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Right. So that all the veterans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1671.87,1675.23"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. By the time I left, I don't know these","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1675.23,1678.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"figures, but it must have been up to ten or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1678.71,1681.56"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fifteen thousand. Very fast growth for big housing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1681.56,1685.88"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"crunch. Oh like that. But oh I forgot to mention","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1685.88,1690.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by the let's see when did we move. We moved back","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1690.02,1695.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"into the dorms and probably spring of forty five","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1696.53,1701.53"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I moved into virtual I and several of my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1702.71,1707.71"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"friends from Theta Chi and then the second year we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1707.93,1711.32"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all became advisors and stayed on average. Then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1711.32,1715.22"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the next year I moved down. So I was a confirmed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1715.22,1718.9"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"non sorority type. Anyway, I'll agree with you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1719.03,1724.03"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anyway. Well I had good friends who were too. But.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963#t=1724.46,1727.61"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158963/transcript/36759/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But. 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This is such a sensitive record. I've been really pleased with it and I'm catching my voice. So April 14th, 1998, interview with Dr. Berlin making my middle name. OK, I'll go ahead and get started. And I know you from Carroll, Iowa. And I was just wondering if you like to talk a little bit about your family and what your family life is really. My father took his first appointment at school superintendent in Terell shortly after he and my mother were married and I was born at home on November 8th. Nineteen twenty six. And my mother's sister, who was a nurse, and my mother's mother, whom I knew as my grandmother, actually her foster mother was and were in attendance to take care of me. So that was maybe unusual, not then, but for now anyway. And so then I grew up in a very small town environment. My father was school superintendent and my mother did all the music I wrote for the newspaper, the local, not the town newspaper, the local area newspaper, which I think was in Spencer probably. And I was almost an only child until my brother was born when I was five years old, just before he was born on September twenty eighth and my birthday's November eight. So I didn't start school that year because my father was a school superintendent and I would not have been old enough until November. And he was very strict about he didn't start school ahead of time. I think that was the thing that could really ruin you for life. But we usually had two women teachers rent rooms in our home. We had large blocks of our house on the corner and a big yard, big garden, palm trees, lovely sort of idyllic setting, I think, now. And so I attended most of the school functions with my parents that weren't just strictly adult ball games, plays, musical events, box lunches, winding the maypole, all kinds of things that they used to do. And I also spent a fair bit of time with the teachers that bloomed in our home because my parents were doing a lot of evening functions and they would take care of me and I would get be allowed to go to their room and talk with them and so on. So then in those days, they didn't pay school teachers during the summer. So my father did a variety of things. And one summer I remember our family and his brother and his family went to Lake Okoboji to what was then called Maywood, and they ran the gas station there to support us during the summer. And that was a really great time for me. And I was about six there. And I guess and I helped take care of my little brother and I learned to swim sort of by myself and really idyllic. Then other summers we spent in the Northeast, I was with my grandparents and my father's family on the farm, and I learned to feed the chickens, chase the cows, run from the geese and things like this. Also really lovely. And in the evening, we lay out in the lawn and watch the stars. And my father's two sisters were married at that time and spent a lot of time with me playing the piano, singing and so on. So it was really a lovely time and we didn't have a lot of money and didn't see it as it didn't matter. So that's sort of my early childhood. And I went to first and second grade there. And one thing I noticed, my mother kept great scrapbooks and she gave my brother and me a scrapbook and each of her grandchildren and has all these clippings. So I looked back when I was interested in writing sort of my little autobiography into the clippings from the Terrible Days. And she wrote this sort of little tome for the newspaper called The Wire and had all sorts of interesting things, but also in the local newspapers, they would print who was on the honor roll in first and second grades, little poems that the children had written. It wasn't just which team won, what basketball game and so forth. There was a lot of emphasis on intellectual achievement as well as artistic achievement. So I thought, you know, if we had a little more of that today, we might be better off anyway. So that was my. And when did you start school? I started school in nineteen thirty two. I get to the local I went to the local school first and second grade, had wonderful teachers and still have a picture of my first and second grade class. And those teachers were excellent. They sort of team taught way back then, the two first and second graders, although we had about three kids in each class and they would have three reading groups going at one time, you could move from the low to the median or the height of the median. It didn't matter. You did. Yeah, and I, I knew how to read and whatever by the time I went to school. So in a way I could have been bored, but I wasn't because they were very good doing extra activities and we did our music and didn't. Where did you go to third grade. I my father moved to Coon Rapids after my second grade and it's very near and not far from Ames. And there he was, school superintendent. Again, it was a somewhat bigger town, a lot better. Quite a lot of girls, very small, but it was a consolidated school district, Carol. So it had a wider area. But in Coon Rapids, it was the public school. His specialty was math. So he usually taught math. But when he went there, they had a girls basketball team that no coach. So he took on coaching the girls basketball team and they were very successful. We stayed there till I was a freshman in high school. By that time, they had gone to the state tournament several times and then shortly thereafter they were in the finals. One of my very good friends played basketball. She was very tall. I was very short. So basketball was that was not my thing. I tried it in junior high and decided that was not my thing. But we stayed there from my third grade through freshman in high school. So that was the longest place I lived, actually. And what kind