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And. And so when I got married I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35389/file/104424#t=15.48,19.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35389/file/104424/transcript/21819/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"added Turner Whiskey and Dee was my middle name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35389/file/104424#t=19.47,21.98"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35389/file/104424/transcript/21819/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then I said Raim just struck that. 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So there are people who think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35389/file/104424#t=24.28,26.01"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35389/file/104424/transcript/21819/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there are two different and maybe in some of my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35389/file/104424#t=26.01,28.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35389/file/104424/transcript/21819/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"records they think they're two different people. 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OK. I will say I'm writing printing my name here as Kathleen Desmond train ask because there's been a you know when I first started as a student I was Kathleen Desmond. And. And so when I got married I added Turner Whiskey and Dee was my middle name. But then I said Raim just struck that. And so I wrote Kathleen I am. So there are people who think there are two different and maybe in some of my records they think they're two different people. I can imagine how interested it could be but we will be OK. So today is March 15th 2011. We're here at Iowa State University to record the oral history of Kathy Trey Maskey and her recollections of the Department of Chemistry. Thank you. Collections will be a little bit different because I sort of gradually morphed from being a student to being a faculty member through a lot of different titles. And so the way I came to be a student at Iowa State I was born in Massachusetts and went to school here and went to a small women's college in Boston. Ended up mystery and chemistry because I liked it very much and did pretty well. I graduated in 1960 and at that time the only real career options for women were to be a teacher or something like a nurse or a lab technician. I majored in chemistry mostly because I liked it. I remember my father was always would always say but what will you do. And you know in the Boston area there were jobs in the medical labs and so forth but they were all pretty or I would have considered low level. And during during the course of of of my high school and college career I guess I had some kind of medical area might be possible. But then I learned I did not like biology. I didn't like the study of it and I didn't like the smell of the formaldehyde in the labs which is a bit ironic since I ended up in an organic chemistry area. But when you were considering graduate schools being in a small school I really love this team a little bit because it's it's saturated. I thought I was going to apply to places in New England at the time that the state schools in New England were very very weak. University Massachusetts was always was in the western part of the state. Kind of a remote area. And places like New Hampshire Vermont Maine you know where nothing much because the private schools were so strong and there were so many of them and they didn't need the public school didn't need to be good. Schools that have graduate programs were places like Harvard. Now my team and I had no I just didn't think I wanted I could compete in that kind of a place maybe but that maybe I couldn't. But that was my perspective. So a woman who had graduated Emmanuel College was my school woman who had graduated in the maybe 10 years earlier and more maybe more had gone to work for American brass and Foundry and became acquainted with Vilmer Fassl. He consulted for them and he recruited her to graduate school here. And I was late and she did very well in what I've now learned. Their standard recruiting kind of procedures was you know in the office that I was state at the time. There was this school funny little school in Boston where somebody had done well. So they sent a letter saying we'd be happy to see more of your students. You and I were both chemistry majors that we might want if we were going to go far away. We might want to go together. So we both applied and we were kind of number one and two in the chemistry major group at our school. And within probably four days of sending in our applications we got acceptances of financial offers that were better than any of the local schools could mention because that was in the real heyday of Ames Labs supporting so much. And I think my my assistantship was two hundred and fifteen dollars a month. But that was that was more than other places were offering. And so they they just came so fast that it seemed like we got so excited and so did my friend. And we both came out here to Iowa State enrolled as graduate students. There were so many in our incoming class that for 70 greater students chemistry taught women. Only two of us ever got the HD and the other one died. Unfortunately in an accent she worked with John Corbett and she should. Four years later she did finish AP HD. Mariangela qu'est. So it was interesting coming to Iowa as a whole. She died in an accident with John Corbett. No she had worked for drunk drug. I. I'm not giving clear sentences. If she had worked for John Corbett and maybe I don't know maybe 10 to 15 years later she was was killed. So. It didn't really occur to me until probably the first meeting we had as a group of new graduate students. It was particularly unusual to be female and be in that situation. And time we were assigned to an adviser. I had indicated organic chemistry is my main interest. I was assigned to Glenn Russell. My friend was a physical chemist and was assigned to Fitzwater. There was a name that was on the faculty for a very short time in the early 60s. I've never heard Fitzwater. He had some some. I think he was one of the people that had gotten his degree maybe underspending or somewhere in the department. I don't remember. But Charles Charles Fitzwater. She left after one quarter because she had a boyfriend who was in the Air Force at the time. And he was probably going to be. He actually did end up going to Vietnam. And so she left to get married. So here I was because it was coming so far away and it was such an unknown thing. I came with the intention of just getting a master's degree. And as a statue that was really not usual it used to frustrate me the forms would say you know M.S. prerequisite or M.S. terminal. I would cross that right voluntary. It didn't occur on the physical chemistry diagnostic then. I did on the organic diagnostic. And so Glenn who had never had a woman in the group. And if you remember Glenn was shy. He was not. It wasn't that he was anti-social. He was quite social in many ways. But he was just kind of shy quiet. And so he wasn't quite sure what was going to happen with a female in his group and the rest of his group. He had several older students who had been in the service and were a little bit rough around the edges. And they were pretty much sure that it wasn't going to work to have a woman in the group. And so he had a couple of times the idea with me that perhaps since I had done so well in the physical chemistry exam that I really wanted to be a I didn't. I stayed with organic and and eventually became good friends with most of the people in the group. There were a few incidents where you know they would leave things on my desk and say these need to be filed assuming that I was the one who would know how to do that. And they would often not let me start a reaction until they had checked all the clamps. And you know there was a Big Brother kind of attitude that. No. Could have been worse but it was very fortunate that these are some of 1960. I think you said that you would get it in the fall of 1960. And I'm actually very fortunate in the research project that was given because I was spending an awful lot of time on my being. But it's fun to think that the rescue group that was quite large and he was studying free radical reactions and there was one group that we call the classical radical group. It was current extension of work. He had done a lot of work on free radical chlorination and solvent effects and things like that. Before he came he had done some of that at General Electric before he came to Iowa State. And so they were continuing to look at reactivity of a lot of classical radicals like chlorine atoms and fennel radicals and as well as a lot of oxidation reactions which is all radical stuff and. There's a smaller group looking at stable radical anions and that was the branch that really took off in that couple of years. Ed Jannsen and Timestream started the same year that I did and they were the ones that develop DSR techniques for looking at these stable radicals. And so you know those those two groups of people worked even though they had separate. They worked together a lot. We wanted to masters. And I was a girl. And I'll lead with this radical called. There's this reaction with a compound called Imbroglios Sex and. And people assume that the mechanism is a sex animal radical forms and that's the chain carrying species. But nobody's ever been able to get re activities of this sex in a little radical. So we can get that that would fit in with these other studies about radicals. And it would be a nice you know kind of isolated simple project. So you know not knowing you better said Cheryl. I'll look I'll look up. And the first thing I did was a very good literature search which was one of the things having the I did in a small liberal arts college. We did not have a lot of sophisticated lab experience. We had on the basic basic techniques. We were really taught how to do literature searches how to use abstracts how to do term papers all of that. So I did a very thorough research. And in fact this whole S.A.M. radical thing had never been really documented. It was just assumed somebody wrote it down and it made sense in the same way that other radical reactions which had been experimentally verified had been done. So I looked some more and thought well this you know this doesn't look quite the way people expect. So did some of the experiments which should have led to the very activity of the sex and a little radical. And got some numbers. And there was a very good undergraduate working in the group whose name was Chuck de Boer. And he was a little bit of an odd personality. So he was also kind of working on his own on bromine atom re activities. And one week we had group meeting and just as kind of a catchall Chuck Tibor and I were both supposed to report what was going on. And lo and behold we both got up to the board and gave essentially the same numbers for the bromine atom reactivity and for the IBS which is an Bromo six a.m. directive activity. And we kind of all went oh it's not a sexy nimble radical. It's a bromine atom that's involved here. And there was stuff in the literature that would support that. And it turned out that's in all the textbooks still. I mean that was a big thing to watch to