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[Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45590/file/118604/transcript/30063/annotation/1245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"- I wish to welcome you to this evening lecture which is sponsored by the Religious Studies Program and Iowa State University, along with the departments of History and Political Science and Philosophy. And also partly by the Committee on Lectures which is funded by the student government. I think while I'm talking, I will ask you especially people just back a bit to move forward. And I think we'll have a better setting for our speaker. I know how I feel when an introducer makes that request but to get over that feeling and just come up beginning with my colleague in the back row. We are fortunate to have Professor Spalding with us from the University of Iowa who is the Director of the School of Religion there. Some of you may not be aware that at the University of Iowa, there is a School of Religion and that it has been for the past 50 years. As a matter of fact, I think about a year or two ago, I received a document from Melvin Sine Horst of the State of Iowa proposing that I or that we here should renew the Charter of the School of Religion at Iowa State University. And I think maybe he had similar troubles that president Ford did about identifying places recently. Our guest has as his area of concentration, Religious History especially modern in the period of the Renaissance and Reformation, Western religious history, Christian history and has been working in this area for a number of years, even though as we discovered at the supper table that he began in electrical engineering or chemical engineering. But he made the comment that he thought that there was a good preparation for doing a study of religion and theology because it gave him good training in bringing order out of chaos which is of course what many of us have to do right along whether we're in religion or not in the study of religion. But he has been at the University of Iowa for 20 years as a professor. And since 1971 as the Director of the School of Religion. And he participates in a wide variety of activities in the scholarly world, belonging to such organizations as the American Academy of Religion, the American Society for Reformation Research, the American Society of Church History and the Sixteenth Century Studies Conference of which he was the president in 1975. And he has published many materials in these, in the area of religious history in the period of the Renaissance and Reformation. This afternoon, he presented to us a paper on the background of the thinking of religious people in a time of our own American Revolution. And how's that how there were parallels to what was said there by religious spokesman in that period, how there were parallels to what had preceded in English history. And tonight, I really do think that Professor Spalding is going to attempt to bring together widely at least what appears to be widely separate materials, the Bible Freedom and Revolution biblical themes of freedom as background for a Bicentennial Celebration of American Independence. So that we look forward to your presentation Professor Spalding on that comprehensive subject. We're happy to have you with us.\r\n\r\n- Thank you very much for your kind words. I would like to begin by saying that among the people for whom I have the highest respect and admiration today are two people. By name is Sidney Mead and William Stringfellow. Sidney Mead is a retired professor from the University of Iowa. He's a person with great affinities for Carl Sandburg and Abraham Lincoln because of his own background. At the age of 25 he did not yet know what a college was, but he has had since then a distinguished career at the University of Chicago at the Claremont Graduate University and of course the University of Iowa. As probably the foremost interpreter of the religious dimensions of American History, William Stringfellow by contrast is a Blue Blooded Ivy Leaguer who turned down the usual Wall Street Role accepted by graduates of the greatest of American law schools to become a civil rights and human rights lawyer in East Harlem and later a peace activist. And still later a person who is enjoying what he calls a second birth after what had seemed to be an incurable and fatal disease. Now, both of these people, Sydney Mead and Williams Stringfellow have as a primary concern, the task of interpreting the role of religion in American life. And both have accepted the fact that there are two basic American religious traditions. The religion of the Republic on the one hand and the religion of the churches, sex, denomination, synagogues on the other hand. Both of these people see unresolved tensions between Christian faith on the one hand and that Civil Religion which has undergirded our declaration of independence, the constitution and our national hopes and aspirations on the other hand. And his recent book, \"the nation with the soul of a church\". Sidney Mead sees the tension to be between the universalism of the religion of the Republic based upon the enlightenment faith of the founders of the American nation people such as Jefferson, Franklin, Hamilton, Madison, and so on. And he sees this too be in contradiction with the particularisms of doctrine which made believes are largely inherited from Europe which informed the churches, the sex and the denominations. Now in this contradiction or this tension, Sidney Mead has a decided preference for the religion of the Republic. And I might add for this audience that this enlightenment religiosity which has taken form in what Mead calls, the religion of the Republic is also what Michael Novak calls the tradition in which intellectuals ordinarily define themselves. In other words it is also the religion that informs the mentality of presidents, deans, and professors by and large in our State Universities and in our great private institutions. Well from this basis and in the face of this tension, Sydney Mead challenges the spokesman for the Christian tradition to work on the task of resolving the contradictions between the two basic religions of America. Now this contradiction is blissfully on observed by most people. And this was empirically demonstrated according to Mead in a massive study undertaken recently by the