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So before I introduce him, let me just say that a technical comment, and that is that after the lecture and after the question and answer period, we're gonna have reception for Mr. Taubes and everybody in the audience is invited to stay and have some cookies and coffee or punch. So please stay and visit with Mr. Taubes when he's finished with his lecture and with each other. Okay, now our speaker today is Gary Taubes who is a science writer from New York. He has a degree from Harvard in physics, a degree from Stanford in engineering and a degree from Columbia in journalism. So his scientific background is broad and deep and he's the author of a number of articles in popular magazines such as The Atlantic and Discover Magazine. And also in scholarly journals, such as Science Magazine. He's the author of a book called \"Nobel Dreams\" which was published in 1987. And this is about the 1985 Nobel Prize, which was awarded to Carlo Rubia and Simon VanderMeer for the discovery on the WMC particles at certain. I'm sure that all Nobel Prizes are a big deal, especially to the recipients, but this was one of the more brilliant of the Nobel Prizes because the WMDs are critical particles in electro weak theory. And electro weak theory is what we consider to be our most sophisticated modern theory of the structure of the universe. So this was a very important Nobel Prize and this is a story, I think it's okay now?\r\n\r\n- Not yet.\r\n\r\n- Not yet. I don't think. So this was an important Nobel Prize and it was interesting also because it was one of the first of the really large collaborations. So what Mr. Taubes did in his first book \"Nobel Dreams\" was to actually go and live inside this collaboration and find out how very large, modern big science experiments are done. So there's a tremendous amount of sociology of science in this book, and it's extremely entertaining as well as a very fine discussion of the physics involved. Now in his second book, which we're gonna hear about tonight which I have not yet read. It's called \"Bad Science Short Life and Weird Time of Cold Fusion\"`. And as I said to him earlier, your first book is really a triumphal book. And so we'll let him tell us how he feels about his second book. Mr. Taubes.\r\n\r\n- That's about the most technical these night is gonna get. This is where my lecture used to be called before I gave it to an audience that included my family and they fell asleep. I just put it up because I'm a journalist and I write about science and sometimes scientists have trouble dealing with this. And I gave a lecture at the Gordon Conference. It was a very exclusive conference held in New Hampshire. And they don't even allow journalists in. Let alone have them lecture. And so when I put up this as a topic, they listed it as cold fusion dilutions the better part of grand. The other beginning note is in order to do my book. I wrote this book. It took me three years. I thought it would take me nine months. Just a slight underestimation. In the process of doing this I interviewed 260 and now I lecture on it and wherever I go I meet physicists who want to tell me what really happened because they're sure they know and I don't. So I also put up a list of the people I interviewed. So you get an idea of what, like 260 people look like. And then I tell these guys that I know within. We have a refresh memory of cold fusion. That's the remaining two six. So it's the Wall Street Journal article. March 24th, 1989 front page. Two scientists claim breakthrough with request for fusion energy and these two fellows at the university of Utah, Stan Ponds and Martin Fleischmann claimed that they could essentially take the power of hydrogen bomb, nuclear fusion, and control it and do it with batteries and plating wire and glass of water. This is a picture of a cold fusion reactor. All our standpoint of Martin Fleischmann. This was actually drawn by them and it looks very impressive and they made it look very impressive. But basically it's a glass filled with what's called heavy water, which is a kind of water. And it's got a couple of electrodes in it. This wire there criss crosses an electrode. This thing coming down. So electrode they plug into the wall. So essentially what you've got is glass water plugged into the wall with two electrodes in it. They claim that you could get nuclear fusion at this. Now three years later, what I'm gonna explain to you basically is what happens in nuclear fusion to understand just a little bit about the weirdest stuff. Last October there was the third international conference on cold fusion held in Japan. This was a summary of the conference. Basically you could get the hint from the last chapter. Its last paragraph says cold fusion will become one of the most important subjects in science. And it's not a matter to be studied by one single enterprise or nation. It will become the greatest assets as eventual energy for mankind to be shared among the world. Sounds very impressive. This is the list of the countries that participated in third international conference at cold fusion, the number of people and there were 300 scientists and business people there and cold fusion still. It's very viable science. Before doing it, they're lobbying Congress for funding. Canadians recently did a CBC television show about how real cold fusion is. And the amusing thing about his cold fusion phenomenon is non-existing. That's what I'm gonna explain to you. There's no such thing as cold fusion. Never has been, never will be. So how did these people discover it? It was on the front page of newspapers and now people are still doing it and all 300 of those people say I'm crazy, including the fellow who drew up this diagram whose book I stole it from. This is a primary fusion. Two kinds of nuclear energy. We're aware nuclear fusion where you take a huge atom like uranium and then split some apart into two equally almost two very radioactive elements and they give off energy and the process and you have nuclear fusion. Nuclear fusion you take two very small atoms, protons and the hydrogen atoms, which are one proton or deuteron which is a heavy form of hydrogen which is a proton and a neutron. And you fuse them together. And in the process, you get more energy out. And in Einstein it was mc squared. Energy is mass times speed of light squared because the final end product is not as heavy as the two original products. What's released is energy. So this is like basic prime of nuclear fusion. It takes place in the sun. Takes place under extraordinary power. And the reason being, these are my favorite charts, forces at work and fusion facts. If you start off with the deuteron, one proton and one neutron, they're both positively charged. So they repel each other by electromagnetism and they attract each other by the strong force. The strong force is very strong but it's very, very short ranged. So you've got these two things that from far apart are repelling each other and don't wanna get together and close together. They get close enough, the strong force will take over and they'll form together in the fuse. So what happens in the sun is you've got extraordinary heat and pressure. This thing's zinging around and when they smashed into each other, there's enough energy there pushing close enough for the strong force to fuse them