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died.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112098#t=2773.94,2775.81"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112098/transcript/25141/annotation/925","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we're losing the war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112098#t=2775.81,2776.92"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112098/transcript/25141/annotation/926","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is that the way to 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process","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112098#t=2794.88,2799.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112098/transcript/25141/annotation/933","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that arise from the human being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112098#t=2800.46,2802.95"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112098/transcript/25141/annotation/934","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What is the triggering 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If anyone is interested in getting some information on the Humane Society. we have a lot of members that are here that are more than willing to talk their heads off to you about our group. We also have a sign up list down at the desk down there. If you want to sign up, we can get you some information on our group and maybe get you a little bit involved. Tonight's featured speaker is Donald Barnes. He's the director of the National Anti-Vivisection Society. He was formerly a research psychologist with the U.S. Air Force. He trained monkeys to fly the primate equilibrium platform and then he observed their post-irradiation behavior. Barnes was fired when he objected to the continual senseless sacrifice of these animals. And since that time, he has become one of the national leaders in the rapidly growing movement against the use of non-human animals in research. The movie Project X, we've all seen it. Matthew Broderick, some chimpanzees, a real bad ending. That movie was based off the research that Donald Barnes has done. He was the script consultant for the movie, not on the plot if you disagree with the movie was boring or something, he had nothing to do with that. He was just there to let them know how the researchers actually worked. And that film was pretty true to fact. So instead of rambling on, I would like to introduce Donald Barnes.\r\n\r\n- Thanks, Paul. Gee, what a turnout, I'm really impressed. I hope you people aren't terribly disappointed. Actually, I'm impressed for more reasons than you might know. Most universities now don't get very good turnouts. Like find that old phrase about and the university being more mature. So had a few quotes here tonight and that I can speak to you. I hope in a somewhat informal and realistic and heartfelt fashion. And try to explain with you why I'm one of those radical antivivisectionists. I noticed when Paul came up here just a little note of humor, by going into the phone I thought, \"gee, he must not be one of us because there's not a lot of humor in the movement that I come from.\" It's a very serious business. And sometimes it gets so serious that my daughter says to me, \"I like your friend's dad. But they're boring. All they wanna talk about is animal lives.\" And that's the truth. That's a new trick I just learned. Never mind that it's in there before, I had something to drink of it. This is about the 3rd or 4th time I've been talking today and I had got a little dried up. Healthy trick. Okay, something very short film up to it's 14 minutes, but I'm not going to let you watch all of it, because the last part of it is just really boring. So we're going to watch the first about 10 minutes, and then I'll speak with you about it. But it's not a film where I put together. I didn't bring it in here to grouch you up. It is a film where. It was put together by my opponents. The National Association for Biomedical Research, there the people who arranged the professional staff to with me in media appearances or before universities, and there the people who lobby their congress people and their senators for the use of non-human animals in research. So I watched with their film just to give you a feel of what they're saying about us and then I'll correct a few of the comments that they make about what this movement is. But I want you to know that this is a legitimate movement, and it's not, a whole bunch of little old ladies in shoes. I said that when I was a few years ago I got attacked for being ageist. Yeah it's really hard being sexist and chauvinistic and narcissistic. Never thought about being ageist and so I try not to use that word except because a lot of the little old ladies in with people felt to sue me with their environment talk the rest of this great night thing. So Paul here am I turning on the film and seeing if it works. beyond that.\r\n\r\n- But eventually many. Why don't we scientifically if I think about it. But it takes a lot of effort to develop\r\n\r\n- This is a non-human animals and medical research that is retarding the progress of medical science.\r\n\r\n- This dogs have been induced with ulcers. Ordinarily a connected with stress. Their vocal chords have been cut. A common procedure to prevent barking and whining.\r\n\r\n- I'm against the law I'm a total. They even have us believe that they're trying to improve our way of life not true. That's why they're experimenting on living animals.\r\n\r\n- Lives are from the skin of this piglets. Some and the just a group to study healing. Supposedly a pig's skin resembles ours but critics say that skin structure is not identical between any two species. This is what the so-called animal ranks groups are saying about biomedical research. And the media has painted a pretty grim picture of how far these people will go in demonstrating their opposition to scientific investigation involving laboratory animals. Here in New York city thousands rally in opposition to animal research. The story of their protests appeared on local and national television. At New York University Medical Center, demonstrators blocked entrances. Police were called in to make arrest. In San Francisco another city more police, more media, more attention to the cause ten arrests but the biggest was Berkeley.\r\n\r\n- About 50 demonstrators matched loudly across the Berkeley Campus today. They tried to get into the lab of the psychology department but the doors were locked.\r\n\r\n- Why are being locked out of laboratory.\r\n\r\n- A few managed to get in through another entrance and let the others in.\r\n\r\n- But demonstrations are only a small part of the growing anti-research.\r\n\r\n- We're looking into the main room area off which there are a number of smaller rooms.\r\n\r\n- These pictures were taken after a massive break in and destroy operation. They show how determined extremists have become. What the pictures can't describe is the incafuel organic. The sense of vulnerability among laboratory workers. The research time going to a waste. The loss of precious scientific knowledge.\r\n\r\n- In intensity. Th excuses for a has just one aim . Determining all research with animals. Which entirely is not with the welfare of laboratory animals except for the public domain. They are on eliminating any scientific research animals no matter how the reason for the research. This is serious business with implication for everyone in the research community. The is well funded and very well organized. The extremists have a plan and they know how to execute it. The plan is first to discredit all the work. Then to do away with the research at. Animal rights activists have already had some success. Long against the use of animals in some states, have delayed project is cardiovascular, neuroscience and research. Where there have been reports that some research have been entirely. This change has implications not only for science but for the society. The future health and wellbeing of people. Organized opposition to animal research is a. But contemporary American activists are significantly different from the historical.\r\n\r\n- Antivivisectionism has always been rooted in the fear of the change represented by science. In a rows in Victorian England the same era that produced such works is Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. In the U.S. and recently such sentiment wants for the most part channeled into to improve animal welfare. This issue of Life Magazine called public attention to the lack of protection for animals in. The Life article detailed the bits of at the hands of animal viewers. Many of whom sold their dogs to laboratories. Six months later on August 23rd 1966, congress past the animal welfare act. A law that has been broadened and toughened by three subsequent amendments. In the late 1970s however the focus of concern for animals changed dramatically from animal welfare to animal rights. The publication of the book \"Animal Liberation\" by Peter Singer introduced a new term speciesism. It also watched what has come to be known as the animal rights movement. A coalition of several hundred different groups. Many led by skilled propagandists.\r\n\r\n- Hundreds of millions of animals have been sacrificed on this cross of cancer.\r\n\r\n- Cleveland Amory heads the Fund for Animals. He is among the many activists who argue that technology, such as tissue culture and computer modeling have made animal research completely unnecessary. Other groups go still further in there attempt to demonstrate how animal research is no more than a cruel and useless exercise. They think nothing of trashing a lab, destroying equipment, stealing animals and gathering evidence of purported abuses by science. One of the first such involved the laboratory of Dr Edward Taub at the Institute of Behavioral Research in Maryland. They were able to capture the attention of the American public.