three major Lutheran denominations in this country. They sought through the resources of current sociology to get a profile of Lutherans in America in the three major Lutheran denominations. And it was discovered among other things that three-fourths of Lutherans in America affirm that all religions lead to the same God. Now this is an affirmation of the Enlightenment Religion of the religion of the Republic. But at the very same time three-fourths of Lutherans in this country affirm that belief in Jesus Christ is absolutely necessary for salvation. This is a particular historic doctrine of their Christian tradition. This means that at least 50% of Lutherans in America are happily living with a basic contradiction in their beliefs. And Sidney Mead would challenge the spokesman for the denominations to work, to resolve this contradiction which is by no means a special problem of Lutherans who are at least as theologically sophisticated as other American churches, sex and denominations. Now Sidney Mead would personally resolve the contradiction by affirming the enlightenment faith of the founders of the American Republic. William Stringfellow, in contrast to Mead has recently published his position in a book entitled, \"Ethics for Christians and Other Alienated People.\" Here Stringfellow interprets the religion of the Republic or Civil Religion to be simply another mask for the essentially demonic and idolatry which is symbolized as the Great Beast in Revelation 13. I remind you that Stringfellow is an Ivy leaguer and he speaks from that context when he speaks this way. The physical and spiritual scars that Stringfellow personally bears from his activities in working for the human rights of oppressed minorities in New York city which he bears as a result of his activities and civil rights and peace movements. These scars were largely inflicted upon him by the official agents of a national state that was intent upon destroying whatever effectiveness Stringfellow and others like him have had in their efforts to bring about a better justice and a more tolerable human situation for the oppressed. Long, long ago, he had discovered that in East Harlem my people that is worse Ivy Leaguer, my people is the enemy. Now he feels that the only proper view for Christians and other alienated people to take is to see the state as essentially demonic in whatever form it takes. This feeling toward the state does not refer simply to this or that particular totalitarian state but it is true of any state. I have a little feeling for this when I think of Picasso's great painting Guernica. And I've seen this painting over many, many years when it first came to the Museum of Modern Art in New York. And of course my first impression of this painting was isn't that awful the way those Nazi's and fascists are, you know. Today I realized that painting Guernica is not just about Nazi's and fascists, it's about us. We are the ones who are depicted in Guernica. We're the ones involved in the obliteration bombing of civilian populations and so on. So that Stringfellow says, it's not simply that this or that totalitarian state is the demonic state described in Revelation 13 but any state is this. Therefore says Stringfellow it is the proper activity of the alienated to be in fundamental opposition to the state at whatever point they come into contact with it. If Christian people do not feel alienated, they understand neither their Christian faith nor the nature of the enemy. Now of course the religion of the 18th-century Enlightenment or the religion of the Republic has a view of the state which sees the state as the Practical Agency through which justice in the world is ultimately realized. Now this afternoon and a lecture I mentioned how the current German theologian of consequence Jürgen Moltmann gave a lecture a week or two ago in America on his impression of America. And it's only this, but he said, Americans seem to become either messiness or apocalyptic These are the two tenancies. The messiness, he says are those who have a future hope which is combined with faith in its own realizability and the apocalyptics basis are those Americans who sense a future anxiety, which is combined with faith in the realizability of its worst fears. Now the founders of the American Republic and Sidney Mead belong obviously to the first category, the messiness, the ones with a future hope combined with the faith in its own realizability. What Stringfellow and not without many sad experiences belongs among those who have a future anxiety which is combined with faith and the realizability of it's worst fears. Now of course, at least 50% of Lutherans according to statistics, and probably most of the rest of us are living a contradiction in between these two categories. Reflecting now one and now the other, depending upon how the question is asked of us. And probably this dilemma of most of us has something to do with why many people don't know how they're gonna vote next week. But it's in facing up to this dilemma that I would have us look in this Bicentennial year celebrating the American Revolution. It is in facing up to this dilemma that I would have us look at the Themes of Freedom which are to be found in the Bible. It is from the Bible that both the Universalistic religion of the Republic on the one hand and the doctrine of the various sex churches and denomination America take their inspiration. Biblical Themes of Freedom are very much the inspiration of Stringfellow's ethics for the alienated and biblical Themes of Freedom are very much a part of the religion of the Republic. And I would affirm that basically the Themes of Freedom and forming the religion of the Republic or from the Hebrew Bible or the Christian old Testament. And basically the Themes of Freedom and forming the ethics for the alienated come from William Stringfellow's long and careful study of the New Testament, which goes back to his undergraduate years at Yale university under the Great New Testament scholar, Paul Meinir. Whether or not Christian spokesman can solve the dilemma posed to them by Mead or by Stringfellow is going to relate closely to how well those same spokesman are able to develop a meaningful relationship between the Old and the New Testaments. So let us now review the Themes of Freedom to be found in the Hebrew Bible or the Christian old Testament. And of course, routes