verify. That mechanism even got more interesting than that because there were two other groups J.C. Martin at Illinois who is a young person at the time and became quite quite well known as an organic chemist and choose Walling who was sort of the big gun in free radical chemistry who is at Columbia. We're also looking at aspects of NBFC reactions and walling actually sort of was coming to a different conclusion but through a different route was coming to the same conclusion. So talk to some to Jesse Martin I believe at a meeting and they decided they would publish simultaneously three rowing's publication when at the same time. And because he was sort of the more famous I mean some of this is my combination of position and vague memories. But because he was more famous at the time I went first and it was much less clear I think in somehow probably in the reviewing or after having seen her work in Martin's that he kind of changed his conclusions. You know I don't know that someday maybe. I don't I don't know if ever go back and read it. We had published a a a communication first with this simple straight fact. I mean it was it was short and basic and to the point it was just pretty clear the numbers were bromine. This and the numbers for the NBA. So this and there was a good chance that they're there the same thing. So there was a master's thesis by a girl. A pretty nice nice thing to have happen. It was so you know I wanted to just stop with the Masters and go back because I just wasn't sure if I wanted to make the time for APHC because my family I had always been quite close to my mother died when I was very young and my father my three younger sisters who were still some in high school and college. And my father was back there. So I know going back after two years and and getting a job. Would seem like a reasonable thing to do. And I actually interviewed here with somebody from Dow Chemical they had a lab outside Boston Eastern Regional Lab at the time which was one of them from the days of pure research labs that the companies operated. And they offered me a position. And so I was going back to that before I got back. Emmanuel one of the people from Emanuel contacted me and said that the person who I actually had had for organic chemistry laboratory work had received a fellowship to complete APHC and they needed someone to teach labs. Would I be interested. And I had done enough as a teacher here that I had gotten. I came with the idea that that was going to be the worst thing in the world to have to be a teacher. I had no interest at all in teaching but through the teaching I had done I decided I really liked it. And so so even though this lab drub sounded good I thought I would try the teaching for a while. And so I did. I'd ended up staying there three years and in the third year actually did stay where I mean back in a manual teaching there in Boston for three years and had some very good students in the. One of them. I don't know if you've ever met Kathy Costello. She was at the awards banquet when you got your word. She got the mass spec award. Oh okay. She was. She went to. She worked with Crossbeam and M.I.T. for a number of years and kind of ran his mass spec experimental groups. And when he retired she was recruited to Boston University Medical School and has a is the head of a big mass spec lab that does a lot of medical related mass spectrometry. Well a lot of methods and things. So she's done very well. A couple of others who did well. I really enjoyed the teaching. It became apparent that that to go anywhere and I really should have APHC said left here in good standing. I was still in touch a little bit with people. And I wrote and said you know I've got to come back. And I said sure. So I did. But I was 19 from 19 summer of 1965. And in the fall of 64 Walt had joined the faculty. So I met him after I came back. Now it turns out that three years that I was in Boston he was at M.I.T. and Harvard and he used to go to the M.I.T. He had a joint organic colloquium. They would bring in speakers. And one of the ways I kept kind of interested was I would go to those. And so we were probably in the same room at some of those. I took a course at Boston University and our game on italics to kind of keep in touch. And I got to know a couple of people from be you that way. So you know I was still a little bit involved. And so when I came back I got in stream and things went pretty well. And we were married in 67. And at that point I was in my Piercey research was not nearly as successful or more concisely put together. I spent a long long time looking for a mystery radical and then ended up doing some kind of routine things. And so putting the pieces together was not a lot of fun which is maybe a more typical experience than what I had before. In December thirty first of 1968 I had our first child. I finished my thesis in the spring of 69 and had my oral somewhere maybe fall of 69. I formally graduated in November of 69 and then had our second child in January of 1970. So in 13 months I had two babies and a thesis which was I said Prester Year Scandalise when you and well started dating. He was a young faculty doing exactly that. When I came back I was a little older than the incoming students. So people like Doyle was you know he was Mott's first class of students. So he had started actually took prelims with him because it was I had this I went through the course sequence again because it had been three years just to. But then I took premium's at the end of the first year. So I was kind of with that group of students that had come in in the meantime. And that was a very good class or organic people. Ted Cook became chair at the University of Colorado and Wayne Dean was at Kansas State for a number of years. Dave Bailey. What became of New York while Ben was on the fact that he was actually the recruiting person when I came back. Did did you know Phil at all. Sequential things about faculty make it the things that was very different about. It's interesting coming through Gilman saying how quiet it is on that second floor. We're like we're Crowson at their offices. I was in one of those labs and the rest of Russell's group was in those labs and then around the corner and across the hall where all of Chapman's group records were always open. And if we had we had Blackbaud on one of them you know they'd be the joke of the day or the announcement of the day or the chemical the day or whatever. And people went back and forth very easily and shared equipment and chemicals. And there was a coffee pot in the Chatmon lab. So I would go over there. Sounds like fun. Really. Well I mean it was but was probably worked every night and all weekend. So you know 24 hours a day it was that kind of atmosphere every night like Wednesday nights at 10 o'clock someone to go running through the holiday. It's beer time and everybody would go downtown. Before I actually met Walt for the first time was at Dave's Lounge down on Fifth Street in downtown when the group had taken me along with somebody who was having a party after an oral and. And that was right after I got back and they invited me to come down. And in time Kinsel who was on the faculty and you don't know if you would have known time and the whole of the story there. And Chuck Kingsbury they were the three young organic people in that time until they all came to that party. And that was that was when I actually first met him at the time. And Chuck Kingsbury and Larry King who was as a postdoc with Chuck Tipu that he was very good with instrumentation. And when the first atama at the first Panamas were purchased actually in fifty nine or 60 I remember them moving in the magnets and Roy got involved with setting up and operating them and he actually taught a course which trained the graduate students how to use them. And so he had a faculty position for a while. He eventually moved to New Richard Florida at Gainesville. And in that position he was from England. He was kind of a character. But he and Walt were roommates. They had an apartment down on it. So kids would be Kinsel and Roy King and a couple postdocs was one name. Sam Dominion who was a postdoc with Chapman used to play games every Friday night. And then when I came back that summer some dominion he was the postdoc which Chapman was right across the hall. They said no a couple of other English postdocs who pretty well anyway he I used to do crossword puzzles alone. He said you know you like games. And I think you said you wanna to come to our game night sometime. So I don't really know the dates. We're usually at Walt and Roy's apartment. Canceling things very well. Book married and had little kids which was no good reason not to go home on Friday night. I thought we would play games every Friday night and we played and these were these were serious. Sometimes monopoly risk never played. Taking over the World Cup chapter. Yeah. And they were very cutthroat players. They were serious about it. And so I became kind of part of that group. And then gradually and I kind of you know we see each other and in between times and I'm not sure at what point we we formally went on a date but we at the first time never saw while he was on my committee and I never took a course that he taught at that point I was pretty much you know just standard course sequences where were assigned to me was pretty clear that was not likely that anything I would take would be something that he was teaching and he was not on my committee. So intrusive I think anything official. He was not in a position to affect my my grades or or any evaluations of me directly. I mean there were some who would always take on and agree on who passed Freeland's for example the whole division. But he was only one out of and I don't know if he abstained at that point. I don't I don't remember anyway when we were being very simple that if we would go to the movies or go out to dinner we'd go to Des Moines in time. We went to a movie into Moines big theater and I think was Meryl Hay movie. It was almost full climbed in found two seats in the middle sat down and somebody tapped us on the back. There were three graduate students so much. Yes I think probably people knew before we knew they knew but then it was sort of serious enough I guess that nobody was terribly concerned. So we got engaged in December of 1966. So it was sort of you know spring and summer. I came back in 65 and the fall was pretty cold and then spring and summer was when we were dating and became engaged. And Christmas and. The. Brussels and the Chapmans. And the cancels had this huge engagement party for us. It was a three part. We had cocktails at the Russell and appetizers at the Russell's house and then we moved to the Chapmans for dinner and he was kind of a gourmet cook. Chairman's wife Fay first wife. And she remembers very elaborate dinner. And she had two teenagers that she knew serving us. And then we went to the counsels for after dinner champagne and dessert whatever. And so it was really really quite a social event. There were more social events in the department in those days. But that was that was quite a spectacular one because there were probably seven or eight organic faculty. It was it was just the faculty and me which was so I was I was kind of in this in-between stage by that by that point. But that was okay. Everybody I think it was it's hard to tell now from my perspective it seemed to be more of a closeness. In