of things did you like in grade school and junior high? We didn't really have science, but we had geography, reading, writing and arithmetic literature later, which I liked very much. Math, of course. I always liked and excelled in action, but we also had art music and I was always very interested in both art and music as well. So I was in all the musical groups, learned to play a couple instruments, took piano lessons, sang in small groups and chorus, which was a big thing in my high school, too. What instruments did you play? Well, when I was in Rapid City, we didn't have a really very regular band, but we had a band instructor who liked to play popular music. He was an older fellow. He and his daughter would go around to various small towns and play at afternoon celebrations or whatever. And so I learned to play the soprano saxophone there and went around with them, which is a lot of fun and piano. And that was all I learned there. Later I learned food and tried over a little bit. Didn't like the elbow? Well, no, I liked it, but it is difficult and you almost have to give up playing the flute saxophone because armatures so much so I play the clarinet and I still miss it occasionally. Not something I kept up with. So but it was very important when I was younger and I had a lot of very good friends there and was president in my freshman class. So when my father took a position at West Union in northeast Iowa, it was quite a quite a traumatic experience for me because I had so many. Is there and why did you decide to do that? Was it a step up? In a way, it was a county seat town, somewhat larger point that also I believe because his parents lived in the area and they were retired by then getting older and he needed to be closer. Also, my mother, actually, my mother was orphaned when she was like four or five years old. Her mother died a couple years after her youngest sister was born and her father to drink couldn't take care of the family. And she was adopted by a German couple close by reminding us my grandparents and they lived in Waterloo at this time. So it was a nice central location. Right. And they both grown up in Northeast. So I want to return where they grew up. And so but that was quite a number for me. And how did you do? How did you do that? Well, I immediately got involved in the same musical things. And and my mother talked me into going out for tryouts for a couple of plays, which I never really enjoyed that I did it to please. But the musical things were fine and I learned to play the flute and a flute quartet and trio and small groups and chorus and so forth. And then I had a couple of really good girlfriends there. And of course I was involved in church activities, Methodist Church and in rapids and in. Funny childhood. You all these things that you were doing. Yeah. It really was a community. Right. Feeling that I don't feel like I have now that I don't know either. It's very different now from what I remember when I was growing up. So I imagine well, I think it was of family, school and church oriented changes as you get older. So what kind of classes did you like in high school? My dad taught algebra, which was hard on me because I hated to take it from my own father, but I liked algebra. I took a correspondence course and trigonometry during the summer because they didn't offer it. And how did you how did you do that or what was it like? It was fine. I just I forget where it was from and answers to questions, did it send it in and so forth. It was kind of fun. So then I played a lot of tennis. It turned out in West Union. The school owned the house that the superintendent lived in. So it was we had a lovely house in Grand Rapids, the house, and was not very good. And I never liked it because it was right next to the football field. But the other good thing, it was right next to the tennis courts. So I played a lot of tennis. Did you continue that? I was. When I came to Iowa State to school, I continued to play tennis and then my brother, who five years younger, when he came here five years later, I was staying on as in graduate school, we played mixed doubles together, so I played for a lot. He still plays. I like to. I do. I don't play anymore. When we were in Los Alamos, you never could find a court. And I was always busy with the kids and so forth and so on. Now that I'm in Oakland, I go to the swim and tennis club half a block. I could always play tennis, but my husband's knees don't take it anymore and I'm not sure mine do after a while. I sprained my ankle last summer playing tennis and after a while your body just kind of doesn't want to do it. But my brother still plays all the time. He's in Oklahoma, OK? And he said, Oh yes, we're talking about high school. So we got up. And so how do you always know you were going to go to Iowa State or did you look at other schools? I really wanted to go to Iowa State for some reason. And I suppose it's because we lived fairly near here and kind of the choices for me, my parents both went from what they had, which is a very small school, and I knew I didn't want to go there. But now I've been back to visit. They've really done it. Yeah, yeah. But in those days when I was ready to go to college, it was sort of marginal, actually. But anyway, so I either thought about University of Iowa or Iowa State and I think I chose. I Iowa State, because it was a little more science oriented and I couldn't decide whether I wanted to major in math or applied art, and I had taken art lessons along with the music and so on, and I decided, well, I'll try it and see what it's like and see what it's like or always be sorry. So when I came here, then it became obvious that chemistry was what I liked. And before we talk about the fact, do you need some water? Yeah, I do. You've gotten to Iowa State, and before we talk about Milenio or but I was wondering what it was like to live away from home. Oh, well, I started Iowa State in 1944. I graduated as valedictorian in my class together with the school board president's son, which is kind of entertaining. We tried and we had the highest grade averages ever recorded there. So but I thought it was kind of strange, the two of us. And I remember I'm going back to school, but I remember my high school graduation because my piano teacher and I play the two piano duet, and I was so thrilled to be able to do that. Yeah. Anyway, so during that summer, I had a job at the local bank working for eighty five dollars a month. Wow. Before that I had worked in the local restaurant, the best restaurant in town, for seven dollars a week, ten cents an hour. And a big tip on Sunday would be ten cents for sounds incredible. Now is totally it was pretty incredible even then, but it was fun and gave me a chance to, to get out and socialize. All the kids went there and you learn to deal with pride and I earn some money which is important. And I bought war bonds with it. And I thought that was the worst investment I ever made, because at that time, you know, I needed the money more of them than I did 10 years later when they matured. Anyway, everybody was everybody was doing and it was patriotic. But anyhow, so then in the fall, I went away to Iowa State and I think I wrote down with somebody else. And I remember my mother crying when I left and I thought, was she crying? I could hardly wait to go. Why is she crying? I'm dying to get away and go to college. So when I got here, my cousin and I room together. Well, actually, when we started the V12 program, we had the dormitories occupied and other training programs. So we started out living in the fraternity houses. We lived in Theta Chi fraternity and I still had several good friends from those days. We had a sleeping porch where we all slept and we played various tricks on each other, like short cleaning and putting things in the beds of our mothers would send their whole sugar ration to us. So we had sort of had a party every night, not every night, but it seemed many nights. And in those days, undergraduate girls had to be in at eight thirty. Can you believe, you know, during the week we had been at