together. So how close did they have to get? The fuse and the answer is. Don't read. The answer is 0.0001 nanometers. A nanometer is a billionth of a meter. So they have to get 0.0001 billion for meter together to fuse and how close is this? And the answer is very close. Deuterium gas, which is D2 which is two of these deuterons locked together. They're separated by distance 0.07 nanometers. What you can see is about 740 times this distance and the palladium lattice like cold fusion. I forgot to explain what cold fusion is. It's because I'm operating full stomach. How this thing worked. We're back to cold fusion. You've got water, you've got palladium electrode and a platinum electrode. You put a current in and the heavy water which is made the platinum and hydrogen breaks up. And the deuterium is sucked into the palladium lattice and Pons and Fleischmann theorizing this palladium lattice with such extraordinary impression that you push it together to that 0.0001 nanometers to get fusion. Unfortunately deuterium gas is 0.074 nanometers and a palladium lattice, all that cold fusion. The deuterons are separated by approximately 0.3 nanometers which is four times greater than the separation due to bass and 30,000 times greater than the separation that's certainly confusion. So Stan Pons and Martin Fleischmann, our friends from Utah, were saying that you get fusion but what's a known fact is that once you get inside the palladium lattice, there's still 30,000 times greater than the separation necessarily. This by the way is basic nuclear physics which is very well established. So how likely is fusion in current circumstances in this palladium lattice? And the answer is not very. The probability of two deuterons fusing spontaneously and separated by distance equal 0.074 nanometers which is the distance there at. The deuterium gas is 10th to minus 64 fusions per second per molecule. So this was a calculation done by fellow in Caltech. What I'm saying is deuterium gas, using everything we know about nuclear fusion. If you just expected these things to fuse spontaneously, you would get this number, which I'll explain in a second and deuterons sit closer together in deuterium gas and the palladium lattice. So what does this mean? This number 10th to minus 64 per second. It means that the sun is made entirely out of deuterium gas. There would be one fusion event per year. So how does this fusion rate have to increasingly explain contemplations results? Contemplation plan that they were getting noticeable amount of nuclear energy out of these cells. And the answer is a lot. The cold fusion cells would have to generate 10 to 12 fusions per second. The answer is that requires an enhancement 54. So what I've given you in this short course of physics is the fact that what Pons applies for climate was 54 orders of magnitude greater than what you can explain by everything we know about nuclear physics. Still more of fusion facts. How big is 54 orders of magnitude? The answer is very big. First of all, there's a number. A second and the seldom. which is kind of meaningless, but you might wanna know that there is a number 54. By the way 10 followed by 53 zeros. If you have a really good dictionary, like an old Websters. Not the recipient psyllium of a number of numbers. The difference between the diameter for proton, very small thing and the diameter of the universe is only 41 orders of magnitude. Give you an idea of how many 54 does a magnitude is. The difference between the speed of a snail and the speed of light is only 12 to 13 orders of magnitude, depending on the snail. I was assuming that there are probably like South African snails much faster. The say they have big horns. So why did contemplation believe that they've used their fusion cell theoretically speaking. 'Cause we now work at. You've got these two scientists, reputable scientists, they call a press conference backed by the university of Utah and the president. They're claiming something as 54 magnitude of wave and everything you know about nuclear physics. So why do they believe it? They believe that the pressure induced inside the platinum was 10th to the 27th diamespheres. They said these and they wrote these. It's a billion, billion, billion times the atmospheric pressure at the surface. 10 million billion times greater than the pressure at the center of the sun. What they did is they had to figure out something called deuterium gas. I never spent three years in this book. I still don't understand the gas today. But I do know is that when they got an answer 10 to 27 atmospheres. It's a concept similar to pressure and it's light pressure in some circumstances and unlike pressure and other circumstances when they figured it out and they got 10 to 27th atmosphere's a trillion, trillion, trillion times of pressure in the center of the earth. They should have said to themselves we're misusing this equation. But instead they decided they really were getting a pressure this grade inside the electro which is sort of interesting 'cause if you think about every action has an equal and opposite reaction and think if I could get a pressure that great. Trillion trillion, trillion, tons of pressure maybe explode or something but they just thought what we're getting here is fusion. And they testified to this number in Congress and it's wrong by 10 to 23rd orders of magnitude and a fellow from Lawrence Livermore Laboratory point out that line about something in Congress as far as by 22 orders of magnitude is probably a record in Congress. For which my comment is depending on what Nobel lying to Congress these days, that scientist from Livermore. if you wanna figure out what the pressure is inside the palladium lattice, the easiest way to do it is you stick the lattice in a canister and you pump deuterium gas into the canister and when the deuterium gas is saturated, you can't pump anymore and it's saturated inside the palladium and we see what the pressure you're pumping at. It happens to be 15,000 atmospheres which is a lot, but it's not enough to produce nuclear fusion. Well, we had two scientists, again, 54 does a magnitude wave from everything you know about nuclear physics. They throw this press conference. That's a theoretical result. And they give evidence for nuclear fusion. They say they get heat out in watts. That means they pump in a certain amount of energy into their cell that got plugged into the wall and it's going into the electrodes and they're measuring the temperature coming out. The temperature of the cell and they figure that they're getting so much heat out, convert that to energy and they show this chart in their paper. This is generation of excess ectropion palladium per capita expressed as a percentage of breakeven values. And people saw this chart and they said this is excess heating percentage of breakeven. Breakeven is at the point where they're getting as much energy out of their cells are pumping into their cell. And they saw these numbers 286% of breakeven 1224% of breakeven. That's 12 times as much energy coming out of the cell that's going into the cell. This is eight times much energy coming out of the cell that we are putting into the cell. And a lot of chemist who really cared about this said, Well, gosh, that's really impressive. You put in this energy and this is what you get out. And then they look to try and figure out