\r\n\r\n- By the time the abuse of in the laboratory.\r\n\r\n- A lab worker Alex Pacheco headed the radical group PETA People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, filed a complaint about the conditions in the lab. Dr. Taub was prosecuted for cruel beat of animal. The first time an American scientist had ever faced such a charge. The charges against Dr. Taub were opponently dismissed. However, his government grant was suspended but far worse was the dash to the entire biomedical research community. Photographs and video tapes taken by Picheco and publicized through the media made animal rights a house hold word. The movement took off from sudden propaganda victory. This success unarmed the extremists. Attacks of laboratories gained main headlines. This was the way to the public confidence in research. Impressions of carelessness and animal suffering that's what the activists were and are looking to exploit. On with video tape edited from stolen footage, PETA the organization representing the writers labeled heading charges against the Head Injury Research Laboratory at the University of Pennsylvania. PETA denounced institutional policing of research animal treatment as worthless and that the research was of no value. The university attempted to fight up the importance of the clinic's work but the public uproar was too loud. The tapes raised too many unanswered questions. The Department of Health and Human Services suspended the Head Injury Research brand. Subsequently the laboratory was closed.\r\n\r\n- The door was open and the door knob has been already collected for.\r\n\r\n- On the other side of the country, the University of California, Riverside found itself victim of a search and destroy mission. The attackers inflicted more than a 1/2 a million dollars in damages. They also disrupted important work on infant blindness. The institution did a good job of communicating the value of the research. But it also had to stand a full year craving it's good name.\r\n\r\n- In the end it all means one thing The rains, the photographs and tapes, the demonstrations the charges they all undergoing research. And the average person that all animal research is vicious, irresponsible and unnecessary. And the facts never stand in there way.\r\n\r\n- This demonstration at the National Institute of Health in Washington.\r\n\r\n- These are media activists. They placed a new of headlines and airtime on the evening news. They take advantage of any situation they can find as yet another example of cruel and sense of exploitation. If there not the standards. But when animal rights activists point out violations or sloppiness there is no to public opinion. In this instances the entire research community. Scientists are accountable to the public for what they do and how they do it. It is that much of our work. The public with their under research process. The of the public trust of that trust. As you can see our opposition is. But we can win if we can maintain on the support for research. That is the public affair right now. Our is a result of a recent survey by National Opinion Research. The use of wild animals in place of humans for the explaining of biomedical functions and the reasons.\r\n\r\n- I do approve of this animals in place of humans where it can further medical research to help humans.\r\n\r\n- And certain people said they didn't. Some said they didn't know and most didn't know. So I won't worry you with this. And there are all kinds of polls and surveys. Some which say that you shouldn't use non-human animals in research, some say you shouldn't suffer. But what does that really matter? I mean, it's important how all of us feel and I felt it was right. We are concerned about gaining public support but only public support is a thoughtful and meaningful kind of support. What really matters is not to make this such a confrontational and polarized issue. Remember the gentleman said that we can win. Well it is a bad, there's no question about that. But those of us who believe that non-human animals and human animals for that matter should not be used in basic research. And there were those whose livelihood depends upon it just like mine used to. There those who have the best of interest in this kind of thing. There those who sincerely believe that the only way to further the progress of medicine and biomedicine is to use non-human animals in research. I believed that some eight to 10 years ago, I might as well have been here arguing to the other side of this coin. I no longer believe it and I read more scientific journals and material now than I ever read as a scientist in the laboratory. I'm firmly convinced as I said in the opening statement of this film that the use of non-human animals as subjects, as models for the human being retaliate the progress of the medical science. And we'll get much more deeply into that. You may find me sort of floating off on different areas tonight because I'm firmly convinced that one can't discuss one area without going into all the ancillary areas that surround it. It's not just to use non-human animals in biomedical research that I'm concerned about. It's the attitudes that each of us have for other animals, other life bonds, other beings that help us form the intricate and vital ecological web that sustains all of us. That has to do a great deal with the exploitation of animals. And I want to discuss that a little bit. Before I go to far I want to mention that most of you have made use of the hand table. There's one there that's in very tiny print and it's a two pager. And it's called \"The Realities 88\" by John Robbins. I want to point that out to you. I would ask you to do, if you do nothing else after tonight read that what it says. John Robbins is the heir to the Baskin-Robbins fortune. He's a young man, in his late 30s. He grew up with the ice cream corn shake circle in his backyard and everything that you possibly want. He was to take up the of Baskin-Robbins Fortune. However John became an ecologist. He became an environmental, he became an person and he became a very responsible psychotherapist who now lives in Santa Cruz California. He said, \"dad's out of business. The dairy industry is cruel.\" Why is the dairy industry cruel? The question was asked to me just before I walked up here to speak to you so to that question just for a moment. Dairies are no longer in most parts of the country. These places cows go out and wander through the pastures all day and come in to their morning and their evening milking. There is a different factories just like factory farms, for pigs and chickens and sheep and goats and turkeys and all the rest them. They're all in a house inside for the majority of their lives. There kept fresh by being bred every 9 months or something. And what happens to the male cows? There piped off into the industry where they're put in the and there fed milk fed diets so that they're anemic so that their skin will be pale. So that will accept the need. They're kept so anemic that they have constant diarrhea many of them die, a large percentage of them die and many of the could hardly walk through the. That's what happens to male cows. What happens to the heifers the female cows. They're recycled into the dairy industry That's not proof for you to tell me not eat dairy anymore. That's not proof for you to tell John Robbins to get out of the ice cream business is a happiness is an illusion. He wrote a book called the \"The Diet of a America.\" It's been nominated for a nobel prize and for prize hardly you know that. And he will be seen on many of the talk shows in our country. You catch him he's a interesting guy. I'm not asking that you believe me or nor did I ask you to believe John. I think that's straight throughout this entire thing. I asked you to read it and that you think about it. He offers excellent documentation, good references, check him out, see if what he has to say is true. I think it will change your life and help you. Let's find back the film for a moment. The gentleman there shows us pictures every bit is as him possibly to show you. And the animals that you saw who had two doctor digits or had self abuse, self mutilated there arms, and that one shot you saw a couple of times of a man looking for with a big eye. Those animals were the subjects of Edward Taub psychologist in Maryland. I went into that lab undercover and assigned an affidavit about the condition within the laboratory. The animals had not seen a veterinary in over two years. This is in National Institute of Health grant in my. The animals has been to certain nurses in some of their wanted to abandon this animals except for the control room where a devoid of feeling. So they chewed it on them and they didn't experience pain of course but they had open wounds all the time they were not treated. The medicine in the laboratory for over a year. There was no choice, no purchase nothing that cages large enough for the animals to. The food was not to this day was fell onto the trays where it was dipped out of the urine where the animals could eat. Not to this day as the scientific community come out against this man. He was convicted on six accounts of cruelty in the Maryland court. He appealed we went back to court. I was a witness of the prosecution once again, he was convicted on one account of cruelty. Failure to provide adequate medical care. He then to the higher court and the case. The cruelty laws was not attained for research. You didn't hear that when you heard the tape you heard that he was eventually exonerated. He was not exonerated as a matter of fact he received for $22,000 and he was made a follower of the triple As. One of our most procedures scientific organizations. He was supported by the American Veterinary Medical Association. He was supported with funds by American Psychological Association. I don't call that responsible. The other laboratory that you saw was the Head Injury Clinic at the University