for canceled projects, and one, a little tangible success he designed about I don't know, four or five computers that he thought were really nifty, and they'd never gotten to see the light of day. As for the leader of the group, West seemed to me to be a law unto himself which was the main reason, reason why the lieutenant of the Micro Coders, the Micro Kids was participating. He was there to figure out what w why West was participating. And there was a lot of manipulation too. I, I guess the best story about that was the young man who had to build a part of the machine that needed to be done before any other part of the machine could be worked on. And his boss asked him how long it would take him to do it. He said, I think he said something like six weeks. Was it six weeks, was it four weeks, was it all like. He went back to his office. He worked day and night and it was really coming along very nicely. He went a few days later to his boss and said, I think I'll be done in two weeks. And his boss looked at him and smiled and said, \"Oh good.\" We went back to his office. He said, \"God, I just signed up to do it in two weeks.\" There was a sort of front tier approach to the management of that project that West used any, anything that came to hand, including me. I, at one point of the young Micro Kids said to me, \"Well I know what we're doing must be important if there's a writer covering it.\" And I told West that he laughed and laughed and maybe ran comfortable. Anyway, he did whatever he whatever he thought might be necessary. And then something to make it seem exciting, at the time, what might've been a pretty pretty ordinary toil into an adventure. Also, there was a technique of management working there, I think that that ran against the drift of Taylorism. Which might describe as follows, be nasty but give everyone a meaningful piece of the machine to do, give everyone some real responsibility. Now, mind you, this wasn't everyone's idea of a good time. There was, there were a number of very talented young engineers who dropped out of the project midstream and West used to wonder, he'd say maybe they are other smart ones here. One of my favorite of those guys, brilliant young engineer who's doing just fine now, I think. Just couldn't stand dealing with nanoseconds anymore, I mean, not with this machine was driving crazy And, billions of things that operate in billions of a second. And when he not long before he quit he left a note on his computer console, which said, \"I'm going to a commune in Vermont and we'll deal with no unit of time, shorter than a season.\" So, what happened? They built, they did it, they built their machine in record time, it actually went out the company's door. In fact, probably saved, saved that fortune 500 company from real financial chaos. The stock options were then a long time coming and they were hardly generous when they came, at least in the first year or two afterward. The team was disbanded all of the managers except for West, left the company. Some of them feeling not only unappreciated but even punished for what they'd done. There were lots of explanations for that. That, I mean, it wasn't an intentional piece of management. And to some degree, to be honest, I have to say that the ones who stuck around got, have gotten rewarded since then, pretty handsomely I gathered. But where it ended for me was on that rather sour note. I wonder if I can tell you what it all means. You could say that it shows how eagerly engineers participate in screwing themselves. Right? I really think there's some truth to that. I'm not, I'm not arguing that engineers ought to form a union but it's interesting to contemplate what such a union might be like, it might even be honest. Be as tremendously powerfully but that'll never happen. Because every engineer is encouraged to think that he's a potential president of the companies working for or some other one that he'll start. I think, there's another issue that's connected to this. And it has to do with the obsolescence of engineers particularly in an industry like the computer one. Young engineers come out of school and they're cheaper. And that technology changes quickly a, a seasoned engineer really best education for a fellow wants to stay in that business for a fair amount of time with being in the natural sciences, acquire the ability to to keep up with this stuff, because the young guys coming out of school know far more than the people who've been working building computers for two or three years, far more technically. And I think that's a very big problem for the industry. There are all kinds of our adult computer engineers who are pumping gas and have gone to . Also maybe another moral of the story is that there's a price to be paid for exciting work. I'm not suggesting that it should be this way. I think engineers like carpenter should have money in spiritual awards, but I don't think that that's the way the world works for most people just now. That team wasn't quite Darwinian, it wasn't quite managed Red in tooth and claw. I think that was clearest when one very aggressive young engineer told me that whole thing was to compete with each other as vigorously as possible, but if someone got knocked down, you had to build them up again. And really do a good job of that so that you could compete with him some more. Alright. Certainly dangerous in this kind of job. One may be that you never quite get the repeat the excitement of it and don't really want to. There's another one which is that, that kind of a world gets very narrow very cloistered, almost monastic, I think. And one of the ways I think that showed was that most or many of these people had a real really lack knowledge about the consequences of the labor. Some didn't care, very cheerfully and said such things, as, we said the ultimate purpose of building a machine is to have it run a multiprogramming reliability test. And sort of, by the way one of them one told me that he really didn't like working on weapons systems, he had worked on the guidance system for the ABM, ABM anyway. He didn't like missile but he loved working on its complex electronic innards. Others felt very strongly about this issue of working on weapons and all, however, we're powerless. I'm not sure it's ever been very different. I'm not sure it can be. I think that the people