a way there were more social activities and involved students and professors I think. And so that kind of mingling in back and forth was was. And as I said the whole the whole feeling in the halls was much more interactive and more seminars. The precursor of the departmental seminar. It was the Friday afternoon journal club that was that had started before I came in 1960. And it had like three o'clock coffee and cookies or whatever would be served in the seminar would be at 4:00. So everybody would go at 3:00 and talk and visit and then go to the seminar. And those were either outside speakers or. Or internal ones. Because when I came in 1960 there was only old Gilman. And so the seminary then we're over in physics. Three four five. The new new addition opened in 64. When I came back room thirteen fifty two was there. And and and that's in the summer. I was moved to two Gilman additional what we call it. And and there were divisional. Every division had a seminar. I mean I guess in some ways they still do. But there was just a lot more activity of that kind. It seemed like in those days anyway. Was this my personal thing. We're not much to take many hours through. I just want to know how much I remember. So after we were married Walt didn't have tenure at the time. We weren't sure we would be here. And then I had these two little babies very soon because I was older and I couldn't wait indefinitely. And so I didn't really think about what I would do. And pretty much to suppose a year or two or four year and a half. But then somebody called me and said you know we had to add a couple of sections of organic lab. Would you be willing to teach them. So I thought well sure that would be a good a good thing and be part time. I could you know that would close to campus. I had somebody come in and do it and get away from any of us wants to know. I yes. I remember the first couple of months when I was just home with the baby. That was really pretty funny. You can laugh now. Yeah. I actually watch soap operas or have a voice you know that. And and they and the unpredictable nature of babies where you don't know when you're going to be needing to do something. So I was fortunate enough that when I first came back I think they were like one and two. And there was a student wife across the street who had a baby of comparable age. She just brought her over to my house so I didn't have to bundle them up and take them out or anything. And great now. And then they got a little older. I do you know Mary Dangler at all. Who. Yes I was. Yes. Well she she she babysat her mother live up on Highland and she walked down and she babysat for my two older kids for a while when I was doing that teaching her grandfather you know her her mother's father was a chemist. Professor Brown. No I didn't know that she'd be she would be one to talk to about the department. Louise Dangler do you do you know her. Yeah she's she's at least 80 now. She sings in the Heartland show and she's quite active but she. Yeah. Her father was was an early member of the chemistry faculty. So anyway I kept doing that. That became a little more regular to where they sort of assumed that if they needed somebody the next quarter we were on quarters then I would do it. And and that was it was convenient at that time. The timing you know we'd have breaks and nothing in the summer and all that. And then I had a third child and again after Buddy which was about a year year and half. They called me now that this whole thing about the temporary teaching was initially it was good for the reasons that it was part time. It was. It was not stressful. I enjoyed the actual contact with the student and I had done that. I could like especially the I did a lot mostly organic labs and organics grading and knowing from term to term became all that bothersome. You know what a few years ago by begin to think well I would like to have something more predictable. I would like. I want to do something I know I'm not cut out for the sole purpose in that. And. For a strange messages from different different department chairs like one who we were going on vacation in August and I came over and I said you know I'd like to know how much I'm likely to be teaching so that I can because we may not be back for the first day of class if I don't you know depending on when I need to make arrangements for the kids and on them. He said oh we have at least ten men on the list who need. Who wants some teaching. And they need to support their families. So it doesn't look like we'll be anything for you. We went on the vacation and came back to a letter saying we expect you to meet S. so and so class such and such on Tuesday. And that was because you know some of those men had found other things or said no or I don't know why. I never I never pushed it but it was bothersome. So there was a lot of that kind of attitude that we're doing you a favor with. We're throwing your when there are when there are people who really need a job who could be doing it because everybody was like that. But but there were there were some. There was also this concern after after doing it for a few years about the de facto tenure business and the yuppy until another letter that I have somewhere in my souvenir says. Well this is one of the ones that happened a little later and I. I have my. Suspicions about what happened. But the central administration is concerned about ongoing temporary appointments. We will not be able to hire you during this year. And it was the idea that if maybe if there was a break in. If it wasn't continuous that the de facto tenure thing would not come up then. And I think this is the sequence and I could have some of this garbled because similar sorts of things happen. I think that was the year that Tom Barton was became head of Ames lab. And he said one of the conditions for doing it would be that the teaching of the organic teaching that he was supposed to do that year would be covered by someone that he approved of. Oh like me or Martha. That's what happened because in spite of this letter that said we would not be hired that year and many of the things that Martha and I were kind of in a parallel situation there many of the things that happened at that point were happening to both. We were both asked to to come back and teach that you kind of remember something from that period. I think that was maybe soon after I had joined the faculty. And I remember hearing it was kind of just keeping my head low you know because some of it is is kind of Kabul. But I you know I do have this this letter that sits in using central administration as a as a. Then I guess the idea maybe was the well that Tom had enough clout with this position that central administration rolled over and said we don't we don't mind after it wasn't it wasn't what I mean. I think the letter was just an excuse looking for a reason because they were worried about the the de facto tenure and a great worry because it was not as if they ever didn't need teachers. I mean you know how many these reviews we've been through where they say that the faculty should have five or ten more people in it. And every time there are fewer. So there's just been there's been a need for. For it to say looking back over 30 or 40 years of it year after year I think everybody and I don't know when you when you were chair what your perspective was when everybody thought well we just need to get through three to help us with this year or the next year. And then we will hire people and and have more regular faculty and won't need temporary people. But never have. It hasn't. But do that change either. I think it changed before I was chair either Dave Hoffman or George Harris that this happened just personally. And again I haven't thought about the dates very much but doing the labs and things you know that was clearly filling in when one the number of sections was unpredictable and the number of graduate students and people would get grants and pull people on and off. And so you know it was it was kind of a win win. They had somebody to play again if needed. And then three enrollment started to go up in the lectures. And for various reasons the number of lectures for the regular faculty seemed to to be decreasing. And particularly the ones who were acceptable to general chemistry. I mean there were a couple. Again I guess I won't name names for the superintendent because people had some disastrous experiences screaming at the students. So. I think it was when Dave Hoffman was chair I sort of remember being at a picnic or something in the summer and saying you know we don't love the slots and the lectures for next year. You can do that. And this guy think I saw that then we both both married and I started doing lecturing and it became then much much more regular job than the time lab and recitation stuff was more like being a graduate student but not picturing notched it up a bit. Was somewhere around maybe 1970 four or five. It was still part time though. I mean I did three sections of chemistry one 40 which was kind of like Camp 50 on the quarter system. It was for free people who hadn't had good chemistry backgrounds either engineering or regular science. And it was a one quarter kind of refresher in principals. And I were having three full sections of that. And in one ninety eight or 10 029 which were you know more than. So that's 700 students total for half time. Temporary assistant temporary instructor. The point was that of a graduate student plus 10 percent. So the pool was pretty heavy. Yeah it was. You know it's considered a half time so it'll be like it'll be a graduate student appointment is half time. So it would be the same as what a graduate student was paid plus 10 percent to lecture seven under students manage to have fifteen teachers give all the exams and all the grades and all. So there were some very heavy loads for very little compensation along the way. Different different chairs made different efforts. I remember gym assignments and while people one time thought we were horrendously underpaid and so submitted to the Dean a request that we be given about a 10 percent raise. And the dean turned it down because other raises that you were only in the range of three percent. And even though this was gonna take us out of the you know a little above the grad student category the dean rejected it. I forget what Dean that even once one of the ones that wasn't here very. When Melanie Glick was provost these years occasionally I would get together or meet or one way or another other people on campus who were in kind of similar positions. And there was this kind of faculty wife you know now referred to as the trailing spouse or whatever. But the the faculty wife stuck in Ames. There were loads of English instructors that were those kinds of positions. And they I think had rules that they wouldn't hire someone at some point in time. They wouldn't hire anybody for more than three years. They could do three years and then they were gone. I remember that a handful of us there a couple of people in language no hotter. And Tanya Tipton. And there were a couple of people in maybe some of the ag departments maybe one in math. And like Martha myself we're kind of long termers at this. And we're doing I think the English comp things were considered more like the t.A lab things. But but doing you know continuing lecturing and being a little more evolved. And so. There were you know they always bring