what these numbers actually meant to send you base breakeven based on total energy supply from the sun and electrical reactions. Does anyone understand what that means? Is there a chemist in the house? Nobody in America understood what that meant. These numbers convinced the world that cold fusion was real. At least the chemistry. When it turned out to me was that they never did the experiments. They calculated what would happen if they had a perfect cell. The laws of thermodynamics didn't hold and there was such a thing as free lunch. These were the numbers and nobody knew this. Anyway, nobody knew this. That you can be testified in Congress a month later and people say they actually testify that they were hypothetical numbers believed in such a way the noble understand it. People at the University of Utah backed these science. Like the Dean of the School of Natural Science became the first head of the National Cold Fusion who didn't know that they never did an experiment under state-based plan until four or five months afterwards. At which point he didn't believe the people who told him. One fellow man Lewis, chemist at Caltech figured this out. And he called a friend of his Chuck Mark who's at Texas and M. Chuck was a good friend of Sam consequent placement. They use out playing basketball at Pasadena shooting hoops When it struck him that what they talked about was a hypothetical experiment. And he called Chuck Mark. And he said, \"Chuck, they didn't do the experiments.\" Chuck was like \"are you crazy? \"Of course they didn't. \"That's why we're doing this. \"That's why we're trying to replicate this. \"They said they couldn't done it. \"So we tried to do the experiment \"that described it to possible.\" And he said, \"call Stan and ask him if he did it.\" And Chuck called Stan Pons. And he says, \"did you do the experiment?\" and said \"Well, we did all the experience.\" And asked, \"did you measure those numbers?\" And Stan hanged up on him He was the primary evidence for cold fusion for chemists. They also said they got treated and out of their cells if you fuse two deuterons, one of the major reactions should be it should get a lot of deuterium out. In fact, you should get the watts of heat. This is deuterons of this deuterium. You should get 1.5 times 10 to the 12th deuterium atoms. And they reported that they got a 1 billion deuterium atoms a hundred DPM per bale, which turned out to be less than the natural concentration of deuterium on heavy water. Deuterium is even heavier form of hydrogen. They didn't realize this 'cause this number here was so big that they thought they had discovered something. But when you buy heavy water from nuclear power plants, we simply have power plants that sell deuterium much as 50 times more deuterium is what Pons and Fleischmann discovered. They also said they got neutrons. if you have to do two deuterons fuse, you can get helium three plus a neutron, which case wherever you heat, you should get two times 10 to 12 neutrons per second. and many scientists who times 10th to 12th, it's two trillion neutrons per second. Excuse me. This world thinks it's slow. Many scientists who heard they were claiming nuclear fusion and saw them on television said but there's something wrong with these people. How could they be claiming nuclear fusion test? 'Cause there's still a lie. 'Cause if you're generating a trillion neutrons per second as lethal radiation. They said they were getting 40,000 deuterons per second. This was in their paper. They also said they had a detector efficiency of 0.0024 where you measure neutrons. And they have the new Trump Geiger pounds in thee old movies said, instead of rattling they count how many neutrons. And when you figure it out, you can backtrack. They said they got 40,000 neutrons per second. but they had an efficiency but they were only seeing, they said that 24 for every 10,000 neutrons that came out. And so you figured that out. What it meant is that they were seeing six neutrons a minute. And the detector by the cell. It took the detective 600 trucks a second a minute. And they took the detective the other side of the room and they count two neutrons, which if you don't know anything about neutron detection, it also might sound mildly interesting, but it turned out the protector they use was sensitive to humidity and heat and they take the detector, they put it by the cell, which is bubbling, water and steam is coming and they would count 60 times a second. And they would walk across the room where there was no steam and they world only count. Two what they were doing was note that detector was noticing the fact that they were putting it over a boiling water. In any case, it should have detected one trillion neutrons per second. So all this again this is their experimental evidence for cold fusion. The key evidence as far as physicists were concerned, something called gamma rays. And let's see what we can find. We don't need that. We should be getting a trillion neutrons per second. A lot of these neutrons will interact with the water in this bag. When they interact in the water, they'll interact with the hydrogen atom. And that will give off a gamma. And it always gives off a gamma ray exactly the same energy which has to be 2.22 million nanometers and a gamma ray is like a photon. It's part of a light. It's very high energy and they're all around us. There are gamma rays coming out of the glass and the light bulb. There's gamma rays coming up concrete. There's a lot of elements in nature that are mildly radio active and make gamma rays. But if there's cells in gamma rays who would admit neutrons, the neutrons would interact in the water. The water would admit a gamma Ray of 2.45 million electron volts. And this was like a fact of life. Contemplation knew this actually 2.22 electron volts. And they put this chart in their paper. This was figure one. A lot of physicists saw this and said there must be something like cold fusion because they see gamma rays. So the chart is they have another little detector like a Geiger counter and it's picking up gamma rays and saying, we see none at 2000 million electronic votes, none at 2100 and you get to 2000,2100, we start seeing that we get a lot of them and then it goes a little lower. And this was very progressive. Physicists looked at this and I said, \"unless we get a gamma ray.