eight thirty. So what were we going to do except eat and study? You know, so we did study, we had study hours, and then we would get together and eat all the goodies our parents would send us. And I gained probably 10 or 15 pounds at first. The freshman ten. Yeah. And even my German grandmother, who was always trying to set me up, thought I was just a little too heavy when I came home at Thanksgiving. But anyway, it was great. I love being at college. I love more stimulation, more interaction, things to learn about, things to learn about. Even though I started out in applied art and found that I didn't like applied art, I had no talent for it. And the chemistry course, I had to take a standard format French course with only the women have to take that. Or did men and women take that together that the home criminal course was just for it was just for homework. And and so I had to take it. I had to take history. I test it out of English. So I was in a creative writing class instead. That was a marvelous course. But I sweat blood over that course because I'm not a creative writer in the sense of thinking of things from whole cloth. But I learned a lot and I would get up in the middle of the night and write my creative writing things. But so anyhow, I found out that chemistry was really be what really I really liked. And I. Believe that I was lucky that I had to take the home chemistry course because Professor Nailer somehow just struck a chord with me and it seems chemistry seems like the most logical science. You could see where it was going, how things went together. Probably if I'd taken the regular chemistry course, I wouldn't have felt that one. And she was not a mentor in the sense that we talk about, because I don't think she even knew who I was. Just the way she peaked your interest in the subject. It was the way she taught it. And at the time, I don't think she realized. And I've since thought. When I teach, sometimes you'll think, well, I'm not getting through to anybody. Then you'll get to know years, couple of years later somebody saying, you really you really turned me on. It meant a lot. And I thought from that experience, I thought how important it is. The professors that teach the freshmen it's right. They have more of and they have more of an impact probably than any other. Well, it can happen at any level, but still. I guess so anyway. So after my second quarter, I went to my applied art advisor and said, I want to switch to chemistry. And she said, Are you sure? Absolutely. She said, well, I'm not sure chemistry is a suitable profession for a woman. And I said, well, I think it is my freshman chemistry teacher at the moment. And both these women work in the old sense spinsters. But when I decided to change, I decided I was not going to be the spinster guy. I still remembered from grade school, eighth grade literature, we read biographies of Marie Curie and other people. And I remembered she worked with her husband in the lab. She had two lovely daughters, one of whom he spoke at Iowa State. While I was a real, I think either my junior senior or my year after she'd probably won the Nobel Prize. Oh. Oh. The other journalists, OK, and writer. And she has written some marvelous books, if you have a chance. This is the side of journey among lawyers. Have you ever heard of that? No, I don't. It's a marvelous book. She was a war correspondent. She came to America and. She signed up to be a war correspondent. Somebody I forget exactly who financed her and her travels. Just incredible. She also plays the piano and she was a piano, she she was very gifted, totally different from her sister, but still an amazing woman. She's still alive, I believe. And she married a diplomat and still lives in New York City. And I had a chance to talk with Helene Irene's daughter. Right, because she visited Berkeley last spring. And I asked her is she's still alive? And so and she said, yes, she's in her 80s. Isn't that interesting? But anyway. But so you would read about Madame Curie. So I thought she was there and do it. You know, it seems reasonable. I'm surprised. One of the questions that I want to get back to the impact of World War Two on you and on your education. And I'm surprised that they of course, I guess the war was drawing to a close. I would think they would have encouraged you to go into chemistry for the war effort. But, well, I think the chemistry department would have but not be applied in a different perspective, a different perspective on life. And were women who weren't interested, particularly in science? I think so. But being here during the war, I think did make a difference in the sense that once I switched to chemistry, I was still typically the only woman in my class. But let's see, I switched in the spring of 45 and I was reading my diary the other day and I kept a diary to college. I later decided not to if you want that diary someday. Right. The trouble is, I wrote it in pencil. I would send it and it's not very legible. Oh, I see that photocopy. But it might. But anyway, I had an entry for May 8th, 1945 that says Heard President Truman and Churchill announced German surrender, had convocation at 1:00 p.m. in the Great Hall, worked all afternoon headbang, went to Science Club T, they gave us certificate of scholarship, went to choir, then to the church service, got me got a letter from mother and studied all. You know how he does, but it's that sort of started changing things for us. And then in August 6th, of course, we got word that I was home then for the summer working thing and we got word that we use the first atom bomb against Japan. And my statement in my diary is really funny. I believe the secret of releasing atomic energy will revolutionize the world. I think. Well, why do you pronounce that? But, you know, so I thought, well, it didn't take a lot of stuff rather than out. In retrospect, it doesn't. But at the time I guess it was. But anyway, then veterans started coming back. Right. And how did that impact on you at college? It impacted them as much as they were pretty tough competition, I guess, you know, because they came back, they knew what they wanted to do. They were eager to get on with their lives and so forth. So it changed things quite a bit. And then a lot of married couples came back to school and changed the social scene and changed it quite a lot. And of course, about that time, Iowa State, which had been a small college, I guess when I started, it must've been thirty five hundred four thousand started the big growth spurt. Right. So that all the veterans. Right. By the time I left, I don't know these figures, but it must have been up to ten or fifteen thousand. Very fast growth for big housing crunch. Oh like that. But oh I forgot to mention by the let's see when did we move. We moved back into the dorms and probably spring of forty five and I moved into virtual I and several of my friends from Theta Chi and then the second year we all became advisors and stayed on average. Then the next year I moved down. So I was a confirmed non sorority type. Anyway, I'll agree with you anyway. Well I had good friends who were too. But. But. 