of Pennsylvania. Run for 12 years by Dr.Thomas Gennarelli. And that experiment was subjected to severe g forces to that device that you saw that twisted their heads. It actually threw their heads through space to up to 1000 genes. However, that was calibrated. It was a bit of a mystery. But it accelerated so fast that it crushed the brain against the inside of the skull. Now sensically to provide a model for human brain injury. That business is very court subject. That has no siege. The has do not have the same kind of motor function. The skull is not at rap him around. It's a subject. As far as I can ascertain as far as the rest of the science and movement can tell not one single finding has come from this research that has any relevance at all on human brain injury. And yeah, he was fined for 13 straight years by the National Institute of Health. A constant of nine million dollars a year to the tax payer. And just before the uncovered Jane, the head of said this is one of the best laboratories in the country. The animal liberation so-called terrorists within our organization. I didn't notice that reviews going on search and destroy missions in order to equate and work closely with terrorists They went into the laboratory unannounced and they liberated 60 hours of pay, which is what some of which you've seen tonight. Didn't take any hours or anything else it just took the tape that was shot by the researchers themselves and we have the and NIH and brought the tape to the attention of our congress and our senators and eventually Margaret Heckler who was then the secretary of the HHS Health and Human Services the organization that runs NIH. And when that came out then the closed. They dated last week on the scientist to share and he was a veterinary. When he saw those tapes, he said, \"you know this is unconscionable. It's perfectly awkward to show this tape. This kind of research should never have gone on.\" So first time I've heard the scientific community turn around and say, \"this is bad.\" They usually fall behind these people completely. That really does leave their regular polarization. So here's a tape that I told you that are mine Paul must have shown to you to tell you how much we are terrorists. We're not terrorists. We're trying to be open up the laboratories to public scrutiny. You paid for it it's your health and it's time you knew what went inside. We're asking for some time also that we can go into the meetings. We can ether listen to the protocol, understand what people are approving and not approving. Why they are doing that. Seeing at research whether it's and what was meaning at all. Of course many of this go far beyond that time and wouldn't want to research to be done separately because we hold a different ethic for non human animals. From a purely scientific point of view these kinds of things and the other kinds of things going on a laboratory are not helping us, they're hurting us. They're reverting resources, they're reverting funds, they're reverting energy, they're reverting time. We needed to get on with the business of medical and biomedical research. In his introduction Paul said that, I left the laboratory because I was appalled by the cruelty that's what he implied. But I with the introduction although it's not really true. I left the laboratory without much consideration of what was happening to non-human animals ascension creature. I had done there for some 15 and a half years. My jobs was to ascertain the effects of ionizing radiation upon the behavior of man. Ionizing radiation the kind of stuff you expect from nuclear confrontation. I obviously cannot radiate man. So I would accept the model at that point and over radiating a creature that's close to man. I was offered chimpanzees in this research I refused. I didn't know why 'cause I knew that didn't wanna be the first scientist to history radiating and killing chimpanzees. So I had my own 60 biases at that point in time but somehow I felt and I had been conditioned to feel that non-human animals not even primates monkeys were okay. They were okay to you. I believe that. Why did I believe that? I believe that because I was raised in a farm I was taught to trap animals and kill them early in my life because they competed with us for our economic substance. I was taught to eat animals you need then when you can. I was taught to raise animals for food. I was taught be part of the where raising animals and sell them. I was taught to hunt. And I was taught to fish. And I was taught to and I was taught to go to circuses And I was taught all the things that learn that says to us it's okay to be. It is okay to be human centered. It's okay to do any damn thing you please to non-human animals because there here on earth for our purposes. And I believed it. So when I moved to graduate school the psychologist. I was assigned a laboratory, a rat laboratory to teach sophomores and juniors the principles of last. I taught them how to teach rats. And how to teach rats with food. And how to teach rats with liquid. And I assumed that was the right now the basics of learning what it was all about. And then, I went out to the world and tried my psychologist for a few years and when I got air force I transferred over to working with monkeys. And put in charge of this laboratory. I didn't know much about physiological experimental psychology. So I went back to Ohio State, did another years post graduate work and then came back to the laboratory. Well, as I said, I accepted it. And then one day I was told experiment that was scientifically invalid. I was ordered to radiate four trained research monkeys at a go slow that I knew would cause everyday real change over the 10 hour close observation the period. So I knew we wouldn't see anything. These animals would die and if they were left their own devices after receiving that kind of radiation. But I knew we wouldn't see anything. So I sent it to aa friend of mine a veterinary to the, we already know what's going to happen here besides there's only an end of four that is there's only four animals and four animals is not a large subject group to meet any of the statistical criteria which we set up. So we know what's going to happen and this I agree with you. So I asked other peers just other psychologist positioned to know and they all agreed with me. So I said, \"okay we don't need to do this experiment it's a waste of resources, it's a waste of government resources, a waste of viable things, you know we need to do other things.\" And I looked at the boss and said, \"we've decided we can do this experiment by literature review we can give you results to the strategic air command that will be understand. I mean it's just as confident as if we would have before. And he said \"I agree.\" But he said, \"we're going to do it anyway.\" Because he told the strategic air command that we would do it. And that's part of our basic funding victor. So you do it anyway. So for reasons I was ordered to do something that was unscientific. No matter what kind of a scientist I was at the time. I was convinced that I was against something. And this time I wasn't about to do something like that. So I said, \"no.\" And that's when I got in trouble and I got fired. And I got angry 'cause I don't like to get fired. So I called back I charged them with the government resources. I charged them with mismanagement and I had the inspector generals come and investigate and they white washed it and walked out and I got madder. So I continued to fight, eventually I won but I didn't win on the grounds of cruelty or any of those things. I simply won because they the charges against me to fire me. I came back to the job. They were nice enough to give me the opportunity to write a paper \"Delineating Alternatives For Using Non-Human Animals In These Kinds of Research Endeavors.\" I spent three months doing research. Wrote a paper recommending that they cease all those kinds of research. You can imagine my reception. I was told go back to laboratory following Monday morning and go back to working with non-human animals after all that was job description. Well I borrowed a phrase from Tom Robbins I don't know if you've read it. It's a marvelous book. But I borrowed a phrase from him. I called in Monday morning I said, \"this is Donald Barnes and I'm calling unwell and I'll never be back.\" So for calling sick I called unwell and I think we don't think about sometimes it's really fun to change your life that way, It gives well, you get an outside of the system when the call should be. I could no longer go back in the lab and work with this animals. I committed myself to the fact that a scientifically. Now have you noticed that I have been talking about emotionalism. I have not been reaching out and saying these animals, this poor little animals are animals are hurting and dying . I have not said anything like that. I did not understand that ethic. I'm talking straight from a scientific point of view. During the time the 10 months that it took me to fight back and I went back into reinstatement I the work that I've been doing all those years I said, \"what is it that I'm supposed to do? All right I'm supposed to define a nuclear environment so that we can predict what will happen to human beings in case a bomb goes off.