\" And then a few more said, \"wait a minute. \"That's not a gamma ray spectrum. It's an interesting peak, but it's not a gamma ray spectrum but it turns out, if you talk to enough physicists who knew this work that this is a gamma ray spectrum. And that there all these gamma rays like I said, occurring all around us that are naturally radioactive elements. Let's see. Potassium 40, which is in grams. And so do you set up a detector in this room and you'd get the spectrum, you can see gamma rays coming out of exactly these energy of potassium 40. And then there's bismuth 214 and thallium 208 which is in concrete. You'd see this little peak from thallium 208. So what happened is this fellow at MIT, Richard Brian beyond kind of fiery Italian businesses. The boat to the hammer race, he's obsessed with them. And he saw this original chart and he said, well if they see amaries, this is my business I'm gonna find out all about it. And he studied it. And he said, that's not a gamma ray. This is a gamma ray spectrum. So one of the things he did is he had a student look at the old tapes on TV on supplies from experiment when they had the press conference. And they noticed on the TV, when they pan around the laboratory, there was a gamma ray spectrum from one of the TV monitors. A real one like this. So they got ahold of the videotapes and they blew it up. They looked at the gamma ray spectrum and they realized that where there should be a peak at 2.22 MEV which is right here. And they were getting neutrons and gamma rays there wasn't one. Then they did their own experiment where they actually put a little neutron source inside a glass of water to prove that there Wasn't many neutrons, the way the detective was set up and see it. And they wrote to nature. They said, contemplation, don't see. And this why. Pons applies for the road back then. So it was a scoundrel. I gave you some evidence for gamma rays and still that show the spectrum. Pons wrote another letter to nature, provoking them even more. Finally Pons and Fleischmann wrote back one last time. And now they showed this spectrum and they said, this is proof. This is the real spectrum. This is their spectrum. They really do see gamma rays. And here's the alley of the potassium 40 peak. And they said, here's the peak for their gamma rays at 2.22 MEV. And this, they identified as I don't know what? And every physicist who looked at this said, these spikes here. This is what happens when you've got bad gamma rays. These are noise from the amplifier. And by this time the world had read this back and forth in nature. And it's pretty obvious. In fact, I actually talked to the guy who did this work with Pons and Fleischmann. And he said, \"what happened was I hadn't been detected \"but I never had the guts to tell standard.\" So got slow progression. Theories put forward as a magnitude away from everything we know about physics and no experiment. However, after they went public. After contemplation of claims and start with this thing which is essentially salvation was true. Nuclear fusion and a glass of water was limitless, inexhaustible pollution of fuel energy. Thousands of people started working on this experiment. Tens of thousands. If there's anyone who could get ahold of the glass and heavy water and palladium electrodes which got hard to find. As soon as they went public, palladium prices skyrocketed. That's all you need, heavy water, palladium and some platinum. Thousands of people started doing this experiment. And within weeks, even though it was 54 orders of magnitude away from everything we know about nuclear physics and Pons' collection had no evidence. On April 10th, Charles Martin, friend of Nate Lewis, the guy who called Stan, claimed that Chuck Martin is a great care. His two best friends in physics and chemistry are Stan Ponds, Nate Lewis and Caltech and what he doe when cold fusion breaks insisted chemists. His professional can be before front of the world. So we throw us together experiment. He puts up with two of the best caliber interests in the country. Calorimetry is measure are people who actually measure heat in and out of chemistry experiments. It's an archaic art. There about 10 people who do it in America. Contemplation, not two of them. And he gets scared with them. They put together a foolproof method of measuring how much heat goes into the cell, how much energy goes in and how much heat comes out. And on Friday night, they've been working for two weeks straight. Chuck was so paranoid about this. He wouldn't let the graduate students in the experiment. They washed all the dishes. April 8th at night, you start seeing more heat coming out of the cell. Full proof calorimetry. And he supposed to go to a birthday party in Austin. Right now as a conversation in Texas. He gets into the car, drives like everybody's birthday party, can't stand it, turns around, goes back to the laboratory, triple checks the experiment. The next morning they decide they're gonna write a paper. They write a paper on Saturday night, they call the editor of the journal, Electrical Analytical Chemistry. The next morning, Sunday morning they're still getting excess heat. They've got a foolproof calorimetry. We're seeing 80% more heat energy coming out than they're putting into it, The next morning, Sunday morning, they tracked down the PR man college station, Texas. And they said, we have press conferences. This is big. You've got the first confirmation cold fusion. And they hear that there are other people getting ready to go Public. Sunday afternoon, he calls up his buddy and Caltech is an excellent And they'd says, \"Chuck, you guys might controls. Pons' initial claim that you got to do some nuclear fusion. He picks up heavy water which is water with platinum instead of hydrogen and put it in the palladium. And you need the heavy water, you need the plate. And that's what gives nuclear fusion. One of the things some people were saying was, well you should do controls. You should run it with tap water. And if you don't get the fusion with tap water that maybe you've got something. But if you get what appears to be nuclear fusion with tap water also, then you know that you're just screwing up the experiment.`` There is no fusion with plain tap water. So Nate asks Chuck, if you don't control and Chuck says,\" well, I know.\" Chuck says, \" but we've got a press conference \"scheduled for eight o'clock tomorrow morning.\" And Nate says, \"do the experiment, do the controls. I'm gonna wake up at four o'clock California time. So I can call you at six o'clock your time to find out what happened when you ran the controls. So they run the controls, they run it with light water. They haven't slept for 48 hours and they get access to exactly what they shouldn't yet, they reduce infusion. So Chuck Martin who's now temporarily insane. Doesn't call it this buddy Louis. He calls Stan Pons. Can you touch the stand? Guess what some sells heat water too. and Stane said \"That's the big seat. We get fusion enlightenment. and also with the Department of Energy, Department of Defense The weird thing is this really happened. And if don't want live with this this will be your contribution and your share of the Nobel Prize. Six in the morning, Nate Lewis calls as he promises to do the controls. Chuck says, \"yeah it didn't work.\" what do you mean it didn't work? It didn't work. Eight o'clock in front of the press conference and they know they don't talk about the light water. 'Cause he's crazy. He's not totally. And he goes off and now the graduate students finally get to touch the experiment and the graduate students are smart guys. They were thinking fusion in clean water. So they start running another controls. You say another one that you was getting the palladium to reduce the pressure of the electrons. Then we should try with the gold electro. They take out the gold and they put in the carbon electrode to get excess heat. Within eight hours of going public. Not only are they on every TV station, radio station, every newspaper in the country, they know they were wrong. They were so careful in the school proof calorimeter that they put in an extra thermometer and this thermometer thermostat, they plugged it into the wall. It was electronic plugged in. They were getting like feedback. The monitor they're actually feeding in 80%, more energy than the cells through the thermometer, but they didn't know. And they were so excited and they had no sleep. But Chuck Martin convinced half the world that cold fusion was real. James Mahaffey, Georgia tech research, stupid slot the rest of the people, Georgia Tech Research Institute. Everyone said Georgia tech but GTRI has nothing to do with Georgia tech like in the same city. Mahaffe and his buddies are all nuclear engineers, cold fusion. They got excited like Chuck, Mark, got excited that they got palladium and they got heavy water and they borrowed these whole new trunk detectors. 