up the AAUP rules but those have as far as I can see no they're they're very weak guidelines. They have no teeth at all especially if economic situations are not good which there always seems to be the case. Yes. Something like what was concerned about people in positions like that. And he said that anyone who has been continually hired in a I don't know if it had to be full time. I'm not sure how he he defined it. But at that time there were this group of maybe 10 or 12 on campus that were kind of fit that description. Anybody in that situation should be considered to have continuous status. And so that's when when the total continuous adjunct happened. And it was defined really like tenure. And it was that will be a continuing appointment unless there is some cause for terminating. So I went from. Part-Time temporary instructor two full time temporary instructor to temporary assistant professor which was the way they could give us the 10 percent more apparently than the grad students got to continuous adjunct assistant professor. Which at least was some job security. And the final thing was I think when George became chair and I don't know exactly what the situation was but he clearly felt like it was a good thing from from his perspective in organic because what Mike and I had by that time done quite a bit of teaching in an organic you the two three one three three one. And we were doing a good enough job that it was not something that they had to worry about every year. Especially with like Tom being in administration George now being the restoration of regular organic faculty away. And so to keep that going he said you know would what could be done to help your situation. And I said a promotion. We did then go through it. And if you recall we went through kind of a process to the promotion and tenure that was around the time that the documents were all rewritten. And so some of them had to have a phrase about continuous. I don't know if it was a different section for continuous adjunct or the added sentence in the paragraphs that were there. But somehow the document accommodated doing this and promoting us to. I think they're continuing continuous continuing continuous pageant associate professors. And we may have been the only ones on campus because of what Glueck did by saying you know the group should continue. This would say it was to say and this kind of hiring should not be done anymore. When Robert out came in actually he got the discussion going again there was a bigger group that met John Pleasants in Biology. There was something in agronomy there's something else. And ensuring there's a bigger group of temporary or temporary assistant professors on campus. And the fourth one the lecture positions were established. Schools had many other places had had something like that for a long time. But we just never had. That's all we had to get into this and wielding continuous Asian bubble blah blah blah. So I mean that was was reasonable I think in a way. And that's what's happening now. I don't know. I don't know if it's the end of the street credits again with. It seems like a relatively stable situation especially since as you say a lot of other schools have the same. Right. I think one concern I know and this is true probably nationally and what was on the faculty at the time actually they were concerned that so much of the teaching would be turned over to lectures. And that's not a good idea because then how do you distinguish from a community college something. And there was supposed to be caps of. And we never figured out if it was student. Enrollment percent for class credit eight percent or what. However someone of these things that administrators use as a measure of whether there are too many students being taught by lecturers that was supposed to be kept. I don't think anybody has probably raised that issue much lately again because of financial reasons. You can teach a whole lot more people a whole lot more cheaply with those positions. So sometimes a whole lot better too. I often feel that that's another couple of hours but it. Then then the final thing. Oh my titles. The final was. That was to be allowed to be Ameridose which means I still have a key to get into places and allegedly can take things to the library. But I know things like that. The time when I was concerned about this when I saw this pretty much kind of a late 70s I suppose early 80s I realized there were first of all there were people that we knew. We had friends at Nebraska who whose wives were you know they would be hired to teach one course for X dollars once every couple years because there were like five of them. There was a large number of faculty at that time at Nebraska wives who were chemists. I knew oh in Illinois I knew people. Wisconsin just about if there was a book. I don't remember the name of it. And the woman's remember the phrase in it. She said every major university chemistry and physics department has its Mrs. Somebody who is there and doing lion's share of work in usually in teaching because they're the wife of so-and-so who is you know and they and they're trapped. They are stuck there or whatever the words are. When I was bothered by it but it didn't look like we were going. I didn't want to go to T-Mac. I didn't want to go there was actually applied for an advising job one time and was offered it and that I really wanted to stay with chemistry. So I went to an ISIS meeting. After several years of not not going and the Women Kemmis committee had an open meeting which I went to and they were going around the room saying you know who are you and what do you do. And I said who I was and what I was doing. And that I had been temporary for whatever 10 year temporary continues. And in the room there was just like this reaction and there must've been 10 other people in the room who had similar stories or worse or you know slightly different. But they said this this is you know we hear this all the time over and over. So I to know some of those people and they invited me to come to the committee meeting and then I got appointed to the committee. But at that time they were doing surveys of women on faculties. There was a sister from Los Angeles who had done them for many years and she was older and retiring. And so I took over doing those surveys and it was one of the things about that. But we're interesting. The stories were interesting because it was so hard to get the information. This was way before you know we had of people this strong computers and so forth. And so you would try to find out from a department how many women faculty they had while they they wouldn't know who to account for example like me. They wouldn't usually count me. And that was with this whole group of kind of war level teaching faculty that nobody ever knew about. If you got the statistics on the regular tenure track faculty they were pretty awful. They were maybe around two percent. I think when I started I have I have a lot of that data in my files. And what I remember in 1984 we would do it every two years when the director of graduate research came out because it was that was the starting point was still very go through DGI name by name and list every identifiably female name. And in the case of a question we maybe call the department sometimes you'd get a reply sometimes not. Sometimes we'd know somebody who knew somebody. So it was being pretty accurate but it was it was tedious to do. And in 84 there were 12 large schools places like Northwestern and who had no women on the faculty. Wow. And we post that in an article in the Wall and Campus newsletter. And Kaylynn who is the editor see any news was very interested in that whole. He still occasionally read an article Gracian that the whole area of women in science and how they were treated. So he picked up that article and and published the table and headlined it The Dirty Dozen. Oh wow. And that got some reaction that you know within not too much time there started to be women in those departments where the shame of it all had any effect. I don't know. But you know like to think that that that. And so those those surveys kept coming out every two years now and in recent years. You know Donna Nelson at all from Oklahoma. She's she's taken over. She's done a lot of the studies. You'll see now they they're they're Fregoli and see any news. And she talks about the Dribbly as meetings and base. There was a congressional committee. It's kind of gotten kind beyond just the committee but the committee called it to the point. I felt very good about that involvement for about ten years doing those who is in the Dirty Dozen. I'll get out. I remember North-Western for sure was one. And I think maybe Colorado. I think. Illinois did not have a warrant for the head. They had one pet sharply. Did you know. I'm sure M.I.T. however didn't know at M.I.T.. I mean it's been for a long time. But she was it. She made it. She. Well that's right. I'm not sure if she was there that way. There is somebody at M.I.T. that service. There's some kind of younger. But but she even if she's the first one to do that I think I thought it was somebody. So obvious. The plan. Joanne what's Stucky study. I think she was maybe there. I think she's older. Yeah. Oh. I mean two is a big number. There were loads of ones. Loads of ones in those. But the Dirty Dozen was kind of an interesting thing. We tried to do surveys for you departments. The percentages weren't much better there but it was very hard to get that data because there wasn't anything really comparable to G.G. There was a book of college chemistry faculties but it was one of these. If people send in the information fine. If they didn't nobody knew. So you know that's I think it's up to something like 14 percent overall of faculties now are women I think. I don't know. I don't know that across 10 before I stopped being involved in that that was for me personally it was a good thing to do. It was something outside of the situation here which was you know didn't involve much respect basically in in funny ways. You know they just were a whole lot of things that we go to faculty members that wouldn't you know we'd just never really real real faculty. It was a strange strange way to be so simple with women. Was just personally. And then during that that time period I think that the committee did have some impact from one thing of of agency started getting concerned being told they should be concerned about numbers of women. And so that meant that people within the AC S. administration and so forth often had to get information or supporting documentation or whatever and they would come to the chemistry for it. So there was you know served as a resource that was helpful. So I stayed involved in that for a number of years. And I still have good friends that I get together with when I used to actually chair the committee from eighty nine to ninety one and then it was at 92 was my term limit kind of thing. My last year on it. But I stayed to sort of stay connected to some of the people that I was at some of the other ECAC committees. I was on the nomination selection committee and I was on there for a long time which was another very interesting insight into who who's willing to to run for some of these offices. Can you expand on that. Right. You know they have a tradition of alternating a president they see as being an academic or from industry and so they choose for. They're not nominees therefore the