\" Now, how am I doing that? Using monkeys, right? I don't have any extractive functions between monkeys and man. I don't have any figures that allow me to extrapolate between mice and rats and dogs and cats and monkeys and baboons and whatever. I don't have any of those things, they don't exist. They never have they never will. So how am I doing that? I'm doing that by guessing my God. What if the monkey is a perfect model for man. What if the recess monkey was a perfect model for man and if we radiate him at 600 rads know with certainty that the effects will be exactly the same as radiating a human being with let's say 400 rads. So we have a perfectly of coefficient. Then what would I know. That's gotta really for a loop. I don't know anything because there's no way of using those data. If I knew what happened to the human, in the event of the nuclear war how could I use the data? If the bomb goes off you don't see any measuring devices anywhere, and in the operational environ or anywhere else to tell what kind of doses are going to be received. No one knows the kind of dose you're going to get from a nuclear explosion. Even if we did know there was no medications to immediately the effect of ionizing radiation. There's nothing to do. You can't shield them in because that means putting casing airplane is another place you can't afford that sort of thing. So what was I doing? I was slowly updating a the computers for war games that's what I was doing. And they had no reality and any real world situation, I mean real world problem. And then I was to call that for 16 years I hadn't known that. I hadn't sat down and taken a look at it because I was too comfortable. I was sitting in my office getting orders and I had people to train monkeys with shock and reinforcement to be radiated. So that I get on the papers, so I could get more funding so that I could get a paper so I could rise within my profession and also rise within the institution. I had not looked at what I was really doing. And I was fall back. And embarrassed about it. I had bought the system and I had not questioned the system. That's one of my favorite teachers question authority. Who are we giving this animals to? We provided electric shock when they didn't do what we wanted them to so What do we call that? We called it bieuphamism. We called it negative reinforcement. We called it a noxious stimuli. What do we call this animals? We call them subjects, we call them preparations. We ourselves in closeness to this animals. We were taught to be objective. We were taught to remove ourselves emotionally from our subjects from our preparations. We didn't even call them living creatures we didn't shock them we delivered noxious stimuli. We've conditioned them to. They didn't scream they delivered. All this words all this euphemism that sort of cloud through the reality of a lives. You couldn't get too close. You couldn't be objective. If you got too emotional, you couldn't interpret the data. \"Nonsense,\" I say now. But I was conditioned into that thing completely. I believed it. When people came into the laboratory they couldn't with the animals that were breaking down in tears they couldn't handle what had to be done, the necessary evil. Then they left and they went somewhere else. At one time, we got a PhD statistician came and joined our group and he saw the animals being shocked. And he was screaming. And he said, \"this is horrible, you know what's going on here?\" And my boss heard that he was raising questions then he came to me and he said, \"Don this could be trouble. We should have a talk with him.\" And I said, \"sure.\" So I go up to Steve and I said \"Steve I know this seems fair but we have to have and there's no other way of doing it.\" And we really had a talk and after that I convinced him that it was a necessary evil. But as I convinced him the words began to sound horrible to myself. They began to sound horrible because I was beginning to have suspicions that this data weren't useful but I was doing this wrong pursuit. And make no mistake about it, they were talking industry. They were talking multi billion dollar industry. And that's the bottom line isn't it. We're talking people who breed animals for research who make cages, who provide feed, who build, who investigate, who inspect, who. All the things that make for the entire industry of biomedical research. How did it go? Is it for someone who's worked for 20 to 30 years with non-human animals and suddenly they say, \"my God what was doing all these years that ain't gonna work.\" Most people believe it is going to work. Do I think that scientist should say this? No, of course, I don't think they should say this. They're not here this sort of thing. But never say no. The people who were mean who believed that they highest ethic is to work for non-human animals even at the extents of whatever it takes, within the field of non-human animal. I believe that. I'm shocked that I was highly ethical person, so I supposedly became a clinical psychologist. That I realized that only in terms of the human species. All the other species were completely forgotten out there. They were asked tools to be used for the wrong species. And we believe that in modern age. So I was subjected to these kinds of conditioning, through graduate school. Since then by the way I've gotten in touch with some of my old professors. And said to them, \"what is this? You know why didn't we discuss this? why didn't we talk about? Which is why I'm so glad to be here tonight because today I went to talk to some of the psychology grad students and over hear veterinary people and at least I can raise these issues. You don't have to believe them. You don't have to deal with them but you can think about them. I didn't have that opportunity and I resent it very much. So I wrote my old professors and I said, \"why don't we talk about these things? Why suddenly what has happened with this new ethic and all of a sudden, we never discussed it. Why didn't we talk about it at least?\" And he wrote back and he said or they wrote back and they said, \"well it wasn't an issue then, none of us talked about it but we do now, you better believe we do now.\" So the movement is doing nothing more than awakening the of people in the universities. And it's doing something that I'm very proud of. Now in lines people you've been conditioned to believe that all major medical advances have come to animal research. I deny that. I think that is extremely misleading. So I think personally that we'd be much further ahead in terms of health knowledge and biomedical expertise had we never used non human animals in research. What's the biggest killer today cancer, heart disease, cervic cancer. One third of all, cancers can be stopped by stopping smoking. The simple sensation smoking. Another 50 to 60 to 70% can be completely prevented by changes in lifestyle. Why aren't we talking about keeping people healthy? That's where it's all coming from. So people won't have to suffer, so they don't have to look for that magic bullet so they can live a life that assures them of longevity. Not too long ago, a young lady from this area was criticized for talking about asking people to go for the lower fat, higher fiber diet. She was just sitting, well everybody says and every intuition magazine in the country She's saying heart, cancer she's just reflecting what everyone said. I think if you look deeply that isn't the issue. You'll see that if you stop eating all animal products that you're going to be healthy. And as long as you began, you keep eating animal products your gonna. And you could and then you could work out and then more and more research is coming out about this. Milk is not a perfect food it's a for cub secondary panels life but it's not for humans. It's simply not. And its high fat content. And it causes us to have a great deal of great many problems But having cancer that start of the vacuum. May 1986 journal medicine Dr. John Smith, Dr. John Bailer and his colleague Smith published an incredibly interesting article. He points out that over 98% of all human cancers mortality data is greater or equal to that goes 35 years ago. I'm going to repeat that. For over 98% of all human cancers the mortality data is greater than or equal to that which was 35 years ago. Leukemia, for Addison's disease and for a few other rare cancers clinical treatment with humans have taught us, means of prolonging life far beyond the five years survival. That's less than 2% of all human cancers. In our lifetime they one to four chance of contracting cancer. Have we won the war on cancer. No, we're losing the war on cancer. Hundreds of millions of non-human animals, have suffered and died. And we're losing the war. Is that the way to go? I think not. I know not, it can't be. How can one cause a non-human animal in most cases to grow a tumor, a cancerous tumor when that tumor has nothing to do with the kind of tumors and go on the cancerous process that arise from the human being. What is the triggering mechanism? Do we know? No, why do we use a because they're life span are so short that we can follow it very quickly. That means their metabolic differences are so great that everything is happening differently. 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disease.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=6.968,9.21"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Again, stop smoking, change your diet,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=9.21,10.888"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cut down on cholesterols, cut down on fats.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=10.888,13.34"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just do some exercising in the woods.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=13.34,16.048"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hell, then you won't have to worry about it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=16.048,17.474"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and a lot of animals will not die.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=17.474,19.084"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How many animals?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=19.084,19.917"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nobody knows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=19.917,21.0"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nobody knows how many animals we kill every year","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=21.887,24.397"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in this country for biomedical research.