20 years old, et cetera. They set up an experiment where you take the cold fusion cell and they put the neutron detector over it. And then you got this paraffin brick solid piece. Really isn't getting neutrons. You won't get bombarded. And three in the morning, he gets a call that they're getting a neutron signal and he goes in and he takes these 20 year old neutron detector and put behind the paraffin blocks. They have been sitting in front of the technic, ticking away like man, if it got here. They put it behind the paraffin blocks, which block the neutrons. Put it in front of the cell, goes crazy, they put it behind the blocks. They showed the people. Including the PR people from GTRI, the directors and the press conference or every newspaper in the country. The phone system blocks off as scientist calling to find out how they hit it. One of the calls is from Lawrence Livermore Laboratory and friends. They come on and start talking. They realize Livermore and GTRI did the exact same experiment. Exactly the paraffin bricks, the neutron detectors. What Livermore did was when they took the neutron detector to put it behind the paraffin bricks, they took it in their hands. GTRI was using such old neutron detector. They were afraid to break them. They kinda pick them up but the courts put it behind. A little more people realize that when they held off the detector and started firing like it was detecting neutrons. When they took their hands away, it would stop firing. I realize these old neutron detectors are not only humidity sense but they're heat sense. So you put it in front of the cell with the water bubbling up in the boiling water and it goes off. Put it behind the paraffin bricks. It stops half utilized. They realize two days later on the press conference that he screwed When his colleague told him about this conversation with Livermore, his comment was with dead and they actually get threw a press conference to announce a retraction. And when they retracted it, Mahaffey told me it was like throwing a hang hanging where you with a hanky. Curiously enough, I could go through all these. This is van Hayden and the universe question. While they're happy retracting those, the Wall Street Journal was covering cold fusion from the beginning. They thought it was their story. And they had missed out on ITC superconductors were discovered two years And the New York Times covered much better. So they wanted to recover cold fusion and do it best. And the Wall Street Journal was on it and they had one reporter German Bishop who was coming and faithfully getting it all right. Well, these guys retracted, retraction was a big story In every other paper, it was a half a paragraph at the end of the story about this fellow band name and this colleague Lou. The University of Washington said they discovered three. These guys are graduate students who took a cell and they put it under a mass spectrometer and mass spectrometry takes the attitude taking to the steam, coming out and look through it and divided up into hydrogen deuterium, helium atom at a time of massive one, two, three, four, five. And they saw atoms at the time of class five and six which they figured out how to be deteriorating. Proton, neutron deuterium which seven would be the 30 deuterium. Six would be 20 deuterium and five would be 10 deuterium. And they went to pubic. Wall Street Journal headline was graduate students fill a missing puzzle. And within an hour after they went public, the computer networks were full of physicists. Second messages from University of Washington saying these grad students screwed up what they found is not deuterium. But because the Wall Street Journal was biased in believing about cold fusion. The fact that somebody was retracting the discovery that they made two days earlier and claiming that had confirmed cold fusion was not a story. The fact that some two grad kids from the University of Washington prematurely claim confirmation was a story. Anyway, it went on like this. We haven't had like 10,000 people trying this experiment. And out of those 10,000, there were a handful of people who were bad enough to get it wrong. Robert was a very prestigious material scientist at Stanford university, was is the keyboard. Certain people criticize my folks 'cause they said, talk to candidate about scientists. Scientists are human. Anyway they come in all different shapes and sizes and talents and some are great, some are not so great and some are having personal problems and like the rest of us with personal problem they don't with their job. Huggins was a very prestigious material researchers. Career had fallen apart. He had been divorced. His famous father almost won a Nobel Prize had recently died. He'd gone from having a laboratory with a dozen postdocs and grad students to having a laboratory with none. He saw cold fusion as a salvation and jumped on it. And he was gonna do the comparison with the hiring of the physicist that people said you got to do this controls, light water, heavy water and tap water. And this was gonna be his contribution of cold fusion and he went with heavy water cell and tap water cell and heavy water cell became higher than tap water cell. And he threw a press conference and he also called the funding agents the very same day to show them. What he did know was that heavy water and light water are chemically different. Heavy water has a higher resistivity and lower conductivity than light water. So if you run the same electric current through heavy water, it heats up more than the light water. How did was it interest in cases? He convinced the people, you tell them this was right. Stanford put in patent applications convincing the University of Utah that they were been trying to steal from. Every time somebody showed him what was wrong with his experiment show up a month later at the next conference still quite a confirmation. Virtually the same transparency could have been a different experiment which some of the more skeptical members of the press said, Each one of these stories, each one of these confirmations is another example of very bad science of some sort or another. This was a tearing research who didn't know that effective protectors were sensitive to humidity. This was a couple of octogenarians at the university of Florida effect called cameo luminescence. That happens with look for trigger detectors. was a fellow, an opportunist at Texas saying there have been a very good reputation in chemistry who basically did. I couldn't even explain that ``half these experiments were pathetic that worked like sophomores in high school would have cold fusion. It's cold fusion. Vaquitas had a graduate student who was putting deuterium cells deuterium water or going the cell discovered deuterium. Storms in town, ed storms, storms to the wonderful stores and stores look like chocolate. And he had worked on the nuclear fusion program. Rocket program decided when cold fusion hit that he would do with. This guy is tall. Beautiful hair. It looks like it's back lit off. And he said, \"you told me that cold fusion was \"when you read the discovery when he was wrong.