candidates I guess. And then the council narrows that group of four down to two nominees. Or they choose four nominees who become two candidates maybe four languages. And. The people who are asked to be. Candidates first of all this this council which is about 400 people and I've been the councillor from the section for a long time partly because we have been having trouble having an election the last few years. That's a joke. Joe has been chair and he he needs to get out out of it and we need to find some other people to take over. But anyway that's another issue. The council knows this town council composition is kind of funny because they're big city sections that have a large number of councillors that have been in office for 30 years. And while they said they should they should really make them take a chemistry test to continue to prosecute. For example Dick Zayer didn't make it through the council thing one time. Now you have no really good candidates and the president of the ACA shit is kind of a face to the public. You know they go to do international things. They go to Congress to testify. They make pronouncements when there are big issues. So it should be somebody I think who has really strong scientific credentials and council. Many of them are not aware of who you know who some of these better people are. The thing is it's it's a job where people can only do it at a kind of specific time in their life because apparently it's so time consuming. You either need a sabbatical or you need to have someone who can you know run your group or you need to be at a transition point in your career or something that so the list of you know the committee would come up with ideas and names of people who would make wonderful iciest presidents. And then the person who had to go and ask them would often get down to number thirty six before they'd get someone to get people to agree. And then you have to discard two of them at this council thing. So people who are really really good who have been who haven't made it through the council the next time anybody else. And I don't need that. I don't need that kind of thing. So it was interesting to see it from that perspective that they've they've been you see us presidents I think the people who have risen to the occasion and you know as with I think that happened with department chairs. In fact I think often and I'm sure you very aware that situations that happened during your term as chair you could never have anticipated when it was suggested that you would be too. I mean just distance. So you hope that people do. Well they always all this experience has been a good one for me in the sense of feeling a little bit more like I was I was a professional and not just a second class citizen. I mean along the way however enough you know every now and then somebody would say a kind word which is that was good. That's coming away. I just decided what I was doing. I think I was either appreciated or compensated appropriately for it. What I was doing. It wasn't a bad life. And so I just kind of became you know there was no point fighting it. That's kind of my thing. Why do you if you know you do something about it or if you can't you you just kind of accept it and make the best of it then you know we had started getting more and more involved when certainly when when Tom Greenbay came there was a change in the attitude I think to teaching it a little bit. This is also happening externally. I mean that's certainly you know I think it's happened nationally and locally with the Center for Teaching. I was involved with one that was getting started the program for Women in Science. I was part of the ad hoc committee that started that. I there's a lot of things that were the timing was was good to be involved in. Those were all all you know sort of personally rewarding. Tony was not interested in a lot of the details having to do with the teaching. And so he kind of turned more and more stuff over to me and Martha. And then we were he wouldn't he wouldn't be down in the general chemistry office a whole lot if he could help it. So weeks you know there's a of walk in traffic there for various things. We started dealing with more and more that we became advisors. We became part of the undergraduate committee. We know that in as these things happen there was a lot more to the job than just just going to class which was good. One was. So I just kind of you know I just made peace with it this is an end and felt. Very much free to speak my mind about things. So what's the worst. I haven't read from this crummy job which was is free you know to not feel like you have to watch what you're saying or what you're doing. I think in the early years I did because I wasn't sure you know my position was and if something in the end I've always been able to separate pretty well completely. I get involved in you know occasionally would kind of event one way or another is put off a little bit but not not interfere. So I never felt that a thing I might say might hurt him or vice versa that that I had and I'm not sure when that happened if that was just some some part of entering middle age or or what. But I. And maybe having some of these external things too. I was on several A.F. review panels. One thing you got to know through people through raciest partly. And then one thing leads to another. So probably the most the toughest one was that I was the chair of the National Visiting Committee for why do you carry around and serve your dinner. You're being very rude here. You're not keeping with certain topics in regard to the activities the big initiative to improve teaching. Early 90s ninety four ninety five and they announced that there would be five major grants given for. Consortia that would propose ways that would drastically change and improve the teaching of chemistry. So the five projects that were funded. Had they had kind of catchy names they would. And they sort of had different things they were known for. That's the three major ones that came out of it. One of those was they're still doing a lot of workshop chemistry. That was workshop physics to some of this mimicked what what had happened in physics with Eric Measure. Do you know anything about him. He's at Harvard. He did things in teaching physics. He did very interesting interviews with like Harvard grads asking them simple questions about how the sun and the moon interact. And found that an interesting thing to watch. But he said know people know they can. They know the equations. They are the theory but they don't know simple things that go on. And this reflects the kind of education we're doing. This this move to change chemistry. Chemistry is a peer peer led break things down into small groups and have students that have had the course help teaching. And then there was one. And of course computers were just beginning to be useful. One of them had a lot to do with modules that that would have topics of practical importance. The modules would lend themselves to having certain computer exercises and units that would go with it. And that was based primarily in Berkeley which consortium had to have a major university. Some smaller four year schools some technical or vocational schools and hopefully some teacher training programs and community colleges. So they were you know they were wanting to change things at all levels. The was called how I remember the name. It was audible. Chapman's project was based at UCLA. Go ahead now. There's this this goes way back and we're not going to be linear now with our juvenile or gentlemen. I didn't know what I heard about it many times over there. Well when I first came in the first fall I came to graduate school. I was I turned 21 when I got here because I was young going to graduate from college graduate. And he was I think twenty. And it was like his second year on the faculty. And he was. Very sure of himself and very simple adjectives don't. I guess do it justice. But anyway he would he was the the rising the rising star. Is it in research. He was always an early adapter. He was using like to see and Yuva before everybody was. He was. He got into an MRI. He did the tech with Vince Calder did this matrix. I saw that isolation of like Benzion and Psychology Today really hot molecules. And so he was a real hot shot. And things were going on. He had a huge group. He was basically a photo chemist. But all of these other techniques had to do with it. And he was in charge of the organic teaching labs and in the teachers. He was hired as an instructor then. So he was I think an instructor that first year even though he got the pure chemistry award within about two or three years. Charlie Katz was the chair of the department at that time. And I'm sure you've heard Charlie gets to his office on the second floor. Right. Clean room is that which were to Glenn's office before that. That was the main office. And Charlie Getz was in there because he smoked a cigar that always dropped the ashes and he had to be able to catch them. And the son who was named Roger I believe who was a chemistry major Charlie's son probably didn't want to be a chemistry major. But Charlie was a very strong personality. I think I think the son actually had I think he was very engaged in playing the organ at his church. And they were back in the Lutheran church where he was a chemistry major. So and the curriculum at the time was a course for chemistry majors. That was was an advanced organic lab. It was kind of a project based research project. And they had a series of six or seven problems that were actually sort of proposed to do it kind of out of faculty members research things. They were they were you know they were not this was not textbook stuff at all. So teaching that lab was a little bit funny because it was you know open the. Direction to see you too is more being a consultant to these students who were doing it. There was a lot of interaction with the teachers and Roger Getz was going to be in that lab. And this was the first the first semester I was here. I was fortunate enough. They all told me that I was allowed to teach one organic lab but that was only half a load. So I also taught. Freshmen. The first my first Quiring graduate school I taught two or three sections of stations in general Cam. And six hours of organic lab which was all that was added on Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. Thirty three to six and seven. Nine to 12 because that's when they could fit it in. In the spring. They're going to have this project based lab. And Chapman was concerned because Roger Getz was in the lab and he was worried that if he put the wrong t.A in and Roger didn't like it or Roger had trouble that that would go to the guts and that that was going on. So he called me in and he said he thought that I would would be the appropriate person to be in that lab because he thought I would not it or not sure. So I. I did. And there were actually a few other Melvin Carruthers who's gotten an alumni award is in Colorado. He was in that lab. There were there were there were some very good majors in those classes those day. From then on a title only the next year that I was here only organic labs. And. And Orville was the supervisor. He also I I sat in on I learned a tremendous amount of organic chemistry in those first couple of years. The basic three quarter sequence were taught by Glen Tipu who was here then and Ernie wankers who is here. I don't know if those