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=24.397,27.749"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that tells us how little we care.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=27.749,29.599"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I will guess 60 million,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=30.65,32.33"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"maybe, 70 million.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=32.33,34.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Office of Technological Assessment","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=34.03,35.653"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"guessed 17 to 22 million are used every year","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=35.653,39.366"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in federally funded research.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=39.366,41.232"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that doesn't include the pharmaceutical companies,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=41.232,43.44"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that doesn't include product testing companies,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=43.44,45.095"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that doesn't include many of the laboratories","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=45.095,47.932"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who are independent and private contractors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=47.932,50.001"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How many animals a 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care?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=54.21,55.593"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=56.96,58.49"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I care 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(murmurs).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=2236.346,2241.346"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/984","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we're gonna have to go (murmurs)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=2242.591,2244.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/985","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and worry about all of those three quarters gone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=2244.84,2247.013"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/986","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So if you don't mind,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=2247.013,2248.043"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099/transcript/25143/annotation/987","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm gonna close and have a 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Again, stop smoking, change your diet, cut down on cholesterols, cut down on fats. Just do some exercising in the woods. Hell, then you won't have to worry about it and a lot of animals will not die. How many animals? Nobody knows. Nobody knows how many animals we kill every year in this country for biomedical research. And that tells us how little we care. I will guess 60 million, maybe, 70 million. The Office of Technological Assessment guessed 17 to 22 million are used every year in federally funded research. But that doesn't include the pharmaceutical companies, that doesn't include product testing companies, that doesn't include many of the laboratories who are independent and private contractors. How many animals a year? We don't know enough to care. Should we care? I don't know. I care now, I care more than I like to. It used to be that it was awfully easy for me to watch films like this, I find it increasingly difficult. Because I find it increasingly easy to emphasize with other animals and to realize that they experience anxiety, stress, suffering, fear, and pain, and death. Just like I do. I find it increasingly harder to believe that I'm the only species that was put on this Earth to rule all the species. But I don't find it increasingly hard to believe that reason I do this is that I'm stronger and I'm bigger. And therefore I do it. Not that I have a right to do it, but I do it. I see the world now as a big, web of life with all branches tied together in a beautiful, beautiful intricate form. And every little aspect of that impinges on every one of us and every other animal and every other life form on this earth. When I think about what's happening to this earth, I'm afraid. And if I wasn't such a optimist, I'm afraid I'd be totally depressed and go out in the woods somewhere like a hermit. A lot of my friends did. The rainforests are coming down in Brazil, Costa Rica, and other places at a hundred acres a minute. Minimum! Minimum, a hundred acres a minute. As I talk, as you sleep tonight, as you go to class tomorrow, as you enjoy the rest of your life. A hundred acres a minute. They're not gonna last. Why are they coming down? They're coming down because we're providing pasture land for beef to be shipped over here for McDonald's burgers and Burger King. For fast food American beef. Not the only reason, but a primary reason. How long does that land stand up when it's trodden under the hooves of cattle? Two, three years? It's not a deep slow pace, it's a shallow slow pace. For and it disappears. And so it becomes unfaithful in a few years for the cattle company, so they move on. Slashing and burning. Then the small farmer, the subsistence farmer, will take the land over for another two to three years to grow his crops and feed his family. By that time, the soil's gone. And it's gone forever. The rainforest is completely gone and it's gone because it's a millennia that it took to put that rainforest in there. And you don't bring it back overnight. Human population being as it is, they're not gonna slow down now. But I'll tell you one thing, we can stop feeding 80% of the corn we grow in this country to non-human animals so we can eat them. And 90% of our oats is fodder for non-human animals so we can eat them. Why can't that corn and those oats and those whatever wheats and soybeans and grain go to feed people who are hungry if we're so concerned about other people? What happens when we pump our aquifers out of water and we're in serious trouble in some of our aquifers in this country to provide fodder to feed the cattle so that for every eight pounds of grain that we feed to a cow, we can get one pound of fat and protein out that may very well cause us to have serious diseases. I am very concerned about this sort of thing. What happened to the greenhouse effect this summer? Didn't we see the hard years of the greenhouse effect? Can we afford to say we didn't? What's happening? We know the ozone layer is opening up. We know the greenhouse effect is upon us, if it's not now it will be soon. It's time to do something now as individuals, each one of us. What can you do? It's discouraging sometimes. I go about recycling my bottles and recycling my aluminum cans and recycling my metal cans and recycling my shiny cardboard, my unshiny cardboard to the point where I'm thinking I spend my whole life recycling. I don't wear any animal products anymore so I clomp around in plastic shoes and try to keep from slipping in the icy parts in the winter. And stop eating, and don't eat other animals. And do whatever I can, even if it's going out and picking up worms all over the sidewalk and putting them in the grass so they won't burn up. That's crazy but if I am meant to do it, then I do it. Because I'm only one person but I can make a little bit of difference. And you're only one person, every one of you, and you can all make a little bit of difference. And that's what this is all about. Whether it's within the laboratory or whether it's in the farm or whether it's in an anti-fur campaign or whatever. It's a matter of learning to respect other life forms on this earth. To try to maintain the integrity of the system that we all depend on. It's hard to change. The hardest thing in the world that I think is for human beings to change their attitudes and their habits. I don't know why it seems to be awfully hard for people to give up meat. It's really easy once you do it, but it seems to be awfully hard for people to do it. It's awfully hard to change. Well, let me break this up and then tell you about a man who did change. I don't know why he changed but. This guy by the name of Jim Blackens lived down in Corpus Christi, Texas, down in redneck country. Jimmy's macho character. He's 62, three years old. He grew up as a fighter pilot in World War II. He went through about three or four wives and a whole bunch of booze and a lot of things to show you he's a real man. He's a hunter, Jimmy was. He went around and shot the brown deer and shot the grizzly. Went down to Mexico and shot the jaguar and shot every animal on the North American continent that he could kill or he could shoot. And about four years ago, Jimmy was down in Texas shooting the white tail deer and he shot a little doe. Weighed about 60, 70 pounds. As the animal fell Jimmy walked up to the animal and he broke down in tears. And he said, \"Don\" he said, \"I always wanted to be so I thought I was going crazy.\" He said, \"The tears ran down my cheeks and they burned on the way down.\" He said, \"I didn't cry after my mother died. I was taught not to cry. Real men don't cry and I cried. I walked up to that little deer, that little carcass and I laid down and I cried. Sat down and cried way over for two hours I cried.\" He said, \"I knew I'd never hurt another living soul.