\" And they did this experiment where they bought paraffin from a local supermarket. They decided the way to test cold fusion was you had the blading as much through terrace as possible. And the way to do that with poisoned, some other chemicals, sulfur was what they were interested in. Is there some papers saying you could load the material if you use sulfur. So they bought wax at local supermarket. They filled it with it. They quarter melted it, softened it, did the palladium electrode into it, let it dry and then stuck in the cell and tried to run it and found out that you can't absorb any deuterium into a play in the trouble with got wax. So they discharged. They ran the current the other way to break the wax off. They let it float to the bottom and then they ran it for 10 days. And then they poured out the water and the wax, and fill it up with the water. And they measure self-abandonment tritium that they expected. And they went public with this. They never ran controls. They never checked to see if they compare weapons laboratory. Big story ladies and gentlemen. Now, while this was going on these people were confirming contemplation, collaborating with people against their will. They were trying to get General Electric to finance your research. Have you talk to Biden of the cold fusion. General Electric said they'll do it if they let the General Electric cameras check the cells and see if they're really getting out of excess heat. By now this is like July constipation are 50% excess heat. So the General Electric cameras come to you. They pick up a cell, kinda flies back Marshall airliner sell gingerly between his legs. And they're afraid to tell anyone that they've got potential hydrogen bonds. They take it back to Schenectady and they test it. And this is the result. Like I just put this down because it showed you the state of mind in Utah. Hugo Rossfield was the Dean who wasn't very good mathematician as a Dean of the College of Arts and Science. She became the first director of the National Cold Fusion. She is a very bright woman. I actually think it's one of the heroes of these story. Had to report to the Utah state legislature on what General Electric found. And in order for the Utah Legislature, let go of $5 million that they were thinking about giving to cold fusion, they did. And so he wrote, scientists, General Electric and log-in character study something here with ponds in this laboratory conclude that the basic calor metric theory of contemplation is correct. That shows that this energy parentheses. They have some concerns about the accuracy calibration that may register on preparation of the data. This correction amount of 15% that the data show significant excess energy. Therefore reproduce the experiments connected here paint the energy at about 15% level. That's indistinguishable from Zero. which means or QBO aside that the guy who is connected he studied the calorimetry techniques of consequential using to determine that they had excess energy. And they found that they were off by 15%. And so if you figure they're off by 50%. They're claiming 50% basically themselves have perfect balance. You go ahead trouble saying this? Because it was so bound up with this thing and he was so caught up in it and he had to give the Utah state legislature glowing recommendation to get the 5 million. And when I pointed this out to him a little while later, he said, I guess that wasn't my final anyway. So they did collaborate with General Electric to see if that will succeed out of themselves or not. 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protect us, he comes out and he finds absolutely nothing, Well, of course there was nothing. We were running in a special level, really boast that they wouldn't let you go for a sponsor. Pleasure to collaborate with Northbrook laboratories to do a study, looking for healing. By now you've given up on everything else. They were, maybe they were recovering healing. I won't go into the details they got. Okay. So the sales weren't admitting XSE. They weren't going to be trying to cameras. They weren't, they weren't doing anything. How does it enhance their belief in cold fusion and or wherever they were announced? Their belief in collaboration. This is one of my favorite charts when they went public March 23rd, nine, 1200% excess heat by July when the United was down about 15%. And now there's so few people doing it and say there's about 10%. You could see that. That's what that to Approach. The interesting thing is calorimetry really it's a very rough art and you can only mention about 10% accuracy. So people are claiming is a very limited. So what they could possibly detect would they're also inspection. Believe those people still believe in cold fusion is that nature bridge, this gap 54 orders of magnitude physics, the staff that's bigger than the distance between the proton the size of Janet burgers and gave you some effects. 10 times 53 orders of magnitude. You'd never see, they'd be insightful. This actually goes for a lot of science controversy. Now about electric fields. Probably read this book out by new Yorker writer public radio, Tim, please come here and cover up the fact that we're getting cancer to speak around. Things like this. And it's the same kind of thing. Power consumption. America has increased 300 fold since the turn of the section, but the cancer rates haven't changed. Okay? The power, the electromagnetic field levels are talking about are one 20th. The size of the electromagnetic field that we're in right now from Earth's magnetic field. But yet if you read these books they argued that they just can't answer that. If you use really high powered epidemiological you might almost see and we should pay our utility companies $2 billion. Oh, there's also Brazil. It's what I call a stop. Now, getting back, wandering back to explain why 300 people are still doing was a great canvas at the university of Texas is a great parents who was on part managing energy or went around Pell the laboratories and looked at all the experiments, contemplation Huggins Los Alamos, Texas, and everything came back. science pointed out to me that statistics applies to science experiments, as well as the scientists that if you imagine 10 centers, scientists jump off the cold fusion, I think, and I'll do this experiments. It's so cheap. You know, when my buddy Carlos movie, Nobel dreams playing particles with physics celebrate her that didn't exist. It was using a $200 million. Sellerator $40 million experiment. So there weren't a lot of people that jumped on the bandwagon, but with cold fusion 2000 bucks and 10,000 scientists do it and they fall into the distribution, you know the bell shaped curve, okay? Like IQ, this good scientists and some bad scientists and the great mass of actors. Now you assume that the say 9,800 do it right which is probably optimistic or 200 of us statistically speaking would be expected to do it wrong. And these would be the octogenarians like chefs out of university of Florida. You know, those desperate to regain their