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But actually what really changed me was my next big career move was the spring of my junior year. The Institute for Atomic Research advertised for two summer research assistants, undergrad research assistants for the institute. And so I sort of debated whether I dared apply and my professors said, yes, yes, yes, apply. So I did. And I was selected and I started working with Professor Don Martin. And my first job, he interviewed me and said, well, would you be willing to help me make Geiger counters for detecting radioactivity? And so on? I said I'd love to. And I was so thrilled because they were going to pay me for doing something or doing something I wanted to do anyway. I told them I'd worked in the dorm waiting tables and I had a stint writing history papers because I loved history and then had it standing over me, taking notes for Professor Hoover and retired at almost every turn. So when I actually got a paying job, I've been paid eighty five dollars in the bank for the summer. I got a paying job at one hundred and seventy dollars per month. In the summer I was in seventh heaven, so I would describe Floras. I think so. Anyway, my first job was splitting Mike up for the windows of these towers and then we would anneal the castles, Topfer Castles just right and put them together and I would test them to see if they worked and how well they worked. So we had what's called a counting room where we assayed radioactivity. So after doing that during the summer and then part time during the school year, I decided I definitely wanted to be a nuclear chemist and radio chemist, which again was reinforced by my Madame Curie syndrome. And so Professor Martin said, well, we became very, very good friends and said, you really must go on to graduate school. And I said, well, OK. And he said, you can go to Berkeley or Caltech or forever. I'll write you recommendations. And I thought it over and I said, I don't really think I want to leave. I'd rather stay here. The 68 Amoebae Synchrotron was planned for them. And I said, I'd like to stay here and do research, which is a little unusual, except in that field where there are so few places that you could actually do it. So he said, OK, he's happy to have me as a student. So I started in the fall of forty eight and right after I graduated essentially, and I guess in the fall of forty eight, I took a statistics class from him and the standard graduate classes. And in statistics class, a young man appeared and sat behind me in statistics class who turns out to be my now husband. So do that on purpose, behind, you know, probably I was the only. You're also know that we're to talk about this. I take that back by then, the young woman from Macalester in Saint Paul Powers had entered school in. You ought to get her to come to think of it. She she's she was in nuclear chemistry also. So there were two of us. Wow. That's probably pretty rare for that was rare for any time. Even even now. Yeah. Yes. So anyway, we had met by then because she also had an appointment with Dr. Lloyd and in those days at the institute labs were down there through the door. One hundred and the old chemistry building, you go through this class into this classified area. So I got my clearance when I. My parents, when I started in forty seven, so then we were down there sort of in adjacent across the hall laboratories and I started to say in statistics class, Marvin Hoffman sat down behind me and he had just gotten out of the Navy and spent a year at the cyclotron institute at the University of Chicago. And he is the man he was working for is that you must go back to graduate school. He had been a chemistry major and is Professor Fred Singer there said I can get you into Iowa State even though you've been a chemistry major and you ought to study physics. And so he fully agreed that he wanted to study physics instead of chemistry because he got a lot of training in the Navy and electronics. And so anyway, so that was the beginning of our friendship. And let's see. So then I started working on my thesis research and made plans to use the synchrotron when it came online to do for the nuclear reactions, which was the subject of my thesis. And Marvin ended up working with Professor L. Jackson Laslett to begin with. And Laslett was a student of EO Lawrence at Berkeley. And so the thing sort of is it's a small community and everybody knows everybody. But he went on leave to England, I believe, and Professor Dan Marino came here, I think is his first appointment as professor. And so he took over advising Marvin. And so anyway, that was a nice relationship because Marvin was working on the synchrotron. And the next year when things got going, if I needed the radiation, I we would go out there together and even just do it and just do it. If he needed chemistry done on something, I go out there and do it. And I complimented each on a lot of ways, you know, so that was very nice. And it turned out to be very good that I decided to stay here because in two years later, my father died of a heart attack. And so then that was really hard on that. So anyway, it was it was a complete surprise. Told me he had just been the males a few months before because he thought he didn't feel right. I said, no, nothing wrong with you. Go home. There's not a thing wrong. And they were wrong. But, you know, and those days today, they would save him because he lived he was at a football game and they took him to the local hospital. He lived till morning. And then the nurse came in and moved in and wasn't supposed to and the blood that moved them. So but that had a big impact on your study, too, because it's very distressing. You know, it was well, I my mother called me something like 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning. It was awful. Awful. So anyway, I went in, she said someone would the coach would come and pick me up and me and my brother, because my brother was here by that time and he was studying math as an undergrad. So I went in and asked to be excused and so on. And then I talked to I guess Professor Hansen was my quantum chemistry teacher. So I went in and we were scheduled for an exam and I said, I will have to make it up when I get back or something. And he said, you can sit down right now and take it. I don't know if I should tell this next part or not, but I will. And I said that I'm really prepared. We can sit you can just take the exam. You'll have no, I've never forgiven him. How did you get through the exam? I did it, but I got to be in the course instead of in a man who I mean, I. I guess I passed. Exam, but, you know, well, you're not thinking you're not even thinking about taking an exam at that point. So anyway, so we went home and I had a huge funeral service in the local high school. It must have been the biggest funeral they ever had. Several hundred I mean, hundreds killed a whole lot of time. So anyway, being Scandinavian, I never shed a tear. I never, you know, since and it was October love all the time. But the really bad part, the worst of it all was my mother had to pick up and move right away because this house belonged to the school district. Oh, and she and he's not the Super Bowl anymore. Know, and they have to get a new person on. So I stayed with her while we had an auction and sell everything. And anyhow, she moved to Waterloo for a while with my grandparents. Then then she came here with me. And by that time my roommate Ruth and I had become roommates, lived out on Wall Street. And just coincidentally, Ruth decided to get married to a fellow in chemistry. And so my mother moved into the apartment with me and she ran a little donut shop for a while best. And then she became housemother in the 80s. I was just so sad that she became a housewife. Did the boys just loved her and she just loved it. She was a big bridge player and, you know, so that was great. And she even became AME's mother of the year because her voice anyhow. So that worked out pretty well. And then she moved out to be housemother about the time I was ready to finish school. And Marvin and I got I finished in December of 51 and right after I graduated with my Steve Martin and I got married and I went off to Oak Ridge to take a job. Right. And what did he do? Did he he stayed here to finish his PhD. See, I got through and just over three years. And as I say, you really I really break through. Well, I was motivated. I needed the money. And not only that, I mean, I was motivated to finish up and go on. And so everybody sort of shook their heads because that was pretty untraditional in those days for a woman to marry and then pick up and go somewhere else. So Laslett actually told him he was back by that time, actually told it, you know, you're making a horrible mistake. He was or you were. He was. But Marvin was making a horrible mistake. Marrying this woman just took off and had it. It was so untraditional to take off and leave him. And he says it'll never last. Never last. Anyway, Marvin didn't tell me this till later when