who make things rarely have control over how they use. Certainly a computer if it's well-designed can be used for absolutely pernicious chores and for silly ones and even some useful ones. I don't myself, like all of the ways in which computers are used or promised to be used. I think mainly sometimes there's a tendency kind of grows out of them to quantify everything. And I don't hold any brief for that computer company or any other computer company. But I did come away feeling in spite of all my pre-existing attitudes about work in America about engineering. I just thought all engineers were nerds. Actually, I think I'll get one of those, one of these days. My carpenter said I followed, maybe one out of wood. But nothing fits in it. And about engineering that I, that I'd watch I did come away feeling that I watched something oddly inspiring my book. I talked about John Ruskin, rather unfortunately. He wrote about this theory that the great medieval cathedrals of Europe, that in them you could see the emblem of free labor given freely. Well, not too much is known about medieval building. I now know, but it does appear that Ruskin the labor wasn't organized to build those cathedrals in the way Ruskin wished it had been. That's still his, his, his argument for kind of free labor is, is moving and strong. And I think he was one of the first interesting thinkers to point out that you could judge thing that human beings had built. 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it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491#t=695.52,697.348"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491/transcript/29864/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Crowd:\u003c/strong\u003e (laughs loudly).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491#t=697.348,699.2"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491/transcript/29864/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, sorry (chuckles).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491#t=699.2,700.45"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491/transcript/29864/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anything else that I can confuse you 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situation)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491#t=709.247,714.247"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491/transcript/29864/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e -:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I don't think it has anything to do with the age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491#t=724.48,726.96"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491/transcript/29864/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It has something to do with 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engineer","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491#t=749.02,750.25"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491/transcript/29864/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than the one you've got","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491#t=750.25,751.4"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/45525/file/118491/transcript/29864/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you have to pay twice as 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intrinsically interesting field that they have to be willing to pay the price. But it's gladdening I think that they care more about their jobs than they do about money. It's an attitude that makes anyone who possesses it easy to exploit. And so it's an attitude that's hard to sustain in a world full of understandable, easily justifiable and hardly softening greed. What I think I'm talking about is the human desire for interesting work set against the human drive for inventing new tools and techniques, for finding new ways of doing things that increase profit and can incidentally reduce opportunities for craft. The two desires often seem to spring from the same basic impulses. Craft tends to destroy craft, or at least to rearrange the terms under which craft can be practiced. I mean by craft, interesting work. Work that you want to be right. I found perhaps because I wanted to do something vaguely heroic, albeit selfish in the willingness of a bunch of carpenters and a bunch of engineers to make economic and other sorts of sacrifices for the sake of being interested in their jobs. The computer engineers talk about pinball, which I just told you I would come back to, when they talked about motivation. Pinball was defined as follows. You win one game you get to play the next. You win with this machine, you get to go to the next interesting big machine. The carpenters seem to see their future similarly half finished with one big new house. They sit around at lunch, discussing with relish the next job and the ways in which they'd do it better. The wish to play pinball, as the computer engineers defined it, is a hope to get the reward Sisyphus got. You know, the guy who had to roll the stone endlessly to the top of the hill and had to come down before it got there. To some, obviously Sisyphus' burden is a vision of hell but the great French writer Albert Camus saw it differently. And I think you'd have to say of my carpenters and my computer engineers, I don't mean mine, I mean, ones that watched what Camus said of Sisyphus which is \"one must imagine him happy\".\r\n\r\n- That's all I have to say here tonight but I can answer questions if you have some.\r\n\r\n- Are there any questions? Yes.\r\n\r\n- The increase in use of creates more stuff, but not necessarily better stuff. What do you think the effect is of that? What does that mean?\r\n\r\n- I don't know. Decimation of forest .\r\n\r\n- I think, but that's a good question. I'm not sure it really means anything. Gosh, more confusion though. More paper pushing. There was an interesting study that I can't cite to now. And I can't cite it the way a good scholar would, having to do with the commercial applications of computers at a certain time, not too long ago, maybe different now, but this study suggested that about 40% of all commercial applications of computers were uneconomical, in the sense that the job that they were bought to perform ended up costing more, than it had before after the computer was installed. But not all the people who got them were unhappy 'cause they found other things to do. And besides they felt kind of, you know, pretty cool to have a computer here, you know, .