lost years like the Huggins and Stanford, you know, a few frauds a few chiefs, a few people who just diluted themselves on Chuck, Mark, basically the dregs of science and the talent of distribution for Lincoln. When they're all gonna fall. One side of the distribution and this is basically the infant. There's always going to be a scientist out there. Graduate students is going to say even 50 years from now what would this book and set it up and I'll get access heat out or is a neutron detector will start rattling. And instead of thinking how my highest screwed up which is what most scientists would think. Scott ran separate, looks like it's probably candid their reputation. This student will think my guy discovered cold fusion. So when you have in Japan that that conference is the tail of the distribution. Instead, you've got the world instead of just the American. And it sounds very cool to say that you've met these people, which I have to do. It's truly depressing. Some of these people are out there teaching students couple more. This is something called the waves, Scott which is the over riding philosophy of cold fusion. There's also typos variably. Some businesses can sell. I apologize. Blaise Pascal was a French politician being a Logitech century who actually left science to go with the theology and his wonderful book say he puts forth wages which is why God. And it basically goes that it's way up the gain and the loss about calling kids that God exists. But the success of your case if you win, you win everything. If you lose, you lose nothing. You're not hesitant that doesn't exist, but Pesco is if you believe in God, God exists. You're rewarded with an infinitive category. Lives are your infinite happy lives. And if you believe God exists, if it doesn't the risk is one life been a full life. So anytime that you're betting a finite odds, finite risk against an infinite benefit, people will pick that. And the university of Utah is deciding whether to go public or not. They said if cold fusion real it's worth the trillions of dollars. It's wealth of gold. How can we afford not to claim this stuff for our state? What if it's, let's say the odds of being right or one of a hundred one in a hundred versus trillion dollar payoff. What Steve physicist at Caltech is trying to decide whether to shoot down cold fusion in the American physical society. Meaning when did do it strongly. And he actually, he did, he went up and said that the cold fusion student conferences delusion placement, but before he did it, he said, you know I was thinking to myself like 99.9 9%. Sure. Well, if he's in Utah 99.9% sure. It's still one weighed against the trillion dollar payoff. I mean, if we went out to play the lottery and somebody said, you could bet, you know the answer to want again, to get you get paid a million dollars you sell your house, you're going to get paid and go get it. Very persuasive philosophy. Even the Japanese now are investing $25 million. Couple of years are saying, we have we need an energy source. We have no oil landlocked fusion. It's probably wrong. But what if it's a you throw together an experiment. You deal with all your risk. Is your reputation pay off? If it's real, does God exist? If yes, partner, this is the application forms report. The international cold fusion takes place December 6th. why there'll be people there that you It's convincing to me. I mean, this has been, you know, the nuclear physics or time it works. You look at something new on catalyze fusion which takes place in liquid hydrogen or whatever minus three sentences, very cold. And you know, you can make models of the sun or calmness of supernova based on everything we know about fusion that a hundred million degrees of works to think that this level of color, I mean, New York has a nice future, which has all the type of cold fusion has also been studied by people not smarter. And there are basic quantum physics reasons to believe that it will never be deficient as an energy source let alone the class. I mean, it's not as though you and you're saying, okay dude, you told me the gravitation has been dropped. Those become Einstein and reputation. But in the process that doesn't help us jump two feet in the air. We're still bound by the equals in a, over our square whatever it is. I mean, it'll change but it won't absorb everything we know now it won't change. I've got some sparkling This is my favorite part of the story I was living in Los Angeles. It was broken my publishers. And they said, do you want to do with cold fusion? It's controversial. It's story. It's like about dreams. I said, sure, take nine months. Most of the fans writes screenplays from Paris. So it doesn't take nine months. It takes me three years, the bank Dan long to tens of thousand dollars. And when it's over contemplation or living in France, being funded by a French company that owns the French subsidiary Toyota that makes mufflers for French and is supposed to be very happy. And some French, I mean, there's a moral here. Yes, I, I had several like 10 minute conversation with Fleischmann and pons part of the store. And you want to know if you're waiting for which should pause very paranoid. And his best friend in the world is his lawyer is an ambulance chase before her. And as soon as it, unless I promise to believe in ColdFusion, they wouldn't talk to me. And as soon as they sat with that, I didn't believe in cold fusion. All I got were letters from the lawyer threatening to really interest that he would threaten to Sue me. If I talked to his clients, he would threatened to Sue me. If I left anything out of the book that I might not have known because I didn't talk to us. We're still waiting About how much money is being spent in cold fusion. Well, online going down. So the Japanese are spending about three to 5 million a year. Every electric power research Institute is spending and the assets are tax dollars of way a grant 3 million a year. And the other two is estimated that $50 million was spent in America. And probably double that worldwide. You think maybe a hundred million dollars. I'm going to go back to your question again. Kind of why the reason I don't think I've ever I know why lots of public talks with the book. It's another lecture. It's a very fun moment. I know what they do when they were public. And I know that, like I said, there were 54 sabbatical two way from nuclear physics, which may or may not have changed on that arm. And they had a data. So what I do is I take them out of the equation and I guess explain the entire sociology of cold fusion, why it happened. I know why it happened. And I know that they, you know had they not made their life in France? I would not be here. You would not be asking the question whether or not cold fusion would exist. So it never crossed that line because it's just since it's though they've made this mistake and second I've had people asking, well sure you could exist. Sure you could exist because the culture the ones that does as long as you would assume that anything's possible, that anything's possible. But if it had not entered into the, of the culture because of this Reavis era that was perpetrated it never would've crossed her mind. And even had it across. Some of these miners have looked at it and said, I mean, to me is as good a definition of a functioning hospital as well. I have saved