you could laugh about it. So but anyway, he came down in the summer. I was at Oak Rich and wrote his thesis there and came back, passed his thesis defense. And then while we were there, he tried to find the position he liked in Oak Ridge and really didn't find any. There's not much there, I don't think, except for, you know, well, at that time they had a physics division, but it was not really doing the things he was interested in. And actually, I was working in an area I didn't like all that. I mean, I like the people, but it was the ill fated aircraft, Nuclear Propulsion Project. And and I I had the feeling that the time it was never going anywhere, although I worked with some extremely nice people and I have many friends left from that. So anyway, he decided he wanted to go back to Los Alamos, where he had been as a summer student while he was getting his PhD here. He had gone there one summer. And so you were able to find a position there as well. Well, therein lies another story. I followed him there. I quit after a year and he had talked to them and they said, oh, yeah, there is kind of position for me. They were sure I'd be wanted and so forth. So we got there after Christmas and I started calling. Around trying to to collect my job, and I called the personnel department and they said I said, I think it's in the test division, but how I could have been so stupid in those days is not to have something. I always get it right. I know where you go. How could I be that? I was so nasty. I was so naive. I can't believe it now. I'm so whatever the other way that I can't believe it. So they said that can't be. We'll send your application around, but we don't hire women in that division. And I said, Really? Oh, because I'd never heard that one before. Until then, they hadn't really run into that kind of attitude. I hadn't. And so fortunately, Director Bradberry at that time always had a party for new hires. And my husband was invited to that. And I went to his house and I met Dr. Spencer. Spence was head of the radio chemistry group. And we talked and he said and I told him I was trying to find the job had been promised. And I thought I had been promised to my husband on my behalf. And he said, I've been looking for you or have you been? I said, well, I called the personnel department and they said they didn't hire women. He said, well, nonsense. And so I met him Monday morning. He hired me on the spot and I was to do their plutonium chemistry because they desperately needed me because the first thermonuclear explosion, Mike, had just been fired in November. And you would have thought that was a happy ending to the story, but turned out not to be, because when I had been here, I'd got my cue clearance here under the meth lab project, I guess through either Chicago or New York office, I don't know. But it was when I left Oak Ridge, they sent my clearance back to the originating office, as they always do. And then when I went to Los Alamos, they thought since I just come from the Oak Ridge, it should be in the New York. Anyway, they got totally confused and it took them three months to figure it out. In the meantime, Einsteinium and Fermi were discovered and I missed and you missed it because you were waiting on your clearance. So finally, Rod said to him, I'll just start this over. And they called in the FBI and took him three days. And then I started on March 13th, 1953. So anyway, that's sort of it. And then at Los Alamos, I started work in the radio chemistry group. There were several other women, was just a marvelous mentor. Professor Martin was Dr. Rustin's because he would he was group leader, had a fair sized group, rather large group. Actually, I had just hired Louise Smith, who came from Kansas State with a master's. Had several other women, some in technician positions that still and the group was marvelous, I never know. The only problem I had was we always got together for coffee in the morning and some of the fellows would delight in telling racy jokes. But other than that, it wasn't that I didn't understand, of course. And so anyway, then later on, we moved from the downtown area to a different building. And later we had what was called purpose and the professional research and teaching leave. And Marvin and I both went to Norway. I had a National Science Foundation plus senior post-doctoral fellowship, and he got a Fulbright to go to Norway. I could have taken my fellowship anywhere and had sort of arranged to go to Germany, but then I'm a half Norwegian. So when he got a Fulbright to Norway. Of course, we're going to go away our way and they keep asking me when I came there. Why did you decide to come here? And then I tell them this. Oh, well, OK. And that was a liberating experience for me, actually, because women were treated much more equally, which was good and bad. I mean, they didn't open doors for you. They didn't change stars for you. You took care of yourself. On the other hand, you felt like you could go anywhere by yourself. And in those days in this country, women really didn't even go out to eat alone. And in other words, if I went to a meeting or something, I felt a little funny. Even going downstairs to eat in the hotel dining room by myself can believe that. I can't even imagine anymore. I can't even imagine how I could have felt that way. But I did that. We had a big shift. It has changed anyhow. Can you talk a little bit about what I guess what your research was focused on at that point? It seems like you really had nuclear chemistry, just one of the most exciting times, right? I really did. And at that time in Los Alamos, the radio chemistry group was charged with diagnosing the nuclear tests that the U.S. was conducting both in the South Pacific and then later underground in Nevada. And so I missed the Einsteinium Permian discovery, which I never got to this day. And but I did have a chance to to do plutonium chemistry, study a lot of vision products and start studying fusion, spontaneous vision, which was one of the things I was still I'm very interested in. I didn't really start on the trans plutonium elements until 78, 79. I had a Guggenheim Fellowship and I went to Berkeley. And during that year I helped in the search for superheavy elements. I did fusion spontaneous fusion research on heavy fermions. And in the in the tests in Nevada, we had always been trying to produce heavier isotopes of Birmingham and even heavier elements, and we never could. And we finally found out how why I returned. Let's see, I guess, in Los Alamos before I went to Berkeley, back in seventy five, we did some experiments at Los Alamos at the Vandergriff that showed that the reason we couldn't find these things was they were unusually short. The heavier for me, isotopes decayed or something, and that's why we couldn't get beyond. So then when I went to Berkeley, we engaged in some searches for SuperHeavy. I did more studies of the heavier chromium isotopes, studied reaction mechanisms and generally had a great sabbatical. So I left early. I was already an associate group leader. By that time, I left early to come back to Los Alamos Midsummer in the fall, to the division later. And I was the first woman division leader there, although they had had a woman, women group leaders, and they had had a woman, deputy lab director, a physicist. So those are homeless in general, except for the personnel department was very, very open to women and I think it was such a close community in those days that they had to find jobs for the women professionals and needed them, as far as it goes, would have been a waste. It would only waste. And so why did you decide to leave Los Alamos and go to. Well, after I came back to Los Alamos, I was a division leader of chemistry, nuclear chemistry. And then I set up a nuclear chemistry. And I did that for about five years. I had a lot of things I really wanted to do. And after three or four years, you feel like you've sort of done the things you wanted to do. The administration was becoming more prohibitive in the sense that we had almost 200 people. And I loved my division. I really