are names that I don't know if you know much about them personally but they belong to Colorado. He's still still alive and did very well at the University of Colorado. And Ernie Winker it was natural products chemist. And he was like I think to race and then spent most the rest of his career in Indiana but may have gone to to San Diego to go to San Diego. So this you know the story then was that organic. I would say it was a great place to to come in and learn to be an organic chemistry be hired away because in that few years Dipu and Winker and then John Clardy later and later and you know were hideaway presumably to bigger and better things. But anyway that first sequence of courses was Russell Dipu and Wincott and then chairman taught the undergraduate majors. And so I sat in on his classes too because I graded forum and and to learn enough to get through this. This lab you know I was kind of chemistry was going through a big change in teaching. Then when I got the course that I took and actually Walt and I used the same textbook at very different places. It was much more a catalog of reactions. In 19 I think was 1959 Morrison and Boyd the textbook. And then Kremen Hammond came out and they took the mechanistic approach to organic chemistry and chairman used Kram and Hammond that that didn't catch on the way Morrison and Boy did because it was Morris and Boyd. I don't know. I used the words are great and Morris Nymboida the word explanations of things are very good. What happened was more cryptic and more more equation based and so forth. More higher level chemistry majors. That was OK. But it was just a magnificent lecture. You know his Ford work and his his speech and all of that he was just great in the wrong way. So we're Russell Dipu and Wincott was another one who with you know natural products or are often complex structures just driving beautifully. All the bonds were even and everything. And so I really I really came to enjoy the of those classes during those years with those people. But one was the junior member and so he taught the undergraduates and and I taught labs for him. And then when they were married they had this engagement party. And the rest was in the Chapmans. We're pretty close. Martha was in a terrible car accident back during those years was when I was gone. And Faye Chapman really kind of came in and took care of kids and all that. And they lived close together. And she called him Chappie or Orville Giammetti. Chappie showed us a Virginia accent. They always kind of was his eye on bigger and better things. He I mean that's I think his concern about what the chair would think about. Who. Who is teaching his son was little bit of that. Not that he I think had anything much to fear for him although they were certainly very different personalities. He was a voice that got concerned you know having a reputation and all that was was important to him. And he did he did better and better and got the pure chemistry award. And he was promoted rapidly and other places started looking at him and eventually UCLA. You went out there to serve as a visiting professor. And that was kind of the way to do it actually. Dipu went to Colorado as a visiting professor and then never came back. And what effectively got to Pugh's position chairman was never really comfortable socially like with students to the extent that the rest of the faculty were. He was just a little bit of a different personality. But I said we always got along very well and pretty pretty friendly with them. So here we are. So he went to UCLA took off with another woman. Fay went out there for a while but it didn't last. So they were divorced and he married Susie who he was remained married to until he died. And I think he did well at UCLA. I mean they seem to be pleased to have him but he got very interested in education and education theory and so forth. And he actually became like an associate dean in their education college. And some from research had fewer and fewer. When we did we didn't see a whole lot of him in that period. But between say 75 and 90 he he education became more and more something that he was concerned with. He had he was a global thinker and he always had grandiose ideas. So he had various connections with industry. He used to teach courses about writing. He always had a really remote concern about writing and not just style but punctuation and spelling and things being correct. And it was one of the things with grading for him. And I learned I learned that his lectures were so good I think because he was a kind of a words person too. He he he got more interested in education and various initiatives. And he would have companies that would sponsor things that he would try. And any young person that worked with them named Arlene Russell. I don't know if you've ever met Arlene. But she she was a lecturer at UCLA. I think Price two is the California system has this separate track called class. So he's what she was with security of employment. Which is again like the get sort of defined the same way as tenured. But it's a parallel track to a tenured faculty. And so they had those positions for a long long time. And she has been one. And they get promoted. They were paid well. And it is a pretty pretty good deal. I mean did the detailed stuff and what was the global thinker. And they had various pay. She was an early adopter. And so when when computers started being used more he had programs that would do some of these things. So he and Darlene and some other people that they got together from other places on these big NSF grants and the the thing in their proposal besides what everybody it was going to do to make teaching wonderful is something called S.P. PAS. Here it is. It's what's called an. It's peer reviewed. Computer based assignments. So again there are modules that students will do on a computer and other students would look at what they would write you know explanations for things and other students would look at these explanations and check. This was the peer review aspect of it. It would be you know more than one iteration and you go through and then there'd be ways of grading it. And anyway it just became enamored of this whole CPR thing. So when they got the grant one of the requirements was that there'd be a visiting committee for each project of about 15 people who would come in. And here these were. Three or five year grant. They were big and their multimillion dollar grant. Three years for sure and maybe the extensions took them out five. So the visiting committees were supposed to do. Listen to what they were doing. Kind of take a progress report make suggestions and let NSF know how it was going. And for some reason I don't know. I think he had somebody else in mind who said no and was for time asked me to be chair of the visiting committee. It was horrible to choose to post to NSF. I see. And so he he came up with the list. Now there was there had to be some people from the other projects on it. And they were you know there are some constraints. But he agreed. I mean it seemed it seemed to the point where he had finished with the kind of stuff. And that was I think one of the reason he thought that I would be acceptable. You know teaching some of the teaching things here we had had the our chemistry network and had gotten involved a little bit nationally in some of the reports on that. And so anyway I agreed to do it. It was a really really difficult job because it was right there with the committee was was great for some of the people at the beginning. Dallas was on it. There was an executive from Oakland who is on it. There was a guy who was head of the Hughes Foundation at the time Joe something or other. And then there were people from the other. There was somebody from the project based in Wisconsin. Some of them project based at Berkel. Just wanted to do get the CPR thing to the world. Police have wanted evidence that this was going to help train teachers better that this was going to help freshmen learn metrics they they wanted. Yes. Yes. And they wanted evaluation. And that's the other thing. I mean I think the reason I talk about my my view of the education establishment in and evaluate get you get into these education grants and evaluate each other. It was just just. But it is hard to evaluate an education program because it's really years down the road that you would probably see anything. And of course these grants. I saw a lifetime on that. And from meeting to meeting they wanted to see somebody had done something to. If you take a you know as a class of 20 and you don't have a control group and it did. It was just just awful. Oh. Just didn't want to hear. And we would we would get together and we would spend these would be two day meetings in Los Angeles and we would sit we would hear from everybody who was involved in the project. And then we would spend hours make trying to come to some consensus about what we thought about it. And then everybody in the committee would send me their thoughts afterwards and I would have to put it together as a report Dennis. And it would always be that you know they're they're not doing all these things they said in the hope that they would do with the technicals with the community college or with I mean they would have they would have a couple of community college teachers who were really gung ho and we're doing it. And they would have somebody who came in for some teacher training program who had a handful of people who were doing it. But this was posted this was the it was called the Initiative for Systemic Change in Teaching Chemistry. And it ended up kind of feeling like I was in the middle the whole time between all I wanted was OK. Give me the money and let me go and do my thing. The staff wanted was this list of. This is what they're doing for the community colleges and this is what they're doing for the teacher training programs. And this is how this part is working. This is how that part is working. And it never got there. And so it was a very kind of uncomfortable time. What happened. It was I think they ran out. They they ended up they program didn't give more of those systemic grants. Eventually they did was was taken out of the results from them and gave dissemination grants for the workshop projects for example have continued. They've you know in some of the modules stuff that was developed has been published. And so pieces of it have continued now. Now the big thing is Pogo have you heard about puggle process oriented guided inquiry learning. And some of the people that have been that were involved in some of these bigger grants are also involved in Pogo. That's another problem with the the chemical education. People are kind of highly inbred. And so even though the projects change the people tend to stay the same and they go the way the project is going. And that that's maybe a bit of a. Negative view. But that's some of what I saw as a consequence. I would see you all at these meetings which were I guess twice a year for three years for sure. And then a couple of extensions and. I didn't know he wasn't fully happy with the reports and I know I found some of them painful to do and I know NSF wasn't thrilled with what was happening. So I just I feel like I was in the middle and I didn't need them. It was it was kind of a stretch. I mean I think maybe that's why I did it. It was. I'm sure it's give me a lot of people a lot of what I learned about you know I did learn