\" Jimmy's one of now. They keep us from being emotional. And that is emotional. But that's what's important about our lives; is to be able to feel, to be able to have empathy, to be able to understand that other people and to love them, to care for them. Not to regard other creatures as though they're yours to exploit, or be used, or to conquer. But to live listen in this life. Not many can and don't do that. When we take animals in the laboratory, healthy animals, and we make them ill, we make them suffer, we make them die through a hypothetical state with another animal or another species of animal. I say that is wrong. It's morally wrong by any code and it's time we stop that and start looking for health and make that healthcare system in this country not a sickness care system. One more story that I have to tell you. It's a story that's written by Loren Eisley. I wish I had written it. It's short. Started with a man, a famous author, supposedly, I don't believe it makes no difference, walking on the beach early one morning. As the sun was coming out, he noticed another person on the beach and that person seemed to be doing a dance of some kind. And he was curious and so he went along the beach to see what was going on. The second person was leaning down and picking up starfish off the sand and throwing them into the surf. And as our author friend looked, he saw that there were thousands and thousands of starfish on the beach. And they extended as far as the eye could see. And they were everywhere. You see, the tide had gone out, leaving them there. And he walked up to the man and he said, \"What are you doing?\" And the man said, \"If the starfish stay here and the sun comes up, they will die. And so I'm picking them up and throwing them back into the water. And the author said, \"But look at the number of starfish.\" He said, \"What you're doing, it makes no difference.\" And the man reached down and he picked up a starfish and he said, \"It makes a difference to this one.\" And he threw it into the surf. And that's the whole point. It makes a difference to every animal that you do not kill by eating them, or wearing them, or using them in any other way. Thank you very much. I wouldn't be chicken enough to leave without taking questions and trying to help find the answers among us, so those of you who would like to have some dialogue, let's get in it.\r\n\r\n- [Man] You said that medical resources were being diverted by animal research, during animal research. What forms do you support--\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Well, in order to provide for care for some 60, 70, 50 million animals a year and all the things that go with it, we're spending a great deal of resources. Also, the number of people that it takes to support that kind of research is astronomical. What I'm suggesting in the most general sense is to follow the dictates of Alexander Pope, who says proper study of mankind is man. I'm suggesting we divert those funds in to learning what happens to the human being. And I don't mean to subject human beings to basic research against their will. Although, you know, human being are used often for research in this country with their own permission. And the NIH has a great deal of this kind of work going on. Every drug that ever comes out after it goes through the other tests has to go through a human testing procedure. So there's a lot of human Guinea pigs being used. But I suggest we use, we look at biochemistry. We look at the mapping of the genome, if you will. Whatever we can do to understand the physiological biological basis of disease process in man, and that's what I'm saying. We need to put our resources into that area. Christ's sake, if I knew the answers to all these, I'd have the Nobel prize. There was one today for biochemistry. We are essential . Would you prefer or are there ethical jobs that .\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] I didn't understand it. Did you say, is the question sentience?\r\n\r\n- [Man] No, I'm saying that before it were really essential to use the animal for experiments. Would you prefer--\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Well, no, but you to see that word essential it's usually said as necessary and that really bothers me a great deal because it was necessary just a couple of years ago to kill a rabbit or another animal to determine whether human beings were pregnant. Now it takes a simple litmus test that you can pick up at the drug store. It was necessary just 150 years ago to maintain the institution of slavery for the economic viability of the south. It was necessary to withhold the vote from women. It was necessary to do a lot of things according to a lot of people, but it's not necessary, is it? I think we have to rethink, and that's one reason why I said it's so hard for people to think, to change. You have to sort of step out of the dark man and start thinking again about what the goals are and how you might best to reach them without having to be bound them with traditional lines of thought and or practice. I just want human animals in research 'cause I haven't been taught to use non-human animals in research. It was a question over here, sir.\r\n\r\n- [Man] Do you think computer simulations, models, and stuff like that will lesson the impact on research--\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] The question is can computer, well, actually, if I can rephrase the question, is can some computer simulation or use of computers act as an adequate alternative for the use of animals in research. And not this point, although it has been done at the University of Texas and other places. And certainly in terms of teaching physiology, teaching basic biology, the kinds of things that we teach. In order to gain data, however, it's pretty hard to go through any number of iterations on the computer and find new data. I mean this is data in, data out. But that doesn't mean you have to get that data from non-human animals. The data can come from humans. We don't do autopsies anymore. Or very seldom do we do. And why not? It's a source of incredibly rich data about course of disease, treatment, and so forth. Why not? Well, because a lot of people think that that's sort of gross but also because in the Navy, because of the did. Do you want one? I'll talk to you some. What about epidemiological studies? More and more of those are being done and more should be done. Tell us what happens to the human being given a certain environment. You had a follow-up?\r\n\r\n- [Man] Not directly related to that.\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Well what's playing the data on the TV, you know, it's like the presidents. You have a follow-up question, sir?\r\n\r\n- [Man] For the veterinary students, some learn surgery and stuff like that. Do you support that and the use of animals .\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] I'm very pleased with some of the things they're doing here. The question was do I support the use of animals to teach veterinary students what they need to know about other animals. Here I understand they have a clinic where people can bring their animals and veterinary students can learn by working on sick animals. You see, I'm not opposed to the use of all animals in research as long as you're working with a sick and bad animal. And you can learn from that animal. That's fine, that's fine for research. It's when you take a healthy animal and go through that whole maturation that I'm irrevocably opposed to. So if you were to take a healthy Beagle and have the Beagle wanna produce something from the Beagle to help all Beagles, yeah, I'm very much opposed to that. Ma'am?\r\n\r\n- [Woman] Yes, a little while ago, you said that the first drugs are . What are we going to do before we put the drugs into humans ?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] While you are present, Jessie just volunteered. I don't wanna give you a facetious answer. The point is, The World Health Organization tells us we need about 310, 320 drugs to maintain a bio-healthy society. You and I had access to 50, 60,000 drugs. We're talking about a drug-dependent society. We're talking about being very careful about what kind of drugs we put out. We don't need all these drugs. We need to understand, perhaps here's where computers can really help too, because we need to understand much more what the combinations of various elements and chemical properties will do so that many drugs are coming out now that have only a minor change. And if we can start building up in vitro tests, where pain and suffering is not a accompaniment to the test to look at what they do to tissues, then let's get with it. You see, the NIH and the NSF, and the funding organizations have not funded alternatives. They've never done it. Only now are they starting to advertise, because of the animal welfare act, situations that they need to do this. Now they're advertising for projects that will lead to in vitro alternatives to testing and so forth. Whether it's drugs, or household products, or whatever it may be. Again, I have a big ignorance in that sense except if we know what's in the drug, if we know what it may do, and we can develop an in vitro test, we're not gonna have to hurt other animals to put the test around. You know, it's a funny point because aspirins can be lethal. So does the aspirins kill the cat. Penicillin kills Guinea pigs. A lot of drugs don't do the same things in one animal that they do in another. And it's pretty lethal. We know many cases, particularly arthritis, and medicines for arthritis, and so forth, that cause a great many people to suffer and die. Just because they're tested on humans doesn't mean that they're tested accurately. Certainly, the non-human animal tests are not necessarily predictive of toxicity in human situation. We use tons of animals to test household products. I only use toothpaste and conditioners and hairsprays and scrubbers and all this other stuff that have not been tested on animals. That's hard to do to make your house cruelty-free. But you need to do it if you're really highly serious about this whole thing. So what happens when they test, why do they test half those products on animals? Why do they do that? Oh, they said we want to protect your children. We don't want anything out there environment, if your child might splash and hit their eye or eat. You have bleach in your home, don't you? Do you have oven cleaners? Do you have other toxic items? Just because they're tested on animals and found to be toxic, or caustic, or poisonous, doesn't mean they're not produced. They are produced. Just put a warning label on and produce them. It makes very little difference in the sense of protecting people. We're gonna end here.