for the freedom theme wherever it is to be found are ultimately in that biblical story of the Exodus from Egypt. The liberation of a people from bondage. On July 4, 1776, not only was Declaration of Independence signed in Philadelphia, but we have two or three Americans gathered together, a committee is formed. And so it was formed on this day. And the committee that was formed was a committee of three men, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson to design a great seal for the new Republic. What a committee. Now both Franklin and Jefferson wanted to have pictured on that seal the people of Israel being liberated from Egypt. Now neither Jefferson nor Franklin can properly be called churchmen, but they were both devil Taiz. Well, they were founders, founding fathers of the religion of the Republic. And they saw the Freedom Theme which was declared in the Declaration of Independence as being born in the deliverance of Israel from bondage. The eventual design of the great seal, which appears on every dollar bill depicts the goal of that liberation. The new order of the ages in the promised land. You get your dollar bill out and look on the backside and there it is. Not only does the story of the Exodus though provide inspiration to the oppressed themselves, but reminds the oppressed one set free to have a concern for the oppressed in their midst. Hence in Exodus 23, verse nine, it is stated, \"you shall not oppress an alien for you know the heart of an alien for you were an alien in the land of Egypt.\" In other words, not only are the roots of the religion of the Republic in the story of the Exodus but William Stringfellow's Christian identification with the alienated and the oppressed finds its earliest support in the story of the Exodus and the implications from that. Now of course, in the Hebrew Bible, the story of the freed people is not simply a story of human triumph over enslavement. For the Prophetic Books in that Bible remind us that liberated people can and do become themselves oppressors. The prophet Amos was to discover 2,500 years before Williams Stringfellow that my people is the enemy. However, I would insist that this awareness is also to be found in some of the more perceptive proponents of the religion of the Republic. I would remind you of John Quincy Adams carrying on a lonely fight against slavery in the house of representatives long after he had been repudiated as president of the United States and making his last dramatic speech before dying in the house in 1848. He was an Amos to our nation as he decried the American imperialism that was waging an unjust war against Mexico. And he decried this awarding of all kinds of metals to the officers who have participated in this unjust war. And of course another Amos was Abraham Lincoln Who lost his seat in Congress for opposing that war against NEC Mexico. And as you well know, in his second inaugural address, Lincoln spoke like an Old Testament prophet in declaring the civil war to be the awful consequence to a nation, which had failed to be true to its commitment to liberty and justice for all. Now neither Lincoln nor Adams could be called churchmen but they did bear allegiance to the religion of the Republic. And through them this biblical prophetic voice owing allegiance to freedom could be heard. So that here in this basic Hebrew understanding of freedom we find routes both for the religion of the Republic and for the Christian faith of a man like Stringfellow who feels that the religion of the Republic is simply a mask for idolatry. Now of course, the story in the Hebrew Bible goes on and the nation of Israel was destroyed by first the Assyrians on the North and then the Babylonians in the South. And so you had once again, a Nation of Aliens of in foreign lands of displaced persons. And in this period of national humiliation, there was a prophet of the exile whose writings were found in the latter part of Isaiah who saw meaning even in this destruction of the nation even in this national humiliation and saw that this people which had become once again aliens in foreign lands which had become displaced persons saw in that very happening opportunity to proclaim Liberty to the captives and the opening of prison to those who are bound. That they're being scattered among the nations the earth gave them the opportunity to proclaim liberty to all nations and not simply to their own without any military might neither quenching the smoking flax nor breaking the bruise had read armed only with the sword of the spirit, which is the spoken word. They could faithfully proclaim liberty throughout all lands into all of humankind. And I would maintain that similarly, Abraham Lincoln saw in the traumatic consequences of the war between the States, the opportunity for what he called a \"new birth of freedom.\" So that again, in this kind of humiliation that we've recently gone through which we speak of in terms of Vietnam and Watergate, the attitude which informs the Hebrew Bible and which at least some in the religion of the Republic have been sensitive to as well as people like Stringfellow. There is the possibility for a new kind of reflection in terms of our purpose as a people and the possibility again for what might be termed a \"new birth of freedom.\" If we are able to read the signs of the time. Now how about the New Testament? I would say, first of all, that the New Testament and the Old Testament are indelibly linked together. And just at this point where we have been speaking and I would refer you of course to Luke's story of the first Sermon that Jesus gave in His hometown synagogue in Nazareth where they read from the Isaiah 61. And it says there, \"the spirit of the Lord is upon me for He has anointed me to preach good news to the poor to set at Liberty, to those who are oppressed\". And according to Luke, Jesus identified himself with that precise vocation. And as you know, from the story the congregation did not hear Him gladly when He identified this mission with people in the world whom the congregation rejected as being outside the pale. But as long as there are alienated in present people, this kind of message which comes from the prophetic tradition in the Hebrew Bible will be both good news to the poor and a prophetic judgment upon the affluent and the powerful and William Stringfellow owes much to this same prophetic