did. But it got. So you were spending all your time either on personnel matters or fundraising or this, in a sense, non-scientific things. I continued to go back to Berkeley even then, once in a while when I could get away to participate in some experiments there and then. They asked me, would I consider coming back as a professor of chemistry? And I said, well, yes, I'd consider it. And in the fall of 83, I guess it was, I went gave a seminar and so forth, and then I thought, well, OK, whatever. And then in the spring of 84 takes a long time for these offers, though. The university has to go through the budget. That's right. It has to be approved by everybody. Everybody. Not only that, I was coming in with tenure. I wanted to keep my retirement. See, fortunately, University of California runs Los Alamos, Lawrence Berkeley lab here, still in the same building, the same retirement system. But I had to get that all sorted out. So finally, in the spring of 84, they made me a formal offer and I decided it was time to do something else. And particularly I wanted to go back and help train the next generation of students in nuclear and radio chemistry. So I left the samples. August of 84. Marvin stayed involved and try to get well. We moved our stuff out and then he tried to get things totally wound up there. But it was quite a quite a step after a big shooty years. Yes, big career shift. And I think that was pretty difficult. Well, it's very difficult. I had to have all this office staff work, all these people working for me. All I had to do was say the word, you know, in a way it's as bad for you, too. It was nice. And then to move to somewhere where you probably didn't have to. Right. And had to do almost everything. But I had some good help, too. I had a colleague with a master's degree, Diana Lee, who was just, you know, helped me with everything I had. But the first time I talked to nuclear chemistry lab because they had the most and they had equipment from the 60s, it was just ridiculous. But fortunately, it was the equipment I knew because they were doing research anyway. So there was a lot a lot of hard work. And I remember Marvin saying to me that fall know now don't be upset if you don't get any new graduate students right away because maybe they won't want to work for a while. And I said, how can you say that? I never would even have thought of that. But I did get to new graduate students a first year. Professor Seaburg helped me a great deal. A great deal. He's a great recruiter. OK, let's talk about because this is really such a career shift. It's almost a new career. And, you know, the one thing I ever told my father I wouldn't do when I started graduate school in chemistry, I thought that was great, he says, but why don't you get a teaching certificate just in case? I said, I'm not going to do it. I positively will not do it. I don't want to do is I'd seen too many women trapped in low blow jobs and and I didn't want to do that. I wanted to do research. So I was sort of amused when I go back to teaching that anyway. So what do you what did you like about teaching or what do I what I like about it is the contact with young people. By the time I left Los Alamos, things were changing a lot. They didn't really they were trying to figure out what their mission really was. Still, Livermore and Los Alamos still trying to figure out what they're really there for. And I think that's why they don't have nuclear and real chemistry and Ames lab anymore because they decided that was not their mission anymore. Right. And they were able to focus and they focused on other things, although I still think it's exceedingly important, because if we don't have the trained students in aconite chemistry, in nuclear chemistry, who's going to provide the information we need? We're going to make a vacuum. We're going to have a vacuum. Even if we never have another reactor or never don't keep a stockpile of nuclear bombs, whatever, we're still going to need people in this area that know how to deal with that is we're still going to be do we still are dealing with and we have environmental problems we need to clean up. Not only that, I I firmly believe in nuclear power that we should be doing research on it to make it as safe as possible. We're going to need it for energy. Burning fossil fuels just adds to the greenhouse antiquated. And I know you had mentioned in one of your interviews that I think France is 80 percent in power and we're just we're just really falling behind. Yeah. All and and many other European countries. So anyway, that's and I've enjoyed working with the graduate students. I still have seven, but we're hoping to get a new professor this year. Kind of take that over and it's time for me to, you know, they start. And what about your your the research part of your job? What do you enjoy the most about it? I know that you said that you liked working with the heaviest elements because you're you're on the edge of stability and it's on the edge of nuclear stability. It's at the edge of where you can study chemical properties, very heaviest region, and it's sort of all new. So I've tried to focus on the chemistry since I was in the chemistry department, the students. I've sort of always been sort of between chemistry and physics, but my degrees in chemistry and I tried to concentrate more on the chemical properties, although we've done a lot of work on spontaneous fusion. And so I I'm really interested in spontaneous fusion in the sense that that sort of determines where you're going to need to come to a halt, how many elements you can make at some point. They're just not going to hold together. 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It's hard","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=18.65,22.43"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to say. We're now being stabilized by Shell fast","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=22.43,25.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and understand what this means. If you the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=27.62,32.62"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"original concept was that the nucleus was like a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=32.78,36.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"liquid drug and if it were just stabilized by this,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=36.65,41.65"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we would have run out of stability around element","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=44.36,47.42"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"100. 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They re retrack. They did retaliate. Yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1010.7,1015.29"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"indeed they did. Maybe they just didn't expect the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1015.29,1017.93"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"response they got. They did. And it was the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1017.93,1021.08"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"commission on an organic golden plate of IUPAC.