\r\n\r\n- [Woman] Yeah, what about specimens for pacemakers and things? What would you suggest?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Pacemakers?\r\n\r\n- [Woman] Testing something like that.\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] You know, I'm gonna vary that question just a little bit, 'cause I don't really know very much about pacemakers. So let's talk about the artificial heart for a moment. Or, not the artificial, let's talk about the heart transplant, which is working very well for some people now. They did that, the heart transplant, on a lot of animals before it was ever done in humans. But what happened when they transplanted the first heart human-to-human? The guy died. What happened the second time? He died. What happened the third time? He died, fast. And if you look at that, you see there's a learning curve. Starting from the point in time they did the first human-to-human heart transplant, to the point where they are today, which is helping people live longer. But if that was so important, that that precursor work with non-human animals was so important, why did we start at zero? And the answer I think is the same as the pacemaker.\r\n\r\n- [Woman] What is your opinion of animal breeding, horseracing, dog racing, and even animal shows?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Well, I'm opposed to all exploitation of non-human animals. I have to be a purist because I speak for non-human animals constantly. So I try to be. I cannot be a purist if I drive my car, there are animal products in tires. If I did a picture, there are animal products in the gels of the film. There's animal products wherever you go. You simply cannot live without running in to them, right? I think that breeding animals, non-human animals, or human-animals for that matter, is just absolutely for the people, most people's egos, and for their pocketbooks, and for the write-offs. I used to breed Afghans long before I got in this business. And I thought that was a neat little way to get close to the animals and learn about them, make some money, and I was really wrong about that. I was simply procreating an animal that was just made for people's egos. Now when it comes down to the individual animal, I've got to deal with that animal as a sentient, individual being. But when it comes to putting more of animals out there and encouraging that, and making a multi-billion dollar industry every year, right back into the pocketbook game. And that's what we're talking about is money. And I'm opposed to it. I really sound holier than thou. Somebody said in a function the other day, \"Boy, you have all the answers, don't you?\" And I wanted to say, damn right, but I knew that I didn't come over that way. But see, it's a real danger because you will tell people what you want 'em to hear. And you're tryin' to persuade him, and you tell him, \"I'm not gonna make any money off this. Whether or not you guys decide to become vegetarians or whether you look at other animals in a different way. That's not gonna benefit me at all. It might benefit me if I was in a laboratory and I had to keep on using animals, but I'm not there. I'm not making any money off it. I understand just the way it is, so I'm gonna tell you that.\"\r\n\r\n- [Woman] What about these genetics and cloning in the animal--\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] The question is genetics and cloning. You know, we animal rights activists have asked for alternatives for a long time. And the use of genetic engineering and other kinds of manipulation of genetics is scary as hell but it's also, it's also maybe alternative for us in many ways. If we can understand what happens in the human to human genome within the entire system. We may be able to prevent a lot of suffering, not only in humans but in non-humans. I think you have to be very careful. Obviously I can't be presumptuous enough to be an expert in that area. It scares me, it's so complex. There was a question over here. Yeah, you ma'am.\r\n\r\n- [Woman] Pardon me, I walked in late so if you've already addressed this then let me know. But my question is how can we as college students and graduate students in our own way, a more effective way, bring up and be activists, like you are. But do you have any suggestions for things that would be effective that we could do ?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Well, my good friend, Ned Buyukmihci who's the co-founder of Veterinarians for Animal Rights. I did want to tell you too, we're actually becoming legitimate. We have veterinarians and physicians and psychologists, oh wait, psychologists . We are becoming legitimate. I'm just kidding. I'm a little upset because none of the psychology professors, none of them, none of the instructors, came over to hear or to interact with me this afternoon in the psyche department. And I really think that's pretty ridiculous because it would have been fun to interact with them. But anyway, my friend Ned Buyukmihci says the best thing we can do for non-human animals is to stop wearing them and to stop eating them. And that sets a precedent. And your mother's gonna scream that you're just gonna die. But you're not gonna die. You're gonna get healthier. And everybody's gonna say you're nuts and they start bringing it up. Every time they see you they're gonna want to invite you to dinner. When they start to bring it up and say, \"Ah, you, you, you wear animals.\" There's something, you know, like that. But you become a model for other people. If you're comfortable with it and secure with it, you can do more doing that than you can just becoming an activist. Who was it?\r\n\r\n- [Man] Do you believe that society can do without not using raw animal byproducts? To get rid of them all?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] The question is could society do without the use of all animal byproducts. Yes, I do.\r\n\r\n- [Man] You're speaking of you're against inhuman treatment of animals. What about conservation factors just to keep the animals alive, like save money trapping, or spaying, or neutering?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Oh, I'm totally for spaying and neutering. No question. You see, you run into a real problem with the canon animals, we call 'em pests. But we get domesticated cats and dogs so far it's pretty difficult for them to live in the wild. So we have a responsibility for them, especially the ones that are here today. We have a responsibility also not to allow somebody to breed or be killed, 11, to 12 to 13 million every year, which we do. That human irresponsibility that needs to be cleared up by a spay and neuter program. Hunting I completely, totally, irrevocably against. The arguments of the conservationists that we conserve animals is nonsense. Have you looked into it? They conserve animals so that someone can shoot the next year. The idea of culling a herd from the top down, shooting the powerful and allowing the most of the males and then allowing most of the females to re-breed simply overpopulates again the next year. We've gotten away with all the predators, there's no more wolves, there's no more big cats, there's no more kyles, there's nothing to kill 'em but man, so we become the predator. If we allow animals their own space, which we can't do because of human overpopulation and all the rest of the pressure problems, but if we could do that then they would adjust. The sick'll starve? Probably so. But starvation is not necessarily being shot. Is it worse than being shot? As a matter of fact, it's probably a lot better than being shot by 50 or 70 year olds, where the animals go away and die somewhere else. Or the musket loaders. Or whatever. Once they begin to form their own population then it maintains stability of that population. That's my belief.\r\n\r\n- [Man] Since we do interact with our environment, what do we do? What's, since we can't have the ideal, what do we do?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] I don't think I understand your question since we can't interact with our environment.\r\n\r\n- [Man] Since we are out there manipulating, we are the only predators left. What do we do? I mean, we can't leave the environment alone. We aren't separate from the environment.\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] No, we can treat the environment with respect. We can grow foodstuffs to eat that are renewable and can feed more animals or more organisms per unit space. We can simply be responsible for more, we can be more of our brother's keeper if you will. I see nothing contradictory about that. Let me see somebody who hasn't, who I haven't called yet. There's so many hands up for people who already have asked questions. Why is it the only same people asks questions? There's one!\r\n\r\n- [Man] How do we create our own kind of research being that animals .\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Well, the kind of research that has been done around the state. I know a little bit about that. I don't know a lot about it. I know I talked to a young man today who didn't tell me about his research, although apparently he's quite proud that his family put his chickens on hot plates and gives them various markings to see what will the chicken will dance to set off the hot plate. Some have even justifying this as being behavioral research that had to do with neurophysiology. I think it's nonsense. I don't see anyone who could possibly see that there's any justification in it. There's some work with sheep going around this place too, around ewes. And so they test the drugs on fetal development. And I'm really quite upset about that. I think that Iowa, the state will hear a great deal more from the animal rights movement about these particular findings, by the way. Ma'am?