tradition. But when you take the new Testament as a whole, it seems to me that you have a quite different historical situation from what you find by and large in the Hebrew Bible. For the Hebrew Bible, there was this feeling that the nation Israel was a kind of pilot project in the world, bringing to the world, new possibilities then human life and human understanding. And at the time of the new Testament, it is almost impossible for people in the church. I mean, the people who are responsible for the books of the new Testament, which were written of course a generation at least after the time of Jesus. It is practically impossible for them to think in terms of playing any responsible role in the state. The state is the Roman Empire and Jesus has quite clearly rejected the Zealots possibility that is to raise up the righteous people in a revolution as just another Zealots revolutionary to be done to that. But the early church had rejected that as a real possibility revolution. But they saw themselves as existing in a Roman empire where they had practically nothing to say about the state. They did not sit in Caesar's seat. They were a tiny little minority group. And as time went on they began to be more and more oppressed. And so the basic new Testament Themes of Freedom seem to be somewhat different from what we find in the Hebrew Bible. But remember what I said, that the Hebrew Bible is tied into the new Testament in the person of Jesus Himself who was still proclaiming those old Testament freedom themes. And so you'll find in John's gospel, Jesus pictured as he talks to a group of Pharisees who regard themselves as experts on the tradition of freedom. He is pictured as saying that, \"if you take seriously what I'm saying and follow what I'm doing, you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.\" And when he's challenged this is what he means by that. The author John's gospel has Jesus talked to them about bondage to sin and being freed from that. And then the question comes does this have any relevance to either the religion of the Republic or what Stringfellow was talking about? And of course it does for if there is to be this external liberation, there must be liberation from the oppressor within soon isn't slaves to the false gods, when material wealth or central pleasure or national self-interest or power become a God or gods we're human beings. We enter a slavery. Sin is idolatry, and this is the tendency of all national States to think of themselves as though they were all important. We missed the whole point. If we think of idols, simply as those impotent wooden and stone images, which are ridiculed in the book of Isaiah. And sins of omission and commission are the result of sin as such and by focusing on sins rather than sins, we fail to see the root of the bondage. The sins which produced Watergate and the Vietnam war the unconstitutional acts of the executive branches of the United States government, the fraud involved in grain inspection in new Orleans and so on. And so on is the result of a commitment to goals which are quite short of justice for all of humankind which is what the kingdom of God and its righteousness is about. The bondage are the so-called hard-nosed businessman practical politician creates oppresses far more than simply that person himself oppresses many, many other people down the line. So there is some need for a freedom from this kind of bondage to idolatry, bondage to sin. And Stringfellow has some insight as to what this is about. And you go further in the new Testament and read Paul's letters and you find that this freedom also involves freedom from the law. So he says you brothers and sisters were called to freedom do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. And he talks about freedom from bondage to the law which sounds almost preposterous to us today where people are so concerned about lawlessness. And I'm not talking just about the lawlessness in Washington or the lawlessness on the streets of our great cities but there is also what the great Jewish sociologist from France called Anomie writing in the 19th century living without the law, the state of being which is produced when an old culture is dying and a new culture is not yet born. My first job was on an Indian Reservation many long years ago now. And there was this Anomie, this lawlessness people didn't know what to do because the old culture was gone. It was simply the old folks who could still live by those Indian traditions of the past. And they hadn't really accepted the new culture that it pushed in around them. And I found as a Midwestern wasp, white American Anglo-Saxon Protestant, you know, I found shocking what I saw to be lawlessness, you know. But now I've come to realize that we're all on that Indian Reservation, that this situation of anomie is something that is experienced particularly by young people in Hems and in Iowa city and throughout the world and old culture with its forms and its more is dying. And the new is not yet here. And to suggest to people when this is a problem that freedom from the law is something meaningful seems almost ridiculous. And yet this is what Paul is talking about. And of course, when you look at Paul personally, you find that Paul was a super legalist. He was a person who as a young person must've been very insecure about his own acceptance. If you can imagine this a Jewish boy coming from this town of Tarsus which he sought was no mean city, but the fellows in Jerusalem had never heard of it, you know. Growing up, speaking Greek and so on, he comes to Jerusalem where his folks thinking get a good Jewish education and those native Palestinian Jewish boys, you know that Paul thinks he's a Jew, but he dresses funny. Doesn't he? And did you ever hear his accent when he reads the Torah and that haircut wow. You say so insecure in his own personal self-acceptance. He tried to prove himself to his fellows. He tried to become super Jew, you know. And it was only when he had this very strange experience on the Damascus road that he found freedom on, you know from trying to have to prove himself anymore. Because Paul had personally experienced bondage to a tradition in which he was raised and from which he had to be freed he could talk about freedom from the law. But you know this is something that all of us need if we are going to act freely in our culture