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1021.08,1025.94"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the problem was they didn't have enough, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1025.94,1028.1"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they were an organic chemist, reputable people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1029.21,1032.6"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But they didn't understand how strongly people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1032.6,1035.84"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would feel about this, Ed.. Yeah, and rightly so,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1035.84,1038.99"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"too. Yeah. So so they reaffirmed, I think, the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1039.0,1042.89"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"three of us who used to be an IUPAC I and the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1043.88,1047.63"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Unscratched from Germany. He's a professor at MIT","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1047.63,1051.02"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and by golly, go Paskey from Russia, an Academy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1051.35,1056.35"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"member in Russia and also a member of IUPAC, wrote","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1057.41,1060.86"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a letter stating that we wish to see reaffirm the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1060.86,1065.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right of this step to to name the moment and the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1065.54,1070.54"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"possibility that an element could be named after","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1072.83,1075.79"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"him increase. And we got a big writing. We sent","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1075.8,1079.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that IUPAC, we got a big writing campaign going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1079.31,1083.15"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that led to the current. Well, I'm glad that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1083.15,1085.97"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that resolution worked out the way I asked,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1085.97,1088.31"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because I think that was very upsetting to a lot","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1088.31,1090.17"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of people. It wasn't. Well, I will go ahead and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1090.17,1092.87"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"close your eyes. I know you're probably tired, so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1092.87,1094.7"},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thank you very much. Most welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=1094.7,1096.5"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36763/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/763/original/AV205411_Darleane_C_Hoffman_2_a.vtt?1650911468","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/036/763/original/AV205411_Darleane_C_Hoffman_2_a.vtt?1650911468"}]},{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36764","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["AV205411_Darleane_C_Hoffman_2_a.txt [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965/transcript/36764/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- Well, you're talking about vision and how that is on the edge of stability and how that really intrigues you, and so do you think that how many elements are we up to now, what, 11, 12 or 12? Do you think I can go any further? Yes, that's yes. How would ever there. Do you think can. It's hard to say. We're now being stabilized by Shell fast and understand what this means. If you the original concept was that the nucleus was like a liquid drug and if it were just stabilized by this, we would have run out of stability around element 100. So that just like in in chemistry, there are certain stable electronics structures which leads to the periodic table structure and nuclear properties. It's the same thing. But now it appears that there's not just the debris, magic spherical nucleus out there at 114 and 184 neutrons. It just recent developments within the last few years, predictions by the Polish group that there would be a dehorned, doubly magic, deformed, not spherical in shape or other shapes much closer in the region, around one hundred and eight hundred and ten and hundred and sixty two neutrons. And we are in that region right now. And it appears that this is now going to sort of extend on up to the spirit ship. And so I firmly believe now, based on those predictions and will be confirmed, that there really will be stable nuclei above 112. But the real question is how to make them OK. And so that's that's the real and how we see them because they're so well, some of them are going to be plenty long enough to see her and hope that the yields are going to be very low. All right. OK, how do we have a new instrument playing that bird? You can say so how do you do that? Which is called the Berkeley Gasfield Separator there the GSI people built some very successful separators and physical techniques, not Hamako, and sort of took it away from us at one point seven, eight, nine, because they put money in how we were retracting nothing. And so now we're going to try to are in the process and on the operation of this. No, it's another kind of physical separator. And we can look at very short half lives with wide acceptance. And that's why the reaction you're using. And we think that'll enable us to maybe get the one that first we would explore different isotopes of the Nano on this one 10, 11, 12, one eight, nine, 10, 11 and 12 that might have longer hair. And then if we identify those, we can do chemical studies and then do more physical studies and work our way down the road. But the real the real challenge right now is I firmly believe they can exist, but it's not quite clear that we can make them in large enough. So you have to keep pushing your sensitivity and by various techniques and also your production methods because it's such an exciting, just so exciting. I find it very exciting and I wish more people did. But it's it's difficult research and it's fairly expensive. And nobody wants to fund it because they think, OK, what's new? Yes, exactly. What do you see it doing for her? Well, I have to say all of them see a graph that I showed yesterday, which is the students I have may not do this the whole rest of their lives. Right. And we used to have a director at Los Alamos, Harold Agnew, who always said it like it was and said, well, you can't expect to do your thesis the rest of your life, but rather in graduate school. I feel they should be able to choose a frontier research project. And this teaches them about acting and can. Street, which is valuable pictures and computer techniques that teaches them automated remote control systems, you know, a whole variety. So they typically find jobs in what some in nuclear medicine, some at the national labs doing waste isolation studies, environmental studies and sensitive analysis, a whole host of things. So, again, it's a starting point, basically. Yeah, they have the fundamental knowledge and they can apply it in a number of fields. And besides the fact that this is knowledge and we ought to throw it out exactly there. I was just reading in an engineering news conference remarks he's won the Priestley medal and he chose to they published his track and he chose to talk just about how we need to retain funding for fundamental science, even though we don't know what it's going to bring. But you can't always know when it can bring. And he said even NSF is being pushed to this and relevant, practical, practical science. And that's just wrong. He said they should double NSF budget to support. That's just basic research. Yeah, I'll ask you. And this is about the feeling of discovery and Ternium. Is it, too, for for that. Right. What was it? Can you just describe the feeling of knowing that you have found natural? Yeah, we had worked on it very long. And Francine Lawrence was my co-worker, actually. I heard very shortly after I came to Los Alamos and she was a technician to begin with. Then she got her masters degree. She continued to do the plutonium chemistry after I'd gone on to bigger