\r\n\r\n- [Woman] Yes, there are folks who are eating and wearing animals. Now if an animal dies a natural death, and the fur or the feathers or something that's used and fill a coat for human warmth--\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] The question is if an animal dies a natural death, I actually have a friend up in Michigan who is an extra surf psychologist who goes out every morning and finds road kills and if they're warm, he eats them. And that's his way of this guys been surfing, man. If they're cold, he takes it to his other animal. Well, we each go our own way. If we have a necessity, you see, I find it very difficult to criticize people who have no choice. The Eskimo, or the Indian, or the Inuit, or whomever who must live in any of those environment and have the fur or have the protein and whatever when he has no choice. It's a steep to those things here in America is really strange because we have a choice. It's a lot cheaper and it's a lot easier to wear things other than food. You know, you mentioned die of natural causes. It's pretty hard find that much, you are talking about road kill now. I don't know if you've kept up on this but Jennifer Graham is a young 16 year old girl in California, a senior now in Victorville. But a couple of years ago when she was a freshman, she refused to dissect a frog in biology class. And this got national headlines. And Jennifer got put out there in the limelight and she didn't want to be, but she wasn't gonna back down. So the HSUS, the Humane Society United States, helped her and they got attorneys and they fought the case. And finally just a few weeks ago, Jennifer won her case. But the judge dictated that the school had to go out and find a naturally dead frog, And bring it in and dissect it so that she could identify the parts. Now, this is so ludicrous. How many naturally dead frogs do you see? They're usually eaten by other animals or they're squashed in the road. How many intact naturally dead frogs? So she's gonna be there for a long time. She may never graduate.\r\n\r\n- [Man] What do you think of zoos being used to preserve animals that are endangered?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] You know, it's a real problem 'cause zoos don't do that very well. Besides, to me, this a part where we're kidding. If you take the condor, for example, there's not very many of them left. And so they've captured them all and they're trying to raise them inside. But what do you come out with? You come out with a captive animal. It's nothing like the natural animal that lived in its own habitat. It can't exist back when you put it on its natural habitat. I find it very, very difficult. I think each of these has to be taken by virtue of their own considerations. There are some animals that can't thrive in an environment. I understand that it's talking about reinstating otter here in the state. Probably because the trappers want to reinstate them so they can trap them. Well, I think that's completely ridiculous. I would love to see the otter have the natural habitat that he once had here, and whether the otter was in his environment but not to be trapped and made into a coat. I don't think zoos are, zoos are a real problem. Well, how do you think they feed the cats? I mean, there's a lot of things you do with these big back other animals. You put the animals out that people like. You spend billions of dollars on pandas, which are becoming extinct in their own native country. And other animals are scrub animals, they don't matter that much. They're really tough places. And I never thought I'd go along with people who love zoos and try to work with them. Some of the people are extremely humane and really neat people. It's tough to do what they have to do, but I don't like to see animals in captivity. In my way of thinking, any animal, human or non-human, that's in captivity, is a failure of the human condition. I work with prisoners too. I like that in cages. I'm also working on an animal apartment issue by the way. I want you to know that all of us animal rights people are not misanthropes. We may have the animal lovers but we respect you as well as different kinds of animals. And many of us are working on, some of my friends are Vietnam vets, and some are anti-Vietnam vets, and many of us are becoming very concerned about the situation in South Africa, the situation in Nicaragua, the whole Contra affair, and being an it's easy to get into the protest. Anytime you want, you just go downtown, find a protest, see if you want to join.\r\n\r\n- [Man] You talked about animals for dissection earlier. What is your opinion on that?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Well, I don't think animals should be used for dissection at all. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense to me. I dissected a fetal pig and I didn't learn a damn thing. Seems to me that if you're going to be a biologist, then you're gonna work with animals that are sick and some of them are gonna die. Out of necessity or legal, whatever, you got plenty of animals to work from without having to go cutting any more up. And there's a place where computers can really help because computers have come out with a tremendous amount of alternatives to describing physiological symptoms and how they work in much more detail and much better detail from human systems than you could ever come up with cutting up another animal. Cadavers are used anyway for a large part for the human problem. Way in the back.\r\n\r\n- [Woman] I have . Humane Society has all these animals, people want to adopt them but, like here in Ames it's almost virtually impossible to get an apartment as a student and have animals . Even if you are allowed to have a pet in an apartment, you have to pay at least $100 minimum for a deposit for an animal. I was wondering if you'd ever looked into that and tried to get people who will allow people to rent apartments while they have animals.\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] It's really hard to do because you must also have compliance with the apartment, with the landlord, because a lot of people, as irresponsible as other people are in terms of spaying and neutering, they're also terribly irresponsible when it comes to what animals do to houses and tear them up and so forth. We have had successful legislation on this issue with older folks. Folks who have had to leave their homes because they need care and various such housing situation. And particularly in California. So we had arranged so that they can keep their pets with them. And there's more empathy there than there is for a college student . But again, I don't know. That's a tough problem because your responsibility is not only to that other animal but it's also to your landlord until you own a place and you can treat it however you want. I empathize with you. A friend of mine was just evicted two days ago because she had nine cats and she told 'em she had one. She doesn't count very well.\r\n\r\n- [Woman] It will be a long time before many of us can own our own home. How is it ?\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Well, I don't know. Maybe you get a big farm and have some good community. Or a group housing situation. That has happens a lot around me where some of my friends live and everybody takes care of everybody else's dogs and cats. Sir?\r\n\r\n- [Man] You spoke of wearing of animal products and I wondered if you could address the question, well, I'm questionably wearing a big wool, the industry of animal usage. Yet our alternatives seem to be cotton, which facilitates wholesale dumps of chemicals on our land, or synthetics, which run through chemicals\r\n\r\n- [Lecturer] Yes, it's an excellent question, an excellent question. There's so many of this stuff that I don't have the answers to. I was at the grocery store the other day and I was getting a plastic bag to carry the groceries somewhere. And of course, I usually get the paper bags and recycle them when I get them out of my car. Or leave them there so other people can use them. But I had need for some plastic bags, so I had a couple and we were talking about the weird why's and I learned that it took two 18-wheelers to bring as many paper bags to the store as it took one 18-wheeler to bring a plastic bag to the store. And now we're talking about what the 18-wheeler does to the environment, right? So you get into these . I was talking to a woman earlier. It's not about wool, and of course wool is exploiting of animals. But on the other hand, if people raise a few animals they treat with love and kindness and they should've been not very well sharing, then it seems to be a symbiotic relationship that can't be denied. I got nothing against relationships like that. But I don't know the answers to your question. These pants are only a few pairs of trousers I had to grow on. Now, I gave away my other shoes so I didn't throw them away. I took them down and gave them to the street people in Spokane, Washington. But I don't waste things. And so you've gotta get that balance of not throwing things away, not wasting it and using what you can while still conserving as many resources as possible. Your question is great, we should all think about whatever way I can go so it effects . But we're gonna have to go and worry about all of those three quarters gone. So if you don't mind, I'm gonna close and have a beer. And say thanks a lot for coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2486/collection_resources/40474/file/112099#t=0.0,2265.91347"}]}]}]}