today. In the sense that each of us has a history, whatever it is and it's different with each one of us. And if we are being determined in the decisions we make by that past of ours instead of being able to make a choice in terms of the options before us, in terms of what is best. We are slaves, we are in bondage to that past of ours. And it is just the apostle Paul then who speaks to us of freedom from the law. And the anomie of the late 20th century can not be overcome simply by reaffirming the law. However, good the law may be Paul pointed out that because of sin, because of idolatry, it's strictly enforcements simply intensifies the problem. And we will never solve crime in the streets or crime in Washington by stricter enforcement alone. So in terms of our national problems, it seems to me that this matter of freedom from the law has something to say to the religion of the Republic and not simply to a particular let's take Christian group. And of course finally and the new Testament they speak of freedom from the fear of death which I find in particular, in the letter to the Hebrews. But it's in other places where you have this matter of people who are in bondage to some kind of idolatry to some kind of, thing which is regarded as all important when it is not really all important because of the basic insecurity in life that is symbolized by the fact of death. And this is something that all of us face. And the thing about William Stringfellow that I know and can say that and underline it is that, \"here is a person who has had to face death and its most gruesome form.\" I can remember one day when he was speaking at the University of Iowa and it was of Friday and he looked like the figure of death itself, just skin and bones. And he said that on Monday he was going to enter a hospital in New York. And he knew that this was the end that the only way you'd come out of this hospital was on a stretcher in a funeral cap, but somehow or other it didn't happen and he's alive. But here's a person who has had to face death down. And I would insist that a person who is able to do that and has done this is a person who has a freedom that most of us do not yet have. And again, it's something that has something to do with our national life and not simply a matter of our particular religious faith our Christian faith or Jewish faith or whatever. There's an interesting statement that E. M Forster made. In 1939, in a radio message over the British Broadcasting Company, this was a dim time. The fall of 1939 World War Two had started. And Forster said this, \"the people I respect most behave as if they were immortal and is if society were eternal.\" Now said Forster, \"both assumptions are false but both of them must be accepted as true. If we're to go on eating and working and laughing and also to keep a few breathing holes open for the human spirit\". Now, certainly we are not immortal, but something is, God is. And society is not eternal, but there are eternal values and people who have been freed from the fear of death because they are willing to affirm what is eternal? Can help us all to go on eating and working and laughing and also to keep a few breathing holes open for the human spirit. And this has something to say about our national life and its possibilities that keeps us going even when everything seems to be defeated and going wrong. Now, I would say that the roots of the religion of the Republic stretch back to the Hebrew Bible. The roots of Stringfellow's ethics for Christians and other alienated people stretched back there. I would also say that new Testament Christianity took form under the conditions of persecution and martyrdom and that the stances toward the state advocated in the new Testament are helpful to people who live under a dictatorial rule, a real by a Caesar who is all powerful. But is the new Testament is helpful in political advice to people living in the American Republic. Must we only see and that what Stringfellow sees the willingness to oppose the state at every point. And I would say we the people of the United States are in some sense, sovereign. And on Tuesday we have something to do with that sovereignty. We are in some sense collectively and Caesar seat so that an opposing what we regard to be demonic tendencies in the state. We're also opposing demonic tendencies in ourselves. Now in a somewhat different setting, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the German Resistance Leader in prison, writing from prison knowing that he had a sentence of execution passed against him, felt drawn to the reading of the old Testament. And he States that the old Testament hope was basically this worldly. The prophets in the old Testament savored of days of peace and justice where humankind can enjoy the goods of this life here and now in this world. And Bonhoeffer personally longed so much for these goods that he could almost taste them. But at the same time he was a person who had an ultimate confidence in the eternal God. Who transcended his own sense of sin and guilt, his fears and anxieties and the face of a grizzly and absurd death by execution. Now Bonhoeffer meant in that his delight in the gods of this world were very real at this time. They were never more real than he was in prison. How he longed to enjoy good friends and good food and good human relations. And we didn't learn until many years later that he was engaged to be married. And we didn't know that at the time. And he longed for the consummation of that marriage and this made particularly pointed his own hope. But he says in reflecting upon his reading of the old Testament in relation to his understanding of the new, \"it is only when one loves life and the earth so much that without them everything seems to be over that one can believe in the resurrection and a new world.\" Now I ask you what was the good news that Dietrich Bonhoeffer longed to hear from outside of prison? Was it a statement of confidence that God would take him up into his eternal kingdom? No, but it was the news that the power of Hitler is being destroyed and there is a new possibility for some breathing space, a new possibility for a better justice for humankind. This was the good news he longed to hear. And I have a new Testament reference there to. It is where John the Baptist is in prison and he's under sentence of death and absurd death and a grizzly death. And John the Baptist was sends out this question to Jesus. \"Are you He who has to come or shall we look to another?