a lot about teaching what was going on in some of these areas of education and it probably wouldn't be bad. But thing was your were your ties was horrible. And you kind of you respect for him. Those are certainly some of that. There was some of that. I don't I don't know how it would have played out if I hadn't if I hadn't known him otherwise I wouldn't have chosen to do it. It wasn't too long after that that he died. We sort of know and I sort of never really spent time with him after that. So that was unfortunate. And he I think probably still at the end felt like the CPR was a good thing and I think it's it's used a little bit in some places that it wasn't limited to chemistry. It could be used in other fields. And you know the. Technique so. I've always a little bit bad that his early bright and shining star sort of sputtered out a little bit at the end on this. This you know I don't know if he really thought he was going to revolutionize education in some way. And and that that's just too much to take on. You can really do that. So that was a bit of an a. It was early faculty Kingsbury didn't get tenure and went to Nebraska. Been there has retired. But we've seen similarly him occasionally. Tom Kinsel. Came at the same time. What did. They were the two working was the roommate. Roy was the one that had been a postdoc but became the NMR specialist who was from from Britain time got his degree at University of Illinois with Ken Rhinehart. And he was a mass spec person and the organic mass spec at the time you know where Walt's offices and the other one where yen has been and that's where we're at where Tom Kinsel was. So they had this adjoining office. They came the same year essentially the same age. The best book was in the room. Down the hall. On the corner there to Alev and their groups were we're kind of crossing Nikkie right around the corner there. So the wing was sort of Trotzky and Kinsel students and they two officers together. So we were pretty close friends. And Tom was a likable kind of green good natured you know. Friendly guy. And he was one of our Oura. Game playing group on Friday night's. And he was married to either with a secretary in physics for many years. I don't know if you would. She still lives in AINs. I don't know. We had been married when he was in graduate school there from small town in Illinois and he went to an Ohio Bowling Green and then went to graduate school in Illinois. So they must be married you know. Right. When he went there and. They used to do up the game night. They they had volleyball teams the two worlds group in Times group would have they do these secret practices so that they would you know gang up on each other to ball game. And the there was a lot of socializing. There were people there. Well there were all kinds of stories about parties and wild things that happened. And there was a student of champions. I think that rode motorcycles department that well and wrote King Live and was on it. I don't know if you ever have occasion to drive down. So you know it makes the turn. You go to that field. It looks like a motel a U. Shaped one. It's actually the second class building now. I think there was one more than one dude in the corner apartment there and that was one of the few kind of apartment buildings in town. But after one while Friday night at the bars this Pete who had a motorcycle came over and rode his motorcycle around and up and onto the second floor balconies and all around you know at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning or something. And Carmen Reinhart who is Tom some major federal I came through one time on his way. They were going mountain climbing but they all had a party the night before and they ended up practicing mountain climbing on the drains out of the building or something. I mean there was no love for it. So besides being a very you know neither of them had tenure. So they were they were working a lot working many nights and weekends. And there'd be these these bursts of recreational activity in between them. They're fairly fairly large groups. Both had some good students. Know what's for three students. Terrific. Mike Doyle young Darrell Wells they were all outstanding. We were when we were married we were still pretty close to. Tom was the best man in our wedding. And that's something seemed to be going on with Tom. Things weren't quite getting done. You know I wasn't very aware of what the reviews were. He would have been in is you know fourth fifth year seemed like things weren't going really well. He seemed to be kind of preoccupied sometimes not around at times when you'd expect once or twice even called wondering if we'd seen him. And by that time they had two little children and the older one was had some behavior problems didn't seem to be to be an easy child. And so things were a little anyway just which seemed like something was going wrong with Tom and come to find out. I'm not sure how I would initially surfaced anyway. I remember he came over one night to talk to well. And I went I went upstairs. I didn't stay calm to find out. He had been having an affair with a barmaid who was a divorcee with six children. And had you know been just getting out of a bad marriage or some bad situation. And so he was not having a whether it's sort of helping her with all these issues. Well his you know his wife and his two little kids and his research group were all just couldn't couldn't juggle all that. And so it was just it was just a shock. I think he didn't get to. He did not get tenure. He was Bowling Green his original school. And he still there and still married to. And the wife the one with the six kids divorce divorced even married. Everyone needs two names. I mean there's like you know there were 10. There's a movie The Three Faces of Eve which was a woman with multiple personalities. And he was this Evelin and. It was a big blow and then then it was kind of hard because he was so who's a friend. Meanwhile can close all that time like a tenure. He didn't. And he moved on. I'm not sure Phil Warner was probably hired as his replacement was then in that office. Next. I knew they feel I was here when I came. Yeah so that would have been. Was anyone in between that. There were there was Charlie Scania. Who is here for a short time and was very interesting because he seemed like a great teacher and a great lecturer and everybody was excited about him being a teacher and so he was assigned to teach three thirty one. And I don't remember change from careers to semesters in nineteen eighty one I think. I'm not sure which he was on at any rate. He was supposed to teach three thirty one and it seemed to be going well. All the feedback was positive and everybody thought that was great. And whoever was supposed to teach three thirty to get in there and said OK. Now you've you've done the first chapters. We'll start with Chapter twelve. Turns out they'd only done the first six chapters or some lower number. And it was very awkward for. I don't remember the exact numbers of the difference but the upshot was that he had been very popular because he hadn't done nearly as much as most people did during that term. So he didn't stay very long. I don't know that he was high on the tenure track or if he was maybe. The upshot was he was still hiring maybe as instructors and he just kept. There were a few other people. In the meantime Jan Clardy came in in 60. Eight I believe. Sixty nine because his son and our son are the same age. And they became very good friends. And they lived. And the kids then stayed for six years or seven because they they left one. When the boys were in first grade. And that was very hard and I said because they had been been really close and their house was closer to school. So and they're walking home they would always stop it stop it Clerides and play there. But he left for Cornell and. That would have been mid 70s as you said. Yes he big he was actually chair of the department at Cornell for a while. And then in the last few years he's moved to Harvard in the. You know he did does a lot of identifying compounds from aquatic or from oceanic organisms. And he's. He's I think quite still active in more in the Harvard Medical School than in the chemistry department although they call it biological chemistry now. But I think he's at the medical school and he's been it's I think it's primarily research may maybe a center institute or something. So he did very well. So all those all those people that were hired away I think. What I know did very well and I spoke to the extent we've ever run into them again you know highly of their experiences that I would state in the time that they they had. It was just a good place to be from. What have I gotten from the chairman thing. We can something kind of complex relationship with Glenn because he was a major professor and he and what we're colleagues. And then Martha and I you know he was my maid. She was my major pressies Ricky Ponting first Nuer. And then we became colleagues and friends. And so there's this kind of intertwining of turnout and the result. And Glenn went for coffee every morning at 10 o'clock until Glenn died. Why. He would go we'll go by his office. They were over the hub because Glenn was a smoker. Go and have coffee. And I know what happened in the past week. And then they were released after Kitto left. I think that they they became closer and of course they were terminally physical organic chemists. And so they they could talk. Which. Which I think they did. This was an amazing person. And I see. We would have said that you know the group was had two subdivisions divisions and we would have seminars. And soon would say something about a compound and he'd go Yeah. You know you might check J.C. s in 1946. I think it was in November that somebody made he just an incredible fountain of knowledge about about things. So you know connections and saw how something might relate to something else. And. Very really kind of inspiring. But a man of few words you didn't you had to go and talk to him and he. You know he he would make a comment or two and say volumes. That's a good. Which group was was good to be in. And because you know people had different personalities and different ways of interacting. And so you learned a lot from each other and from their ways of doing things. He had the business of working long hours you know just so ingrained. We had some gas chromatographs when he'd worked. I think what am I going to work for. Paul Brown. He worked for Brown at Purdue and he apparently worked very independently of his own equipment is trained as a chemical engineer. And he was always very good with his hands and all of that. So he when he first came built some gas chromatographs for the group to use and there was a portable recorder that could plug into any of them. So one time there were three or four of us who were having trouble getting enough time with the recorder. And they had plenty of financial support at the time as far as any of us could tell. You know he had a lot of post-tax use buying equipment of all this. So we thought well we we should just suggest that he buy another recorder. And so we went to a three of us went to talk to him and said you know I think it'd be good to have another recorder in the G.C. room. And he said. Forget the exact pricing but it came down to well who's using it all 24 hours of the day just all the time. So you know 24 hours for three of you ought