\r\n\r\n- What that suggests to me is that you get, I mean computers are always sold by PR men as. I mean one PR man actually said to me once, we're not in competition with other computer companies we're in competition with labor. That's a whole setup. That's a whole problem unto itself but I want to get into if unless you want me to. But it was, it seems obvious to me that there's a whole Legion of paper pushing. I mean a whole lot of paper pushing now that is being made necessary by not just computers but more, probably more important you know, Xerox machines, copying machines. But I have no idea what it all means, you know, I really don't like technological forecasting. Yes.\r\n\r\n- What about the of the older engineers that worked at general? How about their experience of undertaking that opportunity? You know, were they motivated to build a new machine? Were they more interested in managing?\r\n\r\n- Yeah, I think the older... I had a whole theory, you know, it's probably, it's always dangerous to generalize from a small group of people, but I don't mind doing it .\r\n\r\n- [Crowd] .\r\n\r\n- It seemed to me that there was something intrinsic in that trade that made it very hard after about the age of 30. Or maybe even a little younger to wanna go on doing what you've been doing before. The pace of projects was Swift. You know, the work could be grueling. The hours were long. The kids coming out of school seemed to know so much more about all the latest stuff in ships, you know, And so the.. And also I think in the training of engineers at least the ones I knew, the idea of prospect of being a manager. I mean, that was what you're supposed to be. That was your, one of the prescribed steps in your path through life. So I think there was almost an inborn desire to be a manager. The fellow Carl Lossing who was so wonderfully honest with me put it this way. He said, \"I used to scream and holler about Nan Gates and bits and bytes, but I'm too old to feel that way about computers now.\" And then he went on to say, \"West is what interests me.\" .\r\n\r\n- What's he doing? But yeah, you know, I think that's... On the other hand, and I don't know what the success they've had. Places like Bell labs have tried to create a separate sort of hierarchical structures for technologists, so that they can advance up the ladder and still remain engineers. I don't really, I'd have no idea how well that works. Is that answering sort of , yes.\r\n\r\n- How long are personal computers build to last?\r\n\r\n- Gee, I don't know. We'll see. Maybe as long as hula hoops\r\n\r\n- [Crowd] .\r\n\r\n- I don't know. I don't know too much about them. I really bailed out. After I wrote that book, you know, it was just sort of coincidence that the whole, the big wave of public fascination hit and I just, every... I just kept getting letters and phone calls saying, write this, write that about computers and hey, listen, I'm watching a story unfold. It's just like the one you told coming right about us. And I wanted to get away from it. I really did. So I don't know much about personal computers. I just know what I hear on TV. And you know, I get tired of it. How long do you think they're built to last? I suppose, you know, I mean, chips, chips will function. I mean, those machines probably will function till the chips get dusty, which would be a long time . Dusty, that was a joke that someone told me.\r\n\r\n- Yes,\r\n\r\n- Yeah, well, it's interesting. Gadgetry wouldn't be quite the right word. I think that most of these... These people I'm writing about first of all, are men almost exclusively, a couple of exceptions. But as little boys they like to tinker with things. That seems to be true also to carpenters. But the computer engineers whom I knew at least the hardware side of that team, didn't really like to play with computers. That seemed to them really stupid. Their game was much more interesting to them. Micro coders who were halfway between hardware, people and programmers did like too. And, I mean in that, to that extent, you know the gadgetry was interesting, but they were so engaged. I mean, the tools is what interested them. The tools really interested carpenters in some of the same ways. Although I think carpenters have a closer relation to them. I mean, those things have been around a lot longer and they can buy one when they're a young fellows starting out something really fine and keep it for the rest of their career. And there's no whole long tradition of carpenters passing down their tools. And I don't think computer engineers are gonna be passing down logic analyzers .\r\n\r\n- For one thing, I don't own them. Yes.\r\n\r\n- Are you planning on doing a project of this nature 10 years .\r\n\r\n- Well, I'm working on this house thing right now. Yeah it's very strange book. Get a lot of blank looks, when I tell people what I am doing.\r\n\r\n- But I got a lot of blank looks when I was doing this, the computer one. That doesn't necessarily mean that what I'm doing now is a good idea but I'm in the middle of that. I don't know what I'm gonna do next. I gotta go fishing. Yes.\r\n\r\n- From the perspective of journalism you analyzed computers. What do you think would happen if someone would do the opposite ?\r\n\r\n- Psychopaths sexuality--\r\n\r\n- No, that's the wrong one. I don't know. I mean analyze journalists, people have done that you know, I don't know . There had been some funny things. There's a book called \"The Boys And The Bus\" which was a book about the journalists covering one of the presidential campaigns. That was pretty lively, interesting. Journalists drink a lot. A lot of them do. I don't know what else to say, you know.\r\n\r\n- [Crowd] .\r\n\r\n- That didn't answer your question, but I'm not sure I understood it.\r\n\r\n- [Crowd] .\r\n\r\n- Okay, sorry . Anything else that I can confuse you about? Yes.\r\n\r\n- Oh, I don't think it has anything to do with the age. It has something to do with salaries. I mean, you know. Peter engineers aren't pulling their weight unless there's some special reason, I'll get thrown out on the stream. And if you have... 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