\" Now I ask you, what is the response? Then Jesus send back, \"I am the resurrection and the life he who believes in me shall never die. Not at all, not at all.\" His answer is the identical answer that Bonhoeffer wanted to hear. He sent back to John signs of a better day for humankind here and now in this world. The oppressed set free, the poor having the gospel preached to them. Good news preached to the poor. What is the good news the poor want to hear? Now Bonhoeffer would say, Jesus gave a penultimate answer to what may have been for John and ultimate question. But nevertheless, it was the question or the answer that Bonhoeffer himself wanted to hear. And it is in this context that I feel that the there can be a resolution between the Stringfellow's and the Mead's of our society. And as I say I have the greatest of respect for them both. It is in this context that the person who has a kind of ultimate concern which is beyond this world can really care at the same time about the religion of the Republic. He can give himself to the task of achieving liberty and justice for all, and cares so much about it that he sees practically the very meaning of life in these terms. But he can give himself to this task so totally and so free of the fear of its ultimate failure because he feels there is liberation from bondage to sin to his own past and to the fear of death. In other words, because of the transcendent dimension there's transcendent religious dimension which seems for me to be rather particularistic a person can embrace the religion of the Republic and participate with others in the realization of its goals. That's it, thank you. I'm now open to questions and comments and all the rest.\r\n\r\n- Could you discuss some of the individuals who founded the concept of religion of the Republic and what they brought from the Alliance ? And I also was wondering if you could, how someone like Thomas Jefferson can, sorry, dissolve his concept of religion with the fact that he was a slave?\r\n\r\n- Well, I'm not sure that I can do that because I'm not Thomas Jefferson and I don't know that much about it. I do know that, let's start out with the religion of the Republic and the Enlightenment. The enlightenment or the age of religion I would insist begins in the early part of the 17th century with Lord Edward Herbert of Cherbury the brother of the famous country pastor George Herbert. Lord Herbert of Cherbury was British Ambassador or English Ambassador. I'm sorry, Scotland's a another country still though. they still have, they both have the same crown but he is the British Ambassador to the court of France in Paris. And from that perspective, he could see the awful results of the so-called The Thirty Years' War on the continent of Europe and the so-called Wars of Religion within France. And he was appalled by this. And so he said, if we can simply affirm as a kind of ecumenical religion, the religion of reason, we can get rid of these ideological Wars. And he felt that the religion of reason included, involved a belief in God is a creator who was a God of justice and who expected justice from humankind. And though one didn't always see justice in this world. One could have confidence that God would set a straight at least in the next. And that this religion he believed was something that you could derive from the principles of reason and the reason alone. And he also was convinced that these points were affirmed by every Christian group, Protestant or Catholic or Orthodox that these points were affirmed by Jews and by Muslims. And they were just beginning to hear from Jesuit Missionaries about Confucius and they felt they were affirmed by him too. So this was a Universal Religion and that people could come to some kind of unity on this basis. Now in one form or another this is what Franklin and Jefferson and other founders of the American Republic inherited. Now, I'm not saying that every constitutional father was an enlightenment, person committed to this kind of religion. But those who were not committed to this at least accepted that and would say, well there should be something more to. And so Benjamin Franklin says, that's fine. And he gave a little money to every church that came into existence in Philadelphia because each one taught at least this. And he didn't care about what else they taught you see. So he was able to favor all churches, you know, because of this essential thing which was the religion of reason. Now I cannot answer all the questions of the contradictions except that I would say, first of all, that I think these people were not aware of how much this religion of reason is based upon the biblical tradition. In other words, it's not the kind of religion of reason that would have grown up in India in Hindu soil and so on. They weren't quite aware of that. But as far as the contradictions are concerned with slavery, we do know of course that Jefferson hoped he had faith in the future. He realized that slavery was wrong and he had faith in the future that someday Americans would be able to read the land of this slavery but he felt himself powerless to do so. And we find him doing other things like not freeing his own enslave son. And he's well, you see because to do so would mean he could no longer live in Virginia and that would be too bad. Wouldn't it? There are these contradictions, certainly and there are more than this. Of course, Abigail Adams brought up to her husband, John about the contradiction of liberty and justice for all acts and all people being created equal as long as they were male, you know. And the females were not equal. and Abigail says, \"look John, if you don't write this into the constitution, that women too are equal with respect to fundamental rights someday you're gonna have a real revolution on your hands,\" you know, and John thought it was kind of a joke. Well, from William Stringfellow's point of view, this is a sin. This is why you have the contradiction. Even the most enlightened person is not freed from that kind of self-centered view of the universe. You see, in other words, they affirm a universalistic position but when the chips are down again and again, they will have a very narrow point of view. And I think that the good thing is that at least they affirmed the universalistic position on paper. So guy in the Declaration of Independence and to some degree in the constitution so that eventually we're able to affirm today without feeling that we're in contradiction with our ancestors that all people, black American and Indian female are truly equal with respect to fundamental rights. Is this okay? That's the best I can do. You know, the human personality is a strange and wonderful thing. And people live with contradictions always, yes.