to be plenty of time. And so we didn't we didn't get another record. Then that was the expectation. If you had to work around the clock then you equipment I'll be there. And you felt like you really had in fact his reputation nationally was maybe better than it was you know in this country. But he had a lot of co-workers and colleagues around the country a lot of postdocs who came from various places and went back and then became good connections. And he liked them liked doing all of that and. I think not choosing to go to physical chemistry was probably a good good thing although the Duke was physical chemist. Is that a name. You know. It was interesting. He he did kinetics usernames lab person. And he and Glenn were very close friends. I don't know if they would have been here longer because Gwen was only here a couple of years before I started. I think he really came in fifty seven or eight and I started at 60. But the friend was just purely to play cards and the people in Glen's group had had an active bridge punch. I think he played with it and he smoked which was not that unusual. And people smoked in the labs and it was you know it was really a different time. But he would come wandering around and and probably go to coffee with Glen in those two years when he wandered into the lab and I saw him in the hallway walked by and he walked by again and he looked and he saw me and he came and he sat down and said so I called problem. I think maybe you could help me with it. I couldn't imagine what kind of person I could help a physical chemistry professor with. But he said I had the student in my group and he said he I think he's I think he's I think he's lonesome. And I think it'd be nice if he could meet a girl. And he said I said I you did you know anybody maybe that would be interested. So I think I had him in a life that I should try to be helpful. So there was a girl who was a chemistry major who I thought well maybe she'd be willing. And I think they went on one or two dates. I'm not sure anything that came out of it but it was sort of funny that that was he was concerned and that that's what he thought the solution was and that he was kind of really shy about asking me. He was known as the graduate student friend. Everybody wanted him on their committee because he can use. He was a funny guy. Maybe he moved to Texas A\u0026M. I think Larry Botel he left to go to Michigan. So the physical chemistry did the same thing as the organic chemist. I guess all of the movement away. Wow. And Bob Hanson. He was he was the next chair after cats. I think it's was chair when I started and through that time when I came back and then I don't know what year. Hands down to the to the room and go around the pictures because if just been on the mall in fact Hickson was still alive and two years anyway. Anyway Hanson I had for a thermo class. Amazing. And. Chris Harvey deal. Was still quite active then. My roommate the year before I was married and my roommate worked for Harbi. And. Here. Didn't. Didn't go on terribly well. Most of the rest of the faculty. He had very I mean he was he was polite. I shouldn't say he didn't get along very well. He was just a personality who's very kind of curt. And he was just a little bit different. And there were a couple of other analytical people that. Came or went in that time deal and Fritze were the ones that I knew best. Fritz was on my committee. And Dave Metzler took a biochem course from Dave. Took one from Sam Aronoff in biochemistry biochemistry. Became apparent in the year before I came. 1960 was the first year of the biochem department Dextra French started at. Oh. The impressive and I said go back to the beginning one of the reasons I came was that the statement seemed attractive. The organic group really benefited from Ames lab at the time because Ames lab had such support that almost no departmental funds had to go for anything that was used by a physical or an organic or some of the analytical chemists. And so everything I mean glassware and chemicals you just didn't even look at the prices just ordered them. People people you know every student had a huge supply of of things like that because the stockroom was just open and free because that was seven or one or four or three. And the graduate students in the Ames areas had salaries in the summer and they had people to wash the dishes. That was just all kinds of perks. If you were if they had glassware they'd put a bucket in some of your would come and get it and wash it for them. Wow. So there were there were these big advantages to being in Ames. Always compensate for that I guess. There was a very free and open support for almost anything by the organic chemist. We just never never really thought much about except for something like playing a recorder you know at the cost of chemicals or specked or anything like that. We're just not aware of in any way because if you just sign your name that was it. It was a different time. How are we doing on the questions. I don't think we're paying very far. If you want a company or you know I in some ways they don't apply to me quite. So I wasn't hired that way. The expectations from the job were involved with time was that I became more firmly entrenched. And then all those other things of course is what my favorite. I certainly still like organic a lot better than general chemistry I think. I think General it's one of the reasons I got involved in that NBC was because I just think general chemistry is is the thing nobody ever addresses is the content. There's just too much stuff in these books. Yet your medal thing that you had. Lewinsky and Mastodon's Lewinsky was the engineering book here many many years ago. And it's still a copy of it down on the shelves down there. And compared to the just they just keep jamming more and more of what is in the chemistry text is what I had in physical chemistry. Electrochemistry. And those are the basic things. So there's that has certainly changed. The social interactions certainly have changed. There I think there was a lot more socialist. The other was a chemistry wives chemistry circle. And just before my time when Apple spitting was was still around. She apparently was the queen bee. And people were sort of required to come in really. And they are sitting in. Wow. In the presence of Apple and have tea and all that. I mean I never made it to. Right. That used to pass the the. What is it called president or chair. But whatever the organ organizers of the chemistry circle to the next younger faculty wife and one I think Susan France and then I sort of killed it because we just were too much into this sitting at the feet of another spending. Which is why I don't have any regrets about that part. But it was a way to have social interactions that the the you know members of the department just didn't didn't much carry on. And so I think that sort of to be what achievements made me most proud. Well in the end you know looking back at the students I mean you know there are students that went to medical school or went to graduate school or like a chemistry class or something. And and that's that's good. And that's tough for the women campsite. It certainly felt good about. I enjoyed most. Which would be good just being in the classroom. That's still still true. The department changed greatly and a change that was going to change it was bad. I think the change that was bad was closing the door. It's this business of people not interacting and not knowing what's going on in other groups. And you know we really knew. I mean I knew I knew that the results that the people in Chapman's group got that day because I was over there the coffee pot while they were doing something. I really really. That's why now this I know as beautiful as I call is it takes one group and puts them even further away. And there's a group over here and there's a group of the physical separations and which is good for doing your work. But it really sort of squelches the the social aspects. Many changes there have been changes for the good for sure. At all levels there's more accountability and I don't think people can get away with being primadonnas to the extent they once did. You mean. You may not take in a different way. Maybe in a different way. You know certainly over the years when I see some of these names and think about some of these incidents that the egos I just kind of funny. There's an awful lot of of you know when you when you're in a situation where you have to pitch your stuff you know the writing proposals and then they're giving talks and all that. And you have to convince people that you're great. It's hard to separate your work being great from you being great. And I think people get caught up in it anyway. Other stories. Well I've told a lot of stories and then probably others that will come to me at some strange time. But many stories from your teaching here to do classroom stories. No no no no. That was remarkable. I really am. There's a lot of continuity in in especially in organic and teaching. There was a lot. There was always and it's something I think has disappeared in the last few years unfortunately. But the one thing the division used to get together much more regularly. This Friday new meetings. But people people would agree on teaching the same things and the same levels and giving the grades roughly in the same proportions and all that. And then then at some point some of the younger people just felt like that was impinging on their academic freedom or something. But I think a lot gets lost. Then there's this. You can have standards and still have some individuality. But you know there were certainly individual students that. From back in those early years one and this relates to Chapman and a little bit as well as to named Bob Stevens who is in those first couple of years I was here as a chemistry major and his lab reports you could have published on know and he voice finished early. He committed to the experiment going always finished just incredibly bright guy. And he I think he might have gone on to work with Winker. I can't remember. But he was hired in UCLA in the end. And a couple of years after he was there he died of a heart attack. He was. He was but he came back one summer was here as a visiting professor. He had a drinking problem which was unfortunate as did Bill Wildman. I mentioned you know I don't know if you've ever heard about that was an unfortunate thing because. Both classic alcoholic and did he come into your lab early in the day smell alcohol on his breath and he. He had come while I was gone. So it came maybe in 64 probably to replace one he had been I think at NIH and. Progressively worse. And he died in the late 70s. He you know Roof Wellman Swanson was one of the twins. That was she was his wife. She was Ruth Wildman. They had separated not long before he died. I mean I think probably and certainly related to the whole drinking thing. He was living alone when he died. And then she married the student. Everybody knew that he had a drinking problem. And students like he would leave things on his desk like confidential things or great things. And students would go in and look at them. And he was it was very stable. Very very nice man. But it was a very unfortunate situation. And. Well Shirley thank you very much for your time. Let's get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1271/collection_resources/35389/file/104424#t=0.0,6975.26857"}]}]}]}