and better management things. And in the late 60s, early 70s and 1771, we were processing solutions. We got a family car from the business side or which we chose to look at because it had lots of rare earths, some thorium, and it was a place where I felt after they're processing plutonium, which likes to be in the four, would remain. So we process this time after time and send samples and send blanks. And finally, we had just sent in the last sample and I was at the Santa Fe Opera that Friday night looking out at the stars. By this time, I think we have so sure enough, the next week our associates at Campbell did the math that Schenectady. So they called us up and said it looked very promising. They did. One of them did a little additional chemistry, preparing for the mess that we had to be very careful to get all the thorium out of everything. Right. So indeed, they did find it and ran two samples and then they had about. But where are we? Let's say you're finishing up talking about being at the opera and anyway, so we did confirm that there was to 40 for very small amounts. It was like 20 million atoms. That isn't very many. I mean, it sounds like a lot, but it's not very many. And what we found, after all the analysis was done in the blanks and so on. We can tell based on the isotope ratios that it wasn't just fallout or contamination or something. And so it turned out to be a billionth of a billionth part in this war. And presumably it's primordial. But one of my theoretician friends said, well, it possibly can be from fallout, fallout from heavy production in nearby Supernova, something that I think probably not because that would be hard to create over the years and concentrate. So do you have any theories about where it has come from? Yes. Yes. This would be in last nuclear synthesis in our solar system. So like the very big four and a half to four point seven billion years ago. And that's why it's such a tiny amount. And based on the amount that's calculated that should have been produced from various theoretical calculations, you can make various assumptions about how long ago this was and so forth. And so it's really fascinating to get this really caught the public's imagination. It really did come from the beginning of time. Well, for us. Yeah, for us. For us right now. And so that that was very important. I do have two final questions for you and then I'll let you take a break. I was going to ask about how what the impact of winning certain awards has been since the 1990 Garbin Awards and the recent National Science Medal Award and how that has encouraged you? Well, actually, the first time and maybe the one I was most proud of was in 1983, I won the award in nuclear chemistry and I was the first woman to win an award that wasn't specifically for like the government. Yeah, like the Guardian or the teaching award or something. And my colleagues, that homeless, same public health from Berkeley nominated me for that. And that was 1983 before I left. And just by chance, Dr. Seabaugh was the presenter that year. I worked and I thought that was right. And then I went to Berkeley in 84 and then the Garvan Medal. I was very pleased with that, of course, and joined six distinguished women in many fields. And I was pleased with that because typically they haven't recognized nuclear either in biology and one thing and another in medicine and so on. So I was very, very thrilled that I could and had asked me to ask the National Medal of Science. Well, of course, I was thrilled to win that again, specifically because things nuclear had not been rewarded well part of by this administration. And of course, that was four things I'd done in a variety of fields, but all nuclear and also free education, which in nuclear chemistry, which I was pleased. It's funny to see that there are trends in the sciences and that nuclear is not it's just not because it's not hard right now. And it's that I realized that it was not intentional to start with. But it's funny to see that things go in waves like they do. And part of it has been the anti-nuclear lobby and they think they're being environmentalist and not fossil fuels are a lot more dangerous and also put out more radioactivity as natural. And one thing I always try that I used to do more talks to women and so forth, and I would always try to point out and I do this when I did their undergrad course, that radiation is a continuum ranging all the way from very long wavelength, very low energy that you can't see in sunlight and on into. X-rays and gamma rays and and cosmic rays, and that isn't a totally different phenomena. And then we started out with much more radioactivity on Earth because uranium 235 as well. At the time of the natural of the reactors, it was three percent. Now it's seven percent. And so we live with that every day with the debris and it's in us. And I get to go in Berkeley and Oakland, they have a science nuclear free zone. My students used to go when they were trying to get people to sign that things in the grocery store, as my students used to go in and say, well, are you going to get rid of the bananas? And so they said, well, you know, it's OK. They're simply that's what you're going to get rid. So on my final question has to do with the current controversy over the naming of the new heaviest elements and what your thoughts or feelings are on that. Well, the IUPAC primary as of last October, 30 years to be the new set of names, which is essentially what the American Chemical Society had adopted. S. BoardGame is now official good. We managed to keep rather 40 of them as sort of a compromise. They've named one of five. Give me the others, of course, one of six meals and became Borya, which is OK with me, except it's not very good because we already have a boron and in some languages that's not so good. Hi Sam. After the state of Texas and that's appropriate one or nine for at least a month. And nobody argued with my friend to argue with me. And so the only one that we are so happy with is Dounia. Although the scientists do deserve something, they did a lot of work. I don't happen to think they discovered one of that. And it's particularly difficult since we had about a quarter of a century of chemistry on one of five calling it honey. OK, so now we switched to do them. You're going to have to say, when did you do this? It may be that one tenth of one of the heavier elements might get named to him. But if so, I mean, honey, excuse me. I misspoke. My good name Ternium by the German scuppers. But then we have an even worse problem. So one of five is kind of tense and therefore the case will probably continue to use honey until we see what happens with one tomorrow. But I was really surprised to read that I believe it was the International Congress that all of a sudden said, well, now we can't let discoverer's name elements anymore. They re retrack. They did retaliate. Yes, indeed they did. Maybe they just didn't expect the response they got. They did. And it was the commission on an organic golden plate of IUPAC. And the problem was they didn't have enough, but they were an organic chemist, reputable people. But they didn't understand how strongly people would feel about this, Ed.. Yeah, and rightly so, too. Yeah. So so they reaffirmed, I think, the three of us who used to be an IUPAC I and the Unscratched from Germany. He's a professor at MIT and by golly, go Paskey from Russia, an Academy member in Russia and also a member of IUPAC, wrote a letter stating that we wish to see reaffirm the right of this step to to name the moment and the possibility that an element could be named after him increase. And we got a big writing. We sent that IUPAC, we got a big writing campaign going. And that led to the current. Well, I'm glad that that resolution worked out the way I asked, because I think that was very upsetting to a lot of people. It wasn't. Well, I will go ahead and close your eyes. I know you're probably tired, so thank you very much. Most welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1945/collection_resources/73116/file/158965#t=0.0,1100.016"}]}]}]}