\r\n\r\n- You know the religion was really born when the time when. This was a fairly homogeneous society culture with most blaring being used to do slavery. And also at the time when institutions were not course in their roles were perhaps not as originally . I'm just kind of wondering if we can really rely on any hope for a religion in any kind of context.\r\n\r\n- Yeah, one of the things that is, Yes of great. One of the things interesting to me is how the Roman Catholics were able to affirm this religion of the Republic at the time the American Revolution. And this bothered this man I was talking about this afternoon, he felt the Presbyterians and the Catholics were ganging up on him, you know, in this Revolution in Maryland, but they really were. And I find this as often comes as a surprise to the contemporary Roman Catholic to find this great Maryland tradition which associates the two so well. So they were able to bridge this. And certainly, I don't think the Jew has any trouble with it because it comes right out of the Hebrew Bible the religion of Republic. Back Roland Baden, you know the Quaker Historian in his book Christendom, he says that, the religion of America is of course Judaism, because this is the basis upon which all the different groups are able to come together, the Hebrew Bible. Yeah, now I know what you're talking about. You're talking about today and it's a tougher situation and the state is more demonic because it's bigger and has technical power at his hand, in his hands and all the rest. And I do think it is true that the individual cannot expect to get very far quite individual in opposing this. And so he must somehow get himself into groups which somehow are able to get some kind of power to move against other groups with power and keeping some kind of balance. And of course I heartily recommend still at this day Reinhold neighbor's immoral society has a kind of practical way to approach the present situation. But I am not willing to go all the way with Stringfellow and seeing the state is simply demonic. I mean so much has changed for the better too in terms of human rights in the last 20 years, wouldn't you say this? I think you're an old ACLU Proponent. And there have been some things. And the same state, which is so often demonic has also been helpful in getting rights for the oppressed. And there is some hope.\r\n\r\n- Correct some about the view the same as the same question that . Your resolution of the tension seems to be dependent upon finding some signs of proper revolution within the society. I'm thinking back to that work you had in among the In that lost people you talked about there still are lost.\r\n\r\n- There is such a change. There is such a change in the last 30 years. It's over 30 years now that I am so heartened when I lived there on the Dakota Indian Reservation, where we lived, it just broke me up, to find these sons and daughters of the Knight of the Plains, you know, meeting you in town and hanging their head and talking out of the side of the mouth because white people had forced them into that kind of pattern. And I would get out into their own community, you know and they would put their shoulders black. And I saw blacks doing the same thing when I was a member of the NAACP and Little Dixie down in Missouri. Let's say a man, you know he'd be yes boss, yes boss, sweeping out the banks and he would share the NAACP meetings the shoulders squared Zion future and working for a better day for his grandchildren, you know and it broke me up. The stereotype that the Dakota Indian and the a American black were forced into by their white overlords. But today those same people aren't filling those stereotypes. And it gets the white softly nervous, you know with that Cody to come said, you know, it strums a guitar and sings a freedom song, you know and his shoulders square. There's a been a big change. And I think people are divided into two parts. There are the apocalyptic I've gotta go along with most modern here, there are the apocalyptic types. And for them, the bad news is the good news, you know because that means that they ends that much closer when everything goes to pieces and their worst fears are fulfilled. And then there are the other types where there is some good news. You may have to look hard for it, but it's there. Oh, don't, don't put me in that class. Don't put me in that class. But there is some good news and it doesn't always get on the front page. But when you're talking about Dakota Indians, hey, there's good news. There's been something happening in the last generation, that's great. That's great. I'm just, sorry. I don't have one here to tell you that. So you can see the difference. This is an awful white audience here. I mean, we don't have the expression from these other groups\r\n\r\n- Lately I have had\r\n\r\n- Well, I think first of all, that you can vote for those spokesman, for the people who are willing to admit that we were wrong in Vietnam. And you have an opportunity to do that right here in Heims, Tuesday morning. There is a difference between the people who are running for a office and some are willing to admit this and some are not. We were wrong in Vietnam. If you want their names, I can give them to you.\r\n\r\n- Now, I mean, will the religion of Republic help us to do that as much as the particular .\r\n\r\n- I would insist that in the religion of the Republic you have the prophetic word spoken. And I referred, it's harder to find John Quincy Adams Abraham Lincoln, and even Jefferson on this slavery. He did write an essay on Negro Slavery as he called it, this was the title. And he said in it, \"the thought that God is just and that His justice will not sleep forever makes me tremble.