my career. Just like You, you explained this episode by. If you think there's any other explanations for this episode There were other, for instance, depress once it broke important to start the aid they were a little gullible to begin with president never in a position to write that in discovery plan with university of Utah's hogwash although one time fellow who shows up at Pope fusion so that the LA times headline new discovery should be taken with a grain of salt and that type of thing because it spell it from texts saying that totally other times, reporter that impacted trust. Yes. Can you tell somebody who lives near Hollywood trust? But what happened is all these people go public. And as the wall street journal is covered because money was a motivating factor for a lot of people being read them. The wall street journal was selling some texts at it's hogwash, but the wall street journal says it's real. That meant a lot. And the wall street journal reporter got into this mindset where any body became public, et cetera. This time you Caltech and MIT did 9,900 scientists but they quickly became, you know another prestigious school says it's toddler. So what, but any one of the 100 who came forward and said it was real. So these are graduate students with university of Washington can get it the wall street journal. I mean, today, you guys can do an experiment claim. That cold fusion was real afterwards. And I think it's a 50 50 shot. You get the walls. So anyone having a positive result and what their background was, what their reputation was what their Colorado state school of mines and engineering and wall street journal. So it became self-perpetuating. Now what happens is journalists tend to be on the bias for instance, contributing correspond for science not allowed to write about cold fusion anymore. That established a point of view. I'm also the world's leading expert but I think it's hogwash with reason. I can't write it down. What you'll see is somebody will do an article. There's a lot of articles that cover awkward silence cold fusion, style coat, for people who think it's hot for believers, we say it's real. And there's been a conspiracy to establish that. Just pressing it to the lay public for one, for the other. It's obviously according costs and they should expect 30 million Congress to get it hashed out with nobody. You know, the public doesn't see that the four cynics come from 99.9 9% of the scientific community and the four believers come out of the finding people. So there's this constant balance. It still goes on, keeps it alive. And there's this another effective journalism which is joining us can only do stories where, you know dog bites store. So first you see called future stories and you see the cold fusions dead stories that you see the cold fusions top stories that you can write ColdFusion to stay afterwards stories. You see the same thing. Again, a lot of social phenomenon candidates three years ago if you looked up the bookstores, you would say the course is a conspiracy. Of course there was five because every book in the bookstore was a conspiracy because the people had written books 10 years ago when the reporters who had looked at it said, well there wasn't a conspiracy. They can't write the books. You know, nobody's going to find it. So you see first he's dead. There's no conspiracy. Maybe there's a conspiracy because now finally you get the town. The distribution of the only books left are conspiracy books. It was the only people pick their books published and Oliver stone, pigs, that to new Heights. And then you get a book out two years later that says there's no conspiracy afterall case closed. And it's a bestseller seller because now you can write it to film in the spirits. It's sort of it's, it's like a natural system first to get a peak and then it goes down and it's just awesome. You know, if you, if you're optimistic if you're pessimistic, it'll be there forever. I noticed you make a number of strong statements about people. I'm curious about any legal difficulties you have as a consequence Legal readings, the debate is are these people public figures. And I was a graduate student who despite to sell Texas a and M course to a bottle of public figure is physicist. The university of Arizona, who I spent the page demolishing figure. And the answer is public comment. The law seems to be the public controversy. That is a public failure. So the definition of public failures, which is total disregard for the truth. So basically as long as they need to report it pretty safe the publisher doesn't want to get paid. They will pay my help, pay the legal fees but they don't even they don't even want to get anyone when all of the editors So far I've had no problems. I don't expect. There were a few people I thought I would be interested in suing because they wouldn't think that they should have characters to be treated any less. But in virtually every case, it's better people even people who might think they have reason to they have sour practice, but basically as long as the reporting center and in one case like there's a fellow Craig who plays a crucial role Steve Jones is a very good doubt. Siara Morgan scientist comes across like father-in-law Katie. She looks like Katie talks like follicle Katie. He says things like, I believe that the gold rolls stupid to be true which is what happened. And he had black fellas. Who's a physicist at the university of Arizona where the worst part of the page I can call people up and they would be normally very reticent to say bad things about colleagues and people just jumped down. And I couldn't understand where Phillips is important because there's involved with Jones was important that they all had input forcing the so-called fusion. And I spent two months just trying to get an understanding and talk to them about people. I talked to me that was a Soviet theorist. I tracked down a fellow named who collaborate. I think it was his advisor in graduate school. I got to the point where I have to write a book about cold fusion, had to talk about that. I can't get anyone to say this is how I introduced myself and the other side. So after talking to say 30 scientists, all on one curse who I can play a crucial role, however, small I can say what I want to say. I don't Instagram house lawyers a lot, or one of the musics. The book is because each character who turned out to be complex it would add another isolated example, cautionary tale. What's the it's, it's a road test case study of what happens when you read an ambition over power or a caution that every site that had is funding. It's tighter and catheter people are going to be more tempted to go public and not do the checks and be as careful as they should be. I think every graduate student sub-contracts conflict of interest here. I think every student who goes into any experiment the subject should be forced to read this book by the cover price. We all would like your quintessential get rich quick scheme. Pods of pleasure. A couple of guys I never seen a big dip to actually understand what happened. I think there were big things in a sense that there were victims in a way somebody who's con con victim kind of said you can't count reading their hearts. And contemplation particularly had read in his heart and he wanted it too badly. 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