\" And that comes out of this Enlightenment Religion of Republic. And that speaks the word that you're asking for. And we need people who are willing to speak that today. I'm just sorry that Jimmy Carter filled he had to call up Mrs. Johnson and say, he was sorry. He was right the first time in Playboy even. Yes, indeed. And of course this is one of the problems. There's no one in a greater bondage to a sin. And no person who assumes that he is always right. And we have somehow got into that. But I would insist even here that we have had spokesman within the religion of Republic like Abraham Lincoln, you know who was able to carry through on a terribly bitter war without this sense that somehow we are the right side, they're the wrong side, you know. And he had this sense of humility. And we have a model here, which I think is useful today still. It's still useful. And sure, it's a terrible thing when we get the thinking that we're the world's savior you know, or something like that. Let me go back again to the people of Israel. When they saw that they had this opportunity, you know to relate the message of freedom to whole world. It was without quenching the smoking flax, without breaking the bruise at cat tail. I can't think of anything weaker than a cat tail has a bruise on it. In other words, it isn't by force of arms but it's by the spoken word and the living witness of the deed you see and this is something we need to learn. And that we are far more effective in influencing Vietnamese or anybody else by practicing what we preach on the religion of the Republic. Holcim men used to keep Abraham Lincoln's picture over his desk, you know. That was his inspiration. We supported Holcim men when it was the Japanese he was fighting against, you know, and then we betrayed him. And then we said, hey he's gone over to the lousy communists. You know, we got to fight him now. We just did the same thing in Angola. The present president of Angola, Agostinho Neto is the son of a Methodist Preacher. He was trained and raised in American religion there. This is why he had the yearning for freedom. Five years ago, the Methodist Bishop of Angola had him over in this country trying to get him some kind of hearing in the State Department. This all came out in the hearings before Senator Dick Clark's Committee on African Affairs. Trying to get him some hearing in Washington nobody would open the door for him, nobody wanted to listen to him. We were then supplying the Portuguese with arms to keep the people down. Well, where was he to turn for help to rid his country of their Portuguese colonial overlords? And he turned to Russia and he turned a Fidel Castro. You'll see and then who's a terrible communist, you know. pardon me? Depends on your point of view. He doesn't think so. He doesn't think so. And I just I've listened to him. ABC recently did quite a study here, television. Yeah, I will agree if indeed he allows Russia to dominate his thinking. Sure.\r\n\r\n- There are, I'm not going to say it\r\n\r\n- That's right. But the point is I would make, we really muffed it there. Okay, and let's admit it and not try to defend what we did. And if he does get into subjection to Russia who is to blame? Part of the blame is ours. And we're the ones that we have to worry about in this matter of guilt. But our involvement in Vietnam goes back before 1945. This is the point it was in those days that Holcim men had Abraham Lincoln as his model. We muffed it because at the end of the Second World War, we with our planes and our troops forced the French back upon the Vietnamese and produced this kind of condition that you're talking about. And we share the guilt for that atrocity that you're talking about. And this is what we have to recognize. I'll take the sixties too, but you have to take the whole view. You can't just history has some depth to it. It isn't something chairman of the History Department.\r\n\r\n- Would it be a matter ten weeks rather than\r\n\r\n- Well, I wish Tom Harkin were here because he has a little personal experience there which she can share with you about the sixties. And I was not there and I'll have to admit that but we were lied to a great deal. We were lied to by Eisenhower and Delis and by Johnson and by Kennedy and by Nixon and by McNamara and so on and so forth. And all I can say is read Fire in the Lake and the Best and the Brightest, and then come back and we'll talk about this again, providing you've read those two books.\r\n\r\n- I might point out one thing same lines to show how much our expert Daniel Ellsberg was suppose the expert on That's really getting I think we can need to share.\r\n\r\n- What was question?\r\n\r\n- Why was this going to raise the sort of old discomforting tension that seems to exist in the concept of freedom between the need to be an advocate on behalf of that, for which one stands for and plus the freedom to allow that you're responsible or allow for the kind of diversity so that I must protect the rights of those who are quote wrong? And when one is coming out of a biblical faith sometimes it's difficult to live in that kind of tension because it's very easy to slip into that side of it. The advocacy of that particular.\r\n\r\n- Well, just remember the person who got condemned for associating with prostitutes and other rejected people, you know who were clearly wrong too but yet this did not cause him to break off this concern for their rights as human beings. And again, I know we have a person who's lived long with the ACLU. And very often the people you have to defend, I'm sure are people that it's kind of uncomfortable to be around. But unless those rights are defended, we lose our rights too. This is one thing I'm convinced staff. And we've got to be concerned with the human rights of all, including people who do things that are wrong. And except at that point where clearly this wrong they're doing is doing harm, you know physical and mental harm to other human beings. And sure, we have to have laws. We have to have laws and all of us need them not just one class of society. They didn't have speed limit laws and red lights and so on. We'd been in trouble. And we need those because of me and you and not just some kind of a peculiar kind of lawless individual.\r\n\r\n- Thank you.\r\n\r\n- Okay. Well, thank you very much for your attention.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iastate.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1150/collection_resources/45590/file/118604#t=0.0,4586.712"}]}]}]}